#zealot-class
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Its a short horror game where you play the Michael Jordan of Gastroenterologists
One of the cool parts about Thammer is that you can 1 shot or chunk stuff. Thunderous doesn't help you do that, it strictly gets better as the number of hits to kill something gets higher, and it's not even that much damage for stuff like Unyielding.
Surprisingly good for the blue subject matter
Not enough katana
but if u rev up the hammer the saw ticks apply multiple stacks of thunderous
i have a katana clip but its too long i need to edit it
The layers of this joke span multitudes.
A fine way to look at it. The way I play is a bit different since I don't got for 1 taps on crushers.
and theres only one actual katana clip its mostly just me running at people with my katana out and then shooting them
Like a true samurai gunman
The catchy as hell tune master-minded and sung(lead and backing) by Greg Weber, who also voiced ZAN in-game.
Intimidation tech
Make em think your going in close. Then shoot them. Half the time it works 100% of the time.
here lemme see
Works better in Fistful of Frags, a different cowboy game, but only because people rely too much on kicking.
i love fistful of frags
why can ogryn stagger monstrosities with a fucking slap of the hand while a two handed crusher can't
I made some maps for that gane. Pass the whiskey!
The chastise zealot whenever there's a poxwalker within a square mile
because ogryn is a weak class that needs buffs
and needs more damage tbh

ogryns should get their own ammo aura too
but it triggers on any kill
and replenishes all the ammo for the team
They're the Ogryns, gotta love them!
To make up for this buff, they should also get a literal lobotomy.
Everytime they see someone shoot a gun they get jealous and are given more ammo as an apology
The recoil also makes them claustrophobic
I wonder if the ogryn favortism is a byproduct of so many oggie mains also being testers?

Shame we're all crazed psycho degenerates. Otherwise we'd have more zealot main testers... I think.
most hated class by fatshark ?
Hmmm. Psyker?
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Used to be Vet
But now, Psyker has weakest tree
uh.
ew non-zealot talent tree
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Going by talent tree alone, I say we are second favorite
Psyker is fucked up strong
Aye. Maybe thats why their tree is wimpy
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Also. They only have 4 magic sticks. Which seems low for a space wizard.
But I am not a psyker main so maybe they are happy with meager number of sticks
what are you talking about, they have lot of magic sticks
some just happen to shoot bullets
it really isnt
They have 20ish talent nodes. We have 40ish
(Talent nodes being blue ones)
Less options
I figured zealot was first favorite, who you figure takes that?
Ogryn. But they are both good trees
tried it out. its actually really good. i wonder though if its worth on damn maelstrom since you meet so many big bois. especially recently with the scab only theme going on
The tree of mutants are not to be praised for they offend the God-Emperor's chosen human design
Zealot feels more diversified but at the same time hardly any bad "bloat" talents ๐ค I don't know ogryn tree as well as zealot tree though
i find the psyker tree p boring. but there's a lot about the class i just do not like
Trees don't look like humans though.
They're trees mistah Rat.
Them trees are mutants
Don't trust the trees
You don't agree that those trees are rather Mutant-Like? 
They are weird. What trees have branches what which merge back in on themselves
anyone else feel really underwhelmed by the new eviscerator? it feels just slow enough to be a pain to use
Everyone hates rev it up but me? I have a need for speed.
Otherwise yar, bit underwhelming. But, I could also just be bad.
Aw shucks
+carapace doesn't net you anything huge unless you have bloodthirsty for the crusher one shots
yea on eviscerator i guess its not worth it really
perfect strike is generally also pretty awful on the new eviscerator, shittier activation condition with roughly equal rewards compared to wrath/savage sweep
I do find it weird when a weapon has two blessings that do the same thing slightly differently.
rampage + bloodthirsty/shred/savage sweep/wrath is the generally preferred setup
what about my old vanilla eviscerator? is the blessings bad on that? i feel like more bleed is good but idk
bloodletter isn't really netting u much worthwhile here. it's a cleave blessing but the rev heavy is already doing a lot of horde damage
bloodthirsty likewise isn't great on old eviscerator either, only good on the new one for some one-shot breakpoints
ah damn i knew it could've been better
Do you still just go savage + rampage on old evi?
Meme team idea: 3 bleed zealots and one protector ogryn with TDR on bleed proxy.
The goal of the zealots is to buzz around the ogryn and give them more TDR buffs with relic
That'd be quite silly, no?
crusher cleave tho
having multiple bleed sucks cause only one person gets to be the owner
we have filler junk
same with any dot
I like a lot of our filler junk wym?
