zealot-class

[ornate bone]

I didn't like kant because I maxed the burn in 2 shots and it didn't kill bulwarks

[royal vortex]

so like in the context of increased density

the slug gets WAY less useful

[wooden yew]

look above, its comparing headshot point blank of slug vs kant, the kant did less

[ornate bone]

Depends on how you use the slug

[wooden yew]

it wasnt a slug round

[fading vale]

I can spam a few fire specials into a pack of 10 bulwarks and they all die

[wooden yew]

it was reg slug shotgun round

[ornate bone]

You can stagger a bulwark and then move around the rest to kill it

[minor sage]

yeah but this is a very pointless comparison

[royal vortex]

that's not happening on the majority of maps

[wooden yew]

u can yes, but with slug u can save a teammate who is about to get hit by a crusher

[ornate bone]

Not always doable, but that's kind of the fun

[minor sage]

cuz let's say for example, even if it does less

[fading vale]

you can stagger crushers with the normal fire of a shotgun

[west schooner]

too specific of a condition

[minor sage]

if you're hitting one shot BPs, the dmg literally doesnt matter

[ornate bone]

If you're slippery as a bar of soap, which playing DS psyker made me

[fading vale]

also vet boosts finesse which the agri likes a lot more

[ornate bone]

You can do some really cool shit with a few seconds of stagger

[wooden yew]

for sure, but ive done it a few times nad it always feels good

[dense field]

Teammates deserve the overhead

[fading vale]

agri has high finesse scaling

[azure adder]

I need 15 more missions for my last threshold of a penace if anyone wants/needs a mid, but halfway entertaining chorus spam zealot

Don't mattah what difficulty

[dense field]

Sometimes we all deserve one

[wooden yew]

hold on, lemme shot a crusher w/slug then fire and show dif

[spare dome]

ive got a question for the sooper nerds

[fading vale]

of course fire doesn't hurt a crusher without chastise

[spare dome]

its about impact so get your bored sighs out early

[fading vale]

zealot only thing

[spare dome]

does impact have a finesse stat

[west schooner]

no

impact only affects stagger

[royal vortex]

headshot/crit increase impact values

i don't think u can get a separate like

[fading vale]

impact is higher on weakspot or crit yeah

[wooden yew]

on vet

[royal vortex]

impact finesse thing

to change the crit/headshot scaling on impact

besides that one zealot talent

[spare dome]

and is that increase caused by a separate thing or is it just a fixed number

[royal vortex]

i think its just fixed generally

[fading vale]

again, of course you can't do kant fire damage to crushers without being a zealot

[spare dome]

grievous wounds is what im wondering about

[minor sage]

this is a giga pointless comparison

[dense field]

Carapace is almost immune to dots

[minor sage]

lololol

especially on vet

[spare dome]

is it 50% the number stated for headshots or is it 50% more of the difference between body stagger and the headshot value

[royal vortex]

[ornate bone]

What exactly does the description show?

[wooden yew]

not if it towards the disscusion, but please keep saying its pointless withiut adding anythig useful

[royal vortex]

i think u would have to look at the lua to determine this

[spare dome]

the description is just ambiguous enough that im here

[ornate bone]

I'm almost sure it just makes headshots deal 50% more impact

[fading vale]

@ripe quest do you know this

[spare dome]

and finesse is a thing for damage

[royal vortex]

my intuition is that it deals 50% more impact on a headshot rather than adding 50% to the headshot impact modifier

[spare dome]

so yknow

[royal vortex]

because that would be funny

and inconsistent

[spare dome]

impact finesse doesnt seems that wild to me

[wooden yew]

id like to use the kant, but on vet i cant. i think its wack when im told "u have to zealot" or a weapons function is usless vs this or that

[minor sage]

i dont think theres anything wrong with

certain kits working better

with certain classes

lol

[fading vale]

I mean, dots are useless on carapace unless you can either rend or downgrade the armor

[spare dome]

and at that point just fuckin hit them

[wooden yew]

adding "lol" doesnt make things better. while i agree that yes, some classes should work better with dif things, it shouldnt feel completely cucked

[minor sage]

it doesnt tho

kant is completely fine on vet

it just has better syn with zea

[ripe quest]

I've never bothered to learn how stagger works but I can take a look

[sterile stone]

@median steeple Vibe Check

[ripe quest]

It's the 50% more impact on weakspot right?

[spare dome]

yes, yes, the wheels turn

[wooden yew]

half the ammo for less dmg? i just tested it

[fading vale]

probably good enough to just look at grievous wounds

[spare dome]

grievous wounds yea

[west schooner]

the problem with kant on vet imo is that most of the time u'll need to deal with shooters with it, and it's very ammo inefficient, whilst whenever i play zealot, i end up still using melee vs shooters easily, so kant on a zealot allows me to save up a lot of ammo

[visual stream]

So real for this

[median steeple]

Thats the current vibe

[wooden yew]

thats also my beef, i dont feel like the spread, reduced ammo and low regular shot pen is woth the reduced headshot dmg, range and inc spread

[minor sage]

if you dont think the trade-off it makes is worth it then you dont use it

[west schooner]

currently the only way i've been able to save up on ammo and deal with shooters as a vet using purely melee, is with my knife stealth build

[minor sage]

and people who think it is will use it

[west schooner]

where i've just been playing like a zealot

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-gif-1630712686706559038

BLOOOOOOOOOOD

[spare dome]

i just want shotguns on my Psyker damn it

[native cargo]

RAT SNARLS

[fading vale]

but keep in mind everyone here is looking at shotguns through the eyes of a zealot so

yes on a class that scales weakspot, ranged damage, and shoots more agri would perform better

[maiden path]

im looking at them through the eyes of beb beb :eyeball:

[sterile stone]

You need a snickers

Or a reeses cup

[west schooner]

i heard that the only reason psykers dont have a shotgun is cuz the pellet count effects random brainburst

[native cargo]

Latest khorne warband being sus

[wooden yew]

mind blown like i didnt know that. im aware, but giving my thoughts on a weapon i think underperforms on vet

[native cargo]

idk what to think

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Too7nGq_GNA

queens of the stone age are so badass

[west schooner]

so basically each pellet would have the 10% chance to random brainburst, which pretty much guarantees a random brainburst every shot, but not allowing shotguns on psykers just for that reason seems real stupid

[fading vale]

and guess what, bolter underperforms on zealot but is cracked on vet

it's just how it goes

[wooden yew]

not a fan of the bolter either

not my style

it can be nutty for sure, but im not a fan

[visual stream]

I dodge slide towards shooters with a full gun on my vet for fun

[ornate bone]

This but with pump-action and double-barrel variants

[north sedge]

I want cookie

[wooden yew]

based

i ran an auric with 3 shotguns, and a guy named "doomguy" it was a good time

[dark thunder]

what to do with this with using piety or is it not worth using

[ornate bone]

A guy of doom

[wooden yew]

going full shotgun crack head?

