zealot-class

[ornate bone]

I ethnically torture them instead

[old badger]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-yes-the-negotiator-the-negotiator-general-kenobi-general-grievous-star-wars-gif-23623581

literally me rn

[ornate bone]

When someone makes a minor mistake, I call them Albanian instead of a racial slur because it's socially acceptable

[old badger]

especially if you're bosnian

[ornate bone]

Being a true Eastern European is knowing which nationality hurts the most when pointed out

[native cargo]

The Balkans need to play musical chairs or smth

Swap spots as nations

[ornate bone]

The vet's face turning red in anger after I call him a Serbian

(He insults me back in Serbian)

[native cargo]

The psyker blowing up after you remind them Croats exist

[frank night]

unfortunately for the world and Sterling

Sterling is still conscious

[royal vortex]

be nice

[native cargo]

Pickle

[left iron]

This move set speaks to me on a higher level

[frank night]

hello keith

[ember yew]

u wanna practice later?

im playing character nobody is playing

[drowsy steppe]

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-angry-cat-funny-cat-memes-gif-14595486679217135725

[lean lark]

melk woke up cooking

[hushed knoll]

HI MITTINS

[hushed knoll]

STEVE HI

[fading vale]

Hi stan

[hushed knoll]

Hi finnlaidicuye lyfe sheets

What’s Gucci laz

[fading vale]

just bing chillin

[hushed knoll]

[placid lily]

I HERE

[frank night]

excellent steve

helo stan

[placid lily]

[lean lark]

shame i dont like crusher

[hidden verge]

is this sword looking good?

[celest cave]

Looks fine. Infested to flak and Skullcrasher into SS/Shred.

[lean lark]

skullcrusher to savage sweep and infested to flak

[hidden verge]

thanks

[drowsy steppe]

hes in a blanket ❤️

[fading vale]

actually that's his cat tree

[blazing fossil]

Saw a zealot with a Tac axe earlier. Is that a thing?

[fading vale]

it's kind of usable just worse than pretty much everything else

[fading vale]

here is cat tree view

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/bag-cat-將將-gif-22083522

[ornate bone]

Cute kitty

[fiery ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-soup-bowl-gif-26993749

[copper hawk]

EVIL KITY !

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-burger-cat-sandwich-cute-cat-cute-pets-ringodanyan-gif-26187997

He is food

[frosty herald]

He will be baked

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/706599472960110672/1193676722227396779/annoyed_cat.gif?ex=65ad9514&is=659b2014&hm=a5e5c062c4567b0799ce4b07aec994e5937629922670b1cd2e457d4297980407&

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/intense-baking-cat-evil-biscuits-gif-24041808

It's the outcome for being such intense bakers

[frank night]

bonus steve

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826159430751748136/1193861704866599002/agoDerW_460svvp9.webm?ex=65ae415b&is=659bcc5b&hm=998f2771afb0c1c9e9a4739b04c520db6e90a6e1667f2ad09e6f93e50d4420f7&

[vague depot]

As stealth zealot when I’m backstabbing something should I just do chain heavy attacks or special light spam

[solar gorge]

depends on what weapon ur using

and what's your target

[hollow mantle]

Generally light spam if you are killing lots of small stuff or have a group of elites. But youll want to use heavies more often on higher HP targets or if there's just one thing and you can oneshot it.

Kinda just comes down to what's going to clear them fastest and safest

Crushers, bulwarks, maulers, reapers, all better for heavy spam. If you have uncanny strike though and need to get stacks up then lights first can be good for that

But if you are dancing around a big group of bullshit and need to put damage down then light spam is generally better I think. Mix in heavies on high priority targets but keep your uncanny strikes stacks up and keep an eye out for a crusher or mauler head

That's all just for knife though

[fiery ingot]

at what moment should i chastise when using flamer to deal with elites?

im at the psykhanium rn and i cant kill a crusher without reloading once

he actually survives with a tiny portion of health

so am i doing something wrong or just missing breakpoint?

[ornate bone]

Isn't it flamer a bit then chastise

[thorn imp]

whats your flamer

[ornate bone]

Also ye what's the stats on it

[fiery ingot]

i've been told that the other blessing isnt working rn and that damage stat really doesnt matter for flamer, only cloud and burn above 76

[thorn imp]

Thats probably as good as it gets rn

you stack a bit then chastise

[fiery ingot]

should i swap flak for elite?

[solar gorge]

overpressure is bugged iirc

[fiery ingot]

yeah thats what i've been doing

but he survives with a tiny bit of health before i need to reload

is it supposed to be like this?

[solar gorge]

can't wait for it to be fixed

i have a god flamer with overpressure

[thorn imp]

Idk, I dont like flamer, but I would keep the second roll for overpressure if they decide to fix it at some point

[fiery ingot]

yeah thats what i've been thinking too

[thorn imp]

Probably after the elite health buffs and no flamer buff made it like that

[fiery ingot]

i got clutched by a zealot with flamer and knife in a auric maelstrom run once and it seemed so fun his build that i wanted to give it a try

ah

elites got buffed?

thought they nerfed ragers health and thats all

[thorn imp]

Idk about the last patch with new weapons, some enemies got health buffed on the talent patch tho

[prisma sigil]

I thought they buffed ragers health

[fiery ingot]

they reduced by 1k i think

[thorn imp]

no everything went up

[fiery ingot]

my mistake it was from 1200 to 1000

yeah, but in the latest major patch they nerfed

[thorn imp]

yeah I just checked

But you asked about crushers so thats probably why

[fiery ingot]

does flamer benefit from inexorable judgement at all?

the burn dmg doesnt seem to be benefiting from any stacks

[obtuse solstice]

I am going to murder hadron

[thorn imp]

no idea if it affects burn stack damage

[misty raven]

I feel weird about flamer. I feel naked at range when the director goes "oops all gunners" like I already have melee

[thorn imp]

Throwing knife is an option for flamer

Thats also why I hate the flamer

kitchen knife cringe

[flat marsh]

Run knife so that you end up becoming the ranged weapon when you throw yourself at the enemy

[thorn imp]

knife bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078868665769934909.webp?size=48&name=BASED&quality=lossless

[flat marsh]

Tbh a crit knife build is honestly the tankiest/highest survivability build I have

[fiery ingot]

i like throwing knives

[verbal thunder]

I also don't really see the point of the flamer atm

Just use melee to clear

[fiery ingot]

i wish vet had them instead of useless smoke nade

[flat marsh]

Flamer is really good at taking on mixed horde

[prisma sigil]

Ragers voices are hilarious because they have like a random pitch shift

[verbal thunder]

So is chastise the wicked eviscerator though

[prisma sigil]

So some times they're just comically high pitched like Alvin and the chipmunks

[fiery ingot]

yeah but doing that on ranged while taking on multiple packs at once is cool as well

[flat marsh]

Flamer is just way safer for you and the team and likely does it faster since it goes through enemies

[fading vale]

how many times do we have to say the best part about flamer is not clearing trash mobs

[verbal thunder]

Wtb a shotgun with a flamer on it

[flat marsh]

Best quote in the game:

BLBLBLBLBLBLBL
~ scab stalker

[prisma sigil]

Melee is always safer for me because I can't keep my toughness up with ranged

[verbal thunder]

And fair I s'pose

[prisma sigil]

All the melee crits keeps my chastise on a very low CD so I'm constantly maxing out my toughness

[fiery ingot]

hey @fading vale could you help me with this?

