zealot-class

[solar gorge]

I have 10 million ordos

[ornate bone]

In an effort to get max rolls on all stats

[lean lark]

yeah i do that too

[ornate bone]

In that lens 10 million is nothing

[fading vale]

plasteel isn't even remotely an issue, I rarely get good enough rolls to upgrade over what I already have

[solar gorge]

I don't even know what to do with them

[lean lark]

oh its an rng issue

i see

my condolences

[ornate bone]

Nothing unless you wanna buy over and over

[solar gorge]

FS need to add an ordo sink NOW

[fading vale]

Hi stan

[ornate bone]

Spend like 5 hours rerolling armory pieces

🤢

Gameplay slot machine

[solar gorge]

The ordo inflation is getting worse

[fading vale]

and then when I get god rolls

hadron be like, hmmmmm what about 2 impact blessings and 2 dead perks

[north sedge]

Max lax laz

[fading vale]

I'VE STILL NEVER ROLLED THRUST 4

like how is that even possible

[timber ether]

lol

[solar gorge]

how

just take garbage thammers and upgrad them

bwa

[copper hawk]

@tepid sorrel u lurk .;

[fading vale]

melk has sold it to me 3 times, otherwise I've never naturally rolled it

[copper hawk]

[solar gorge]

used melk 5 times in 800 hours

just like the shop forgot the name

[twilit otter]

what is better for evis? savage sweep or wrath

[solar gorge]

wrath

but you can get away with swepp it's good too

[fading vale]

savage sweep is better

[solar gorge]

nah

[fading vale]

cause wrath drops if you miss

[olive raven]

This is a fucking god roll lmao

[solar gorge]

wrath condition to build up is easier

[blazing fossil]

t3 blessings

[olive raven]

uh...

no?

[solar gorge]

just hit

easier than gettting 3 ennemies

[olive raven]

i mean ig?

SS is overall better

[twilit otter]

look at this beast i just got from emperor

[fading vale]

savage is instantly up and hard to drop

[solar gorge]

wrath work in every situation so no, wrath is better imo

[steep igloo]

Big E sucks my nuts with shit like this

[twilit otter]

2 to 1 for savage sweep... got it

[hushed knoll]

I feel like you could definitely be named Max

Your voice sounds like a Max

[solar gorge]

oh it's on an heavy sword

[twilit otter]

no its for evis

[solar gorge]

ok

[fading vale]

don't take cleave on new evis

[twilit otter]

just made this morning

[solar gorge]

yeah it's good

[twilit otter]

I have wrath 2 and savage sweep 2

[solar gorge]

you want blessing at 3 minimum

[olive raven]

tbh, crit it

shred

[twilit otter]

i dont have shred

[fading vale]

most people will recommend savage, lambda is the first I've seen to prefer wrath

[twilit otter]

i literally only have savage sweep 2 and wrath 2

those are the only blessings I have saved

[solar gorge]

keep it like that then

not worth downgrading to a lvl2 blessing

[olive raven]

switch it to savage sweep, its uptime is significantly better in hordes

[solar gorge]

how

do you miss in hordes

[twilit otter]

DONE

[olive raven]

timer > chain

ezpz

[solar gorge]

literal skill issue

[fading vale]

tbf you probably won't really notice much difference either way

[olive raven]

^

[twilit otter]

wrath seems to only build up on each individual swing does it not?

not targets hit

[frozen ibex]

Bleed knife carry lacerate too gud

[olive raven]

i raise you, big stick carry

[solar gorge]

yes

but you open up on a horde with an activated heavy if you can

[twilit otter]

so to get full cleave you would need to swing 5 times and on the sixth swing you would get full bonus

but in savage sweep you get full bonus on the second swing

[olive raven]

yes

[fading vale]

judging by the loadouts of 2 of your teammates seems about right

[solar gorge]

but you need minimum 3 targets so you'll never get any value out of it for mauler packs

or other such situations

[fading vale]

eh, you should already have it up or it's easy enough to get up, and then you can keep it up on maulers and ragers no problem

[frozen ibex]

Low plasteels

[solar gorge]

either way It doesn't matter both perform very good, i's just that I think being able to trigger your blessing anytime you want is favorable

after that it's your call

[twilit otter]

in my defense I joined way late in that game

[olive raven]

oh yea you did

sup lmao 💀

[twilit otter]

I was suprised to see most of the team was under 30 at the end

[olive raven]

tbh

ogryn is just

strong

i wouldve done better on zealot

[twilit otter]

I am fucking sick of playing ogryn

[olive raven]

im just levelling mine

[fading vale]

ogryn too braindead strong

[twilit otter]

getting netted all the time and shot all the time sucks

I have a levdl 200 and im sick of playing it

it does some things very good but again just sick of getting shot to ribbons and netted all the damn time

[olive raven]

tbh i dodge nets easier on ogryn

[twilit otter]

I have almost never been netted on my vet and psyker

i get netted all the damn time on ogryn

its more due to postitioning and the large size and short dodge

it just fucking happens

and its a teamplay check and most people dont free teammates quick enough

if you have an ogryn with bull rush on your team there is no conceivable way that a teammate should be netted for more than a second or two

[frozen ibex]

Momentum zealot never get caught by net. Zoom zoom

[twilit otter]

but then the ogryn gets netted and everyone has their finger up their bum

[onyx solar]

The worst is when I get a net fired at me from behind and the side at the same time

or I get ready to dodge a front net when somehow one snuck behind me

[solar gorge]

even in the highest diff people still go after chaff/trapper before helping the guy who got netted sadly

[onyx solar]

or it's three trappers in a trenchcoat ready to fire them all sequentially

[twilit otter]

there is always bullshit with nets, and it can be devistating to get caught, but at the end of the day it is a simple team play check that most players fail

[olive raven]

only should be doing this if there are multiple trappers imo

[twilit otter]

two of the most high priorty actions that you should take are getting a dog off someone (from range if you can) and freeing a player from a net

[onyx solar]

you forgot 1.) getting a small plasteel stash first

[steep igloo]

Tell that to the fucking aquarium brained randos

[solar gorge]

depends on how recently they fired

[twilit otter]

the only higher priorty action should be keeping yourself standing

[steep igloo]

Any time I get downed it's a death sentence because these fucks can't be expected to hold E when netter but instead proceed to slowly clear out the horde instead of picking me up

[twilit otter]

and i mean standing, not protecting your health just staying up

[twilit otter]

I have made clutch saves with my ogryn that have cost like 300-400 health

[ember yew]

skill tissue

[left iron]

Good evening young ones

I bring upon thee words of wisdom

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/you-thank-appreciate-it-preciate-gif-23646122

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-week-tummy-cute-funny-gif-7326480

[left iron]

Do not move into an apartment with 12 floors, where yours is on the top floor, and your bed does not fit into the elevator

My god

This was the last time

[ember yew]

oh darn i had a friend with similar experience

[left iron]

I have moved away from my own house now, and rented it out so i can rent a house myself closer to uni

Life is hard

[lean lark]

my latest creation

[dense field]

Not bad at all

[lean lark]

if i wanted to maximize it i'd need 80% dmg cleave dmg and first target with t4 headtaker deahtlbow maniac and elites

base stats wouldnt change anything

[solar gorge]

headtaker my beloved

[ornate bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/635639651465429005.gif?size=64

if only i cud giv it away

[celest cave]

1% away from breakpoint

[ornate bone]

have this one

kek

[fading vale]

why unarmored though

and showstopper to blaze

[ornate bone]

iv been trying to get blaze

and forgot what perk was good on it

[sturdy gyro]

hey guys this is worth it to buy?

