zealot-class

[light holly]

Wait, if you're saying

Zealot has the best stamina regen, that means adding more isn't gonna hurt

[sharp zodiac]

You love this video too much you cactus toucher

[ripe quest]

That means adding more is going to be redundant.

[light holly]

Eh I won't argue

It won't be

Because unless you take 3

You won't have too many diminishing returns

I'd frankly argue taking 1 would be more than enough for the class with the best stamina regen in the game

[fading vale]

it doesn't do anything for you

[sharp zodiac]

Get 4 curios in the slots

[light holly]

So you don't get diminishing returns

[ripe quest]

Oh I mean stamina regen is a functional perk, it's coded properly. It doesn't come up though ingame, especially on Zealot.

[sharp zodiac]

Health health toughness toughness clearly

[light holly]

Does it? Because I mean making your stamina regen come up faster is like

Not bad

For any class frankly

Maybe it's worse on zealot

[ripe quest]

Why would you ever need that?

[light holly]

But it wouldn't say it's a bad perk

[ripe quest]

Specifically for Zealot here, why would you need it?

[light holly]

I mean blocking anything

[digital yacht]

these are my games, im bad at the game but +9 stamina is alright

[light holly]

Some weapons don't have alot of dodges like a knife

And ideally you don't spam dodges because you want to save them for God forbid anything

[ripe quest]

There is no way that's something you're arguing

[fading vale]

I've run hammer for 900 hours and have never once felt the need for stamina

[light holly]

I mean

[ripe quest]

Out of all of the weapons you pick a knife for that example?

What?

[light holly]

It is an angle

No I mean

I said besides the knife

[ripe quest]

Oh nvm, dyslexic

[north sedge]

What is push attack sah

[ripe quest]

I thought you were arguing that knife had bad dodges

[light holly]

No it has some of the best

Its why maybe you know stamina regen could be skipped on the knife

[ripe quest]

I can't think of any weapon Zealot has that would ever need stamina regen to play safe

[native cargo]

I'll touch your cactus

[light holly]

Well wait dclaw?
Parrying crushers

[ripe quest]

I think on like, some of the slower weapons I haven't ever gone beyond 50 sttacks blocked

[light holly]

Dclaw also utilizes push attacks to force out your overheads

[ripe quest]

If you're timing it properly you def don't need stam regen for Dclaw unless you're spamming parries into some ragers or a clump of a lot of elites

[north sedge]

I block like 4 times a game

[light holly]

Well wait yeah

[sharp zodiac]

That's someone else's job

[light holly]

Sometimes you do

[ripe quest]

And what will stamina regen do for you?

[native cargo]

well my squig already devoured you

[light holly]

Because rager clumps do happen and sometimes you need to parry

Cuts the stamina regen delay

[ripe quest]

In this hypothetical what would it offer

[light holly]

So you can get your stamina back faster

So you can Parry more

Or have stamina to push attack

[ripe quest]

You don't need stamina to PA

[maiden path]

sending telegrams to the crib

[light holly]

Someone's lying to me and I don't know who

[ripe quest]

it consumes it but you can PA at 0%

[light holly]

Wait yes

[polar nexus]

rules of engagement with ragers: 1 shoot 2 shoot 3 backdoge 4 shoot then parryu

[light holly]

That cuts into your parey

Also cuts into your block whenever you block but I guess you don't really need to block with dlcaw

[maiden path]

he's lying you need to get +3 wound curios and stack them 3 times

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

[light holly]

I mean for a marty build hell yeah

[fading vale]

also you can "perfect" parry and not take stam or minimal stam whatever it is

[maiden path]

yea

go get a headstart on them

[light holly]

Again

That's fine and dandy

It does help to have that cushion

[maiden path]

if you spend your credit things from the mandate guy u can get them easy

trust

[light holly]

Again I would maybe advocate for 1 stamina regen

[sharp zodiac]

Hmm minimal Stam

[digital yacht]

for the knife, doesnt PA do more than heavy swing?

[ripe quest]

no

[light holly]

But yeah sure you guys are right, iirc though I don't remeber but psykers might have the best stamina regen delay speed

But I'll need to confirm that

[ripe quest]

It can dish out damage faster so it's preferred on the III, not sure about the VI

[light holly]

Take 1 and you could get enough bring out stamina back as fast as a psyker

[ripe quest]

But once again you don't need stamina to spam PAs

[fading vale]

1 stam on psyker or vet is generally the only case we agree with

cause having 2 stam sucks

[maiden path]

no

stack stams.

[light holly]

Wait no, I would go for 1 stamina on vet or psyker sure

I would advocate for higher stamina regen on vet though

[polar nexus]

and on psyker it depends on your weapon and if you use kd

[light holly]

Because and I looked it up vets have the slowest stam delay speed

[sharp zodiac]

Dueling sword is just two and it's pain

But like

[fading vale]

yes vet stam is bad

[light holly]

Sure

[polar nexus]

that is good for vet?

[light holly]

I'll agree as much

[polar nexus]

ah sorry

it's on my psyker

[light holly]

Its on your psyker, asking vets in zealot chat

Let's goooo

[ripe quest]

Wait Parrying ragers is like half a stamina there's no way you need Stamina Regen before any manageable group of Ragers is dead

[polar nexus]

zealot chat is best generalist chat

[light holly]

Well, for a group

It can go away really fast

[polar nexus]

most of us play multple classes

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-5503484

[light holly]

And its not bad to Parry a crusher

And get your stamina back that much faster for whatever

[polar nexus]

i thrust lazorr more on vet than 99% of vet chat

[ripe quest]

So far you've only pointed out that stamina is used for parrying and it caps out at 2 stamina used per parry with Overheads and certain boss attacks

[patent elk]

for the eciscerator XV vs Mk 2, its up to preference right?

[light holly]

Well all I can say is, I've blocked a chaos spawn who was slapping me in a corner with my (Maybe scuffed) stamina regen

And I didn't lose block, because stamina came back so quickly

In-between attacks

[ripe quest]

The Mk II covers crowds better and the XV is better for single target.

