zealot-class

[fading vale]

and I don't think I'd run HP curio on marty, toughness better

[ripe quest]

Also Crab talking about making enemies actually have roles and there being logical small patrol setups makes me happy. Been wanting stuff like that for a while and now that it's in the playtest circle it has a chance

[coarse birch]

wym

like what does that entail exactly

[ripe quest]

One of the examples brought up was having a little squad of like Scab Shooters or Stalkers and a Sergeant with slightly better gear leading them. He'd have like a grenade or something as a special mechanic and just better stats in general.

[royal vortex]

(don't get your hopes up too much)

[ripe quest]

mhm

[royal vortex]

(everything goes through at least 1 layer of Fatshark Employee Interpretation)

[coarse birch]

ah yeah

that would be cool

[royal vortex]

which may or may not be the reason the ironhelm had the h3 after the push attack

[ripe quest]

I think that was just a mistake

Some weapon guy heard "Hey make the H3 be the push follow attack" and they messed it up.

It got fixed too

[royal vortex]

they just like doin weird stuff

i hope in general they just make patrols like

an actual encounter

because the game feels too much like the enemies aren't actual people and don't have any cohesion and you're fighting like actual traitor guardsmen

[reef pewter]

yeah patrols feel like horde spawns most of the time

[coarse birch]

i hate to sound like an ass but i 100% believe there are some people at FS that literally dont understand the game and still have a say in what happens

[ripe quest]

Another thing brought up in the convo was having Stalkers be ambush-like and having Shooters be stationed up in rooms instead of them just standing around

[coarse birch]

like stuff like H3 after push attack was like

[royal vortex]

crab put it best when he said all current enemy designs are Pass One

[coarse birch]

it took a single use of the weapon to realise that was ass

[royal vortex]

stalkers/shooters need more differentiation

[ripe quest]

yeah

[royal vortex]

cuz for the longest time you only knew that stalkers existed because they didn't get highlighted by counterfire

[reef pewter]

idk about that far, tbh this game is pretty well designed and gameplay mechanics are well thought oit for the most part. of course it certainly isnt perfect, but darktide is pretty good

[coarse birch]

its a good game theres just a lot of things i dont quite get about it

[royal vortex]

there's a lot of stuff darktide gets right but there's also a lot of stuff it gets wrong

[coarse birch]

ranged knockback is one of those things that comes up often thats like ?????

[royal vortex]

fundamentally they got more wrong than they did right until p13 considering playercount

[coarse birch]

at least to the extent it exists

[reef pewter]

gunners just need to not slow and stun you, and dodging them by yhe methods specifically designed to dodge them need to actually work consistently

[coarse birch]

even pre patch 13 gameplay was the ONLY thing that kept people playing

the few people that played

i was recognizing even randos back then

[median crow]

"get me get me, there's nothing on me"

meanwhile:

[ripe quest]

I mean, that's not a crazy thing to assume. Some people are just there to make dough. With the Ironhelm H3 thing I'm willing to bet it was just a Fatshark brand misread. They've historically been really bad at double checking what they're changing. Look at Rampage and Overpressure, both examples of just little mistakes that are literally a word or a line of code.

[coarse birch]

i would believe that

[royal vortex]

it's an attempt at enforcing a certain way of playing that doesn't really work

[coarse birch]

since stuff like assail got nerfed and was the same

[royal vortex]

so like the idea behind gunfire right

[coarse birch]

or void buff

[north sedge]

Vicious Slice is my favorite thing that happened

[royal vortex]

is that you get shot

and it hurts

it is not that the gunners have comically sized fucking fans

that push you away

reapers especially are just so annoying about this

[coarse birch]

i wouldnt even mind some pushback to punish me mistiming a slide

i just dont wanna go 14 feet back and get stunlocked by w/e is behind me

[reef pewter]

yeah the idea is to put you in cover... but not only is that not fun, it's also a fucking horde shooter

[coarse birch]

and with reapers its constant too

[blazing elm]

I mean

You can just suppress the reaper

[coarse birch]

cover also doesnt work

[royal vortex]

i don't particularly mind the area-denial part of it because you can have the entire decision making process of "do i sit back and shoot or do i try to run up to these guys and kill them"

[reef pewter]

lmao

no

[coarse birch]

when this game makes you play like its a cover shooter it falls apart

[reef pewter]

suppression is not that reliable

[coarse birch]

half the time

[reef pewter]

or fast

[royal vortex]

there's just not enough like decision making because on zealot u take twbs and wm1 them or u play ogryn and wm1 them

[coarse birch]

i cant take cover and suppression exists

[reef pewter]

you have that without the cc

the cc just makes it so when you get shot a single time you literally die

[rigid trellis]

took me making an ogryn to realise that flamers do this bs too, I'll slide around or to them and end up going backwards

[coarse birch]

flamers kick and the start of the flame yeah

[royal vortex]

the way the game works right now is that most ranged enemies are deadly because they remove your movement as a mechanic if you fuck up

they don't actually like hurt you

[reef pewter]

they definitely also hurt you

[coarse birch]

you need a ton of them shooting you at once

for it to hurt

like 0 toughness

[reef pewter]

but the cc is what makes them 10x scarier than anything

[royal vortex]

you have to get stunlocked in a corner and let them unload on you for them to deal damage

[coarse birch]

which is less likely now that flames dont just strip it

[royal vortex]

they fundamentally don't hurt enough

[reef pewter]

you guys are smoking if you dont think gunners hurt

[royal vortex]

like on TWBS zealot i do not care that gunners exist in the slightest which doesn't feel like something that should be happening

[rigid trellis]

well they also do this

[coarse birch]

^

[royal vortex]

talents probs shouldnt let u just ignore an enemy

[reef pewter]

a single gunner will halve your health bar in a second from full toughness

elite gunner*

[coarse birch]

you could make the argument TWBS is just a shitty answer to an annoying mechanic

and both the mechanic and TWBS should be changed

[reef pewter]

shooters hurt but like, mob enemy hurt, so that's expected

[coarse birch]

this would require you to be shot for a full second tbf

[reef pewter]

twbs works on gunner cc?

[royal vortex]

i will regularly stand still in front of a gunner to line up a throwing knife shot and my healthbar isn't plummeting

[coarse birch]

thats nto super common

[coarse birch]

yes

just not mentioned

[reef pewter]

not unlikely because you get shot once and you cant do anything after that

[royal vortex]

and in a real game in most instances u are able to mitigate the vast majority of ranged damage with slides/dodges or just outright regen it faster than it can hurt you

[coarse birch]

your only stuck if you are sprinting or out of toughness to my understanding

[reef pewter]

the cc is so aggressive that being shot once is basically just death if they dont miss or reload

[coarse birch]

just getting shot once normally is fine otherwise context depending

[sharp zodiac]

I played so much darktide I kept trying to dodge in Titanfall 2 completely forgetting there is no dodge

[coarse birch]

if i played other FPS games i would def try to slide into people

[reef pewter]

so shot while sprinting increases their cc?

