#zealot-class

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mental coral
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Why is it called warhammer

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🤔

lyric rain
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It's the most based medieval weapon name obvs

mental coral
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But is it tho

lyric rain
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Broad Sword can mean a lot of things
A Pike is a fish
Claymore is, something, I dunno

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WAR HAMMER

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FUCK YEAH

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I mean WAR

and then HAMMER

What's not to understand

mental coral
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Warhammer are a peasants weapon smh

drifting wolf
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it's because warhammer fantasy had an actual warhammer in it that sigmar used, and they also thought it sounded cool

sinful widget
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we have 40000 warhammers now

mental coral
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Also war scythe is more based

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Turning farming equipment into a weapon

drifting wolf
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No

wheat topaz
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This one i rolled yesterday with your guys advice, trying it out its REALLY good. my runs going pretty smooth with it.
can recommend for a versatile build.

tidal berry
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is this a 🧱

placid fiber
frozen glen
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its gonna be 3/4 so not bad

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just replace bloodletter with rampage and w/e perk to flak

placid fiber
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I'm over here to shill you guys the mk 6 knife...

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Okay I am done trying to shill it to you guys

mental coral
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Bleed?

placid fiber
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I have said everything good

mental coral
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If it’s not a bleed knife not interested

tidal berry
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I think it should be just fine

placid fiber
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Hell do a lascerate flesh tearer knife if u want

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idc

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Just like if someone wants to run blast bandit in rorr. Let em, idc

oak cipher
placid fiber
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doesn't the "smh" give it away? lol

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It's Derpy doing what me and him do

oak cipher
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Oh okay. Cause I understand when people have no clew about swords, but I thought that at least warhammers would be like OH WE GET IT
Cause like ARTAS, UTHER

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And if you don't know those names i have bad news...

placid fiber
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I mean it's a hammer that hammers stuff

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I know about arthas and uther lightbringer <.<

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I've played and beaten the wc3 campaign >.>

oak cipher
placid fiber
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Well I would trust a warhammer over a sword vs armor

oak cipher
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I was a lot of things once, but then I got a salary to the knee...

placid fiber
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If I have a sword... I'm gonna have to hold it by the blade vs plate armor... or try to thrust in the gaps

sinful widget
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uhmm, is this suitable for mk12 chainaxe and old revolver?

oak cipher
placid fiber
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ngl the murder stroke sounds sick, tho

placid fiber
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grab the blade for more control over it when trying to thrust the gaps

oak cipher
sinful widget
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i dont actually

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i was thinking about that

oak cipher
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I also always go for bleed on crit, but in all honesty, I am not sure it is all that useful with the eviscerator

placid fiber
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No twbs is sadge

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idc what weapon you use

oak cipher
sinful widget
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thy wrath be swift

placid fiber
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the one above loner

sinful widget
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i forgot about that one

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zamn

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time to kms rethink my build

placid fiber
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twbs

oak cipher
sinful widget
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ye i saw it

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i dont use knife so i didnt even notice twbs

placid fiber
oak cipher
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And how armour works. Not many people these days do, as evident by what we see in movies ---

placid fiber
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since it interests me a bit

oak cipher
placid fiber
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Anyway i'm gonna go watch some youtube

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o7

naive star
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That low Def is dealbreaker?

oak cipher
# naive star That low Def is dealbreaker?

WELL and here we come to the endless discussion of highrolls vs lowrolls.
I would not consider anything bolw 375 stats as good.
But. How much would the push actually cost for you? How much stamina are you going to have at all? If you think that you will be fine with that, than okay, probably not a dealbraker

naive star
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Well, it would be my first ever Crusher, so id get to even try if i like it

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Obviously id keep eyes open for better one eventually if its something that fits me

oak cipher
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In that case, should be fine

naive star
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Anyways, omw logging to buy it

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Was worth it, noticed this too thumbsup_ogryn

naive star
lean lark
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thunderstrike to skullcrushers block eff to maniacs

naive star
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5 short staregryn

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Well, ill be testing that later on tonight and doing that too

native cargo
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become one with the crusher

naive star
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Got the Crusher guide from pinned open now, gotta do wax-on-wax-off sessions with the movesets in VR sim first

wraith helm
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crusher needs thrust

frozen glen
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it needs headtaker and slaughterer and uncanny strike

lost solar
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it needs the discard button

placid fiber
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Don't you guys love it when your wasteland areas are a casual 46° C?

naive star
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Im going by this

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Says Skullcrusher is a must, then its either Hammerblow or Trauma

north sedge
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yep

dense field
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this is literally me btw

north sedge
dense field
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RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT'S DONE

north sedge
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*eventually done

quaint verge
frozen glen
strange kestrel
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My brother asked me for help with his homework so i did

naive star
wraith helm
normal wren
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Whats a good weapon to pair with the crusher?

fiery ingot
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a crusher

normal wren
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Boltgun?

strange kestrel
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Whatever you want

normal wren
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I mean crushers weakness is basically just bosses right

naive star
strange kestrel
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Kinda

normal wren
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At least from my levelling experience

strange kestrel
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If you feel like ur not doing boss dmg run a wep thats good againdt those

fiery ingot
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kant shotty slug builds hammerblow stacks if you fire the dot and swap to your melee

strange kestrel
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Answer your own questions

