#zealot-class
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yeah its at the right tree
Especially when Vet has Powersword, Dclaw, and Chainsword.
supposed to be the ranged dmg sacrifice according to your statement
probably better than the sapper shovel tho
I think even BM Caxe outpaces it by a lot
yes because you cant avoid ranged damage on vet, but building melee does net you less ranged damage overall than building purely for ranged
Don't have to build for melee either way
I haven't checked on it in a while but last I checked on that it was a bit
with crowds yeah.
but u can avoid range dmg
if you're talking about marksman focus, you dont need it unless you're on an burst fire weapon
just get out the way
its the only thing that you lose by going right side
If you swap Infested that'll be a god roll when Overpressure gets fixed.
and you dont even need to go right side to be a competent melee vet either
psword exists
it's on literally every path. if you didnt grab any, you'd have left over points
vet has access to dclaw too
psword mobility is pain without the stacks of ws
oh zzz u mean nodes
it's tolerable above 70
OP is broken?
no I dont, I mean passives
it is, but even then, unless you're solo, it wont bother you
ah yeah, right
and you can also bash while activating the weapon which is the only moment you're not cleaving everything in your screen
tf else are you spending poitns on
It only buffs the direct damage that does like 30 a tick right now. The burn damage is 95% of the DPS you get from Flamer and OP doesn't affect it.
It should be getting fixed at some point though
that's what I'm saying. if you dont grab anything that benefits your ranged capabilities, youmll have leftover points
you can do a shit ton of ranged dmg on zealot too
i just failed a very long and drawn out clutch on zealot cuz i was running the mission and didnt realize i had some random ass bolter on in my inventory instead of my revolver from me fucking around in the psykanium last night
and i didnt even get to see what my team said or say i fucked up my loadout cuz chat was broken despite being my first mission since opening the game
yes, but just like inverse of vet, zealot cant avoid melee skills
1 step closer to just running white items because it's more fun. I believe in your character arc Cole

idk how anyone can stand the bolter in general
white items does sound fun
shit is so fucking aids to use
bolter is fun, just not for everyone
It's got 1 niche still and it's annoying to use with Zealot's kit to top it off.
it's like a heavy revolver
Revolver does more per shot
why yes i would like to shoot that trapper in approximately 3-5 business days, thank you
on zealot, i just use it purely to open bulwakrs legs. other than that, im pulling the throwing knives for everything else
im even running cavalcade and shattering impact
and now the auric maelstrom i was doing is gone
with less ammo per mag and firerate
the shattering nerf was just not necessary, hopefully it was unintended
it was the scab only blessed monsterous maelstrom
Laz I implore you to check what has been said for the past 30 minutes it's been entertaining.
so is this new Thammer worth the grind?
and i really wanna do that again but its gone 
fuckin sofa sharks
I think I just ran that a while back
On my psyker but it was enhanced blitz as well
It goes like 15 minutes before that lol
Sofa Sharks are the leading cause of booty bites on sofas
god
dont read it
btw
fatshark is honestly incredible at making bait
yeah that one
the first carnival map
Yeah
its incredibly either ultra based or absolutely bad takes
Rev can do like twice the damage per shot. Easier to hit better BPs with it and the added cleave on the Zarona is fun.
i cant tell
The number of late night (american timezones) thammer users I see not powering up their thammers on mutants or whatever need to be purged
Trim em down
They are misusing a weapon of war
Our vet got blown up by 5 bursters but because my vet shouted and had IW he took nothing
It did nothing to him
I dream of a day when I don't get my inputs eaten during important shit
revolver is like, remarkably overpowered, and bolter is just very mid on zealot, it's great on vet though
think it like this: they chose to play with white weapons but forgot they had orange weapons slotted so instead they chose to not power up their weapons
but it can hit 3-4x the amount of targets, meaning you can instantly kill whatever specialist you want from anywhere with 1 bullet as long as theres not a bulwark or crusher in the way

