zealot-class

[still quartz]

Classic Pringles best

[fiery ingot]

but it needs almost god roll for both stats and perks for that

[frozen glen]

actual potato chips

[still quartz]

If the Psykers in my team is already clearing the horde I'll just sit and watch with my Pringles

[native cargo]

classic pringles hmmm

[still quartz]

Yeah that makes a lot of sense xd

Woops wrong Reply

Yeah that makes a lot of sense

[native cargo]

what is a potato in chip form

[copper hawk]

uh oh

discord tea

[ripe quest]

When you fan the hammer you have colossally worse per shot damage. This tied with it not having any elite cleave makes it worse for it.

[frozen glen]

fried potato slices

[ornate bone]

lacerate zealots

[still quartz]

So you call these things chips instead of crispity crunchity knick-knacky queen's jubly dubly delights?

[native cargo]

go back to BED GAY CAT

[copper hawk]

i can't

gay cat must work

[native cargo]

damn

[copper hawk]

must arbeit

[native cargo]

rip the gay cat

[copper hawk]

for another 8 hours

i will despair

to the military funded daycare !

[ornate bone]

gay cat is making free

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/qta0u9

[native cargo]

military funded day care wait wuh

they training children there?

if so cool

[copper hawk]

noh

[still quartz]

ALright guys

[copper hawk]

ur STIPID

ur SILLY IN DUH HEAD

[native cargo]

nuh

uh

[copper hawk]

and datz y

[fiery ingot]

lmao

[still quartz]

I'm gonna perform a social experiment

[native cargo]

I am not stoopid

I am smort

[copper hawk]

RATZ will alwayz be eaten by CATZ

[still quartz]

Time to say the absolute hottest take in this chat

[copper hawk]

ur sitmky. ur brain MOLDY

[ripe quest]

you killed more with knives than the revolver

[copper hawk]

!!!

[fiery ingot]

starts fanning
fuck this shit im pulling my knives

[light holly]

😌

[native cargo]

RATZ BETTER THAN CATS

[still quartz]

And see how hard I can get fuckin verbally destroyed

[light holly]

Oh

[native cargo]

CUS WE

[light holly]

That's pretty good

[native cargo]

NOT SMELLY

[fading vale]

man that maniac perk sure helped your throwing knives

[drowsy steppe]

Oh no it's Cica

[native cargo]

WE CLEAN AND OUTSMART THEE

[royal vortex]

TRUE

[light holly]

wait that's pretty bad

🥹

[still quartz]

Ahem

This game's actually pretty decent

🍿

[royal vortex]

the tknives BPs are real

[native cargo]

Cica gonna be covered in soot after they fall for the same bomb trap again

[light holly]

ACHTUALLY 🤓

[fiery ingot]

does knives benefits from blessings and perks on the weapon you're holding?

[royal vortex]

yup

[light holly]

Woah

[fading vale]

did knives 1 shot ragers pre nerf

[fiery ingot]

oh damn

[light holly]

That's crazy

[native cargo]

What if like

[royal vortex]

a brauto with 3 stacks of deathspitter + flak/maniac will 1 shot both rager types with a tknive headshot (with anoint ofc)

with just +maniac itll 1 tap a dreg rager to the head

[fiery ingot]

throwing knives with uncanny must go hard

[ripe quest]

Real Agri strat imo is Surgical + Hand-Cannon cuz then it's only a slightly worse damage profile, no cleave, more ammo, and faster reload instead of way worse damage, no cleave, etc.

[native cargo]

I threw a knife and have a bunch of impact stacks will it knock over a crusher into the abyss

[royal vortex]

i think not

[royal vortex]

oh dude

https://streamable.com/qzijg3

[ripe quest]

Ah the days of Assail with Hand-Cannon.

[fiery ingot]

HOLY SHIT

WTF

[ornate bone]

I think the people who use trickshooter on the agri revolver saw that video of the guy 5-shotting the boss and thought they were going to do that to every enemy

[fiery ingot]

bro thats crazy

[frozen glen]

we love the hc bug

[royal vortex]

ive watched telopots play w/ a trickshooter agri revolver and he almost never has more than 2 stacks

[light holly]

[royal vortex]

literally never seen 4+

[ornate bone]

It's like having a revolver with less accuracy somehow made them more open to the idea of using a perk that relies on you getting sequential headshots

[native cargo]

The only awy to know you are sweating using throwing knives is by outpacing the vets shooting all the elites

[fading vale]

trickshooter stacking is horrible

[native cargo]

killing them before their bullets get there

[ornate bone]

Like what the fuck

If anything, zarona is the revolver they want for trickshooter

[royal vortex]

that's with surgical, hand cannon, +20% carapace, and a duellist proc

btw

[fiery ingot]

or sniping the sniper

[ornate bone]

Because at least that thing has pinpoint accuracy on spamming shots

[ripe quest]

Even then it's not great

[royal vortex]

oh and annoint

[ornate bone]

Yeah, it fucking sucks

[fading vale]

except it's basically impossible to stack

[ornate bone]

Nobody liked trickshooter then and nobody should like trickshooter now

[heavy arch]

if im playing marty with invocation and dclaw should i go shred savage sweep or shred rampage

[fading vale]

sometimes I wish I had lights connected to wifi or something, I want to turn this light off but I have a Steve under my arm and I'm laying down and gonna fall asleep

[ripe quest]

put steve over your eyes and sleep

[light holly]

A small price to pay for catto

[fiery ingot]

id go for rampage tbh. but idk how marty dmg works for dclaw

[heavy arch]

we'll find out

!!

[light holly]

Savage sweep rampage is hard to go wrong with

For dclaw

*cough

[heavy arch]

i tried shred rampage with dclaw and marty

not having the extra cleave was noticeable

imma see if the dmg is still ok with just marty

[still quartz]

it really fuckin is xd

My DClaw MK7 is Shred + Rampage

The cleave not being there hurts but that extra Crit do be nice

[fiery ingot]

i still like shred to spam chastise on hordes

[ornate bone]

He wants to sleep before I post my knife scoreboard

[fleet zealot]

you are dead

[fiery ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-18865199

[heavy arch]

bro no one picks up blue

so with dclaw

im even FASTER

[ornate bone]

I have no shame

[heavy arch]

it's heckin awesome

[drowsy steppe]

Let Steve stay

[fiery ingot]

oh god

is that smoke nade

[royal vortex]

blow up

https://tenor.com/view/seal-sea-lion-explode-explosion-scream-gif-25321526

[drowsy steppe]

And suffer in your sleep with the lights on

[ornate bone]

look at his chin tho

[frozen glen]

the problem is it doesnt

[fleet zealot]

gender

[drowsy steppe]

I thought I saw Cica posting again

[light holly]

I think with a chastise build with the crit build you' got crits on the gooo

[still quartz]

Aight yall, help me out

Drip or drown

Gold pants yay or nay?