[coarse birch]

sprinting is what causes that like full stagger

where your just stuck

[reef pewter]

that's so stupid

[coarse birch]

if i get caught out of a sprint i just start dodging sliding out

[reef pewter]

especially since sprinting is supposed to be the gunner counter (not that it works for shit)

just remove gunner cc entirely. I dont care if they do triple damage, just remive the cc and gunners are fine

shotgunners can keep the cc, they're actually reliably dodgeable

[coarse birch]

youd probably need a gunner rework to change the CC

[reef pewter]

tbh I dont think so

gunners are still massive area denial with no cc and they already hurt like a mf

[coarse birch]

they arent area denial if they no longer CC me imo

[reef pewter]

removing the cc would just make them fair

[coarse birch]

you have a lot of options to deal with them

and one of them makes them stop shooting

[reef pewter]

not nearly as many as with everything else

[coarse birch]

like sure the damage would hurt but im also far less likely to get shot by them

because i can much more safely slide

[reef pewter]

so increase their damage or accuracy then

at least you dont get shot once and nearly die

an elite gunner is basically a ranged, unreliable to dodge or avoid mauler overhead

[fleet zealot]

LOL WHAT

okay what am I reading

[reef pewter]

straights fucks your healthbar

[coarse birch]

i find dodging and sliding around them pretty reliable

[spare dome]

ive been reading for a while

its entertaining

[reef pewter]

if they dont miss, your health gets tanked

[coarse birch]

it only gets tanked if you are stuck there

which is generally caused by bad positioning

[fleet zealot]

they dont miss

they lock on

[reef pewter]

which you usually are

[coarse birch]

and yeah they are hitscan

[reef pewter]

my point exactly

[fleet zealot]

to make them "miss" you have to break the targetting

[coarse birch]

they only miss at super far range

[reef pewter]

exactly my point

[coarse birch]

well actually

[reef pewter]

they dont miss

[coarse birch]

idk if they miss of if they effects of the gunshots are negligible

they dont miss because you can make them miss

[reef pewter]

but if by some miracle you get free of their stun, you survive. if you dont get freed, your health gets tanked in less than a second

[fleet zealot]

smoke, cover hopping makes them lose their lock

[fleet zealot]

not really

just slide

or shoot them back

they panic easily

[coarse birch]

you are only stunned if you keep trying to sprint out

[fleet zealot]

and stagger

[spare dome]

dodge slide, and then sprint away.

[fleet zealot]

if you are being shot at a piece of cover, then slide out to a different piece of cover, the gunner won't follow

[coarse birch]

you can do a dodge slide while being stationary

[reef pewter]

cant shoot back while stunned, camera gets yanked downwards constantly. and if you get stunned, cant dodge or slide either

[fleet zealot]

yes you can

[coarse birch]

you can dodge

that is the answer

[fleet zealot]

i use an agri brauto, which isn't exactly an accurate weapon

[coarse birch]

to being stunned

[reef pewter]

you literally cant dodge wdym

[fleet zealot]

even while being suppressed, it's enough to get a gunner to fuck off

[reef pewter]

every stun disables dodges

[fleet zealot]

wat

[coarse birch]

the stun also isnt like

10 years long

its just the initial stun

[reef pewter]

no but it gets refreshed every time they shoot you

[fleet zealot]

just dodge when you hear the ranged attack warning noise

lol we must be playing different games

cause I never had that issue

[coarse birch]

it does not get refreshed unless you are trying to sprint

[gray ice]

I am TWBS zealot what is this stagger you speak of

[fleet zealot]

like, besides my zealot, I play vet, psyker, and ogryn in auric maelstroms

[reef pewter]

great, until you're being shot at from several directions or get hit between dodges

[coarse birch]

if you are out of toughness im p sure it stuns yout

so sprinting out 0 toughness

but other than that you can get out

[sharp zodiac]

I think it's something that stops you in place

Idk

[reef pewter]

ovryn excluded, so do I

[coarse birch]

if you are getting shot from multiple places then that is likely a positioning thing

[sharp zodiac]

Probably some heretic stuff like pineapple juice

[reef pewter]

and I handle gunners quite well

[gray ice]

seems much like peasant behavior to me

now holup

[reef pewter]

but they literally just turn your game off

[gray ice]

what you mean pineapple juice is heresy

[coarse birch]

wait

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[coarse birch]

whos dissing pineapple juice

[buoyant pecan]

I could totally handle getting blasted by 5 or more guys

[sharp zodiac]

Look hear me out

[fleet zealot]

sprinting is also the counter to ranged it isn't a fake counter

[reef pewter]

a lot of maps and objectives say otherwise

[coarse birch]

thanks for you input queen

lol

[sharp zodiac]

Why have that when stuff like cranberry or apple exist, or orange

[reef pewter]

sprinting doesnt dodge bullets half the time

[gray ice]

is 5 or more guys their new chain cuz 5 guys was already pretty good

[fleet zealot]

my friend can't drink pineapple juice but that is cause he has a weak mouth and anything too acidic will cause blisters and damage

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-smug-gif-22677264

[fleet zealot]

yes it does, you just dont know the mechanic

[coarse birch]

its simply better

[gray ice]

because none of that sounds like pineapple

[buoyant pecan]

Why limit how many guys you can take at once?

[gray ice]

you don't put cranberry juice in a troppical drink

[copper hawk]

[coarse birch]

are you like sprinting straight at them

[fleet zealot]

sprinting at an angle away from the gunners while you have stam is a guaranteed miss

[sharp zodiac]

I didn't know I'd be meeting with the knights of pineapple juice again

[coarse birch]

wym again

[buoyant pecan]

I dont wanna hear it from you,
Never paid for their own alcohol for reasons

[reef pewter]

I do. sprint perpendicular to gunshots. doesnt work half the time. not to mention you'll be shot at from several angles and you cant be perpendicular to all@of them

[sharp zodiac]

First on twitter

[copper hawk]

SHUT UP

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-sip-sideeye-sassy-judging-you-gif-11644007

[copper hawk]

SHUTUPPPPP!!!

[buoyant pecan]

[fleet zealot]

if you run out of stam it stops and you will get clipped

[coarse birch]

it kinda just sounds like you are also getting caught out in the open a lot

[reef pewter]

at max stam it doesnt work hapf the time either

[ripe quest]

I thought you were a good player...