[fading vale]

flamer wants flak/elites/unyielding

[tulip tendon]

Is this worth it over my already powersword, knife, and mIIIg?

[fading vale]

yes and swap both perks

[ornate bone]

well can only pick 1 perk since id need to change showstopper for blaze i guess

[fading vale]

no, taxe is pretty much worse than every other weapon

[ornate bone]

or do u think changing both perks would bne better

[sturdy gyro]

Put crit and?

[fading vale]

no crit perk

flak and maniac/unyielding/carapace/elites

[tulip tendon]

I was thinking of just destroying the weapon and taking BM for a different weapon

[fading vale]

see crusher guide in pins

[sturdy gyro]

k thx

[tulip tendon]

if This axe is good then I'd main it for a lil

[sturdy gyro]

idk if crowd control is that important

[fading vale]

61 ain't gonna change much of anything

[spare talon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/MDsI57CPYM

For you guys' viewing displeasure

[untold carbon]

God crusher is so damn fun, it makes me jealous that the Paul has gotten no love as of late

[fading vale]

it's basically a perfectly rolled 7, but taxe is weak and 7 is kinda buggy

[tulip tendon]

So just buy it and take the BM blessing off?

or not worth buying for 2,460 coins or whatever

[fading vale]

I would keep it for when they fix and buff taxe, but depends on how many melk coins you have, would just be a future investment

[tulip tendon]

alright, ty

[north sedge]

you'd only be able to use the bm on other tac axes

[left iron]

Didnt mk7 taxe have something something if too much attack speed, light 2 damage window is too quick so it does no damage? Or am i remembering a different taxe

[fading vale]

that is the bug I am referring too

[left iron]

Dementia has not struck too hard for me yet

Soon, though

Soon

[lean lark]

happy birthday

[left iron]

Thanks, you too!

[ripe quest]

The only good part about that left branch is the 2% extra toughness on any kill the first node gives

Though it's a bit goofy since 15% crit chance and 2% extra toughness on kill is a bit weak for a keystone

Truly a keystone of all time

[safe whale]

I like to run the toughness node

[olive raven]

not worth it tbh

right side is strong af

[misty raven]

Do they realize 33% of 15% crit is 5% crit?

[spare talon]

So you found the glaring issue

[ripe quest]

Yeah the right side offers better crit CDR synergy which is generally the reason to take BP at all.

And in the rare case where it benefits the ranged weapon the right side also does that better.

[fleet zealot]

monching

[steep flame]

https://tenor.com/view/watermelon-eat-eat-watermelon-fox-gif-27677830

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/possum-ice-cream-lick-gif-7830449578289477431

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/beaver-carrot-eating-gif-21665554

[misty raven]

I remember I tried that side a few games. Missing that 10% crit really sucked.

[fleet zealot]

new ferret pattern found

[steep flame]

achlys mk 4 ferret

[native cargo]

Very effective in snow regions didn't even see the ferret in the video

[steel agate]

All I saw was a ball rolling down snowed on stairs

Idk bout u

[native cargo]

Yesm

[tulip tendon]

it's a dog with a ball. IDK how you dont see it

[native cargo]

Nah it's a hog

[untold carbon]

Pepper says hi

[tepid violet]

what does zealots want on curios?

[native cargo]

A very lovely pepper

[north sedge]

toughness 3x or 2 toughness 1 hp, 3 wounds if marty build

[tepid violet]

any special perks?

[untold carbon]

I personally go all hp or 2 hp 1 toughness

Gunner Resist, Sniper resist, 5% toughness, 5% HP

[plucky sparrow]

just used chorus to push a chaos spawn off a ledge to insta kill it yippie

[tepid violet]

thanks

[north sedge]

perks are gunner resist, toughness hp, a sniper is fine

[solar gorge]

welcome to the darktide ledging community

[north sedge]

i prefer edging

[plucky sparrow]

[untold carbon]

For Marty Curios all of mine have 5% hp and 5% toughness, then two gunner resist and one sniper resist

[olive raven]

please do understand zealot chat is sometimes heretical

[plucky sparrow]

then purge it?? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR GET THE HEAVY FLAMER

[olive raven]

sadly this is the purged edition

[plucky sparrow]

you still have ammo dont you? PURGE MORE

[solar gorge]

fortunately

[north sedge]

i'm edging my flamer

[untold carbon]

I’ve been speculating about how the Heavy Revolver could function and I’ve bounced between two ideas. It could be single action or be double action like the others but function sort of like the R8 from CS

[ripe quest]

R8 is like, the most mechanically unsatisfying weapons in CS

It'd be like if the Plasma Gun got no benefit for it's alt fire and it was also inaccurate

[untold carbon]

Hmmm yeah

I suppose single action could work

[frank night]

make it 1 shot every entity in the game and also give it friendly fire

[royal vortex]

no

[untold carbon]

@royal vortex yo I read the crusher guide and I’m loving the setups you recommended, also has great advice

[fading vale]

what's the point of a heavy revolver when the zarona already obliterates everything

and already has cleave

[blazing fossil]

make it obliterate everything harder

more cleave

[untold carbon]

Could probably be a side grade, sort of like how the ripper guns are

[vague depot]

finally got a autopistol above 350 how does this look

kinda sad no 80 but it is what it is

collateral is a dump stat right

[fading vale]

I don't know how you side grade the zarona, it already 1 or 2 shots everything

[untold carbon]

I don’t know either

[fading vale]

I suppose you could nerf it and then make a new revolver but

[untold carbon]

Yeah that’s a possibility

[fading vale]

could make a new one that isn't a crit weapon

[royal vortex]

crusher is one of those weapons where ppl will use it in really strange ways and then say it feels bad

[ripe quest]

I feel like that's kinda what the Agri should be. It being a finesse weapon with a rapid fire thing is kinda odd

[royal vortex]

or will rock double impact blessings and then lament the lack of damage

[ripe quest]

special light spam double impact blessings

the CC stick

[untold carbon]

Yeah I met some folks that only spammed lights and didn’t see the point in using heavies because they “leave you way too open” like my man have you heard of dodging?