me aiming down sights on a pox bursters thinking i swapped to melee weapon 
Yummy edible rat
Tanner said the revolver is super balanced and fine 
I only use bolter with the hsword for my setups (that being crusher and hsword) since hsword can handle a lot but not bulwark shields
who tf is tanner
Vicious Slice was their magnum opus
Tanner deez nutz in the sun
should i have flak or unyelding on this guy?
there is one thing the revolver does not have, the possibilty to magdump, kill stuff and stagger the rest leaving you enough time to think about what to do next
I enjoy it a bit with weapons that don't handle Crushers or Bulwarks super well. It's worse than Revolver a good bit but it can be fine.
A youtuber guy with a lot of trust in revolver not being overpowered
agrip 
nonono
revolver is bad! low ammo! slow reload!
it doesnt need a nerf! it already got nerfed not too long ago too!
Also SI still like, cuts the number of shots used on Crushers in half still so that is quite niche
A youtuber begging people to hate them
brauto?
You should've seen the exchange
lmao agrip revolver
Wait he has a discord account? Dude I love that guy he's so goofy.
Unyeilding
the new guy that has already been forgotten
SKAVEN
every person that ever says shit like this is bottom of the scoreboard with competent players
Puri and I were saying revolver needed a nerf, Tanner jumped in with enough confidence that he outright said that if someone played with him and his premades while they used grey guns and the revolver person didn't bottom frag, he'd pay 20 bucks to the person
Jesus I just realized I didn't sleep all night is is 6am
them 5 fives make me DJSKJDAKJSLW
And then people started going "lmao ez"
fuckin franch
SLEEP
I can't
does.... does he think revolver is the main weapon used...?
Just got my 5th coffee
is cavalcade worth it on bolter?
Not exactly those words, but they said it was easy
And then Tanner upped it to a bet
LUNA
50 bucks each, 100 to the winner
TO THE MOON NOW
NO
snarls
Then never came back 
Did you just fucking snarl
wdym easy
Yes
i pair it with si because im not aiming down sights to kill shit, only magdump on elites packs. but if you plan on taking elites and specials from afar, there might be better options
It's a bit eh but it's all the hipfire has to combo with the high finesse mod.
Yeah
That it would be easy to not bottom frag with the revolver
Tanner was like "well if it's sooooo overpowered then play with me and don't bottom frag"
so the play is cavalcade + pinning or si?
Bruh
I wouldn't wanna waste time playing with a brick wall
I lie though, Tanner did come back eventually
i think that pinning might be better for elite packs
I'd say so
i have si locked so i dont mind
The best bet rn is probs Surgical + Pinning. Playing into it's strengths it'll be like PF + SI/Caval.
oh
well that just depends on the player and their other weapon then, since the revolver is the problem solver, and you dont always have a problem
Oh that's not si as in the Spanish word
Minutes after the bet a person already said they were logging in, but I guess Tanner didn't hear that one
wat
so youre using your melee a lot
That's shattering impact
si
and tuck you in
you cant lose an argument if you pretend the person youre arguing against isnt even real
Shower arguments
The Tanner fella talked big, made a big bet, someone took the bet and Tanner evaporated, then came back to say "no one talked to me, I'm blocking all of you"
That's someone else's job
shows a competent argument
blocks the person
It was like
i would take that bet honestly
So fucking funny
the lack of bolter right now means there is not always someone with the capability of taking care of a pack of crushers
funniest shit ever
even with my shitty part time income, cuz theres no risk
Well if they don't do then I'll do it then hover above you to ensure you get the proper rest you need
thats just free money
That's scary
Later
tadpole
I swear
I'm confident in my revolver shenanigans enough to not bottom frag, but the whole "play with me and my premade team" reeked of "I'm going to make up an excuse when you win the bet"
Frog what
stoopid
Bruh the majority of the good weapons all delete crushers unless people are just ass at the game
that's my problem
@calm salmon I want you to know this is like the coolest crossover event I've ever seen. Infinity War levels of awesome.
Franch. Frog. Frognch idk
in pubs, it's always a throw of dice
Darktide discord got a new villain or something?
New villian of the week
Wiiiiild
Or say old
He's the youtuber that made that tier list
I'ma be real
is pretty cool
tbh i will say that revolver does take a bit of getting used to, it has a very different usage than most other weapons
also luna
I'd have a heart attack if Darcy, Puri, and Tanner got together for a conversation about the meta.
No
its so crazy
As high as i am reading this
have you eaten
Rat the answer is no
No
a rat
disgusting
you all forget about mastodon
Tanner wants to be the villain
ITS 6AM
thats perfect eating time
not in the fact that its hard to make use of, but its actual use of being a problem annihilator isnt readily apparent without playing with it for a bit
really hard to get used to the easiest aim weapon with instant pullout that 1 shots multiple of everything except ogryns with 0 effort
Mastodon was funny, telling me i simply wasn't good enough to observe enemies flying off the ground because of lag
im talking about realizing how youre supposed to use it in terms of general gameplay
I'll have coffee and 1 donut
good then sleep
mrw Fatshark adds a gun that is essentially if Hsword had a rending blessing + Deathblow and became a ranged weapon
I'm sorry to tell you that you simply can't perceive
Otherwise my squeakas and I are busting into your room
Omg rar
and having a rat party
that's not a british breakfast
that's abhuman talking
or so i heard
i think youre giving people too much credit in terms of actually thinking about what they should be using their weapons for lazorr lmao
I CANT FIND ANY
I ate em
B-tier revolver
And I don't feel like leaving the house
Darci is back?
Most of the list okay I guess, but holy shit, B-tier revolver
Who would win, a party of rat squeakas or one stinky domesticated rodent killer
Helbore in D
Pocket plasma gun is B-tier
That's funny