Psyker has room to expand on width without hurting length. Needs more G I R T H
less options is
not equal to weak
They have some of the best toughness regen, most stamina via kinetic deflector, guaranteed crits, etc
Ah, I think you misunderstand me. I judge the strength of a tree by its diversity. Psyker has lowest level of diversity, therefor it is the weakest tree. The nodes themselves are strong, the class is strong, the tree is weak. Not enough branches. Enemic tree.
I want more silly/fun nodes. Like movement speed on peril gain or something.
Let me explode for free once in a while.
That kind of stuff.
Prisoners of war?
Ah. I suppose it might. But twas just an example.
Maybe it could replace the down with a debuff. But I don't want to speculate in that. I just want more options in general.
That would be an actually useful case for locking certain choices in the tree
You can take shriek and manually vent, or you can take some kind of psyker holy revenant where you blow up on enemies for free and enter a cooldown
But not have both at the same time
Honestly i kind of avoid red nodes. I prefer consistent buffs
Warp Battery has CDR
Also pow doesnt do enough damage to be useful
Aye, as far as I know, red nodes are ability modifiers that work for any combat ability
As anyone who has gone for that one penance knows
To be honest, I think that's the biggest problem
Being able to buff PoW before blowing yer load would be a cool meta-mechanic.
Gain stacks. Detonate
I wouldnt let me team suffer like that. Now that i have my penance at least 
It's not even that you can accidentally game end yourself, but you accidentally trigger an incredibly long animation that doesn't actually have any payoff
brickt?
not brick
ooh better result this time, hmm what should i change here
Do 10x the damage at max stacks, downside is: you harm your team as well
What weap
Would also be interesting to see some clever ways of canceling POW
swap*
wat da hell
bro got 4/4 blessings
I would readily alt+f4 so fucking fast
Currently you explode if you get disabled while in the animation
So you can get put in a situation where you might not even have the chance to shriek
Circlejerk would go from hating knife zealots to suicide psykers
It's rare, but not like you can do anything while locked, so you can't avoid disablers
could do this to give it that extra, but those perks? what do you think?
dont worry we already hate smite psykers
leave as is
what should i change?
how come? surely t4 would be better then t3 ?
hmmm alright ill leave it for now
what blessings do I want on a kant shotgun?
@lusty turtle want some soup?
Changing perks gives you room to change them later if they dont feel right
its a nominal difference
perks tbh
its not the greatest roll ever
but the blessings work
https://gyazo.com/8b5e07adb6e835dac835f27b60d5404f
why does this sword slaps? got it as random reward and made a few runs with it and it slaps unexpectedly hard even with trash perks, are the 2 blessings that good for this?
wich blessing should i take
flak and what?
No respite is kind of a big deal on shotgun
Could just leave it as is and keep the mod slots for future proofing.
Deathblow applies first target to 4 enemies instead of 2
yea i can see now you are right about that, with a good build this thing can demolish monstrosities :p
true thats a good point
yea fire frenzy/deathspitter can work tho
what would be the dream sword? and which heavy is the better?
The IX's H2 and H3 are an exception.
HS6, Deathblow + Headtaker, Flak + Maniac
Leux, what perks am I taking on this shotgun?
The VII and VI are essentially the same Hsword just with different combos, they have light advantages over eachother. The IX trades elite damage for a better fodder and bruiser damage profile.
is the deathblow interaction a bug?
no
what's the deathblow interaction?
Its trench time.
the description for it is just total poopoo
fatshark hides all the good shit beyond a layer of stupid tooltips
unyielding/cara/maniac/flak
noted
Psionic self destruct would be like. Two nodes. First node makes POW not kill you outright, only dealing reduced damage and/or a self debuff instead. Second node increases power of PoW with each stack. Gain stacks from killing elites or something. Maybe even have node that gives allies a buff when you pop.
Gosh darnit I didn't want to speculate on this!

bwomp bwomp
does anyone have a build for the new heavy las pistol. I have a good roll but i hate it compared to the old heavy las pistol
Isn't the new one like, the same but with recoil?
its really slow
Ah. Right. Slow, and with recoil.
yea
HARK KIN
But anyways yeah, I like my trees wide and girthy. Psyker trees a skinny birch.
YE OL LASPISTOLE
switch carapace to flak or leave it alone and use it with FOtF
Switch it to flak
You lucky I ruined mine by running crit chance for Infernus proc ๐
yea i did that to one too
Stuck with infested+crit chance, dumdum+Infernus on a perfect
ouch
Are there any weapons that don't meta flak?
what kind of blessing is good on this for a zealot ? I feel like every shotgun blessing suck
Guns, that is.