[light holly]

hence why imo savage might be better for a chastise build

[still quartz]

Trying to figure this out

[heavy arch]

IT'S ASS

[still quartz]

Aight good enough ty

[heavy arch]

oh i mean the thing i just tried

[still quartz]

Damn

[fiery ingot]

yeah its my favorit loadout so far. dclaw with piety is nuts

[still quartz]

I just thought you saw the pants and went "EEEEEWWW DUUUUUUUDEEE...

wHAT THE FU-"

[fiery ingot]

put on the glasses

[still quartz]

Don't got em

[light holly]

s'alright

[still quartz]

My character is always mask

[light holly]

Very rogue-trader esque

[still quartz]

Set is from Rogue Trader set

So it should xd

[light holly]

Not that mask, but it fits well

[still quartz]

Yeah not the mask for sure

[light holly]

No pegleg either

HMM

[still quartz]

It's on the back seat

Thinking of something else for it

[fiery ingot]

BUY THE GLASSES

[still quartz]

I make Frankenstein sets

NO IT'S NOT A MASK

MASK OR NOTHING

Unlike these damn Nurgle Cultists, I practice safety for everyone

[fiery ingot]

its okay

you have nothing to worry about

[light holly]

Practicing safe masking during nurgle cobid I see 😌

[fiery ingot]

the emperor will protect you

TRUST IN THE EMP'RAH

PUT YOUR GRASSES ON

[still quartz]

NOO THE AIR IS TOO GREEN

[spare dome]

ze grasses, zey do nozing

[gray ice]

Hans, get ze flammenwerfer

[visual stream]

Dog hit me with the

[spare talon]

this is what normal chart people think of auric, coming from a normal board monsterous maelstrom

[gray ice]

Auric is damnation +

Putting it on a different mission board really cemented it at some sort of huge jump for people I think

[spare talon]

tbh it kinda is a huge jump

[light holly]

Auric really is just thicc damnation

[spare talon]

at least imo

[light holly]

Like, ah you'll find some Maelstrom Normal Damnations that can get as crazy as some auric maelstrom

[spare talon]

if youre able to handle damnation well, auric can still consistently rock your shit

[light holly]

for sure

[fiery ingot]

man just had a random player get heavily punished for a trapper that was aiming at me, but then i dodged it and it got the player behind me insteadd

and there was a pack of crushers bulwarks and a couple of ragers between me and the trapped player

couldnt save them and they died

thats fucked up man

[light holly]

I will say it's always funny if you're right next to guy and you start freeing them from a trapper net before they hit the ground

[fiery ingot]

wait you can do that?

[spare talon]

the exact moment they get hit with the net is when you can start to untie them

[fiery ingot]

o fml

i could've saved them

im feeling bad now

[rigid trellis]

usually they get pulled away from you while you're doing it though

[fiery ingot]

is it my fault they got netted?

like it was aiming at me

but i dodged it

[spare talon]

yeah you generally can only really do it if the trapper is real close

[placid fiber]

While I didn't know this for sure, it doesn't actually surprise me. I've just never really have gotten a chance to even think about that

[spare talon]

theyll be yanked away too fast for you to even get the chance to if theyre far away

[placid fiber]

You can't fault yourself for making sure you don't get disabled

[fiery ingot]

and the person behind me prob couldnt see the trapper since i was in between them

yeah but its not their fault either

[light holly]

No, I mean you gotta protect yourself, if your teammate is right behind you like

[placid fiber]

It happens, sadly. Just had it where a Trapper shot at another player and I got netted through a horde lol

[light holly]

TECHNICALLY he can't be shooting so he has little reason to be behind you...
Unless he's taller (Ogryn)

[spare talon]

man i wish there was an option to only fill games that are missing a player

[placid fiber]

cause I didn't know where it was shooting, but, I was trying to dodge it

[fiery ingot]

that sucks

[placid fiber]

isn't that what quick play more or less is...?

[fiery ingot]

if it happened to me i would be really pissed

[spare talon]

its happened to me before multiple times

[placid fiber]

I mean it wasn't a hard mission, I just wanted my last 2 books so I could finish my weekly contracts

Even high int shock gauntlet malice is boring, tho...

[light holly]

After realising how fast it is to get people out of a net it's the first priority, even if there's crushers nearby I'd rush for a net save 😌

[spare talon]

yeah but that can still put you in a fresh lobby
i wanna fill in to games where shit has hit the fan and its being flung all over the walls

[placid fiber]

That would be a nice option, for people who wanted to join those games

[gray ice]

He won't leave

[spare talon]

[light holly]

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-review-kitty-review-cat-gato-gif-26186725

[still quartz]

Blessed Emperor, Rampage IV

Now I can slap that onto my actually good one

Nvm remind me to get more Shredder

[gray ice]

Get more shredder

[still quartz]

Thanks

[gray ice]

Anytime

[ornate bone]

the poxburster yesterday when he saw me about to clutch against a beast of Nurgle

[maiden path]

gluglgug i cant breath

drown

chat pull up stinky zealot

hello fatshark please let me make my zealot look like this

fathshark let me self flog for buffs

and deal damage to get my health back

[north sedge]

So martyrdom

[gray ice]

Bwuhhh deadbrain too ez faceroll game

[fiery ingot]

i wish zealots could use shovels tbh

so fucking cool weapons

[maiden path]

no fuck martydom

stupid!

[fiery ingot]

and the bonk sound effect? its just

[maiden path]

self flog should be martydom

!!!

[fiery ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-and-eric-what-confused-absurd-tim-heidecker-gif-18146476

[ornate bone]

I went back to rebinding my dodge and crouch separately because I found out uncrouching ends the dodge earlier

So I had to keep holding the dodge button and it was kind of annoying

Turns out that was helping make the axe and eviscerator a pain in the ass to dodge with

[royal vortex]

i sneezed

[fiery ingot]

is there a thammer guide somewhere?

[copper hawk]

Bless u

SIKE

Urse u

CURSE U !!!!!!

[fiery ingot]

im having difficulties trying to learn how to properly use this weapon

[fading vale]

yeah I tried having them on the same button once and was like wow this is much less freedom

crucis?

[royal vortex]

rude

[north sedge]

I didn't know people were doing that

[fiery ingot]

does it matter really? i thought they were kinda the same except ironhelm has less damage

[royal vortex]

i put my sprint, walk, and crouch buttons all on the same key

singularity

[fading vale]

they are fairly different

[ornate bone]

I absolutely loved having crouch on spacebar for the purpose of sprint sliding easily

But holy shit, it really fucked my dodges

[fading vale]

crucis is the higher skill variant of hammer

and takes some practice

to learn when to use what move and how to manipulate hitboxes

[fiery ingot]

i have crouch on alt and dodge on space so if i want to dodge slide i have to press both keybinds really fast with my thumb

[ornate bone]

I put crouch on alt and just gave up on dodge sliding

[rigid trellis]

ironhelm is like the tutorial on how to use a thammer so you can move onto the crucis

[fiery ingot]

oh, good thing im starting with ironhelm then. because right now it already feels hard enough to effectively deal with multiple threats at once with this weapon

[ornate bone]

And as it turns out

[fading vale]

you need to have a good roll and learn the stagger behavior in general on normals

[ornate bone]

Even with unarmored I can't one-shot the dreg shooters with the new chainaxe

[fading vale]

and you need chastise for staggering multiple things

[ornate bone]

Unless I start stacking headtaker or slaughterer, which ughhhh

[fading vale]

and gun to clear/thin out larger packs

also need to learn the max range for back dodging and landing a special etc

[fiery ingot]

ohh what should i pair with then? i was going for revolver so i could have an easier time learning only how to deal with melee threats

[calm salmon]

Flamer, Throwing Knives, Thammer, TWBS, Momentum, GO!