[flat marsh]

Just stand next to your teammates if you're not getting hit?

[verbal thunder]

Never found the flamer earth shattering myself, feels like it needs a buff, or a secondary fire mode

[prisma sigil]

Sounds boring

[verbal thunder]

There's a sick gun in Payday 2 that's an LMG with an underbarrel flamethrower

So dumb but amazing

[flat marsh]

I use the flamer to compensate for knife in case a large elite pack comes in

But I barely use it otherwise because knife just does everything for me

And throwing knives

[fading vale]

I'm not sure if you can kill it in one chastise, the max damage do a crusher would be build 15 burn stacks with a blaze away flamer and press F and keep holding, obv cara and elites would help

[fiery ingot]

oh so it is supposed to be like that then

thought i was doing something wrong

[fading vale]

in game you can either use 2 chastises or typically some other damage will be splashed onto the crusher pack by team

[prisma sigil]

I have a shotgun but I basicslly never use it, yeah. Tknives take care of ranged specials pretty well

[fading vale]

but they will be low health and easy to clean up regardless

[fiery ingot]

oh yeah i havent brought this to runs yet i was just messing around with true solo to test it out

and found out that flamer for some reason doesnt go through bulwarks like kantrael shotty does

[fading vale]

kant infinite cleave is unique

[fiery ingot]

im starting to think that slug is actually magic

[flat marsh]

Personally, I run bolter or flamer with throwing knives just to compensate each other's weaknesses. Throwing knives are sorta dookie against bulwarks or mass elites

[fading vale]

it used to go through walls when it came out

[flat marsh]

And flamer/bolter lacks speed or range

[fading vale]

flamer almost always has enough range outside of bombers and sniper that spawn far away, but you can use chastise to compensate for that pretty often, and use the puff stagger and slide when approaching to stagger stuff out to 23m

[flat marsh]

I only use flamer on my knife build, so I just run really fast at the enemy

[fading vale]

the puff will stunlock anything that's not a bulwark or crusher

[fleet zealot]

Faaaa Ferret Blast Attack

[prisma sigil]

Ye I run the atrox mkiv taxe

I deal with the elites in melee

Spam light attacks and get constant crits to spam chastise

[flat marsh]

It just feels safer, quicker, and a better use of resources to just use a flamer

I'm also on stealth for my knife

[prisma sigil]

It's a surprisingly balls to the wall build that can solo carry but it gives me fucking carpal tunnel

[flat marsh]

I'm that knife zealot

[prisma sigil]

Yuck

[flat marsh]

macro goes brrrr

I just use stealth 99% of the time for a massive damage hit

[prisma sigil]

Everytime I see a knife zealot I recoil in disgust because I know there's like a 75% chance they're going to suck

[flat marsh]

Occasionally stealth to give a revive

Recently, I've been bored and just running off by myself during a finale to see how long I can last and it's more fun, and for whatever reason I guess my teammates just eventually come to me since I'm at the enemy spawn killing everything

[prisma sigil]

I do that but because I'm greedy for my one million heretic kills

[flat marsh]

I just cosplay a slayer from Warhammer fantasy

I need a honourable death

Doesn't work out

[frank night]

this u

[sharp zodiac]

Mfw

[drifting wolf]

run into a police station half naked wielding dual wood axes

[frank night]

lady has been back in france for less than 48 hours

[sharp zodiac]

And you have been out of your mothers womb for even less

[frank night]

the french ENMITY has begun once again

[flat marsh]

Being inside their mother's womb isn't special tbh

[sharp zodiac]

SHH

SHH

I have the talking stick for now

[frank night]

u cant just hang on to the talking stick and refuse to give it to other ppl

[sharp zodiac]

Yes I can

[olive raven]

the only stick the french be holding has a white flag, aint no speaking stick

[frank night]

i would NEVER resort to the surrender jokes

[olive raven]

dw thats the singular one

if anyone says another its overkill

fr'

[frank night]

competitive shitting

[sharp zodiac]

No more casual work

[frank night]

how is Frans rn

[sharp zodiac]

Carl Frans is doing fine

[frank night]

damn he is fr wow

[flat marsh]

FOR KARL FRANZ AND THE EMPIRE

FOR SIGMAR

[late birch]

I have a chain sword with two lvl 4's on it that I want to earn blessing on, Rev It Up and Bloodthirsty, which is the best one to earn blessing for later?

[olive raven]

blood

[fading vale]

uh, bloodthirsty but the honest answer is neither

[flat marsh]

Both suck

[granite cipher]

Tested my speed zel build, and got lucky with a sniper ventilation purge map. I felt useful

[flat marsh]

I would rather use rev it up for speed shenanigans

[fading vale]

bloodthirsty has more potential to be useful in the future

[flat marsh]

Bloodthirsty is just way too niche

Zealot doesn't have issues getting crits imho

I'd rather do that chainsword movetech with rev it up

[fading vale]

for example new evis bloodthirsty at least has something it can do, chain kill crushers

[wind heath]

I think there is a hidden minion build in the game. Check out the team member Count XD

[fading vale]

and bloodthirsty used to be a timed buff

[flat marsh]

The most disappointed I've ever been was using bloodthirsty on an illsi with the crit blaze fire thing and it only working on one mob

[glass pelican]

what should i change on this?

[ember yew]

trauma to skullcrusher, weak spot to whatever you prefer between Flak or Carapace (some use even unyelding).

[glass pelican]

what benefits the crusher more in terms on builds? i don't really use it that much

[copper hawk]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127724964

by our very own josho

[ember yew]

^

[glass pelican]

thanks

[sharp zodiac]

Man im so hungry I could eat a horse

[frank night]

get some fries and drink

[prisma sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/how-hungry-horse-meme-how-hungry-meme-hungry-gif-3271609735629330991

[sharp zodiac]

No money

[frank night]

when next money

[sharp zodiac]

Tomorrow

I will be stealing

Because stealing on a day like Monday is like being punched in the balls then having your dog vomit on you

[frank night]

so r u just

on starvation day or

or will there be food

[sharp zodiac]

Starvation

Then I'll eat like once today

In like 8 hours

[fading vale]

why not just eat baguettes

[frank night]

I'm trying rly hard to kill you with my mind rn

excellent steve

[hushed knoll]

I LOVE EATING BAGUETTES

just rip that mfer across the middle

Then eat the ends

[hushed knoll]

Holy shit why is he so adorable

[hushed knoll]

Why are you not a dapper cat anymore

[fleet zealot]

that's what im saying

[fading vale]

don't they like, deliver baguettes to your door every day if you are a French citizen

[wraith helm]

What more can i really have really done for this?