[fading vale]

hit and run to no respite and crit to flak, sad weakspot perk

[ornate bone]

Crit damage to flak, hit and run to no respite and we gucci

Shut up Laz

[wooden yew]

i saw a vet bulid for "stripped down" looked fun

[ornate bone]

Don't gaslight the boy

[dark thunder]

mainly been using knife so was gonna use shotgun for horde clear and bulwark groups

[ornate bone]

Stripped down with duck and dive is fun

[wooden yew]

exctly what it is lol

[ornate bone]

IAGs are good enough with dumdum and perks that you can afford the unorthodox stuff

[ripe quest]

I'm not super sure how well it answers the question but the stagger calc seems to check if you have Grevious Wound's buff, and if you hit a weakspot (it checks for other things here too). Then it takes that value and multiplies it to the stagger power level which goes on to math it's way to the stagger strength.

[wooden yew]

well i dont like the weapon seen abpve, but i cant deny youll be able to do it with that.

[fading vale]

so probably safe to assume it scales total stagger

[ripe quest]

Yeah

[west schooner]

so total stagger increased by 50%

makes sense, if it only scales base stagger by 50% that'd be weird

[ripe quest]

It's a kinda complex file so I'll look at it a bit to confirm

[west schooner]

it'd be like how weakspot dmg works except in reverse

[fading vale]

it was more a question of if it scaled the weakspot portion of stagger

[ripe quest]

Fatshark really made this as complex as possible

[fading vale]

instead of all the stagger

[west schooner]

ye like how weakspot dmg works

[fading vale]

yeah the code gets pretty obscure

[west schooner]

which i still do not understand why

[ripe quest]

It's safe to assume it's not similar to how +finesse damage works.

[visual stream]

The funny thing about this is that the random brainburst talent has a cooldown now

[west schooner]

it always had one

even back then before talent tree update it had one

[ripe quest]

Though it might also not be a proper +50%.

[visual stream]

Ohh, never played psyker pre-14 because they were boring so I didn't know 😭

[fading vale]

hmm is it additive to the total instead then?

[west schooner]

u wouldnt want purge staff to be just be randomly popping a few dozen heads in a horde during every volley

but yea, exactly, it had a cooldown to begin with, idk what they were so worried about

[ornate bone]

Oh, I understand it now

The worry was about it working like crit and weakspot damage

Increasing the bonus instead of the total

[west schooner]

if anything, brainburst is very impractical rn anyways, would be nice if there's more uses to it

besides just brainburst EP

[fading vale]

ye

[ornate bone]

I want to say it doesn't

[fading vale]

according to what exhil has seen it's "normal"

[west schooner]

knowing fatshark, u can never be sure

[ornate bone]

We do have a mod that shows stagger, I think

[fading vale]

there's also the question of if it multiplies with power I guess

or if it just adds 50% base stagger or something

[ornate bone]

I assume base

[west schooner]

shotgun with random brainburst would be pretty based, im reminded of my cravings that i'll never get to satisfy

[fading vale]

impact typically multiplies against power

[ornate bone]

Otherwise we get funny positive multiplications

Fatshark doesn't like that

[fading vale]

imagine a world where psykers actually had unique gun interactions

[polar nexus]

ok so sustained to surgical and wp to?

[ornate bone]

Not my world

[fading vale]

no clue what the perk BPs are on helbores

[ornate bone]

You get kinetic flayer or get fucked

[polar nexus]

no idea either

[west schooner]

yea, would be nice to have a real gunker build that's not assail gun psyker

[polar nexus]

i will ask vet chat then

[west schooner]

assail gun force sword psyker is literally just a game of rock paper scissors

assail for horde, gun for lone elites, sword for crushers

[ripe quest]

On paper it's a 50% increase to that stagger multiplier. I don't know if Fatshark has some goober math going on though that would change it is all. It's safe to assume that it works as listed.

[west schooner]

strictly speaking, not exactly right, ik, but not exactly wrong either

[fading vale]

cool

[ripe quest]

It would be really funny if it was a parallel to the finesse calc stuff

[fading vale]

it's fun how the small pokey weapon is basically a miniature hammer

[ornate bone]

All thanks to rending

[ripe quest]

If I had a nickel for the number of times Fatshark remade the Thammer but with a stabby stick I'd have two nickels

[fading vale]

yeah I was mostly just curious about that too

[ornate bone]

I wouldn't be opposed to uncanny turning into handcannon

[fading vale]

uncanny is just silly as is

[ornate bone]

I mean in the sense that at least handcanno needs you to crit

Uncanny just carries your light spam to the next level

[west schooner]

uh, not really ideal and it would kill most uncanny weapons no?

[fading vale]

but what if, get this, WHAT IF, we also gave it a blessing that guarantees crit

[ripe quest]

Rending is a bit goofy as is. Just about every Rending bonus that we can get is impactful.

Like really impactful

[west schooner]

wow, like bloodthristy?

[ornate bone]

Make executor give 20% crit chance per hit

[fading vale]

(surgical)

[ripe quest]

Holy shit guys you guys made a force sword

NO WAY

crazy

[west schooner]

how will u make surgical work on melee weapons

[fading vale]

I was referencing hand cannon

[ornate bone]

Making another blessing wacky

[fading vale]

but you would make a thrust blessing that does crit for melee

[west schooner]

i mean i thought we were talking about uncanny turning into handcannon for melee

[ornate bone]

Imagine true aim but for melee

[west schooner]

and only have it guarantee rending on melee crit

[fading vale]

yes and I was memeing about the state of hand cannon on revolver

[ripe quest]

Deimos getting Uncanny + Bloodthirsty/Shred/Riposte

totally normal

[ornate bone]

Zealot deimos

Duelist gaminf

[fading vale]

I like how deimos special is absofuckinglutely useless and not even unique, pretty dope design

[ornate bone]

G

Bro imagine

Ds4 with duelist

[lone pecan]

I hate her

[west schooner]

turn obscurus special into a range blast

[west schooner]

we love to see it, hadron bricking your shxt

[ripe quest]

I think knife would outscale DS with Duellist

[fading vale]

yo dawg I heard you like terrifying barrage for the 100th time

[ripe quest]

A lot of finesse weapons kinda go nuts with Duellist

[west schooner]

literally the point of duelist no?

