#zealot-class

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north sedge
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No but I've experienced it after poor food choices

open pollen
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Its a short horror game where you play the Michael Jordan of Gastroenterologists

ripe quest
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One of the cool parts about Thammer is that you can 1 shot or chunk stuff. Thunderous doesn't help you do that, it strictly gets better as the number of hits to kill something gets higher, and it's not even that much damage for stuff like Unyielding.

open pollen
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Surprisingly good for the blue subject matter

frozen glen
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but if u rev up the hammer the saw ticks apply multiple stacks of thunderous

zealous basin
ripe quest
open pollen
zealous basin
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and theres only one actual katana clip its mostly just me running at people with my katana out and then shooting them

north sedge
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Like a true samurai gunman

open pollen
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Make em think your going in close. Then shoot them. Half the time it works 100% of the time.

zealous basin
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here lemme see

open pollen
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Works better in Fistful of Frags, a different cowboy game, but only because people rely too much on kicking.

zealous basin
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i love fistful of frags

azure mortar
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why can ogryn stagger monstrosities with a fucking slap of the hand while a two handed crusher can't

open pollen
ornate bone
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The chastise zealot whenever there's a poxwalker within a square mile

olive raven
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and needs more damage tbh

open pollen
olive raven
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ogryns should get their own ammo aura too

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but it triggers on any kill

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and replenishes all the ammo for the team

open pollen
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They're the Ogryns, gotta love them!

olive raven
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To make up for this buff, they should also get a literal lobotomy.

north sedge
olive raven
open pollen
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I wonder if the ogryn favortism is a byproduct of so many oggie mains also being testers?

olive raven
open pollen
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Shame we're all crazed psycho degenerates. Otherwise we'd have more zealot main testers... I think.

azure mortar
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most hated class by fatshark ?

open pollen
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Hmmm. Psyker?

north sedge
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๐Ÿค”

open pollen
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Used to be Vet

olive raven
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vet was

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not the least hated

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they just fucked it up

open pollen
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But now, Psyker has weakest tree

olive raven
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uh.

open pollen
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Half as many nodes

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Blue nodes, I should say

native cargo
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ew non-zealot talent tree

north sedge
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๐Ÿค”

open pollen
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Going by talent tree alone, I say we are second favorite

north sedge
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Psyker is fucked up strong

open pollen
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Aye. Maybe thats why their tree is wimpy

north sedge
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๐Ÿค”

open pollen
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Also. They only have 4 magic sticks. Which seems low for a space wizard.

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But I am not a psyker main so maybe they are happy with meager number of sticks

azure mortar
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what are you talking about, they have lot of magic sticks

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some just happen to shoot bullets

olive raven
open pollen
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(Talent nodes being blue ones)

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Less options

visual stream
open pollen
wheat topaz
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tried it out. its actually really good. i wonder though if its worth on damn maelstrom since you meet so many big bois. especially recently with the scab only theme going on

native cargo
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The tree of mutants are not to be praised for they offend the God-Emperor's chosen human design

visual stream
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Zealot feels more diversified but at the same time hardly any bad "bloat" talents ๐Ÿค” I don't know ogryn tree as well as zealot tree though

royal vortex
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i find the psyker tree p boring. but there's a lot about the class i just do not like

open pollen
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They're trees mistah Rat.

native cargo
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Them trees are mutants

open pollen
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Don't trust the trees

visual stream
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You don't agree that those trees are rather Mutant-Like? watching

open pollen
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They are weird. What trees have branches what which merge back in on themselves

wheat topaz
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anyone else feel really underwhelmed by the new eviscerator? it feels just slow enough to be a pain to use

open pollen
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Everyone hates rev it up but me? I have a need for speed.

