#zealot-class
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pale kelp
Important note material! I have a weakspot multiplier of 3.00 on my knife, I dodge and proc Duellist. Whats my new multiplier?
south folio
it'd be 3 + (3 - 1) * 0.5 = 4
pale kelp
We got our contenders! Off to the races Ladies and Gentlemen!
oak cipher
WTH am I seing.,
pale kelp
:D
sharp zodiac
MATH
spare dome
yes duelist is great on any weapon with a finesse modifier at or higher than 1
oak cipher
Flat bonus: 350%
Compounded: 450%
spare dome
or frankly if you are just dodging a lot with some weapons
pale kelp
Flat bonus: 350%
Compounded: 450%
Im trying to find which one of the two ye, thank u math wolf for clarifying
lost solar
I.E. You hit 10 normally. You hit for 15 total on a weakspot. If you get 50% increased weakspot damage, that increases your total damage to 17,5
sturdy owl
Can't fit it on my stealth knife build, it's very unfortunate
lost solar
but as allways take quickmaffs with a grain of salt
pale kelp
So the 3.0 after a modifier has a new multiplier of 4.5?
south folio
it's 4
+weakspot damage only increases the portion of damage that comes from the weakspot
pale kelp
Oh because the modifier gets increased by half
lost solar
yup
south folio
hence, 3 + (3 - 1) * 0.5 = 4
lost solar
+weakspot damage only increases the portion of damage that comes from the weaksp...
and this is why generally +crit damage *and +finesse damage except for a few weapons are big garbage
lost solar
and keep in mind crit and weakspot multiplier can be different on the same weapon
in fact mostly its different
so thats another layer of quickmaffs for hte nerds
oak cipher
it's 4
I think you are confusing something .
50% of 3 is 1.5.
Is there some formula for DT that is different than what yuour normal game would use?
pale kelp
Are duelist and precognition additive or multiplicative? (Precognition increases finesse by 60%)
south folio
yes, DT is using a different formula
instead of the 3 * 0.5 that you expect to be added to your weakspot damage
it's adding (3 - 1) * 0.5
lost solar
the only thing multiplicative are dmg reductions for player
pale kelp
I think you are confusing something .
50% of 3 is 1.5.
Is there some formula f...
Nahh he right, you modify only the ADDITIONAL damage for jitting a weakspot, in this case 2 of the 2/3rds
coarse birch
I have never understood how this game calculates stuff
I need to have someone sit down and explain it to me lol
sharp zodiac
Odd
south folio
it's whack and they use the same term to mean different things and i hate it
pale kelp
the only thing multiplicative are dmg reductions for player
So it would be 2 x 2.1 + 1. For a 5.2 times multiplier?
spare dome
it's not boosting your damage when you crit, it's boosting your critial damage. as it were.
sharp zodiac
They're also no the best when it comes to translations in terms of different languages for some weapons..
coarse birch
Yeah its boosting the +50 damage
oak cipher
Hm... Okay.
coarse birch
Or w/e your crit damage is
spare dome
so 50 becomes 150 on a crit, that 100 gets a 50% boost
pale kelp
And when combined with precognition (60% fineasse) as well, it gets a 110% boost?
spare dome
ye
pale kelp
Okay thank ya'll wise ones 
spare dome
it gets a bit fuckier than that but close enough
coarse birch
Does finesse damage get a boost past 100%
south folio
it should
spare dome
crit, weak spot, crit weakspot, and finesse are all separately defined things
south folio
only thing that's known to be capped is just rending for now I think?
coarse birch
Yeah rending and crit chance goes above 100% ive heard but for no benefit?
pale kelp
crit, weak spot, crit weakspot, and finesse are all separately defined things
Mhm, but both duellist and precognition effectively increase weakspot damage by a total of 110%?
And same for critical hit?
(Im trying to do breakpoint math)
oak cipher
I hate this game and its math 
I just want my one bullet headshot instagib -_-
lost solar
So it would be 2 x 2.1 + 1. For a 5.2 times multiplier?
if u take 10 dmg and have 2x20% dmg reduction its not 2x20=40 10-4 = 6 but 10x 0,2 = 8 x0,2 which is 1,6 8-1,6 = 6,4
pale kelp
Okay thank u ๐
coarse birch
Does wartide calculator calculate that stuff properly
lost solar
so if u see a zealot guy saying GUYS I FOUND A WAY FOR 100% TOUGHNESS DMG REDUCTION CHECK chances are they dont know this
pale kelp
if u take 10 dmg and have 2x20% dmg reduction its not 2x20=40 10-4 = 6 but 10x 0...
Uhhhh why we doin dmg reduction now
Hep
lost solar
Uhhhh why we doin dmg reduction now
lolmisread the question thought u asked the dmg red
yea finesse
pale kelp
God i... im not built for numbers
pale kelp
if u take 10 dmg and have 2x20% dmg reduction its not 2x20=40 10-4 = 6 but 10x 0...
Oh so I see I see okay makes sense
I gotchi i gotchu
Good to know, cheers
lost solar
So it would be 2 x 2.1 + 1. For a 5.2 times multiplier?
ye 2x 2.1 +1 is 5.2 in the end
sharp zodiac
Numbers ....
lost solar
this is why hate the crafting system all the more
since u are playing with numbers between the rng system its hard to tell for people to "take x to 1sbs or 1shs Y mob"
its like astrology
round up pi to 4 and ur answer is between 1 to 5 magnitude of 10 on the 10th and still counts as a correct answer
pale kelp
If I heavy crit headshot a berserker on damnation i can kill it one hit if I have 100% armor pen from uncanny!
Yippee
oak cipher
Welcome to the Imperium of Man and the domain of Adeptus Mechanicus 
lost solar
Idk how to even like figure it out
open source , go to github and start manually dig for stuff
pale kelp
open source , go to github and start manually dig for stuff
Thats based
oak cipher
On the unrelated note. JUST MAKE MY BOLTER KILL THINGS
coarse birch
Oh is it on github
lost solar
Thats based
? true for both DT and Vt2
coarse birch
Ill check that
oak cipher
Why the hell do I hit this scrawny little scab in the gut, and he just falls over?
sharp zodiac
H died
pale kelp
? true for both DT and Vt2
I respect it. V nice.
fading vale
Ill check that
the code can be very abstract/obscure
coarse birch
Yeah i just wanna understand how this game calculates stuff
coarse birch
So that i can tell people whats good based off more than just "ive used it game and it was good"
lost solar
dont bother
coarse birch
Cause arco will explain how TDR works and im fucking lost
fading vale
most of the calculations follow a similar pattern
lost solar
in vt2 we had everything nailed down to the last bit for science and people still went "but what if" and its like no "but yeah but waht if "
granite hearth
Which of these 3 is actually the best?
fading vale
pretty much everything DR related is multiplicative except for the things that are additive like marty and minor toughness nodes
coarse birch
most of the calculations follow a similar pattern
What's the pattern
coarse birch
Which of these 3 is actually the best?