[fading vale]

something besides infernus

[frank night]

new year new me

im embracing dystopian coca cola monkey

[wraith helm]

Yeah but on a crit zealot, it does some solid dps

[fading vale]

it doesn't

it's only for monstrosities

[wraith helm]

its a head clicker

[fading vale]

everything else dies before infernus does damage

[wraith helm]

The only other blessing i could have wanted on it was raking fire. Infernus sounded like a good idea

[flat marsh]

Ghost is a good one

Not getting shot is neat

[fading vale]

yeah, raking is solid but really the second blessing is kind of whatever, ghost also decent

[wraith helm]

swift certainty

[fading vale]

swift certainty doesn't do what you probably think it does

[granite cipher]

[wraith helm]

whats the difference between dodging and being immune to ranged

[fading vale]

yeah so swift isn't dodging

[wraith helm]

Counts as dodging while sprinting
Another fatshark moment?

[fading vale]

all it means is that the ability to run perpendicular to ranged fire is extended to when you have 0 stam

[misty raven]

Tool tip moment

[wraith helm]

I still wouldnt really pick ghost. I would want more damage output. Otherwise, im up in the enemies faces

[granite cipher]

I actually started using my bolter again. It's pretty good on speed build with shroud to lose agro and if need to reload/ position

[misty raven]

I use it on my middle tree with the reload speed stacks off melee kills with chastise and BP

[granite cipher]

mmmm yes I should consider that

[wraith helm]

Reminds me, i do need to find a good bolter

[modest quiver]

PSA: something you probably already know and if you like it you've probably changed it already - but for those who haven't...

Bind your dash to shift (you can have the same key bound for multiple actions)
Bind your crouch to C.

Enjoy a more ergonomic experience where you don't accidentally end up jumping instead of dashing and take a crusher hit to the face

[placid lily]

Thanks for the tip Mr Radiomuffin

[modest quiver]

I found sprint sliding a PiTA with having to move my little finger from shift to crouch constantly - frequently fumbled it.

So sprint sliding is a bit easier with the C bound crouch 😄

[tight fog]

i have a button on my mouse bound to ctrl, it rocks

it rocks for everything tbh and not just darktide

[misty raven]

Dodge - space
Jump - alt
Jump isn't used enough to make it a normal key hit

[night roost]

you don't press ctrl with the tip of your finger

[warped dragon]

Bind dash to a mouse button and crouch/slide to shift

Dodge on a mouse button as well of course

[placid lily]

[obtuse solstice]

nah sprint on shift, dodge and crouch on alt

[warped dragon]

Whatever makes it not-painful to execute after a game or two

[flat marsh]

Dodge slides take up two dodges from your dodge counter btw

So it may not be the best idea

[warped dragon]

Miss being able to spam it with force sword

[fading vale]

default controls gang

I jump a lot on hammer so I didn't want to rebind it

[modest quiver]

This I did not know! Thanks

Also, is the dodge counter hidden and only visible with a mod?

[fading vale]

just to clarify not a forward slide, but a dodge slide

[zealous salmon]

holy fuCKIGN shit
it only took like 100 hours but the game gave me thrust on a hammer

thrust 3 ;-;
but at least it's thrust
i was losing my mind

[flat marsh]

I think inspecting a weapon shows it, and I just see it with a mod tbh

[fading vale]

if only we could see the code for item rolling

[modest quiver]

Haha I feel this.. I just picked up Uncanny Strike 3 from upgrading brunt weapons

[zealous salmon]

this was completely absurd

[silk stratus]

Swag

[zealous salmon]

I've never had remotely this much difficulty with any other blessing

[fading vale]

numericui should show it, I have my dodge counter below crosshair

I've never rolled thrust 4 from hadron

after like, 900 hours of upgrading hammers

[obtuse solstice]

I've upgraded dozens of dclaws looking for shred it just won't drop

[modest quiver]

sounds like I need to have a play with mods then.. still using vanilla

[warped dragon]

Hadron gave me thrust 4 on hammer a few days before Christmas

Numeric UI is pretty crucial

[fading vale]

qol mods are very nice

[sharp zodiac]

I got it on my first hammer melk gave

[warped dragon]

Teammate ammo count and dodge counter pretty huge

[fading vale]

IIRC melk sold it to me in February, so only took a few months to get 🙂

[sharp zodiac]

Melk deciding one whether to give out the greatest gift of humanity or the equivalent of a dying cow

[native cargo]

Cows brought the downfall of Tertium

[sharp zodiac]

Cows are responsible for every problem

[native cargo]

Eat beef

Stop heresy

Full tummy

All happy

[sharp zodiac]

Fish better

Beef makes me blow up

[native cargo]

Fish always better but don't trust sea food from the torrent

[sharp zodiac]

Yummy flavors

[wraith helm]

the equivalent of gas station sushi

[native cargo]

This. It kills people slowly

Population control

[sharp zodiac]

I devour gas station sushi like a starving Ethiopian

[native cargo]

You rn

[wraith helm]

Then like a beast of nurgle with 31 stacks of burn. YOu shall suffer

[zinc talon]

hard to go wrong with smoked salmon, it keeps great even raw

[sharp zodiac]

Nuh uh

Built different

I can take it

[native cargo]

Yuh uh

Built dumb

[sharp zodiac]

Ik the rat isn't talking

[zinc talon]

well, 'raw'

[native cargo]

Dummy stupid

[native cargo]

Yeah im typing luna

[sharp zodiac]

But you have no finger

[native cargo]

Use snoot

[sharp zodiac]

You son of a shepard

[sharp zodiac]

What of it

warp rat

rat of the warp

the warp of rat

[native cargo]

Your toilet must be abused by the gas station sushi

[sharp zodiac]

Deserves it

[silk stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-modern-warfare2-stare-meme-2022-gif-27104713

That’s atrocious

But intriguing

[native cargo]

Yesm

It is very much creatura behavior

[sinful widget]

la creatura

[misty raven]

I believe I got food poisoning from airport sushi

[crude lake]

TWBS doesn’t work on ranger knockback, right?

[naive star]

Workable beginning?

[sharp zodiac]

You mean Rager?

[spare dome]

The answer is it does work either way.

[crude lake]

Yea, I meant Ranged* lol. I had always operated under the assumption it did and that the tooltip was wrong. But someone said it didn’t and wasn’t home to go test

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-laughable-seriously-commentator-gif-5357322

[north sedge]

It works on everything

[copper hawk]

Warp schrat

[native cargo]

That is terrifying

[native cargo]

cat

[copper hawk]

Mby

I kill u ?

How bout them Lemonz ?? Huh ?? Isdiot,,;;

[native cargo]

Maybe

I fester your tummy

and make you achy when ded

how about that poopie head

[granite minnow]

this UI makes me feel like i'm in KSP 2

[modest quiver]

Oh damn, does this mean that because I feel the need to walk like a robot while pulling the trigger on my drill I might be part... "tinny"?

[hushed knoll]

Hi dough

[opaque island]

From the looks of that video the 3rd person mod looks pretty good, does it work well?

