#zealot-class

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random berry
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oh boy a maelstrom lights out/waves of specials/monstrous enemies

ripe quest
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It's on the way to Judgement, you either grab SC or backstab CDR

polar nexus
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oh, yes, it's not a tax node at least

meager turret
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Not home so can’t play the maelstrom sadHatCat

spare talon
fleet zealot
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U may not “respectfully disagree” with me. Pick up your sword and behead me if you wanna be a disagreer

onyx solar
spare talon
onyx solar
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or perhaps the trapper waiting for you politely

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oooh

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yeah that bullshit, right there

meager turret
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What even is the consistent dodge for the chaos spawn’s grab

spare talon
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you can get a good estimate by looking at the beasts vomit

onyx solar
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good old magnetic arm

spare talon
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this was the second time in a row in this engagement too

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where it was a chaos spawn grab with a perfectly timed bomber grenade

meager turret
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I’m allowed to backdodge a plague ogryn’s slam and uppercut while stuck in a corner but the spawn’s got some magnets

spare talon
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i barely made it out alive with until death and a med stim

spare talon
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in that fight

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there are 2 in that clip

fleet zealot
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like 4/5 o clock

meager turret
spare talon
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god i am actually so fucking infuriated about that

fleet zealot
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you can consistently do it in psykanium I just dont remember how

meager turret
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I can’t figure out if it’s the timing or angle

spare talon
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like i can very reliable dodge spawns now
but then shit like that happens and im wondering why i even bother

little thicket
fleet zealot
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yee

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that s the issue

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i havent been spawn grabbed since the nerfs

meager turret
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Because when I test it in the psykanium I can backdodge it with some tight timing but in-game is just weird

spare talon
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if that isnt a latency issue
im going to tell fatshark devs very unkind words

fleet zealot
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but for the life of me I can't nail down why

spare talon
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like fart, for example
thats kinda unkind

fleet zealot
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fart

spare talon
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wonder what theyd think about that one

meager turret
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Doesn’t help that dealing with a spawn often pushes you into a corner anyway whether you like it or not

spare talon
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maybe ill tell them they smell a bit

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or that their haircut was better before

fleet zealot
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dont let yourself be cornered if you can

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make some side ways dodges to circle around

meager turret
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I’ll try to side dodge and immediately get pushed back again depending on the attack

spare talon
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actually i do better against them in a corner since im parrying, and i still have a reliable exit method for grabs to either side

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since the grab does allow you to push out of the corner

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both spawns and plague ogryns are better parried against a wall so your counter attack doesnt miss due to sheer knockback from the parrying the attack itself

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i think the only attack that doesnt knock you back from a spawn is when theyre swinging a player

meager turret
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A spawn throwing an ogryn should do damage to teammates for funny value

worldly bramble
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Me:
Teammate: *stabs me with combat stim*
Me: LEEROY JENKIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNS

worldly bramble
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On a lark I took the +10% melee speed talent
Then used a celerity stimm and activated my dash
I was swingin' dat chainaxe I tell yuh hwat

meager turret
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When a teammate stims me in the middle of an empty room

worldly bramble
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I'm having a ball being a chainaxe zel

steel agate
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Deleted message for cool meme to work

worldly bramble
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The one I got has Rev It Up and I'm seriously tempted to keep it 'cause I'm just so dang squirrely.

median steeple
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I say keep it for the memes ngl

steel agate
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100% crit chance is pretty fun

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For doing something u planned to do

worldly bramble
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The Bloodthirsty one?

steel agate
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Oh wait ya I’m confusing blessings

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Rev it up the speedy one, mad fun too

median steeple
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yeah the fastest you can go (iirc) is rev it up with other buffs

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there is an old video in the reddit with it (the only good thing to come from there)

worldly bramble
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My other blessing's Thrust but I'll switch it for Thunderous soon as I get the Tier.IV of that.

median steeple
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wait on what?

steel agate
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Ooo thunderous, good option

potent shuttle
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on my zealot, thinking of using it for my stealth knife build

unique harness
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Thank the Beneficent Emperor, Holy Ammunition!

delicate shadow
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I'm one of the chosen yeah, I'll keep it in mind

fleet zealot
median steeple
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my PC trying to launch STALKER 2

fleet zealot
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I WANT ENEMIES To be cut in half like the evi does

median steeple
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I think we have a chaos cultist in our midst

delicate shadow
fleet zealot
north sedge
proud scroll
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is this ok

fading vale
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pretty solid, sad it's not 76 burn but that is pretty good overall

dawn wharf
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Is 76 a min for something in particular? I don't play a ton of flamer

fading vale
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76 is the max burn stack breakpoint

dawn wharf
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Aaah that makes sense

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Damn that's kinda high too

cerulean pike
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we out here

fading vale
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at least the only stats that matter are burn and cloud radius

dawn wharf
median steeple
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definitely a winter of all time

obtuse magnet
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what (non-flamer) gun should i run on knife zealot

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no revolver needed on account of throwing knives

delicate shadow
obtuse magnet
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thinking probably just a columnus or boltor but i want other options

muted sonnet
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bolter would prob go well

obtuse magnet
north sedge
# delicate shadow truuuu

What i did NOT replace:
-Ambient noises like wind.
-some zombie voices.
-character voices (it would sound dumb).
-maybe i missed some minor physics like a trap door hidden somewhere in ravenholm and no one ever opens it.
Totally i replaced 1327 sound files.

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median steeple
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but yeah braced autos are fun as hell to use

median steeple
fleet zealot
fleet zealot
obtuse magnet
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tried all the braced autos and they just kinda felt bad tbh

ripe quest
cerulean pike
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ah yes
lasgun
killing 1 target every 5 seconds

ripe quest
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Saves a tiny bit of ammo

median steeple
ripe quest
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The IV in particular has so much fucking ammo

fleet zealot
ripe quest
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It's like 2 minutes straight of just shooting

obtuse magnet
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yea ive got a like 378 IV with 80% ammo on my vet

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holy shit that thing doesnt run out

fleet zealot
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Burn
Strength of the Weapon's Damage over Time (DoT) effects.