[fading vale]

it is hard to handle melee elite packs on hammer

[fading vale]

I'd just grab an agri brauto or kant shotty for now

[fiery ingot]

im currently playing true solo rn because its usually how i train before ashaming myself in pubs

[spare dome]

no idsa for this last point

[calm salmon]

the other momentum talent

for 3 stacks on dodge

[fading vale]

also flame nades on hammer

[fiery ingot]

ty

[spare dome]

has it

[fiery ingot]

ohh flame nades? interesting

[fading vale]

no until death?

[vague depot]

The talen that makes you invincible before dying

[spare dome]

but that doesn't help me keel

[vague depot]

Neither does twbs

[spare dome]

it do cause zoom

[vague depot]

It doesn’t

[calm salmon]

well that's just patently wrong

ignoring stagger

I can't

go be wrong

[spare dome]

speed = force = strength 💪

[calm salmon]

Clearly not gonna change your mind

[fading vale]

this is my current hammer build except with backstab CDR

TWBS significantly helps killing

cause you can be more aggressive in more situations

[vague depot]

I only see it working for me when I’m running for my life

[fiery ingot]

think i did pretty much the same thing except i got backstab cdr and holy revenant. i didnt know i was meant to be push attacking too

[vague depot]

Usually either the horde eats the bullets or I just slide spam towards them

[fading vale]

hammer push attack is decent

I would avoid the ironhelm heavy overhead

[prime ridge]

isnt crucius the meta hammer anyway?

[vague depot]

Crucius was better at horde clearing iirc

[fading vale]

crucis is generally the preferred hammer but ironhelm is easier to use and has better horde clear cause the special cleave

[prime ridge]

I mean still not great at horde clearing, but you certainly keep them on the ground

[vague depot]

I have been lied to again

https://tenor.com/view/nero-nero-punching-devil-may-cry-nero-sad-gif-20780191

[spare dome]

plus it has cool little corners on it

[fading vale]

clear on hammer isn't bad at all anymore

[prime ridge]

Last time I used it it did more knocking down than killing

[fiery ingot]

for dense hordes should i be using SA - L1 - SA - L1?

o wait

[fading vale]

no not at all

[fiery ingot]

sa doesnt reset combo

[fading vale]

H1 H2 H1 H2

[vague depot]

Swing for the benches

[fiery ingot]

how do i reset and avoid the h3 tho?

[fading vale]

you can also L1 H2 on ironhelm

[fading vale]

block cancel

[vague depot]

Would block cancel work

[fiery ingot]

ohh okokok

[spare dome]

or sprint cancel yea

[fiery ingot]

at what moment should i push attack?

[spare dome]

can just bypass ig

[vague depot]

Sprint cancel is wild I never thought of that

[prime ridge]

Y'all seent that clip of the guy who figured out the impact stacks from blessings affect corpse interaction?

[vague depot]

I would like to

[fading vale]

I'd only push attack when you feel the need to push

[prime ridge]

I'd have to dig into the reddit, give me a bit

[fading vale]

IIRC ironhelm push attack is just an L1

[fiery ingot]

it is similar yeah

[fading vale]

but the push followup is H3

[fiery ingot]

for singular enemies that are scattered around (shooters for example) do i just spam light attacks?

[fading vale]

yeah

[vague depot]

Is it more efficient to chain knife heavy attacks or do special attacks

[fading vale]

the L1 may struggle to 1 tap some minor enemies but the strikedowns should 1 shot them no problem

[fiery ingot]

yeah so this is probably a skill issue but, if its not just getting used to it, is there a way to avoid missing your target ?

[vague depot]

The swing after the punch looks a lot like knife h1

[fading vale]

also if you don't have thrust on your hammer it's dead

[fading vale]

uhhhh, aim?

[fiery ingot]

like sometimes i used lights and the swing doesnt hit my target because i missed

[vague depot]

Aim at enemy

[fading vale]

lol

[vague depot]

Aim more down

[fiery ingot]

ohh i shouldnt be aiming for heads like most weapons?

[vague depot]

You should

[fading vale]

you should be

[vague depot]

Idk why you are missing

Maybe too far away

[prime ridge]

I remain defeated

[fading vale]

strikedowns can be a little weird at times in this game

but yeah just practice I guess

[prime ridge]

I don't remember what the post was called or when it was posted

I am lost

[vague depot]

Game is weird in general

Fatshark still doesn’t know how to word shit correctly

[fading vale]

IIRC there is still a bug in the enemy targeting code that returns the inverse order of enemies

which mostly effects stacked things on strikedowns I think

like when you special a mutie that has a poxwalker inside of it and it hits the poxwalker

[tardy thicket]

Bretheren whats best guns for horde clearing

[frozen glen]

flamer

[fading vale]

flamer, kant shotty, brauto

though I wouldn't go over the top on clearing hordes with a brauto, just sometimes

[vague depot]

Me personally I like to get ok the thick of things

[light holly]

Columbus iag

[tardy thicket]

[light holly]

[fiery ingot]

man its even harder to deal with hordes when there's a bulwark

[vague depot]

And then scream as my revved evis crit slips through the mauler and hits the poxburster 6 miles away

[fading vale]

bulwarks take learning how to manipulate the hammer hitbox

[fiery ingot]

1 special heavy goes into disabling his shield and the other doesnt reach because they get covered by the horde when they're stunned

[vague depot]

I try to clear the horde towards the left when I see a bulwark

[fading vale]

generally you don't want to special the bulwark shield, wait for it to attack

[fiery ingot]

or the heavy just gets eaten by his shield when he's stunned (the heavy starting from right to left)

ooo okay

[fading vale]

also you need to get used to hit trading which is part of why TWBS is so good

for hammer especially

[fiery ingot]

ohhh

so i will be trading hits when horde clearing no matter what?

[vague depot]

Fair enough

[vague depot]

Only against specific enemies

[fading vale]

no just when you are trying to dive and special specific things

[fiery ingot]

ooh ok yeah that happened, but i assumed it was a mistake

[vague depot]

So how do I slot in twbs on this

[fading vale]

pure horde is just heavies and dodge dancing for the most part and mixing lights to kill specific things faster

ironhelm can do H1 H2 special spam

[vague depot]

Can’t find a way without losing good damage

[fading vale]

you could drop marty TDR and sustained, or TDR vicious and duellist but

idk what weapon you are using

either way you lose important things

[tardy thicket]

This good so far?