I realize that half the people that come in here to talk about revolver just say shit like, yeah I melee only and use revolver for hipfire or specials only
and it hurts
Sociopaths hipfire the revolver
what
you mean ignoring the armor capabilities?
you don't uise the revolver to horde clear???
We got magic on our side
Mk 3 helbore higher than 1 and 2
ignoring that it absolutely deletes specials
elites
I mean
oh yeah
you can do without handcannon if you crit everytime
Yooo I love using revolver as if it were throwing knives with more ammo
it's only slower on crushers
i guess i just dont think about it in conversation cuz if i see 10 shotgunners within chastise range, i am doing just that to kill them all in 3-4 parries lmao
Revolver for elites specials and that annoying ass trash shooter
best part of the revolver is you can apply surgical and cannon to throwing knives
I brought my melee and i plan on using it as much as possible
Tbf i think headhunters are massively underrated even if you have to slap on maniac perk
Machine
I might be misremembering
Beep bop boop
theres always the ONE shooter you take out with the revolver
every mission
range is a non factor
he just deserves it that much
I fucking hope I am
he plays in some shit like t3
That's an odd one when Graia Brauto exists.
nah t5 AM
A vraks 3 with headhunter deadly accurate is a fucking beast
aint no way
Revolver just has such nice penetration tho
someone with such a shit take like this plays auric
vraks headhunters are strong yes
I have a very good one on vet but it has surgi but it's thankfully has no used slots because I got lucky as shit with the perks
Maniflak and the DA
i should run hh with blazing node right?
hold on
i made a comment on a reddit thread earlier talking about shooting crushers with autoguns and i mentioned this as an effective exception
lets see if someone has told me im stupid cuz autogun on carapace bad
i'm trying to get thrust blessing for hammer and ive gotten momentum level 3 14 out of 16 times
thats it
i thought i saw it all
that's the pain
combat shotguns need huge buff guys
We are dying here
thrust is one of the hardest blessings to roll for whatever reason
guys it takes 10% of my ammo to deal 62 damage
thats A tier right there, cant get much better than that
yeah kantrael slug must be able to go through walls
i'm about to fucking punch myself in the stomach its so infuriating lol
the infinite cleave is not enough
almost everyone trying to craft a thammer has to gone through that
Funny you should say that
I'd also like to bring up that he put Graia IAG at A tier and Columnus IAG at C tier showing he did not research the weapons beyond how they feel.
this a good knife for speed build ?
I honestly forgot tanner is in here
Kantrael fire shot used to go through walls infinitely, lol
no
It's not a good knife.
y tho
not gonna lie
with the game i just had when i was accidentally running the bolter
i agree with this (i failed the mission solely due to my lack of familiarity with the weapon and i am still salty and thats the only deciding factor on my opinion)
you don't need stam and sprint eff on you knife
both blessings are bad and both perks are bad
You're looking for damage perks, something like Flak + Cara/Unyielding/Elites, and Uncanny + Precog/Riposte.
i do hope he made this tier list after they not being able to do that anymore
for a speedrun build?????
Executor works as an alt for Precog
Not even the one good recon las ffs
executor is easier on the 6
I mean, if all you want is to speed run that knife will let you speedrun.
gift from Big E, not sure if I want to keep or not
from my experience
And by good i mean least worst
wth is a speedrun build
It's just not like, a good knife
sex
sex
sex
like, pacifist run ahead?
Vid is the “good” recon
that's fucking good
I pray it's for duos but who knows.
scavenge only and run yes
scav and obj only
kill only whats needed
uh
swap that infested to flak or something and the savage sweep can be either that, wrath or shred up to you
everyone will hate you for contributing nothing
you could either change both perks and keep blessings as a generalist build
or keep elite dmg and change savage sweep to shred for a crit build, and swap back to savage sweep at any time
Well it lost that a long time ago
Swap Infested to Flak and just vibe with that. Keep the 2nd mod for future proofing.
how are claws these days?
Good
then give us back. our messiah has spoken
you don't do 7 minute runs in a pub, if you are trying to stealth solo or duo and kill nothing then fine
if youre doing that kinda stuff premade, i have the knife build and skill tree for that
just never do it in a public game
everyone will hate you
oh idgaf lol
but fr tho whats a good weapon with knife
you just become a liability, fuck up spawns, contribute nothing, and die alone
I don't like sand
it also wont be a speedrun cuz youre only as fast as your slowest team member
^
Really good crowd damage if you hit heads, it starts to fall off a bit on Flak and Unyielding, and moreso on Cara. The parry offers a lot of utility.
i mean no lol, idk who youve played with
can we not talk about irl in this chat plz, I feel called out
trust me, ive speedrun farmed before
it only works when everyone else in your team is
yes
oh classics pub knife zealots who run ahead, die somewhere (or grabbed by dog/trapper) and then instaleave
but if i really want to i get them killed so its a nonissue /shrug
a loner knife zealot who kills stuff? impossible
your team doesnt count tho
(incoming I only play auric maelstrom and carry every game comment)
no but good job assuming
lol
A Kant shotgun or a Flamer. I assume you like weapons with a fast pullout so a Kant will be nice, it'll handle Bulwarks and crowds.
you cant say that
I don't have a superiority complex I'm just that good 
so true
I miss Stan
knifes are kinda lame, though, i learned that with the help of my french friends
stanner
S for spanish
Stan is still here
lessgo
i don't speedrun, i am just too fast
josho is a bad influence
is he?
Nuh uh it needs buffs
he is corrupting zealot chat
i cant imagine in what type of context this is not weird
after playing crusher for a while then moving to piety parry dclaw
thats what i feel like without a "no u" button on demand with dclaw
I'm seeing a distinct lack of drip.
I wonder what Stan ate while we were talking
mayo chicken
cold saltless fries haunts me
orc homemade shotgun
WHAT