Max Damage Over Time Stacks: [8 - 16]
Damage Over Time Application Rate: [0.44 - 0.31]

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Damage
How much damage the weapon inflicts.

Damage vs First Target: [9 - 11]
Burning Intensity: [0.41 - 0.29]

median steeple
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I wish they'd give us the actual ammo count instead of the goofy 3 ammo for one shot

fleet zealot
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huh you are right exhillious

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thanks for being smart

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flamer dumpstat mobility then

cerulean pike
obtuse magnet
ripe quest
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mmm, I'll check it again. The DoT application rate would reasonably be for what I'm saying the Damage stat does.

cerulean pike
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literally just: survivalist.

done

ripe quest
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I implore you to try it for the novelty.

obtuse magnet
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columnus actually runs out of ammo sometimes but like the IV literally did not run out at all unless i was literally shooting walls

cerulean pike
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I have never run out of columnus ammo

obtuse magnet
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yea but you get low

ripe quest
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It's not super competetive with DPS for the autoguns or brautos but you could like, spam ammo into a horde and not be punished it's so goofy

cerulean pike
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not really

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both hordes and specials alike will suffer from my columnus

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and i have never run into ammo problems

cerulean pike
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listen my columnus is rated e for everyone

ripe quest
steel agate
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Braced?

obtuse magnet
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good luck barely 1tapping poxwalkers lol

cerulean pike
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IAG

steel agate
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Oh also dope

cerulean pike
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the superior gun

ripe quest
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IAG is just shredder 2.0

obtuse magnet
steel agate
obtuse magnet
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theres a clip i sent a few days ago of me hitting 17k dps and oneclipping a plague ogryn on damnation

ripe quest
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Now, the Graia Brauto is shredder 3.0 the alt fire is crazy

north sedge
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The true successor to autopistol is...flesh tearer lacerate

obtuse magnet
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L lacerate

ripe quest
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nuh uh bloodletter Chainsword obviously

royal vortex
obtuse magnet
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imagine a blessing literally asking you for less damage

ripe quest
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imo the ammo economy of the Graia and the Columnus should be swapped since the Graia has the highest DPS available for Brautos. Would actually match what the lasguns have going on.

royal vortex
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i don't know if i want them to touch the brautos at all atm

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the problem is

heavy arch
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josho whenever i run throwign knives i forget to use them and go whole game just on crusher

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ur guide got me fucked up

royal vortex
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i can get over 100% damage from the 2 most useful blessings and grab dance of death + the ranged aspd stuff

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and when u see what the columnus does with that its just ridiculous

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but the gun is entirely different if u dont do that

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until they fix bracing i think taking a graia brauto is asking the game to fuck you with bad input queueing

ripe quest
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I don't think the Graia or Agri would change much comparatively when running that same combo with them.

ripe quest
royal vortex
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trying to swap while bracing can just cause u to continue bracing

obtuse magnet
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i can hold revolver aim through a horde killing me but if a poxwalker dares to breath on my neck you get stunned out of bracing

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that too

royal vortex
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i cannot say in good faith they need to make this weapon stronger when u can just absolutely shit on patrols and whatnot with it because of stuff like chastise

obtuse magnet
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wait zealot dash buffs firerate

ripe quest
royal vortex
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its the magsize relative to its damage per shot

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w/o factoring in collaterals (which are hit or miss) generally u can get the smallest percentage of mag fired for the most stacks of ff/ds

royal vortex
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when u factor in how much u can juice the attack speed it gets dumb

cerulean pike
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I HATE

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INCLINES

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EUGH

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SAN FRANCISCO SUCKS

bitter anvil
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California sucks enough?

median steeple
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what 20 degrees of incline does to a mf

cerulean pike
sharp zodiac
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Oh god

median steeple
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Why must people build cities in areas like that

cerulean pike
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SAN JOSE IS MORE WALKABLE

obtuse magnet
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imagine having inclines

cerulean pike
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FUCK SF

ripe quest
obtuse magnet
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this post made by the midwest

median steeple
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even in the plains there are cities like that

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why must people building cities in valleys

bitter anvil
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They want hiking within city

sharp zodiac
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Because they don't want to feel like they wasted money on a car

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In other words they're itches

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With a B

bitter anvil
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Itches with w

cerulean pike
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this should be an illegal incline holy f u c k

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walking up that while hauling a motorcycle jacket + helmet is not fun

sinful widget
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i need some tips for the ironhelm, guys
i only played around to familiarize myself with the attack patterns in psykh but never put it to actual use

bleak sierra
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Is there a zealot comprehensive guide here like in the psyker channel or no?

atomic sparrow
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which blessing do i replace to Thrust 4? gonna refine sprint to Unyielding obviously

royal vortex
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i can't find any good live game killstreaks where another person isn't dealing some type of damage but u get the point

sinful widget
royal vortex
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weapons in some regard can be differentiated by secondary characteristics and not being forced to brace to use the gun properly is HUGE

ripe quest
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We have a lot of individual documents.

open pollen
royal vortex
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i know the columnus cleaves a poxwalker/groaner when at full stacks

coral smelt
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So, shouldnt you run 3 wound curios to get the most out of martyr? Also I feel like the heavy on mk4 chaxe is so ass i end up using the push attack most of the time

royal vortex
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i can't remember where i can find the actual numbers cuz i don't wanna test it in the psykh

ripe quest
open pollen
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In the future, when people turn 30, they have to ascend the slope in a motorcycle jacket and helmet. If they survive, they become a citizen of NeoEuro. If they fail, they perish.

ripe quest
royal vortex
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real men run 3 hp curios martyrdom with bfte for maximum overhead tanking

ornate bone
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Based

north sedge
ornate bone
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One thing to keep in mind about woundgating is that not everything will get that massive damage reduction