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Otherwise yar, bit underwhelming. But, I could also just be bad.

wheat topaz
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i bet you are amazing

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:>

open pollen
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Aw shucks

royal vortex
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+carapace doesn't net you anything huge unless you have bloodthirsty for the crusher one shots

wheat topaz
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yea on eviscerator i guess its not worth it really

royal vortex
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perfect strike is generally also pretty awful on the new eviscerator, shittier activation condition with roughly equal rewards compared to wrath/savage sweep

open pollen
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I do find it weird when a weapon has two blessings that do the same thing slightly differently.

royal vortex
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rampage + bloodthirsty/shred/savage sweep/wrath is the generally preferred setup

wheat topaz
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what about my old vanilla eviscerator? is the blessings bad on that? i feel like more bleed is good but idk

royal vortex
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bloodletter isn't really netting u much worthwhile here. it's a cleave blessing but the rev heavy is already doing a lot of horde damage

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bloodthirsty likewise isn't great on old eviscerator either, only good on the new one for some one-shot breakpoints

wheat topaz
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ah damn i knew it could've been better

open bramble
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Do you still just go savage + rampage on old evi?

royal vortex
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p much

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some people swap one of those 2 for shred for crit cdr spam

open pollen
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Meme team idea: 3 bleed zealots and one protector ogryn with TDR on bleed proxy.

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The goal of the zealots is to buzz around the ogryn and give them more TDR buffs with relic

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That'd be quite silly, no?

fading vale
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having multiple bleed sucks cause only one person gets to be the owner

olive raven
fading vale
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same with any dot

open pollen
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Psyker has room to expand on width without hurting length. Needs more G I R T H

olive raven
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less options is

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not equal to weak

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They have some of the best toughness regen, most stamina via kinetic deflector, guaranteed crits, etc

open pollen
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Ah, I think you misunderstand me. I judge the strength of a tree by its diversity. Psyker has lowest level of diversity, therefor it is the weakest tree. The nodes themselves are strong, the class is strong, the tree is weak. Not enough branches. Enemic tree.

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I want more silly/fun nodes. Like movement speed on peril gain or something.

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Let me explode for free once in a while.

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That kind of stuff.

olive raven
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that would

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defeat the point of PoW

open pollen
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Prisoners of war?

olive raven
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Perils of the Warp

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that is what the explosion is called

open pollen
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Ah. I suppose it might. But twas just an example.

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Maybe it could replace the down with a debuff. But I don't want to speculate in that. I just want more options in general.

ornate bone
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That would be an actually useful case for locking certain choices in the tree

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You can take shriek and manually vent, or you can take some kind of psyker holy revenant where you blow up on enemies for free and enter a cooldown

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But not have both at the same time

open pollen
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They also don't have red nodes.

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Like our CDR or vets Ability modifiers

olive raven
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i mean

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they have similar stuff

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within their keystones

waxen fulcrum
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Honestly i kind of avoid red nodes. I prefer consistent buffs

olive raven
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Warp Battery has CDR

waxen fulcrum
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Also pow doesnt do enough damage to be useful

open pollen
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Aye, as far as I know, red nodes are ability modifiers that work for any combat ability

waxen fulcrum
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As anyone who has gone for that one penance knows

ornate bone
open pollen
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Being able to buff PoW before blowing yer load would be a cool meta-mechanic.

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Gain stacks. Detonate

waxen fulcrum
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I wouldnt let me team suffer like that. Now that i have my penance at least whatthefuck_heresy

ornate bone
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It's not even that you can accidentally game end yourself, but you accidentally trigger an incredibly long animation that doesn't actually have any payoff

prime ridge
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brickt?

olive raven
prime ridge
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NOT BRICK!

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Huzzah!

olive raven
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not great

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but not brick

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7/10

wheat topaz
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ooh better result this time, hmm what should i change here

wraith helm
prime ridge
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What weap

ornate bone
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Would also be interesting to see some clever ways of canceling POW

prime ridge
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swap*

frozen glen
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bro got 4/4 blessings

olive raven
ornate bone
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Currently you explode if you get disabled while in the animation

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So you can get put in a situation where you might not even have the chance to shriek

waxen fulcrum
ornate bone
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It's rare, but not like you can do anything while locked, so you can't avoid disablers

wheat topaz
olive raven
frozen glen
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all of those rolls are bis

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u can just leave it as is

prime ridge
wheat topaz
waxen fulcrum
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You could boost both perks

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Blessings seem fine

wheat topaz
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hmmm alright ill leave it for now

prime ridge
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what blessings do I want on a kant shotgun?

hushed knoll
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@lusty turtle want some soup?