2 replace perfect strike with rampage
fading vale
damage modifiers all add together unless they are different types of modifiers, but like +damage all adds together, power multiplies against damage, perks multiply against damage as well
crit and weakspot are their own per weapon nonsense based on a boost curve
oak cipher
So that i can tell people whats good based off more than just "ive used it game ...
I think people often forget that the key objective of this game is to survive At least so your commissar can get that bullet in your head...
granite hearth
I haven't earned the rampage blessing yet womp 
coarse birch
Could you give a formula example by chance
If not jts fine
I can research on my own
fading vale
I can't
vast basin
I haven't earned the rampage blessing yet womp <:Cry:951989084228812840>
Have shred instead? Cleave blessings are not useful on the new evis
coarse birch
Shred would work over perfect strike too
Perfect strike is pretty useless
Its +more cleave than you need with bad damage distribution
fading vale
but good luck finding direct formulas that aren't many layers deep and dependent on a shit ton of layers
granite hearth
I can do shred, awesome, thanks :D
fading vale
technically you can run shred and perfect strike and it's not that useless
you can light spam crushers lol
cause perfect strike is one of those mislabeled things
coarse birch
but good luck finding direct formulas that aren't many layers deep and dependent...
I take it the open source codd is not easy to follow
quartz hedge
man fuck this game. i want my plate armor
blissful sinew
perfect strike is 
fading vale
pstrike ignores armor stop on carapace and has a 0.25x hitmass modifier
vast basin
Well he already has bloodthirsty on the evis so he can just chain rev crushers instead of light spam
coarse birch
Isnt its main issue the damage falloff
blissful sinew
its mostly there to let you abuse cdr even with multiple crushers in your face
fading vale
I take it the open source codd is not easy to follow
things like blessings and talents are fairly straightforward, but finding specifically how calculations work takes a lot of layers and understanding
fading vale
I mean just ask cause we pretty much know, or I can ask crab in DMs
coarse birch
Cool
I mostly just wanna know so i can explain it to friends and whatnot, it wouldn't change what i run
Although ig if i can just tell them its good from exp then thats probably enough
delicate shadow
honestly I wouldn't bother unless you wanna get really nerdy about that stuff
placid fiber
Just listened to someone talk about how invisibility could work irl and what some pros and cons were based on how it would work and such... for the last half hour... man that half hour went by fast lol, this guy is entertaining
delicate shadow
Just listened to someone talk about how invisibility could work irl and what som...
hmm idk, I don't see it happening
coarse birch
If its really that obscure ig i can live with just knowing its good cause it is
placid fiber
Well with what they described... it would be more of a problem for the person themself honestly
Like could you see yourself or not?
sterile stone
Whatโs the latest scam shop looking like?
placid fiber
Scams made, just for you
coarse birch
Whatโs the latest scam shop looking like?
Vet helmets neat if you play vet
Which i think you do i played with a vet named argus once
exotic portal
Your ingame rn right?
psyker one too for revolver
frosty herald
exotic portal
Lazy dev for a full set
haughty haven
psyker one too for revolver
We heard ypu like vet so we made your vet look like a veteran
solar gorge
scion helmet will come back with it's own set in a different color
too good to pass up
ik they'll do it
naive star
๐
sharp zodiac
Nice
calm marten
calm salmon
psyker one too for revolver
I'm really enjoying the fact that zealot gets the same helmet 3 times this rotation
Combined, gas mask, helmet
open pollen
Lol
calm salmon
So fatshark can split this shit apart and sell it to us piece meal
but not let us customize head layers
calm salmon
like having a bionic eye and hat
open pollen
I feel one operator has to get the short stick each rotation, at least
calm salmon
or bionic eye and helmet
but nooooo, split the gasmask and helmet into two separate cosmetics and sell me all three ๐
calm salmon
the bionic eye is goated
that you can't even wear with a helmet
since it counts as the whole head cosmetic
solar gorge
i mean yeah but I like heaving my head helmetless usually
solar gorge
They'd have to alter the way equipping misc works a lot to allow that level of customisation sadly
sterile stone
Vet helmets neat if you play vet
The helmet gives you the Darth Vader voice
solar gorge
and they clearly didn't set it up for that
sterile stone
Kinda funny
vast basin
Imagine how many more clipping issues and bugs there would be when fatshark tries to make a more complicated cosmetic system
hushed agate
They'd have to alter the way equipping misc works a lot to allow that level of c...
Id like that
hushed agate
Use the steal jaw on my ogryn so unless i take the hood im rocking bald
open pollen
I just hate the way fatshark is doing cosmetics
Theres an alternate universe where we have a mask slot, an eye slot, a head slot and a hat slot.
coarse birch
The helmet gives you the Darth Vader voice
lol i didnt know that actually
solar gorge
Like I don't have the ogryn's head implant but it would be nice to be able to pair it with ironjaw
exotic portal
that you can't even wear with a helmet
too much to resonate with for a lazy dev, y know, not getting paid enough for that..
sharp zodiac
Vet helmets neat if you play vet
Definitely plan on buying it
Hope it goes well with the pirate chest
hushed agate
Hope it goes well with the pirate chest
Rogue trader?
exotic portal
Rogue trader?
sterile stone
lol i didnt know that actually
Someone thought I was a Ogryn when I spoke
sharp zodiac
Yeah
calm salmon
They'd have to alter the way equipping misc works a lot to allow that level of c...