[zinc talon]

I swear by it

but caveat emptor

the reticle is not just a flat 2d target on your screen ui

it actually moves to the pixel you're aiming at back and forth depending on how far away that is

so the crosshair, moves back and forth in front of you as you fight, you just never noticed because it was doing that in the dead center of the screen

so you couldn't tell

that means you'll have to relearn your aim

[opaque island]

Can't be too hard right?

[north sedge]

Bay leaf

[indigo oak]

zealot build?

[opaque island]

All wound curios martyrdom with chastise the wicked,the only way to play zealot for me

[copper hawk]

Baylesf

Sisisiisjssnamzm

[blazing fossil]

The thought of having food poisoning when traveling via air is giving me anxiety lol

[opaque island]

What is it about pans that you find so sexual? :^)

[misty raven]

It didn't hit until later. I was on a job trip in Chicago and I was struggling in my hotel

[minor sage]

Should've just got McDonald's lol

[blazing fossil]

Oh that beats on the actual plane lol

[misty raven]

I should've

[sharp zodiac]

Nuh uh, Wendy's

[north sedge]

A nice oak, maybe cherry with an elegant lacquer finish

[blazing fossil]

I got a bug when I was in Japan many years ago. I ate and drank well, worth.

[fading vale]

I have a soft spot for mcdoubles, never been a huge big mac fan

[indigo oak]

ya i was asking about the talent

[onyx solar]

How big is the damage difference between 14 stacks of bleeding and 16? i.e. rank 3 bloodletter vs rank 4

[sharp zodiac]

I prefered the 1/4 freedom unit burger

When I was in Florida 4 years ago

[north sedge]

There is a bleed table in the pins

Prepare to find out how middling it is

[onyx solar]

ty

[minor sage]

Nuh uh

[opaque island]

Fun fact a fast food rest released a 1/3 pound burger but everyone complained cause they thought it was smaller, so they got rid of it and kept the 1/4 pounder

[minor sage]

My lacerate knife is superior

[onyx solar]

now I dont have to hunt for Bloodletter rank 4

[minor sage]

Cuz americans cant do math

[sharp zodiac]

Because they didn't understand 1/3 was bigger

[opaque island]

Yes

[oak cipher]

Fun fact, McD Big Tasty is 1/3

[blazing fossil]

I’ve heard this too, people are dumb. I had someone argue with me at my work that 1/4” is larger than 5/16”

[opaque island]

Hey I don't appreciate blanket statements I'm pretty good at math!

[fading vale]

if you want build advice you are gonna need to at least figure out what you want to try and run or ask more specifically

[onyx solar]

Well I mean, fractions are hard if you've never been taught them properly, or at all, really. Yeah people can be stupid but blame our shitty education system

[blazing fossil]

I want to kill shit and not die.

[north sedge]

I do not care for McDonald's really, breakfast is alright but otherwise I only go if desperate or nostalgia kicks in

[indigo oak]

i wanna play with zealot meele build like meta build with meta talent

[opaque island]

Yea...yea

[indigo oak]

something i can start with

i'm lvl 16

[sharp zodiac]

Any weapon can work at 16

[onyx solar]

I'm a math tutor, and people get difficult concepts really easily if you explain it to them in a way that lets their brain latch onto it

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/metaverse-zuckerberg-zuck-mark-zuckerberg-meta-gif-23714532

[fading vale]

as far as level 16 goes, get second wind in top right and then go for fury of the faithful ability

[oak cipher]

Knifu is laifu. Hammer is da way

[fading vale]

easiest weapon for leveling is rashad/antax

[tawny tangle]

The best way to do that is learning how to do well in melee range. When and how to dodge and how long it takes for dodges to recharge.

[hushed knoll]

You can’t just say gay leaf

Bay

[oak cipher]

Just get a weapon you like and get good at it.

[north sedge]

Gay leaf

[blazing fossil]

I was being facetious 🤣

[north sedge]

For a gay madonna

[opaque island]

I used to be able to do algebra equations in my head like solving for x and y shit, but I've lost that skill over time

[fading vale]

AHABPSW

yeah I used to be pretty good at math and oh guess what never used that shit once without google as a programmer

[lavish flame]

No one does arithmetic by hand now

[onyx solar]

same, i never really use differential equations much as a bakery cashier

[blazing fossil]

I find examples are the best method of teaching

[fading vale]

its soooo rare that someone hasn't already solved a problem for you

[hushed knoll]

You’re jealous

[lavish flame]

Ive had to use a shit ton of calculus thou :c

[fading vale]

so just use other people's work

[opaque island]

I'm not college educated, so I never took calc classes

I dont know shit about calc

[lavish flame]

Oh and matrices

[fading vale]

I just read papers and used things that were already made for the most part, then trial and error

[lavish flame]

But matrices are nice

[lavish flame]

Must be nice xD

[fading vale]

I mean, there's so much already available for python and C++ it's hard to not find an answer you can adapt, and often papers have like Matlab etc too

[lavish flame]

Must. Be. Nice.

:P

[fading vale]

as long as you can like, somewhat grasp it it's fine

[lone pecan]

Love the guide, can someone tell me if crusher + chorus is not as good, because they fill similar roles, i.e. protecting the team and that's why the examples are for chastise to lean more into making the crusher more effective?

[blazing fossil]

Yes it’s fine. Just don’t expect to get those satisfying 1 shots

[fading vale]

you could run crusher with chorus, folks tend to gravitate to chastise cause it's the most zealoty ability and provides great movement, as well as the ranged armor downgrade

[north sedge]

Chorus is purely defense, crusher kills things

You can use them together

Josho also just doesn't play chorus which I imagine why he doesn't talk about it

[lavish flame]

Chorus is great. People just dont run it cos it stops u killing shit xD

[lone pecan]

Chorus is indeed great and I like using it for higher difficulty missions, but chastise is just more fun yeah

Just checking if running both would be "redundant" for lack of a better word

[north sedge]

Not really? They just do different things

[misty raven]

Yea. Chorus pauses the killing. I don't want to pause the killing

[north sedge]

Just depends on how you wanna play

[lone pecan]

Sometimes it even pauses the killing of your teammates

[spare dome]

Chorus also costs two points by default to continue down the tree.

[lone pecan]

Another question, what exactly does impact strength do? Increases the stagger values of attacks?

[oak ermine]

I don’t know a very precise answer, but yes, it’s stagger strength and also duration IIRC

[spare dome]

Just the value.

It's the blue number on the weapon table.

[lone pecan]

Okay, is it always good to get it from talents or would it be overkill on something like the crusher that already has really high stagger?

[north sedge]

Overkill

[golden anchor]

Crusher wants an impact blessing (only one worth taking anyways) after skullcrusher

[north sedge]

What

[golden anchor]

blessing, I meant

[north sedge]

Hammerblow is more than enough

[golden anchor]

Thats an impact blessing lol

don't need anything else from talent points though

[north sedge]

Yes which is what he's asking about

[golden anchor]

You do get it for free if you're going down for BP for crit build though

Punishment, at least

[lone pecan]

Thank you very much makes a build easier as I can skip punishment when going for momentum at least, feels more right than crit crusher for some reason, I will leave that for the evis

[golden anchor]

Crusher is just good baseline so you can run it with anything and it'll be fine

[lone pecan]

It's also good at bullying all the ragers and maulers which bullied me when I started the game as psyker

[lucid hamlet]

So Im impatient and really need to know the answer to this Q: does Assassin weapon property effect crit chance?