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Gunners will melt you if you don't have proper toughness and health, since the shots deal little damage individually and won't trigger woundgating reliably

royal vortex
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fk i deleted the clip where i jumped down into an overhead i couldnt see at the start of consignment yard

slender oasis
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mega sword

ornate bone
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I can't see it loregryn

cerulean pike
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As much as this view was great the climb up was not fucking worth it

drifting wolf
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beautiful view of nature right there, several cars in hibernation

ripe quest
coral smelt
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also with martyrdom i cant really run crit cdr, is the damage taken cdr even good?

calm salmon
calm salmon
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Just trying to figure out what they want the braced function to do

ripe quest
calm salmon
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Call me tired then I guess

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still don't get the point of bracing though

sharp zodiac
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Wow it snowed more than I thought

calm salmon
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Granted: Neither the col or agrip have a braced function buff so I guess fatshark doesn't either, really.

ripe quest
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The Graia gets access to the most damage per second a Brauto can offer with the braced. For the Agri and Columnus it's just for short burst accuracy, the hipfire will be better for spraying. Not a whole lot of utility yeah.

coral smelt
ripe quest
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It'd be kinda interesting if they all had some kinda alt-fire thing but I'm not sure how that would play out.

fleet zealot
ripe quest
fleet zealot
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martyrdom

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you dont really need cdr

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not even curious

misty mason
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I would have thought Agri would trump graia for DPS if you factor in cleave

ornate bone
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I have the most absolute hatred for the fact sliding doesn't dodge melee attacks

fleet zealot
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curios you want your minor perks being toughness, hp, and a resistance either gunner, sniper or pure corruption

calm salmon
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and uh

royal vortex
calm salmon
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i dunno

misty mason
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But I guess its theoretical dps vs actual expected

ripe quest
royal vortex
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it's one of those times where the game just gets angrier if u brace a brauto and can eat inputs

ripe quest
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I haven't ever had that issue idk

royal vortex
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its really bad with a revolver and a weapon that uses activated attacks

misty mason
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Have we heard anything about potential updates at all?

royal vortex
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because u will go to swap -> activate and the game will recognize

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"activate"

ripe quest
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Thank god I don't have that

royal vortex
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and start spamming revolver bashes that you have to wait to finish before you can swap again so if you go to immediately do the same action chain it does ANOTHER FUCKING BASH

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AAAAAAAAAAA

ripe quest
royal vortex
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FIX THE GODDAMN NETCODE REEEEE

royal vortex
ripe quest
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If I'm not having the issues it's probably a server or your own internet being the problem.

misty mason
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Dead inputs are extremely aggravating

royal vortex
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crab/telopots etc report the same issues so while my internet is shit there's also like

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a huge server side element to it and those guys are EU and im NA so i think its a fundamental game issue

misty mason
royal vortex
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yea

north sedge
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I blame the schools

royal vortex
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comissartyr and crab think theyre gonna do a big blessing rework

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as the next major update

ripe quest
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I personally think it's some kinda Chaos Wastes thing

royal vortex
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which is cool ig we'll have to see how that lands because it's controversial

ripe quest
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A lot of the blessings there are chaos wastes like

drifting wolf
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billions of blessings rendered useless

coral smelt
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also is vicious offering worth it because i really dont like the mk4's heavy i just use push attacks

ripe quest
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They even have a carbon copy of the "all allies downed, get a bunch of buffs"

royal vortex
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i don't wanna play chaos wastes with how the game's itemization works

misty mason
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It makes sense to me

royal vortex
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and i very much hope that isn't the thing they put effort into for a long time

ripe quest
misty mason
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Itd be difficult to alter balance without tinkering with blessings

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They just tinkered with enemy distribution/health

ripe quest
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On the Mk IV Vicious Offering is just extra safe padding if you're in a crowd.

misty mason
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And that went
Well
Kind interesting

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GUNNERS

royal vortex
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brutal momentum is a nightmare

ripe quest
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They should still nuke +Power blessings

royal vortex
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i think they super hardcore fucked up by making blessings of the same name (mostly) work the same way as other blessings of the same name on other weaps

ripe quest
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shit is trash leave that to the perks

misty mason
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Yeah I would hope that they will take their experience working on the game and the feedback they've received to rebalance the game that way

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But also it's FS

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So

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Haha

royal vortex
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uncanny strike is cancer

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i very much agree with crab in the sense that i am really annoyed at how many item buffs are actually global character buffs

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like weapon perks and blessings shouldn't apply to dot

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maybe the 1 exception u make for that is flamer/purg cuz that's the whole point

ripe quest
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I find it annoying that Fatshark needs to balance weapons around their blessings. The difference between a Chaxe with the cool blessings and the bad ones is the difference of the Mk XV Evis being better at it for single target. Knife, great example, would suck completely without it's blessings. Problem arises for normal players where they get such a skewed experience depending on what blessings they stumbled on.

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To add a whole other layer to it it's not even just having blessings and no blessings, blessings aren't well balanced with eachother.

coral smelt
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is this one good i have no clue how caxe works

royal vortex
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there's also the player information issue

ripe quest
fading vale
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cleave is one of the most misleading things

ripe quest
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Save your milk coins.

royal vortex
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where blessings will have completely uncommunicated key mechanics or interactions

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and if ur just Joe Darktide Player ur never going to know how it all works

coral smelt
north sedge
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Also is achlys

ripe quest
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Brittle still being listed as 5% per stack ExcuseMeWtf

ripe quest
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There's even a mod up that adds info to descriptions and it's wrong there too

fading vale
# coral smelt pls elaborate

most people assume +cleave does things like effect cleave damage and there are several cleave blessings that don't state their actual effect like BM/deathblow or perfect strike, each weapon has its own cleave profile that isn't explained and some weapons are capped at how many targets they can do damage to

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also the game doesn't explain how hitmass works