All I'm asking for is an eye slot and helmet slot
sterile stone
It has that glowing eyes effect the ogryn mask has aswell which I love
hushed agate
Ah ok was confused
exotic portal
All I'm asking for is an eye slot and helmet slot
mouth piece too?? maybe?
calm salmon
that could crop up due to three layers on the head
solar gorge
All I'm asking for is an eye slot and helmet slot
Let them figure out how to get rid of clipping issues before releasing miscs and we'll see
exotic portal
that could crop up due to three layers on the head
pfft, devs could go through all cosmetics
calm salmon
you say that
exotic portal
works with rogue trader piece and the skulls
calm salmon
and yet Battlestate Games still has clipping issues
that actively affect combat performance
cause the hitbox of a head item is behind your face hitbox
exotic portal
you say that
They can if they want to
calm salmon
I wouldn't super trust fatshark to get it bang on
frosty herald
What tactical advantage do skulls have for a vox caster
exotic portal
I wouldn't super trust fatshark to get it bang on
Not my prob, it's doable for now.
solar gorge
must be very annoying to check every interactions to see if it clips
calm salmon
And the scion backpack is just still sitting there
gotta nickel and dime you for every single penny
exotic portal
It seems like tidious work
If there's only one dev on the cosmetics, no. if multiple, yes.
unity solves it
sterile stone
gotta nickel and dime you for every single penny
Truth
sterile stone
unity solves it
Theres a reason an art team exists.
solar gorge
I hope they don't assign a whole ass platoon to something as trivial as miscs
exotic portal
Theres a reason an art team exists.
pff team play..
steep flame
solar gorge
there's an actual game to dev
sterile stone
pff team play..
steep flame
and yet Battlestate Games still has clipping issues <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290...
mfw face shields
exotic portal
we learn from mistakes
sterile stone
sterile stone
Saddening
solar gorge
idk what kind of leftover it comes from
sterile stone
I'm guessing whatever Scion outfit they planned on making
Was some low effort outsourced garbage
And they scrapped almost all of it
onyx solar
And they scrapped almost all of it
I call bs, there's tons of low effort stuff out in the store lol
sterile stone
To be fair
steep flame
damn
sterile stone
And there's been nothing to disprove that.
Hence why you see newer bundles with the gold seal on them now.
solar gorge
doesn't seem to be any proofs aswell
sterile stone
I guess those were made "In house"
steep flame
i do wish certain cosmetics didnt ruin some hairstyles
sterile stone
I wish some outfits didn't look like ass
exotic portal
damn
Chat from the one i got kicked from, we learn from mistakes.
even ressed the fuckers before getting kicked
frosty herald
If fatshark puts out an update on januari 25th im gonna write a stern letter
sterile stone
People can be shit
sterile stone
If fatshark puts out an update on januari 25th im gonna write a stern letter
We speaking roman now
Januari
nimble fiber
februari
celest cave
Marchuari
steep flame
julite
sharp zodiac
Septembuar
sharp zodiac
"mods, kill this person"
ember yew
If fatshark puts out an update on januari 25th im gonna write a stern letter
January
2025
north sedge
north sedge
?
steep flame
i died at 2 wounds instead of 3
steep flame
no like, i have 3 wounds
ember yew
oh
steep flame
i just died after losing 2
ember yew
maybe you didnt saw a tiny corruption gauge?
native cargo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474859644494544898/1195016555206021141/im...
She look funny
steep flame
i still only got downed twice
native cargo
Chat from the one i got kicked from, we learn from mistakes.
O.o what did you do in chat yo warrant them wanting to kick you
exotic portal
O.o what did you do in chat yo warrant them wanting to kick you
Pride
sharp zodiac
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474859644494544898/1195016555206021141/im...
Hope that isnt the actual final product
open pollen
I will say, glad to finally get a good revolver skin.
ember yew
Hope that isnt the actual final product
That's final product, SF is a great meme material
sharp zodiac
open pollen
And the slab shield's not bad. The last few Ogryn weapon skins were satisfactory
ember yew
Chat from the one i got kicked from, we learn from mistakes.
should probably report that, since its justified (the report of intentional votekick after the end of the mission)
and for that is like 7 day ban
or 3, i dont remember
onyx solar
why'd they even kick you?
exotic portal
should probably report that, since its justified (the report of intentional vote...
geniuenlly ran off, and took care of 13 ish gunners, as they fell and said i ran off leaving them to fall before, putting the blame on me
losers, basic shit
ember yew
geniuenlly ran off, and took care of 13 ish gunners, as they fell and said i ran...
well, that's classic
ember yew
its like when you are dodging Chaos Spawn, 5 Crushers, 6 Berserkers and your team dies to 2 poxwalkers
somewhere
onyx solar
if those 3 were sticking together they have no excuse for dying when their knife zealot wasn't there
exotic portal
its like when you are dodging Chaos Spawn, 5 Crushers, 6 Berserkers and your tea...
popped off cause of a barrel, vet thought it was a poxburster.
leaving the carry with the stim or medkit left behind.
Fk em
woeful pecan
Hadron is not my friend.
exotic portal
if those 3 were sticking together they have no excuse for dying when their knife...
y know, some people want mentality, like keeping themselves up, and will pry it out like an animal until they "have" it
waste of time & effort
misty raven
Chat from the one i got kicked from, we learn from mistakes.
Wtf...
exotic portal
Wtf...
Now i screenshot before extracting like a solo mission
Way more honor in it, like seppuku
They dropping any hannya or oni masks for zealot soon?
lone pecan
Why is the zealot chat so unhinged from time to time?
drifting wolf
it's in the name
exotic portal
Preacher
steep flame
They dropping any hannya or oni masks for zealot soon?
that would be cool but idk if warhammer really has like, any japanese culture in it
aside from kamikaze
stone fern
guys i have a favor to ask would anyone be kind enough to share a screenshot of their melks store and their playtime with me?
i just need the top 5 items
hushed agate
Tau are the closest thing to Japanese culture if im not mistaken but there xenos
exotic portal
that would be cool but idk if warhammer really has like, any japanese culture in...
Mongols, but idk, prob never progressed on them, lore wise.
steep flame
why do people call tau weebs again?
hushed agate
Big mechas
steep flame
bruh
hushed agate
celest cave
that would be cool but idk if warhammer really has like, any japanese culture in...
Tau basically Japan.
buoyant sleet
Tau are blue Satyrs with mechas
dense valve
anyone here willing to discuss combat knives on zealot?
exotic portal
anyone here willing to discuss combat knives on zealot?
Nop.
celest cave
No
dense valve
is it ever worth it to take lacerate?
celest cave
Knife pretty mediocre weapon.
exotic portal
is it ever worth it to take lacerate?
Never.
hushed agate
Power spear
Where is his motor bike? No white scar is complete without there funny vroom
buoyant sleet
anyone here willing to discuss combat knives on zealot?
take full stealth tree, speed run the level as fast as you can, and make sure when your team needs help that you stealth and run and do not do a fucking thing but backstab random specials in the head before getting netted by a trapper through a staircase.
dense valve
thanks guys never change
ripe quest
guys i have a favor to ask would anyone be kind enough to share a screenshot of ...