despite how much i love crusher and the bonks
i dont think i can give up parries to go back
i can no longer function without a parry
is that really chicken bathed in mayo??
my 2 loadouts as zealot are: piety dclaw and crusher momentum
it's the drippings from the amount of mayo that covered the chicken
a meal only an ogryn would love

literally me
thats the exact same thing i got
but i run boltor on my dlcaw 😔
this is how much i hate bulwarks
My two loadouts atm are crusher and hsword oriented
Bulwarks are probably the best designed enemy in this game
Kinda just vibing with those
i just parry them and charge instantly after, i get the parry damage and it pushes them back too
I have to mod my game to contain my builds
wow
my 3rd one was a martyrdom chain axe that i was trying to cook but didnt go well. im not a fan of martyrdom
Stan knows how to make me sweat
man I want a snack, oh I know, how about SALTINES AND KETCHUP
was there ever an official crusher skin released in the shop?
Yes
thats still acceptable
Part of a set
a long time ago
i keep seeing screenshots from this server
what even is it, seems like just a seperate server comprised of zealot chat residents (terminal condition)
when your noodles are too hot
ec40 i think
all the cool bois are there
what does it look like?
Oh also this one, you would not believe what gun this is
ayo /spoiler that shit man
it's basically OG zealot server
a flamer?
suffer as I have
Uhhh joshos guide may have a screenshot of it?
I don't have the heart to tell you that is a Boltgun
isn't that just bacon?
not bad looking, hopefully it's not 1400 aquila for a single skin, cause that would be crazy... right?
Dude rare bacon goes hard
except without the cooked part
it's in the pan still tho
No he didn't, columnus is S
yeah but uh, he only cooked it for 1 or 2 more minutes, that's how he likes bacon
Uhhh no it was with gold disco pants outfit, was normal outfit price for the outfit plus crusher and autopistol skin
i wouldnt be surprise if he's s were meant to be as ASS down bad
Oh yeah you're right, dyslexia made me think the BAG was an IAG
Orange juice cereal anyone?
Lastly an actually good looking skin
YOU'RE MAKING ME ANGERY
YOU TOO
This is Stan's stuff, talk to him :p
What in the god damn
Shotgun barrels for autoguns goes so hard
I had a gym teacher that was trying to be philosophical about cereal and was like, we only put milk in cereal because society, you should try other things like orange juice
Looks like a 2010 weapon
i bet that teacher hugs trees because no one told them to
the only reason gym teachers and philosophical should be in the same sentence is when talking about senility
we had a run
where a pack of crushers spawned
I had my crusher
I was ready
gets trapped, and your teammates fall like flies
i didnt even fucking hear the trapper sound
and next thing i know 5 crushers are on my
silent trappers are pog
trapped ass
anyone using for the drip mod?
This is peak
Looks like something you'd see from destiny
lmao
Or borderlands
does it impact perfs?
Got I didn't even know there were eye holed
Looks so goofy now
i took quite a hit with the weapon custom mod
a crusher using a crusher
lmao i didnt even realize until you said it
now it looks goofy for me too
Why emperor
Watermelon mustard
Id shit myself if i saw this coming towards me in game
you guys don't have a Stan's Food folder?
A bulwark crusher hybrid?
Volvo is braindead
simple az
thankfully im not awake when stan is around
Carapace boss w/ a shield and a ranged weapon 
It's funny that that sounds annoying on paper and yet it's nearly what the ranged twin is
@hushed knoll You guys should talk
I just rolled the hammer on the right tonight after struggling a while for one, and i just got the drop on the left to mock me
wdym having minimum 1x adms against everything on crit is totally engaging
🙂
5 bullets
does having the scoreboard mod tank performance?
It shouldn't
I know opening the history menu can stutter for a second or two though
Boltgun
revolver should have 6 bullets so I can have Six Shooter on full blast when I play
only agri stubby
if only i could put the boltgun skin on the fanvolver
Best you can get is the Boltpistol
AND SLOW
"Oh man, I suddenly forgot how to ADS" :p
Comedically
yeah i meant boltpistol
you can only use it on boltgun afaik
With some anim changes you could make the boltpistol feel kinda nice slapped onto an Agri revolver
and well, the left hand is still there...
You can edit the files to put it on the revolvers but it's annoying
I'll see if I can get it to work
no, but something like Spidey Sense with all auras turned on tanked it previously
supposed to be fixed already
but the scoreboard mod needs so many mods installed
i already have quite a bunch
worried about memory leaks
memory leaks is something that FS should fix, mods arent at fault here (aside from that one, who store mourning star in your RAM, that could cause issues, Darkcache or something)
i know one game that got its memory leaks fixed 5+ years after release
sigh
that was a disaster
dark cache
The Divison 2 perhaps?
i still get out of memory crashes but not every 2 missions
I know the weapon customization mod can magically make my entire game's framerate drop
it took me 4 to 6 hours without restarting the client to get a memory leak crash (32gb ram)
It's so good, but so fucking unstable sometimes
I really wish we had a scope-only version
I usually will end up with lag after prolonged playing but I also just restart my game when that happens
I mean, if I cared enough I could learn how to do that stuff and probably just delete 90% of the mod's code or something
best way is to alt+f4 when dying so that you can resurrect and purge the memory at the same time
There's that guy that added more options on a plugin, surely a plugin that removes all but the sight options is doable
pro tip
extended
So my config file isn't filled with lines like this