[ripe quest]

I mean if it's just 1 enemy like a CS you can block on 0 stamina regardless

[light holly]

That'll break your block, I mean oh my god this goes into block efficiency now, I'm not going back

[light holly]

Yes but it'll break your guard

[ripe quest]

You can time block inputs to keep blocking

[light holly]

Which I guess doesn't really matter

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-gif-1630712686706559038

BLOOOOOD

[ripe quest]

From what I can see with Dclaw and only Dclaw it provides like, minor parrying utility since you can spam them with shorter breaks. This is assuming that you're only spamming parries too.

[light holly]

Damn I wish I was into spread sheets and math to test it

[ripe quest]

I'm not even using spreadsheets I'm just testing this ingame

[light holly]

its not that bad 🥹

Or maybe it is

Like what else are you using

[ripe quest]

For curio perks I usually just use Toughness, 2x Gunner, 2x Sniper, and depending on if I'm soloing or not +Ordos or +Health

Currently debating TRS

[light holly]

Hmm *nod

I mean yeah thats good

Maayybe I'm over hyping stamina regen abiiiiit better options floating around

[native cargo]

I can't be fucked to become one with the curio farm

So I just have like

3 curios lmao

[light holly]

Curio farm ain't bad

*unless you're hitting those 79's

[native cargo]

I can't spam them like the weapons in brunts so its something I forget

and can't be doodled to go over to melk and sniff his aroma

[ripe quest]

At the very least you have experience with more than just the meta. Gives you a better eye for what's good and what isn't.

[native cargo]

I use stam regen because I'ma crusher user

very useful yes yes

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

[light holly]

Is it all Push attacks?

What the

[ripe quest]

It uses almost every move in it's attack list, including the PA.

It's a good setup for stuff

[gray ice]

you do push attack a lot yes

[light holly]

Oh sweet

[gray ice]

I might go do some crusher games

[native cargo]

Its a lovely weapon that is combo heavy so if I start getting into the zone I'll just become one with god

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767160217804210180/1070506159443812382/caption-4.gif

Vin why are you using the meta

I thought I could trust you

[sterile stone]

Mans wants to be mvp under performer

Dang

[gray ice]

there gotta be something ANYTHING better for you to do, than come over here and get live roasted

stay in your lane young man

[ripe quest]

See you at bingo

[sterile stone]

Get him Ex

Let the old man know

[native cargo]

is crusher meta? I'm out of the loop in meta because I just use a weapon and try to become one with god

[gray ice]

Listen I was the first one who was pushing immo nades when everyone still thought stuns were best, I'm technically a meta definer

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/corn-pop-bad-dude-gif-26123586

live footage of argus getting down to buy a lottery ticket

[ripe quest]

So called "Meta definer" makes a loose ass blessing and perk guide for Zealot's weapons

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/kickers-caught-gif-7775692

[ripe quest]

hmmmm

[maiden path]

i am denying both

[deep hare]

i would kill both of them

[sterile stone]

Fuck outta here

[gray ice]

she has a pacific punch monster I'm staying with the woman

[fading vale]

I'll admit that at first I didn't realize how much damage fire nades did

[native cargo]

All good answers

[fading vale]

I still hate throwing knives though

[maiden path]

one has leprosy the other is not real

[ripe quest]

The real cool part about immo grenades is that Showstopper will proc with them

[native cargo]

we should flood this chat with mercury

[maiden path]

i am not being friends with a leper

[native cargo]

and see how well it goes

[gray ice]

Listennnn, If you follow the Table you will get yourself a very good weapon and we have somewhere to point people who ask if flesh tearer is good for the 90th time

I have accomplished what I set out to do

[sterile stone]

You welcome all forms of life

Except furries

[light holly]

He's just mad his boss is 5'1 and he's 4'9

[maiden path]

furries arent dat bad

i dont mind them

[native cargo]

very mad

[fading vale]

until they book a hotel for a con and get banned

[light holly]

Thst doesn't happen that often oh my god I'm losing my mind

[gray ice]

from EVERY Hotel in the area

[sterile stone]

[native cargo]

We actually have a nice drawing by ex

[light holly]

[native cargo]

I even saved it

[gray ice]

we've got a couple actually, they're all great

[fading vale]

"that often"

[light holly]

Let it be put on record the one time a guy tried to gas a hotel with furries in it

[native cargo]

We need to unleash our artistic prowess to show how passionate we are about zealot class

[ripe quest]

Ah yes hmmmm and who gave you what is on that table? Mr. Meta Definer.

[light holly]

Yes I'll be the first to admit

There are....

[sterile stone]

I'm just sayin

[light holly]

People that need to practice hygiene at cons

[sterile stone]

It's wild the most recorded furries

Are the ones doing wild shit

All I'm saying

[light holly]

Its wild

[ripe quest]

They drive our world.

[fading vale]

I mean the most recorded of anything is the wild stuff

[light holly]

Yeah

Or the unhinged stuff

[sterile stone]

I've never seen a recording of a furry doing something non-degen

[native cargo]

So hypothetically speaking, is it bad to eat a genestealer?

[light holly]

Yeah

Probably

Did you eat a gene stealer

[native cargo]

Maybe

[fading vale]

would rather that than stans food

[gray ice]

A healthy trail mix made of a combination of common sense and community knowledge by people smarter than me about this maze of a game

[light holly]

You simply didn't look for those videos

Which...

[ripe quest]

Mr. Deez Nuts

[light holly]

You're watching recordings of furries doing degen stuff?

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[native cargo]

That moment when the nyquil ramen was too normal for stan v.v

[light holly]

Hold up

[sterile stone]

I literally get it in my live feed

I watch alot of youtube channels covering niche communities

And furries tend to pop up a unhealthy amount

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/konya-gif-27452116

HMMM

[gray ice]

Well live feed is recommendations based on what you watch sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[native cargo]

brb gonna go across the road and harass the skinwalker staring through my window

[ripe quest]

You are what you eat

[gray ice]

Who's gonna tell em cuz I'mma hurt his feelings

[sterile stone]

Did you even read the second part

[light holly]

See the algorithm knows

[sterile stone]

Of what I posted

[light holly]

[sterile stone]

I swear

Mfs know English and don't use it

[gray ice]

niche communities doesn't auto-redirect to furry ones as far as I'm aware

[light holly]

I know English and like to twist it

[gray ice]

smells like blame shifting

[sterile stone]

It went from 4chan incels

To furries

And inbetween there

[sterile stone]

Some weird internet personalities

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-the-dark-side-of-the-force-abilities-unnatural-black-magic-gif-14302242

[indigo quartz]

ty bront

[gray ice]

I don't even know what would be between those two things, not sure I want to know either

[light holly]

Weebs

Probably

[sterile stone]

PEople like Chris Chan.