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What am i lacking what do i feel like i dont do good enough, what can i do to kill bosses faster(in your case).. theres always an answer

normal wren
strange kestrel
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I recommend bolter, mk10 laspistol, revolver

golden anchor
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Laspistol is probably one of the best options for crusher zealot, since it fixes the mobility issue and boss damage while being competent at killing specials

naive star
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Guide suggets Brautos, Infantry Autoguns, Kantrael Shotty and Revolver

golden anchor
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if you run blazing piety zealot then laspistol is cracked too

fiery ingot
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guide also said that its a matter of preference lol

strange kestrel
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Doesnt even have to have blazing piety

golden anchor
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guide maker said he forgot about laspistol but its a good option

normal wren
naive star
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Remember that Fury (F) rush allows you to downgrade enemy armor for ranged fire for couple seconds

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Las Pistol especially good if going crit build

strange kestrel
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I assume you run chastise, its more than enough to melt everything along with laspistol

normal wren
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Gotta make notes, add the crusher to the build list

strange kestrel
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Press f and shoot the weakspot

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GG

golden anchor
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I basically just use laspistol for bosses and specials I can't melee

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crusher mercs crushers just fine

strange kestrel
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Thats what its for

sterile schooner
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Mmm was giving crusher a try, does feel quite safe but also feels less impactful due to being slow to kill. Mk4 chain axe also has some cc against ragers and maulers with the lights having auto revs, and kills much faster. Could just be a skill issue cause I'm more used to the axe vs the crusher tho

naive star
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Just made dumdum firestarter laspistol the otherday, nice with crit builds

fiery ingot
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i dont know how you people can like laspistol

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it feels so underwhelming

strange kestrel
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Youre just more comfortable with the chaxe

normal wren
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I like new new eviscerator

golden anchor
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Ghost and infernus on zealot personally

strange kestrel
golden anchor
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Ghost on laspistol is funny as hell

fiery ingot
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yes

normal wren
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It has the crusher moveset with less stun but a yeetus deletus button

golden anchor
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lit up by a reaper? pull out pistol and ignore them

strange kestrel
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Laspistol is absolutely insane

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I think you think its underwhelming because its overshadowed by the revolver

fiery ingot
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well

golden anchor
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Don't see people running laspistol often but I think its better than revolver tbh

fiery ingot
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cant say you're wrong there

strange kestrel
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Woah

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No

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Nothing is better than revolver

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I wish that was true

normal wren
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Bolter is better than the revolver

golden anchor
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sacrifices a bit of instant special deletion for being more well rounded

strange kestrel
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Its not

normal wren
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It goes thunk thunk

fiery ingot
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no its absolutely not wth

golden anchor
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revolver is ass against bosses

strange kestrel
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Its not

normal wren
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chadgryn grenades

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Flying fast

golden anchor
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we dont got krak grenades lol

normal wren
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Bolter is crack grenades

golden anchor
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true

wraith helm
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Is punishment talent a must for most zealot builds?

strange kestrel
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Im usually very open for opinions but when somebody says x weapon is better than revolver its just not true, not until it gets nerfed

normal wren
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(To be clear im mostly joking)

strange kestrel
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Revolver 2 shots crushers, melts bosses and one shots everything else

golden anchor
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thats fine, because that means laspistol won't get nerfed lol

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sleeper god tier weapon

normal wren
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Will say shitty bolter is better than shitty revolver -someone who tried both while levelling

strange kestrel
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Yes i agree the laspistol is really good but still worse than revolver

wraith helm
strange kestrel
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It didnt get nerfed

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Hand cannon got nerfed

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Which did absolutely nothing because the revolver's base ADM is still overtuned

golden anchor
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Depends on how you play, I deal with crushers in melee exclusively so the carapace on revolver is whatever

fiery ingot
strange kestrel
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Accatran

golden anchor
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if they nerf it all the better, because people should learn how to melee anyways

naive star
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Talking of hand-cannon, too low level?

strange kestrel
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Thats fine

golden anchor
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maybe make them buff some weapon carapace damage when people complain lol

strange kestrel
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Useable

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Buffing everything around one op weapon is bad design

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Just nerf the revolver

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🤷‍♂️

golden anchor
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Yea, then people will say crushers are hard to deal with lol

normal wren
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Theyll gut the revolver

strange kestrel
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Crushers arent hard to deal with

golden anchor
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(not really they're easy, chaos warrios have more jank)

strange kestrel
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Right build and enough skill is enough

wraith helm
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Id be up for it. Id imagine wither the shotgun or heavy las would takes its place as next best gun just for how versatile they are

normal wren
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One crusher osnt a problem

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14 are

strange kestrel
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There are many many tools to deal with crushers, revolver is just the best

golden anchor
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That's just a chaos patrol

normal wren
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Yeah

golden anchor
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standard vt2 shit

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lol

strange kestrel
normal wren
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Happend my first heresy mission

golden anchor
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actually crushers are a bit slower than chaos warriors so its easier

normal wren
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We were doing fine

ashen prairie
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Just throw free kraks at those 14 crushers

fiery ingot
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just make it not have infinite cleave anymore and we'll all be set

normal wren
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And then the chaos control appeared

golden anchor
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and it feels like they rollerskate less too

strange kestrel
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All they need to do is to make it mediocre against armor and reduce its cleave, its a revolver not a bolter

naive star
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I want Chaos Marines

normal wren
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Why not just revert the bolter changes?

final dust
strange kestrel
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Because that would make bolter op again?

normal wren
golden anchor
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mmm

wraith helm
strange kestrel
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Bolter is perfectly balanced rn

golden anchor
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Pinning fire was a thing but the slow draw was fine

normal wren
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Yeah Im sorta joking on buffing it

golden anchor
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Vet Bolter insta reload was probably the main issue

wraith helm
golden anchor
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I use it with knife

normal wren
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Vets use bolter

final dust
fiery ingot
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i use bolter wdym

strange kestrel
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Yeah because people have an attention span of 4 seconds and the revolver is a better bolter