[ripe quest]

mhm

[west schooner]

i mean its 50% weakspot and crit dmg

like holy shxt that's a lot

[ripe quest]

and 100% critical weakspot damage

[lone pecan]

Hadron is a chaos god

[ornate bone]

American people be like

Lirerary

[ripe quest]

On knife that's like a 70% damage increase

[frank night]

[ripe quest]

actually insane

[fading vale]

remember when a crit weakspot on revolver did less damage to some enemies than a crit

fun times

[west schooner]

also, heard that deimos special action stacks multiple uncanny on weakspot hit

[ornate bone]

I do

[royal vortex]

when revolver was GOOD

they ruined it

[ornate bone]

Man, did I whine about revolver

[ripe quest]

Oh dude those were the times back when Flamer was still good

[royal vortex]

true

[ripe quest]

The meta was in such shambles

[ornate bone]

I remember also making it hit bodyshot breakpoints with warp charges and finding out I couldn't one-hit the arms

[fading vale]

all our whining made revolver the most broken weapon in the game

[ripe quest]

It's so funny that the weapons people whined about the most are now super meta

[west schooner]

i still remember my first revolver damnation run

[ripe quest]

Dclaw, Chainsword, Revolver, Crusher

[west schooner]

was using some sort of gun psyker revolver abomination

[ripe quest]

Dclaw's early absurdities when it got buffed

[west schooner]

was before talent tree got reworked too,

[fading vale]

I still don't understand why everyone suddenly stopped using chainsword after a fake nerf

[ripe quest]

Makes the game too easy when you have Zealot's best melee horde clear

[ornate bone]

I think people just realized the weapon kind of isn't fun

You stack just a bit of attack speed and don't see it anymore

[fading vale]

I guess it's not brainlet m1 spam enough

[ornate bone]

The sawing is boring

[ripe quest]

Well, the Mk IV does way better with heavies and the Mk XIIIg is like 3 lights and a heavy

[ornate bone]

So you get a weapon that has an animation too fast to see and a special that is boring

[fading vale]

ok but counterpoint

people adore the rashad

which is literally the most braindead thing ever

[ornate bone]

The rashad is a fighter class

It's the easiest thing, but tickles the right part of the brain

[fading vale]

how could you use a rashad and not think it's super boring

does not compute

[west schooner]

probs cuz rashad doesnt have as much cleave

[ripe quest]

Those two Caxe's are a good bit boring

[ornate bone]

I think it helps that it's chonky but not exaggerated

The chainsword is a fucking drama each swing

[west schooner]

u kill things fast, but not as fast as a chainsword

[ornate bone]

The rashad is just a thud

[sterile stone]

You gotta name your weapon Thickimus Maximus

[west schooner]

Biggus Dickus

[fading vale]

rashad kills things faster than basically every other weapon, in a general sense

[ornate bone]

And like

[fading vale]

light spam is the answer to 90% of the game

[light holly]

Well

Yeah

You just gotta cook it right

[west schooner]

my issue with the chainsword is that it doesnt kill ragers fast enough

[ripe quest]

Rashad is oddly a really good generalist. Some of the more niche stuff will outcompete it in each category.

[blazing fossil]

The Rashad gets things done

[ornate bone]

You do lights for hordes and some enemies, heavies when the lights don't work and the special staggers what the lights and heavies don't

[west schooner]

especially in higher difficulties

where there's packs of ragers

[ornate bone]

Straightforward, effective and not exaggerated

[light holly]

Barely need to special too, just overhead everything else

[ornate bone]

It's the human fighter of melee weapons

[potent flare]

would a shotgun be a good weapon to keep on me? im relatively new to the game and new to zealot so im not sure which direction to go

[fading vale]

heavies are basically only for crushers and I guess unyielding but other than that is always lights

[blazing fossil]

Rashad you only use heavies on carapace

[light holly]

Well heavies for maulers too

Don't need to hit flak when you can overhead on maulers

[fading vale]

kant shotgun is one of the most favored general zealot ranged options

[west schooner]

technically anything that's flak can be overheaded too

[native cargo]

kant is bae

but the old revolver is also bae

[west schooner]

especially if u can hit the breakpoint

[ripe quest]

Early on you can use any weapon, Shotguns are great. The Kant is very fun and high damage, Lawby and Agri require a bit of setup to get them going.

[blazing fossil]

Kant only good for alt fire

[light holly]

There's not alot that's flak, besides scab gunners and scab ragers

[fading vale]

but it's lower DPS and won't proc BM well so who cares

[spare talon]

AAAAAAAHHHHHHH

[fading vale]

the overhead doesn't even do that much more to flak

[ornate bone]

Suck it

[west schooner]

it does as long as u weakspot, its just not a range big enough to hit others with the ignore-hitmass easily

[native cargo]

lovely names

[ornate bone]

Use your knife build, Cole

[spare talon]

they all left

[native cargo]

lmao

[ornate bone]

You didn't pull your knife build

Pillock

[light holly]

I just think Cara is better all in all

[native cargo]

They wanted an all knife run

[spare talon]

the two people that joined in were also using knives

[ripe quest]

That 2nd one is running a normal Zealot build and the 4th one has a Flamer, you might be ok

[fading vale]

IIRC the light even used to do more to flak than heavy on caxes

[west schooner]

yes that's true

[fading vale]

or the difference was tiny, and it's still marginal which is dumb

[west schooner]

people use the light more just cuz its braindead spam especially when running marty or momentum

[fading vale]

not to mention the lights STILL do like 2x damage of a heavy to maniac

like what the fuck is this still a thing for

[blazing fossil]

It’s also more effective against anything non carapace.

[light holly]

Well I mean BM helps you reach some breakpoints

Its also what enables rashad to go from like

Bad horde clear to insane

[west schooner]

its the only thing carrying combat axes

[ornate bone]

Lights dealing more maniac is as stupid as chain weapon lights dealing the same or better damage to flak as heavies

[fading vale]

in what world should a caxe light 2 shot mutants

[proper glade]

Ah, the Ecclisiarchy allows for many hairstyles, such as

[light holly]

Kinda based tbh

[west schooner]

where if u crit weakspot ig

[native cargo]

In a world where we are at our darkest moment

[native cargo]

mine glitched out like that as well

was gold

[blazing fossil]

A HS6 can 1 shot muties with a heavy so…..

[fading vale]

no you don't even need crits, just get buffs up and go brrr

[ripe quest]

They should really make like, a special > heavy combo the goto for Maniac.