[light holly]

I dunno

[gray ice]

nice invisible weapon you got there

smite with your imagination

[light holly]

Chris Chan is like, on the far corner of 4chan

Tucked away

[indigo quartz]

btw, you excited for 2h power claymore in the datamine?

[sterile stone]

He's still got that niche community bit going on with him.

[gray ice]

that's been in the datamine since launch

[light holly]

Really?

Jesus

[gray ice]

there is no excitement

[sterile stone]

Like alot of weird ass people on the internet have these hate groups who document their lives.

[light holly]

I thought aftet they left prison it'd be over

[indigo quartz]

but are you excited about -

[sterile stone]

Bruh naaaah

[gray ice]

[sterile stone]

I forgot who told me

But Chris just went to anime con

And got kicked out

[light holly]

Its like that trend of folks who like serial killers

[indigo quartz]

[light holly]

Yeah not suprised

[sterile stone]

Trading in the serial killer aspect for immense autism

[light holly]

[sterile stone]

But I mean people like watching dumpster fires.

Hence why these odd personalities have small niche communities around them

[gray ice]

I'll be excited on the patch that they add a 2h power axe

[light holly]

They just added more fuel to the fire and are ready to light it evidentally

I guess this does go back to the boogie

[sterile stone]

What happened to Boogie anyway

[light holly]

I really thought he was turning his life around but whew

Uh

[sterile stone]

Last I remember

He pulled a gun on a dude

Then had a mental breakdown

[light holly]

He's jobless, is probably in debt

Egotistical

And still running his ego like he was still popular on YouTube

[ripe quest]

I'll be excited when they do anything beyond 1h weapons and like 4 2h ones.

There are more ranged weapons that use 2h than melee weapons rn

[light holly]

I mean I guess boogies still alive but he certainly doesn't want to improve

[sterile stone]

That's gotta be a weird point in life.

[light holly]

There is a documentary about him on YT

[sterile stone]

There's several docs on boog

[gray ice]

Yea I hope they really lean into the universe and bring us some of the more unique weapons that would actually be cool af to use in an FPS like this

[sterile stone]

Wings is a good doc to watch aswell

Jordie really kinda self destructed

[ripe quest]

Like a shield

🙂

or a 2h pipe

[light holly]

Oh yeah I gotta check wings

[gray ice]

I know they have to keep it somewhat grounded but like cmon man, there's no other good action/FPS games that have gameplay this good in the Warhammer universe besides space marine, and soon space marine 2

[light holly]

I know him and Hutch had beef

Iirc...

[sterile stone]

Bro had beef with alot of people

[light holly]

Damn wings and boogie are really similar now that I think about it

[sterile stone]

He's one of the few people I know of

[gray ice]

Just give us some of the cool shit

[sterile stone]

That makes some money

From the people that hate him

Which is weird when you think on it

[gray ice]

Like yea adepta sororitas would obviously not be a reject like us, but who gives a shit. It's cosmetic only let us look cool, it's not gonna affect much.

They even reference them in game, way to tease us about it

[light holly]

Its kinda like DSP

But his fans like to uh, get abused by him? I dunno

[sterile stone]

Yeaaah people are weird

[ripe quest]

like a pipe, a shield, a 2h normal blunt weapon, any semblance of balance, a cooler shield

[sterile stone]

Nothing worse than a cc who actively berates people

For not just shoving money in their bank account

Reminds me of that one chick

[royal vortex]

1handed shock maul and shield would be cool

[sterile stone]

"YOU DON'T HAVE $5 BUT YOU HAVE HOURS TO SIT ON TWITCH"

[gray ice]

maybe it's too captain america or unrealistic, but like an energized sword and shield combo would be baller

[ripe quest]

Yeah I think something like that would be a sick addition to Ogryn's kit

[limpid pike]

really hurts to look at

[light holly]

I swear that was... I forgor her name

Oh pokimane

[limpid pike]

tho peneration stats rather low

[sterile stone]

Nah it wasn't her

[light holly]

Guhh

[hollow ember]

i have reload speed perk + 77% reload speed and it feels like my 71% with no reload speed perk, this is a scam

[sterile stone]

Poki got in trouble for calling her viewers poor for not buying a $27 bag of cookies

[royal vortex]

i was more speaking for the human classes. idk if they can make a shield, paul, and shield + paul lineup work

i just wanna larp as an enforcer

[hollow ember]

the only weakness i felt with the revolver is the reload speed, sad that it doesn't make much of a dif

[sterile stone]

This is the fan the hammer rev right?

[ripe quest]

That's the normal revolver

Agri is the new one

[sterile stone]

Oh alright

I was gonna say

[hollow ember]

agri is faster?

with reload

[sterile stone]

Why would you put Surg on a fan revolver

[hollow ember]

ah gotcha

[light holly]

[ripe quest]

Also yeah that would make sense, the +reload speed perk is minimal and the difference between 77% and 71% is unnoticeable to a normal person

[hollow ember]

yea I was hoping the perk would make the difference

[ripe quest]

Gives better per hit damage

[sterile stone]

I mean ehhh

[hollow ember]

with 8.5% increase but yea still not worth the difference

[ripe quest]

imo it's like current Boltgun

[sterile stone]

Like why not run crucian on the Agri then?