It hurt my soul trying to argue with them

[royal vortex]

crab had a really good idea for giving weapons different finesse modifier distributions, so like 75% weakspot 25% crit, the normal 50/50, or 25% weakspot 75% crit

it would be cool if agri had more headshot damage but less crit, since it on-paper has the least scattershot synergy

[royal vortex]

yeah lmao

[ripe quest]

They kinda have it but it's never any more than a like 10% difference and is weapon specific

I think that would definitely help some weapons

[royal vortex]

or spamming activated attacks constantly cuz it's "safer", not realizing you can fling stuff without using activations most of the time

i've seen some really sad gameplay clips where dudes just straight up die to gunners cuz they were lightspamming and not actually killing them

[ripe quest]

Giving more ways to diversify a weapon in a family is welcome esp since Fatshark isn't creative

[untold carbon]

The only reason I’m curious about the heavy revolver is mainly on how it could handle

[untold carbon]

Or just spamming charged l1s

[fading vale]

I could maybe see a like, plasma handcannon kind of feeling thing

[royal vortex]

the discussion specifically was me malding about how ogryn lacks complexity and largely doesn't even interact with finesse, cuz imagine if ogryn had finesse weapons more based around crit damage

whereas rn every "crit" weapon is also a headshot weapon

and they haven't really uncoupled those two concepts to any large degree

[fading vale]

so true

[royal vortex]

a heavier revolver would be cool if it was like

rannick's gun

with the explosive round

ideally what you'd probs do is drop the carapace adm on the zarona and maybe even the flak a bit

and then have it be the "armor killer" gun basically

but hand cannon exists. and that makes this annoying

[north sedge]

bay leaf

[fading vale]

they need more armor killing options

[royal vortex]

zealot does for sure

at least for ranged

[fading vale]

yeah, cause rn it's just like, oh use chastise

[royal vortex]

ur basically locked into chastise if u want to shoot crushers with a gun which is fairly annoying

[untold carbon]

If only the crit chance on Ogryn weapons wasn’t like 0.5 or something stupid like that

[lean lark]

the surgical handcannon revolver knocking at your door

[royal vortex]

yeah

[lean lark]

i think its pretty balanced.

[fading vale]

you can cope with a bolter but like, it has a total crusher kill capacity of what like 20 without chastise, which is uh

[lean lark]

it should get buffed.

[fading vale]

not great

[lean lark]

the bolter does its job and i appreciate for it

[lean lark]

the thing i like the most about shattering impact bolter with my build is

[royal vortex]

💣

[untold carbon]

The only Ogryn weapon that benefits from crit in any meaningful way is the Kickback with surgical

[lean lark]

the small aoe dmg procs brittleness

and usually when i meet a crusher pack
immo -> bolter -> chastise

so if they dont die to the bolter, they'll die to the chastised immolation + brittleness

[royal vortex]

there's also charmed reload on the stubbers, but charmed reload has mostly fallen to the wayside with stuff like gunlugger ult

ogryn doesn't really need a lot of headshot weapons but more interaction with crits would be cool

[untold carbon]

Yeah that’s why I didn’t mention it

[royal vortex]

cleavers have stuff like devstrike/smackdown but literally no reason to use them

[untold carbon]

We’ll have to see what the Thugshot has in store

[royal vortex]

and it would be cool if they had better crit interactions cuz like

finesse damage doesn't boost cleave damage all that well, it's mostly a single target sorta thing

so being able to build cleavers to have better single-target with crits if they actually did anything and ogryn didn't have baseline super low crit chance for whatever reason would be cool

[fading vale]

also crit chaining is just silly on some stuff (columnus)

[royal vortex]

yea

recons had it kneecapped to 2 shots in a chain when they nerfed em

eventually it will happen to the iags

[fading vale]

oof the recon was nerfed to 2?

that's shit

it should be the highest

[royal vortex]

the worst part is they all have different fire rates

recon is just in a really bad state rn

[untold carbon]

Imagine if Ogryn got a melee that has access to shred that could be interesting

[frank night]

thats

[royal vortex]

they let it be good in p13 because of very specific talent interactions and then they were like

perish

[frank night]

who

[royal vortex]

the large fish

[fading vale]

yeah but that interaction was stupid cause rending and infinite ammo

[royal vortex]

well yeah

[frank night]

recon seems to only get good when some weird unintended shit sends it to the moon

and then the fish fixes it

[royal vortex]

those talents are still cancer in their current forms

[frank night]

and they go to the bottom of the ocean again

[royal vortex]

one day they will give the recons a fair balance pass

instead of beating them with a sledgehammer every time people start to like them

[frank night]

they could just be lazer autoguns

[fading vale]

just put crab on it, granted I think he hates recons cause it's braindead point and hold

[frank night]

with worse cleave but better something else

[untold carbon]

Also day ??? of waiting for Paul to get buffed

[frank night]

they don't need to be crazy

just not ass

[royal vortex]

i hope they just make it like the ogryn crusher

[untold carbon]

Same

That would be awesome

[fading vale]

hey at least ogryn has more than like 2 melee weapons now

[royal vortex]

the moveset on the paul rn is really weird. i think it deserves an actual moveset remake

[frank night]

damn maybe someone should write a guide

[royal vortex]

there's an l5 you only get by chaining it from 2 heavies that is identical to iirc the l3 but chains slower

[karmic sparrow]

God roll?