960 hours.
ripe quest
what
exotic portal
ripe quest
I don't go after weeklies and most of my hours are solos
stone fern
960 hours.
thank you
ripe quest
and if I do get milk coins I spend it because of insatiable lust for shiny things
stone fern
I have a theory that there is another layer above the rng that gives you better stuff based on your play time
or missions played or something
i have 76 hours and the average of my store is 475.8
ripe quest
I'm doubtful it'd be that, if anything it's an xp thing.
stone fern
someone else' avg is 500.6 and the one before is 500.4 odd how close the numbers are if its true rng
yeah im trying to see if its hours played or xp
celest cave
Even if it true, you get something good from Melk once in a year. So whatever.
stone fern
ill check again after the store resets then check again after leaving the game on all day
ripe quest
Here's my level 44 Psyker.
buoyant sleet
sometimes melk has a shit weapon you can rip a tier 4 blessing off of
ripe quest
Level 59 Ogryn
ripe quest
If it means anything the first one I posted was a level 100 Zealot
stone fern
at least if this proves anything the grinding does something
onyx solar
Anyone have a good thunder hammer talent build they can share? Struggling to find the right combo for myself
ripe quest
Anyone have a good thunder hammer talent build they can share? Struggling to fin...
A good Thammer player uses this one. #zealot-class message
onyx solar
thank you
buoyant sleet
Last night I tried out Vraks 7 headhunter + Crusher, was actually pretty nice
I need to build a better Vraks 7 but the one I have is decent
fading vale
A good Thammer player uses this one. https://discord.com/channels/72707427672496...
๐ซก
exotic portal
lmfao
old badger
mannn I wish the new helmet+gas mask in the aquila shop was black
exotic portal
you are murdering all these people with da knife
Did twins first try, got called god tier knife zealot
zero deaths
First day of release
Should probally give in to something soon.
ember yew
maybe your knife is cursed
frozen ibex
This gud? I read crusher guide once and want to try it 
ember yew
after you throw it out, people will stop dying
coarse birch
This gud? I read crusher guide once and want to try it <a:nooooo:971102259490476...
Yeah thats good
frozen ibex
I think I will play loner stealth crusher. Veri cool
exotic portal
new revolver skin.......
inlayed silencer.
spare talon
hmmmmmj..........
exotic portal
Mobility is a dump stat?
frozen ibex
How do you kill crusher with crusher? Special heavy 1?
coarse birch
Special push attack
north sedge
Pa light heavy
onyx solar
north sedge
there's a handy dandy crusher guide in the pins
spare talon
Special push attack
it takes practice tho, since its hitbox is weird when charged
spare talon
im aware
frozen ibex
I think I do the gentleman way and just equip revolver.
spare talon
do i care? no
im already putting their head between the two thingies anyway
in fact id be able to see their head clearer
coarse birch
If you have wep customization wont matter
spare talon
If you have wep customization wont matter
i do but i dont have it on/updated
old badger
Im def grabbing that vet helmet
it shoulda been black
spare talon
running it causes terrible memory leaks that crashes the game every 45 min
frosty herald
just dont aim lmao
spare talon
I havent had issues
idk how
everyone in the modding discord has said that its just how it is and you have to deal with it
coarse birch
I once had a bug with wep customization where the gun ADS'd like i had a lasgun sight on it but the sight was invisible so the aiming was all fucked up but the bullet magnetism is so strong it didnt matter
spare talon
not me checking my bank account before buying 30 usd worth of aquilas (more than ill ever use)
coarse birch
idk how
everyone in the modding discord has said that its just how it is and you...
Huh
Odd
If i get the issues ill take it off
exotic portal
just dont aim lmao
spare talon
If i get the issues ill take it off
coarse birch
Maybe i haven't played for a long enough period
Ik memory leak is a general darktide issue too
If you play for long enough
spare talon
its just exacerbated by the use of mods
i actually dont get memory leak crashes when running like 27 other mods
its only with wep custom
ripe quest
I haven't ever had a memory related issue with Darktide but I'm also on 32 gigs
naive star
Any fellow Zealots to do the custom game penance? Speedrun under 20min map while low hp?
coarse birch
I haven't ever had a memory related issue with Darktide but I'm also on 32 gigs
Same
32 gigs is pog
frozen ibex
Made a better one for the memes.
spare talon
I haven't ever had a memory related issue with Darktide but I'm also on 32 gigs
as am i, but im also dealing with half of it always reading as being in use
meager turret
Any fellow Zealots to do the custom game penance? Speedrun under 20min map while...
Could, in a game right now
slate notch
Are hwswords worth trying in a crit build?
naive star
Could, in a game right now
Ok logging in
spare talon
Are hwswords worth trying in a crit build?
yes imo
ive run them for quite a while and to great effect cuz of how many targets they hit for ability cooldown
youre still trading lower crit chance/cdr chance for more outright damage that the heavy swords offer compared to weapons that can get shred, but thats not that much of an issue tbh
slate notch
yes imo
ive run them for quite a while and to great effect cuz of how many targe...
Been using devil's claw and might try with a mk IX this time, let's see
ripe quest
as am i, but im also dealing with half of it always reading as being in use
That's pretty normal, general experience for people is that up to half of memory is like "cached" by the OS. I think the only time it doesn't do that is if you have really low memory and it needs more or you have like 64 gigs and it caps out.
spare talon
Been using devil's claw and might try with a mk IX this time, let's see
i did the inverse, started with mk9 then moved to dclaw
youll certainly be killing faster, but youll get noticibly less cooldown reduction
ripe quest
Are hwswords worth trying in a crit build?
It's okish, worse than a Chainsword, Evis, or Dclaw imo.
slate notch
i did the inverse, started with mk9 then moved to dclaw
youll certainly be killi...
Yeah, that's my main concern. I'm so used to have the cd always up
spare talon
Yeah, that's my main concern. I'm so used to have the cd always up
youll still have it up a LOT
ripe quest
Hsword using Deathblow and lacking a crit blessing can impact how synergetic it is. Also the usual low finesse multipliers.
It just kinda likes the +damage Keystones a bit more as well again due to Deathblow.
slate notch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752156106071081021/1176792650553245747/Wa...