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So

lean lark
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bolter is still good

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revolver isnt a better bolter

golden anchor
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Evisc + bolter Soriritas cosplay build

lean lark
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revolver is what a bolt pistol would be

strange kestrel
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Its not only still good its literally perfectly balanced

golden anchor
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I would buff either the draw time or the reload time, but its not bad overall atm

strange kestrel
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It doesnt need a buff

fiery ingot
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i would nerf the suppresion from when you're getting shot at while ads goddamn that fucks shit

wraith helm
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I rarely see people using it. The ones that do are bad with it or someone is using a weapon that just overshadows the bolter. The swap speed and reload speed is ass on it. The recoil is random sometimes and overall just clunky

strange kestrel
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Suppression is such a stupid mechanic

golden anchor
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throwing knife zealot has a good time with bolter, probably best bolter user

normal wren
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Ive cleaned house with a squad of 4 bolter vets

smoky fiber
# lean lark bolter is still good

What does bolter do well at? I don't like to use it but I have a friend whose DETERMINED to make it work for his vet. So if you have advice I can pass on, would be grateful

strange kestrel
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Armor

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Bosses

golden anchor
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Bulwarks

strange kestrel
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Shredding everything in front of you until it runs out of ammo

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In the magazine*

normal wren
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That also should be able to oneshot all specials (other than crushers, maulers, and bulwarks)

lean lark
fiery ingot
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okay i will say that

normal wren
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Run shredders

fiery ingot
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in the hands of a vet a bolter might outperform a revolver

normal wren
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For nades

strange kestrel
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(The revolver does the same thing but better)

lean lark
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using it for small shooters is a bit hard to do

smoky fiber
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So you'd recommend it as a supplement to a melee builds?

lean lark
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yes

strange kestrel
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I do

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Yes

lean lark
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but rn vet has plasma

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which is broken

normal wren
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Yeah

golden anchor
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Plasma :V

strange kestrel
fiery ingot
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plasma is boring

normal wren
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But the nolter sounds better than the plasma

golden anchor
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fair and balanced™

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nothing wrong with the super soaker

lean lark
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so until they nerf plasma bolter is a good pick though

fiery ingot
strange kestrel
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Plasma is what the bolter is gonna be if they buff the draw time and reload time like everyone suggests

golden anchor
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honestly the only nerf it needs is to make it explode on light spam lol

lean lark
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no

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no it wont

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lmao

strange kestrel
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Yes yes it will

normal wren
lean lark
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draw speed and reload time buffs wouldnt make it have 50 cleave hipfire shots

golden anchor
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bolter doesnt cleave nearly as well as plasma lol

lean lark
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draw speed and reload time doesnt change its effectiveness

golden anchor
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honestly if you buff reload and draw speed

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it would be equal to plasma

lean lark
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nothing would change

wraith helm
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Id be so down with that

golden anchor
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or even slightly worse lol

strange kestrel
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Thats just plasma being stupidly overtuned

smoky fiber
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That's a problem on Zealot, yeah

fiery ingot
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you cant - but you also dont need to ads with plasma to snipe something, unlike bolter

normal wren
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Bolter zealot basically just magdumps it into a special patrol

strange kestrel
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Bolter doesnt need a buff at all its fine as it is

wraith helm
smoky fiber
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Thanks for the advice.

lean lark
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bolter on zealot is purely for armored elite packs, elite packs and bosses

strange kestrel
fiery ingot
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yeah

strange kestrel
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Thank you

golden anchor
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tbh I run bolter just to say fuck you to bulwark phalanxes

normal wren
fiery ingot
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i pair bolter with dclaw

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it fucks good

strange kestrel
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Bolter is cracked its a nice change of pace

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Always see people complain about getting killed because of how long the draw time is- i do just fine in AM 🤷‍♂️

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Bad positioning≠bolter bad

normal wren
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Only time Ive died cuz of pullout/reload times was twins

fiery ingot
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yeah you do need to reeducate yourself if you're a revolver user like me and want to go on to something that is like helbore or a bolter

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no quickdraw for you mf

fiery bloom
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Bad execution makes any build bad. Always be good at piloting your character

lean lark
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revolver is what rashad is

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for zealot

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best way to put it

normal wren
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My favorite zealot secondary is still the kantrael shotgun

golden anchor
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braindead?

steep flame
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hello chat

nimble fiber
stiff mirage
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👍👍👍

strange kestrel
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Kantrael shotgun takes that spot

golden anchor
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Fuck bulwarks

strange kestrel
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Sorry

fiery ingot
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crusher has that spot

stiff mirage
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does kantreal break their shield?

golden anchor
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I see 1 bulwark or 7 crushers, I'm throwing my krak to that bulwark

fiery ingot
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crusher does

strange kestrel
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It goes thru it straight up

golden anchor
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Kantrael fire does go through Bulwark shield

steep flame
stiff mirage
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LMAO

golden anchor
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and anything behind it

stiff mirage
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that rocks wtf

sharp zodiac
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I just stare at them and they die instantly

quaint verge
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Vet bolter can one shot non armored ogryns ScrimboBimblerPajama

golden anchor
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Takes 3-4 fire shots to kill a bulwark, cracked af

strange kestrel
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No it doesnt make them recoil it makes them burn and bleed to death

sharp zodiac
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No need to fact check

quaint verge
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On Weakspot

golden anchor
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you can kill multiple bulwarks with it too

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spicy shit

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ver gud

normal wren
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Yup

fiery ingot
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yeah

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kantrael goated

strange kestrel
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You can burn and bleed a bulwark to death and everything behind it

fiery ingot
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also snipers better than bolter

strange kestrel
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Until it hits the wall

normal wren
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Evisc/kantrael got me through to 30

fiery ingot
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because you dont get cancer when you're being shot at while ads

golden anchor
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No respite+full bore probably better than bleed for it