[olive raven]

Que?

[lucid hamlet]

Have seen in several videos that an hidden property of the Assassin weapon property is that it passively doubles crit chance.

This one

[dense field]

It's not a weapon property, it's an attack type

🤓

[lucid hamlet]

Right, there's the assassin attack type

[muted sonnet]

I mean a fair few Assassin weapons have a critical bonus stat category

[lucid hamlet]

and then there's the weapon property

[oak ermine]

Well, it’s something that can indicate that a weapon has altered crit rate

Which weapon does this “assassin” weapon type appear on?

[muted sonnet]

I don't really think the weapon properties inherently do anything besides serve as a guideline for a weapon's behavior roughly

[lucid hamlet]

Combat Blade

[oak ermine]

The only melee weapon with altered melee crit in-game is Combat blades IIRC

The rest is modified by, well, weapon modifiers, like Critical Bonus

[lucid hamlet]

Im trying to decide if I want 10% Elite Damage or 5% crit chance

[oak ermine]

Or are plainly hidden, like -2% CR on (Infantry*) Autoguns and stubbers

[lucid hamlet]

So I crit every ~4 hits instead of every ~5

[left iron]

Elites, every time, is higher value than 5% crit

[oak ermine]

Or lasguns having higher CR, and laspistols as well. There’s a couple more examples, but I don’t remember them off the top of my head. Combine00 had created a guide on these things on Steam

[oak ermine]

Combat blade has a hidden CR modifier of 15% additive IIRC

[lucid hamlet]

laspistols
That answers a question for me. Was always wondering why every 3-4th shot seemed to crit on my heavy las

[lucid hamlet]

So I could have a 35-40% crit rate just having the thing out

[oak ermine]

On some classes - basically yes

[lucid hamlet]

Also slight dumb because I'm asking about my vet knife, since last time I asked no one knew in the vet channel, lol

[oak ermine]

I don’t blame Vet channel or any other channel for that matter

The fact that information such as this is hidden from the players is baffling to me

Karking “weapon types” made up by FS

[dark wasp]

Anybody figure out how to make the Thunderhammer not horrible?

[oak ermine]

#1158835247685836853 had had a couple contributors for that

Seek posts by Mal or Yanna IIRC

[left iron]

Lazorr only plays thammer

[oak ermine]

Also a good proposition, I suppose

[true mantle]

The true god of thunder hammer

Tuned in just to say that

[north sedge]

Bay leaf

[left iron]

What you need on the thammer is thrust + slaughterer/headtaker, unyielding + flak/elites. Thammer has a relatively high skill floor compared to most weapons, and you benefit a lot from learning how to manipulate the swing hitbox (where the swing starts, for example)

[fading vale]

how to make hammer not bad: step 1 good stats perks and blessings - step 2 learn how to use a weapon that actually takes practice to use

if you are on controller I would just give up hope for hammer though

[raven swan]

Can someone copy me Rashad Axe build that I can copy like a mindless drone?

[north sedge]

Press left shoulder to abandon hope all ye who hammer

[oak ermine]

I’m curious - what makes it so unbearable?

[fading vale]

there's a lot of hitbox manipulation

and fast movements

[oak ermine]

I.e., a lot of uncomfortable hands movements on the thing?

I suppose that’s fair

[north sedge]

Jumping and aiming and such

I imagine ironhelm is fine there

[oak ermine]

The weapon is extremely janky with how you want certain hits to stick

[fading vale]

I'm sure you could figure it out eventually but like, it would be pretty hard. And yeah jumping and doing hitbox stuff at the same time and all that

ironhelm could probably get away with it yeah

[oak ermine]

Or not hit something undesirable along the way

[fading vale]

you also want to drag basically every heavy

TLDR if you are just gonna point in a general direction and swing don't ever expect to do that with crucis

[zinc talon]

you might try third person camera

[oak ermine]

No, thank you

I saw some of your videos

The view is genuinely nauseating

My love for -Tide games was born with first person camera in mind

[fading vale]

like JSATs first hammer video, dude couldn't hit a damn thing ever lol

[left iron]

Im glad these days are far behind us now

[fading vale]

hit the same bulwark shield like 5 times

[left iron]

I havent had a single one recently

[fleet zealot]

dog parried your hammer with that spin

skill issue /s

[left iron]

Absorbed the impact, he did

[hallow hatch]

how do i make this better

[nimble fiber]

cold outside, it is

[oak ermine]

Find another one

[fleet zealot]

god

imagine like, slaaneshi elite swordsmen

that just parry you

[oak ermine]

If you really want to keep it, though - change at least one blessing to Dumdum, and Groaner perk to Flak

[hallow hatch]

is it dat bad

[left iron]

Its only -15C now, almost at a comfortable t-shirt weather

[oak ermine]

Well, what do you think of it?

[nimble fiber]

literally a yeti

[hallow hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-side-eye-confused-gif-8776030

[oak ermine]

Of how the blessings interact with the rapid rate of fire, for instance?

[hallow hatch]

can anyone else help me instead of trying to be baby yoda and ask riddles

[oak ermine]

I already helped you

[buoyant sleet]

"helped you already, I have" :p

[hallow hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-sure-nodding-ross-geller-friends-gif-15956988

[dark wasp]

I'm sorry, the Omnissiah hates you. Not a single good perk, or blessing. It's Columnus though, so if you put DumDum and Firefrenzy on it, it will still be amazing.

[hallow hatch]

ok thank you

[oak ermine]

There.

[serene briar]

It's a strong weapon, but not as strong as faith in our glorious Emperor

[hallow hatch]

ill try to get a better weapon, thought it was viable.

glooks

not trying to be baby yoda and be all philisophical and shit

😭

[oak ermine]

What do you want from me, pilgrim, I gave you an answer before the riddle

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-kanye-west-kanyevibe-gif-23816851

[safe tulip]

True

[lone pecan]

I guess Cara is a good-ish perk, to kill crusher slightly faster with onslaught

[zealous seal]

Carapace on the Columnus isn't a bad perk necessarily. Flak and Maniac are ideal for everything else but Carapace will help you melt Crushers even faster with Fury of the Faithful. You would've melted them super quick anyway but with 25% Carapace you will probably kill Crushers in 0.5 seconds or something silly like that. I would try for a better one though.

[hallow hatch]

ok

[north sedge]

answer me these riddles three

[lone pecan]

Oh right, this is the Zealot channel, there is no onslaught here

[hallow hatch]

ill try to get two other blessings

[sharp zodiac]

Riddle me this

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-toss-dc-comics-batman-forever-jim-carrey-gif-15323838

[hallow hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-riddler-jim-carey-riddle-me-this-villain-gif-16662156

[sharp zodiac]

Why can't my parents make up

That is my riddle

[frank night]

you didnt roll high enough on charisma

karmic dice karen

[sharp zodiac]

FUCK YOU

[left iron]

Checks out

Lol get rekt

Roll better

[sharp zodiac]

I will personally see to your demise through cornfields

[buoyant sleet]

holy hand grenade, begin the count to 5, no more, no less

[frank night]

today i will buy a bottle of coke

[sharp zodiac]

What flavor

[frank night]

and emulate the monkey in my pfp

coke flavour

[sharp zodiac]

Mmm

[mossy scarab]

What a coincidence. I'm going to buy some coke today as well.