[royal vortex]

godroll

[untold carbon]

They also need to speed up the heavies

And also make the charge animation quicker

[north sedge]

keep the nutshot though

make it all nutshots in fact

but it gets weakspot dmg

[royal vortex]

paul in general just needs to be faster

i am curious to see if theyll like properly rework it or just give it some really weird numbers

[untold carbon]

Except on trappers and Dreg Flamers

For reasons

[royal vortex]

fs seems to go back and forth on whether or not they fix a problematic weapon by throwing stat buffs or addressing core issues

[fading vale]

shield does not give me hope

[north sedge]

would still hurt alot

[royal vortex]

like chaxe got a couple rounds of "here's some better numbers" before they actually like

made it able to dodge out of revs

[royal vortex]

[heavy arch]

i was in an auric and there was an xbox player who brought gray knife and gray revolver

he ended up with the most disable kills and never downed but he also didnt do jack shit on dmg ofc

[royal vortex]

i respect it

i love xbox players

[heavy arch]

same

well idk about that last bit

[royal vortex]

dude its like

ppl were always "games dead 2k players shit game"

alright bro u got ur wish

[untold carbon]

Yeah I actually started using both chainaxes a decent bit, hell I beat the twins on hard with a mk XII chainaxe

[royal vortex]

the xbox legions are here

[heavy arch]

do they mostly matchmake with themselves?

most of the time i dont see xbox players

[royal vortex]

no idea tbh

i only really get like 1 xbox player a match most of the time but i also usually have at least 1 other guy in a strike team when i pub

[heavy arch]

o im always pugging

i prolly just dont notice

[royal vortex]

they made them much more human-friendly

[frank night]

I havent actually seen a guy who is willing to die on the hill of the recon las recently

maybe they're dying out

[royal vortex]

i described chaxe before as the anti-homeless architecture of dt weapons

[untold carbon]

[royal vortex]

it felt like a weapon that was mad you decided to use it

now its ok

[heavy arch]

like the guy who came up with the special olympics

[frank night]

the whole chainsword rev sticking into enemy thing is just not suited to DT

because the game never gets you with one thing

it gets you with the one thing that tries to distract you from the second thing which knocks you into the third thing

and it is by the third thing that you are then get got

[untold carbon]

I got a Mk XII and a Mk IV chainaxe called Skullsplitter and Spinegrider that I swap between

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

i quite like the new chainaxe particularly on vet

cuz u can unrevved heavy one-shot a bunch of different enemies

[untold carbon]

I like the Mk XII being able to one shot crushers without chastise

Specifically with thrust

But I wish the lights were a little better tbh

[royal vortex]

i couldnt use it until they added rev sounds to the lights

when it released and it was like beta chainsword with completely blunt sounding lights

oh man

[untold carbon]

Oh yeah I remember that, it was just a one handed hammer for a bit

[royal vortex]

now we just need a 2 handed chaxe

[heavy arch]

what about 2 smaller chain axes at once

[untold carbon]

I hope that it wasn’t scrapped

[royal vortex]

tbf there's a bunch of unreleased weapon models

[untold carbon]

Yeah

[north sedge]

it was a throw back to when chainsword was like that in beta, except also unrevved attacks were garbage on chainsword then

[royal vortex]

like all the new chainweaps models were datamined a long time ago

so it was probs just shelved for the time being until they decided to work on it again

(copium)

also there's this crusher model in the files

and i fucking

NEED IT

[gray ice]

that do be a nice lookin crusher

waiting for an actual crusher skin that looks good

[untold carbon]

Pole Axe Crusher

[north sedge]

looks like the fist-o-matic 40,000

[gray ice]

or any crusher skin for that matter

[royal vortex]

there was one

it was one of the first shop rotations

and it has not come back since

[gray ice]

I must've missed it

do you remember it?

[royal vortex]

it's the thumbnail for the crusher guide

[untold carbon]

There was this Paul model that was datamined, I need it. It looks like it’d have an overhead

[gray ice]

ohhh I think I do remember this one

[royal vortex]

when i was testing different perk combos for the guide i had the default skin on a couple of the crushers and it genuinely felt so gross to use lmao

[hallow hatch]

in order to get high level blessings does it matter what the base number of weapon is

[royal vortex]

yes

[hallow hatch]

is there a guide in getting blessings or anything

[royal vortex]

the higher the base rating the better your chances of t4

so if u wanna blessing farm i'd only upgrade 360+

[hallow hatch]

ok

thanks

[royal vortex]

it was way back when the crusher was just awful to use lmao

i bought that shit as an INVESTMENT

[untold carbon]

But as much as I want it I want the current Paul to be in a good spot before we get new ones

[royal vortex]

i have relative hope they won't powercreep the paul

cuz they fixed the old shovel before adding in the two folded ones

[untold carbon]

Yeah, yeah you’re right

[north sedge]

it helps that it came with the disco pants pirate set

[untold carbon]

I forgot about that

[royal vortex]

do u mean the one with gold pants + the goggles

[untold carbon]

Ok that makes me feel better

[north sedge]

yes

[hallow hatch]

😭

[royal vortex]

that set was the shit

[north sedge]

it's quality

[royal vortex]

tbh it's like a difference of 2 base cleave from 36-ish to 80

[north sedge]

and came with the crusher and autopistol skins

[royal vortex]

i'd upgrade it if i were you

[hallow hatch]

wait wat

[untold carbon]

One of my favorite loadouts

[hallow hatch]

fr?

[royal vortex]

cuz the 15's lights are target capped at 4, so they don't damage any enemies hit beyond the 4th

[royal vortex]

o yea

the gold pants were PEAK with shirtless

[hallow hatch]

wait what do you mean 2 base cleave

is cleave a dump stat?

[royal vortex]

it's not an ideal dumpstat (mobility is better) but you're not losing a huge amount of weapon performance

[hallow hatch]

ok ill upgrade it

[untold carbon]

Let’s hope for shred and rampage

[hallow hatch]

im looking to replace this one

[north sedge]

you can fix her

[untold carbon]

Tbh I’d just swap rev it up for rampage and cara for something like flak or maniac

[royal vortex]

tbh on that evis you just posted i'd swap both blessings for bloodthirsty/rampage

with +cara you can get the rev'd h1 crusher one-tap

[indigo quartz]

carapace is clutch on making the BP for curhers

but not having flak hurts for maulers

[north sedge]

yea you have options there

[untold carbon]

On second thought ignore what I said and listen to this man

[north sedge]

dont need to throw out the whole thing

[royal vortex]

shred/rampage is also fine

and then u can swap unyielding or cara if u go that route

[maiden path]

did u guys hear what drops january 7nth

[royal vortex]

deez

[maiden path]

no

https://tenor.com/view/flute-dome-jay-easy-mega-man-megaman-listen-gif-6959961882371481712

[hallow hatch]

ok

ok ill give it some thought on which one to choose

to either replace both blessings or replace rev it up with rampage

[onyx lodge]

a gift from the emperor should i yellow it and see? or just take the blessing?

[untold carbon]

I’d take the blessing

[onyx lodge]

excellent

[onyx lodge]

and i been messing with this

[untold carbon]

The best part about crusher is that it’s really easy to get the best blessings for it because it only has like 4 blessings and only 2 of them are worth it, those being skullcrusher and hammerblow

[onyx lodge]

i have no blessings for hammers

[royal vortex]

i'd just grab skrusher off it yeah

[onyx lodge]

i snagged it

[fading vale]

hammer is dead without thrust and also don't use block efficiency

[onyx lodge]

im not sure about hammers i like myu two handed chainsaw

[fading vale]

blocking is not enough of a thing in this game to warrant building anything for more blocking

[royal vortex]

not terrible tbh, +elites is at least decent. can swap bloodletter/unarmored and use it for a crit build

[fading vale]

36 cleave targets tho is pretty sus

[royal vortex]

it's not the biggest loss

[onyx lodge]

i made a melee charging zealot and i have to say... cutting everything to bits is a game changer

[royal vortex]

rampage should still let u cleave two maulers on a bodyshot

[onyx lodge]

sooo fun

[spare dome]

yea

[hallow hatch]

is this chainaxe good or is the old one better?