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nor does it tell you how much hitmass a weapon cleaves through

ripe quest
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Nor how much hitmass any enemy has

spare dome
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nor how much ass

ripe quest
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I'm a dataminer, 1k hours in, still don't know hitmass values off the top of my head because of how annoying it is to check

coral smelt
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lmao yeah for a game with this many mechanics they could really benefit from an actual compendium in the game

ripe quest
meager turret
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Rending/brittleness questions

mental coral
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groaner <1

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anything else besides poxwalkers >1

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ez see?

misty mason
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The blessing system really does seem like a rod for their own back in a lot of ways

misty mason
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Cause tinkering one blessings affects every weapon its on

mental coral
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Im ngl, I don't aim long enough for surgical to kick in

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should I swap it for curcian roulette kekw

polar nexus
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That crabtalk with telopots was very instructive

vivid condor
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Have room for 1 more change, what should I switch?

misty mason
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So if you're wanting to balance say, a shotgun you have to take into account
Blessings and how they interact with every other weapon
Individual stats on the weapon (as in, does it have first target/cleave etc)
Is it a Vet, Psyker or Zealot using it
What build are those players using (e.g. vet with long range damage buff, zealot with short range)
Intrinsic factors (e.g. how much actual damage per shot base, or how many pellets fired, cleave cap)

ornate bone
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Poxwalkers are 1.5

vivid hawk
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throwing knives have ruined grenades for me

vivid condor
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^

vivid hawk
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out of muscle memory I'll try to yeet a knife and nothing will happen KEKW_ogryn

polar nexus
misty mason
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Compared to the flat bonuses of VT I can see why we're getting new stuff so slowly (relatively speaking)

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It must be a NIGHTMARE to balance this game

polar nexus
vivid condor
polar nexus
vivid condor
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Suppression sucks and running into a whole group of gunners without my ability up is asking to become a pincushion

north sedge
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Best antidote to gunners is charging in

vivid hawk
north sedge
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Grab twbs, care not for their stagger

polar nexus
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If you're a zealot charge, chorus or stealth and deal with them

ripe quest
vivid condor
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I wish its always that easy, but sometimes you're forced to stay near the group

native cargo
ripe quest
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You have two extremes, 1 Crusher or 320 cleave of Crushers.

vivid condor
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But I guess I could replace suppression immunity with Ghost instead

misty mason
vivid hawk
polar nexus
native cargo
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be lit

ripe quest
native cargo
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lmao

vivid hawk
native cargo
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I am erasing bleed knife from history

vivid hawk
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this is my "bleed knife" 😏

native cargo
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nice crusher

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very bleedy

misty mason
vivid hawk
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it's all those little spikes on it

vivid hawk
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just in-case you gotta give a sermon mid horde

misty mason
vivid hawk
misty mason
native cargo
misty mason
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Or page 1 of the booklet

native cargo
native cargo
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ya like jazz?

vivid hawk
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something new for the collection

native cargo
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Idk why she goes on about a collection when she isn't dragging us off like a hook rat does

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sorry packmaster

misty mason
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Someone make a mod that changes the sound trappers make to be the entirety of the bee movie

native cargo
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She just ties you up, leaves you there for the rest of the heretics, and blam

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runs off

vivid hawk
misty mason
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Replace mutie sounds with Macho Man lines

native cargo
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I want my mutie to be the same as my charger

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Basically angry tsundere noises

misty mason
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ROARS AND SLAPS THE GROUND
INITIATES CHARGE
"b..baka"

vivid hawk
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so Ogryn chat has Hank as their resident lurking Warden, who does Zealot chat have?

misty mason
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Skelly and aquilla

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and ocasionally gawain

ripe quest
vivid hawk
misty mason
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Yeah but like

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Cool degeneracy

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Mostly

zealous basin
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old habits

ripe quest
zealous basin
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^

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thats when zealpt chat hit its worst

vivid hawk
zealous basin
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was the vet chat containment breach

misty mason
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There have definitely been fluctuations in the coolness of the degeneracy

zealous basin
ripe quest
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I like this one because it usually has at least 1 smart person hanging around. I've checked into Ogryn chat and seen some goofy shit happening for 30 minutes

zealous basin
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i only remember some of it cuz i was usually drunk

north sedge
vivid hawk
misty mason
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I like this one because people actually know things and will answer you, among shitposting

zealous basin
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ive never answered a question in my life tyvm

misty mason
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Whereas you ask the same question 3 times in vet chat and no one answers

north sedge
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There was a stretch where this channel had most of the activity of the server

misty mason
zealous basin
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yeah

vivid hawk
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we can all agree that old gen chat was.... yeah...

zealous basin
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FUCK

misty mason
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CALL THE FEDS

zealous basin
vivid hawk
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therefore, no feds

misty mason
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Jesus christ, old gen chat

steep flame
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modded fallout sure is something

zealous basin
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thats the joke bitch

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!

misty mason
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The truest degeneracy of the worst kind

steep flame
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he's beautiful

steep flame
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tootiing my horn for charon

misty mason
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Old gen chat was genuinely awful

zealous basin
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ur telling me its not still awful?

misty mason
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How would I know

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Implying I'd ever go back there lmao

vivid hawk
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as it should be

misty mason
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I just remember it being like 75% bitching about the CMs and making the same memey jokes, 24% bitching about the game and if you were lucky 1% talking about the game itself

vivid hawk
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you must have missed the "Furry" period of gen chat

random berry
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time to stop playing my zealot.