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bleed doesn't proc through shield

normal wren
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Scattershot

strange kestrel
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Yes

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Scattershot flechette procs bleed and burn thru everything

fading vale
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the bleed only works on the first target hit by a pellet

normal wren
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Still works

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Dots

golden anchor
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I remember running it but the bleed was sort of underwhelming

wraith helm
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So about this punishment talent. Is it needed for most melee zealots

normal wren
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Dots more dots

golden anchor
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nice to have but whatever

strange kestrel
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Still enhances what its for, dot that goes thru bulwark

golden anchor
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doesn't change any shot breakpoints though

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never got it to 2shot bulwark

strange kestrel
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Well you dont 2 shot a bulwark

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You stack burn and bleed

golden anchor
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yea, its 3 shot with bleed or not

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so whatever

fading vale
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it's just not as good as you think cause the bleed only hits what is in front, but it's alright for fire shot spam into elites

normal wren
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Its also nice to soften up ragers

strange kestrel
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Yea

normal wren
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While pulling a patrol

fading vale
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for general use, no respite and a damage/power blessing is always gonna be better

strange kestrel
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Kantrael is my answer to packs of ragers and bulwarks

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For general use i have my melee

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90% of the time

normal wren
golden anchor
fading vale
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scattershot is not good on the kantrael

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no respite is by far the best

normal wren
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No?

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What doesnt work with it

golden anchor
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No respite is very cracked, can approve

fading vale
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nah, scattershot is for lawbringer and agri

golden anchor
strange kestrel
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Kantrael is really only on my builds for what my melee cant deal with, bulwarks and sometimes packs of ragers

fading vale
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scattershot has no effect on the fire shot

wraith helm
normal wren
golden anchor
wraith helm
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Picking up the talent?

golden anchor
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not really, you can spend it elsewhere

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headshots with rashad stagger ragers already

fading vale
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punishment is only solid for like, hsword, evis, claw

wraith helm
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Ok, that's what I was asking.

olive raven
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even then it’s usually only a crit build thing

golden anchor
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punishment is pretty funny on crusher too

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more impact

olive raven
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Typically I’ll take sustained assault over punishment

olive raven
strange kestrel
golden anchor
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I run piety build on mine so its free

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lol

strange kestrel
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Sustained assault i mean

fading vale
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yeah if you have piety then you have punishment so

olive raven
strange kestrel
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Funny enough the weapons that get the most mileage out of a blazing piety build are the ones who benefit the most from punishment as well

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So

golden anchor
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I want to praise the emperor with my dash every 5 seconds

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(and keep 100% uptime on attack speed)

blissful sinew
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just 5?

sharp zodiac
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Be like me and always praise him

fading vale
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maybe they will finally nerf/rework crit CDR in the next patch pepecopium

sharp zodiac
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Copium hopium

golden anchor
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Considering the average playerbase that ain;t gonna happen

wraith helm
sharp zodiac
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The year 3024

meager turret
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The crit cooldown screaming zealot is a lot of fun

golden anchor
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its not that busted compared to melee vet running CDR shout lol

fading vale
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well that obviously needs to go too

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and gunlugger CDR

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stop giving everyone so much damn free CDR

golden anchor
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Everyone has CDR so it's part of the design at this point lol

fading vale
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with crazy numbers just for playing and not doing anything special

golden anchor
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wanting it to change is probably copium at this point

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but CDR scales with difficulty, its whatever on lower difficulties

sharp zodiac
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Could be something more orientated besides just "yeah here's some recution because you got a lot of Crits"

golden anchor
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it only becomes dumb on aurics and maelstroms because of extra spawns

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Zealot CDR a bit different though

fading vale
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I spam a cleave weapon light and no longer have cooldowns, woweee

golden anchor
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Vet, Ogryn, and Psyker sort of have to work for theirs

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sort of but not really if you're competent

fading vale
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it just invalidates abilities having cooldowns in the first place

golden anchor
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I consider it a reward for doing what you're supposed to do

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if you're bad at tagging specials then you get a normal cooldown

blissful sinew
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is there a cleave weapon light with a good finesse modifier?

golden anchor
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Zealot CDR though, yea its just unga bunga with a fast weapon

fading vale
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any decent player should have tons of elite and special kills

fading vale
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most important on the parry

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and technically I guess crusher push attack

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and kind of the new knife but it only has 6.5 cleave so

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anyways finesse is not important on cleave targets cause the primary boost is on the first target, not the cleave targets

spiral lance
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What's the general consensus on which heavy eviscerator is better?

golden anchor
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MK15 has ease of use and is more intuitive

fading vale
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people seem to prefer the new one and IIRC it's heavies kill more stuff

golden anchor
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Some people say mk2 is better but I don't see it

spiral lance
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I'm used to the mk 2

fading vale
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you don't have to think about how to use the new one at all, lights for cleave and heavies for single target

golden anchor
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Slightly better horde clear?

fading vale
meager turret
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I already cut down hordes like butter with the mk15

golden anchor
#

Yea, but it does less boss dmg

#

and carapace

#

so I think for the most part mk15>mk2

violet hornet
#

Doesn't mk 15 have a 6 target cleave cap where the mk 2 is like 16?