[frozen spade]

Are cleave blessings pointless on Heavy Swords? has anyone noticed any difference?

[north sedge]

pointless

[zinc talon]

brutal momentum is so popular because it deals full damage without falloff when it triggers

[north sedge]

you want deathblow/headtaker or rampage/headtaker

[zinc talon]

er that one

diff name same game

[raven swan]

Can someone reccomend ranged weapon for Rashad weapon?

[north sedge]

whichever you prefer

[raven swan]

Shotgun, maybe

[north sedge]

maybe shotgun

[ancient zinc]

hey since charge makes every enemy drop 1 armor type for 4 seconds so carapace becomes flak etc.. what happens to unyielding?

what does unyielding count as for 4 seconds?

[ember yew]

unyelding is not an armor, but enemy type, the same way nothing happens to (naked) maniacs aka mutants and ragers

[muted vale]

is it possible to have shade dmg from vt2 as zealot with shroudfield and some weapon? .)

[ember yew]

yes

Thunder Hammer Crucis MK2, Thrust + Headtaker(or Slaughterer) blessing, Unyelding + whatever (flak/maniac) perks

[muted vale]

oke, ty, so no dagger? hammer instead xDD the biggest one .)

[ember yew]

hammer only

it kills the boss with one hit (either hit the boss in the back or weakspot (head/etc)

[muted vale]

nice .) but probably bad way for leveling, right?

i mean going that melee way from start

[ember yew]

yes, if you are leveling, check out evis mk15, newbie friendly and powerful

[gray ice]

Check out all the weapons, most stuff is viable, so it's about finding what you like

[ember yew]

if you want to test weapons, you can buy grey weapons at vendor and just check how they works

[gray ice]

columnus IAG go brrrrrr

[ancient zinc]

good to know! thanks!

[gray ice]

this poor guy hit terminal velocity immediatly

ayyy Asra I see you lurkin

[south folio]

given the terminology that the game uses, i'd consider it an armour type

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/cart-gas-weed-high-cough-gif-20160009

[south folio]

internally, damage modifiers to unarmored/infested/flak/etc. are referred to as "adm" or "armour damage modifiers"

[ripe quest]

You cannot say that Unyielding is an enemy type when Reapers and Bulwarks are partial Unyielding enemies

Each body part has an armor type and when you hit that body part it matches that type with the weapon attack's adms

[ripe quest]

Also just for clarification, the armor downgrade only affects Carapace and Flak. Cara goes to Flak and Flak to Unarmored, and to further clarify if you have a +Cara perk and use the charge the perk will still apply to Carapace armor.

[hearty lily]

I only have one more modification left. Should I:

A. Get +25% Unyielding damage (for bosses)
or
B. Swap out Overpressure (I heard it's bugged?) for Blaze Away

[fading vale]

fan to blaze and stam to elites probably unless you really wanna use it on bosses a lot

[zinc talon]

Transcend to crusher enjoyment

I don't recommend blaze away myself because it encourages you to waste fuel unnecessarily

[fading vale]

eh, it's the only damage increase and good for elite packs and chastising through rooms

[north sedge]

i recommend blaze away because it's for killing elite packs

[zinc talon]

it's still popular among the playerbase but I dislike how it incentivizes you to use the weapon

[fading vale]

and great for crushers

[ancient zinc]

does +flak work against carapace too for 4 seconds?

[fading vale]

carapace is treated as carapace not both

[zinc talon]

inspiring barrage is a bigly yuge benefit because it looks and feels like your toughness regen is instant and constant

[fading vale]

it just uses the flak ADMs during the armor downgrade

but still treated as carapace

[hearty lily]

interesting. I figured Fan the Flames was useful for its stagger

[zinc talon]

when you use the charge ultimate? yeah, carapace to flak

[north sedge]

it's meh

[zinc talon]

you can lazurbeem 2 or maybe even 3 crushers in that timespan if your aim is spot on

[fading vale]

fan only does something on the puff, and the puff already staggers everything except crushers

[zinc talon]

because of the ridiculous increase

[north sedge]

you can kill a whole pack

[hearty lily]

oh snap. it doesn't affect the secondary fire?

i didn't know that

[fading vale]

nope

[hearty lily]

well then

[zinc talon]

staggering and suppressing the room you're clearing is a bigger benefit to the team than any damage increase you could do with different setups

everything except maulers and crushers will stagger on the second puff

and it'll stop ranged enemies from shooting on the first hit

and cower/suppress them on the second on

you can fire over and around cover and it'll still apply

[hearty lily]

nice

[zinc talon]

I've been puttin some time in the seat specifically for usin the flamer offensively and not just to waft hallways during a horde

[fading vale]

yes nobody suggests using the flamer by sitting back

[zinc talon]

the rest of your team suddenly has all the free time in the world to work on the room you just cowered and set on fire

it's great for deciding your own pacing of the fights for yourself and not by what just spawned or ran into the room you're in

[zinc talon]

oh for sure I'm just waxing philosophical cuz that's been my primary focus the last couple jobs today/last night

I wanted to see just how quickly it cowers or staggers and how much time and damage that buys for the team

the answer I'm finding the last job or two is, everyone takes half the damage they would if I wasn't cower/suppressing the mission

[north sedge]

just kill the things

it's not complicated

flamer is incredibly dumb weapon

[minor sage]

tbh I wouldn't run flamer unless you're killing elite packs with chastise

just kill hordes and shooters with melee

[fading vale]

chastise is pretty great for yeeting across the room with flamer too

[zinc talon]

welp, I'm a bible thump/corruption eater

[minor sage]

bible spam builds I've found work best with crit melee + revolver

[zinc talon]

yep

[minor sage]

I use dclaw

[zinc talon]

I use a crusher or new eviscerator

[minor sage]

but for flamer I think the evis15 crit build works very well

[zinc talon]

can shave ten full seconds off the timer in a high target swing

[hearty lily]

i guess here's my other question: Are any damage perks good for Flamer since the numbers are small tick damage?