waxen fulcrum
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Changing perks gives you room to change them later if they dont feel right

olive raven
olive raven
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its not the greatest roll ever

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but the blessings work

real isle
lost solar
real isle
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wich blessing should i take

prime ridge
north sedge
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No respite is kind of a big deal on shotgun

ripe quest
olive raven
wheat topaz
olive raven
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thats why

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also heavy swords are in general good

wheat topaz
olive raven
ripe quest
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Deathblow extends First Target to 5 total enemies

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with the heavies specifically

lost solar
ripe quest
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The IX's H2 and H3 are an exception.

olive raven
prime ridge
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Leux, what perks am I taking on this shotgun?

royal vortex
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open reddit thread

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some dude is telling a guy to put thunderstrike on his shovel

ripe quest
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The VII and VI are essentially the same Hsword just with different combos, they have light advantages over eachother. The IX trades elite damage for a better fodder and bruiser damage profile.

lost solar
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is the deathblow interaction a bug?

ripe quest
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no

vivid hawk
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what's the deathblow interaction?

prime ridge
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Its trench time.

south folio
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the description for it is just total poopoo

royal vortex
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fatshark hides all the good shit beyond a layer of stupid tooltips

olive raven
prime ridge
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noted

open pollen
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Psionic self destruct would be like. Two nodes. First node makes POW not kill you outright, only dealing reduced damage and/or a self debuff instead. Second node increases power of PoW with each stack. Gain stacks from killing elites or something. Maybe even have node that gives allies a buff when you pop.

Gosh darnit I didn't want to speculate on this!

native cargo
left hare
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does anyone have a build for the new heavy las pistol. I have a good roll but i hate it compared to the old heavy las pistol

frozen glen
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put flak dumdum on it

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job done

open pollen
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Isn't the new one like, the same but with recoil?

left hare
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its really slow

open pollen
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Ah. Right. Slow, and with recoil.

left hare
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yea

open pollen
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Dinnae even give ye a charged shot for yer troubles

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Tsk tsk tsk

ornate bone
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HARK KIN

open pollen
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But anyways yeah, I like my trees wide and girthy. Psyker trees a skinny birch.

ornate bone
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YE OL LASPISTOLE

left hare
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switch carapace to flak or leave it alone and use it with FOtF

untold carbon
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Switch it to flak

abstract venture
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You lucky I ruined mine by running crit chance for Infernus proc ๐Ÿ˜”

left hare
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yea i did that to one too

abstract venture
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Stuck with infested+crit chance, dumdum+Infernus on a perfect

left hare
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ouch

abstract venture
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And I mean perfect stat roll

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PAIN

left hare
open pollen
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Are there any weapons that don't meta flak?

left hare
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this is what i did to mine

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oops

azure mortar
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what kind of blessing is good on this for a zealot ? I feel like every shotgun blessing suck

open pollen
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Guns, that is.

abstract venture
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If only between the eyes was that blessing that gives ranged immunity on crit hit/kill

fading vale
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infernus doesn't do anything

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it's like, small damage for monstrosities

abstract venture
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I've noticed it's nearly no damage bonus

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It is nice to get a visual of how much your ranged crits but that's as far as it's useful in my case

fading vale
abstract venture
fading vale
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basically always take dumdum and then whatever

vague depot
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Anyone have a general idea of what stats I should be looking for on a mk5 evis and a revolver

north sedge
vague depot
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Like 80+ damage, 70+ shredder, stuff like that

fading vale
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zarona is surgical/hand cannon and flak maniac

abstract venture
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Flak+maniac on both, dumdum+surgical on revolver

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All revolver stats as high as possible leaving mobility lowest

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Chainsword is all highest other than defence/mobility

fading vale
abstract venture
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Oh surgical handcannon

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MB

ornate bone
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dumdum handcannon

fading vale
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yeah no respite is just the best shotgun blessing

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it stacks up to 7 times

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giving you potentially 140% more damage on a shot on a staggered enemy

azure mortar
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wtf

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why is this* not mentionned anywhere ffs

fading vale
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usually it will be around 3 stacks on the second shot I think