Looks good imo. Blessings? My hsword has headtaker and deathblow
spare talon
gotta find it in my massive pile first lmao
ripe quest
Looks like a HT + Rampage
spare talon
yeah but i wanna show stats too
hswords are a little harder to build for cuz there really isnt a 2nd dump stat
i mean cleave stats are less important, but having them is still better than not
having low of either will certainly start to hit you in gameplay
@quaint verge whats that 
for
quaint verge
The name 
spare talon
oh you dont like it?
quaint verge
lone pecan
Is that a mod or can I change names on Xbox too? 
obtuse solstice
Does chastising before shooting a boss increase damage? I know it downgrades armor but I dunno what unyielding downgrades to
lost solar
Made a better one for the memes.
frontline stagger zealot gang unite
north sedge
mod
lost solar
it just sucks spamming the moveset for 30 minutes
frozen ibex
frontline stagger zealot gang unite
I don't know how to play it well. It's so hard compared to combat axe or knife.
lost solar
I don't know how to play it well. It's so hard compared to combat axe or knife.
if u are in pinch L1 block cancel/special and L1 again for the stagger
heavy heavy PA vs elite
L H L H L H general horde
frozen ibex
It does low damage. Or Idk maybe the ragdoll animations make it seems like low damage.
spare talon
Figured <:throwing:991349984182161559>
i feel your pain
i only built a pc that could run the game a month ago
i was playing darktide through cloud gaming for the entire year prior, so i was unable to use mods that entire time
lost solar
chastice with momentum
lost solar
It does low damage. Or Idk maybe the ragdoll animations make it seems like low d...
weapons have different cleave limit
1for dmg 1 for stagger
north sedge
check the pins for crusher guide
lost solar
its like a shield ogryn build 
fading vale
BM caxe be like yo dawg I heard you want to spam m1 and outdamage everything else for free
lone pecan
i feel your pain
i only built a pc that could run the game a month ago
i was pla...
I'm not asking for much, just some qol mods or something maybe, or better yet, have that stuff in the game. But small indie company
lost solar
I'm not asking for much, just some qol mods or something maybe, or better yet, h...
dw in vermintide there are bugs in the game since day1 still havent fixed
year 2156 fathsark fixed vermintide's last remaining bug
the universe turned upside down then exploded to bits
and thats how everything ended
spare talon
new global modifier!!
snoozefest!
the challenge is to try not to fall asleep!
lost solar
new global modifier!!
snoozefest!
the challenge is to try not to fall asleep!
topleft corner click on the arrow for aurc
fading vale
bruh is he alive
coarse birch
LMAO
frosty herald
bruh is he alive
may he rest in peace
coarse birch
Bro actually just faceplanted and called it a day
fading vale
this is one of the best Steve poses yet
coarse birch
I wish i could be like steve rn
frosty herald
if hes floppy hes just in a very deep sleep
heavy arch
nice kitty
meager turret
Ok logging in
well I'm ready
fading vale
bruh is he alive
@hushed knoll
heavy arch
cara to flack
dense valve
yeah i think flack instead of carapace then something for quickflame
coarse birch
Flack
dense valve
but im not sure what
heavy arch
i like quickflame a lot on mine
fading vale
WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO THIS?
I WOULD WAIT FOR OVERPRESSURE TO BE FIXED BEFORE REPLACING QUICKFLAME
dense valve
ive not really looked into flamer blessings tbh
fading vale
none of them do anything except for blaze away
dense valve
its fitting youre shouting but i did apologise for the caps
fading vale
it's true but I had to at least respond with one all caps
dense valve
and asking if lacerate is working taking is not a dumb question if you dont really play zealot
coarse birch
I was just joining the bit tbh
dense valve
i would never take it on psyker but i wanted to know if its ever worth taking on zealot
fading vale
lacerate is just bad flesh tearer
dense valve
thats my thoughts too
fading vale
and usually uncanny and precog are recommended
coarse birch
The issue with lacerate is it just doesnt take advantage of knifes strengths
dense valve
but i also thought if im hitting weakspots they are dying anyway
fading vale
but flesh tearer if you want to bleed
dense valve
yeah im running uncanny flesh atm
fading vale
always uncanny though
fading vale
ruthless is bad uncanny, uncanny buffs bleed and everything else you do, ruthless only effects knife backstabs
dense valve
but with it you can kill 2 crushers with 1 use of invis no?
and i dont think uncanny would let you do that, i dont know though
fading vale
uh, it's not intended to be able to get 2 stealth hits off, but uncanny would you just need to be hitting more often to have stacks, regardless backstabbing crushers shouldn't be the decision maker
dense valve
cool, thanks for the knowledge
dense valve
yeah for sure
okay and is there anything perks wise i need to be aware of or just standard flak cara
frank night
post steve
coarse birch
Steve was just posted
frank night
WHERE
fading vale
post steve
scroll up for amazing Steve
frank night
bruh is he alive
excellent steve
spare talon
but with it you can kill 2 crushers with 1 use of invis no?
i thought they patched that out
fading vale
okay and is there anything perks wise i need to be aware of or just standard fla...
always flak and then you can kind of choose from elites/unyielding/cara/maniac
frank night
bro looks like he woke up thinking it was friday
dense valve
works for me still
spare talon
the 2 swings with invis
fading vale
yeah the mid animation bug is still a thing
final belfry
doubt its that much of a bug
fading vale
too bad stealth and chastise still don't work for chain weapons
final belfry
if anything it reads as grace period after activation
hushed knoll
bruh is he alive
OMG WAKE UP
spare talon
then were they patching something else out?
with how they said it, it seems like thats what they patched out
dense valve
every time i play this invis stealth thing it just feels a million times worse than the normal zealot builds i run
hushed knoll
Lmao is he ok
fading vale
he just big sleepin
pale kelp
that image tickles me
north sedge
you can work around it
dense valve
you need to start the animation then press it
fading vale
only if you land the hit and then press chastise
dense valve
yeah
fading vale
which I would qualify as not working
dense valve
thats only because its applying the damage and crits to the small ticks
visual stream
That's depressing to hear
dense valve
and misses the last large tick at the end
north sedge
i mean, it works better than stealth
dense valve
or so i thought
visual stream
As someone who wanted to try evis
north sedge
which stops your rev if you try the same thing
fading vale
nah it's not just the last tick
you don't get the melee damage buff or the armor downgrade on anything but the first hit unless you F after if lands
ripe quest
With chain weapons and Fury you get one boosted crit hit and then the next hit is also a normal crit hit, assuming you hit the rev and then ult during it
fading vale
they fixed the crit like last January and then never fixed the rest of it
dense valve
do you think the 2 or 15 is better?