[crisp veldt]

how should i build this

[fading vale]

basically perfect

[tardy thicket]

shit im too broke to fully upgrade

what blessings do you want for the kant

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

[fading vale]

well, the first target is a bit low but outside of that you would need to keep thrust and swap thunderstrike to headtaker/slaughterer and infested to unyielding

[fiery ingot]

ok im getting the hang of it

[fading vale]

at the end of the day you are gonna have to make a new hammer

[fiery ingot]

mixed hordes is still very scary tho

[crisp veldt]

holy shit your profile pic sibling

[fiery ingot]

OH DAMN

[fading vale]

no respite and either full bore FF or DS

[fiery ingot]

ANOTHER NOSE GOD

[crisp veldt]

unyielding for bosses?

[fading vale]

ideally you would have unyielding and flak

unyielding for bosses and 1 tap lights on bulwark heads with a couple buffs up

[crisp veldt]

strange i alr one tap bulwarks w/o unyielding

same goes for reaper

[vague depot]

I’ll just have to cope with sliding and positioning for now

[delicate shadow]

you could give up immo nades and free up a bunch of points that way I suppose

[fiery ingot]

is it a bad habit if a decide to start my horde clearing with push attack every time i reset a combo?

cause im having trouble timing my heavies while also outpacing enemies attacks

so the push attack feels very nice and helps with a quick stagger chaining to a heavy

[shy river]

push swing isn't a bad opener, I just usually try to build a thrust heavy swing if I can time it to start but do what feels appropiate

crucis thammer is one of the harder melees to learn so getting comfortable handling (sometimes mixed) hordes with just hammer is a developed skill

[fiery ingot]

ahh okok

yeah i really want to get gud at it, seems like a fun weapon to master

[shy river]

there's definitely a high ceiling of potential, its def one of my favorites

[lofty shell]

someone said I was "goated" what does this mean :/

[uncut steeple]

good at game

[lofty shell]

oh i thought it was an insult

thx

[ripe quest]

You're a furry

No cure.

[lofty shell]

This is a big fear of mine.

Suddenly just getting declared a furry

[ripe quest]

Up side is you have a 50% smoother learning curve with anything involving a computer.

[lofty shell]

Oh damn had no idea it came with a stat increase

[fading vale]

I said light

[lofty shell]

Any of you guys know what the best revolver blessings are

its crucian and surgical right

or is hand cannon better

[fading vale]

surgical and hand cannon

[lofty shell]

what kinda perks it like?

flak / unarmoured?

[fading vale]

flak maniac

[lofty shell]

thx bb

ive been loving revolver on vet but have yet to try it on preacher

[fading vale]

it's similarly OP on zealot especially cause the blessings

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/trolling-anime-me-after-a-long-day-gif-25970094

[ornate bone]

I'm gonna do unhinged shit

I'm gonna play a slow melee without TWBS

[ripe quest]

Most of our slow melees have safe combos

I think like, Mk XII Chaxe is the only weapon I've handled where no TWBS can suck

But that was only with the Twins

[fading vale]

try hammer without it

[ripe quest]

I have

[fading vale]

it's ass

[ripe quest]

Some combos of Elites and like CS can be annoying without it yeah

[fading vale]

you lose like half your aggression and can't hit trade in hordes

so no bonking shit in hordes

[ripe quest]

Ah yeah I use Ironhelm usually. Doesn't have as much of the horde problem.

[fading vale]

just sounds like you play back and heavy spam a bit more which imo is not ideal hammer particularly relative to other weapons

[ornate bone]

And of course I just crash

And I don't feel like going back, honestly

But due to the game's sometimes fortunate system to prevent people from getting screwed by that, I hold a spot hostage if I don't

[agile tinsel]

Just recently got this flamer at Profane and salivated over the base stats, though idk what to look for in terms of blessings and perks. How good is this from "literally flawless" to "trash it and try again?"

[naive star]

Needs Blaze Away

[lofty shell]

watchu think bois?

[lofty shell]

do people even use the braced autogun lol. Don't see it often

[naive star]

I like that specific VIII model myself a lot, its called Space AK

[ornate bone]

Fellas

I have never felt so powerless

[naive star]

Hits hard and can tapfire accurately still single shots

[ornate bone]

The shotgunners looked at my chastise and just said

"no"

[lofty shell]

I need to remember to tapfire more often with it

[agile tinsel]

I don't know what that blessing does, but I take it I'd replace Showstopper once I butcher it from a different flamer?

[lofty shell]

More damage the longer u shoot is what blaze away does

[agile tinsel]

Ah, yeah that sounds excellent

Basically the opposite of the first blessing, lol

[lofty shell]

its pretty solid on most zealot weapons

[agile tinsel]

Ah, so it's like Cavalcade but for the Flamer!

[rigid trellis]

showstopper would be sick if it was actually good

[agile tinsel]

Anything else to look for with it?

[naive star]

Ive started to like Flamer now that ive been hunting the "kill 40 stunned" with it

[ripe quest]

B+. Cloud Radius is nice when it's high, you can dip a bit with Damage since it's not as important as Burn. I'd personally steal Overpressure off of it so you can use it when it gets fixed. If you want to fix it put Blaze Away instead of Showstopper and +Infested to +Flak.

[agile tinsel]

Funny enough, that's half the reason I'm building it too

[naive star]

Whipping it out when big heavy armored elite pack appears, F to em, then dodge backwards and burn the whole group

[ripe quest]

A bit mixed, you want to burn them then ult.

[rigid trellis]

you do much more damage if you apply burn stacks before using F

[ripe quest]

You're goal is to hit high or max stacks of burn and then ult.

[naive star]

Ok, burn stacks then at max ignore one layer of armor and work better?

Guess i need to install that mod which shows burn stacks and other status effects, whats it called?

[ripe quest]

It's good. DPS tool with solid anti-shooter qualities. The Agri is nice for the per-shot damage but recent buffs made the other two viable iirc. A shitload of weapons are viable rn and Revolver is a top favorite so trying to look for a specific weapon being used is hard.

[ripe quest]

Debuff Indicator. I recommend changing the settings to color code debuffs and make them less cluttered.

[fading vale]

chastise does the armor downgrade and you just want the highest burn damage up for the limited duration

[naive star]

Ok makes sense, i just have no way of knowing when i have that, so installing that mod now as we speak

[fading vale]

15 ammo would be max stacks ignoring crits

[ripe quest]

One of us. One of us.

[naive star]

Im at mod 23 now it seems

True pain of flamer with stun grenade to hunt penance is lack of quick ranged to deal with specials. Once im done with penance, maybe try adding throwing knives

[sturdy owl]

What's the target cap for lights on the XV evis?

[ripe quest]

4

a revved light has a cap of 6

[sturdy owl]

So you can only hit a max of 4 targets no matter how much cleave you have right?

[rigid trellis]

you can only damage 4, you'll still hit/stagger other enemies with more cleave which contributes to crit cdr but that's the only reason you'd need more cleave on it

rampage gives enough cleave otherwise

[naive star]

Okay testing flamer now at Psykhanium can really see the difference

[ripe quest]

This can vary a bit tbf

[naive star]

Tips to make less cluttered?