[ripe quest]

where it's functionally better as a DMR and it still has the burst

[sterile stone]

Unless I'm using it wrong

I usually just go full McCree and unload the cylinder

[ripe quest]

Crucian gives lower crit chance

[fleet zealot]

vraks 7 is just a better bolter

change my mind

(joke)

[sterile stone]

You're just a better bolter

[ripe quest]

Despite how odd it feels imo Surgical + Hand Cannon is probaby better for the Agri, it having lower base damage can hurt when you're also not getting Hand Cannon as often with Crucian. I like it for bigger enemies, but it loses it's charm once the Zarona can cleave something

[royal vortex]

i wish point blank was a bit better

it would be a cool synergy with the agri if it was like 30% crit chance

[ripe quest]

Crit Chance based on how close you are to something would be kinda funny

[untold oracle]

it’s just not as good as the zarona unfortunately

but anything can work

[spare dome]

you can totes use it

[hollow ember]

Zarona revolver is amazing, the only weakness is that in +damnation there are so many elites to pick off and so little ammo

[spare dome]

it just doesnt really have a place sadly

imo all it needs is six shots instead of five, and a toooouch more unarmored

cause i think its bullshit you cant bodyshot a fuckin dreg stalker with it

[ripe quest]

Agri has the higher ammo going for it ig, but with how potent Zarona is all that means is Agri has more freedom to spam but this loops back to the whole less damage when spamming thing

[hollow ember]

just tried the agri and my god that reload time is wonderful

but yea the zarona with secondary zoom-in is better with my bad sight

[spare dome]

it's actually kind of awful when you compare the amount of output you get from its five rounds + the downtime

[hollow ember]

i feel I would struggle to pick off specialists and whatnot with the agri

[hollow ember]

yea

[untold oracle]

simply click on heads,

[spare dome]

like sure you get all five rounds immediately

if it WERE the zarona that would be amazing

[hollow ember]

trying it rn and the only thing I feel it has over zarona is that amazing reload time

[spare dome]

but it's the agri, so it's like, who cares lmao

[ripe quest]

Agri actually does have a higher total than the Zarona with surgical hand cannon on both against Carapace but it's a little too slim for comfort

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/flushed-gif-23088083

[native cargo]

Can't really decide if I'm a fan of the hsword or not

struggling against bulwarks and what not

[ripe quest]

Wow Boltgun actually puts out some nice numbers compared to Revolver for Cara

[spare dome]

you can juice the bolter a good amount

[zinc talon]

https://youtu.be/G7zVdmTC9Ck?si=1aj5mp64Pe-DdEQ2

[spare dome]

can get crushers down in four hits sometimes

[ripe quest]

I was a bit worried that the new Revolver would just be a new Boltgun and what I'm seeing is that Boltgun is just a better Agri lol

At least damage wise

[spare dome]

ye

the bolter will always have one niche

[ripe quest]

With Anoint, SI, Surgical, and Cara you can get 4 shots on Crushers

[spare dome]

it dumps a bolter load of damage in 2.3~s

[ripe quest]

With Fury you can get like 5-6 Crushers per ult which sadly isn't comparable to Flamer. At least Boltgun can open Bulwarks lol

[spare dome]

pinning fire in a proper fight is also great

it already staggers/suppresses so fucking much around it

[ripe quest]

Yeah PF will be better for smaller enemies

[spare dome]

nah even when firing on a crusher

[ripe quest]

With certain setups it can be better for bosses

[heavy arch]

is bolter good again?

[spare dome]

i really only break out the bolter for really big lines of doods

maulers, and crushers

and sometimes snipers if theyre too far for knife

oh, i landed a 61~m knife throw

i gotta make a clip of that

some other day cause its heckin late

anyway bolter is fun

[gray ice]

pack sumn to open them

[ripe quest]

Hmm it looks like that talent that ups impact by 30% hits the BP for Crushers

so you can stack PF against them

[gray ice]

@sterile stone download the finals loser

I need a 3rd

[ripe quest]

It's a touch worse than SI for them

but seems fairly good

[north sedge]

If only flamer wasn't so weak 😔

[ripe quest]

If only

[sterile stone]

Aight 2 things

1. I'm in bed

2. I'm Amish I can't use technology

[gray ice]

In bed at 10

did you take your fuckin dentures out too jesus

[sterile stone]

IT'S COLD

I ain't trying to sit in a chair

At 10 pm

Freezing my ass off

[gray ice]

society has this new technology called clothing

you put it on and it insulates against outside weather conditions

[ripe quest]

hi amish I'm not

[olive raven]

Do you not have fucking heat

Even the Amish know how to use fire

[spare dome]

can it insulate me from social conditions

[sterile stone]

I got roommates

The heat don't distribute to the rooms evenly

[ripe quest]

Argus Use The Heating Argus Please Argus You're Not Amish You Can Do This

[olive raven]

Open your doors???

[sterile stone]

I'm in my boxers bruh

[sterile stone]

What the hell

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-fancy-rat-storm-sniff-gif-13223124

[vague depot]

which one should i take

[sterile stone]

I'm getting harrased by background characters

This is nonsense

[gray ice]

deserved

[heavy arch]

[ripe quest]

ig the right one but neither are great

[vague depot]

damn

low first target?

[sterile stone]

Momma always told me to watch out for the fakes

[polar nexus]

so i tried bleed zealot

it was fine

the screen was brown red

[frozen glen]

the real zealot guide title

[native cargo]

like wut

[gray ice]

bolter opens

[north sedge]

Correct

[gray ice]

kant goes through

[native cargo]

With the special? Yeah ik that. Was playing around with old revolver.

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/definitely-maybe-romance-comedy-ryan-reynolds-oh-ok-gif-3523446

[native cargo]

probably just gotta get good at dodging bulwarks when they're in a patrol pack or smth

[gray ice]

immo nades also great for bulwark packs

if you don't wanna pack a wep for it

[delicate shadow]

bleed knife

[gray ice]

hush quinoa seed

[delicate shadow]

[gray ice]

the dark arts shall not be cited here

[native cargo]

gonna have to pack the ol' reliable kanty

here I go again

[frozen glen]

bleed knife opens bulwarks

if u manage to bleed them

[native cargo]

Did you just go through two pfps

can't even

[gray ice]

bulging e girl

[stiff timber]

1 shot daemon host still exist in auric damnation ?

got this guy with lvl 900 zealot just 1 shot every daemonhost

[gray ice]

with particular setups yes

[stiff timber]

without even waking up

[gray ice]

most commonly it is stealth hammer which accomplishes this

[stiff timber]

i didnt manage to see his build sadly

not sure what he used

i think it was eviscerator tho

[gray ice]

hmm I can't see that working with evisc, maybe some setup with the new one?