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unless there is another source of stagger

north sedge
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Shame it got capped, dead weapon now ๐Ÿ˜”

atomic sparrow
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just regular damnation but good roll evis makes all the difference, have to switch of chorus and go all in on chastise

fading vale
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chastise is just so good

ripe quest
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A fun interaction is to stun grenade with a NR Shotgun since you will get 5+ stacks on every enemy there

wheat topaz
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wtf is wrong with people

fading vale
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people binding tag to lmb and scroll wheel

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is the best

blazing fossil
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lol whats wrong with tag on middle mouse button?

north sedge
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I hate that shit

fading vale
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middle mouse is fine

ripe quest
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some people just spam the shit out of it

fading vale
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not scroll wheel

blazing fossil
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oh lol

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tagging go brrrr

heavy arch
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i just tag what im focused on

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and ignore the tag spam

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or try to

atomic sparrow
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i bind tag to side mouse button because i dont want to accidentally tag to another target when i left click to attack

wheat topaz
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i love that im asking nicely. and im just told like i killed his baby

heavy arch
ripe quest
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dude I gotta try hooking up my g502 and using an air can to spam ping a patrol and see how fast I get kicked

fading vale
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I almost always tag whatever I'm shooting just to see the head outline

olive raven
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people dont know votekick exists

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so

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tbh i just tag

fading vale
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unless they are like, close enough

olive raven
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Elite packs, disablers and bursters

heavy arch
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constantly tagging is fine

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it's the tag spam tho

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when theres like 6 and each one is tagged every second ding ding ding idn gdngding

olive raven
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or some random fucking sniper

blazing fossil
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i played with a vet with focus yesterday that would tag spam, do they know you lose stacks doing that?

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retag something before the prev one died

heavy arch
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tbh thats me until 5 minutes into playing and i have to remind myself not to do that

atomic sparrow
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lol tag spam sound is least annoying when theres constant Poxburster PING PING PING and Mutant RAAARAGHFDGLOHFSFLODSKJ

wheat topaz
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ah ofc votekick did not pass

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ah well ima just leave

north sedge
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I had a knife zealot spam tag everything to the point where i told him i would kill one less thing everytime he pinged. I was focus fire vet and started pinging everything that wasn't an enemy and only used melee, still outdid that little shit

wheat topaz
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fuck dat

left hare
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@azure mortar re: the shot gun i think scattershot is good when you use the dragonfire shot because those have infa cleave and they proc 2 stacks of fire. unless im wrong

heavy arch
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its good on vet

fading vale
left hare
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oh i see

north sedge
blazing fossil
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oh

ripe quest
# left hare oh i see

Also Scattershot stacks a bit funny. If you shoot with the primary shot it'll count all enemies in a line regardless of if you damage them.

solar obsidian
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can someone explain to me wtf the special attack does on the heavy sword? it doesnt do more armor damage like id expect

untold carbon
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Stagger

ripe quest
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Carapace damage

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Also on the Mk IX the special attack does more Flak, Unyielding, and Carapace damage than the H2 and H3.

azure mortar
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are the laspistol any good on zealot or am I just wasting time and ressources

ripe quest
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For single target specifically

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Laspistol is good on Zealot.

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That left one is pretty good, just swap BtE to like Infernus or Raking Fire. Ghost provides a similar utility but is better at it.

azure mortar
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lol I just switched raking fire 4 for dumdum

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if only I had asked sooner

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arf

ripe quest
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Some people don't like Raking Fire tbf, not the end of the world.

azure mortar
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aight thanks, imma try it out now

left hare
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i LOVE las pistol

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the old one

azure mortar
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what's wrong with the new one ?

untold carbon
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I love both Laspistols but

left hare
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change stamina to flak and then change between the eyes to?

untold carbon
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The mkX has a special place in my heart

untold carbon
royal vortex
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ghost/infernus/raking fire

azure mortar
royal vortex
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infernus isn't too great esp on the x so i'd go with ghost or raking

left hare
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looks great

abstract venture
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New one has better fire rate better for a run n gun style zealot

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Love hip firing just popping heads while I'm zooming around

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Mk II better than X imo

solar obsidian
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is mardyrdom actually good? seems kinda rough to sacrifice extra health and toughness on curios

royal vortex
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it's very good for melee damage output

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generally people will take a couple DR talents or stuff like restoring faith with it

abstract venture
ripe quest
abstract venture
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Is the mk X new?