If only between the eyes was that blessing that gives ranged immunity on crit hit/kill
I've noticed it's nearly no damage bonus
It is nice to get a visual of how much your ranged crits but that's as far as it's useful in my case
uh sometimes people don't take it on bolter I guess but otherwise..... hard to think of anything
basically always take dumdum and then whatever
Anyone have a general idea of what stats I should be looking for on a mk5 evis and a revolver
No respite doesn't tell you it stacks, it is very good
Like 80+ damage, 70+ shredder, stuff like that
zarona is surgical/hand cannon and flak maniac
Flak+maniac on both, dumdum+surgical on revolver
All revolver stats as high as possible leaving mobility lowest
Chainsword is all highest other than defence/mobility
you mean hand cannon
dumdum handcannon
oh
yeah no respite is just the best shotgun blessing
it stacks up to 7 times
giving you potentially 140% more damage on a shot on a staggered enemy
usually it will be around 3 stacks on the second shot I think
unless there is another source of stagger
Shame it got capped, dead weapon now ๐
just regular damnation but good roll evis makes all the difference, have to switch of chorus and go all in on chastise
chastise is just so good
A fun interaction is to stun grenade with a NR Shotgun since you will get 5+ stacks on every enemy there
wtf is wrong with people
lol whats wrong with tag on middle mouse button?
I hate that shit
middle mouse is fine
some people just spam the shit out of it
not scroll wheel
i bind tag to side mouse button because i dont want to accidentally tag to another target when i left click to attack
i love that im asking nicely. and im just told like i killed his baby

dude I gotta try hooking up my g502 and using an air can to spam ping a patrol and see how fast I get kicked
I almost always tag whatever I'm shooting just to see the head outline
unless they are like, close enough
Elite packs, disablers and bursters
constantly tagging is fine
it's the tag spam tho
when theres like 6 and each one is tagged every second ding ding ding idn gdngding
or some random fucking sniper
i played with a vet with focus yesterday that would tag spam, do they know you lose stacks doing that?
retag something before the prev one died
tbh thats me until 5 minutes into playing and i have to remind myself not to do that
lol tag spam sound is least annoying when theres constant Poxburster PING PING PING and Mutant RAAARAGHFDGLOHFSFLODSKJ
I had a knife zealot spam tag everything to the point where i told him i would kill one less thing everytime he pinged. I was focus fire vet and started pinging everything that wasn't an enemy and only used melee, still outdid that little shit
fuck dat
@azure mortar re: the shot gun i think scattershot is good when you use the dragonfire shot because those have infa cleave and they proc 2 stacks of fire. unless im wrong
its good on vet
crit does not double stack burn on kant
oh i see
It's to maintain overall buff, but no need to spam it, you got like 10 seconds to refresh it
oh
Also Scattershot stacks a bit funny. If you shoot with the primary shot it'll count all enemies in a line regardless of if you damage them.
can someone explain to me wtf the special attack does on the heavy sword? it doesnt do more armor damage like id expect
Stagger
Carapace damage
Also on the Mk IX the special attack does more Flak, Unyielding, and Carapace damage than the H2 and H3.
are the laspistol any good on zealot or am I just wasting time and ressources
For single target specifically
Laspistol is good on Zealot.
That left one is pretty good, just swap BtE to like Infernus or Raking Fire. Ghost provides a similar utility but is better at it.
Some people don't like Raking Fire tbf, not the end of the world.
aight thanks, imma try it out now
what's wrong with the new one ?
I love both Laspistols but
change stamina to flak and then change between the eyes to?
The mkX has a special place in my heart
Nothing
ghost/infernus/raking fire
just got this don't worry
infernus isn't too great esp on the x so i'd go with ghost or raking
looks great
New one has better fire rate better for a run n gun style zealot
Love hip firing just popping heads while I'm zooming around
Mk II better than X imo
is mardyrdom actually good? seems kinda rough to sacrifice extra health and toughness on curios
it's very good for melee damage output
generally people will take a couple DR talents or stuff like restoring faith with it
Running all wound curios with toughness, health, gunners, CDR is good for a Marty build
The new one has a lower firerate and higher damage per shot.
The Mk X is the new one
That's what I get for maining ogryn for 200 hours
Chainsword is XV las pistol is X
We're talking about the Mk X Laspistol
Oh im dumb just ignore me
I thought the mk II was new you're doing better than me 
I absolutely adore the mk10 because it just feels amazing to use and it really damn good
Iโve used Laspistol religiously for so long and then we get a handcannon version? Sign me the fuck up
just spotted this in the wild
dumdum is procing off my melee weapon
is that intended?
oh
its the fire procing the dum dum
Dumdum will proc off of any DoT if you apply it and you pull out the laspistol
If you apply bleed with Scourge it'll proc Dumdum as well
@olive raven and mk6 heavysword is momentum based build?