golden anchor
#

mk 15 is 4 target cap on lights

#

4 targets damaged*

fading vale
#

mk15 lights have a 4 cleave damage target cap

golden anchor
#

mk 15 can build for guaranteed crusher one shots with bloodthirsty chains too

fading vale
#

mk2 heavy does not have a cap but still it's not like it's doing that much damage to the extra targets

violet hornet
#

I think the 6 / 16 numbers are comparing ones with savage sweep but I haven't used mk 15 much

golden anchor
#

its strong and easy to use as long as you have some source of attack speed

#

chastise/martyrdom/momentum

fading vale
#

+cleave does not change the cleave damage target cap

violet hornet
violet hornet
brazen umbra
#

this game stores save data on servers right?

fading vale
#

yes

brazen umbra
#

cool. my hard drive got fucked recently

spiral lance
#

So in the end what is actually the practical difference between the mk 2 and the mk 15?

fading vale
#

mk15 is brainless and does more damage on heavies

golden anchor
#

Mk15 is probably just superior lol

fading vale
#

no need to think about combos for any reason

golden anchor
#

ease of use is an important factor

spiral lance
#

Yeah, but I already know how to use the mk 2

golden anchor
#

Has an easier time killing bulwarks because the heavy mk2 revs are fucking horizontal

#

lol

violet hornet
fading vale
#

can the mk2 ever one shot crushers without chastise?

golden anchor
#

I don't think so

#

because you have to aim center mass for max damage

#

aiming for head makes the last hit not a headshot zzz

#

good design

sharp zodiac
#

That's dumb

fading vale
#

oh also mk15 you are free to run whatever second blessing, which I suppose you could do on mk2 but it's more questionable

sharp zodiac
#

But also explains a lot in terms of fs logic

spiral lance
golden anchor
#

Only thing I can think of is if you like the moveset of mk2, or really like hordeclear slightly faster

#

Otherwise, mk15 is probably objectively better

whole vapor
#

I love the mk15 for funny cdr builds and non-stop yelling

blissful sinew
#

non-stop whispering is more fun

fading vale
#

loner hiding in the corner

golden anchor
#

Mk15 having shred so you don't have to run piety for crit CDR is pretty great though

#

Stack chastise with martyrdom or momentum and mow some lawns

blissful sinew
#

i wish they would just remove loner and replace it with something not so fucking lame

#

actual dead talent point

fading vale
#

I wish I could save points taking second wind without running throwing knives

golden anchor
#

throwing knives are pretty nice though

fading vale
#

eh I hate them

frosty herald
#

Seems like fatshark came back from vacatiob

golden anchor
#

its only been 5 days

#

what do you mean

rough galleon
#

Being able to at least opt out and have base stumms if you want would be nice

frosty herald
#

Influx of tweets and hotfix

sharp zodiac
#

Kinda wish I could hold them out as an alt for them similar to grenades where you can underhand throw them

golden anchor
#

oh shit

#

wait i got baited

#

the link was 17 days ago

whole vapor
blissful sinew
#

yeah idk why they linked that post again this morning

#

those are some old changes

frosty herald
#

Probs catching up

golden anchor
#

I wish scavenger was baked into coherency though

#

having it and not having it is a pretty significant difference

#

or just delete scavenger so you can balance around not having it

frosty herald
#

Replace scavenger with ammo crate lmao

golden anchor
#

spawn with an ammocrate

#

that'd be pretty ok lol

frosty herald
#

Nah i meant field improv

sharp zodiac
#

The one where you replenish grenades too?

golden anchor
#

That'd be pretty alright, but field improve getting cucked by grims should be addressed lol

frosty herald
#

Tbh no one is using grims in damnation+

golden anchor
#

I grab it occasionally to try and get someone else killed lol

#

at least in aurics

ornate bone
#

Delete scavenger and idfk give me uhhhhh idk

sharp zodiac
#

Grims are equivalent to the homeless guy standing next to you at a stop ligjt

#

You don't want to look at him

#

But he's still there

ornate bone
#

5% specialist aura uwu

frosty herald
#

Im gonna use bear spray on grims

#

And people that pick them up

golden anchor
#

Honestly the biggest meme is taking them and throwing them away in the extraction lol

sharp zodiac
#

I did that once

#

Accidentally

#

Didn't tell anyone

spiral lance
#

managed to scrounge this together, think it'll do?

blissful sinew
#

delete loner and give 1% chance to do Cheer line on kill aura

ornate bone
#

Based

ashen prairie
#

our bolter is basicly a space marine bolt pistol

sharp zodiac
#

Loner more like

Bo- wait no

#

Borner

#

Yeah that's better

golden anchor
frosty herald
#

Hehe

#

Bonar!!!!

#

😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

solar gorge
#

take bloodthristy and +cara

#

for the funny crusher 1 shot setup

golden anchor
#

oh yea, there's that option too

sharp zodiac
frosty herald
native cargo
golden anchor
#

Good ole boondocks

#

shoutouts to the uncle ruckus ogryns running around

#

Praise be to the white god emperor

hushed agate
sharp zodiac
#

Praise thah whyte god emprah

steel agate
azure mortar
bleak crystal
#

So… what build should I go for if I was to do the hard mode orthus offensive?

blazing fossil
#

chorus with beacon

bleak crystal
#

Beacon’s the corruption res?

blazing fossil
#

yea for people that like to eat bombs

bleak crystal
#

And what’s chorus?

blazing fossil
#

the middle ability that gives toughness and breathing room

#

use that when a pack of ragers decide they want to have fun with your veteran

bleak crystal
#

Ok…

frank night
#

god i wanna be unconcious so bad

bleak crystal
#

Which ability modified?