I heard from my teacher that Bootstrap has a minified version specifically so the computer reads a single line and no spaces or line breaks
Wonder if it wouldn't be something that could be done for this config file
this motherfucker opening config files in wordpad
but wordpad???????
i open config files in paint 3d
I'm gonna get snowed in and idk if I have enough food, but it's fine
sounds like a job for flesh tearer lacerate
If Steve starves because you didn't fatten your corpse up for him
who is steve and can I have him?
i love steve
comfy steve
comically large bonk
I wanna put ketchup on him
perfect steve
fear not steve. you will have plenty of food
❤️
Lazzor you must feed him your arms if you run out of catfood
he usually doesn't get under the covers but I guess this one let enough light through or something
Steve be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycHVUvvOwzY
Maxwell dance and Maxwell spin all in one
I just like the Maxwell the cat meme for the song, and the fact it’s a cat spinning and/or dancing
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I'll just feed him this leftover pork and go without food
if steves laughs, im happy
if steve is joyful, im content
if steves cries, im sad
if steve is mad, im angry
i love steve
the cult of steve
He deserves
refine cuisine
get him a 500 dollar meal thats meant for tasting instead of actually eating to fill yourself up
i think steve should have lazor's meals and lazor should start eating steve's rations instead
I do have tuna but for some reason it's in oil
I love it when my tuna is in oil