Shroud or regular zealot ult?
Gotta love annoying players
I love silent specialists
its me. im the annoying player
uhhh didn't realized I was scrolled up but yeah was watching this
my favorite is the very muffled/silent burster that immediately detonates upon opening a door
you rapid tagging at the speed of light 
I've seen someone killed when a burster exploded on the other side of a checkpoint door
the sound system they introduced somewhat recently still needs to cook
this is why you dont camp doors
or else i'll switch to my main
Peak darktide is when you're going down the elevator and the spawner can't decide if the trappers should spawn ahead of your or behind you so you just keep hearing them repeat the first second of their spawn noise
Only had it happen once
it will literally just happen if you open an interactable door
skill issue
Guys which talents with heavysword 6?
you already got news on the twitter
1 image of a scab captain running outside of his boss room
its X now
Surely this means captains ambush you in missions
very hard to know
God I fucking hope I get even more justification to run Chaxe
Even more reasons to play gunnlugger achlys with fire bullets
I'm hoping we can romance the scab captain
I want more monsters that will break down the wall just to get yoinker'd by the local thammer hobo
Poxthrower
is 80% the max you can get on a stat
so for a "godroll" weapon i want get have at least 80 on every good stat right
That's the goal yeah
i'd say above 70% is decent
what stats should i be looking for on the mk xv evis and the revolver
you hardly need that as your goal unless you literally have nothing else lift to do
left*
this is what i got rn
Everything other than mobility should be high
i mean i already hit level 30 so i might as well try to get the best gear known to man right
On the Mk XV it can yeah, but it's slightly more important than what mobility offers.
The cleave past those 4 targets is CC, which is nice in the quantities that the XV can put out
We also have a weapon guide in pins, 2nd one down.
I'm a very big fan of carapace/flak on the MK15
If you want to see notable perks and blessings.
Maniacs all die to a revved heavy
so at the bare minimum i want 80 in damage, pen, and shredder for evis and damage, pen, and crit bonus for revolver?
thats asking for a lot
mobility is dump stat
I wouldn't say bare minimum since the crafting system will make that super hard.
just a spoonful
That's a bare maximum
completly unrelated to dt but i just left the taxi to get into my house and i look up and the night sky is filled with stars
Aim for like, 70+ for non-dump stats.
sure but check out the difference on your stub revolver's damage from a damage of 67% vs the 80% you have there. the 80% does 504 while the 67% does 481 the difference is marginal and not likely to make much of a difference. ~20 points doesn't mean a whole lot.
was just standing in my garden for like 5 mins
Exceptions can be made if the perks and blessings on it are golden
i mean what else am i gonna do with all these resources
gamble it
There's only a few weapons that have a hard breakpoint (like 76 burn on flamer)
true
i know i felt this way i used ot crafting weapons and lvling other classes
So far my best evis is a 70/80/80 damage, pen/ shredder
you were in the match?
The perks make a huge difference
It one shots maulers on body
And two shots crushers period
One shot if I crit
No chastise or stealth needed lmao
i was told to use my modifications on blessings instead of perks
if you have good 4man farming twins for plasteel is absurdly lucrative
can someone check my math and assumption: the old faster shooting las pistol at 121 damage per shot at a fire rate of 4.4/s has a dps of 532. the new last pistol with a 201 damage 2.63/s has a dps of 528. The X here is 80% and the II 72% damage. The X uses 3 per shot while the II uses 2 "ammo". why would i ever use the new pistol?
or so they say idk i dont have friends
Blessings matter less so on an evis imo
But I got lucky and rolled shred 4 + flak 25
Letting me have huge customization freedom with that particular rolled evis
blessing on evis 15 can change how u play it wdym
idk it's not always cut and dry. other things like stagger breakpoints, range and just using what you enjou and what caters to your playstyle are other factors as well
I haven't gone in-depth with the laspistols yet but numerous times that I've looked at DPS it was equally important to note what BPs can be met with higher per shot damage. Also, the ADMs on each are a good bit different, the Mk X hitting >600 while the Mk II hitting ~300 with Flak in mind.
Yea. Immolation/Chastise/Momentum
nah I wasn't just didn't realized I was scrolled up
oh xd
have some cheese for the confusion ๐ง
Like, on paper the Agri Shotgun has higher DPS than the other two for non-Unyielding enemies, but the easier one shots the other two offer a good bit of utility over just raw DPS.
am very grateful for the cheesem 
when i find that damn skaven in my walls
does zealot really need a stamina curio?
no
Whats my best move here? Sprint to flak then hit and run to headhunter?