ripe quest
II is better for crowds and the XV is better single target
dense valve
i havent played much zealot since they added the new one
ripe quest
All the new variants for chain weapons follow that
Though I do think they need to nerf the XIIIg Chainsword's horde clear because it's only slightly worse at it than the IV and way better for single target
And Chainsword already has the best horde clear a Zealot melee can offer so like idk
slate notch
Is wrath any good on evis?
ripe quest
It can be used instead of SS, it'll drop stacks if you miss though
It has the same cap of +Cleave as SS so it's a sidegrade
slate notch
I have a "good" evis with wrath and shred
ripe quest
What Mk is it
slate notch
XV
dense valve
what would you run alongside SS? i have momentum on mine but i often feel like i dont need it
ripe quest
mmm I'd personally swap Wrath to Rampage if it's available but if you have bad perks prio that
ripe quest
what would you run alongside SS? i have momentum on mine but i often feel like i...
Rampage
dense valve
and perks is again flak cara?
ripe quest
On the XV you don't always run +Cleave
slate notch
mmm I'd personally swap Wrath to Rampage if it's available but if you have bad p...
dmg to elite and unarmored
ripe quest
dmg to elite and unarmored
I'd personally swap Unarmored to +Flak and Wrath to Rampage but it's up to you.
slate notch
I'd personally swap Unarmored to +Flak and Wrath to Rampage but it's up to you.
will try it, thanks!
ripe quest
and perks is again flak cara?
Cara hits the crit 1 shot on Crushers, cool with Bloodthirsty since you can chain it
So yee those perks are fine
Though you could swap it for something else but I'd check to see what BPs you would hit first
ornate bone
How does it works????
ripe quest
How does it works????
Base toughness on melee kill is 5%, that talent increases it to 7.5%.
quaint verge
50% of that 5%
meager turret
wouldn't that be a dream
visual stream
Base toughness on melee kill is 5%, that talent increases it to 7.5%.
Sounds like a minimal importance talent but I wonder how much of an impact that makes on cleave weapons in hordes
Never tried it but considering losing Holy Rev for it
ornate bone
Imagine killing 2 (two) poxwalkers and regaining your 200 toughness
ripe quest
Sounds like a minimal importance talent but I wonder how much of an impact that ...
It's generally taken as a point tax for Second Wind.
visual stream
Imagine killing 2 (two) poxwalkers and regaining your 200 toughness
Biblically Accurate Zealot
ornate bone
People only take blood redemption if they aren't doing a crit zealot
ripe quest
It's passive like a couple of toughness talents
ornate bone
Which is weird, but still a thing
ripe quest
EWEW is similarly low impact but ever present
ripe quest
Imagine killing 2 (two) poxwalkers and regaining your 200 toughness
This is actually kinda why crit CDR is so goofy rn, imagine swinging into a clump of any fodder enemy and getting all your toughness back
Don't even need to kill them
ornate bone
0% damage chorus eviscerator build
ornate bone
50% of that 5%
yes
heavy arch
cdr fury makes me play how many times can i spam f and lmb nonstop
steel agate
it gets u so fury-ful i cant even understand ur sentence
steel agate
granted is only like 1 word off a functional sentence so it aint too bad
steel agate
i tried reading it aloud and i had a bit of a brain fart
lone pecan
Base toughness on melee kill is 5%, that talent increases it to 7.5%.
Why did I think it was 5 toughness? Now it makes sense why we would run 3 toughness curios 
hybrid path
what the hell is a ranged backstab attack?
steel agate
what the hell is a ranged backstab attack?
a ranged thingy hitting their back
north sedge
ranged attack from behind
steel agate
aka the knifes, bullets, etc
obtuse solstice
which one? I heard that shattering is bugged or something
obtuse solstice
but 5% less dmg 
lone pecan
Right one sounds more useful to me, but I'm no expert
steel agate
but 5% less dmg <:THONK:442446969886081034>
inspect the weapon, see how much that 5% really makesa diff on its base damage
it isnt bottom roll damage so its still good
obtuse solstice
inspect the weapon, see how much that 5% really makesa diff on its base damage
just a couple %, my main question is cavalcade vs shattering (or surgical maybe?)
steel agate
i like shattering on my bolters so i'd just keep the right one the way it is
bugged or not is FS, they'll fix it eventually 
pale kelp
TIL that Thy Wrath Be Swift hitstun applies to ranged attacks despite clarifying melee
also that snipers can pull demon hosts, presumably by collateral-ling it
(these two aren't related)
ripe quest
Why did I think it was 5 toughness? Now it makes sense why we would run 3 toughn...
All toughness regen except for coherency regen is % based.
lone pecan
Thy Wrath Be Swift is the best thing ever for that very reason
spare talon
very low graphics made possible by modding really breaks the game
power supply interruption
steel agate
very low graphics made possible by modding really breaks the game
hows ur frames tho
ripe quest
TIL that Thy Wrath Be Swift hitstun applies to ranged attacks despite clarifying...
So many unlisted features in this game.
It's great
steel agate
is very important
ripe quest
so cool
spare talon
hows ur frames tho
smooth 90
steel agate
then i see no problems 
shy river
I dream of a thammer with thrust 4 and hadron loves crushing my dreams
steel agate
i play on default low settings on a outdated gaming laptop and frames be eating me alive
spare talon
then i see no problems <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
it makes visual impairment modifiers either way worse or a non issue
lone pecan
All toughness regen except for coherency regen is % based.
And chip damage is based on total toughness lost or based on the % that is lost?
spare talon
sometimes its literally vantablack and other times the lighting is better
ripe quest
And chip damage is based on total toughness lost or based on the % that is lost?...
% that is lost. If you have 95% toughness you take 5% chip damage iirc.
pale kelp
so cool
it's... something... apparently the very existence of ranged attacks pushing you back is a bug that came back some months ago???
it is at times like these, I do wonder what in the hell is goin on with this game
spare talon
its a bug????
steep flame
lone pecan
% that is lost. If you have 95% toughness you take 5% chip damage iirc.