[stiff timber]

yeah i tried myself in psykhanium and cant

[native cargo]

Am curious then. What is the difference between rashad and the hsword (mk6) since they seeeeem to do around the same-ish thing. Is it just preference or something?

[stiff timber]

wish theres a player tracker

so i can check his build

[gray ice]

caxe will obliterate crushers much faster

[oak cipher]

Axe better vs armour.

[gray ice]

also better vs bosses

[zinc talon]

frens

I have an assertion to make

if you could click over to ogryn chat and read the current pics I've sent

my zealot's vendor list last night would be of particular interest to yall I think

[spare talon]

joined a mission
45 free plasteel from mission failure screen

[polar nexus]

holy shit

you are right okri

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/game-foot-afoot-here-we-gif-9368593

[ripe quest]

@gray ice

I'm having way too much fun with a title

[gray ice]

put up a distorted face of gman

call it the z man guide

[zinc talon]

[toxic sluice]

Aight yall, upgrade or just yoink the blessing

[ripe quest]

Fatshark will gut me if I release this

[gray ice]

I love it

[native cargo]

I seee

I do like the arc the hsword has with its heavies. Lets me cleave them packs of ragers and what not pretty easily

if I'm doing it right anyways otherwise I'm crying

[ivory marlin]

Hi vin

[ripe quest]

Hi gale

[ivory marlin]

Hello

[gray ice]

hi gale

[ivory marlin]

Howdy

[native cargo]

[ivory marlin]

The girl im talking with is gonna teach me how to crochet tomorrow

Im gonna make an octopus

[ivory marlin]

So me

[native cargo]

devour her like a squig would

when she least expects it

[ivory marlin]

But

She’s pretty

[native cargo]

She is worthy of a devouring via squig then

[ivory marlin]

:(

[native cargo]

The squig will mold her into strong

become strong

[ivory marlin]

She is already pretty strong

[native cargo]

o.o

Then the squig will simply slide right off if she is already strong

[ivory marlin]

Don’t send squigs to eat the girl i like please

[native cargo]

They will mark her as part of the pack since she is strong

worry not

[ivory marlin]

Oh ok

[spare talon]

yo my sword has dante too

[vague depot]

My jaw dropped

[median crow]

oh man that cosmetic refresh.

lol

[polar nexus]

The scion mask slaps

The rest is kinda meh

[sterile stone]

Gives you that vader voice

Like the zealot mask

Hopefully we get more closed face masks/helmets

[gray ice]

I have the best name

"Will it Blend"

[spare talon]

oh my god

[spare talon]

@quaint verge

[spare talon]

the ass opener 9000 is part of a build i have on gameslantern that i called The Human-shaped Woodchipper

[zealous basin]

hi

guys

hi.

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-annoyed-wave-star-trek-gif-3461687

[zealous basin]

i erm uhh

fubb :DDDDD

[zinc talon]

I know that feel

[polar nexus]

Hi flip

[zinc talon]

also, my two cents

if you only get a single item from the store, ever

get this eye

all 3 smols can use it and it pairs beautifully with a ton of stuff

I have every cosmetic in the game and I still use this eye about a third of the time when I play non-ogryn classse

[polar nexus]

I want bionic arms

[crisp schooner]

I want dual sword

[sterile stone]

I want nice armor

That doesn't look like a hand me down

[ornate bone]

I wish I could use the eyepatch on all classes

And the veteran goggles and train conductor cap

[native cargo]

is that the quirty dirky from dmc

[sterile stone]

There's a bug

Where one of the rebreathers the zealot has

Can be worn by vet in the preview screen

[spare talon]

anyway
so when can i use my fortnite skins on my zealot

[north sedge]

Ogryn need to be able to wear zealot shirt again

[ember yew]

what is that chaos abomination

[fiery ingot]

ah yes the kim jong un face

[north sedge]

Was a bug when they added the prisoner regiment gear/penances

Ogryn could become slender

Was right after shirtless bug

[blissful sinew]

slimgryn

[naive star]

How much is the eye?

But yeah i can definitely see appeal of cosmetic useable by several classes, now if i could also use my pirate eyepatch with it on zealot! 🏴‍☠️ 🦜

[spare talon]

never seen a lower final score

[timid mortar]

a "Just a Flesh Wound" penance run?

[naive star]

All i hear is just Rashad talk about combat axe, is this any good?

[timid mortar]

Is there a 'GREAT SPOT' for the 'Shocking Stuff' penance??

[naive star]

Yes, custom game where your team doesnt kill all the shocked targets before you reach 40 😄

It can be done instantly with communication also, if people just take out specials and elites and leave the trash to you, drop couple stuns and flamer in action and its done

But, im still at 37/40 or so too

Lastnight had flamer with me and good mission ending for it, but the ingame's chat broke, so i couldnt communicate i wanted to do it

So there was this Ogryn with very fast firing MG that made it impossible

[fiery ingot]

to get man-stopper blessing do i want a shotty above 350 or lower since its t2? idk how rare this blessing is

[timid mortar]

I had a psyker rage quit and got replaced with a bot that started to mess up the penance run.

[ripe quest]

You want the base rating to be really low, or grab it from the ordo docket store.

Some people will make a new character to get Flechette and Man Stopper

[fiery ingot]

oh damn

that really sucks

[ripe quest]

It's a touch annoying yeah

[fiery ingot]

why would they make it a t2 only?

could've been t4 since its not that bad

also

how does man-stopper interact with agri slug?

[ripe quest]

It's okish with the slug, Man Stopper shines more with the primary fire

It'll give it unlimited cleave and whatnot

A Scattershot + Man Stopper Agri with a Crit CDR build will give it the best performance with Man Stopper, with how easy it is to stack Scattershot you'll have high crit chance constantly.

It isn't super impactful but I had a couple moments where I agri a horde and I get BP up in a shot or two.

[timid mortar]

It's not the infinite cleave - I think there's a limit.
It's when it's paired up with another blessing that calculates damage based on number of targets hit/cleaved.

[ripe quest]

You need to elaborate.

From what I've seen Man-Stopper has genuine unlimited cleave until it hits a Crusher, in which it'll stop.