[ripe quest]

Nothing specific but this is what I use, it never becomes an issue but I'm always aware of certain debuffs.

I also have a good number of enemies disabled, literally no point in seeing stuff on like fodder since if they have a debuff they're half a second away from death

[fiery ingot]

i have it enable only on elite enemies and bosses which are the ones that i care about since everything else can be pretty much one shotted or close to it

and only the debuffs that i care about too

[naive star]

Yeah makes sense, no point seeing stacks on sniper as they almost one tap anyway

[fiery ingot]

yep

[naive star]

Mutant though?

[ripe quest]

Up to you.

[naive star]

Kept mutant and these

[stiff mirage]

worth keeping ?

[naive star]

Only block efficiency looks bad

Flak there and you golden

[obtuse magnet]

i mean it’s not touched at all so def worth

just swap block for flak and save the other to get a t4 blessing or make that maniac a t4 instead of t3

[ripe quest]

Yeah

[naive star]

Liking Mk XV, so looking ahead trying that II too

[fiery ingot]

yeah that looks good enough. disable every debuff that you dont know what it is as its prob something from other class. britleness is very nice to have for bosses

[naive star]

I like how customizable this is, can even bind key to change styles on what it shows ingame

If im not running something that demands more info, can turn it down a notch with click of a button

[sterile stone]

They asked this man what mods he wanted

He replied

"All of em"

[fiery ingot]

if it aint to turn the game into skyrim then i aint even playing

[naive star]

SpecialsTracker seems interesting mod

No more suprised by Trapper from behind

(and i already have spidey sense)

[ripe quest]

I used to have more and then the Class Overhaul ruined my mods to the point where I reinstalled the game

[fiery ingot]

i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks i hate bulwarks

[dense field]

Kantrael shotgun

[rigid trellis]

trauma staff goes brrr

just realised what chat I was in

point still stands

[wraith helm]

Another 1.1M damage game that was fucking miserable

[ripe quest]

@fading vale Fun Fact: Agri IAG will settle at a better accuracy while moving than just standing still while hipfiring.

The effect is extremely dramatic if you start firing whilst moving

[fiery ingot]

ok i give up on thammer

too much effort to put the same thing i can deliver with less effort and faster with other weapons

[toxic girder]

me charging the heavy chainaxe shredder on the stunned bulwark only for the hit to connect with his shoulder pauldron

[fiery ingot]

maybe when i get better at this game i will give it another go

[fiery ingot]

pain

[ripe quest]

It's actually kinda interesting how Agri has the worst standing still hipfire accuracy but the best moving accuracy of the three IAGs.

[ember yew]

where is addon for real men

Keep Swinging

[ripe quest]

That just sounds dumb

why would I need that

[steady valley]

does anyone got a build talent wise thats good on the secret hard mode of the karnak twins?

[ember yew]

i hope someone will do that, but for heavies spam, so i can eat some stuff on the side while using crucis mk2 or hs9

[ripe quest]

There used to be a mod that would let you get more complex macros going on but FS removed it.

[ember yew]

i remember it was because

of animation cancel of evis mk2

or something

way too broken

[cursive cloak]

This just in. I love my power maul

[lean lark]

i think you're talking about two different macro mods

and getting confused

[ripe quest]

I just recall the one that made BM Limbsplitter Caxe really potent.

Was up for like a week before it got taken down, I still have the mod somewhere

[ember yew]

https://youtu.be/eetS5gZIoik

fatshark

may start to hunt these types of mods though

but if i was a FS member, i would've taken out something like SpiderSense first

[still quartz]

if I was Fatshark, I would've made the sounds of them spawning louder

The ones in VT2 were much louder than in Darktide

[rigid trellis]

if their specialist audio wasn't fucked I doubt many people would use them

[still quartz]

Either that, or maybe it's just the amount of gunfire that is drowning out the spawn noise

[ember yew]

lets hope they get back to work

after the neverending vacation

[ripe quest]

They should be back by now, probs a week ago or so.

[naive star]

SpideySense + SpecialsTracker + Debuff todays new mods in action

Why does it have those Carapace Armor twice there though?

[ember yew]

bug probably

or a spawn mod

sometimes psykanium bugs like that for me too

[naive star]

Ok, aslong as its not regular game

[ripe quest]

It happens when you have the Psykanium stuff enabled.

[naive star]

I have that

[still quartz]

The mod + Psykhanium displays damage health bar too

[naive star]

Ah makes sense

[still quartz]

So the mod that shows HP Bars is being shown on top of the default Psykhanium one

[fiery ingot]

just got this as emperor gift

maybe the emperor does love me

[still quartz]

Ooo

Hmmm

Let me cook for a bit

Full Bore on Kantrael is hard asf to proc BUT

It'll be very good for killing big guys

So you can literally just change the perks to Damage vs Flak and Damage vs Maniac

Or Damage vs Unyielding but I don't think that's as needed if you run the Purge the Unclean talent

[fiery ingot]

problem is

i already have a better one

[still quartz]

[meager bison]

I literally wouldn't use spidey sense if it wasn't for bugged sounds.

Even then I only use it for pox bursters and trappers cause those two bug out for me.

[rigid trellis]

it's always bursters and snipers for me

I'll cop a silent sniper bullet to the face randomly

[fiery ingot]

bursters trappers and dogs

tho dogs is easy to fix, just bash whenever you hear their sound

the one they do when they jump

[meager bison]

Yeah, I've never not heard the jumping one

[fiery ingot]

but yeah silent poxbursters terrorizes me even in my dreams

[meager bison]

It'll just be like "Op, I'm literally inside a poxburster, nice"

[stiff mirage]

silent bursters always come at the worst time too

[fiery ingot]

there's never a good time for silent poxbursters wdym

[rigid trellis]

and it's not even just that bursters are silent till they go off, the characters sometimes don't even say 'We've got a burster!' until it's already jumping at you

[thorn flicker]

i feel like i've never had much of an issue with being able to hear the special sounds

i instinctively dodge when i hear a trapper net, or a hound, or a mutant... usually snipers too

[rigid trellis]

It gets worse the higher you go in difficulty because there are so many enemies alive at once and only so many audio cues can play at any given moment

the biggest issue as of late is poxbursters not beeping until they're right next to you

[thorn flicker]

i can't say i've ever had that issue, maybe 5% of the time but i am usually paying attention to at least bursters and mutants from the moment they spawn

on like, auric damnation

mutants move fast enough i can usually start charging my thunder hammer a moment after they spawn and then bonk them before they take anyone on my team out

[rigid trellis]

imo mutant are too loud if anything

[split sable]

best blessings for the bolter? i'm trying out different ranged guns

[rigid trellis]

but yeah mutants are fine, it's really just bursters and the odd sniper in my experience

[rigid trellis]

there's a weapon guide in the pins

[south folio]

snipers being quiet if you're not their target is such an insane consequence of how enemy noises work

[split sable]

just wanted to read peoples personal experience with it. thanks tho

[thorn flicker]

in my experience the bursters can be pretty loud, but occasionally the audio engine will like muffle the sound very significantly if they're behind a wall (depending on the geometry of the map)

[rigid trellis]

yeah or if they're behind a spawn door the beeping will be completely silent but that's always been a thing, it's taught a lot of people to not sit in front of spawn doors

[quasi marsh]

Spawn doors are soundproof

For whatever reason

[stiff dagger]

just got this, what should i change?