I could just paper towel it
reminds me of the 4chan post of the guy stuffing sardines up his ass for a week straight


is D4 good yet
s2 is actually pretty good new endgame activity that is brutally hard
s4 big itemization rework and crafting
I recently played POE and I was just like, wow this is much better and pretty cool but also very tryhard
maybe I'll check out Diablo again next season
isn't there an expansion or something coming
yea late 2024
brand new class
dont know much else
@fading vale I must say the new evis NEEDS shred
if you are in mardyrdom build/momentum(node) build = yes
crit can live with whatever, be it momentum(bless) or something else
I like that left node that gives even more crit for my crit
these 1/6 missions seems impossible 🤣
Man the ai director pisses me off sometimes lol
piss on the director
or let the director piss on you
does atk speed increases dagger special atk?
better yet, are all weapon's special attacks influenced by atk speed?
It is an attack but who knows, code works in fickle ways 
Could be named a diff variable so it ain’t effected
yeah im asking because in this game you can never take anything for granted
i wouldnt be surprised if atack speed in this game didnt actually increased your attacks speed
which isnt the case
what's that
Is the place thats past hadron that lets u test weapons and builds
Y’know the psyker lady in the tube
oh the psychiatrist you mean
the jar
well, 60% of everyone's questions here could be answered there
but no one's young enough to bother here
Which is exactly why I called it a no brainer 
Could ask here for confirmation but I could also test it myself in meat grinder, choices o choices
either i get answered or i'll die without the knowledge
no, i meant drama not as convo
Oh in other situations got ya
Followup, that shit kicked my ass I now have like 68 errors on startup.
Is okay I only speak English and this junk still got me confused a lot of the time 
okay real question
why is everything that involves britleness is regarded so bad here?
take this blessing for example: that's 15% increased damage taken from all sources right? so why it's not considered the best for chain axe?
because others are simply better
Because just killing the thing is faster
this would be good if we had a lot of armored enemies HP sponges
doesn't that mean that if i hit my rev attack, it would take 15% increased damage for the next hits of the chain attack?
britleness doesnt open any new breakpoints?
Nope
well that sucks
Chaxe with the right setup one shots crushers easily
Question, what's the general opinion about MK II Evisc without any cleave buff ?
Liek if i run rampage + shred for example, would it gimp the weapon too much ?
rampage already boost cleave and if you are running critbuild, you get additional bonus from crit (at least it was like that in vermintide)
saveable
Nice, and without crit ?
Yeah i see
I'll try with momentum first to see if it works without an eventual crit buff
its technically should be ok if there's no maulers there
perfect for me
It's niche but not bad for Boltgun, that's kinda it. Usually what happens is it doesn't do much for the weapon, like in Chaxe's case, and/or it doesn't match up with other blessings which outclass it. Thunderous is 16 stacks of 2.5% so it's up to 40% brittle. It's nice on talents like in Vet's case, but he can also stack like 60% brittle with the crit brittle talent in addition to a normal brittle blessing/onslaught.
wait 1 stack of brittleness is only 2.5% damage taken?
oh you mean onslaught
yeah makes sense. but for a blessing, i dont think it makes sense that it is less than a passive/node
Vet wants it on a fast firing gun anyway
Rather than bolter
Columnus IAG is the main beneficiary
Onslaught uses the same debuff as Thunderous.
Thunderous applies 2.5% per stack.
Graia Brauto 
These are the two brittle debuffs
being talked about here anyway
The on crit brittle is the debuff_medium, Onslaught and Thunderous both use the normal one.
It's been this way since like, ever
40% brittle isn't the worst thing, only nerf it's had lately is that it went from 2 hits for max stacks to 4 with Thunderous.
Made Boltgun's usage of it (tied with the ADM changes that made rending less intense) focused on Carapace.
Everything else is gonna get like 10% rend and then die
and bosses get like, 10% extra damage with the full debuff up
What could be a good alternative then
Pinning Fire, because it's a finesse weapon Caval or Surgical
give recons brittle blessing ez
Caval ? eh why not 
It's still fine for it's OG niche but it just doesn't have old PF.
can opener is still old version but with new rending mechanics. Wonder if giving that to bolter would help
The buffs it got to the base weapon make it pretty solid.
2 crushers per magazine seems okay
until you evaluate it against the new ogryn spawn counts
Its not even really revolver for me
EVERYTHING is better than bolter
even with vets "lol begone th0t" build
If not statistically better, they outright feel better to use.
For Crushers and Bulwarks you need Fury or a rending/brittle buff to compete.
Revolver and some Vet builds afaik can do that.
Boltgun has actually pretty ok damage but it's super hinging off of it being used like a DMR
Damn the crit damage hurt
Surgical just gives it so much damage
I like to magdump so it'll be cavalcade for me lmao
imo what they should do is make the current variant far less of a finesse weapon, maybe like special outlier where the only finesse it can get is critting. Then increase the damage but equally reduce ADMs a bit, just enough to make SI impactful on it.
They can make a new variant that really likes being a DMR but the current one feels weird like it is rn
There's a couple ideas that would play out into making it a better fit for being a Boltgun and making it a bit more viable. It being a fine weapon if you ignore the hipfire is dumb when the hipfire is a cool mechanic and all.
fr its ridiculous
I wouldn't mind it having a slower switch speed if it actually packed a decent punch in a pinch. Before the PF nerf it was a patrol wipe at the cost of a 1.5 second pullout.
I think it's similar to Flamer's pullout but that's an actually good weapon.
Pull out game strong
I wish we had some sort of crossbow in this game
Caval is better on zealot cos Surg doesnt quite get u to BPs
Would be sick
And u have dance of death
On zeal the hipfire is actually ok cos u can consistently headshot with it
On vet its kinda useless ye
i love hipfire on zeal it can tear down a crusher in ~10-12 shots and can tear through a hoarde pretty nice
After some testing i'll stick with the brittleness, i already use my bolter mostly for crushers anyway
Just put this together, what builds are good with these things?
I have a really strong build with this if you want
let me just start my game to show it
Lay it on me.
Also can't believe someone made a whole ass guide for one weapon.
Vetchat could never.