Is this worth rolling even tho the damage isnt max
yeh
ok
I don't use dclaws so idk what the perks or blessings that would be nice with it someone should answer soon-ish though
slice to sweep, sprint to flak
I thought grimoires were supposed to improve the quality of the emperor's gift, why the fuck am I getting a 336 weapon after 2/2 grim on a damnation/hunting grounds match
turd might be orange but it's still a turd
grimoires are things that I don't touch cus they smell kinda funny
its supposed to improve odds, but meh
so they are extra hard, harder than their VT counterpart and as a bonus are fucking useless
great
yeah p much
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just dont think about it youll get mad
I'M ALREADY MAD
wow rip

theres rly no point to grims or scrips
Scrips for a few extra pennies if your teams doing well enough or have the slots. Grims if your in a full stack and want the challenge
(I always solo que so never)
aight, I'm not taking any grim then
I haven't gotten much of a bonus from those, either.
emperors gifts are basically just ordos and nothing significantly changes that
maybe one out of a million times you get something
So I just started the game yesterday really loving the game play. I'm looking for some advice on a build and won perks/buffs for a hammer type zealot.
Its nice for new guys, since at level 30 you seem to have a good chance for purple and yellow rarity, so good chance to get blessings you still need... and always good if you get weapons that you never tried before, so you can test it without any investment
for hammer blessings and perks, thrust + slaughterer/headtaker and unyielding + flak/elites
my current preferred build is this except backstab CDR instead of swift
and you want all the stats high except for defences and you can also dump crowd control a bit
what is this nonsense
i dont think i remember a single song from the last of us remastered remastered
I see that winner and I'm like
whomst'd've
Like a dragon gaiden shouldve won
i mean, is it the best you have atm?
Hell even phantom liberty
brother completely forgot about darktide
no im not even using it i just got it as a mission clear
Are you under lvl 30?
aint this game like years old
oh wait thats right
no
Thats a very low roll then
i forgot that darktide came out in 2022
ac6 shouldve also been a contender
Riposte
The same people who voted RDR2 
Thanks.
Reddit did it as a "joke"
An elaborate ruse
Starfield as most innovative is just an insult
do these stats look good
fr
Yes
better than this?
the only thing they "innovated" on was giving you a shitty ability like in borderlands
gg
also i feel like the atmosphere was boiled down a lot to fit corporate standards
like the space vegas place just has some weirdos in body suits
Starfield is just boring
meanwhile when you shoot someones leg they start crawling around on the ground bleeding out
ok so i think im gonna replace block efficiency for damage vs carapace/flak and rev it up for savage sweep
sound good?
begging for their life etc
that's kind of a brick
I can't believe I started playing this game almost a year and a half ago
don't forget red dead redemption for "labor or love" while red dead online is shit and dead, while no solo DLC
you could get away with rev to rampage and I guess block to flak, but you don't want any of what you rolled
i didnt get darktide back then because i didnt have a job and had to spend wisely
The playtests were free
damn
agreed
gonna wait till mods make it bearable to play
So. Just tested out Inviz + crit ability CD reduction + knife with backstab 100% rending. I think I like that thing a LOT
Starfield got a huge dump of QoL mods a couple weeks after it came out
i ran survivalist + field improv the last few days, god; that's fucking broke, everybody was comfy
the dialogue is fucking dry and takes forever for them to get out, all the characters are practically the same person, you got no interesting characters like in the fallout games
Never believed in that shit since the day I saw how ugly it is. And since what mods said about the code there... no wonder
going back to selfish builds
what should i be looking for on my evis
i try to take field improv when i don't take survivalist
like all the companions in the fallout games had their own quirks and advantages
i was told savage sweep and wrath for blessings and flak+cara for perks
and good personalities
The modding team for skyrim multiplayer abandoned the project because starfield was dreadfully boring lmao
like a lockpicking irish woman who was severely addicted to drugs
rampage + savage sweep
ok on the new evis nobody in their right mind would EVER suggest sweep and wrath
Damn
Cant wait for dragon's dogma 2 so i can play a good rpg again
but in starfield you just get like 7 different companions who are all the same fucking person
rev to rampage and block to flak
borderlands 2
Flak better than cara?