[light holly]

I mean heavy sword just 1 taps mutants in the head doesn't it

Maybe with the crit

[fading vale]

which is also stupid yes

[light holly]

Most definitely with a crit

[fading vale]

caxe and hsword are 2 of the dumbest weapons

[light holly]

So fun

[blazing fossil]

lol my fav weapons

[light holly]

But heavy sword seemingly struggles with crusher

[native cargo]

The imperium is also at its darkest moment so we can't take small measures

[proper glade]

There are no hairstyles in basingse

[light holly]

Rashad also just 3 taps them

[native cargo]

We must one shot the mutant

[fading vale]

but also mutants need to be more resistant to melee again

cause they are paper

[light holly]

Eh

I mean

[ripe quest]

A lot of why Caxe is so dumb is that 80% of the time lights are the solution, gotta make some cool combos for it n whatnot

[light holly]

Naw I disagree

Theyre are melee based brusiers

[fading vale]

plethora of weapons 1 shotting them is stupid

[light holly]

Guns tear them or theyre mega tanky

Melee imo should be the preferred method

[west schooner]

i play taxes lately

[native cargo]

Kinda wish when I revved into a mutant as its charging by me with a chain weapon I'd get dragged along with it

like on its back

or something

[light holly]

I kinda wished they were like chargers in l4d

[native cargo]

instead of the goofy continual revving from a distance

[light holly]

If they charge someone they'll push everyone aside

(The bridge incident)

[native cargo]

Well. They do push everything aside. At least from my experience

I've been saved three times by a mutant pushing over a trapper

[blazing fossil]

Literal heresy

[native cargo]

that was boutta trap me

[ripe quest]

Stuff like that for specials would be cool if they were a bit more dynamic and less swarm-y. A mutant basically being a small Plague Ogryn that tries to slam people keeps the idea and makes it less DPS check reliant

[fading vale]

I just want my days back of being hammer 1 shot mutie man

[ripe quest]

I've always loved the idea of hounds being in patrols n shit where they are actually leashed and if you set the patrol off they go after you

[fading vale]

cause now everyone else does it for free

and it feels bad

[west schooner]

rok

[native cargo]

I understand that

Oh speaking of hammer lazorr

[fading vale]

fucking dueling sword 1 shots muties

[native cargo]

I found a thammer user that doesn't charge up their hammers on anything

[ornate bone]

I still want a game mode where everyone gets a thunder hammer and tries to rocket the dog mid-pounce

[fading vale]

pain

[native cargo]

it was two matches ago and they missed so many doorway mutants

its

insane

[ripe quest]

I think like every melee weapon can 1-2 shot Mutants yeah

[native cargo]

I don't mean like them coming outta spawn I mean them running through a door and you do a silly prank on em

I felt pain

[fading vale]

they changed the mutie melee modifier to what, 3x?

[sharp zodiac]

Skill issue

[west schooner]

i thought it was quadrupled

[frank night]

FRANCE

[fading vale]

it might be 4x I can't remember, I know they buffed it though

[native cargo]

I've got it down to where I can 50/50 chance it on a hound. right when it pounces I hit it with the crusher heavy 1 lmao

[native cargo]

FRANCH

get back in the tummy

[sharp zodiac]

Rat and Monkey

[native cargo]

but yeah I get what you mean lazorr. I've been using hsword and for the most part its been pretty no brain. Its enjoyable to use since its just funny to see deathblow proc and see all these poxwalkers die to just one well places swing

[west schooner]

mercy killer + uncanny strike knife

[native cargo]

but at the same time idk if it should be hitting mutants with a one shot without chastise

[fading vale]

BM and deathblow are just

nearly impossible to balance

and the funny part is they gave hsword inherent 2 primary targets on heavies anyways

[light holly]

Well its easy you can break it by reducing BM weakpoint damahe

[west schooner]

petition to remove bm and deathblow

[ornate bone]

Giving headshot conditions on a PvE game is the definition of generosity

[light holly]

Without BM combat axes are garbage

[blazing fossil]

Yea lol

[ornate bone]

Or was until Killing Floor 2 developed zombie olympics

[spare dome]

caxes with ht deci are pretty fun imo

[ornate bone]

Every twat there does a backflip

[spare dome]

you just clonk off heads one or two at a time

[light holly]

Yeah fun for single target

[fading vale]

you can't balance a caxe as long as current BM exists either

[light holly]

You have 0 cleave

[spare dome]

its meditative

[ripe quest]

One of my favorite builds for a bit was that and a Flamer.

[spare dome]

nah antax can get appreciable cleave

[ripe quest]

Ran the knight armor

[spare dome]

relative to 0 ofc

[light holly]

2 cleave

[west schooner]

only the push atk bro

the 2 cleave only applies to like, poxwalkers n groaners or something

[ornate bone]

Guys wouldn t it be cool if brutal momentum gave you seconds of mass ignore

[ripe quest]

All three rely on the PA for cleave

[west schooner]

wow bro, old bm?

[ripe quest]

Antax has like 1.8 compared to the usual 1.5

[fading vale]

0.3 cleave for a whole weapon stat is kinda busted

[ornate bone]

quick question lads, sorry to interrupt

[ripe quest]

Horde clear through Bulwark shields was goated

[ornate bone]

is this knife worth doing anything with

[light holly]

Which is bad because scab bruisers are a BP rashad needs to meet

[ornate bone]

Good perks, poor penetration

[west schooner]

lacerate to uncanny/ruthless backstab

[ripe quest]

Probs just swap blessings

[light holly]

If you can only cleave 2 groaners or pox walkers

You can only cleave 1 scab brusier

[ornate bone]

even with low pen?

I'd swap to uncanny and flesh tearer

[fading vale]

pen too low and blessings not good

[west schooner]

no flesh tearer

[ripe quest]

Uncanny increases your ADMs, won't be terrible.

[fading vale]

but you could swap both blessings and make up for low pen

[ornate bone]

Stacking uncanny allows you to still do something at least

[west schooner]

listen if u wanna bleed on crit, might as well just run scourge

get uncanny mercy killer

and run a crit build

[native cargo]

b l e e d

[ornate bone]

think i'll just make another one, was lucky enough to ge this as a random drop anyway so

[fading vale]

uncanny precog is gonna be way better than mercy killer

[light holly]

I see zealot is still divided on bleed builds

[west schooner]

precog is kinda annoying to proc

[native cargo]

bleed more like

lmao

[ornate bone]

I don't like precog, so I run flesh tearer to get a lot of bleed with the crits

But precog is statistically great

[fading vale]

mercy will never apply to the first hit anyways and you want to 1 shot as much as you can, but yes if you want bleed then run flesh tearer

[ornate bone]

I just don't care for dodges

Mercy killer is basically a vet blessing

Good there too

[fading vale]

I'd rather riposte or executor over mercy

[west schooner]

maybe not over executor

i find myself somehow missing weakspots every now and then for no reason whatsoever

[ornate bone]

I wish executor wasn't clunky

Yeah

[west schooner]

could've been cuz my vet's too fking short

[ornate bone]

Sometimes the hitbox kinda shits the bed

Or idk

Or the hitreg too

[west schooner]

just hitbox

[ornate bone]

Melee hitreg failing is dreadful

[fading vale]

what are the current conditions to drop executor cause I know part of it was fixed

[west schooner]

sometimes my knife weakspots crushers in the psykhanium from the back

[ornate bone]

Lazor would know with his hammer

[native cargo]

got spawnned into a cursed match

[west schooner]

and it doesnt look like it should weakspot

[ornate bone]

I think that it's actually just bodyshots

[native cargo]

legit dropped into a small room with the Atoman Snail with a zealot trying to fight it

and

[ornate bone]