[royal vortex]

on old evis i wouldn't dump cleave targets but the new one it's p whatever

[royal vortex]

both are good

[untold carbon]

Yeah

[royal vortex]

thats a v good roll and u have a desirable perk so i'd upgrade it

[ripe quest]

Mk IV is better with crowds and the Mk XII is better for single target.

[hallow hatch]

ok

[ripe quest]

That XII is a solid start

Actually both are

[onyx lodge]

id make trhem both and see lol but im a hadron junkie

[fading vale]

huh it's only a 2 cleave loss, tf is fatsharks scaling

[royal vortex]

yeah lmao

[ripe quest]

Yeah it's not a crazy loss. I'd still dump mobility over it but it's not a huge difference

[onyx lodge]

thrust is a blessing?

[ripe quest]

yeah

[onyx lodge]

oof ill have to make alot more hammers

im not sure i like them but i havent had a great one yet

[fading vale]

this blessing, scales on how long you hold the heavy and stacks pretty fast tbh

[untold carbon]

The blessings you want are thrust/headtaker or thrust/slaughterer depending on your preference

[rancid fern]

that guy hamdosolun loads on steam aprox 20 times a day and sometimes within seconds for me
[20:10]

[onyx lodge]

those are really nice numbers...

[rancid fern]

he's probably cheating

[fading vale]

and power is damage cleave and stagger, so very very good blessing

[onyx lodge]

can people make docket bots in here if they appear/dissapear mabye bots

i hates bots

FFXIV is rife with them

[quaint verge]

Didn't you one shot a BoN with full slaugther stacks with that hammer?

[fading vale]

I think I could probably one shot bonbon with full slaughterer duellist and sustained with chastise, but that video was from 75% slaughterer

and it's hard to have duellist on bonbon weakspot

[quaint verge]

True

[royal vortex]

the paid actor scab shooter

[north sedge]

vet tag / taunt would make it cake

[safe tulip]

i want to take t4 headtaker off this and slap it on my legendary one right

[amber sluice]

is new evis good?

[royal vortex]

yea

[untold carbon]

Yes

[ripe quest]

It's better at single target and worse at crowds than the Mk II. With Bloodthirsty you can chain Crusher 1 shots, fairly fun.

[amber sluice]

what exactly is the point of the rev?

[hallow hatch]

which one should i take ?

[north sedge]

to kill things

thrust

[amber sluice]

what does it so better

should u always rev?

[royal vortex]

thrust

[untold carbon]

I really wish the light chains of both evis were swapped

[hallow hatch]

this sword any good?

i dont see people really use it

[untold carbon]

But the new one still scratches the ExE sword itch so I can’t complain

[steel agate]

Chainsword? Is nice

Good mix of mobility and damage

[untold carbon]

Yeah

[north sedge]

rev is for killing big things mostly, except mk2 evisc its good for horde clear

[untold carbon]

I love the mk4 chainsword

[steel agate]

Even with bottom rolled mobility

[distant gyro]

guys tell please who knows
trying to complete this penance
is it possible to do it with new talent tree?
or it works like an ogryn achievement smthg in your eye ? only possible with vanilla grenade?

[fading vale]

it is possible if you take stun node yes

[sage swan]

I did it with a flamer way back when, just get a big horde

[untold carbon]

The blessings you want on it are rampage/shred or rampage and wrath/savage sweep

For perks you want the usual flak and maniac

[wide shuttle]

FUCK, so close to greatness, melk, so close

[north sedge]

<@&735928989146939404>

[wide shuttle]

@narrow tartan

[royal vortex]

no thank u

[wide shuttle]

Thanks mods

[lusty turtle]

just @ wardens for stuff like this

[wide shuttle]

Ah ok!

My bad

[sage swan]

OUTTA MY WAY IM BOUTA GET IT

my identity has been stolen

[blazing fossil]

damn what did I miss?

heresy?

[sage swan]

Hope that person gets their account back eventually, they probably clicked on the exact same link and got their shit taken

[untold carbon]

Some dumbass posting a link to a porn server

In a public space

[blazing fossil]

oh lol

[wide shuttle]

Likely lost his account to a scam

Sad day

[hallow hatch]

ty

[frosty herald]

people still falling for fake links

[sharp zodiac]

Back in France

[untold carbon]

Np pal

[sage swan]

No it was a real link to a real discord server, but hackers can steal your account just by joining a server

[wide shuttle]

... how important is penetration?
I'm tempted

[fading vale]

I get friend invites with OF links and stuff, is annoying

[sharp zodiac]

That's why you use two factor authentication

[fading vale]

that evis is good, replace momentum and weakspot

[sage swan]

2FA doesn't matter for that kind of account stealing

[frosty herald]

Just use only accept dms from friends

[sage swan]

completely bypasses it

[wide shuttle]

Thanks

[sage swan]

A friend of mine fell for the "try out this new game I'm working on" shtick, because a gamedev friend of theirs got their account stolen

[bitter anvil]

Shit happen

[sage swan]

discord took about... 4 months to get their account back, and even then the whole thing got nuked

[frosty herald]

If you suddenly get a link dm always suspect malicious intent

[wide shuttle]

replace momentum with savage sweeps or bloodthirsty?

[vale carbon]

when would one use the light attacks on the ironhelm? i played a run with it and it was pretty good, but i pretty much just heavy spammed
i guess one could cancel out of that overhead heavy but idgaf
i just charge it least

[sharp zodiac]

Even if it's from a friend

[fading vale]

Sweep, and weak spot to flak

[buoyant rune]

guys im going to try the KNIFE build wich knife do u guys usually use? new one or old one?

[wide shuttle]

cheers

[sage swan]

Could do Shred too, if you're doing a crit build

[vale carbon]

should i replace man-stopper with flechette on this shotgun?

[raven swan]

cause it takes 7 to 8 hit to down even the lowest pox with flamer 😦 sadge

[vale carbon]

finnaly managed to get flechette in the shop

wait wtf? i thought health only went to 20%?