misty mason
#

I mean I stopped using gen chat verrrry quickly

vivid hawk
#

yeah, gen chat was never a great place for info

random berry
#

gotta shieldgryn to babysit damnation players

sharp zodiac
#

Like me

vivid hawk
mental coral
#

Who uses gen chat in discord

#

in any discord

misty mason
#

Depends how big the game is

#

Or how niche the converastions are

sharp zodiac
zealous basin
#

are like 90% gen chat ime

#

gets annoying when they arent

mental coral
#

btw anyone wanna upload crabtalk to reddit

#

kinda wanna see their takes

meager turret
#

Huh

cerulean pike
#

ate some good fuckin bbq

#

whew

#

dying

meager turret
#

Share

cerulean pike
#

No fuck you

cerulean pike
#

Crab is a YouTube celebrity now

#

We’re not good enough for him anymore

fading vale
#

it is actually impossible to keep up with crabtalk in real time

cerulean pike
#

He hates us

fading vale
#

man's brain is too big

mental coral
#

Some of the things I’m not sure if I agree with

#

But I’m also a filthy casual

fading vale
#

well nobody agrees with you so

mental coral
#

If I said bleed knife sucks would you suddenly say it was good

royal vortex
#

everyone agrees with me

cerulean pike
#

Shut up josho

buoyant pecan
#

I made that

zealous basin
#

god steve is so DUMB

#

i want to smush him

fading vale
royal vortex
#

i saw a comment on that video where someone said crab sounds like he's talking at 1.5x speed

mental coral
#

oh yeah

#

in the twitch chat

royal vortex
#

to me he sounds normal

mental coral
#

he sounds fast but its aight

fading vale
#

bro crab helped me learn path of exile and my brain just wanted to explode

mental coral
#

lol

#

I still need to get back in that game

#

I told a friend I was interested in the latest league

#

and I haven't touched it yet

fading vale
#

this dude

#

knew all the lore and when characters were going to say specific lines

mental coral
#

Thats uh

#

Who plays PoE for the lore

fading vale
mental coral
#

Telopots wants launch psyker quelling

#

yeah thats a take

misty mason
#

Wait crab did a 3 hour talk about Darktide?

buoyant pecan
sharp zodiac
#

Apparently

misty mason
#

I can't wait to listen to it while not playing Darktide

buoyant pecan
misty mason
#

Play Satisfactory and listen to Crab

sharp zodiac
#

I've been listening to it while playing chiv 2

royal vortex
sharp zodiac
#

At least for like half of it then stopped

royal vortex
#

psyker feels very mechanically boring for the class that has the most speshul stuff going on

sharp zodiac
#

Battery was draining too fast

misty mason
royal vortex
#

everything on launch was aids

misty mason
#

I would be an excellent genie

sharp zodiac
#

I wish for more wishes

misty mason
#

No

sharp zodiac
#

Fuckb

misty mason
#

Gottem

sharp zodiac
#

I wish every girl had 2 extra toes

misty mason
#

Every girl when purchasing a car now is offered two tow bars for free

#

Alternatively

sharp zodiac
#

Fuck I forgot you're a Genie

misty mason
#

Two albums by Japanese Mathrock band Toe

sharp zodiac
#

I gotta be extremely specific

mental coral
#

Peril at launch that you blew up at 85+, your active quell took time to ramp up, but it took so fucking long that there was zero reason to ever actually active quell because your passive quell was faster

royal vortex
#

except that he didn't specifically mean "back to how it was on launch" as in "quell peril by equipping a non-force weapon and watching the number go down faster" what he specifically wanted was to bring back the ramping quell speed

mental coral
#

no he said he wanted peril quell to ramp up "like back at launch"

royal vortex
#

to ramp up

#

yes

#

did he give hard numbers no

mental coral
#

I mean he says "voidstrike is too powerful" which is a take

royal vortex
#

did he say "explode at 85+" no he actually said something entirely different from that

mental coral
#

its good

royal vortex
#

where u would have a new Danger Zone type thing that means peril management is a bit less about literally just making the game go "can cast" as opposed to "can't cast"

mental coral
#

he wants health damage on peril quelling which is

#

also a take

royal vortex
#

i think u can reasonably infer "as it was on launch" to mean a system similar to that because what he talks about specifically is incentivizing quelling for longer because it ramps up it doesn't mean literally those numbers in that prior iteration of the game

mental coral
#

I mean at this point we are arguing over semantics

#

he said he wanted peril quelling like at launch, and I disagree that was all my comment was

royal vortex
#

when ur contention is the "at launch" part yes that is a semantical argument but it also completely changes the point

fleet zealot
#

fuck dem microplastics i'm getting my macro plastics

royal vortex
#

because what u brought up is a bunch of stuff that did happen at launch but isn't what he said he wanted

misty mason
#

Make it like table top and have it have a chance to summon a fucken demon if you cast at high perils

mental coral
#

yeah he wants health damage on quell which is like

#

lmao what

royal vortex
#

health damage on quell above a certain threshold

misty mason
#

That's how it kind of works on VT, except you have temp health in VT sooo

royal vortex
#

where if u have too much peril and u active quell u suffer the pain

mental coral
#

they would have to redesign half the skill tree for that

royal vortex
#

i mean not really

mental coral
#

half of psyker's shit is based on playing at high peril

#

form warp nexus to warp rider to even the fucking push attack

royal vortex
#

u must comprehend that what he said

mental coral
#

scriers as well

royal vortex
#

was active quelling

#

and not passive

#

because that also completely changes the point

#

the point he was making was to bring about a system where if u go over a certain threshold you incur health damage for active quelling instead of passive

#

and then you would offset this by making certain actions also quell peril

mental coral
#

yes and I think its stupid

royal vortex
#

yeah but also what you're arguing against isn't the entire point which isn't a very fair way to look at it

stark flame
#

flameo hotmen, can this be made meta ?

misty mason
#

I dont remember the break point for burn, but I think its higher than that

gray ice
#

76

#

damn

misty mason
#

Yeah, thought so

#

RIP

stark flame
#

Brutal

fading vale
frozen glen
#

put showstopper on it for the extra 800 dmg

#

(real)

misty mason
#

Burn is the amount of ticks right? So it cant be bumped through power/talents yeah?

fading vale
#

it's the number of max burn stacks

royal vortex
#

it's the burn stack application speed (i dont know if this number does anything worth thinking about) and the max number

fading vale
#

76 is 15 stacks which is like 10% more DPS

#

not a deal breaker or anything

misty mason
#

Yeah so as you said, still should be a good flamer

#

Just not meta

north sedge
#

Bay leaf

misty mason
#

Bae leaf

royal vortex
#

bleaf

ebon agate
#

Quick question

Blessings are Rampage and Shred

Perks are 20% unyielding and 8% melee against pox and groaners (tier 3/4)

Still have 1 Hadron left

What to do?

stark flame
#

thanks

ebon agate
#

Put flak over melee?