[minor sage]

yes

[zinc talon]

personally I don't think so

[minor sage]

you can use flak/elites

[zinc talon]

oh perks, sure

[hearty lily]

ah

[zinc talon]

I thought blessings

flak and unarmored is what I run ideally

[north sedge]

flak elites

unyielding works too

[zinc talon]

maniacs are typically too quick for you to get any time burning em

[rough galleon]

Chastise letting me move without having to do shit flamer sprint speed or shit flamer draw and simultaneously making it evaporate any armoured units is pretty nice

[north sedge]

unarmoured in a big fat who cares

[zinc talon]

and the rager's stagger is just his stand still convulsions he does when shocked or chainsaw'd

and it's over right when the attack is

[minor sage]

you can also do a few animation cancels with throwing knife

on flamer

the only reason to do this is tree pathing

wouldn't recommend grabbing knives if you have access to grenades tho

[ember yew]

Still a fact that Chastice does not boost a damage against Unyelding/Maniac, so w/e

[zinc talon]

I will go to my grave with stun grenades still in my loadout

[ember yew]

[minor sage]

but coming out of the right only gives you about 4 extra points to work with

which is significant

[zinc talon]

no doubt

I'm just saying all this adjacent minmaxing to get the most out of the flamer is largely unnecessary

it's technique that makes the flamer deadly

[rough galleon]

Just shoot the fucker, she'll be right

[north sedge]

step 1 shoot

step 2 profit

it's one of the easiest fucking weapons

[zinc talon]

just shooting the fucker gets you maybe 3/4ths of the damage and burn stacks you could be laying using the weapon as it wants to be used, though

I have some short vids I shared explaining some of the tricks the flamer has

oop this one too, firing the weapon faster than it can drain fuel from your canister

[minor sage]

showstopper gaming

[zinc talon]

it's a dependable chuckle every time

I just don't have my t4 sticker book filled up for flamers yet

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[ornate bone]

Imagine zealot but

VOC instead of chorus

vroom vroom my full toughness regen with 30s cooldown

vroom vroom crit cdr with 12 cleave

speaking of

kinda wacky vet gets the longer stealth cooldown when they can't crit the bloody thing away

it's totally worth it, mind

still wacky

[frank night]

somehow

sterling returned

[hearty lily]

critical hit damage is still as bad of a perk as it was in Vermintide, right?

[frank night]

it is idd dogass

[ornate bone]

mittins means "yes"

[hearty lily]

o

[ornate bone]

I speak mittinese

[median steeple]

Oob'd

[hearty lily]

❓

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-run-hide-cute-gif-15440141

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-gif-5321725

[lament iron]

can i do anything good with this shotgun

[polar plover]

will a bot dying count as a player death for weekly??

[olive raven]

hit & run and infested for things to change pre sure

[lament iron]

yeah obvs ditching hit and run

not sure what to replace with those

[median steeple]

Hit n run to no respite and ingested to flak

[gray ice]

ingested

new enemy type

[dense field]

I think we're sleeping on tactical axes

[gray ice]

i think i'll keep sleeping

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-2822468507363798988

[olive raven]

r

[olive raven]

eal

[dense field]

I didn't know they can stagger ragers out of their combos

[gray ice]

After trying tac axe for a handful of games, in its current state it's marginally better than knife

[olive raven]

Run crusher, is better ezpz

[gray ice]

I don't need another reason for wrist issues

[dense field]

Now I know and I've lost my sleep

[gray ice]

I mean if you wanna see something funny, pretty sure tac axe special will stop a mutie charge

[dense field]

So will a shovel special

[gray ice]

that doesn't make it any better, but it's fun to do

[gray ice]

wyd

[dense field]

Crusher is boring

Not something I'm looking forward to be playing with

[ornate bone]

Words like these get men murdered in less civilized lands

[gray ice]

crusher is like one of 2 weapons where you're actually incentivized to use something other than light spam

People be different though, can't really rag on you for feeling like it's boring lol

[dense field]

It doesn't feel good to use. It's weird.

[hearty lily]

does Dodging apply to bullets or just melee attacks

for weapon perks

[gray ice]

hmm not sure for perks, I know talents can proc off ranged

or like blessings

not perks

[hearty lily]

oops. i meant talents. For example, the talent that gives you less Recoil/Spread for every successful dodge for 3 seconds

[gray ice]

then yes that procs off ranged as well

[hearty lily]

specically

ah ok. thx!

[gray ice]

npnp

DoD is one of my favorite talents of any class honestly

amazing what it does for a lot of weapons use cases

[sharp zodiac]

I like crusher a lot but it'll never beat the eviscerator for me

[gray ice]

I can respect that evi is one of my favs

don't like mk15 as much as the old one tho

[sharp zodiac]

Just something about the chain weapon clicks for me

I think it's the rev attacks and fluidness

[north sedge]

Only chain weapon I particularly enjoy is chaxe now

Otherwise I'm bouncing between crusher and hammer

[sharp zodiac]

Everytime I try going back to hammer it hurts me somewhat

[quartz tartan]

managed to pull off a silent shot in darktide xd

[olive raven]

ogryn times

[raven swan]

I need to rebind key for knives

[olive raven]

M4

goated for grenades

[raven swan]

I build decent Axe build with knives, but I feel nake without grenades for some reason

[olive raven]

M1 = Attack
M2 = Block
M3 = Ping
M4 = Grenade
M5 = Special

ezpz

best keybinds

[raven swan]

All the same on my end excep Granade

I have to move it to M4

[raven swan]

Cute

[gray ice]

d i s g u s t a n

special is F

[olive raven]

special as in special attack smh

it works on my mouse cause i can just

roll my thumb to hit it

instead of losing a movement key

[gray ice]

I don't remember what my special attack is honestly

think 7 or 8

[median steeple]

Bro what

[north sedge]

What

[gray ice]

wait no 7 is grenade, m4 is special attack

that sounds right

[median steeple]

7 IS GRENADE???

Bro to the asylum with you

[spare dome]

throttle up is my special

[gray ice]

I have macro so it's just a side mouse button

[north sedge]

My special attack key is { don't be ridiculous

[olive raven]

disgusting vin

only your big ass hands could do that

[gray ice]

Side mouse buttons

[olive raven]

thats

literally what i have

[gray ice]

smells like skissue

[olive raven]

lmao

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-facepalm-talk-to-the-gif-10901662

[olive raven]

my special & grenade are side buttons

[fleet zealot]

this is me (not really)

[gray ice]

I mean I can definitely reach and hit the 7 key just fine

I play wow and do that, I just don't need to here

[north sedge]

My grenade key is print screen

[spare dome]

dodge is on alt f4

[gray ice]

noob move make it windows key

[north sedge]

That's too inconvenient

Hard to reach

[spare dome]

well ive never taken a hit

[gray ice]

I don't even turn on my monitor to play anymore

[blazing fossil]

hello heretics

think we will get a 2024 roadmap from FS?

[fleet zealot]

no lmao

fatshark sucks at roadmaps

[blazing fossil]

well i guess its better to not release one, than release one that never happens etc

[ripe quest]

It handles crowds better for sure, cannot vouch for its single target though

[steel cape]

dmg vs carapace armour or elite meele dmg better on mk 3 combat blade?

or rather which one should i swap out for crit

[ripe quest]

You don't want crit damage for sure, look at the BP calc and see if either hit any BPs for you.

[steel cape]

oh that exists for darktide? neat

i didnt keep up until now, mostly a casual damnation player 😄

[ripe quest]

https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

[sharp zodiac]

Man that was a good nap

[hearty lily]

another silly newbie question. If I Earn Blessing "Hammerblow IV" on my Ironhelm, will I also gain access to that blessing on my Crusher hammer?

or do weapons not share Blessings that way

[sharp zodiac]

Crucis yes

Ironhelm and crucis share blessings

[hearty lily]

OOOO

nice. was worried it wouldn't cross transfer

[steel cape]

is there a tool to copy your char into the tool or do i have to do it by hand?

like some mod or sth

[surreal solstice]

Fellas, what's the current stance on tacticool axes? Good on zealot? Never really tried them.