[coarse birch]

exhil unfort 99% of this chat uses TWBS

[sharp zodiac]

Nuh uh

I use

[reef pewter]

no I dont. I handle gunners well actually. I'm so vehemently against them because I learned ro handle them

[fleet zealot]

we literally have video proof of this mechanic

[sharp zodiac]

The strike be fast

[ripe quest]

I am better than 99% of this chat then

[sharp zodiac]

The upgrade to twbs

[buoyant pecan]

It's okay

[coarse birch]

then im a little confused about how you are having this issue. like the things chaxeferret is mentioning is pretty consistent

[sharp zodiac]

WHO PUT MY JEYBOQRD ENGLISH

[fleet zealot]

if you run out of stam and don't have the zealot talent, yes , you will start taking shots but you'll still dodge a few. with the zealot talent, you can do this infinitely as long as the angle is maintained

[sharp zodiac]

Much better

[reef pewter]

doesnt work half the time, and again, you can absolutely be shot from too many angles to be able to use yhis and it's a horde shooter so positioning be damned

[fleet zealot]

lol, lmao

[coarse birch]

you can also slide

away

this deals with multiple angles as well

[reef pewter]

sliding is the only reliable dodge I've seen for gunners so far

[gilded lintel]

What traits should I be looking for on the 2h chainsword thing? I'm about to dump a ton of resources into trying to make a decent one

err blessings*

[reef pewter]

and it's not something you can always use

[coarse birch]

you can dodge pretty much always unless your out

you can do it out of anything

and you can dodge into a slide as well

[gilded lintel]

Also is Mmk XV or mk II evicerator better?

[sharp zodiac]

Rampage and you can pick usually shred, SS or wrath

[fleet zealot]

mk15 you want rampage+ anything not cleave

[sharp zodiac]

Depending on which mk you're using

[reef pewter]

yeah but you arent always allowed to slide, perhaps for positioning reasons

[fleet zealot]

mk2 you want rampage+ savage sweep

[ripe quest]

This can vary a bit with each map but you can hug the left or the right and just arc through a room with anti-shooter movement if you're using a melee weapon for ranged enemies. It will cut down the number of angles you get shot from.

[fleet zealot]

wdym AAAA

[sharp zodiac]

Typically I'd recommend wrath

[fleet zealot]

are you on console?

that is like

[gilded lintel]

Whats the difference between the two? I've literally never used an eviserator. Just hammers and knives

[sharp zodiac]

I meant shref

[fleet zealot]

the only legit excuse I will take cause console sliding is a pain

[ripe quest]

Rev it Up, Perfect Strike, and Bloodletter walk into the room

[coarse birch]

both are good, ones horde clear/generalist the other is single target (mk 15)

[sharp zodiac]

Get them out the room

They're going to destroy the fridge

[reef pewter]

I am console but there are rimes sliding isnt a good choice for fundemental strategy reasons

[coarse birch]

luna is rev it up in the room with us right now

[fleet zealot]

mk15 is basically a fancy executioner sword from vt2

[sharp zodiac]

YES

[fleet zealot]

literally wrong actually

[sharp zodiac]

ITS EATING THE FOOD

[fleet zealot]

especially for zealot

[reef pewter]

like melee angles and positioning and even defense since sliding doesnt defend against melee

[gilded lintel]

sold

[sharp zodiac]

IN MY FRIDGE

[fleet zealot]

sliding is core

[coarse birch]

how else is it supposed to get its energy

[sharp zodiac]

Crack

I did have to think about this tbh

[coarse birch]

you can also push and dodge while sliding

and attack

[reef pewter]

I know

[fleet zealot]

i think we found the issue

console

[reef pewter]

it isnt console

[fleet zealot]

base controller sucks

[reef pewter]

I handle all these things well

[fleet zealot]

your mobility is being shafted

[ornate bone]

I'm not good enough ✊ 😔

[reef pewter]

I play fantastically

[reef pewter]

really isnt tbh

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-13240550249247957481

[fleet zealot]

im not an anti console person

[reef pewter]

I'm complaining vehemently because they're just stupid and bs

[sharp zodiac]

Jarvis destroy their PC

[fleet zealot]

but without remapping and most people not having gyro

[gilded lintel]

First one crafted, how should I modify it?

[fleet zealot]

it is 100% your controller hold you back

[reef pewter]

you can deal with them but that doesnt mean they're fair

[reef pewter]

it isnt

[south folio]

well as a PC player ranged enemies are pretty easy

[ripe quest]

You can tell what movement skill cap a player is operating on based on if they are running a controller with paddles or not.

[coarse birch]

swap rev to w/e you want and weak spot to flak

[sharp zodiac]

W/e is a very good blessing I recommend

can you tell I'm bored yet

[coarse birch]

ok not w/e your pick of momentum/bloodthirsty/shred

[gilded lintel]

And this one?

[coarse birch]

i think im forgetting one

[sharp zodiac]

Savage sweep?

[ripe quest]

That's a Mk II Evis

[coarse birch]

oh

im blind

uh

[sharp zodiac]

Simply see

[coarse birch]

sweep then

[fleet zealot]

rev to savage sweep

[sharp zodiac]

Jesus it is 6am what am I doing with my life

[coarse birch]

talking on discord

[sharp zodiac]

Well yeah but like..

[fleet zealot]

weak spot to.. id say unyielding or carapace, but flak maniac always solid

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah I got nothing

[coarse birch]

caras good for funny bloodthirsty stuff

if it makes you feel better ive been like fully nocturnal recently

[ripe quest]

With this one you'd swap Bloodletter to Rampage and BE to +Flak. If you run a crit build you'll synergize with the crit CDR and hit the Crusher 1 shot on a revved heavy crit.

You could alt swap BL to Shred, I don't recommend it but some like Shred + SS/Wrath on the XV.

[sharp zodiac]

Lil tip is to use chastise AFTER you already attached the rev on any non crit heavy rev

Well actually

Doesn't really make a big difference with the new evisc compared to the old

[steep igloo]

Drip checking random zealots with just a flesh wound completed, stumble upon a man running triple sprint efficiency, a +3 stamina curio, a chainsword and a columnus infantry autogun

This man is on a whole other level

[sharp zodiac]

Grindset

He is the 1%

[coarse birch]

checking random loadouts gives me brain damage

[steep igloo]

Running a badly optimized momentum build to boot

[ripe quest]

Speedrunner loadout with killing things really fast in mind

[unborn whale]

Stripped Down on the Columnus?

[ripe quest]

probs

[coarse birch]

that ones not the worst

[steep igloo]

yes

[coarse birch]

at least good weps

oh yeah

hes speedrunning lol

[steep igloo]

I'm not saying anything is good or bad, just that it looks cursed as fuck

why not run triple stamina if you're speedrunning though?

and go like

knife

[ripe quest]

Chainsword and Columnus IAG with Fury will kill just about anything at like top speed.

[steep igloo]

He wasn't running a crit build though, that's the strange part

[ripe quest]

Fury as in the ult.

[sharp zodiac]

I think my heart just stopped for a nanosecond

[coarse birch]

you mean like a heartbeat

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

I should probably get that checked out if it happens again

[ripe quest]

It depends on what you mean by speedrunning ig. Knife will net you slightly better movement speed but is only for single target damage. Chainsword will wipe crowds of fodder and bruisers. If he's running a speedrun duo knife would be better for the dodges and in pubs Chainsword will be better.

[fleet zealot]

cause you can sprint w/o stamina

and you need to stop sometimes anyways

[steep igloo]

Oh, a lot of things kill with just fury though

a hsword can do wonders

[fleet zealot]

unless you are doing pacifist runs i guess

[sharp zodiac]

Undertale

[ripe quest]

Columnus IAG will wipe small elites off the map.