Oh this did bring something to attention, @fading vale a Man-Stopper shot from a shotgun will stack a shitload of stagger for No Respite. Seems like staggering 2 enemies with 1 stack of stagger will give the shot 2 stacks of no respite.

An Agri will raw nearly 1 shot body shot a Dreg Rager with the special

[spare talon]

no
a normal run

there was a bot for like half of it

and the bot was putting in more work AND giving me ammo via survivalist

[ripe quest]

Like magic they turn to dust

[naive star]

Is there mod or setting to set corpses instantly disappear? With Crusher i got the issue im not sure if they died or if they gonna get up still

Was helpful in Vermintide 2 too to play that way

[ripe quest]

You can just set the ragdolls to 3

I think it can go to 1

I've heard it causes crashes at 0

In an actual game if there's a horde anywhere setting it to 3 is almost instant deletion for a ragdoll

[spare talon]

my fucking god i love parrying

[naive star]

How does the parry work on that Dclaw? Never yet tried it but hoarded many good rolls

[spare talon]

parry is essentially a block with a very powerful counterattack

[ripe quest]

It'll just block damage and cap stamina used to 2. If you get hit during it it's like a block with a followup

[zinc talon]

sadly I can't tell you because I've purchased it already

[naive star]

Ok, so just hold down special?

[naive star]

Went to check, its 700

[ripe quest]

You just tap it

[spare talon]

tapping it puts the parry up for like 1 second

[naive star]

Ok thanks, so you can tap it and keep swinging and it will still work?

[celest cave]

No.

[spare talon]

if something hits and you parry it, youll have to tap again to put the parry back up

[naive star]

So tap it, block and then it works

[ripe quest]

There's some Crab-era tech you can do to make the Plague Ogryn extremely unthreatening.

[celest cave]

Just tap it.

[spare talon]

i personally charge at it when its charging at me to get the crit bleed for scourge stacking going right off the rip lol

[naive star]

Mk4 was the Dclaw to grab?

[ripe quest]

I just dodge through the Plogryn's charge

[spare talon]

thats the one i like
very good and reliable moveset

[ripe quest]

All three are used, people like the IV a lot.

I personally am a fan of the VII.

[spare talon]

light spam is generally horde clear
h1 is an overhead
h2 is a side sweep
h2>light>h2>light are perfectly horizontal for the highest horde damage and cleave

[naive star]

How would i go into that h2 to begin it?

[spare talon]

just a 1 light attack

[naive star]

So basicly then L+H+L+H ?

[spare talon]

if theres an elite in the crowd i run at it with a h1 overhead then start the crowd sweeping

but thats just me

[spare talon]

pretty much

[native cargo]

unpossible

[spare talon]

i use the dclaw with piety crit cdr, so i alternate between light attacks (less damage but faster cooldown) and damage sweeps (when i want shit dead)

[naive star]

They should make all the bots run support builds, smite psyker, ammo vet, chaos removal zealot with the book

[spare talon]

also i never see anyone talk about this but me
since parrying is coded as a dodge it works from behind, sides, whatever since its 360
that means you can use it very offensively if you have good positioning and enemy awareness

[ripe quest]

Dang I figured that the Dclaw would compete with the Chainsword for horde clear but it's not really close

[spare talon]

such as here

[ripe quest]

It's nuts how strong it still is, and this is after the Rampage fix

[spare talon]

rampage was fixed???

damn

[native cargo]

I maybe slowly realizing what hsword truly is

bit by bit

[ripe quest]

Yee went from 104% damage to just the normal 36% power

[spare talon]

i guess i just never noticed then

[ripe quest]

Happened a while ago

It only really hit Evis hard

It went from top contender to well balanced.

[naive star]

What is it then?

[spare talon]

general time? i stopped playing like mid december for a few weeks and only came back 2 days ago

[native cargo]

A really heavy sword

but not like

huge

[ripe quest]

I think it was December

idr

Was before the typical Fatshark vacation obv

[spare talon]

thats crazy
idk how i didnt notice a 70% damage drop

but the weapon feels the same

[ripe quest]

Chainsword went from the most fodder and bruiser damage to the most fodder and bruiser damage

Quite impactful

[native cargo]

what if they lied and didn't actually change it

[ripe quest]

That'd be cute and all but I don't even know if it was listed in the patch notes, I found out through the source code

[spare talon]

thats how i missed it, cuz i read patch notes the moment they come out

if its not listed there, i just wont know lmao

[ripe quest]

classic fatshark

[left iron]

Mmyess scritches

[native cargo]

excellent fatass

[left iron]

He gets angry when i stop

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752156106071081021/1195263366697078865/20240112_010739.mp4?ex=65b35ac1&is=65a0e5c1&hm=629c6ff350b50c2eea9051d8766cd7ab38e72cf69ac22f1625fa56b616100a3d&

[regal skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_972DVi9KU4 just found this and its gold

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-iron-man-tony-stark-i-want-one-gwenyth-paltrow-gif-3567745

[twin wagon]

I bring cat

cought mid yawn

[fiery ingot]

man dclaws are goated

with piety its just really nuts

[ember yew]

now thats an ugly one

[fiery ingot]

i dont know what the fuck is that thing below but it looks like a d1ldo lol

[zinc talon]

Heard yall liked them beans

[fiery ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-upside-down-cat-lying-on-floor-cat-lying-on-back-australian-cat-gif-21683076

bro

im trying to farm man-stopper

and i get a fucking scattershot 4 on a blue shotty with 314 base rating

game is fucking with me

worst of all is that i bought a shotty with scattershot 4 off melk yesterday just so i could eat the blessing

[ripe quest]

Definitely grab it

No Respite + Man Stopper Agri is growing on me, actually makes the special shot useful

Though the spam that is Scattershot + Man Stopper is fun as well

[fiery ingot]

wdym agri slug is almost as good as kantrael

[spare talon]

man if only i needed a revolver

[fiery ingot]

oh i should mention: i dont play agri on zealot

[ripe quest]

[fiery ingot]

if i'd want to play agri on zealot id just play revolver instead

[ripe quest]

Revolver doesn't have man stopper so I've never thought of them having the same niche

[spare talon]

but it does have cleave

[fiery ingot]

its not about the cleave, its about the sniping potential

[ripe quest]

It has like 6.5 cleave that is like a few elites at most

[spare talon]

i love killing 7 shotgunners with one bullet

[spare talon]

yeah and youre rarely going to have more than that lined up

even on auric maelstrom

[fiery ingot]

agri slug only penetrates 2 enemies iirc which is trash, but it hits like a truck just like revolver does

[ripe quest]

With how dense some of the crowds get you can def get more than a few elites lined up

[fiery ingot]

so on a vet that thing is monstruous

but i tried on zealot and i dont like it

[ripe quest]

I'm not sure if Agri's slug has cleave.