Okay, but enemy attacks still only deal a fixed amount of toughness damage so having more is still great
pale kelp
its a bug????
so says people on the reddits
spare talon
so says people on the reddits
i doubt it then
ripe quest
Afaik the suppression and stagger has always been a thing, the pushback I'm not too sure. I've always remembered that Reapers have knockback.
spare talon
if its coming from reddit
pale kelp
/shrug/ I wouldnae know, I've played for 2 weeks
spare talon
they think that the left side of the piety tree gives everyone 33% crit chance
spare talon
just slide
pale kelp
they think that the left side of the piety tree gives everyone 33% crit chance
an enlightened people, truly
pale kelp
just slide
that's 1 more button, that's wholly too many buttons to be pressing
spare talon
that's 1 more button, that's wholly too many buttons to be pressing
then youre not playing zealot right
you should be basically face smashing your keyboard
lone pecan
Or run at 45ยฐ at the shooters, then they will miss
spare talon
pale kelp
you should be basically face smashing your keyboard
that does sound tempting...
ripe quest
Okay, but enemy attacks still only deal a fixed amount of toughness damage so ha...
Mhm. Before the class overhaul some people ran 3x HP curios on Ogryn since Lynchpin and TRS would let you hit 100% toughness faster and therefore prevent chip damage more often. Lynchpin still exists but Ogryn also has like 50% toughness regen per each breath so I doubt that's still the case.
mighty kelp
How does zealot compete in the maelstrom mission with no ammo and hella carapace ?
mighty kelp
Okay what
The fuck
My mate asked why his damage was so abysmal and I have no clue about zealot
ripe quest
Fury of the Faithful has a 3 second armor degrade for ranged weapons, drops Carapace to Flak ADMs and Flak to Unarmored.
lone pecan
Mhm. Before the class overhaul some people ran 3x HP curios on Ogryn since Lynch...
Haven't played Ogryn yet, the only thing I read is that they have highest base health and that's why running HP curios is 'best' on them, as it gives a lot more value than on other classes
mighty kelp
This was the game in question
mighty kelp
Haven't played Ogryn yet, the only thing I read is that they have highest base h...
Most people run 2 toughness 1 hp on ohryn
north sedge
you have to stack burn before chastising with flamer, like in the video, for it to work right
also depends on weapon choice
there's melee weapons that do fine against cara
ripe quest
Haven't played Ogryn yet, the only thing I read is that they have highest base h...
It's debatable, with how much Toughness regen Ogryn (and everyone) has you can face tank stuff if you stack Toughness. Ogryn also has an innate 36% Toughness DR and 20% HP DR to aid this.
If you stack Toughness you'll be able to eat more damage before it starts effecting health and whatnot
lone pecan
I will keep that in mind when I start leveling an Ogryn, of course I will also read their holy bible, which we don't have sadly
thick nacelle
Is the news outfits available in Hallowette shop ?
mighty kelp
Ogrynomicon is such a freaking good recourse
ripe quest
iirc on Ogryn you can stack TDR and tank sniper shots with just Toughness still
Zealot can as well
Vet probs can but I haven't ever checked
lone pecan
'Dumbest' characters have the best guide, figures huh?
ripe quest
A couple playtesters whipped up the Ogrynomicon before the update was even out, had a bunch of insider knowledge to prep for it
also photoshop skills
mighty kelp
I mean stuff been out for a while now, having earlier access isn't a excuse anymore
ripe quest
This is true, I think the current reason for a lack of a guide is our good players just don't really want to. It's a lot of effort and we don't have those kind of people who like making guides.
It'll probably just end up being a large sum of smaller documents.
mighty kelp
Yeah it's not to be understated how much work they did for ogrynomicon
ripe quest
A real classic this one is
lone pecan
It gets the point across, it's a great infographic 
spare talon
i just held the attention of 3 crushers, 10 ragers, a flamer, and a trapper, which were all of the enemies that were up and out
and the 3 other guys just sat on the other side of the room and jerked themsleves off
ripe quest
spare talon
so when a random enemy block one of my dodges, i go down from full health and they just cant get me up
almost like there was a whole army or something they had been ignoring
dense field
i just held the attention of 3 crushers, 10 ragers, a flamer, and a trapper, whi...
You don't understand, they covered your back!
ember yew
what the hell is a ranged backstab attack?
You are flying like Liu Kang performing Chuck Norri's flying roundhouse kick
spare talon
and now theyre quickly being whittled down
almost like theyre actually having to kill things now that im not there to do it for them
north sedge
smth I'm whipping up has this as its peak work. Some real <:door:113404264724221...
ah flesh tearer lacerate is king, got it
spare talon
this dude is just sitting in a corner blocking as a boss keeps wailing on him
no ones coming to save you dude
youre the last alive due to this kind of behavior
mystic ether
dense valve
I dream of a thammer with thrust 4 and hadron loves crushing my dreams
be careful what you wish for.
is the flamer viable with chorus or shroud?
shy river
be careful what you wish for.
I would take that just to harvest the blessing, I already got slaughterer and headtaker 4
dense valve
ha this one was baby's first thammer, i am gonna eat it for thrust as soon as i have a better option to put it on
fading vale
so when a random enemy block one of my dodges, i go down from full health and th...
you ever fight a whole army alone and then look back and see your 3 teammates fighting 1 bulwark
fading vale
be careful what you wish for.
how many rolls did it take you to get thrust 4
dense valve
on a trash thammer :L
fading vale
I've rolled hammers since November 2022
and I've never once rolled thrust 4 on an upgrade
fading vale
oh you meant first roll on that specific hammer
fading vale
is the flamer viable with chorus or shroud?
I'd say flamer is notably worse without chastise cause movement and crushers
dense valve
it was the first weapon i made at lvl 30 on my first 30, zealot
fading vale
oh... yeah well fuck you
dense valve
๐
i also got surge on my first ever void staff
i have never seen flesh tearer though so thats something
fading vale
I've literally only rolled hammers for 14 months AND I'VE NEVER ROLLED THRUST 4 FROM HADRON
ember yew
I've literally only rolled hammers for 14 months AND I'VE NEVER ROLLED THRUST 4 ...
so you just bought from melk?
ember yew
fading vale
I just want a natty 80/60 thrust 4 unyielding 4 hammer
dense valve
when you say 80/60 what do you mean?
fading vale
80/60 spread on a 380 with correct dump stat
fading vale
uh not really no
dense valve
fading vale
my efforts thus far
median steeple
fading vale
I have an 80/60 (close to it) but it has T2 maniac
nah I use the 51% CC hammer
it's the best of the lot
median steeple
server moment
fading vale
it is but, 51 CC is only like 3% attack speed loss and the stagger doesn't change anything and it's not cleave
ember yew
you ever fight a whole army alone and then look back and see your 3 teammates fi...