[steep igloo]

Knife is surprisingly good at waveclear though

[ripe quest]

no

[steep igloo]

light+block attack can handle hoards fairly well

[sharp zodiac]

I like the fact it's just "no"

[coarse birch]

its not awful but i wouldnt use it for speedrunning

[steep igloo]

It's not primarily waveclear but claiming that the knife can't waveclear is dismissive

[ripe quest]

Even in ideal environments where every enemy is stacked on top of eachother the horde clear is the worst in the game. With bleed it just barely competes with some of our other slow crowd damage weapons, at the cost of being worse at single target.

[steep igloo]

Have you actually tried the knife? I've never had horde clear issues with the knife like... ever

[ripe quest]

Oh I mean, it'll clear hordes. It does damage. It's the slowest on the market.

[sharp zodiac]

Ok what the actual fuck is with vet's I keep inspecting not even having keystones

This is the 7th vet

[frozen glen]

vet keystones bad

too many points

also vet bad

[steep igloo]

They do that quite often actually

[sharp zodiac]

It's not even that bad

[coarse birch]

damn they still playing patch 13 vet

[steep igloo]

Nah, no way it's the slowest

[sharp zodiac]

You still have room for the most important node

[frozen glen]

vet tree bad not enough points

[coarse birch]

i think they were joking

[sharp zodiac]

iron will

[coarse birch]

and making fun of vet chat

[sharp zodiac]

I think you mean reddit

[coarse birch]

and reddit

[sharp zodiac]

No no

Mainly Reddit

[ripe quest]

I went through a knife phase for like a month and a half, been using it on and off. I run a Flamer or a Kant Shotgun to cover it because of how annoying it is to clear hordes with it, god pray I have to deal with bruisers.

[sharp zodiac]

Like

98%

[coarse birch]

reddit was pretty upset about it lol

[frozen glen]

breddit

[sharp zodiac]

Welp off to check more people

[ripe quest]

It does competitive single target damage, I like it for that. I've tried bleed knife, normal knife, I've benchmarked it, solo'd with it, pubbed with it. It's bad for hordes.

[steep igloo]

Like I said, I'm surprised to hear anyone say that knife isn't good at literally everything, it's an ace of most trades, jack of few

[coarse birch]

you cant really say its good at horde clear though, it doesnt hold up to the good horde clear options

it can horde clear

[sharp zodiac]

A vet had a keystone

[fleet zealot]

more like the 4 of all trades

[sharp zodiac]

But was using the wrong subnode for shout

[coarse birch]

but saying its good at it puts it in line with the good horde clear weapons which isnt true

[sharp zodiac]

This is literally the monkey's paw what the fuck

[steep igloo]

Knife is straight busted dude, no reason to downplay it

[fleet zealot]

it's a very high skill ceiling, low skill floor weapon that is very easy to be baited into a bad build

[coarse birch]

not counting bleed knife

[north sedge]

It's not

[coarse birch]

because you are making knife worse for horde clear

[fleet zealot]

it is a weapon that takes skill to master and understanding of game mechanics

just to do what the good waepons can do with half the energy

[ripe quest]

Run some tests with it to compare to other weapons. It has single target damage, that's it. It can hit some crazy numbers due to it being an insanely high finesse multiplier weapon and it having Uncanny. Chaxe and Thammer can outpace it for single target but those weapons don't have the same mobility. A well build Caxe will compete for single target damage with it and it has BM, giving it some horde clear and the ability to kill 4 small elites in a swing.

[fleet zealot]

hell

on vet

[steep igloo]

Just dodging + lattack/pattack while managing gigantic mixed hordes is a very doable thing

[fleet zealot]

it's outmatched by shovels

[sharp zodiac]

Screaming eagles

[coarse birch]

we arent arguing its not doable tbf

there are just better options for horde clear

[fleet zealot]

cause shovel can roll uncanny too but do everyhting better and can pop crushers now too

[ripe quest]

What build do you use for it, I'll run some tests.

[fleet zealot]

sure old knife can do lights and push attack and new knife uses heavies

[steep igloo]

Definitely, not what I'm arguing though

[fleet zealot]

it just doesn't compete with a proper horde clear weapon, mk3 single target competes with chain weapons and hammer

[delicate shadow]

you could probably swap disdain for second wind considering you'll get next to no mileage out of the damage stacks and toughness on dodge is busted af

[sharp zodiac]

Why is a vet using a columnus WITH MF

[ripe quest]

What blessings do you use for your knife?

[coarse birch]

luna for your own health i reccomend you stop doing this

[sharp zodiac]

I can't

Curiousity

[frozen glen]

can u guys be quiet im tryna play monster hunter

[coarse birch]

mh pog

which one

[sharp zodiac]

Not until you get a mantle

[frozen glen]

world

[coarse birch]

WORLD POG

[steep igloo]

Not a bad idea actually, cheers

[coarse birch]

based

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-serious-excuse-me-reading-gif-13121148

reads name

[frozen glen]

queen

its been there for a month now

[coarse birch]

i was gonna say

its been a minute

[buoyant pecan]

I dont come in here often

[steep igloo]

I use a variation of bleed proc+armor shred or precog+armor shred

I own multiple knives

[buoyant pecan]

And when I do you aren't here

[frozen glen]

you need to come more often

[buoyant pecan]

No

I'll get banned

[fleet zealot]

should use executor it's been fixed, bleed does nothing for horde clear but precog is great still at least

[steep igloo]

The perks are crit + maniac or flak + maniac, depends on the knife

Do people do riposte+precog?

[frozen glen]

nah

[ripe quest]

Uncanny + Precog/Riposte. Executor as an alt to Precog if you don't have it.

[gray ice]

I can see why executor would be considered, but it has the wrath problem except even worse because it requires weakspot hits. Off that alone, I'd probably just run precog

[delicate shadow]

lacerate so you never have to weakspot hit

and you don't have to worry about dps output because you won't have any

it's brilliant

[south folio]

lacerate + executor

[fleet zealot]

never crit perk cause it isn't efficient

[gray ice]

900iq plays by pseudocereal

[delicate shadow]

I almost wanna roll this just so I can post screenshots in here to do psychic damage whenever I want

[fleet zealot]

25% damage perks to armor and 10% to elites/specials/horde always calculates better than crit damage and weakspot damage, and crit chance isn't much better when it comes to adding to your dps

[steep igloo]

It's the best thing I had to keep on my knives, it was that or t2 infested damage

Or some other worthless bullshit

Ideally it's flak+maniac, hadron says fuck you

So I get the ctit

Crit*

[gray ice]

be the dough of the mod team

[fleet zealot]

carapace/unyielding is lowkey great on mk3

and of course if youa re coping bleed, unyielding is good just cause those are the only targets that take heavy bleed damage and live a long time

[misty mason]

Crab is interesting to listen to

Telo is kinda obnoxious

[ripe quest]

Knife had your build, used Mercy Killer to simulate Duellist being up. Chainsword was Keystoneless and just used Disdain and Sustained Assault as talents.