Or maniac?

Or melee crit?

misty mason
#

I imagine change pox to flak

fleet zealot
#

Fuck i saw a wonderful new ferret picture on twitter but then it bugged out and vanished before i could copy it

ornate bone
rigid trellis
cyan seal
#

Does 'hitmass bonus' just apply to cleave?

fading vale
minor sage
reef pewter
#

hey fellow Zealots. for the devils claw parry, anyone know why it doesnt always parry attacks? sometimes I get hit straight through it, and even parry attacks right after, most common with ragers but happens with trash mobs too

royal vortex
#

do u have twbs

cyan seal
fleet zealot
#

you can have a possum mother with anxiety instead i guess

minor sage
#

the different levels of heat actually meant different things

fleet zealot
royal vortex
#

if no the answer is you're getting hitstunned out of the parry animation (probably)

minor sage
#

like if you were yellow or orange heat, you would burn HP when you vent

royal vortex
#

and it's still playing it on client side but not actually doing it on the server

fleet zealot
royal vortex
#

some attacks in rager combos have double-hits which can also fuck you up

fleet zealot
#

overheads especially only have a 300ms parry window

minor sage
#

and the vent speed would also change

reef pewter
ripe quest
#

Time to watch the 3 hour crab video because god knows what future updates he'll sneak in under his breath.

royal vortex
#

the solution is to just mash the parry key

fleet zealot
#

the visual animation <> your actual parry window

royal vortex
#

yes it plays a ghost animation

fleet zealot
#

twbs is also important

royal vortex
#

you think you're parrying

misty mason
#

It makes me laugh that they kept the VT berserker animations, considering they were legit one of the worst in the game

royal vortex
#

because the client says you are

minor sage
#

with what u found out

royal vortex
#

but the server says no

#

which is the bug

misty mason
#

Youd watch the head of the axe swing like a metre away from you, but fuck you, you got hit

royal vortex
#

it only happens if you get hitstunned by something as you're doing the anim

reef pewter
crude lake
#

How much damage does the block attack do on the mk 6 knife

misty mason
#

oh no

#

I did the thing

polar nexus
royal vortex
#

wait are we talking parry animation as in

reef pewter
polar nexus
#

he wants the ragers to be more fun

minor sage
#

time to bring back brauto and autopistol

royal vortex
#

is 'active parry timing' when ur swinging the sword to hit the guy with the riposte or when u have the block up

polar nexus
#

because they made the combo to punish spamdodging

reef pewter
polar nexus
#

except now, everybody will just shoot them and not enter melee with them

zealous basin
#

guys ive been chatting with this girl all day for like 5 days and im starting to think she may be into me??

#

fuck idk man

ripe quest
zealous basin
#

darktide.

crude lake
#

The game got a lot more fun but also a lot worse with patch 13

mental coral
crude lake
#

Everything is so strong now changing how ragers works wouldn’t even matter

misty mason
#

Will it work this time

zealous basin
#

wait is there a crab youtube????

crude lake
#

I remember seeing muties and 4K health made them a menace

zealous basin
#

i will RECONNECT

crude lake
#

We one shot them now

misty mason
#

fml

polar nexus
crude lake
#

Idk I’ve only ever seen crab in here

zealous basin
#

any of yall ever read any Ian m. banks books

mental coral
#

Idk I feel like some of the changes suggested from the video won't go over well with the general playerbase

crude lake
polar nexus
#

it was a lot of telopots complaining and crab saying akshually

zealous basin
#

theyre good books

#

read excession

misty mason
royal vortex
#

then idk u could try timing better or praying fs doesn't fuck u over

fleet zealot
crude lake
zealous basin
#

i forgot my point om wine drunk

#

duck

#

but

fleet zealot
#

we are trying to help with common parry issues

reef pewter
zealous basin
#

read excession

mental coral
royal vortex
#

i know of certain bugs that happen under different conditions but i can't do much to help if i can't see the specific instances of it happening yea

mental coral
#

which I kinda find funny cuz darktide is like you know... not that hardcore

crude lake
mental coral
#

I don't think any horde shooter is super hardcore tbh

polar nexus
#

what we learned tho is that fatshark com are in no talking mode because they were hurt so much lol

buoyant pecan
#

As an apology for forcing me to work a 16 hour shift, I am being given the rest of tomorrow off

mental coral
#

unless you count GTFO and even then there is cheese and people thinking the game is too easy

buoyant pecan
ripe quest
#

Crab has some opinions that aren't always agreeable. It's whatever, everyone has different ideas of what would fix the game.

buoyant pecan
#

That doesn't even tell you

misty mason
#

Fatshark probably aren't in a talking mood because the community is so toxic towards the CMs lol

buoyant pecan
#

What to do

#

Or where to go

fleet zealot
#

all i know is that the parry ready animation doesn't line up with the actual parry, and that certain attacks like overheads have tight 300m timing

buoyant pecan
#

XD

polar nexus
#

he said bolter was good, so fuck you reddit

mental coral
#

lmao

#

he did say bolter was good

sharp zodiac
#

Man im bored

crude lake
royal vortex
modest pebble
#

I basically rolled this is it good?