[fiery ingot]

if i want to snipe as zealot i just go revolver instead

it doesnt, but it penetrates enemies

[ripe quest]

that

bro

what do you think cleave is

[coarse birch]

i think agri special has a cleave of like 2

[fiery ingot]

hitting more than 1 enemy side by side? idk

[ripe quest]

Cleave on ranged weapons means you can pen enemies

[fiery ingot]

oh

[coarse birch]

but it might just be one

[fiery ingot]

then yeah agri slug cleaves 2

[coarse birch]

can test easy enough

[ripe quest]

Zarona has like 6.5 cleave so it's got 6.5 hitmass worth of cleave

[royal vortex]

cleave isn't real

it can't hurt you

[ripe quest]

Small elites hover around 2.5 to 4 hitmass

Man-Stopper makes it unlimited

[fiery ingot]

oh i see

[coarse birch]

yeah i was gonna say idk if itll cleave elites

[fiery ingot]

i was thinking that it would makes it behave like lawbringer slug

[coarse birch]

i wasnt sure what there hitmass was

[fiery ingot]

meaning it would cleave sideways

agri slug does cleave maulers body

[ripe quest]

Agri is also a finesse weapon, so if you get a crit it also does better damage. With Duellist up it'll do more crit weakspot damage than Kant

[fiery ingot]

wait

flak ragers, not sure about maulers

[ripe quest]

That Man-Stopper No Respite setup won't 1 shot Dreg Ragers with a Kant

With Agri +elites hits the BP

[fiery ingot]

isnt kant slug cleave infinite already?

[ripe quest]

mh

[fiery ingot]

why pair man-stopper with it?

[ripe quest]

The primary shot

[fiery ingot]

ahh

wait

so if agri hits bp without full bore

damn thats huge

[fiery ingot]

jesus christ

why is this blessing t2

fml

how much base rating should i aim for to get t2 blessings on upgrade?

[ripe quest]

Probs just like 200's

Should hit T2

[fiery ingot]

200

[ember yew]

most common idea for low blessings was to create an alt

and roll on that alt

[spare talon]

make new character
level it up to your first shotgun unlock
start upgrading

[fiery ingot]

[ripe quest]

Dang it can almost hit the 1 shot with Maulers

Maybe with Judgement up

But that kinda makes the build annoying to run

It'll hit it with Anoint

[fiery ingot]

play veteran

[ripe quest]

mmm yes I'll play a different class to make the Agri viable on Zealot

[fiery ingot]

here we go

[ember yew]

[faint crescent]

I'm NUMBER 1

[raven swan]

Using Chastise to kill a crusher I throw my self below the elevator .... end of the run

[zinc talon]

it's called style

hooray

[ember yew]

That's the perfect one

and you even get flexible blessing slot

for either shred/wrath or w/e

[zinc talon]

yeah I'm pumped actually

I lucked into a ton of new chainaxes all magically delicious but this Xig has been evading me

[lone pecan]

Congratulations, you crafted so fast the pop ups on the right had no time to disappear

[zinc talon]

CoolGuys(tm) don't look at consecrations

[lone pecan]

Fair, this way it's only painful once

[zinc talon]

it was a gray to start with

[lone pecan]

I wish I could have an evis on my vet

[slow slate]

i can stop grinding officially

[lone pecan]

Finished the game basically

[slow slate]

killed twin hardmode too and did every difficulity now to wait Wolfer boss fight to come out

ultimate drip too even though it isnt place for it

[lone pecan]

Time to farm every penance and frame etc?

[slow slate]

no i would rather play diff games till then xd

but i will occacionally play to farm resources

[lone pecan]

Sounds like heresy

[slow slate]

im a heretic in nature dont belive in the dead man in chair

wish i can make a chaos knight drip or chaos marine

[obtuse solstice]

which one?

[lone pecan]

[slow slate]

left one perks kinda suck imo

but idk i dont use chain sword much

[lone pecan]

I use the Mk15 and that one at least doesn't need savage sweep and would prefer rampage, but I don't know if it's different for the Mk2

[naive star]

Read Mk15 has 4 cap on hitting while Mk2 doesnt

[mystic ether]

Did that evis have a drop in carapace dmg from revved heavies?

[slow slate]

wdym i didnt understand

[zealous basin]

the simulation is violently ripping at the seams im losing it

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[sinful widget]

is it worth it to run the kantrael on zealot?

[still quartz]

Finally, weapon skin appropriate for the attire

I knew it would come in handy one day

Now where tf is my Zealot Edition Dueling Sword

Heavy Sword too heavy

[raven swan]

I just won some penance and game crashedd

I believe all my plasteel gon?

[blazing fossil]

woo just hit 6 figs plasteel

[surreal solstice]

Kant is probably best shotgun out there
So yeah

[opaque hinge]

It is the best (ranged) weapon!

woop woop new 550, shame the belessings are shit but nother one to add to my pile 😄

[still quartz]

I mean if you change Stripped Down to Dum-Dum I think it'll work just fine

Or TB to Dum-Dum

[ember yew]

ye

[still quartz]

Perks are very good already

[hidden verge]

are these blessings good?