Did one with Scab Bruisers. Knife used Uncanny + Flesh Tearer and used a mod to have Mercy Killer again for the same purpose.

[halcyon elbow]

always wanted to try out the heavy sword, is this the moment?

[ripe quest]

Cleave Damage is a bit low but that's a good setup. Swap Perfect Strike to Deathblow.

+Cara on it isn't preferred, Maniac will be better. If you want you can also save the mod slot for future proofing, but check to see if you can hit the Dreg Rager 1 shot first.

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pillsbury-doughboy-pillsbury-shades-sunglasses-cool-gif-22258477

[ripe quest]

Here you go

[steep igloo]

The numbers speak for themselves, yeah. I'd still much rather be surrounded by a giant mixed horde with the knife rather than the csword purely for the added survivability that the knife provides

[steep igloo]

Is that a fish

[ripe quest]

Chainsword has the same number of dodges and just under the dodge distance.

It's a shovel

[delicate shadow]

nice

[steep igloo]

I like my fish headcanon better

[ripe quest]

Here's the vanilla one

Will read better

since it's not a shovel

[gray ice]

as was foretold in the scrolls

[delicate shadow]

idk flesh tearer shovel would be pretty funny

[polar nexus]

I remember reading that bleed helped haymaker on clubs. It's the same for knives?

[north sedge]

Needs lacerate 😔

[ripe quest]

Yeah I'm gonna be real that's kinda how I'm feeling watching it. He's well versed with the game but I dislike the ideas he brought up and he interrupts Crab a bunch. Guess you gotta deal with the shell to get to the good stuff.

[ripe quest]

no

absolutely not

Clubs have decent cleave and Thrust to boost it if needed

Bleed is also a talent

Also I don't believe there's a bleed interaction with Haymaker

[polar nexus]

@royal vortex ?

Like it helped maintain haymaker stacks

[fiery ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-massage-head-cute-head-massager-gif-16396595

[polar nexus]

#zealot-class message

[ripe quest]

Maybe it used to, currently doesn't.

[ripe quest]

Oh I assume he's saying that bleed is damage output in addition to what Haymaker does.

[ornate bone]

hey there #zealot-class just wondering if you all think that yakub would have enjoyed darktide

[polar nexus]

Nono #zealot-class message

Well it was 2 patches ago

[ripe quest]

That was from 10/19/2023

probs was a bug at the time

[ripe quest]

ya kub deez nuts

[polar nexus]

what is a yakub?

[long oasis]

hadron knows whats upppp

[frozen glen]

bleed haymaker was a bug in ye olde darktide

[north sedge]

😬

[frozen glen]

where bleed procced it

[ripe quest]

Rip

[ripe quest]

Yeah I figured, remembered a couple debuffs would do that

[long oasis]

I definitely didn't just spend 2 million only to get 1 370+

not me

[polar nexus]

that was the first bug, then it helped maintain stacks

[polar nexus]

that's sad

on a ironhelm...

[buoyant pecan]

Mofos told me the raid was hard so I picked Ogyrn and just did it.

[polar nexus]

i wish yters could drop the saltiness

[long oasis]

thats what I get for wanting to try new things....

[misty mason]

yeh

[buoyant pecan]

The problem is most of the community is genuinely salty

Still

They're appealing to their core audience and echo chambers

[ripe quest]

The higher the salt the higher the bleed knife compatibility.

[polar nexus]

there's a lot of immaturity as well

take a guy like cashcrop

the dude is an adult

now, real arrogant robot...

[buoyant pecan]

I remember people and Darcy unironically attributing player numbers to the Psword nerf

I recall Game Master Nai even dropping a whole YT vod to try and justify it xD

[polar nexus]

on my vet... ok

[polar nexus]

he is still around?

[buoyant pecan]

Dunno

He may have left after he called Praetorian a Nazi because he didn't agree with Darcy's take on the Autopistol and pinning fire blessing overall

[rocky marsh]

ok i see why martyr is stronk now
i survived DH

but imo shoutspam still feels better to play

[polar nexus]

lmao some people should really take a xanax sometime

this how you get fucking gamergaters

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/katt-williams-club-shay-shay-sips-shannon-sharpe-interview-gif-8482518578120346239

[polar nexus]

Holy shit

i did not know

[sharp zodiac]

Oh that reminds me

[buoyant pecan]

Now make it transparent

[sharp zodiac]

Annd I already closed the game

[buoyant pecan]

L

[sharp zodiac]

I hate doing well in darktide sometimes

Because then I get a fucking horrible headache

[native cargo]

Damn

Suffering from success

[sharp zodiac]

I'm like drake

Suffering from success

[native cargo]

You're like drake

[sharp zodiac]

From drake and Josh

[buoyant pecan]

You're like Drake

[native cargo]

Josh and drake

[buoyant pecan]

Didn't he get like

[fiery ingot]

drosh and jake

[buoyant pecan]

Charges

[sharp zodiac]

What kindb

[buoyant pecan]

[sharp zodiac]

Right I was changing my binds

[native cargo]

Drake is a USB charger yeah

[sharp zodiac]

Why did hall of sacrilegious remains start playing

I didn't even turn it on

Eh goes hard so it'll stay on

[sharp zodiac]

And you're a blue ray DVD

[buoyant pecan]

A PDFile

Technically both Drakes are

https://tenor.com/view/katt-williams-club-shay-shay-sips-shannon-sharpe-interview-gif-8482518578120346239

[sharp zodiac]

Oh no I am not pdfile

I am many things but not that

[native cargo]

[native cargo]

Another one falls

[buoyant pecan]

Drake has been caught just no one cares

He released some good songs during that time so literally no one cared that he was grooming a child xD

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah changing the dodge to rb helps a lot

Especially with sliding

Or left I mean

[sharp zodiac]

It's like you have a gif for everything

[dense field]

https://tenor.com/view/empty-brain-loading-gif-20731521

You don't?

[sinful widget]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-2813086212540319582

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ps2-rsod-game-error-red-gif-18799570

[sharp zodiac]

U'eugh I love changing the dodge to triggers

But then it feels weird using the bumpers to aim

N shoot

[delicate shadow]

just put dodge on shift

[sharp zodiac]

Right I forgot about the shift key on the controller

Silly me

[thorn flicker]

or the spacebar yeah, it's between the playstation logo and the cartridge slot

[delicate shadow]

controller in hands, keyboard under toes ezpz

[long oasis]

hee hee hee haw

[fiery ingot]

jesus

[sinful widget]

uhm any tips for using the ironhelm in damnation? i just bought one yesterday and only messed around in psykh

[sharp zodiac]

Damnit but I just remembered this works GREAT for psyker

[thorn flicker]

hit the enemies with it until they die

[sharp zodiac]

But pressing RT to shout for vet is uh

Yeah I don't think I need to say why that's a bad idea

[long oasis]

charge your hammer and THEN hit them with it until they die

[sinful widget]

very cool thanks

[thorn flicker]

yeah crucis is better

[long oasis]

its really fun to cleave a horde with it tho

I can pretend like I have an actual polearm

[thorn flicker]

crucis has the side swipe heavy attacks for doing that?