[light holly]

TO BE FAIR they said they wanted to release a new class every quarter
And they technically did

12 keystones, 12 "classes"

Which is wild, part of me is thinking they already had it cooking but had to release in an unfinished state with the crappy talents we got

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-warhammer-40k-hop-on-darktide-hop-on-warhammer-darktide-gif-14407641833919176418

[west schooner]

im gonna use this for future games

[gray ice]

bad

hope for future changes

[median steeple]

I'm losing my fucking mind

Why does infested keep autocorrecting to Ingested

[azure mortar]

because of your inflation fetish ?

[modest quiver]

share your stealthfield dagger zealot builds?

[ornate bone]

STARFIELD?

[twilit otter]

🤮

[median steeple]

Consider barreling yourself

[modest quiver]

stealthfield lol the brainrot almost got me

shroudfield

[modest quiver]

finally got uncanny

[ripe quest]

You just put it in by hand.

[vague depot]

If I’m looking for a chainaxe to get as many Crits as possible for relic spam should I go for mk iv or mk xii

[zinc talon]

I would say the new one

[vague depot]

New one is the bigger number right

[zinc talon]

yes, over ten

the 4 is the OG

[vague depot]

Thanks

[twilit otter]

toughness or hp curios?

[vague depot]

Was bloodletter the blood blessing that was good or the one that sucked ass

[modest quiver]

Anything that might need changing on this skill tree for shroudfield dagger zealot?

[zinc talon]

bloodthirsty is guaranteed crit on rev attack kill

[modest quiver]

(anything important missing)

[zinc talon]

bloodletter is bleed stacks on special attack

I think bloodthirsty can pair really nicely with the chainaxe

[vague depot]

Maybe drop swift certainty for invigorating?

Idk

[zinc talon]

to pocket chamber a guaranteed crit to nuke a heavy with

[vague depot]

Thanks

[north sedge]

Or just have thrust

Bt not worth

On chaxe

[modest quiver]

is swift certainty not as good as its tool tip implies?

[vague depot]

Iirc fartshark wording

Read the pins

I was told I could just spam slides when low on stamina to dodge bullets anyways

[modest quiver]

I was more thinking about proccing precog

hmm thinking about it if precog is for finesse damage - is it better to go blazing piety?

[north sedge]

Sc has nothing to do with dodges

Finesse is weakspot as well

[vague depot]

If I want to kill something fat as a knife zealot I just chain heavy attacks on their back right

[north sedge]

SC just makes it so when you're dodging gunfire by running perpendicular you keep dodging when you run out of stamina, normal you'd start getting shot

[vague depot]

Or is it special m1 spam

[gray ice]

spam tiny pawnch

it won't kill anything but it's fun

[ripe quest]

The special attack just chains into the heavy stab on the knife. For single target just doing heavies or PAs is ideal.

[vague depot]

ok

[visual stream]

For April Fools they should make knife heavy sprinting 100% faster

[ripe quest]

If you can stagger something with the punch it can be a fun opener or attack cancel

[native cargo]

bleed kniofe

[ripe quest]

Chaxe isn't a good finesse weapon, a rev heavy on the XII gets more damage out of a singular stack of Thrust than having it be a crit.

It's fun on Mk XV Evis because there isn't anything definitively better for a 2nd blessing and the blessings are overall a bit tame, Chaxe has powerhouse blessings so it's not the same case.

[naive star]

Been looking out for perfect combat knife for my zealot for 3 weeks now, and now it dropped on my Psyker instead, how much do the talents affect, is Uncanny+Precog still best for Psyker too?

[ripe quest]

Uncanny + Precog leads to the best single target damage still yeah. idk Psyker talents though, not super sure what will pair best with it.

[north sedge]

I mean, ds4 is right there

[ripe quest]

This is also true

[north sedge]

Uncanny precog would work

[delicate shadow]

likely still uncanny/precog yeah

[north sedge]

They get alot of crit finesse bonuses, or can anyway

[ripe quest]

Knife vs Long Knife that's better

Truly incredible

[native cargo]

My knife is larger than yours

A real knife

[north sedge]

But long knife can't roll flesh tearer lacerate....

[native cargo]

Ogryn bleed builds when

[naive star]

On my zealot's shop too, too bad not Mk3

[ripe quest]

The latest argument for bleed on knife is for crit startup with Scourge so that doesn't need to happen on Psyker

[north sedge]

Ogryn is bleed build 😔

[light holly]

That's just heavy hitter with bleed talents

[ripe quest]

Ogryn bleed is fun because you have shit like Shield with absurd cleave values and you don't need to run a blessing for it

Hmm yes I'll take 13 and infinite cleave heavies and bleed

[visual stream]

Anyone else ever think about how uninteractive BoN is other than hitting the pimple

Its only threatening attack corrupts 3/4ths of your health, and everything else it does is usually a skissue to be majorly affected by, but the only threatening attack is relatively unreactable

Unless there's some visible wind-up before the arm grab that I haven't noticed

[north sedge]

It's just area denial and occasionally it might steal someone

But most of the bosses are whatever

[gray ice]

a bonbon at a bad time can cause some issues, but that's the extent of most of em

[north sedge]

I miss prenerf chaos spawn

[gray ice]

none of the bosses are particularly bad when alone, it's about when they come

[visual stream]

The thing is that the BoN is like definitely the most dangerous one to have at a bad time, and it's not even for a fun or interactive reason 💀

[light holly]

Frankly bon is scary if you get mixed hordes and specs sliding in too

Lord forbid someone gets eaten

[visual stream]

Yes

[light holly]

Pogryn honestly sucks

It needs a grab

[gray ice]

silent trapper through BON

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522

plogryn throw people around enough that a grab isn't really necessary

[visual stream]

Plague ogryn is a fun boss for me because I usually use melee weapons with high single target and I enjoy the combos it does

[light holly]

the chaos spawn when you miss 1 dodge and get eaten

[gray ice]

most of the time if you die to plogryn its cause it ledged you

[visual stream]

I think plague ogryn is already a fun boss, especially to mix into an already dangerous situation

[gray ice]

spawn looking at you like

or when you dodge and get grabbed anyway

[visual stream]

The other day one threw me off of a ledge, where gunners proceeded to beam me and make me fall off

[polar nexus]

nice

[light holly]

[visual stream]

Hanging on a ledge ain't a joke, thankfully fire doesn't affect ledged people

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-gif-7732862

[gray ice]

so you were cosplaying this guy #zealot-class message

only difference is he got west side stomped instead of shot

[visual stream]

Exactly 😭

[ripe quest]

no shot I just saw a functioning fnaf fangame in Geometry Dash

https://youtu.be/6EOpGwAVglo?si=0zppeTwzJ6mOSNV5

[raven swan]

Blessings and Perks on Kantareal?