[left iron]

Health goes to 21, toughness to 17

[untold carbon]

Replace it with fire frenzy

[vale carbon]

i found plenty of 20s

[sage swan]

21 health is probably the rarest to find

[hallow hatch]

i made 1+ million selling all my weapons

[vale carbon]

why specifically that over say, no respite or deathspitter?

[fading vale]

poxwalkers are infested, most threats are flak

[vale carbon]

aren't dogs and mutants infested?

or are mutants maniac?

[fading vale]

infested is poxwalkers dogs and bursters

[sage swan]

Mutants are Maniac

[fading vale]

maniac is dreg ragers mutants flamers trappers

[fading vale]

no respite is the best choice, scattershot isn't the best on kant but it's usable I suppose

[olive raven]

jesus fuck

[blazing fossil]

i might hit 100k plasteel today

[raven swan]

I still feel like Flamer ddeserves a boost

[raven swan]

That's a lot of plasteel bud

[blazing fossil]

I'm going to sell it to the xenos

[raven swan]

cries in gothic

[untold carbon]

The setup you want is fire frenzy and no respite

[sage swan]

I could see scattershot/flechette being a funny meme build, if you get a crit with the special fire it would delete hordes.

But that's only if you get that crit, and since you have to shoot twice to get that crit and use it, two special shots from a kant already deletes hordes

[north sedge]

flamer is strong

[onyx lodge]

ahh i seee the porn people came for thier little moment

dont they have enough porn discords

i bet they smell like poo

[fading vale]

naw, it's one of the best weapons in the game

[north sedge]

hey ya'll i just tried flamer and like, is it so very bad?

[left iron]

Did you try turning it off and on again?

[sage swan]

It's good, but you have to rely on teammates to kill everything that isn't in flamer range

[north sedge]

no, could you mayhaps link me to a 7-86 part video series to show me how?

[south folio]

@royal vortex write a guide about a flamer pls

[royal vortex]

no

[sage swan]

Flamer/throwing knife could be good, just have to get good at throwing knives

[south folio]

binch

[muted sonnet]

It's cool and fun to use but definitely not fantastic

[amber sluice]

used to be so good

[muted sonnet]

Esp. because you just have so many other good horde clear tools as zealot

[fading vale]

I mean flamer has a 23m range, staggers everything, and chastise exists for 20m movement

[north sedge]

my beautiful bait...

[sage swan]

It used to be meta, but they increased it's ammo usage by so much that it just guzzles ammo drops

[north sedge]

(flamer is strong as hell, lol)

[vague depot]

this is enough right

[left iron]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

Flamer is strong?

[fading vale]

if you run out of ammo on flamer you are incapable of using the easiest weapon in the game

[ripe quest]

Flamer is still a very competitive ranged option.

[muted sonnet]

I don't think it's bad but I don't think it's amazing

[royal vortex]

flamer does really good at one thing and it's not really horde clear

it's elite pack deletion

[muted sonnet]

And it's super fun to use so who cares

[left iron]

I, too, think a weapon that removes anything in front of me is just okay

[royal vortex]

it also still only takes like ~5 ammo to kill a poxwalker (an infinite amount since it has infinite cleave)

[muted sonnet]

yea

[muted sonnet]

yea

Pray Hadron doesn't brick it

[vague depot]

Thank god

[sage swan]

I love a weapon that becomes completely useless when a bulwark shows up

[vague depot]

It’s already bricked I’ll just have to farm for the right blessings to put on it

[muted sonnet]

What happened

Post updated

How bad

[vague depot]

I wanted damage vs maniacs and flak

And blaze away or inspiring barrage

[muted sonnet]

As we all do

[vague depot]

its not looking too good rn

[north sedge]

flamer is strong

[fading vale]

there is no weapon that will outperform a flamer in scab melee only

[muted sonnet]

Pinning fire is good

[vague depot]

I think I might leave pinning fire

[fading vale]

it's hands down the strongest in that mode

[ripe quest]

Another flamer

[vague depot]

And take inspiring barrage alone

[royal vortex]

bugged fire rounds ripper ogryn has been dethroned

😔

[ripe quest]

[vague depot]

And then replace stamina with maniac

[muted sonnet]

Pinning fire is unironically good, that's bricked if you don't get a good gold blessing

[vague depot]

Gg

[muted sonnet]

Carapace is dog on that and obv. stam too

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/vb1fms

[steep flame]

2

[sage swan]

Can you still do the chastise crit trick with flamer? Like, is it still effective?

[ripe quest]

Ah yes, the Flamer with good direct damage.

[vague depot]

I want this build

[ripe quest]

Fury still gives the armor downgrade to ranged weapons

[vague depot]

This goes crazy

[fading vale]

chastise does not cause ranged crit, but it downgrades armor

[royal vortex]

oh u cant do this anymore

[royal vortex]

it was a bug where pellet weapons would apply the 3 burn stacks per bodypart hit

[muted sonnet]

Classic

Ripper burn stacks still kinda fun doe

With Flechette 😈

We love DoTs!!

[north sedge]

should just pin that crusher kill video exhil did with flamer

so i can have another guy try to tell me he only killed one instead of 20

[fading vale]

yeah I have a video where I killed 17 out of 20

[royal vortex]

only 17 😔

needs a buff

[ember yew]

gave this one

a test run

as a result did more ranged damage than melee

[fading vale]

yeah that's incredibly good

[ember yew]

last time i use brauto 9 was in october

been awhile

[fading vale]

it basically has infinite ammo now

[vague depot]

On a zealot relic build should i go for toughness or health curios

[fading vale]

anything not marty the recommended is 3 toughness or 2 toughness 1 HP

[vague depot]

Why 1 hp

[vapid mirage]

to have more health

[fading vale]

just cause you can get high enough toughness from the tree now

[vague depot]

Fair

[muted sonnet]

Gyattt

[vale carbon]

which of these 3 perks is the least awful, do you think? i'm considering corruption resist

[ornate bone]

homie went and did the 🤨

[fading vale]

yeah corruption resist

[vale carbon]

what exactly is the point of mutant resist anyway

they don't hit you that commonly and it seems like they don't do much damage as much as toss you around

[fading vale]

there is no point

[vale carbon]

unrelated, but does gunner resist include shotgunners? or just the machinegunners?