[flat marsh]

Wrath to rampage or whatever that damage on hitting 3 enemies blessing is

And then have fun with a crit build

[ember yew]

ye, change wrath with rampage and later you can also scrap Shred IV from it, when you get something better, so you can finish 2+2

[zealous basin]

ladies and gentlemen

https://tenor.com/view/cigale-insect-le-sud-chaleur-ete-gif-12159627

[potent flare]

which of the eviscerators is better the II or the XV

[zealous basin]

they're different (its the II)

[this is my personal opinion i am not a lawyer]

[still siren]

is it just me or is the ironsights for the new revo skin ass

[lone pecan]

XV has an easier move set, for me it's that one

[ember yew]

it is

replace it with mods if you can (weapon customization mod)

[still siren]

damn

[rigid trellis]

mk15 is better for taking out big enemies like ogryns, mk2 is more versatile and has a more involved and imo fun moveset/combos

[zealous basin]

dude i just read

the absolute worst reddit comment of my life

theres 2 more paragraphs after this btw

[potent flare]

ok i like my mkII anyway so sounds like i dont really need to swap off it

[zealous basin]

redditors literally dont understand basic darktide game mechanics

absurd cleave guys

[still siren]

it does cleave just doesnt damage all of them

[zealous basin]

yes which makes it very much not absurd

[still siren]

does hsword not have a cap too?

[zealous basin]

it does not

no good horde clearing weapon has a cleave damage cap

[potent flare]

which stat on the mkII eviscerator should i ignore if any?

[zealous basin]

mobility (but u still want it above 51ish)

[ember yew]

the guy just love new MK XV, give him some slack

[still siren]

[zealous basin]

hes allowed to love it but if he wants to make a bunch of objectively wrong statements then he gets the toast!

:3

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dyingaliengif-gif-23950364

[ember yew]

its like when you like something, you tend to overreact and make it bigger than it actually is

[zealous basin]

look i have loved OG evi since launch

i didnt cope...

[ember yew]

mk2 evis was the first ever weapon i mained in the game

then i tried Rashad, HSword, MK4 Evis, both Hammers and list goes on

[potent flare]

i honestly only swaped from psyker to zealot so i could use the eviscerator

[ember yew]

as you play you want something new to try, so you go and waste your resources on new things

[potent flare]

but ive been loving it since so

[ember yew]

and thats fine

MK15 is perfectly fine for max diff in this game

[ripe quest]

Hsword isn't even the best horde clear what

bro is lost

[gaunt bronze]

Looking at your thrust 4 chat history I am incredibly disheartened.

[flat marsh]

Rashad intensifies

[ripe quest]

no

[still siren]

rashad only hits 2 no?

[ripe quest]

Rashad is kinda meh horde clear with some of the options on the table

[ember yew]

its still probably better than my MK15 evis 2+2 Shred/Rampage history

[zealous basin]

nah lazorr just sucks ass

as long as ur better than him ur fine

[gaunt bronze]

I dunno I've been rolling only hammers for weeks, no other weapons, and I've rolled one single thrust 3.

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-paper-slot-machine-las-vegas-quarantine-casino-gif-16785818

cant do much about casino

just try again later

[gaunt bronze]

I just gotta keep gambling until I win.

[ripe quest]

Also if I had a nickel for every weapon stat card that was blatantly inaccurate I'd be fuckin rich

[ember yew]

[lone pecan]

Weapons with easy move sets are great for new players who are still learning, like me, let's you focus on other things a little bit more while you can spam the easy move set, like positions and paying attention to specials. Later when you are good at those things you can try harder move set weapons, imo

[ripe quest]

This is nuts how much is so incorrect

[ember yew]

MK15 is indeed one of the easiest with moveset, like Rashad.

[rigid trellis]

make sure you check melk every day, that's how I got thrust 4 on mine

[gaunt bronze]

I found Thrust 4 on an axe at melk

[stiff mirage]

99% of players stop before they get their godroll hammer

[gaunt bronze]

But I need thrust 4 on hammer.

[ripe quest]

If you're looking to farm for T4 blessings you can kinda force it. Get a 360+ weapon, at blue put a T4 blessing that you don't want for the 2nd (anything but Thrust here), upgrade it to orange. I think making the 1st perk T4 helps but I cannot confirm. Crafting is nebulous. So far I've only gotten T4 blessings out of it, though the weapon itself will lose some of the more strategic modifications since 1 or 2 mod slots are locked by orange.

@fading vale sorry for ping but what is your current knowledge about the IAGs and the Brautos. Like if someone were to ask what the differences were what would you say

[lone pecan]

Is there more to it than ADS vs braced?

[ripe quest]

On the Brautos it depends, Columnus and Agri get better burst accuracy and the Graia gets the best DPS for the Brautos while braced.

The IAGs you just get the accuracy.

[lone pecan]

And when would I want to use a braced one over infantry? I haven't played with too many guns yet, so to me braced just looks like better hip fire. I don't even know what I would use it for really. Shoot into a group of elites?

[candid nest]

anyone know the best way to complete Purge the heretics? Seems like it'll take...a long time

<I'm a zealot main

[ripe quest]

The IAGs are better finesse weapons, if you hit 100% weakspots you'll completely outclass the Brautos. Downside is they're generally less accurate while hipfiring but the ADS is accurate if you can control the recoil. Also slightly better at range but it's debatable with the Columnus IAG.

Brautos though hit harder per shot with body shots. Also I think they're just better for Unyielding but it doesn't come up much. The Brautos in general will compete with damage if you're not intending to take time hitting weakspots. They're more accurate while hipfiring but don't have a pinpoint accuracy mode.

[lone pecan]

Start a private game and farm kills on a map location with an endless horde maybe?

[candid nest]

private counts?

[ripe quest]

Private lobbies do yeah

You need a duo to start it though

[candid nest]

Does the uhhhh test area count?>

[ripe quest]

no

[candid nest]

damn

[ripe quest]

That's a solo lobby, hosted by you and not the server.

Private lobbies are still hosted by the server, they're just y'know private

[candid nest]

absolutely stupid

[rigid trellis]

it's not exactly a penance you go out of your way to complete

[candid nest]

fair but was wondering cause just damn I'm still 4/5 complete

How many kills does 5/5 need?

[rigid trellis]

it should tell you on the penance somewhere

[candid nest]

Only says the one you're on

[lone pecan]

So braced might be something to consider for people who don't have the best aim but still want to shoot guns into heretics, I guess. Hitting weak spots can definitely be a problem depending on what you have on your team, like a trauma staff psyker or crusher zealot.

[ember yew]

1 million

gl hf

[candid nest]

Oh fuck that

DOUBLE from 4!?