LOOTER SHOOTER!@@!@
WITH RPG ELEMENTS!!!!
prioritize the most common armor
you want rampage and then pick from like, momentum/bloodthirsty and I guess savage works but the concensus is you don't need a cleave blessing, and for perks definitely flak and I'm honestly not sure what the optimal second perk is
Double dipping cleave blessings isn't the way to go. For generalist it's Rampage + SS/Wrath for the Mk II and Rampage + Shred/Bloodthirsty for the XV.
oh and shred of course
Rampage and shred then
the wp dmg is not the best but at least you'll benefit from with the heavies
I guess Iโm dropping wrath too
which 1
I also bring a certified hood classic
me cutting the head off a fucking dragon in skyrim
C
Yeah, read that piece of news... Initially had high hopes for the mods, since okay, its obv was not gonna be TES level of game campaignwise. But they sent even that part down to the warp gods
The one thats thiccer
if you want a cleave blessing I was told savage sweep is better than wrath because you lose all your wrath stack when missing an attack
2nd easy
starfields most interesting stuff is a handful of sidequests which are actually solid, but damn the main story is ass
i don't like dumping mobility but ymmv
Also tekken 8
Wtf bruh
the dungeons were alright aswell
Cant wait to play a good fighting game cause mk1 was dreadful
it's better on the ,mk2
what did I say
yeah, some of them were nice until they got repetitive
the unique dungeons were nice
I'mma be honest
the 15 don't need but if you take wone it's wrath
deleted the game before i got to that point
Since Bethesda got Skyrim done, they have been basically modding it
the dmg is capped to 4 targets but not the stagger
The United Colonies storyline in general was interesting but compared to everything else its like. They put most of their brain material into developing that one and the others kinda got ehh?
fr
skyrim itself is a mod
of oblivion
pirates and terrormorphs were hands down the best
Lies, Oblivion doesn't have mild camera bob on weapon swings
And well get 500 million dollars
Skyrim does, therefore it's a brand new game
Starfield doesnt have a partial reload right?
what's the go to hammer and build for monstrosity deletus
crucis
thrust
and sneaky
on which hammer?
crucis
Thammer w/ +Unyielding and Thrust + Headtaker/Slaught along with like, Duellist, Fury of the Faithful, and some other stuff will get you 2 shots on bosses.
Thanks y'all
sleepy Steve
i also kinda found it annoying that they put 2 different types of shotgun shells in the game
bleed still proces skullcrusher?
i like soulful steve staring outside too
wdym
slug is a type of shell right?
there like, a 20mm shotgun shell and a 12 gauge shell
yeah
so 3
I imagine the shotgun special attacks would each be a different type of shell
kant, agri, law
pretty sure this is a starfield related comment
OOOOO
we talking about starfield
that would do it
OH
lol
its not a huge thing i just found it annoying that i cant use all the shotgun shells i found
also the miniguns just ugly
I think I had a friend who was annoyed about the ammo types too
like what the blud caused them to sway from the fallout design ๐ญ๐ญ
I just ended up buying ammo often cause I used a minigun and one other weapon that used a lot of ammo
like why in gods name did they sway from this
also no power armour kinda thing was a massive L
I actually like the futuristic minigun design but it's a bit too... blocky
different setting and starfield wants you to know it's futuristic by making every single firearm full of square shapes
but yeah no power armor is rough
starfield isnt futuristic enough
there are npcs walking around with brief cases in the city
ok so for the perfect evis i would take rampage and shred blessings and damage vs cara and flak perks
is this the strat
what killed the game for me was that it's the futur with spaceships and stuff, but to deliver a quest you have to physically go to the person you can't give them a call...
yes
sounds good to me, or elites instead of cara
Starfield is also the worst game to put into the gamebryo engine
Starfield sucks tho
is there a guide on what enemies fall under what categories
bless ya
I didn't play much fallout but I played fallout 4 and honestly fuck the power armor in that game, also I know it's not a good game lol
It bothers me there are not more FPS RPGs. Robocop was pretty good tho. Probably the best I've played in recent memory.
could someone tell me how a good flamer would look like?
i liked it
i only get conflicting informations
so basically carapace armor is just a couple of elites and the twins
worlds better then starfield
ill take elites instead then
fallout 76 is worlds better then starfield
mauler helmet is cara
T-Hammer users, do you like your heretics with or without the peel?
mauler is also an elite though
the rest of him isnt
I find it really funny how low my standards are for FPS RPGs and yet I still get dissappointed often.
high cloud radius, 76+ burn, blaze away and rn anything for second blessing cause overpressure doesn't work right, and for perks it's flak/elites/unyielding
i like reload + reload blessing on flamer
the children of the flame yearn for a fixed overpressure
if you need reload on flamer you are using it wrong
Don't forget to tap dat flamer!
dont care i spam it
alright so im free to choose the second blessing after taste
thanks man
Tappity tap tap tappity tap tap look at flamer go
im usually never on the flamer until when it's a shtf moment
regarding power armor in 4, it just completely trivialized everything with no downsides
oh i see now
boohoo
it was fun
i either get a 10% general damage boost against all elites or a 25% damage boost against the fat elites
I never touched the stuff and now I feel smug for doing so. Thank you!