and then Bulwark downs one of them
fading vale
hammer doesn't have a cleave stat
stiff mirage
dense valve
it is but, 51 CC is only like 3% attack speed loss and the stagger doesn't chang...
it sayd "cleave damage distribution"
and then different CC numbers show a different stat for the number of cleave tragets
is this just lying?
fading vale
the scaling is too small to matter
dense valve
and it scales from 13.5 - 16.5
thats like, 2 more poxwalkers
per swing
it lists the scale as 12.5 - 17.5
fading vale
but you also have thrust and slaughterer for more cleave, anyways I want the trip 80s in damage stats
dense valve
yeah for sure im just saying cc on hammer isnt like a bad or dump stat
fading vale
no it's not a dump stat but it's not bad to dump a bit
dense valve
and i thought its thrust skullcrusher?
modest quiver
both of these are viable, right?
dense valve
you say that but why?
fading vale
cc gives you attackspeed iirc?
yes but the scaling is tiny
skullcrusher is never going to buff your single target damage on anything meaningful
minor sage
yeah but 3% attackspeed is 3% attackspeed lol
dense valve
THATS NOT WHAT ITS FOR THOUGH
sry caps
you have thrust and the fact its a crucis and your perks for single target, everything else is always staggered
fading vale
hammer attack speed is even too low to benefit from follow ups and the follow ups always kill in the next swing anyways
and skullcrusher requires them to be in a specific stagger state
dense valve
okay
spare dome
fading vale
with skullcrusher you never benefit on the first swing
dense valve
well you do, often
fading vale
you give 4 stacks of debuff on the first swing
dense valve
you have 3 team mates
fading vale
and then after the debuff is applied, if they are wobbling or on the floor then the damage bonus applies
dense valve
so if they are staggered by something else on your first swing it wont do anything?
fading vale
nope
dense valve
that is actually trash
north sedge
slaughter/headtaker will just kill, skullcrusher just makes things take longer and you'll have less cleave
dense valve
yeah its one of those things thats hard to test by yourself
north sedge
only weapon skullcrusher actually works on is crusher, hilariously
fading vale
no respite is the only blessing that takes current stagger into account without debuffs
dense valve
i assumed it would apply in game if somebody else staggered the target first
fading vale
also if you didn't know no respite stacks up to 7 times
multiplies against the current stagger count of the enemy
which is why it's so goated on shotguns
gray ice
I'm glad they didn't neuter it when they fixed infinite stacking
fading vale
I think the infinite stacking was mostly a bonbon fix
gray ice
It was, but I thought for sure that the stacks were gonna get capped at like 3 or something due to it being so good
fading vale
even at 3 stacks it would be dope lol
dense valve
so specialist damage to flak and this is good?
gray ice
Yea for sure
fading vale
so specialist damage to flak and this is good?
hmm
dense valve
i think scattershot is too good not to take
gray ice
Hmm not on kant really
fading vale
not a huge crit fan on kant, it has the lowest finesse scaling
olive raven
on kant nah
north sedge
it's better on the other two
fading vale
and crit doesn't effect the fire shot
olive raven
id take deathspitter or something
dense valve
i thought it made it apply double stacks
gray ice
Crit to flak and scatter to some actual dmg would be fine for that
fading vale
only on flamer
scatter isn't terrible or anything cause the bugged stacking
but assuming they fix the stacking I would not take it on kant for sure
dense valve
cant you gurantee max stacks with the fire shot? would that not be good?
sorry im massive noob on zealot
fading vale
you can guarantee max stacks with any shot
cause it uses the cleave list
and not what you hit
but it has the lowest crit scaling
I'd replace crit with flak and you can leave it as is and wait to change scattershot if you want
I'd say deathspitter/FF/FB are gonna be better overall though
though FF and deathspitter don't proc off the special which is annoying
gray ice
Yea i kinda lean toward full bore for that reason
fading vale
I like close range hipfire so I go FF
gray ice
Even with it being a lil less consistent due to kant spread, it still has good uptime
Also really nice not having to stack it on rager packs
fading vale
I miss 400% FF
gray ice
royal vortex
๐
frank night
you ever fight a whole army alone and then look back and see your 3 teammates fi...
I had a hi int where I was behind a shipping container fighting a steady stream of ragers while being pinned down by about 10 gunners
gray ice
I feel that
frank night
and the plasteel notification sound kept going off
fading vale
I stand by my belief that plasteel is the most toxic thing in the game
polar nexus
both of these are viable, right?
lacerate to flesh tearer on the first one
fading vale
and not just for crafting reasons
royal vortex
and the plasteel notification sound kept going off
as god intended
gray ice
Why help team-mate when plasteel addiction needs feeding
frank night
as god intended
have u awoken at 5pm
fading vale
like why in the fuck do we have a mechanic that makes people run off into pointless corners
when the whole game is everyone holding W together
frank night
๐ exploration
spare dome
i make good money in some of those alleys
frank night
i make good money in some of those alleys
gray ice
fading vale
my response
did you see the latest Steve
frank night
why am i listening to the cyberpunk radio tracks on spotify while playing cyberpunk
im a fkn baked bean ong
gray ice
Immersion
royal vortex
did you see the latest Steve
i dunno
gray ice
It's important
royal vortex
why am i listening to the cyberpunk radio tracks on spotify while playing cyberp...
twice the ad jingle potential
royal vortex
good steve
fading vale
I walked into the room and was just like, are you OK?
visual stream
why am i listening to the cyberpunk radio tracks on spotify while playing cyberp...
Reminds me of non stop pop station from GTAV
gray ice
steve is having a crisis please give him my regards
ripe quest
ah flesh tearer lacerate is king, got it
frank night
modest quiver
lacerate to flesh tearer on the first one
ripe quest
I also made this one for equality to the knife players
polar nexus
that's a legit bleed knife
muted egret
Should I use perfect strike on mk xv evis? I'm running piety
polar nexus
rampage shred
muted egret
Ah
polar nexus
you don't need perfect strike
cerulean pike
Only reason for more cleave on the mk 15 is to stagger more things
Which really only applies when youโre soloing
muted egret
Aigjt imma switch it out
ripe quest
Should I use perfect strike on mk xv evis? I'm running piety
Not on the XV no
Perfect Strike + Shred on the II can be fun though
obtuse solstice
xv is just so damn slow
muted egret
My ass just light spams with the mk 2
Bru you missing out on the special heavy sweel
cerulean pike
Not really