I vaguely remember missing and not losing it

[native cargo]

I just lmao'd and left

[west schooner]

any none weakspot hits will drop executor

[west schooner]

i dont really like it

[ornate bone]

Which was actually the reason I started advocating for executor months before

[west schooner]

cool chainsword

[ornate bone]

I might or might not have been one of the first people to notice it

[west schooner]

i would like it if u can keep the stacks up even on bodyshot

[ornate bone]

Same

[west schooner]

as in it doesnt just drop completely, just dont refresh duration

[ornate bone]

I wanted it to be uncanny strike but for power

[west schooner]

exactly

[ornate bone]

AKA headshot headtaker

AKA exquisite huntress

I'm on a VT2 roll today

Except huntress stacked to 100%

Blessed be shade

[west schooner]

dont play vt2 sadly, idk what the fk those are

[ornate bone]

Exquisite huntress gave you 10% headshot per headshot up to 10 stacks

[west schooner]

wow that sounds, stupid

[ripe quest]

If you miss a weakspot hit. Before any external damage would drop it, stuff like Scourge or fire.

[gray ice]

I wanna try uncanny/executor, but it'll probably feel pretty similar overall. It also means I'd have to use knife again

[sharp zodiac]

Found another french one

[gray ice]

eww ship it back

[proper glade]

My sibbling in emperor what the fuck is going on with your revolver

[sharp zodiac]

Elongate

[proper glade]

E x t e n d

Really tho, id like to see a flamer with either mag directly to reserves or a double, maybe even triple, mag

A proper flamestorm

Same as that i want a proper godwyn deaz boltgun, with one of them funny extended or box mags

[ornate bone]

It was the meta, but it did have the benefit of making the headshots better the more the player headshot, which meant they snowballed on a somewhat skill-based check

[north sedge]

yes certainly need a broken flamer

[proper glade]

let me just pull the trigger

allow me to let RIP

[glacial stratus]

Can someone pls help me with the HM twins?

[proper glade]

Or yknow, let us modify our guns

[gray ice]

just lemme put a sight on helbores PLS

[north sedge]

No

[gray ice]

pls Señor Dough

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-spider-man-no-thanks-nope-nah-gif-17278765

[gray ice]

won't you use your discord influence

[sharp zodiac]

Hold him gunpoint, that usually works

[ornate bone]

Who would win: Señor Dougo or Luna she they fr

Vote for the next zealot chat president

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-sea-lion-explode-explosion-scream-gif-25321526

[ornate bone]

I wasn't asking

You will partake in democracy or get arrested

[faint marsh]

i’ve seen luna before so she gets my vote

[ripe quest]

Eat pants.

[ocean pebble]

Everyday I regret more and more not making a good pc

[next flare]

Do it

[ornate bone]

Lmao he didn't remove the scope effect

Nerddddd

[ocean pebble]

I’ve got one but can only run shit from like ten years ago or indie games lol

[ornate bone]

I stopped using scope because ping made the zoom jerk around and it gave me a headache

I just use the IAG ironsights on everything now

[gray ice]

I got tired of updating this shit and having it crash my game all the time or produce random errors

[ornate bone]

Yeah, it gets annoying sometimes

[gray ice]

most of my mods are just simple shit now

[ripe quest]

It stopped crashing like 3 months ago

get with the times old man

[gray ice]

no

[ornate bone]

I wonder if someone could make a scope-only version

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/you-kids-get-off-my-lawn-cranky-old-man-suburbia-americana-gif-14239371

[faint marsh]

not the furry skeleton again

why does he look like that one old man from the suffering meme

[gray ice]

There's no stopping it

[versed sinew]

what is stopping power on a shotgun?

[gray ice]

Inspect it and hover the stat

[versed sinew]

knockback?

[gray ice]

Tells you all the things

[versed sinew]

ah yeah i keep forgetting about that

ty

[gray ice]

Npnp

[faint marsh]

it’s all i can see

[gray ice]

Oh harold

[fiery ingot]

on harold

[versed sinew]

rather know how to find a thing than be told the thing, so for real ty

[gray ice]

Yuhh, np mane. Lotta obscure stuff in the game good to know where to find some of it

[gray ice]

What is that even from

[sturdy knoll]

what should I do next? just put on Bowel Movement

[gray ice]

Das it

[native cargo]

furry skeleton reveal

[gray ice]

Save the other change

[native cargo]

I knew furries have fur on their bones

[sturdy knoll]

can confirm

[north sedge]

It was made by a performance artist i like

[gray ice]

You could switch to headtaker if you don't like deci dropping stacks, that's about it really

[sturdy knoll]

was considering it. probably don't need an entire extra 50% since it usually never gets past 5-6 stacks

[spare talon]

hmmm
do i continue rocking the hard mode insignia with the special conditions border
or do i go full noobcore and run a sedition/malice border with the 1 seal insignia

[ornate bone]

Gaslight people

Level 30 frame and class insignia

[north sedge]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CYqA8C7hs9j/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

bridget.moser

Likes

1105

Instagram

[ornate bone]

Oh

[fiery ingot]

class insignia will be a flex over the people that just got 30 tbh

[ornate bone]

Oh yeah, true

[spare talon]

wear the noobcore and comment every now and again "hey this difficulty isnt so hard"

[fiery ingot]

get the 1 seal insignia

[spare talon]

on damn or auric damn

[fiery ingot]

auric maelstrom

get the homeless clothes on

[north sedge]

Also the furry skeleton freaks out stan alot so i keep posting it

[native cargo]

does the special heavy combo work for crushers on the rashad

am slowly expanding my knowledge beyond the crusher weapon

[ornate bone]

Special deals shit damage last I checked

It's heavy all the way

[fading vale]

did you see him forget about peanut butter eggs this morning

[north sedge]

I may have missed that

But he got that memento disease so

[royal vortex]

too busy spreading his plague to children

[native cargo]

does it stagger them? Just straight up heavies

[gray ice]

You stagger crushers with just heavy spam anyway

[native cargo]

nvm question answered

fanksss

[fading vale]

#zealot-class message

[gray ice]

You can use special to stagger a rager nicely

[native cargo]

JUMBALAYA

[mental eagle]

Whats the main difference in purpose between the thunder hammer 4 and 2, other then different lights and the fact the thunder hammer 2's charged heavy doesnt cleave it seems like 4 is better no? Even does pretty comparable boss dmg

[north sedge]

Beautiful

[gray ice]

Ironhelm has 25% less special dmg due to the cleave

[mental eagle]

Gotcha

[gray ice]

So crucis hits harder

[mental eagle]

Crucis is just so hard to justify in auric cause it just feels like im pushing my food around

And its so slow

[north sedge]

🤔

[gray ice]

I think ur doing something slightly wrong with it

[north sedge]

You can do perfectly fine with it there

[gray ice]