[fading vale]

gunners and reapers

[abstract heart]

i vote block efficiency, but if you dont run beacon of purity corruption resist is useful

[fading vale]

block efficiency just doesn't really do anything

[vale carbon]

I honestly don't block that much 😂

[fading vale]

yeah you shouldn't

[ornate bone]

I still lament the events of yesterday

Where a guy in the pre-match told us "I have survivalist, go nuts", I replied "I'm allergic" but didn't actually quit to seal the joke

[south folio]

dum bith

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-slap-kat-slap-slap-cat-cate-gif-7906458944533086715

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-and-loaded-machine-gun-lets-do-this-throwback-angry-gif-14840322

[placid lily]

[wide shuttle]

Sometimes, just sometimes, you can say "It's my teammates" when you lose a mission

[muted sonnet]

I've seen an argument that having at least one 20% mutant resist is not that bad if you happen to roll it and can't reroll

SInce they do so little damage that the 20% literally almost nullifies their damage if you have like full toughness

[vale carbon]

yeah it's not a worthless stat if you can't get rid of it

but it feels pointless to willfully have it lol

[muted sonnet]

Having multiple is def not a good idea though unlike Gunner, Sniper, etc.

[vale carbon]

how much can you reduce gunner damage anyway

[north sedge]

it's pretty terrible

mutant that is

[dense field]

By almost 50% IIRC

[ripe quest]

Each one is a 0.8x multiplier to gunner damage. With 3x you take 48.8% less damage from them.

If you stack gunner resistance and normal TDR you can make them a non-threat

[hallow hatch]

...

[olive raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1193675072402104400/image.png?ex=65ad938a&is=659b1e8a&hm=8db009a2544dd1f055c436b5f392b4a7080ba4c74c96057e37f20fed3fa97238&

[fading vale]

damn that is ultra bricked

[olive raven]

credit to @pure zephyr

[hallow hatch]

ill just stick with this

[minor sage]

uncanny kinda overrated ngl

lacerate flesh tearer is best

[fading vale]

[olive raven]

love this

[frank night]

ur a failure

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lurking-gif-22179921

your're mum

[frank night]

excellent steve

[frank night]

what is the big version of ur pfp sterling

[ornate bone]

I couldn't find a version without the logo, so I improvised

[frank night]

why does she look like she's woken up the main character to tell them she threw up

[ornate bone]

I want her to come to my ear in that rough but eloquent voice she has and go "the mother proclaimed it is my turn using the xbox"

[frank night]

u can get a lot of her VA in 40k stuff because she's p much Jane Sister of Battle

done a lot of audiobooks and trailers

[royal vortex]

steve

[fading vale]

such an attitude

[placid lily]

[tardy thicket]

Theoretically, would the Crucis bonk build work on the twins

obv not one shot but would it still deal a shit ton of damage

[ashen quartz]

probably but you'd probably lose hella damage to the gating

[royal vortex]

the crucis boss damage comes from a huge unyielding damage multiplier on the special

and the twins aren't unyielding

so it will be much less

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-misc-band-aliens-party-gif-4813411

[little thicket]

Which one?

[hushed knoll]

Cattitude

[cursive cloak]

Is there more then one pattern of crusher maul for zealots?

[hushed knoll]

[ripe quest]

Swap the Crucis for a Chaxe and it'll chunk them.

[solar gorge]

rev attack good on shields

[royal vortex]

just the mk ive

[cursive cloak]

Shame, ty

I think it's my favorite Zealots weapon

[ripe quest]

Yeah the base attack revs will ruin the shields.

[royal vortex]

i love the crusher

[solar gorge]

thammer used to be my favourite zealot melee but it's crusher now ever since they buffed/reworked it

[crisp schooner]

Hi
Does anyone have an effective build with the knife?

[fleet zealot]

uncanny+precognition

maniac, flak, unyielding, carapace, elites in that order priority

anyways look at this tail go

[cursive cloak]

I have saved so many runs by ccing entire mobs of maulers, bulwark, and crushers with the crusher

[ripe quest]

Oh I still gotta test perks on the knife

[left hare]

whats a good automatic rifle for zealot?

[fleet zealot]

agri braced autogun

[ripe quest]

The Columnus IAG is also fun

[royal vortex]

all of the iags/brautos are usable

[fleet zealot]

if you are on PC

get the full auto mod

and use a HH

namely the vraks 3 is the best for zealot imo

[left hare]

head hunter?

[ripe quest]

Yeah

[left hare]

vrak 3 okay

ty

[fleet zealot]

they are burst fire by default

[ripe quest]

The 7 is also fun if you like semi instead of burst

[fleet zealot]

but I use the full auto mod which just autofires if you hold down M1

[celest basin]

What will give me more dps (more or less) with Evi mk15? Stacks of damage and attack speed from momentum or crits from Piety?

[ripe quest]

Judgement

Evis isn't a finesse weapon

So raw damage will provide more value than crits and related bonuses

[golden anchor]

Take momentum and use shred for crits, now you can go even faster

Assuming chastise

[celest basin]

As I was thinking, thanks

Yeah, chastise, shred and momentum

It’s funny how fast I can swing on 20 stacks of momentum, chastise active and fast stim 😅

[minor sage]

martyrdom also pretty good

lots of attackspeed and damage

[spare dome]

the mk15 is fkn slow too

so may as well get all that attack speed

youre pretty much untouchable with five martyrdom stacks

[celest basin]

I hate martyrdom so I will stick with momentum :)

[minor sage]

ye go for it lol

the martyr version is pretty fun cuz you can just stat check everything

like ragers, gunners etc

whereas momentum and piety you actually have to dodge

which is fucking digusting

[golden anchor]

Why dodge when chastise is always up

Free stuns lol

I guess martyrdom can roll cdr too though

[celest basin]

Yeah, but I need to lose 75% of health to receive maybe 40% more buffs than from momentum, lol. And dodging is part of a game, very important part, but you do you 😅

[random ridge]

if it comes to crowd control and damage on one target which weapon to choose? I use crusher and it's pretty neat, cause of fine pattern and nice damage after dashing and using heavy attack... Is something better in that case?

[celest basin]

Crusher is awesome. If there is too much to handle activate special and bonk

[random ridge]

I use it all the time vs maulers and bulwarks

[celest basin]

For me crusher is a A tier weapon, but I prefer to kill faster so I run Evi crit build or devil mk4

I’ve got boltgun for heavy guys 😅

[fading vale]

crusher does some of the best damage, read guide

[random ridge]

i use laser pistol cause it's still pretty decent vs armored fellas and it has much higher accuracy and lower recoil

[fading vale]

laspistol does highest damage to flak

[north sedge]

Reading difficult

[crisp schooner]

what about talent and the second weapon?

[polar nexus]

still a pain against maniacs

[random ridge]

im sorry mr max for not reading whole guide

[mossy lodge]

guys what should i use? mk2 or mk4?

[fleet zealot]

talents pick up scourge, go for whatever aura you want, go the charge or the relic (stealth is bait for knife)

then go into blazing piety

the right side of the blazing piety talents + cdr on critical strike specifically

[fleet zealot]

whichever one you prefer

but uhh

both of those suck

[mossy lodge]

what should i look for then?