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Thought it was the mk II that was new

ripe quest
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The Mk X is the new one

blazing fossil
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its VX

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or XV

abstract venture
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That's what I get for maining ogryn for 200 hours

abstract venture
ripe quest
blazing fossil
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Oh im dumb just ignore me

abstract venture
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I thought the mk II was new you're doing better than me whatthefuck_heresy

untold carbon
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I absolutely adore the mk10 because it just feels amazing to use and it really damn good

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Iโ€™ve used Laspistol religiously for so long and then we get a handcannon version? Sign me the fuck up

solar obsidian
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just spotted this in the wild

left hare
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dumdum is procing off my melee weapon

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is that intended?

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oh

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its the fire procing the dum dum

ripe quest
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Dumdum will proc off of any DoT if you apply it and you pull out the laspistol

left hare
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and i get to use it in melee

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thats bae

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w

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based

ripe quest
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If you apply bleed with Scourge it'll proc Dumdum as well

lost solar
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@olive raven and mk6 heavysword is momentum based build?

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Shroud or regular zealot ult?

native cargo
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Gotta love annoying players

solar gorge
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I love silent specialists

royal vortex
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its me. im the annoying player

native cargo
solar gorge
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when the burster spawn around the corner and is silent

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peak darktide

royal vortex
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my favorite is the very muffled/silent burster that immediately detonates upon opening a door

native cargo
blazing fossil
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I've seen someone killed when a burster exploded on the other side of a checkpoint door

solar gorge
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the sound system they introduced somewhat recently still needs to cook

frosty herald
solar gorge
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or else i'll switch to my main

native cargo
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Peak darktide is when you're going down the elevator and the spawner can't decide if the trappers should spawn ahead of your or behind you so you just keep hearing them repeat the first second of their spawn noise

solar gorge
native cargo
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Only had it happen once

royal vortex
native cargo
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I don't open doors

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I only walk through doors

frosty herald
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also gib news fatshark

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damn those mandatory vacations

lost solar
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Guys which talents with heavysword 6?

solar gorge
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you already got news on the twitter

native cargo
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ew twitter

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Can't believe elon killed the bird

solar gorge
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1 image of a scab captain running outside of his boss room

blazing fossil
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its X now

frosty herald
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Surely this means captains ambush you in missions

solar gorge
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very hard to know

ripe quest
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God I fucking hope I get even more justification to run Chaxe

solar gorge
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Even more reasons to play gunnlugger achlys with fire bullets

north sedge
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I'm hoping we can romance the scab captain

ripe quest
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Scab Captain rolling up to me running a twins 2 shot build

native cargo
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I want more monsters that will break down the wall just to get yoinker'd by the local thammer hobo

solar gorge
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be patient and you'll get the flamethrower plogryn

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eventually

indigo quartz
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Poxthrower

solar gorge
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anydaynow

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pox bomber too

vague depot
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is 80% the max you can get on a stat

ripe quest
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Yes

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380 is the max total base stats

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So you get 4 80's and a 60

vague depot
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so for a "godroll" weapon i want get have at least 80 on every good stat right

ripe quest
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That's the goal yeah

solar gorge
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i'd say above 70% is decent

vague depot
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what stats should i be looking for on the mk xv evis and the revolver

left hare
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you hardly need that as your goal unless you literally have nothing else lift to do

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left*

vague depot
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this is what i got rn

ripe quest
vague depot
indigo quartz
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Cleave targets can he dumped

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It has a hard 4 target cap

ripe quest
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On the Mk XV it can yeah, but it's slightly more important than what mobility offers.