Flak cleave got fixed and cleave profiles were buffed, so crucis has very respectable horde clear and nukes heavy units

[ornate bone]

They did some funny buffs on thunder hammers so they stopped being ass outside of the special

[gray ice]

Crucis is solid as. You may need practice and gametime with it

[mental eagle]

Am i doing something wrong? Without backstab, with my crucis with thrust it takes 2 charged heavies plus one charged light to take out a crusher

Feels like it takes ages

[fading vale]

crucis should never take more the 2 heavy specials to kill a crusher

[gray ice]

Hmm gotta see hammer and build, crusher should be a two shot with crucis

[fading vale]

and it's 1 with chastise

[mental eagle]

Oh im running the boss backstab stealth hammer

[ornate bone]

Team Fortress 2 spy

[mental eagle]

Lol

[gray ice]

That's a funny meme type loadout where you're really good at 1 particular thing, but if you want consistency you should use chastise

[mental eagle]

Gotcha, whoops

[ornate bone]

Post tree or perish

[gray ice]

Not literally meme, bad wording. It doesn't really play to all the strengths of hammer

[latent summit]

1 million ordo later and only 2 useable bases to put in the hadron slot machine 😩

[gray ice]

It really pumps the single target every so often so you can nuke a target like a boss, but chastise let's you do that far more consistently and be good against other stuff as well

[fading vale]

don't take momentum toughness, is bad

[mental eagle]

hammer could be better needs that 2 hit crusher bp bad

[ornate bone]

I would uh

[fading vale]

either wait til you find thrust 4 or replace crit damage with flak

[ornate bone]

Remove momentum toughness and heavy kill toughness to get TWBS

[sharp zodiac]

Greater than any US election

[ornate bone]

Because hammer getting staggered out of attacks stings the soul and causes men to spite the gods

[mental eagle]

oh yea good point that sucks

[ornate bone]

If you don't care for TWBS you can also change momentum toughness to pious cutthroat

[fading vale]

you don't need swift either but without chastise I guess it kinda helps

[ornate bone]

Could also get rid of the ability toughness regen because it won't proc much without the funny CDR

Specially with perfectionist doubling the cooldown

[sharp zodiac]

Can my vet stop hogging all the 17% toughness curios

She doesn't need 3 of them

[fading vale]

I wouldn't drop toughness on heavy kill, no other solid source of toughness regen

[ornate bone]

Fair

Crucis heavies a lot

[mental eagle]

i would like advice on one other unrelated front, so i remember back in 1.0ish zealot had this crit build with the tac axe they let you play really aggressively and you were really tanky, is it possible to recreate this to some degree, is brutal momentum tac axe still a the go to? or is it like headtaker/shred like ive been seeing around on various tac axes

[sharp zodiac]

I doubt it

[ornate bone]

I'm tempted to say I would cut the middle start at the unyielding damage and grab the stun grenade

[fading vale]

we don't really recommend using the taxe anymore, not in it's current form

[mental eagle]

i stopped playing around when they nerfed brutal momentum so im unsure what the nerfs actually entail and if its worth it anymore

[ornate bone]

Saves a couple points

[fading vale]

BM was mostly buffed but for taxe it was a nerf I suppose

[gray ice]

BM was changed, not nerfed, it's actually stronger now than it was then

[fleet zealot]

stronger vs elites

weaker vs hordes iirc

[ornate bone]

BM taxe lights used to be funny

[mental eagle]

ah i see, i am assuming people use heavy sword now? im seeing buzz with that and chain axes

[ornate bone]

Now they aren't

[fleet zealot]

people use everything but taxe

it's that bad

[light holly]

Huh?

Hsword is still gooood

[fading vale]

people use everything except taxe, caxe and hsword being the strongest least thinking weapons

[light holly]

Tacaxes are... okay from what I remember Azrael saying before

They're like if you took a rashad and now you gotta work harder to get a similar result with

It's also slower

[faint marsh]

i like taxe but only when i’m like memeing. when i’m actually tryharding at the game i use knife

[mental eagle]

yea thats what i mean im hearing alot of talk of heavy swords now, being that its quite effective

[gray ice]

tac axe is like a little above knife imo

you get slightly more output from a similar amount of effort required

[fading vale]

hsword is one of the more OP weapons

[faint marsh]

taxe atrox 2 has a fun attack pattern and sometimes you get stagger

[mental eagle]

all i remember back then is being able to just dash in spam light and almost never die lol, that was a fun time

[faint marsh]

it’s just not like dependable

[light holly]

I think it's

Appropriately balanced

[faint marsh]

more for fun imho

[light holly]

At least vs crushers

Very good for everything squishy

Which... is everything,...

[fading vale]

well, chastise exists so you just delete crushers with ranged anyways

[faint marsh]

knife can just be a lot more effective than taxe can be at its cap. when i’m feeling like a challenge or like messing around on lower difficulties taxe grants that

[light holly]

well sure

But that's a weakness

[fading vale]

it's at least a real weakness sure

[faint marsh]

i’ve had 1600 dps from light attacks on knife and can only ever get the dps to like 1100 max on taxe, just for number comparison

[fading vale]

knife is going to 1 shot way more and also delete crushers

[faint marsh]

knife seems to be the meta for tryharding rn, for a good time in gameplay it seems to be evis that dominates

[minor sage]

light attacks are super low damage tho

on knife

so you should be able to get way more if you're using the right moves

[fading vale]

idk if I would call knife meta in any way but it's fine if you know how to use it and have the right setup

will never compare to the actual meta weapons

[median crow]

nifty or nah?

[light holly]

Well that's the thing with the knife struggles on hordes

Very annoying

[faint marsh]

yeah the knife can be way more useful but just using light spam as a metric is good for people learning a weapon

[light holly]

Even with the Mk3

[minor sage]

sadly 7 has a bad attack pattern

i'd go for 2 or 4

[light holly]

But you feel very tactical

[faint marsh]

1600 dps is impressive on light attack with knives though that’s like a crusher down in 4 seconds max

so idk lol

of course it can be done with a 1 tap with another build

[minor sage]

you can do better than that though

if you're using push attack

the whole point of the knife is to be able to convert stamina into dps

and run fast

[ornate bone]

Is the push attack faster than chaining heavies?