[fleet zealot]

pstrike is just a worse wrath/savage sweep on mk2 by 100% and less uptime

and mk15 doesn't want a cleave blessing at all

it has a hard damage cap of 4 which you hit anyways, so yuo go rampage+ shred or rampage+ whatever

[mossy lodge]

on mk 4, righ?

[fleet zealot]

mk15

[mossy lodge]

ok

[fleet zealot]

https://www.dictionary.com/e/roman-numerals/

XV=15

[mossy lodge]

ok

[fleet zealot]

otherwise you got your perk knowledge and modifier score perfect

[mossy lodge]

what blessing do i need for mk15?

[celest basin]

Rampage is a must

[fleet zealot]

rampage+ dealers choice

[verbal sequoia]

ohh baby

[fleet zealot]

usually people go shred or bloodthirsty

[sharp haven]

worth investing into?

[fleet zealot]

nah shredder a bit low and you are stuck with 2 meh blessings for the mk2

mk2 wants rampage+sweep or wrath since the horizontal heavy doesn't have a cleave damage cap

[open echo]

Why Bloodletter?

[fleet zealot]

bloodletter is just bad on evi, even mk2,

it's not even good on chaxe that goes to 16 stacks at rank 4

[sharp haven]

I upgraded before realizing that LOL

[fleet zealot]

you could fix both blessings

and have something to use before you get something better

[minor sage]

XV = 4

i see

thanks for clarifying

[sharp haven]

eh I have a better evisc anyways, I think

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-brick-hit-fish-toink-spongebob-gif-24552343

[ripe quest]

I love the Mk 53g Chainsword

[untold carbon]

[royal vortex]

im more a mk 11 evis kinda guy

[modest quiver]

game's trying to make me brainrot..

[royal vortex]

😔

stay strong

[polar nexus]

it's knifuary 👌

[blazing fossil]

thats next month

[polar nexus]

we're just out of chaincember, what is this month?

axuary?

[misty raven]

Knives are like cursed objects that change people once they touch them

[modest quiver]

the only thing cursed is my ability to roll uncanny 3 or above lol

[polar nexus]

i dunno, i play vet medic knife with it

[modest quiver]

fingers crossed for today's melk. goodnight for now

[twilit perch]

Is this good?

[polar nexus]

yes

keep the perks

change the blessings

[golden anchor]

Yes 😀

[twilit perch]

Hell yeah!

[polar nexus]

you can test whatever you want with it, and base + perks are top

[golden anchor]

Bleed gud, flamewar inc

[polar nexus]

so, that's the last knife you'll ever need

[polar nexus]

i don't mind bleed, especially paired with rending and if it synergyzes with zealots and ogryns

[golden anchor]

I dont really have an opinion on it since i dislike all knife in general lol

[polar nexus]

don't you dislike knife users instead?

[golden anchor]

Nah, i think its pretty mid but people always try to hype it up lol

And the situations it can solve can basically be done with almost any other zealot weapon

Overrated weapon basically, but games are for fun

[blazing fossil]

lol got pounced trying to rescue this guy and we all wiped

[ornate bone]

Dick Kickem

[twilit otter]

tougnness or HP curios?

[north sedge]

Toughness

[polar nexus]

2tg 1hp or 1tg 2hp at first

then decide if you want to go all the way

[fleet zealot]

toughness is prefered but people run 3hp and honestly it's just preference

3toughness is technically better and that is what i use off martyrdom

[stray summit]

Martyrdom Mentioned

[polar nexus]

It's always good to have tg and hp perks on curios

[next trench]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-scared-hands-shaking-shivering-gif-18714091

aiming with this thing

[ripe quest]

Real answer is to use what covers your weaknesses the best and see what synergizes with your build in a couple cases.

[frozen glen]

put ordos on ur curio

[next trench]

let that money flow

[polar nexus]

Exhil is pretty wisdomous

[next trench]

heaviest sword in the world

[ripe quest]

Real answer is to use curios

If you're as vague as possible you'll always be right

[north sedge]

3 1 stam curios, got it

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-waiting-berserk-gif-11623594

[fleet zealot]

FUCK IT WE BALLING

[blazing fossil]

cute cats

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-attack-ferret-attack-socks-gif-15818235

[digital yacht]

how do you get +1 stamina curios?

[north sedge]

i know a guy

[warm rapids]

should i make a guide on how to play support zealot?

[ornate bone]

Support zealot, the art of stacking crit, getting the crit CDR talent and chorus

[vivid hawk]

@royal vortex been trying out crusher, and so far it feels like it has potential, but sometimes the crit build feels inconsistent. At times you plow through everything, other times you are hitting things with a foam stick, kind of hard to explain the feeling

[wintry scroll]

whats the best autogun i can use at the moment?

[north sedge]

play with momentum instead

[vivid hawk]

tried it, felt more consistent, but doesn't seem like it has as much "oomph"

[royal vortex]

damage wise blazing piety doesn't do as well compared to the other 2 keystones

[brisk raft]

Crusher doesn't have much crit potential

[coarse birch]

id try momentum

[royal vortex]

the main draw of it is the whole spamming ults into crowds thing

[coarse birch]

although your probably near unkillable with martyr crusher

now that i think about it

[royal vortex]

momentum does better in that regard because it's both damage and attack speed, which helps take advantage of skullcrusher and whatnot

[coarse birch]

cause you can control melee situations so well + all your damage reduction

[royal vortex]

i should probably explain this more in the guide but while crusher is a weapon with good finesse damage, you get dimishing returns on crit headshot compared to a crit or headshot due to how the boost curve works

so the extra damage from blazing piety is more impactful when you hit a bodyshot

(also doesn't help for cleave that much, it's more of a first-second target damage boost)

[vivid hawk]

I like fire nades, but felt a little pidgeonholed into knives if I wanted max damage

[royal vortex]

yea that's kinda the tradeoff

[coarse birch]

knives path is pretty crazy

[royal vortex]

i picked up knives cuz i wanted to save points since i always take second wind

[coarse birch]

and below immo path is like

[royal vortex]

and then i found that knives are really fun to use

[coarse birch]

really not great

unless im mixing up paths

[north sedge]

you can do immo with momentum crusher

i do

[brisk raft]

Throwing knives do be releasing them endorphins for every sniper kill

[vivid hawk]

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to drop Desperation for the extra 20% infected/unyielding damage

[royal vortex]

depends on playstyle

i brought it for the boss damage then realized i use the push attack enough that desperation would p much always be up

[vivid hawk]

I ended up over using the push attack

[royal vortex]

although the 20% infested/unyielding does apply to guns, so if you had a boss-killing gun like bolter