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The cleave past those 4 targets is CC, which is nice in the quantities that the XV can put out

frosty herald
ripe quest
indigo quartz
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I'm a very big fan of carapace/flak on the MK15

ripe quest
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If you want to see notable perks and blessings.

indigo quartz
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Maniacs all die to a revved heavy

vague depot
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so at the bare minimum i want 80 in damage, pen, and shredder for evis and damage, pen, and crit bonus for revolver?

heavy arch
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thats asking for a lot

frosty herald
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mobility is dump stat

ripe quest
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I wouldn't say bare minimum since the crafting system will make that super hard.

vague depot
north sedge
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That's a bare maximum

sacred vessel
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completly unrelated to dt but i just left the taxi to get into my house and i look up and the night sky is filled with stars

ripe quest
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Aim for like, 70+ for non-dump stats.

left hare
sacred vessel
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was just standing in my garden for like 5 mins

ripe quest
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Exceptions can be made if the perks and blessings on it are golden

vague depot
heavy arch
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gamble it

north sedge
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There's only a few weapons that have a hard breakpoint (like 76 burn on flamer)

vague depot
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true

left hare
vague depot
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fair enough

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is it a good idea to farm twins for plasteel

indigo quartz
wheat topaz
indigo quartz
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The perks make a huge difference

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It one shots maulers on body

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And two shots crushers period

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One shot if I crit

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No chastise or stealth needed lmao

vague depot
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i was told to use my modifications on blessings instead of perks

heavy arch
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if you have good 4man farming twins for plasteel is absurdly lucrative

left hare
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can someone check my math and assumption: the old faster shooting las pistol at 121 damage per shot at a fire rate of 4.4/s has a dps of 532. the new last pistol with a 201 damage 2.63/s has a dps of 528. The X here is 80% and the II 72% damage. The X uses 3 per shot while the II uses 2 "ammo". why would i ever use the new pistol?

heavy arch
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or so they say idk i dont have friends

ripe quest
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Depends on the weapon a bit

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Like on Revolver I'd 100% prio blessings over perks

indigo quartz
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Blessings matter less so on an evis imo

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But I got lucky and rolled shred 4 + flak 25

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Letting me have huge customization freedom with that particular rolled evis

heavy arch
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blessing on evis 15 can change how u play it wdym

indigo quartz
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Hand cannon is like , 25% flak

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Otherwise blessings all the way

fiery locust
ripe quest
left hare
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i see

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thank you

olive raven
native cargo
wheat topaz
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have some cheese for the confusion ๐Ÿง€

ripe quest
#

Like, on paper the Agri Shotgun has higher DPS than the other two for non-Unyielding enemies, but the easier one shots the other two offer a good bit of utility over just raw DPS.

native cargo
steep flame
#

when i find that damn skaven in my walls

native cargo
#

yes yes

wraith helm
#

does zealot really need a stamina curio?

north sedge
#

no

abstract venture
#

Whats my best move here? Sprint to flak then hit and run to headhunter?

north sedge
#

that does not get headhunter

#

hit and run to ff/deathspitter

hallow hatch
#

Is this worth rolling even tho the damage isnt max

native cargo
#

yeh

hallow hatch
#

ok

native cargo
#

But you do want all stats maxed to 80%

#

Trust

#

I kid thats a nice roll

hallow hatch
#

Did this roll well??

#

i understand the perk sprint cost is really bad

native cargo
#

I don't use dclaws so idk what the perks or blessings that would be nice with it someone should answer soon-ish though

north sedge
#

slice to sweep, sprint to flak

azure mortar
#

I thought grimoires were supposed to improve the quality of the emperor's gift, why the fuck am I getting a 336 weapon after 2/2 grim on a damnation/hunting grounds match

#

turd might be orange but it's still a turd

native cargo
#

grimoires are things that I don't touch cus they smell kinda funny

north sedge
#

its supposed to improve odds, but meh

azure mortar
#

so they are extra hard, harder than their VT counterpart and as a bonus are fucking useless

#

great

heavy arch
#

yeah p much

azure mortar
#

๐Ÿ‘

heavy arch
#

just dont think about it youll get mad

azure mortar
#

I'M ALREADY MAD

heavy arch
#

wow rip

azure mortar
heavy arch
#

theres rly no point to grims or scrips

native cargo
#

Yeah uhhh

#

they're just there for the cancer

tawny tangle
#

Scrips for a few extra pennies if your teams doing well enough or have the slots. Grims if your in a full stack and want the challenge

#

(I always solo que so never)

azure mortar
#

aight, I'm not taking any grim then

rustic lagoon
#

I haven't gotten much of a bonus from those, either.