It's my fav weapon for scab faction melee only
I think bolt is fine. It's what plasma and revolver should be in terms of drawbacks for the power they bring imo. Either that or having their dmg nerfed so it doesn't outpace bolt with ease. The only changes I'd do for bolt would be increase its max ammo capacity to 90~100
- Showstopper flamer
vet also has all of zero weapons that are even close enough to complex to need one.
The closest contender is plasma gun
and explaining in plain detail why light attacks/50% charge attacks are the correct course of action.
Does this just say "the push attack is a beaut"
I love this build, i don't even need to try to demolish auric maelstrom
I think the push attack is great against maniacs tbh
The push attack is amazing against anything with a head
is this okay

Tbh you bought it bricked lol
you can replace 6% with Flak and Salvo with Dumdum
and kinda used it
but well buying blue items
goes like this
I wouldn't have bought that from the shop with what was on it originally
I may have a little tendency towards gambling
you see, I only would have needed to get lucky on the new blessing and perk and it could have been great
yeah, but I could have gotten lucky
(I am aware this is unrealistic)
maybe its time to switch to crusher... thoughts on the flamer vs. other ranged options?
I think kant shotty is the superior flamer
With the game gearing towards low ttk these days I feel the niche for flamer has really fallen out of place.
Able to have similar horde destruction roll, while also sniping specials and being quickdraw able to capatalize on crusher staggers
Meta-wise, not the greatest, but very satisfying when you do just get to melt an avalanche of enemies trying to get through a chokepoint
just pair it with a thunderhammer and you have one of the most situational builds possible
That's my TH loadout
Flamer is good.
works well enough
Might want to grab blades of faith with it
I know, I ran that loadout for a good while too
eventually did switch out the flamer for a laspistol, as I got fed up with the people on my team with actual ranged weapons refusing to deal with snipers
i'd rather have either stun or fire nades it helps a lot with th
need that utility
And also now you can actually move
I just always pair th with a pistol for the vwooms
That's what the flamer for
too slow to my liking for certain things
i'd rather pop nade and clap things with th
faster to pull out too needs less setup
imagine not popping stealth just to equip your flamer
Then what's the point of bringing the flamer? TH and flamer is such a weird combo to me.
which outfit matches better with the boltgun?
unique weapon for zealot is my primary motivation
I'd say second
anything works at any level so might aswell run the cool stuff
Flamers shoot hot stuff though
I do have to admit, every time I don't run a thunder hammer I miss being able to delete bosses, as I watch the psyker run half the map away from the rest of the team with a chaos spawn on his ass
Or watch the Ogryn try to hug the daemon host because it looks sad
I like looking at the psyker run for his life against a boss
I hate having 3 dodges and walking slowly but I understand what you mean
yes, but I wish he'd run towards me so I can purge the thing
they're all so powerless most of the time, unless it's a gunker with colomnus
then it's the boss running away
one day fatshark will make brainburst good
you'll see
I mean
Flamer is VERY good at killing bosses
cut to assail bubble psyker with a purgatus staff facing down a beast of nurgle in a hallway
I know, which is why I miss the thunderhammer flamer loadout every time I see a boss