[fading vale]

uh, the heavies are good

[faint marsh]

well like yeah but if you want knife to be balanced for things like hordeclear instead of single target dps

[fading vale]

and one of the lights has higher pen

[ornate bone]

Third

[minor sage]

the heavies are slow ye

the heavies are good but they're slow

[faint marsh]

block attacking is absolutely op but i mean it’s not always accessible in the exact knick of time, which is why maxing the light attack is so useful

anyways, knife is a constant argument here

there is no defined meta

[fiery ingot]

just go dclaw

dclaw feels like a knife but better

[fading vale]

meta melee is caxe and hsword, no disputing that

[ornate bone]

The world if dclaw could roll uncanny strike

[minor sage]

idk i think the ppl who only left click with knife are the knife zealots reddit complains about lol

the special is also quite good

[faint marsh]

do you play on aurics or just like below

[fiery ingot]

i wish

[minor sage]

no i only play on sedition

[fiery ingot]

i could have both uncanny and bromentum in one weapon

[faint marsh]

not very often you can get away with solely relying on block attacking on aurics like lol unless you’re not a melee main or you’re relying on someone else for cc

[ornate bone]

The heavy, push attack and special have all the same damage, to my knowledge

[fading vale]

can people just stop being like "LOL BRO DO YOU PLAY AURIC DAMNATION"

[light holly]

cough block eff

[light holly]

TRUUE

It's kinda

[minor sage]

umm what

[light holly]

Like wowie, the uh

[minor sage]

you kinda can lol

[faint marsh]

we’re being asked meta details lol

[light holly]

The density is higher in auric

[south folio]

so true none of us play on auric

[light holly]

That's realy gonna change the numbers....

[fiery ingot]

i assume everyone that comes up with an argument already plays it

otherwise they're trolling

[south folio]

we're all sedition players 😔

[light holly]

😌

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-slap-kat-slap-slap-cat-cate-gif-7906458944533086715

[fading vale]

nobody ever talks about anything other than the highest difficulty when we are talking about what is best or recommended

[ornate bone]

I will fuck you up

[light holly]

Play Auric
Depression
Play Sedition
Dopamine

[gray ice]

we're all malice larpers obviously

[light holly]

(Also elevator music)

[south folio]

whoa, 2 difficulties too high

[minor sage]

tbh I'm not a fan of knife on zealot

like it way more on vet/psyker

[faint marsh]

no kidding lol

[minor sage]

zealot melees are just too busted

to use a knife instead

[ornate bone]

Speaking of

[minor sage]

imagine using a knife

[light holly]

For the purpose of like min-maxing yeah, hit up Damnation, but Auric damn is just swinging it

[minor sage]

instead of a thammer

or a hs

[ornate bone]

If you rely on block attacks

[minor sage]

or a crusher

[fading vale]

knife is whatever but at least it's not hot garbage like it used to be

[minor sage]

or evis

[ornate bone]

You're doing the CC

[fading vale]

it's mostly just hot garbage cause the players using it

[light holly]

That's like aany sample size, Ideally you can run off (abit) but then you run back with your team

[ornate bone]

Knife is the TF2 spy

[light holly]

To steb somemore

[minor sage]

yeah you cc them by killing them

[ornate bone]

You pick something and you kill it

[minor sage]

cuz the knife push attack has like insane TTK

you literally kill everything in like 1 second

[ripe quest]

After looking into it I'm gonna have to say Chainsword is still on that list.

[fiery ingot]

most yt videos i watch of people going knife are the catachan one

the push attack does seem like it does a shit ton of dmg

[spare talon]

both are catachan

but you prolly mean the 3

[ornate bone]

Pranked

[native cargo]

damn weather be making me lag just enough I'm messing up my crusher combos ah yes

love it

[fiery ingot]

mk3 push attack doesnt do more damage than h1 from my testing

[faint marsh]

well yeah knife gameplay is cc mixed with specialist deletion, where you rubberband between your team and threats that you’re dealing with. also good for being the person responsible for mat farming bc the same tactic can be applied to grab a mat instead of a special if there is none and you’re just moving through a quieter area

[ornate bone]

Ir doesn't

[fiery ingot]

sorry i meant 6

[ripe quest]

Like you know it's nuts when the Chainsword can keep up with Flamer numbers in a 50 benchmark

[spare talon]

ah

[minor sage]

i always thought catachan was a anime waifu named cata

so you call her cata-chan

[fading vale]

yeah chord clear is nutty

[faint marsh]

the 3 focuses more on special deletion and the other new knife focuses more on cc. great at neither but the point of it is mobility, to be in the right spots and dealing damage to appropriate targets at key times

[minor sage]

[faint marsh]

it’s hard to get used to

[fiery ingot]

[light holly]

No

[spare talon]

i thought it was weeaboo catacombs

[light holly]

Oh my god

Where is Cata-san

[minor sage]

catasama

[ornate bone]

Cadatchan

[fiery ingot]

cata-kun

[ornate bone]

Catasensei

[ripe quest]

To top it off it still has great ST and it's fast. It slows a bit against bosses which is like, the only thing I can say is it's main weakness.

[fiery ingot]

what's wrong cata-kun

[ornate bone]

Ara ara stealth zealot kun

[still quartz]

Arrive in Catachan jungles just to get eaten by a plant with affinity for people meat

[fiery ingot]

are you craving for these QUOA-SAN?

[light holly]

Sly Marbo - Sama ...

So Kawaii~

[faint marsh]

you guys have heard of stealth knife zealot. get ready for stealth bayonette vet. it’s all the same gameplay except you can’t block push or shoot

[ripe quest]

The appeal of the PA is that you can dish them out way faster than heavies.

[native cargo]

Degenerates like you guys belong in a venus mantrap

[ripe quest]

And it's just a tiny bit lower than heavy damage

[fading vale]

Rata-chan how could you say this

[ripe quest]

It might miss out on BPs because of that to be noted

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

[light holly]

Jealous Sly Marbo-Kun isn't looking at you uguuuu~

[fiery ingot]

yeah, but the newest one (mk6?) push attack seems like it does a shit ton of dmg. i havent tested it as i didnt really see a point in building a new knife when i have an almost god rolled mk3

[native cargo]

You are getting the brain leaf treatment

[minor sage]

laz-kun what's ur fav lasgun

[still quartz]

My poor skaven-brother

[minor sage]

is it the recon

[native cargo]

you are getting the stranglevine treatment

[light holly]

😌

[fading vale]

the one I shove up my ass cause they all suck ass on zealot

[light holly]

Finally a truth death

[native cargo]

Thats it

[ripe quest]

It does the same as the III's PA. The VI's H1 and 2 do the same as the PAs.

[native cargo]

I'm bringing the fucking jungle here

hold up

[fiery ingot]

ohh

thats good to know then

[minor sage]

3 and 6 are mainly just difference movesets

you can use whichever u prefer

[fiery ingot]

yeah ill stick with the 3 then

[minor sage]

you wont really build them differently

[fiery ingot]

knife is fun and all

but man i cant see the point of running it when i have dclaw

[fading vale]

Rata-senpai did we say something to upset you UwU

[minor sage]

dclaw is good

but it's much more defensive

knife is faster and more DEEPS

[native cargo]

I'm sending this and steve will have to fight it to save you

[faint marsh]

you can create a pseudo t6 if you and your friends all run knife and kite the entire map to where you hold out

[fiery ingot]

like dclaw has less atk speed so it crits less obviously but still, the parry does pretty much the same job as knife heavies/pa while it also has good horde clearing

[native cargo]

Steve is pretty powerful

but this should idk

confuse him

[ripe quest]

The VI has some differences with damage. It does less ST and the moves that are the same as the III are harder to access. The only outlier is the PA.