#

Modifier*

blazing fossil
#

either are good, i like the damage reduction

north sedge
#

you dont have to play chorus, depends on group

#

Corruption aura is nice though

covert sonnet
#

what do we think of this? I'm only lvl 26 rn, so I'm missing a few, but any reccommendations on what to drop and what to take?

olive raven
#

dont take modifiers on chorus tbh

mental coral
#

with chaxe

bleak crystal
#

What about the keystone?

sharp zodiac
covert sonnet
#

d claw 4 and revolver

frank night
#

thatb

olive raven
#

aight so

frank night
#

the first hurdle

#

you fell

bleak crystal
#

@blazing fossil

blazing fossil
steel agate
bleak crystal
#

I’m thinking the devil’s claw

#

I prefer parrying

steel agate
#

I can recommend devils claw I rock it on my vet to deal with ragers and monstrosities

blazing fossil
#

dclaw I think is best with piety?

olive raven
#

DClaw can work with any keystone

#

Its dclaw.

verbal thunder
#

Good set

bleak crystal
#

And which one.

#

Left or right

verbal thunder
#

Not sure I recommend momentum as a keystone, but you have most of the really important perks clicked in that build

olive raven
#

Momentum is goated lol

verbal thunder
#

But muh crit or my saltzpyre

olive raven
#

Movement buffs + damage

steel agate
#

I like how momentum feels imo, makes u move more if u weren’t already dodge maxing

olive raven
#

and also crit CDR is absolutely braindead

verbal thunder
#

Ey, enjoy what you enjoy!

covert sonnet
#

It's between martyr and momentum for me, I just respecced this to a momentum

bleak crystal
#

Which keystone modifier? Left side or right side @blazing fossil

verbal thunder
#

Love me some matyr

olive raven
#

and i do realize i dropped uh duelist so

steel agate
olive raven
#

you could do uh

verbal thunder
#

We Zel bro

#

Slish slash get my cash

olive raven
#

Swift to Backstab CDR then drop the second chastise charge and grab duelist

#

but its a w/e

#

but yea it is a finesse weapon so uh

#

could drop the 25% added to ranged

#

Given revolver is already cracked

#

this is sorta improved

covert sonnet
#

what about the left keystone mod? is it not great?

verbal thunder
#

Immolate grenade imo are better than stuns, also, but stuns are still decent good

olive raven
#

not great

#

plus you already have

#

what fuckin

#

15% toughness on heavy kill

#

2.5% toughness per second in melee

covert sonnet
#

fair

olive raven
#

15% toughness on dodge

#

so lets just call it

#

30% toughness a second

sharp zodiac
olive raven
#

for shits n gigs

#

and you sustained DPS is uh

sharp zodiac
#

Ungrateful neemnoominoomnia

covert sonnet
#

I grabbed all that you grabbed, and I liked the sound of having duelist at the cost of a charge, it sounds like the cdr will cover most of the downside

olive raven
#

20% dmg from momentum, +25% from disdain, +25% from sustained, +50% weakspot, +50% crit

olive raven
frank night
olive raven
#

albeit that was an immo build so

olive raven
#

I didnt have the even more insane toughness regen

#

@sharp zodiac what kinda iced tea should i buy from the store

#

i was thinkin thai tea

sharp zodiac
#

Wouldn't hurt

covert sonnet
#

thai tea is so good

frank night
#

do not take food recommendations from this person

lean lark
#

you ask the french for help?

#

you know they eat maggot filled cheese and snails

olive raven
#

better than asking your mayonaisse loving ass

lean lark
#

"mayonnaise loving" = asking why you didnt put mayo in a burger

sharp zodiac
north sedge
lean lark
#

wtf

frozen glen
#

luna cant eat anything that wasnt murdered

olive raven
#

also the maggot cheese is pre decent

lean lark
#

bro you gotta spoiler that dough

fleet zealot
faint sphinx
#

There is also a really good blueberry iced tea. I forget the brand off the top of my head.

naive star
#

First game with Crusher, i kept bonking people down and moving on, then noticing they stand up and didnt die yet

olive raven
#

the trick is

#

Bonk them, hit them on the ground

#

Repeat

frank night
#

I know MULTIPLE br*toids

sharp zodiac
#

A lot of people ask me for food tips for some reason

#

Twitter wise

#

Even though I eat the exact same food everyday

olive raven
#

i only ask luna

#

if i should get

#

what i already want

#

like im gonna go buy like

#

3 gallons of tea

frank night
#

the difference is that when you order

frozen glen
#

french means u have a refined palate and french kiss all of ur food to savor the complex flavors

frank night
#

you receive food

#

when the french orders

#

they recieve fries and drink

sharp zodiac
sharp zodiac
#

HOW DO YOU FORGET THE BURGER

#

I still think the guy ate it

frank night
#

it's like something out of a sitcom

#

after a whole episode of depressing unfortunate events

royal vortex
#

i ate it

frank night
#

the protagonist sits down

royal vortex
#

planned sabotage

frank night
#

and the delivery guy forgets the burger

frank night
faint sphinx
royal vortex
#

i just like the spectre ok she's cute

#

i am not turning into mal

frozen glen
#

yea u are

frank night
#

sure u arnt

sharp zodiac
#

But it wouldn't hurt to try it

frank night
#

back to the femboy days

drowsy jackal
#

hamburger meat on a pizza sounds good tbh

royal vortex
frank night
#

i was not aware this was a Nato moment™

royal vortex
#

all moments are Nato moments™️

sharp zodiac
#

Nato does rhyme with josho

frozen glen
#

natto gohan

native cargo
#

Can I advertise stuff on it

royal vortex
#

what day is it

#

no

frozen glen
#

it's slay day

#

for the princess

native cargo
#

If you had a forehead calendar you would know the day

sharp zodiac
#

Let the rat do it it'll be funny

mental coral
#

what is slay the princess anyways

sharp zodiac
#

Man im hungry again ima ponder

native cargo
drowsy jackal
native cargo
royal vortex
#

possible involving the murder of women

sharp zodiac
#

Probably gonna head to a seafood restaurant

#

Maybe order something other than a burger this time

frank night
#

make sure u remind them about the fish

mental coral
#

ive seen it recently around reddit n stuff but dunno what the premise is

lean lark
#

its quirky 4th wall break game with woman

#

or something

#

super deep and philosophical...