fading vale
#

emperors gifts are basically just ordos and nothing significantly changes that

#

maybe one out of a million times you get something

cunning meadow
#

So I just started the game yesterday really loving the game play. I'm looking for some advice on a build and won perks/buffs for a hammer type zealot.

bright zephyr
#

Its nice for new guys, since at level 30 you seem to have a good chance for purple and yellow rarity, so good chance to get blessings you still need... and always good if you get weapons that you never tried before, so you can test it without any investment

fading vale
#

my current preferred build is this except backstab CDR instead of swift

#

and you want all the stats high except for defences and you can also dump crowd control a bit

steep flame
#

what is this nonsense

#

i dont think i remember a single song from the last of us remastered remastered

worldly bramble
#

I see that winner and I'm like
whomst'd've

vague depot
#

how does this look

#

do i keep it or do i sacrifice for blessings

frosty herald
steep flame
frosty herald
#

Hell even phantom liberty

steep flame
vague depot
frosty herald
vague depot
steep flame
vague depot
frosty herald
#

Thats a very low roll then

steep flame
#

i forgot that darktide came out in 2022

vague depot
#

sacrifice it is

#

should i take riposte or laceration

steep flame
steep flame
#

its the second remaster

frosty herald
#

Riposte

ornate bone
frosty herald
#

Reddit did it as a "joke"

ornate bone
#

An elaborate ruse

frosty herald
#

Starfield as most innovative is just an insult

vague depot
#

do these stats look good

frosty herald
vague depot
#

better than this?

steep flame
#

the only thing they "innovated" on was giving you a shitty ability like in borderlands

heavy arch
#

way better

#

shredder is important

vague depot
#

gg

steep flame
#

like the space vegas place just has some weirdos in body suits

frosty herald
#

Starfield is just boring

steep flame
vague depot
#

ok so i think im gonna replace block efficiency for damage vs carapace/flak and rev it up for savage sweep

#

sound good?

steep flame
#

begging for their life etc

fading vale
#

that's kind of a brick

ripe quest
azure mortar
fading vale
#

you could get away with rev to rampage and I guess block to flak, but you don't want any of what you rolled

vague depot
#

i didnt get darktide back then because i didnt have a job and had to spend wisely

ripe quest
#

The playtests were free

steep flame
#

gonna wait till mods make it bearable to play

oak cipher
#

So. Just tested out Inviz + crit ability CD reduction + knife with backstab 100% rending. I think I like that thing a LOT

frosty herald
#

Yeah uhhh

#

Modders are abandoning starfield lmao

ripe quest
#

Starfield got a huge dump of QoL mods a couple weeks after it came out

polar nexus
#

i ran survivalist + field improv the last few days, god; that's fucking broke, everybody was comfy

steep flame
#

the dialogue is fucking dry and takes forever for them to get out, all the characters are practically the same person, you got no interesting characters like in the fallout games

oak cipher
polar nexus
#

going back to selfish builds

fading vale
#

field improv is the best aura

#

that's not an aura

vague depot
polar nexus
#

i try to take field improv when i don't take survivalist

steep flame
vague depot
#

i was told savage sweep and wrath for blessings and flak+cara for perks

steep flame
#

and good personalities

frosty herald
steep flame
#

like a lockpicking irish woman who was severely addicted to drugs

azure mortar
#

rampage + savage sweep

fading vale
vague depot
#

Damn

frosty herald
#

Cant wait for dragon's dogma 2 so i can play a good rpg again

steep flame
polar nexus
#

rev to rampage and block to flak

vague depot
#

Flak better than cara?

frosty herald
#

LOOTER SHOOTER!@@!@

steep flame
polar nexus
#

prioritize the most common armor

fading vale
#

you want rampage and then pick from like, momentum/bloodthirsty and I guess savage works but the concensus is you don't need a cleave blessing, and for perks definitely flak and I'm honestly not sure what the optimal second perk is

ripe quest
fading vale
#

oh and shred of course

vague depot
#

Rampage and shred then

polar nexus
#

the wp dmg is not the best but at least you'll benefit from with the heavies

vague depot
#

I guess Iโ€™m dropping wrath too

surreal marlin
#

which 1

ornate bone
#

I also bring a certified hood classic

steep flame
vague depot
#

C

oak cipher
surreal marlin
#

which 1

native cargo
#

The one thats thiccer

azure mortar
north sedge
#

2nd easy

vague depot
#

Mobility is a dump stat iirc

fading vale
#

starfields most interesting stuff is a handful of sidequests which are actually solid, but damn the main story is ass