[sharp zodiac]

Man i wish I could create specific settings for each class individually

But that would be copium if I wanted that

[fiery ingot]

i wish i could enjoy this game

[fiery ingot]

bro thats crazy

man has muslces inside his muscles

[native cargo]

Yes

[fiery ingot]

bro got a 6 pack in his cheeks

[long oasis]

yea but charged heavy swiep

[fiery ingot]

i honestly cant tell if baki was meant to be something legit or some sort of shitposting

[thorn flicker]

if you set up the right blessings on crucis you will have more than enough horde clearing with a non-charged sweep

[bitter anvil]

ah yes, Baki the grappler

[native cargo]

Baki varies from episode to episode. It's about that masculine urge to break through reality and cause some confusing shit

[ornate bone]

The manly desire to get wacky

[native cargo]

Yes

[fiery ingot]

reminds me of the moments i were showering when i was 12 or something and i would imagine myself fighting some punks from school that used to bully me

[thorn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/gurren-lagann-kamiya-brandishing-sword-katana-gif-7350365

[bitter anvil]

toss some soap to him, make him drop it.

[long oasis]

yea I have the right blessings

im just saying its way funnier when there's cool lightning arcs n shit

[thorn flicker]

your weapons look very.. unusual

[long oasis]

mm

[vestal fractal]

Hey so does this mean it does less damage overall or less stagger?

[frozen glen]

less damage

[vestal fractal]

tyvm

Thank you fellow Zealot.

..And nothing else..

[frozen glen]

go away daemon

[long oasis]

I do enjoy fucking around with weapon customization mod

[vestal fractal]

Immediately leaves.

[native cargo]

It's a disguise. They won't expect it to be a thammer

[fiery ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPPlW_sLoXM

[native cargo]

You are a daemon of bulging doe

[fiery ingot]

lmao wtf

[vestal fractal]

This is more of a hammer than that guys Thammer

[thorn flicker]

so true

[bitter anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGQvENJsLRc

[thorn flicker]

i didn't even know the stats could go that low

[fiery ingot]

i lose it all everytime i watch this

[bitter anvil]

ahaha

[bitter anvil]

Thomas and Friend theme

[zealous basin]

MORTAL KOMBAAAAAAAAAAAAT

DOO DOO DOO DOODOODOO DOO DOO DOO DOODOODOO DOO DOO DOO DOODOOODOO DOODOO DOODOO DOODOO DOODOO DOODOODOODOO

DOODOO DOODOO DOODOO DOODO DOODOODOODOO DOODOO DOODOO DOODOO DOODOOO DOODOODOODOO

[bitter anvil]

zealots vs crusher, Round 1; Fight!

[sharp zodiac]

Why is this balwarks chest not green and stinky

Does he only wash there

[sinful widget]

fr*nch

[sharp zodiac]

Bitch

[sinful widget]

xd

[polar nexus]

good lord that think slaps on my vet, i wonder if it works well on zealot

[ebon agate]

Whats the best Zealot shotgun (eviacerator blaze piety build)

Justice

Or

Kantrael?

And why?

[sharp zodiac]

Kantreal

For the sake of the fire pellets being good and a good weapon to make chastise with

[ebon agate]

Immolate Grenade or Faith Knife?

Knife gets me an extra talent point to put in the +10% melee speed

But I rhink immolate grenade is more utility oriented. Plus knives kill my momentum to aim and theres nothing i cant kill with shotgun that i would knife for, save perhaps for a very fast headshot on a single gunner

[thorn flicker]

knife is so useful, when i don't play it i feel lost without the faith it gives me

[sinful widget]

i need some fact checking by real darktide rejects for this wack ass idea
does it make any sense if i pair the ironhelm with a kantrael? my plan is to do open with the shotgun to stun/knock an elite and then charge the hammer for a bonk

[thorn flicker]

as someone who usually has a melee weapon out, knife is good for killing specials

[polar nexus]

kant hammer is like mickey and minnie

[ebon agate]

If you stagger you can just shot again for full no respite

Thus redundant

[thorn flicker]

the charge time will give them time to recover

[sinful widget]

what if i do it in reverse order? bonk and buckshot?

[ebon agate]

Speaking honestly

My knife button is the side mouse button

And i still notice i dodge spam less while using it

Like i get slower with it (psychologically of course)

If you headshot cool, but if i miss, ots like my time was far better soent pulling the shorgun and deleting everything with 2 shots combo

While immo geenade can save a group crearing a killzone or a bottleneck

[thorn flicker]

i guess, i have knife bound to c so it's easy for me to hit in between dodges

i don't think grenade does that much suppression, horde enemies will still walk through it

[ebon agate]

Two questions

Anointed in blood is a passive that works at ANY DISTANCE (but the more the closer to target)

Or a passive that “triggers if I strt running tiwqrds someone with my ranged weapon?

Eviscerator sword Special Revv up are the same than Heavy Attacks Auto-Revv?

As in do I need to Trigger + Heavy or jjst Heavy to do the biggest damage possible?

[polar nexus]

it works close range, max 15 iirc

[ornate bone]

It gives you +0.000000001% ranged damage when you're 1 mile away from the enemy

[polar nexus]

it works on dots too, like fire or bleed

[ripe quest]

8 meters, the close range distance was changed iirc

[polar nexus]

but only if you have you ranged wp equipped

[polar nexus]

T_T

[rocky marsh]

@ripe quest is there any interaction between dodge slide and sprint slide?
iirc sprint slide resets dodge slide fatigue or something

[rocky marsh]

@fading vale :p

[ebon agate]

So i dont need to run before to trigger it righr? I can just pop my shotgun and shoot

And

Mob 1 at 2 meters will get xx% extra damage

Mob 2 at 10 meters will get yy% extra damage

[rocky marsh]

MISTER EXHIL COME BACK

i pinged you only because i saw you are online ;-;

[celest cave]

What makes you think you should run at first?

[ebon agate]

Localization to my language is funny

And the game is somehow blocking you into your OS language

The kind of shit I honestly don’t understand why fatshark is like that

[celest cave]

I bet you can change your language setting in steam properties. If you not xbox player ofc.

[ebon agate]

Will you answer the question or not

[ember yew]

i gave it a shot

no, it feels like trash after agri VIII

super low ammo count (even maxed its still super bad)

shit damage

no penetration (its iag)

[ornate bone]

https://streamable.com/f731u4 you should try turtle sword along with kantrael wshotgun

this sword tears thru everythin

havent tested on damnation yet

[ripe quest]

All I know is that sprint sliding doesn't consume dodges, but it'll reset the dodge refresh timer. Sprint sliding also doesn't work on melee attacks iirc, only ranged ones.

Is there any particular interaction you're curious about?