frosty herald
#

Its uhh indie game

frozen glen
#

girlboss tries to girlboss all over u

frank night
#

It's the stanley parable with you dying a lot

frozen glen
#

there he goes

royal vortex
#

stalker

frozen glen
#

trying to find the other princess form to pfp

frank night
#

I've got to nuke you now redverse

#

I was reminded nato exists

frank night
#

die

frosty herald
#

Josho loves ashley and leyley

frank night
#

explode

royal vortex
frozen glen
#

nato doesnt exist

frank night
#

u WISH

frozen glen
#

theyve been disbanded

#

everyone gets their nukes back

frank night
#

nuh uh * (*pending 2024 usa elections monka s)

frozen glen
#

its time for war

nimble fiber
frank night
#

40

steel agate
#

40k even?

royal vortex
#

we couldnt afford that many

sharp zodiac
nimble fiber
#

could we afford bread tho?

sharp zodiac
#

Every restaurant I go to it's burger

frozen glen
#

make ur own food

#

lazy ass

frank night
#

you're going to a seafood place

#

for a burger

lean lark
#

you're talking to a britishman

steel agate
#

Is it at least a fish burger?

blazing fossil
#

a seafood burger

lean lark
#

he can tell you which fish and chips variant tastes best

north sedge
#

Fish and chips is one of the few good English foods

frank night
frozen glen
#

along with sausage rolls jellied eel and heinz canned beans

frank night
#

redverse is taking my oxygen again

#

.

royal vortex
#

keanu reeves quote

frank night
lean lark
#

look at this this way

sharp zodiac
royal vortex
#

why did you make this

lean lark
#

british people dont deal with this

frozen glen
#

taking back all the oxygen u stole from ur colonies

lean lark
#

so

royal vortex
#

awfully rude

frank night
sharp zodiac
#

With a drink

frank night
#

are you sure you're actually going to get

#

burger

#

you have been betrayed before

sharp zodiac
#

Yes, if there's a burger I'm getting it

#

And I'm certain

royal vortex
frank night
#

is the burger in the room with us

sharp zodiac
#

Not yet

frosty herald
frozen glen
#

we need to destroy all the countries adjacent to france right now

faint cape
#

destroy france got it

north sedge
#

"I'll take a number 3, hold the burger" "so fries and a drink?" "No i want the combo, just hold the burger "

sharp zodiac
#

What the guy heard somehow onna text message apparently

faint sphinx
craggy mesa
sharp zodiac
#

I left the restaurant

#

Didn't have anything I wanted

fading vale
#

what kind of restaurant

sharp zodiac
#

Seafood

north sedge
#

i figured if you saw food you'd eat it

royal vortex
#

honse

fleet zealot
#

i'm hella craving sushi and it's been this way for 2 weeks but I dont want to admit defeat to my body

north sedge
#

stan running to get brain freeze from a smoothie

ornate bone
#

shushi

solar gorge
#

Same but with breathing tbh

fading vale
#

as he dribbles it onto his pillow

north sedge
#

i cannot wait until they add another map with a train

#

for the ensuing stanisms

fading vale
#

but what if they add a map with a house

frank night
#

FOR A BURGER

solar gorge
#

fatshark confirmed that there will be no more maps added to darktide until darktide 2 comes out

#

the latter will include 1 more map on throneside

open pollen
#

But will it have a TRAIN or a HOUSE in it?

north sedge
#

yea who cares about a dumb fatshark joke, the meat here is stan being train blind

craggy mesa
#

Well, expensive, but healthy.

solar gorge
#

anyone runs BAG's

#

they all feel like dogshit to me

lean lark
#

idk brautos are pretty good (i only use the agri)

solar gorge
#

That's the one I tried

lean lark
#

what were its perks and blessings

#

and stat spreadage

solar gorge
#

I think it was the 2 powerblessings

#

forgo

lean lark
#

first target is a mult

#

and the attack display counts in first target

craggy mesa
#

Oh

lean lark
solar gorge
#

ik

lean lark
#

its more of a mid-range shooting option

#

dont use the braced just hipfire

solar gorge
#

but when i'm that close i might aswell just run to the enemy and maul them to death

lean lark
#

with that logic since you can easily run up to every enemy as zealot why even use a gun

#

there's cases where using your gun is better than melee

solar gorge
#

for the stuff that's really far

lean lark
#

yes, you can kill that one trapper in the middle of the horde with melee, just get through the 4 bulwarks 4 crushers and horde between

sharp zodiac
#

Got Wendy's instead

lean lark
#

or you get the agri brauto and shoot at the head (it cleaves trash) and hit the trapper