I generally like games to have some sort of challenge to them but I wanted to use power armor so idk
ill take carapace then
go carapace + elite and then alternatively you can go rampage + bloodthirsty
you have a high roll enough evis to 1 shot crushers
blood letter sucks
Aight
bloodthirsty you can 1 shot crushers without pressing f
Wtf
it's a fun meme
So either rampage shred cara flak or rampage bloodthirsty cara elite
They perform pretty much the same right
does damage matter then?
Ok
shred better for sure if you want crit CDR spam
not at all
alright
the node above piety
everything you smack during a crit lowers ur ulti by 1s
1.5
oh right on
Ah I donโt have that talent on this build
i don't think giving a minigun and set of power armor at the start of fallout 4 was a good idea and i'm pretty sure there's actually a few frames scattered around the early parts of the game as well lol
Never used any of the heavy swords before and hadron just slammed this thing for me
And for revolver I take weakspot damage and crit chance with hand cannon and surgical?
Aight
no, you take flak and maniac for perks
Damage vs flak and maniac with hand cannon and surgical?
yes
never take weakspot or crit damage perks, and crit chance is only OK on like, laspistol or knife
The math ainโt mathing out Iโm a single point short of getting invocation of death
I don't think I would do this
i dont have the toughness marty node either i think
Wtf
im tellin u if i need toughness i just press f
id have to double check
granted getting TWBS would be nice
but i do know i run twbs
I hate getting stunlocked by gunners you are right
oh wait no u can keep the toughness one
When I asked my friends they said it was a skill issue and I should either smash f or shoot the gunner
Chain axe pros: style points out the wazoo
Chain axe cons: I have no idea which keystone to pick ๐ค
i think i gave up duelist
it's rly just to pump the shred damage way tf up
The emperors protection didnโt account for shakey aim I guess
i mean thats if u wanna run marty i also like momentum with the evis
I love marty
i tried that cookie cutter crit build with it too and it's fine
u can do w/e with the evis 15 and do ok
Fair enough
Duelist looks way too good to give up though
I press space and get a 50% weakspot and crit damage chance
Quick question what is critical damage
not crit chance
Is it just a chance to do more damage
the big number hurts more
It's just more dmg
I canโt be sure anymore with how fatshark words shit
And itโs completely chance based right
so you get 50% weakspot damage which is like, 17% damage, or 50% more crit damage which is similar, or a crit weakspot does 100% more which is actually somewhere around 40%
Damn
these are ballpark actual damage numbers but should be close enough
Ok
calc depends on the weapons scaling
If I can only choose one do I take shred or rampage
rampage
broadly speaking i think rampage
Also how do yโall farm blessings do you just do missions and sacrifice them or do you buy weapons and consecrate them
i'm not a huge crit enjoyer tho
I just had an epiphany
B. Larghm
buy weapons and consecrate to farm specific weapon blessings
Ok
+xp is useless
Blue or yellow rarity
gold weapons have a higher t4 chance
is there true lvl cap
Ok

also only upgrade 350+ for blessing farming
Got it
(That isn't me thankfully)
damn and he got 3 wounds
Mat farming strat is twins right
psyker problems
I usually see psykers with two wounds
I don't think twins are the farming strat, you don't get many mats IIRC
someone was saying its like 10k plasteel an hour
I never counted all I saw was chests full of plastiseal before the final fight and I saw heaven
i didnt see proof tho
You don't get as much as normal though I'm pretty sure
Like the pickups are worth less
damn it
oh wait im level 30 and have good gear now
i can actually join lfgs for damn mat farms
there just weren't as many pick ups in my experience
its time to strike it rich boys
but I can't confirm or deny
Honestly I think that there's as much merit for doing the level normally for an actual boss attempt as there is skipping to it
You'll end up with much better equipment
one last question what is auric level
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
is it like drg deep dives or something
Elite gold-tier ops for level 30s only
or just heresy/damnation missions with some modifiers slapped on it
auric has a 50% tension modifier which I believe is 2x more frequent waves or something, that or 1.5x more frequent
they're harder for sure
also all aurics have intrinsic High Int
even the mael
more waves aka more frequent spawns of enemies
sounds exhilarating
I would suggest if you are new to just run normal Damnation tbh
im like 25 hours in
- hidden High Intensity
100 hours in vermintide though if that amounts for anything
Auric Damnation and auric maelstrom were added specifically for the tryhards who wanted to sweat and have a challenge
survived my fair share of last man standing moments in heresy
extremely high payouts though
you should more or less be able to carry regular damnation by yourself, if you feel like that is impossible don't play auric yet
wealth beyond measure
if you get gud and can run with 3 10%+ docket curios
oh alright
wealth beyond measure
Auric usually also has the best teammates
same but slightly less for normal damnation
whats the best zealot gun to pair with a knife build? im using stunstorm and shroudfield as my keystones
preferably itd be something that can deal with armor
revolver fo sho
the zarona one right
The one that lets you aim
ie the one where you load the rounds individually
mk II
its like having two revolvers
always 80 mobility. 