[fading vale]

nah Steve would just see it and then go

[minor sage]

the problem with dclaw is that

crushers are kinda annoying

[native cargo]

Excellent steve

also

fair

[minor sage]

because your base ADM is low against cara

[fiery ingot]

i confess im a little disappointed that his name is steve and not lazor, but im in love with steve

[minor sage]

and parrying crushers is v dangerous lol

[fiery ingot]

oh yeah thats truew

true

i just pull the boltor for that case but yeaj

[vocal spruce]

Oh zealots gods. Im trying to make the flamethrower work. Is it worth investing my hard earned diamantes in it

[spare talon]

but using other enemies to parry crushers is effective

[ripe quest]

It's not super hard to build one yeah

go for it

[spare talon]

just hold it up when no one is doing an overhead

[minor sage]

it's good but i recommend you start off with a revolver first if you dont have one

it'll be more applicable early on

[vocal spruce]

True

[minor sage]

as you make more builds

[vocal spruce]

Revolver do be satisfying af...

But pyromaniac within me needs that shiz

[native cargo]

I'm gonna put a great barking toad in this chat one day without anyone knowing

purge it clean

it will be great

[minor sage]

yeah but i mean even with the workarounds

that is a weakness of the weapon you have to solve with the rest of your kit

[ripe quest]

It's much harder to put a Revolver together than a Flamer, you get nearly the full brunt of the crafting system with it. Not a huge difference but it can be annoying early.

[fading vale]

but Steve is the best possible name for him

[vocal spruce]

welp run a few rounds and wastes all these hard earned dockets for a decent flamethrowmer

[native cargo]

hell yeah

the grindset as grendyl intended

[spare talon]

true, i still do use a revolver against them half the time

[ripe quest]

steb

[fiery ingot]

god i love steve

he's so fabulous

[native cargo]

Steve is very excellent

[fiery ingot]

sometimes i wish my cat would behave like a normal cat

but mf is 24/7 devil mode high on redbull

[sharp zodiac]

I could go for a RedBull

[royal vortex]

drugs

[fiery ingot]

i heard you're half british

[minor sage]

red bull is like

the most vile tasting

[fading vale]

I still laugh every time I watch this regardless of the comment

[minor sage]

out of all the energy drinks

IMO

why do ppl like it so much

[fiery ingot]

lmao

[fading vale]

a fellow chatter made that lol

[fiery ingot]

maybe because its trendy ig

[fading vale]

I mean why do people like knife so much

cause they do I guess

[fiery ingot]

i understand their questioning tho

i also get those "i cant wrap my head around this fact" moments

like how tf can people like helbores

or how tf can people like iphones

[fading vale]

tbf I did used to bring a case of redbull and a handle of Jaeger to most of the parties I went to in college

[prime ridge]

Krieg is how

[fading vale]

though I opted for monster when I was more budget friendly

[gray ice]

Only energy drinks I really do are the monster+juice line

[prime ridge]

I know its a baby plasma, that's just worse than the plasma, but I love my bayonet lasgun

[gray ice]

don't even like the regular monster line

red bull tastes like licking a car battery

[fading vale]

I always had to get the sugar free stuff cause my buddy is diabetic

[prime ridge]

Have you actually licked a car battery?

[gray ice]

Don't ask questions

[spare talon]

a few of the sugar free monsters are the only ones i can stand/afford (part time minimum wage worker lol)

[fiery ingot]

im now tempted to lick a car battery

[prime ridge]

The sunrise one is good, its caffeinated sunny D

[gray ice]

That tingling sensation when you do is god

[fiery ingot]

[fading vale]

I thought licking batteries would be way more common when I was like 6

[fiery ingot]

[prime ridge]

That's a 9volt, a car battery will sizzle slightly

[fading vale]

much like I thought dinosaurs were important

[fiery ingot]

tbf

i drank toilet water when i was 4

[prime ridge]

Disgusting

[fiery ingot]

i was 4

[prime ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/war-hammer-hammer-gif-25704599

[fiery ingot]

couldnt reach the sink

[prime ridge]

Begone nurgling

[south folio]

dum bith

[gray ice]

Cartoons really had me thinking quicksand was a serious problem in the streets

Thought everyone was gonna need anvil dodging classes

[prime ridge]

We call them dum dum around here

[south folio]

so true

[prime ridge]

Because they got repeatedly hit in the head

[fading vale]

right!? quicksand seemed like an important life skill to learn

[fiery ingot]

[fading vale]

and stop drop and roll, bitch I've never been on fire

[gray ice]

and D.A.R.E campaigns had me thinking I'd be walking down the street dodging shady people who were handing me free drugs

[fading vale]

lol

[gray ice]

naw turns out you gotta pay for those

[fading vale]

dare just makes you aware of drugs

and curious

[gray ice]

My dare talk went like this

they handed out 4 joins to pass around the students in the cafeteria so we could see what they looked like

When they got em back there were 3

[vocal spruce]

good god. the evisarator my beloved

[gray ice]

and we went on lockdown till the 4th got coughed up

[vocal spruce]

how did darktide made such a perfect weapon?

[fading vale]

the thing DT got right the most is animations and feedback

and sounds

[vocal spruce]

and CLEAVING

[minor sage]

it was my first game with staged reloads

and i think it was done amazingly well

[coral trellis]

New combat blade, what blessings are good with it?

[minor sage]

it adds a layer of complexity to reloading which i found fun to play around

[fading vale]

I've never played another game where I felt so much like.... it feels nice I guess

[ornate bone]

Staged reloads are neat

[fading vale]

I tried VT2 and was like wow this feels like shit compared to DT

[minor sage]

ye i cant play vt2 anymore either

[fading vale]

in terms of feedback to the player

[minor sage]

they've just improved on the formula

so much

i do wish javelins existed

in dt

[coral trellis]

Actually, play with the new knife now. Besides the attack animation and patttern, what the difference between the 2?

[fading vale]

new knife has some cleave on heavy

[royal vortex]

6 can't spam special punch -> light

[coral trellis]

mmm gotcha

[fading vale]

why is it so damn windy, a tree just fell in my backyard

[fiery ingot]

just lift it back up

[fading vale]

brb training to lift a few tons

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/saitama-onepunchman-onehundredpushups-workout-intense-gif-5760100

[fading vale]

when is the new season already

[fiery ingot]

exactly

wait we have seasons in dt now?

[fading vale]

no, one punch man

[fiery ingot]

ah lmao

[frozen glen]

cant wait for the darktide season pass

[fiery ingot]

it would be cool tho

if we had seasons

like drg does