[still quartz]

No xd

Unfortunately

Overpressure good to keep around

Look for a Flamer with 70%+ Burn stat, Blaze Away and Damage vs Flak

[hidden verge]

so earn overpressure, got it 😂

[still quartz]

Overpressure sadly bugged for Flamer atm since the main damage from it is rapid DoT application, which Overpressure isn't boosting like it should

[native cargo]

fan the flames is what I do when there is a debate going on in this channel and overpressure is a blessing used to make the time to the restroom more eventful

Its really op

[still quartz]

Rat-friend speaks fact-truth

[hidden verge]

[lone pecan]

Can I have some? For science

[native cargo]

blaze away is when you when you do the when when your flamer when yeah it does stuff

[still quartz]

When he

But yeah no you want Blaze Away since it actually boosts Flamer's DPS tremendously cause the DoT damage does increase

The other Blessing can be Quickflame

Faster reloads (from empty) = less Flamer downtime = more crispy BBQ heretics

[native cargo]

when are you posting another video kalhoun

Its been like

6 breakfastes, 3 lunches, and a midnight snack

[lone pecan]

What kind of videos? Can I learn something from them?

[native cargo]

its gameplay videos

of like whatever they do

currently its darktide oriented

[frozen ibex]

[lone pecan]

So not builds or guides specifically?

[native cargo]

The videos do go over the weapons, curio, and talent tree though not in depth

At least the ones I watched

Then its just gameplay ig to serve as a nice preview of what you may experience with what they're doing

[frozen ibex]

[native cargo]

I ask because they haven't posted in a while and Kalhoun is a very important part of the community because they haven't posted in a while

[lone pecan]

I'm still noob enough to need more in depth information but I will try to stalk them and find a video or two

[native cargo]

@still quartz

There a good bit to learn from just watching someone play. How far they are from the target before swinging, when they do certain abilities, how they go about moving, etc etc

[frozen ibex]

Don't watch this agentchaos guy he's super scuffed. Would not recommend

[native cargo]

agentchaos is actually toxic

spreading misinfo on bleed knife

[lone pecan]

That's true, but in the time I watch someone kill heretics I could be killing heretics myself

[native cargo]

You could

I tend to watch these videos when I'm eepy or just bored somewhere

Appointments or whatever

[lone pecan]

Someone with chaos in the name sounds like a heretic anyway, the inquisition will surely deal with them soon

[native cargo]

[timid mortar]

Wait - you've never used plasteel?
That's 2 weeks of Melk coins right there.

[native cargo]

Either got the weapons they want and/or don't really have an interest in other weapons

Its how I have near 40k plasteel

[drowsy steppe]

@native cargo Why are you in the server's book club

[native cargo]

cus I once listed out like a fuck load of novels for people to start with on various factions since I am a 40k fan.

However I haven't actually looked in there in a long while

[bitter anvil]

Ya in 40k book club?

[drowsy steppe]

I unlisted most of the channels but 3 lmao

[keen silo]

fuck you hadron

[drowsy steppe]

yikes dude thats rough

[native cargo]

Like

[drowsy steppe]

[keen silo]

had a perfect hammer only for her to ruin me

[bitter anvil]

This should be on crusher

[native cargo]

a lot of the starter books in the pinned comment in the book club channel were recommended by me

because those books give a good start to factions and what not

[bitter anvil]

Farsight enclaves

[native cargo]

Alongside other people giving their thoughts

[lone pecan]

Why is that hammer bad? Are those not good blessings?

[native cargo]

Farsight Enclave is unironically the one faction atm that is "good guy" oriented. Though its always being contested due to the nature of the 40k universe

[drowsy steppe]

Thunderous is fairly useless on a weapon that can 1 shot most things

[native cargo]

my booty is thunderous

mal

[drowsy steppe]

and you dont need more impact on the Hammer too

[native cargo]

my booty has impact

mal

[drowsy steppe]

goddammit Rat

[fading vale]

you should try with the mod that shows stagger count

[lone pecan]

Makes sense, so what would you want on a hammer instead?

[drowsy steppe]

Thrust and Headtaker/Slaughterer

[bitter anvil]

Slaughter? Thrust

[fading vale]

both hammers want these perks and blessings, or headtaker

headtaker alternative to slaughterer of course

thrust is an absolute requirement

[drowsy steppe]

51% CC

[bitter anvil]

Oof

[drowsy steppe]

[fading vale]

trip 80 damage stats I don't care

I have THE LARGEST POSSIBLE BONK

[drowsy steppe]

but

the attack speed AND THE LOWER CLEAVE

???

[blazing fossil]

My weapons for the most part suit me fine, I might try and make a chaxe/flamer build tho

[fading vale]

3% attack speed and 1.5 cleave can go fuck itself

[drowsy steppe]

believe it or not, this was a weapon bricking issue for some people

but then Momentum exist lmao

[lone pecan]

Okay, thank you. So low CC stat is something people will make fun of? What stats do I want for people to not make fun of me?

[fading vale]

defense is always dump

Mal is mostly just memeing

[drowsy steppe]

ye

I got made fun off for having low CC, as if that matters lmao

[lone pecan]

Too late, I deleted a 380 hammer with low cc just now

[fading vale]

a bit low CC isn't going to hurt

Bruh

[lone pecan]

I didn't

[royal vortex]

i roll 380 hammers just to delete them

im driving up the value

[lone pecan]

You roll all kinds of crushers just to test them

[drowsy steppe]

I roll'nt a 380 hammer unfortunately

[royal vortex]

like throwing money into a paper shredder

[royal vortex]

3 million ordos was a p worthwhile investment

[fading vale]

why must this hammer be cursed with T2 maniac

WHY

[royal vortex]

one day itll be meta again

[lone pecan]

3m ordos sounds about like what I had in total since playing the game I think, maybe 4m

[royal vortex]

ordo curios should be +30%

[fading vale]

I mean ordos are already bis at 10%

[royal vortex]

i need

more

[still quartz]

No idea

College wack

Thinking of making 2 videos

[fading vale]

what are you studying

[still quartz]

The shittiest, most useless degree

[lone pecan]

All my curios for all characters have at least 8% ordos. But I want to also make some perfect ones for actually doing auric missions, I'm not good enough just yet to run those with a non combat perk

[still quartz]

Mufuggin art degree kem

[native cargo]

MAKE VIDEO POST SO I CAN BE FIRST TO COMMENT AND GUSH AND BE LIKE OMG THE OOMFIE POSTED YES SLAAAY

[fading vale]

oof

[native cargo]

you know that shit

[still quartz]

Except I'm dabbling into like engineering and stuff