sharp zodiac
misty mason
#

Sedition Steve

mental coral
polar nexus
#

Uprising Ulric

#

Auric Eric

misty mason
#

Next boss of DT: Sedition Steve

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

i mean the ai director is all over the place in a fairly annoying way

fading vale
#

man if only the game had different difficulty levels

misty mason
#

Damnation Doug

polar nexus
royal vortex
#

i get a bunch of games with 200+ ranged elites and like 40 melee

#

and thats really boring

crude lake
royal vortex
#

cuz at a certain point adding more ranged elites doesn't actually change the game

crude lake
#

Idk let us have our perfect weapons

fleet zealot
#

bolter is better than it was first post nerf

misty mason
misty mason
#

Last time they tweaked enemies, we got

this

zealous basin
#

fucking STEVEN

royal vortex
#

bolter is good it's just not good in the way a lot of people want bolter to be

fleet zealot
#

tbf i do love the variant horde system

minor sage
#

instructions unclear, injecting more gunners

zealous basin
#

god i wanna bash his head in

#

i love him so much

#

🥺

fleet zealot
#

it is just a nice change of pace to have the horde spawn wiht flanking shotgunners and full of maulers

royal vortex
#

they need to completely redesign the composition of patrols

minor sage
royal vortex
#

20x shotgunners is dumb

crude lake
minor sage
#

the problem is that due to the existence of scav, you never feel any resource pressure

misty mason
#

Yeah I mean bolter is good in a way that doesn't realllly match its expected use. But also we are squishy mortals, so maybe it kind of lines up in that regard?

fading vale
#

6 bulwarks and 10 crushers

modest pebble
#

damnation daria

mental coral
#

Also some of this shit is just

#

very grandiose

polar nexus
#

ah yeah crab wanted to rework focus so that it's not just ping = more dmg

reef pewter
polar nexus
#

you could have a ping direction and it's more speed toward it

north sedge
#

I think this is a crab opinion we can get behind

royal vortex
#

would make me want to use it even less

mental coral
minor sage
zealous basin
#

in what fucking world do phil collins steven tyler and bon jovi sound rhe same

#

stan is a baby right

north sedge
#

It's ok you're like 4

polar nexus
#

i wish the ping did not have a clang sound

zealous basin
#

how old is stan?

mental coral
zealous basin
#

i didnt develop an ear for music until i was like 19

zealous basin
#

stan can have a pass

fading vale
zealous basin
#

WHAT

mental coral
#

wait hes only 29?

reef pewter
mental coral
#

I legit thought he was like

royal vortex
#

attack 1 staggers, subsequent followups don't get parried

crude lake
mental coral
#

40 something

#

hes a teacher n all that

zealous basin
#

STAN IS FUXK8NG THE OLDEST PWRSO. IN TH8S CHAT?????

royal vortex
#

the solution is to mash parry

zealous basin
#

I DO NOT BELIEVE TOU

#

you

north sedge
#

And he studied music

zealous basin
#

i studied music...

royal vortex
#

like legit when you get the timing you wanna parry just keep hitting the key

misty mason
#

Woah, we're halfway there
WOOOO OHHH
STAN TAKE OVER HERE

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

cuz what it'll do is have parry input 1 fail due to hitstun but still do the fake animation, parry input 2 will actually do the parry

#

this is super annoying and i hope they fix it

#

because a "parry" type mechanic should never encourage this but u do what u gotta do

crude lake
royal vortex
#

no i listen to crab

misty mason
ripe quest
zealous basin
#

with instruments and stuff

crude lake
reef pewter
crude lake
#

Fix

misty mason
ripe quest
royal vortex
#

telopots (a dt streamer) had this issue where he was getting ghost parries and the solution for him was to just mash the key

reef pewter
zealous basin
ripe quest
#

Just don't have desync issues pixelpepe

#

ez

royal vortex
#

it's not even desync

#

you can repro it in the psykh

misty mason
zealous basin
#

orange is a color.

misty mason
zealous basin
#

you're a fruit.

heavy arch
#

what came first the color or the fruit

zealous basin
#

im sorry is that homophobic

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

it's the full animation

#

works on attacks too

#

the server will go "you don't actually do that" but the client plays the animation thinking that u do it

misty mason
#

So a legume

zealous basin
#

true.....

royal vortex
#

it's just most noticeable on the dclaw parry

ripe quest
#

I imagine it's some issue where the anim and the actual parry gets offset then. Probs popped up when they changed the parry a bit ago.

spare talon
#

do weakened monstrosities count for the psyker brain burst penace?

reef pewter
#

should

#

you in zealot though lol

spare talon
#

ik

mystic ether
#

if you can do enough dmg to them fast enough yeah

reef pewter
#

but I'm a psyker main so you caught me

misty mason
#

Zealot is all class chat, but cooler

reef pewter
#

I did it on a daemonhost though with a shieldgryn friend

spare talon
#

im helping my brother do it

#

with his friends

#

have i mentioned theyre leveling

misty mason
#

I asked my pug and they let me waste their time doing it before they restricted to premades, like a REAL psyker

spare talon
#

this is the current auric maelstrom

royal vortex
#

a shieldgryn offered to help me get it in a pub way back in the day

spare talon
#

the 83k docket one lmao

royal vortex
#

it took 2 dhs as an ironhelm zealot hit the first dh once

spare talon
#

cuz its monsterous maelstrom rn

#

and im just gonna taunt them and hope it fucking works

#

hopefully they can live long enough for it to happen

misty mason
#

Remember when it was 100% damage, so if even a stray bullet hit you lost the penance lol

spare talon
#

the 2 lower levels can barely handle malice in this lobby

misty mason
#

tbf I feel like 70% of the skill at this game is building muscle memory and reflex

spare talon
#

this maelstrom

zealous basin
#

knowledge is never useful until its reflexively conditioned

#

unless the game isnt real time ig

reef pewter
misty mason
zealous basin
#

wait

#

have i mentioned that before?

misty mason
#

no

#

but like

#

Its stardew valley

#

Everyone plays that

zealous basin
#

stardew valley is one of the most stressful games i've ever played via the limites time mechanic

#

it

#

i cant deal with it

misty mason
#

Imagine not getting the community centre done in year one

zealous basin
#

i can play hunt showdown and dbd killer and darktide no sweat

#

but stardew sends my anxiety through the roof

misty mason
#

lol

#

Famously stressful game, Stardew Valley

zealous basin
#

i swear to god

#

unironically

misty mason
#

I've been playing satisfactory and that is pretty stress free until your power turns off unexpectedly

fleet zealot
north sedge
#

flip has videogame ptsd, virtual bullets are no problem, but he cannot handle virtual civillian life

south folio
#

too bad satisfactory isn't a game I can continuously play

#

so I play intermittently and forget what my factory layout is

#

and basically just restart each time from scratch each time I do

mental coral
#

this man doesn't keep a blue print of his factory on hand

misty mason
#

I had some friends show me their really nicely laid out factories and then I showed them my conveyorbelt hell