[ripe quest]

Also if you're low on dodges dodge sliding will be slowed, but sprint sliding won't be.

[rocky marsh]

ahhhh yeah i just wanted to know that
And the sprint sliding one is good info, no wonder i always get hit from the back when i sprint slide
thanks for all the tips

[ripe quest]

Also fun fact: Dodge sliding will consume 2 dodges, but once you hit 0 dodges and start going negative you'll only consume 1 dodge.

[south folio]

duelling sword moment

[ripe quest]

Arco jumpscare

[south folio]

ohio

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/have-at-thee-rat-jump-gif-3333922911057271749

how is the weather over in Psyker chat arco

what secrets have you learned

[south folio]

i make my leave (flashbang) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057854953164656640/1182256312491446302/arco.jpg?ex=65b22d7e&is=659fb87e&hm=a89512dc6a20394d7847f1888d51af542d3967a79f46154598650766cb285f77&

[ornate bone]

w m1 enjoyer

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-gif-meme-toy-story-whats-good-buzz-lightyear-gif-26344526

<@&735928989146939404>

[polar nexus]

you should separate jump and dodges

@delicate shadow

[ornate bone]

eeeh is fine

[polar nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078922307394879508.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[frozen glen]

jesus

[tight scroll]

oh dear lord its started

[frozen glen]

nice day to not have eyes

[ornate bone]

just have gifs disabled unless u hover on them

[ripe quest]

I think it can be fun to just have unfiltered internet.

[lusty orbit]

never have eyes in the first place. ez fix

[polar nexus]

not really

[ornate bone]

dunno wat id replace with

[polar nexus]

i still have jump on space, and dodge on a mouse button

easier to access and i won't be fucked jumping while i wanted to dodge something

[viral halo]

The Emperor Provides

[ornate bone]

[sterile stone]

The hell did I miss this time

[tight scroll]

you don't wanna know

[ebon agate]

Is it a good idea to keybind the weapon special key to R (reload), using shotguns?

The special ammunition button works like a reload right?

[sterile stone]

Spoilsport

[daring glen]

P o o. Lots and lots of p o o o o o

[south folio]

it only loads a single special shot

[sterile stone]

[ripe quest]

The special key loads the alt round.

[sterile stone]

This is a joke right

[ripe quest]

If you did that you wouldn't have the primary fire

[ripe quest]

No

🙂

[sterile stone]

You know

[south folio]

so it's not quite reloading since you won't be able to reload from 0 to full

[sterile stone]

Some people dont' deserve to interact with humanity...

Not when they act like that

[ebon agate]

But I can pre-load it indefinitely?

Iirc it persists thorugh weapon swaps, the special rounds

[ripe quest]

whoa, kinkshaming

[south folio]

ye

[sterile stone]

Someone has to do it

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[daring glen]

Gods work

[south folio]

if you're just planning to rebind for shotties, then that seems good nuff if you're spamming the special shot a bunch

[ebon agate]

Like, if I press the key 10 times i pre load 10 rounds?

[south folio]

nah

[ripe quest]

only 1 special round per

[south folio]

can only load 1 special shot at most

[ripe quest]

sadly

[ebon agate]

So its always One-Two One-Two

Huh

Is it really that good for zealot?

Why not just dump the magazine

I guess they dont oenwtrate ogryn shields

[south folio]

if it's the kant shotty, then the special shot is basically just the flamer

which is pretty neat

[ripe quest]

On the Kant yeah, different usecase so it'll pop up when it's needed. On the Lawby and Agri it's arguably blessing and build related but less so with the Lawby.

[ebon agate]

People said kant outshines lawbringer for zealot

So im trying to learn how to play that correctly

My zeal is a hard ass chica with the eviscerator build

But pulls shotgun off for non horded ragers, ogryns and Bosses difficult to melee

Aim and shoots banh 15 pellets per shot

[native cargo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398590278404931588/1096242660454449162/edf98c46b0e07b025f79ce656e186dd4681385c28fb74f654387db1d2469ecb9_1.gif.gif

[ornate bone]

i prefer using q for wep special

[ripe quest]

Lawby is more of a finesse weapon and doesn't have the same utility yeah. Kant will be more consistent for most builds.

[ebon agate]

So kant is should try to incendiary fire after using Chastise Charge?

So to not waste the bullet

[last solstice]

Can anyone teach me how to use Thunderhammer? I find it cool in Appearance but hard to use

[sterile stone]

Activate

Hold heavy

Hit target with heavy

You are now thunder hammer certified

[ornate bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048028342772846593/1166070596937978126/bonk.mp4?ex=65b7e4de&is=65a56fde&hm=876216a93201c5742af7205c9dbbfe8ee5ef25f3792340bb36a2c1d4a9a99fec&

special - press f heavy attack

[last solstice]

Charge or Stealth?

[ornate bone]

charge ofc

who da heck uses stealth

can show ma build in a sec

u basically 1-2 shot monstrosities

even on damnation with it

[last solstice]

Is TH nutzlich gegen Hordes? Or using TH means unable to sweep Hordes?

[ornate bone]

it does aight job on hordes but not the best for that

[last solstice]

Is it really OK? I mean it bounces back heavily on even a Poxwalker

[last solstice]

Charge to hit a Crusher but bounces back on a Poxwalker

That happens

[ornate bone]

just try it

i do damnation etc no prob

[last solstice]

How to clear up Hordes?

Uncharged heavy spamming?

[ornate bone]

pretty much

that and dodging

u could use a flamer as secondary but yee then ul be slow asf i guess

hordes aint really a problem though + u got that nade in build i sent

[last solstice]

TH heavy attacks are very slow so if Hordes are too dense it won't work well

[ornate bone]

wich is good

[last solstice]

Occasionally got hit and that's annoying

And if I use Thunderhammer + Flammenwerfer how do I deal with ranged Shooters?

[ornate bone]

basically hope u dont have useless teammates

i only rlly go kantrael shotgun tbh

[ripe quest]

They have really high cleave, Slaught or Headtaker will boost that and its damage. Thammer has very safe horde clear.

[ornate bone]

trying to get a good bolter or revolver atm

[ripe quest]

Especially after the buffs to Thammer it's got some nice horde management.

[ornate bone]

yee dont really have a problem with hordes

wtf are those blessings

[last solstice]

All 4 are useless

[ornate bone]

thought i finally would get to try it

then i see perks and blessings

[last solstice]

This Revolver is wasted

[ornate bone]

wat about this one

[celest cave]

Waste.

[last solstice]

I don't use Devilclaw, I don't know

[ornate bone]

same

weps i be usin

[last solstice]

What's the Vorteil of Devilclaw?

I don't see any

[ornate bone]

rlly like usin turtolsky

shotgun for big bois

[last solstice]

I prefer Revolver/Bolter/Flammenwerfer

Shotgun…maybe I don't know how to use it

[ripe quest]

If you get Deathblow on that it'd be pretty good, shame about the +Specialist perk.

[ornate bone]

yep

[last solstice]

This and Axes are said to be strong but I don't know how to use them well, care to teach me a little?