[ember yew]

double

and then you get the frame

[lone pecan]

He thought it was easy

[ember yew]

its like

1000 hours+ of gameplay

[candid nest]

I'm 700+ hours in

[rigid trellis]

only 900 away

[candid nest]

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

[ember yew]

so you only at 37% of the goal

[candid nest]

Fuck you for doing the math!

[ember yew]

but actually

did you saw

missions penances?

you will get 1 million kills

much faster

than you do all mission penances

[candid nest]

Yeaaaa I see that

...I gotta start actually completing missions...

[ember yew]

unless maybe speedrunning low difficulty

but thats no fun

[candid nest]

I was just thinking that

Maybe speed running non aurics?

but then...where's the fun in that

[ripe quest]

If you're aggressive a Brauto or a Colunmus IAG are the play generally. The Graia IAG maybe but it's a sidegrade Columnus in a couple ways by dropping the firerate and improving damage falloff and running accuracy.

[candid nest]

I'm a believer in holding W with the XV evis

[ember yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474859644494544898/1194528736087908434/image.png?ex=65b0ae93&is=659e3993&hm=c346b0b00b912c947ba0fc59c08613d77f81f2caf2eb04dd10ac7843f5a52fbd&

then this is the gun for you

[candid nest]

I've got these 2

I don't use em

[ember yew]

look all ready

and if you like it

you can try to get better one later

[candid nest]

Is this one any good?

[lone pecan]

I do enjoy the colun on my vet, just wish it had max stability, because it's easy to miss a lot of bullets with that fire rate. Maybe I should give the Graia a try until I find a better one, for the easier to control recoil. Or maybe I'm playing the colun wrong, because I find myself in situations where I need to shoot far away gunners with it and yeah, that doesn't always go well

[ember yew]

yes and ready to use with few replacements

[candid nest]

replace what

[abstract venture]

Barrage to death spitter and crit damage to flak damage and it's perfect

[lone pecan]

Barrage and crit damage with fire frenzy or deathsplitter and flak, right?

[candid nest]

^ haha

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/rambo-first-blood-gif-23989356

so much variety

[candid nest]

So which of the 3 should I rock over my ?

I've done a lot of farming...

Columm grai or agri?

[abstract venture]

I reckon the column with the blessing+perk swapped would be best option

[ripe quest]

If you're in situations where you need to hit further enemies try the Agri IAG or Brauto too. The Agri Brauto covers all ranges fairly well, the IAG will def cover those ranges but will have worse close range damage than the Columnus.

[candid nest]

So agri is the all rounder?

I've rocking a Evis so my close range is fine imo

[rigid trellis]

I feel like revolver is one of the best pairs for the evis but that may just be my bias talking

[ripe quest]

Both the Agri and Columnus Brautos I'd say are "all rounders" but the Columnus is a bit malnourished.

[abstract venture]

I'll always recommend a revolver with the evis

[rigid trellis]

although tbf revolver is like the best gun in the game bar plasma

[abstract venture]

Both las pistols are also viable for single target damage/anything your evis lacks doing easily

[candid nest]

I think the Kan is better for the sole reason teh Alt fire goes through shields

[lone pecan]

Thank you for all the info, I will keep an eye out for weapons that Hadron can brick

[candid nest]

Also tyvm for this I'ma try a mission out with this

[ripe quest]

The Brautos are fairly easy to build. The IAGs though have like 10 blessings.

[lone pecan]

[ember yew]

columnus V got like 13

its insane

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474859644494544898/1194530591509590076/image.png?ex=65b0b04e&is=659e3b4e&hm=3e5301fafc188d73ba23c6126b5a145de4fcae2c300f5db6a6c5ffa42042f0a9&

i got this and rn wont try for new one

[fiery ingot]

That's one very long gun

[haughty haven]

what's prolly the most balanced melee for zealot

the bois tell me evicerator gameplay

[fiery ingot]

Crusher

[haughty haven]

and the new one not the old one whatever that means

oh shit i use crusher rn

[fiery ingot]

Idk if is the most balanced but i fucking love it

[haughty haven]

thing is straight up disrespectful

[fiery ingot]

It is

[rigid trellis]

wdym by balanced

[haughty haven]

make a crusher do situps mid charge gameplay

[fiery ingot]

Yeeting ragers to the side is one hell of a satisfying thing to do

[haughty haven]

just not really lacking in any regard heavily

can do bossing/mobbing/specials good but not exceptionally good or bad

[rigid trellis]

yeah new evis has an answer to nearly everything but crusher is probably the best overall for a jack of all trades

new evis struggles with groups of bulwarks and a lot of crushers but that's about it

[fiery ingot]

Like every chain weapon, evis will require you to manage your special atks when you're in going in for a boss or elite packs

[rigid trellis]

you can whittle them down given enough time

[haughty haven]

it leaves me wanting more for alpha damage

the crusher anyway

maybe i just need to set up a good one

[rigid trellis]

new evis 1 shots crushers with a revved up heavy attack on crit

and 1 shots maulers and all other ogryns without crit

[fiery ingot]

Check out the pinned guide if you intend on going further with crusher

[haughty haven]

will do

think zealot will be my next class after psyker to fine tune

[fiery ingot]

I also like very much dclaw but needs a bit learning with the parry and you dont really do much damage to nurgle beasts as you dont have much to parry from them

[haughty haven]

i just leveled all of them and got them to kinda work on heresy and lower level damnation and moved on to the next lol

using d claw on vet so not a option unfortunately

it's not a perfect one but it does the job fairly well

[fiery ingot]

Yeah its not so bad

I like the mk4 because of the push attack into heavy

[haughty haven]

good at trash mobbing that's all i needed it for

[rigid trellis]

mk4 strikedown heavy is nice too

[ripe quest]

Chainsword, Mk II Evis, Crusher, Rashad Caxe, Hsword.

[haughty haven]

yeah i loved my crappy mk4 but the milk man blessed me with this today and i couldn't say no

[fiery ingot]

Oh yeah there's heavy swords too

[haughty haven]

trying hsword rn and not too big of a fan

[fiery ingot]

I often forgwt about their existence because i dont use them at all

[haughty haven]

problem is i'm not terribly good

i'm getting good at staying alive lol

[fiery ingot]

I don't like them either, but i think its a matter of getting used to

[haughty haven]

crusher is fine cuz i just bowl everything over lol

[fiery ingot]

Yeah crusher makes you feel powerful

[haughty haven]

more damage would be nice tho

[ripe quest]

Both Hsword and Caxe are reliant on Deathblow (or Rampage + Headtaker) and Brutal Momentum. You can get 4-5 elite kills per swing with them under the right conditions.

[haughty haven]

really the knockdown on crusher is incredibly team supportive so maybe i should just make a nice one

[lean lark]

rampage headtaker isnt good on hsword

when deathblow exists

[haughty haven]

crushers and ragers can't disrespect my teammates if i disrespec em first

[lean lark]

the use cases are next to none since the only upside of using rampage ht over deathblow ht is better horde clear

[rigid trellis]

ogryn style

[lone pecan]

Right, crusher is the perfect weapon to bully ragers

[ripe quest]

Yeah that's about what I've heard.