#

Tbf it's mostly just the starting area that's bad

#

As I expanded it got... less hellish

fading vale
#

Look at this dude sharing the pillow

mental coral
#

aww cute cat

#

anyways its 11 Ima go sleep now

misty mason
#

Sleep tite

polar nexus
zealous basin
#

i thought u were 19

polar nexus
#

i decided to do knifuary, should i do februhammer next? and if so, what to play on my vet or psyker that would be hammerlike?

polar nexus
fading vale
#

I'm older than stan granted we are the same age currently

zealous basin
#

ur telling me i am YOUNGER than average?

#

ive gotten used to being the decrepit husk in every discord besides this one ig

north sedge
#

stan is 13, 29, and 83 all at once

zealous basin
#

damn guys this girl is cute af

#

and she be talking like i do

#

🥺

#

i havent crushed this hard in a spicy lil minute

misty mason
zealous basin
#

u feel me????

coral smelt
#

ok i just played like 3 games with martyrdom and i definitely could not tank crusher overhead, or mauler, also the chaxe dodge is like trash and i am constantly getting netted despite i pressed dodge

fading vale
ornate bone
#

Holy shit, haymaker decays per stack

zealous basin
gray ice
zealous basin
#

cmon its 2024 i can ai generate all the 2d waifus i can imagine

#

that aint what anyone cares about

fading vale
#

lmao caring about a 3d girl

fleet zealot
#

i can't wait till they animate this scene in a decade

north sedge
#

After mappa has killed every animator through overwork

fleet zealot
#

also true

#

bomb devil arc is a movie right?

#

fuck mappa is screwed

misty mason
#

Fucken mappa lol

frozen glen
#

classic jp work culture

#

never change my anime waifu utopia country

coral smelt
#

a mauler hit me and i instantly hit zero and triggered until death

misty mason
#

They do jjk and chainsaw man right? I feel like another big one too yea?

#

Demonslayer?

coral smelt
#

I kept hearing people talk about how tanky it is but I am just not feeling it. These huge hits are hitting me like normal

north sedge
#

Yea jjk is the one where staff said fuck this

coral smelt
#

while random gun dudes eats my toughness

north sedge
#

What is your build

misty mason
#

Ah attack on titan was the other big one

minor sage
#

and where did you get this build

#

lmao

#

bcz if you say youtube

#

i'm gonna smack ya

coral smelt
#

no i got it from here in this chat

misty mason
#

Man it sucks that they don't treat their staff well. Jjk is legit the best anime I've seen in a long time

minor sage
#

who gave it to you

#

names right now

misty mason
#

Probably stan

coral smelt
#

Exhilious is typing

north sedge
#

Stan just bugs us for builds whenever something changes

minor sage
#

ok let's see the build lmao

ornate bone
#

If memory doesn't fail me, with 2 toughness curios, 1 health and bleed for the emperor you get around 25% health from a crusher overhead

coral smelt
#

i run 2 wound and 1 hp on curios

reef pewter
#

toughness damage reduction probably also plays a role but idk how much of one

#

I've also tried that one skill on Zealot that reduces damage by 40% if it takes you to the next wound, and it didnt feel like it affected those overheads

#

ironically also a martyr build as suggested

coral smelt
#

why would you not have wound curio with martyr

reef pewter
#

I never said I didnt, and I did have them

ornate bone
#

Well, getting 2 wounds below is pretty nice

reef pewter
#

oh you're talking about the guys build he posted

#

yeah wtf lmao

#

just grab passives further up the tree if you're not gonna build your keystone

#

imo

minor sage
#

tbh the build is fine

#

lol

coral smelt
#

i was told using bleed for the emperor can make you survive big hits

ripe quest
minor sage
#

it's a defensive martyr build

#

probably skissue

#

is my diagnosis

rigid trellis
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my martyrdom zealot with all wounds gets sent to 1 hp from a crusher over head at max hp and toughness

reef pewter
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oh wait I misread the curios he said 2 wound curios

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my bad

coral smelt
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yeah so it doesnt make you survive crusher/mauler overhead?

reef pewter
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idk but the damage reduction when going to the next wound didnt feel like it helped me tbh, but idk the math of it, I've just felt better results stacking max health and toughness

rigid trellis
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maybe mauler but definitely not crusher

reef pewter
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my Psyker with 150ish toughness and 250ish health can tank overheads from both maylers and crushers with decent health remaining by the standards of those hits

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maybe 2 thirds but pretty sure it's only just over half my health

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didnt feel that way with my martyr Zealot

coral smelt
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k so it was just misinformation

reef pewter
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idk the math of it, might be some funkyshark coding, but that's how it feels to me

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that build will most certainly give you high survivability dont get it wrong, but maybe not specifically for that reason

fading vale
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you should definitely be able to tank at least 1 overhead on marty

reef pewter
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ye

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maybe not in the highest capacity, but you certainly can

coral smelt
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certainly didnt feel that way after getting popped three times

minor sage
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were you full health?

coral smelt
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no i had 80% against a mauler

reef pewter
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that sounds in line with my experience

minor sage
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well the overhead should leave you with about 20-25% health iirc

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so that seems about right

reef pewter
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never felt like I was above 20% health after an overhead with martyr

coral smelt
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yeah but i thought this build makes me tankeir

minor sage
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it does

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but being tanky doesnt mean dumbass proof

ripe quest
fading vale
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Marty makes it basically impossible to die, but I mean overheads are overheads

ripe quest
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I recall them being stupidly easy to tank

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mrw game is punishing what the heck

fading vale
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you could also drop SOC for restoring faith