I'm currently using Evis and Crusher and Knives

[celest cave]

Put bromentum on it and use left click

Most braindead thing.

[ornate bone]

^

[last solstice]

By the way, is Evis the most universally nutzlich melee Equipment?

And what about Crusher?

[ornate bone]

https://streamable.com/f731u4

its very simple to use

[rocky marsh]

there is a chance

[celest cave]

Imagine being broke on plasteel.

[last solstice]

Is Rashad the best Axe?

[celest cave]

Pretty much.

[frozen ibex]

Slightly more headshot damage, faster heavies. Worse push attack and special.

Also harder to build as you need 4 stats vs 3.

[last solstice]

Is Chainaxe a nutzlich or meme Equipment? The old or the new one is better?

[celest cave]

What is nutzlich?

[ornate bone]

read one of chainaxes is op or smthin yday

dnno wich

[last solstice]

Practically useful

[celest cave]

Yes, it's good weapon.

Basically taxes worst rn. Knifes too i guess.

[frozen ibex]

Knife worst?

[last solstice]

Knife isn't worst…

[celest cave]

Comparing to other toolkit it's pretty mediocre weapon.

[last solstice]

Devilclaws worst

I just can't see how Devilclaws are nutzlich

[ornate bone]

I can't say it for sure because I blinked, but

I think I just spectated a psyker leave a medpack to get a book with 2 people alive

[last solstice]

I hope it's Scripture not Grim

Or he's outright suicidal

[cerulean pike]

my fucking knees and hands are freezing holy shit

motorcycle in the winter is hell

[last solstice]

It depends on how North you live. If you live in Siberia or Alaska that's true, if you live in Greece or Turkey for example, that's untrue

[frozen ibex]

That's me

[sterile stone]

Get fucked nerd

[cerulean pike]

i did

it's your turn

bitch boy

[sterile stone]

well aren't you a witty little turd

I will remember this for future engagements

[last solstice]

?

[sharp zodiac]

Rivalyry

[delicate shadow]

they're courting

[sharp zodiac]

Damnit I hate taking medicine but ik it's better than the alternative

Eugh

Eeeu

[delicate shadow]

gotta do what ya gotta do

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/zhongli-death-genshin-genshinimpact-gif-20411638

The alternative

[sharp zodiac]

Why can't they make good tasting médecin

[cerulean pike]

they can

[sharp zodiac]

Well they should

[buoyant pecan]

It's a scheme

[cerulean pike]

but incan would kill me

[buoyant pecan]

If the medicine tastes good the homeless will steal it

[sharp zodiac]

When you put it like that everything is out to get the homeless

Besides taxes

[ripe quest]

They're good. Mk IV is better with crowds and has light spam for smaller elites. Mk XII has bigger single target hits and can really easily raw 1 shot Crushers.

[delicate shadow]

even some capsules manage to taste bad instead of being just tasteless, dunno how the hell pharma companies manage to do it but they do

[sharp zodiac]

All because I decided to pick up my niece with my brother

Never doing an act of kindness again

[last solstice]

What happened?

[sharp zodiac]

Went to pick up my baby niece with my brother

Got a bad cold now

I blame one of those kids

[buoyant pecan]

Luna became the Main Human Character of the next Osmosis Jones movie

https://tenor.com/view/thrax-im-contagious-osmosis-jones-gif-8300483

[sharp zodiac]

Fuck yeah I get a sexy antagonist

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/osmosis-jones-excited-happy-gif-6090059618384141774

[ember yew]

where's ending

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-paper-slot-machine-las-vegas-quarantine-casino-gif-16785818

[sharp zodiac]

Damnit discord

[ember yew]

FS need to implement loan services

[sharp zodiac]

Trying to keep the french down

[torn dagger]

I love you all.

[sharp zodiac]

Appreciated

[last solstice]

Thanks…

[viral halo]

One day they will unlock all slots.. right? right?
rip

[last solstice]

Gambling has Risks…

[crisp schooner]

What should I replace the efficiency of the blocks with?

[last solstice]

If you don't know, get Flak or Maniac?

[crisp schooner]

or unyielding

[spice wren]

I wish we got a Scion helmet for zealot

or that the scion helmet was all class like other pieces.

Just imagine this zealot set with the Scion helmet..

why fartshart it would make sense. :<

Iotan Gorgonnes wear green, they're Tempestus Scions, and they normally get deployed along with the Battle-Sisters so they're probably a bit zealous.

[polar nexus]

Because you can parrykill everything

[faint prairie]

zealot

[ripe quest]

Parry, good horde and maniac damage, nice finesse values. They used to be insane with the bugged Rampage but are currently just balanced around doing good damage to those 3 armor types and pairing with a ranged weapon to cover stuff like Ogryns. The parry offers a lot of survivability if you can get used to it, valuable to some.

If you're doing a crit CDR build they're on the table for it.

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-is-the-game-was-rigged-from-shot-kill-gif-13763696

[ripe quest]

The strikedowns also have good Unyielding damage iirc

The weapon just mostly falls off against Carapace, and a bit against Flak.

I'm not sure how it compares to Hsword but it's in the top 3 for melee horde clear damage with Chainsword, Hsword, and Dclaw.

[old oasis]

💀

[obtuse solstice]

is this good enough or do I really need flakiac

[ember yew]

check flak armor heads on various mobs in psykanium, if you can onehit kill flak heads, then its ok (on trash mobs)

also decimator is not something i would use

but w/e

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/chivalry-2/clips/1PAjO8S5zTqTvw/d1337N2O1gcb?invite=cr-MSxjZzgsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[native cargo]

gay

[copper hawk]

NOT GAY

!!

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[lime ember]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979062034706628628/1196783032577830982/we1fta.gif?ex=65b8e20e&is=65a66d0e&hm=ef0dd4f96273fb51781ed68a87d63c02d8b0f7afe96ca38d1052be50cfe903d4&

FOR THE GOD-EMPEROR!

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-headbutt-funny-love-gif-25033864

[buoyant pecan]

What imp has the balls to tell a Sistet
"Yea. Fuck you your kinda shit."

[sharp zodiac]

I take back everything I said I hate snow

[kind idol]

i just spent the last 2hrs shoveling -_-

[sharp zodiac]

I got hit by a shovel

Now I'm cold everywhere

[kind idol]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[native cargo]

don't blame the snow you giggly toot

blame the shovel smh

[sharp zodiac]

A guy was helping me shovel

Then he lifted his shovel and got distracted, and hit me

[kind idol]

giggly toot lol im stealing this

[native cargo]

:3

go ahead

[native cargo]

Stop being hot or whatever idk

dude got distracted either by something cool af or you being hot

stop it

[sharp zodiac]

He was looking at the view

[native cargo]

view of what

[sharp zodiac]

Town

[native cargo]

Hope it is a good town

[hollow mantle]

First 1 million damage game

[copper hawk]

Ur an eebie deebert.

[native cargo]

cica don't you have like

cat naps to do

or smth idk cats