[fiery ingot]

You can take the most out of its damage by doing the right combos. It's not hard at all to master and you can get everything from it at josho pinned guide

[haughty haven]

i think i have both of the impact blessings on it rn lmao

[ripe quest]

There's a Crusher guide in pins rn if you're curious.

Made by resident Crusher-man.

[haughty haven]

i'll look into it. the ability to lay bulwarks and crushers flat might just be too supportive and class dependant to let go of

[fiery ingot]

Yeah take your time

I love how deep melee weapons in this game can be

[haughty haven]

its just nice cuz i never feel ambushed with the crusher

i am the ambush

[fiery ingot]

Not just an brainless hack and slash

Well, for most weapons that is

[ripe quest]

That specific utility can be covered by other weapons too, Crusher is just all around very generalist. Hits hard, CCs well, decent horde clear.

[haughty haven]

it's ability to lay things on their back even if you're not killing them?

yeah the generalist hting is something i tend to shoot for

my vet is very balanced across lol it's good enough at defending itself with melee, good at revolver has kraks for bosses etc

[fiery ingot]

You can also delete bulwark and crusher packs with boltgun too

[haughty haven]

yeah im running boltgun secondary

again likely trash blessings or whatever the game gave me on it

[ripe quest]

Crusher is probably the best at doing it back to back, though the Ironhelm Thammer can get a bit close. I was more referring to how there are a couple weapons that will wipe those enemies from existence.

[fiery ingot]

If you dont end up one shotting ragers, you can use dclaw parry and I think it staggers the rager you hit with it

Not sure about maulers and crushers tho

[royal vortex]

the 6 interlocked bulwarks live in fear of the special l1

[fiery ingot]

I hate bulwarks so much

[candid nest]

Okay this did some amazing work

[fiery ingot]

That I cant live without crusher or boltgun

[candid nest]

QUick swaps

Like it, now to try out the other ones

[royal vortex]

the fact that they didn't update bulwark stagger thresholds at all

so the special l1 cleave will just fkin open all the shields it touches

is very funny

[haughty haven]

bw shields are dumb as fuck

like if i can see the things face lemme pop it in the face

[royal vortex]

they are the pinnacle of gameplay

i feel nothing but excitement when 4 bulwarks round the corner

[haughty haven]

pisses me off to no end with my revolver like

[royal vortex]

joyous me. fatshark has graced me with gameplay

[haughty haven]

i can see the skull

gimme the skull

[fiery ingot]

Blessed be the person that recommended me the crusher. I don't remember who it was from here, but I also got lots of helps and advices on it. Now I simply love it

[royal vortex]

its at least better than on launch

[haughty haven]

im at the "like it" stage

[royal vortex]

where u would be standing behind a bulwark

or slightly to the side

as he is on the ground

shield most certainly not blocking attacks

and he just

did not care

[haughty haven]

it's still kinda like that lol

[royal vortex]

o man if u think its bad rn

[haughty haven]

lmao

[royal vortex]

we have come a long way

[haughty haven]

couldn't stand the game before skill trees tbh

[ripe quest]

I think it's so funny that current Bulwarks will sometimes just get opened by some random stuff. I need to catch it but sometimes the Brautos will instant open them

[haughty haven]

thought it was a trashy gorey version of Borderland endgame

[royal vortex]

oh there was a time where bulwarks were bugged so that almost all stagger would set them to the shield reset animation

the same one that plays if u like push it from the front

but this would happen when they swung and you shot them

so they would just fkin parry the bullets

this lasted for only like a week thank god

but it was so agitating

[haughty haven]

skillz that killz

holy fuck

[fiery ingot]

unintended buff

fatshark might've thought they were too weak

or not relevant enough

[ripe quest]

I'd be very jazzed if they made the shield breakable.

[fiery ingot]

what jazzed means?

[ripe quest]

Grooving

[native cargo]

Remember when bulwarks

[haughty haven]

there is one that can break through it

but we don't talk about that here

[royal vortex]

bulwarks should have a spawn cap like specials

theres legitimately just no actual reason to have them spawn in packs of 6

[haughty haven]

dude i was doing a low intensity earlier and it spawned i shit you not

[native cargo]

I mean

[haughty haven]

like

[fiery ingot]

i had to google translate it and i still dont get it

[haughty haven]

literally 35 flak ragers at once

[native cargo]

They do that to bully the player

Because fuck us

[royal vortex]

although i think like

it would be cool if patrols had more dynamic compositions of elites

[haughty haven]

im not even exagerating

[native cargo]

6 bulwarks specifically there just to make us scream

[haughty haven]

actually im pretty sure if i grab the footage im underexagerating

they just would not stop

[sly shale]

28 stab wounds

[haughty haven]

used up 45 shots out of the glorius zarona

[fiery ingot]

i gave up on flamer when i found out that it cant get past bulwarks shields. why was i thinking that flames would behave like kantrael shotty slug, why

[ripe quest]

Jazzed like Jazz: genre of music. Grooving is the parent word of vibing, both mean to be in the flow of the situation. Generally a good thing.

[haughty haven]

why can their ghey flames get around ogryn shield than

[rigid trellis]

if bulwarks can block flamers then ogryn shield should too

[haughty haven]

AND DEFLECTOR

[fiery ingot]

ohhh okok. translate gave grooving as like scratching so i thought you would hate it for some reason lmao

[ripe quest]

That shot used to go through walls

[fiery ingot]

ty for explaining

[royal vortex]

dont make me remember

[ripe quest]

Yeah no that's english

[royal vortex]

the good old days

[haughty haven]

if i gotta turn down one of those juicy exclusive damage perks i should be able to block fire with my mind

[royal vortex]

where dudes would get dogged in a shipping container

and u just load the shell and point it in their general direction

[sly shale]

The flamer's flames should really leave some residue on the ground

[ripe quest]

God it doesn't need to be even better at it's job

[fiery ingot]

yeah just let it go through bulwarks damn shield

[royal vortex]

theres like an entire grenade

that does that

[fiery ingot]

the cost is too high

[native cargo]

Give flamer sticky flames from drg

Yeah

[ripe quest]

I think Flamers having an Elite that's a hard counter is fine

[native cargo]

Become a driller

[ripe quest]

You can wipe everything else save for bosses

[royal vortex]

tbf immo nades get a lil comically shafted in terms of toughness regen options

i have seen 1 guy take voice of terra and it was crab as a joke with the left side of blazing piety

because it would give like 4.5% toughness per ranged kill

[fiery ingot]

i played this game very early on and sometimes i would get called out on deep dives for not bringing the ice thrower thingy

[ripe quest]

That build with a Scattershot + Man-Stopper Lawby is unironically some of the funniest material ever

[royal vortex]

u can also do it with vet

[sly shale]

Immo grenades absolutely destroy anything that isn't a Crusher, that's for sure..
But yeah, getting to the grenade is taxing

[royal vortex]

exhilirating takedown is uh