ikr
whichever is the older revolver. Great for snipers, armor, and you whip it out in like .2s
3, 4x times a day I say "if mobility/collateral were swapped with X stat this would be a perfect godroll"
mobility takes all forms of happiness away from hundreds every day
too many chumps run mobility to get ahead n gobble kills. Mobility is so good for protecting your front and back line from any specialist tho
Mobi is always a dump
also which knife is better, the og or the new one?
perfect godroll imo is 80 everything and then enough left in mobility to barely edge over 51
for like 95% of weapons
new one is fun for running around like naruto and slashing shit as you rush by
isnt 380 the max total today? So 80% in most stast, 60 in one
id sacrifice my first born to be able to roll over an 80 on mobility
yeah but odds of getting a roll like that are so low it might as well not happen
If I recall it was described as intervals being multiplied by .5, so everything would be twice as fast.
I've seen two perfect 380s in over 900 hours
across 4 chars
hadron took care of the rest
as is tradition
With that bill I think your only bets would be Boltgun and Revolver. Though, knife is already one of the better Elite single target damage weapons available so I'd recommend a Flamer or a Kant to cover the knife's weakness.
Fs hates happy gamer
I wanna give bolter a try again sometime
I Used to be a thammer bolter zealot for like my first 80 hrs or so back at launch
then I discovered the flamer
It's a bit underwhelming, needs a tiny bit. Still good for Carapace on non-Fury builds.
Though Revolver will kinda just fill in it's place
hard to compete and whatnot
revolver
I've been thammer/flamer exclusively since then probably for over 215+ missions
teach me your ways
As long as someone can be bothered to bring a Civil War musket to shoot snipers I will kill everything else in the game with my hands

do you go full meme stealth bonk? or something else
Ah, the classic
the secret sauce
what blessings should i get on this
mmmm. nice
fuck if only pen and mob were swapped
again. fuck mobility
do you go knives or grenades?
already going to cost you a reroll to fix HC I
i use stun nades
bump it to purple and see what you get
Not a PB. But that first perk...
380 weapon and hadron gives you a fucking tier 1 blessing lmao
pain
I had hadron give me a level 2 perk and a tier 1 blessing on a 376
this must have been a shop item
from grey
surely
I had to check the character I was on
unfortunate
bad?
dude thats a good rolll
i would keep if you have nothing else and you want to try to gun for a bit
i got this one too , are defenses important with this sword version? ive never used this one
ok awesome
fuck dude. she is really fucking you with these blessings
unless that's from shop fresh
honestly i dont really like H sword
but I'm a hammer fanatic so
Hsword is prettyy goood, when you get the right blessings
ok thx
demonhost losing 3/5 of hp bar before she can even break her cuffs is too good to not use
i have a tier 4 handcannon on my other revolver , bad roll tho
was a match reward
imagine being some nasty-ass daemon chilling in the Immaterium for 15k years trying to get a deal to get to realspace, and after generations of plotting you manage to get yourself not only worshipped, but summoned straight there by some Nurgle idiots. You even got a host given to you so you can stay manifested in realspace without using up all your energy. Now you just have to break the will of this shitty imperial citizen and you can go HAM on people as much as you want. You see the group of Rejects getting closer, you're CACKLING inside that host. Then the Zealot Chastises over to you and banishes your Slim Jim-looking ass back to Hell in two left -> right swings of his little hammer.
case in point why I'll never swap off
500 hours into the game I just ran my first mission with a flamer ๐ Question - when you spam LMB for the flame burst, does it slow down your mousespeed?
yes it does
I find that I have to get into a rhythm with the m1 spam so I know when to look at the next target
trying to do the slow aim messed me up for a long time
It probably is fucking you out of a dodge which kinda blows. But it's still going to slap. 25% mutants for a perk and it should be close to oneshotting mutants with heavy 1 and a weak spot hit
You might need deathblow too for that breakpoint as well though. I'm not sure what the exact numbers you need are without it
awesome thanks
@south folio yeah you were right the dogs push back does still exist i just had it knock me back into a trapper shot
this game has the best mechanics
lmao
The dogs are so much better than they used to be
The push timing is wacky it's so big
Thanks, Emperor. I guess.
Rumbled
shredder auto pistol is actually somewhat enjoyable now that its not dumb af
bring back old shredder