#

without risking much

solar gorge
#

seems like a thing done better by revol

lean lark
#

its just an example

solar gorge
#

i just don't see the strength of bag asides from mowing down a rager pack idk

#

but then again

lean lark
#

its good for armored elite packs (flak)

solar gorge
#

why not melee them

lean lark
#

and can do decently vs cara while chastised

#

but that applies to every gun on zealot

fading vale
#

cause a brauto is going to kill things faster than most melee weapons and you can use it while gap closing

fleet zealot
#

agri brauto is just a generalist tool in the hands of a zealot

solar gorge
#

i'd rather not give up the long range potential

fleet zealot
#

you don't

#

just tapfire

versed atlas
#

Are crushers and maulers bugged currently? I keep getting hit through dodge even when I'm not close to them at all

fleet zealot
#

they have a much longer reach than what it looks like

solar gorge
fading vale
#

dodge later

fleet zealot
versed atlas
#

Dodging to the side always

fading vale
#

you are likely dodging too soon and getting tracked through it

north sedge
#

dodge durango

#

crusher overheads are stubbier than they seem actually

balmy kelp
#

Braced is both more DPS and more ammo, but if you're only ever pulling out ranged for specials then yeah you can get away with a Laspistol or Revolver

solar gorge
#

just don't see the point

balmy kelp
#

I just told you the point. DPS and ammo. Those are useful things.

sharp zodiac
#

The burger is in fact here this time

fading vale
#

I mean if you have a survivalist vet especially you can take a brauto and literally hold W and m1 the whole game and everything dies

heavy arch
#

🍔 turtlevore

fading vale
#

I don't see what's not to get

heavy arch
#

u dont understand 5% more dmg = bigger number

sharp zodiac
#

Pretty good stuff

fading vale
#

baconator time

solar gorge
#

i don't know why i would want to just shoot with zealot

fading vale
#

that's not the point....

native cargo
#

I wanna devour

#

that

#

burger

lean lark
solar gorge
#

pedantism incoming

balmy kelp
native cargo
native cargo
#

Btw today I got zero summed by the fucking game

lean lark
#

why do you use melee on vet

heavy arch
#

i was responding to a comment on not taking survivalist

lean lark
#

why would you want to use melee on vet when you can just gun everything

native cargo
#

I got downed by a poxburster, the game killed me even though I had 2 wounds, and I didn't see my body anywhere

#

like

lean lark
#

why would you want to use melee or ranged when you can assail on psyker or brainburst

heavy arch
#

just trauma tbh

fleet zealot
#

brautos has better blessings too compared to inf

lean lark
#

because things have their reasons to be used

native cargo
#

I think the way I died just fucking

#

made the game zero sum me

solar gorge
fleet zealot
#

fire frenzy deathspitter is insane ramping combo

spare dome
balmy kelp
solar gorge
#

"just"

#

as in only shooting

#

and nothing else

lean lark
#

you're completely missing the point of what he meant

fleet zealot
#

infantry is easier to use (as a modern fps gun) and good for consistent long range engagements

#

but brauto is just insane

#

better base stats, better blessings

lean lark
#

just like with vet, you can use your ranged for everything but you can also use your melee for certain things

#

so with zealot, you can use your melee for everything but you can also use your ranged for certain things

heavy arch
#

p sword works on everything too tho

lean lark
#

agri brauto covers 99% of those things

ripe quest
fleet zealot
#

lambda is not worth engaging

fading vale
native cargo
#

I only pull out the kant to flex on vets with my sick sniping skills (I don't aim I just let the pellets do the work)

spare dome
solar gorge
balmy kelp
#

Honestly I wish they'd carve out more distinct roles for Zealot ranged options. Like it'd honestly be okay if Shotguns couldn't snipe snipers, but maybe Shotties are absolutely devastating against maniac armor (Mutant/Rager) to give them a more unique role

solar gorge
#

but I didn't enjoy using it at all

sharp zodiac
#

Oh my god they even held the mayo I'm going to make love to that woman who got my food

native cargo
#

There are other valid ranged options i just love the idea of a Preacher with a shotty

#

Ready to fuck over daemons

balmy kelp
#

In most games you wouldn't try to outsnipe a sniper with a shotgun. You'd just know the damage/stagger at that range would make it a waste of time. And that's fine as long as the shotgun has some other role it clearly does better than the other options.

Basically I dislike that Revolver/Laspistol/Auto/Las/Shotgun/Brauto and probably some I forgot are ALL perfectly fine at killing basically all specials (with the possible exception of some being very wasteful ammo-wise if shot against mutants).

It'd be better if each of those guns really had its own niche. Some are almost there, with Laspistol critting, Revolver armor-piercing, Shotgun stagger. They just need to feel a bit more distinct than they do now.

The aesthetic of a preacher with a shotty would remain either way. (ie nobody's talking about making shotgun a bad weapon, only to give it a distinct role.)

sharp zodiac
azure mortar
#

gud food

north sedge
#

shotguns in this game more accurately represent actual shotguns, hilariously

native cargo
#

Food gud

solar gorge
#

any videogame shotgun with a tight spread is appreciated

native cargo
sharp zodiac
#

Ik

#

You won't go away

#

And your kin

native cargo
#

I will never

#

Your home is important to the underempire

sharp zodiac
#

Will you at least clean up?

frank night
sharp zodiac
#

God I feel great

#

Gonna miss this

heavy arch
#

inshallah

azure mortar
#

tis a shame really

heavy arch
#

ive spent 4 mill still no rampage 4

obtuse solstice
#

what blessings for evi 15?

sharp zodiac
#

Rampage then Persian preference

#

Personal*

native cargo
sharp zodiac
#

They killed my nephew

native cargo
#

According to red savage sweep is pretty good just for the cleave on 3 maulers

native cargo
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Saw him playing with it and he was actually doing quite well

craggy mesa
azure mortar
ember yew
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and still gonna do it from time to time

native cargo
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Rats are lovely except those of rival clans they get the catwiggle

bleak crystal
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Hhhh ok I’m giving the new eviscerator sword a try for orthus hard

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Anything I need to change talent wise?

native cargo
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Tbh the one place the corruption coherency node in the center would have a valid use is on twins hard mode

lean lark
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and maybe burster wave