I do wish he could try and throw his dinky little knives from inside its belly as it takes him to the nearest assembly of shotgunners
zealot doesn't have acess to recon lasgun right
right
but psyker does
correct
why can't we play with one of the shittiest ranged option but they can
I unironically run recon on most of my gunpsyker builds
Discount flamer with Infernus?
hard to say
I think most are decent
P much
maybe an autogun sucks idk
poorly rolled autopistol is awful
Agri Headhunter
like super awful
I'd been considering trying that whenever I get to grind out some more weapons on the psyker
I actually forgot autopistols are in the game half the time
Graia big good
i wouldn't know
It's a good gun but there's a problem
Columnus is currently bugged
And it uses graia damage profile
so graia is kinda left in the dust
Because if it isn't like perfectly rolled, its going to fall short on doing what it wants to do
It's not too shabby seeing as the armor classes it suffers from can be dealt with rupture
How is the Garia Brauto these days?
idk
You can meme harder with it by taking flayer, instant rupture on a 10s cooldown
I kind of wish flayer had a shorter cooldown or could only trigger on elites
There have been too many times where I was fighting maulers in a horde only for flayer to go off on a random poxwalker
that's a huge caveat for sure, but if you want to make that perk work Recons' probably one of the best guns to take advantage of it
new gamemode: use creature spawner to spawn a rager in the psykhanium and kill it with only punches
Why would you do that to yourself
Shovel Mk3 punch go brrr
there's 4 windows in the rager combo you can reliably punch and not get hit so long as you block immediately after
1 before he enters the combo, 2 when both weapons finish their side swings and end up behind him and 1 when he finishes all of his side swings and stops before overheading
Or you can just push them...they become puppies...I never Tried before probably cause I was scared by them,it happened casually tbh and after I knew ,it's ez
what are mk3 and 6 combat knife differences?
Mk3 is overhead heavy to stab big guys. Mk6 is Vanguard heavy for hordes
I'm not sure how the overkill mechanic works, how is the overkill damage higher than the actual damage
its works exactly as it sounds
basically useless damage value, but its fun to look at it sometimes
swing does 100hp, enemy has 20hp, swing for 20 damage + 80 overkill damage
that's my understanding anyway
don't think it shows much performance wise
it does not taken into account when your final damage(overall) is calculated
so its just there to be seen
Yes
All this talk about overkill damage makes me wonder...
Can a knife get more overkill damage than damage dealt to enemies? >.>
Just how stupid would you have to build the knife to get psyker or thammer levels of overkill damage?

I mean can you imagine the looks on people's faces if they saw you were getting large amount of overkill damage on weapons that don't normally get much? It wouldn't affect a lot of players, but, the few that saw it would be confused af
why would you run both
dude is cleaving thru the map itself
but only ever scratch the surface

ugh ice is falling from the sky
I got to unbury our car last night from snow >.>
Couldn't even get into the car to get the ice scrapers
there's a giant winter storm across the US right now
I had to use a broom and shovel to get what I got done. x.x
might get 6 inches where I live and it never snows here
So... Kill the squirrels, and lubricate the sides of the vehicle with their or- oh, that makes more sense

roads around me are definitely gonna be closed pog
For some reason I thought they meant literally defrost the vehicles with the forest critters...

just get trapped on the top of your car
a bomber will certainly immediately throw a nade
yer unnastannin is kerek
bricked?

You mean every time you get trapped, once you git gud?
i said a couple
installed yesterday
Same, just a hour or two... you know?
they wer lvl 23-25 ish and i were basically flyin thru everything
speedrun da malice for contracts
love the turtle sword for it
what swaps should I make on this?
Flak is a good one for a heavy swords
check if you oneshot naked dregs ragers and mutants with strikedown heavy (if VII has one)
7's 2nd heavy is a downwards attack iirc
I think both heavies are the "strikedown" type, though, like the mk 6
tldr if he can oneshot those two with one hit, +25% maniacs arent needed
but if not and that will help to reach BP, i would go for it
The mk 6 does the same damage with both heavies, iirc. Idk about the mk 7.
Iirc isnt the main difference just attack pattern