polar nexus
#

i don't like dumping mobility but ymmv

frosty herald
#

Also tekken 8

steep flame
frosty herald
#

Cant wait to play a good fighting game cause mk1 was dreadful

polar nexus
#

it's better on the ,mk2

azure mortar
fading vale
#

the unique dungeons were nice

ornate bone
#

I'mma be honest

polar nexus
#

the 15 don't need but if you take wone it's wrath

steep flame
ornate bone
#

Since Bethesda got Skyrim done, they have been basically modding it

polar nexus
#

the dmg is capped to 4 targets but not the stagger

ornate bone
#

Only sometimes the mods are big

#

One was named Fallout 4 and the other Starfield

native cargo
steep flame
#

skyrim itself is a mod

#

of oblivion

fading vale
frosty herald
#

So as a joke

#

Lets make the main story the explorers guild from morrowind

ornate bone
frosty herald
#

And well get 500 million dollars

ornate bone
#

Skyrim does, therefore it's a brand new game

steep flame
#

mb

#

the guns were boring too

#

ugly

#

no dismemberment

frosty herald
#

Starfield doesnt have a partial reload right?

hardy vector
#

what's the go to hammer and build for monstrosity deletus

fading vale
#

crucis

steep flame
#

and sneaky

fading vale
#

stealth for 1 or near 1 shots

#

chastise does plenty of damage though

hardy vector
steep flame
#

crucis

ripe quest
hardy vector
#

Thanks y'all

fading vale
#

sleepy Steve

steep flame
#

i also kinda found it annoying that they put 2 different types of shotgun shells in the game

polar nexus
#

bleed still proces skullcrusher?

polar nexus
polar nexus
#

slug is a type of shell right?

steep flame
steep flame
polar nexus
#

so 3

ripe quest
#

I imagine the shotgun special attacks would each be a different type of shell

polar nexus
#

kant, agri, law

fading vale
ripe quest
#

OOOOO

steep flame
ripe quest
#

that would do it

polar nexus
#

OH

steep flame
#

lol

#

its not a huge thing i just found it annoying that i cant use all the shotgun shells i found

#

also the miniguns just ugly

ripe quest
#

I think I had a friend who was annoyed about the ammo types too

steep flame
#

like what the blud caused them to sway from the fallout design ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

fading vale
#

I just ended up buying ammo often cause I used a minigun and one other weapon that used a lot of ammo

steep flame
#

like why in gods name did they sway from this

#

also no power armour kinda thing was a massive L

azure mortar
#

I actually like the futuristic minigun design but it's a bit too... blocky

drifting wolf
#

different setting and starfield wants you to know it's futuristic by making every single firearm full of square shapes

azure mortar
#

but yeah no power armor is rough

heavy arch
#

starfield isnt futuristic enough

#

there are npcs walking around with brief cases in the city

steep flame
#

lol

#

common braindead reddit take

vague depot
#

ok so for the perfect evis i would take rampage and shred blessings and damage vs cara and flak perks

#

is this the strat

azure mortar
#

what killed the game for me was that it's the futur with spaceships and stuff, but to deliver a quest you have to physically go to the person you can't give them a call...

fading vale
frosty herald
#

Starfield is also the worst game to put into the gamebryo engine

willow vale
#

Starfield sucks tho

vague depot
azure mortar
vague depot
#

bless ya

fading vale
open pollen
#

It bothers me there are not more FPS RPGs. Robocop was pretty good tho. Probably the best I've played in recent memory.

vague depot
#

ah

#

its all bastards

low wing
#

could someone tell me how a good flamer would look like?

low wing
#

i only get conflicting informations

vague depot
#

so basically carapace armor is just a couple of elites and the twins

steep flame
#

worlds better then starfield

vague depot
#

ill take elites instead then

steep flame
#

fallout 76 is worlds better then starfield

rustic lagoon
#

T-Hammer users, do you like your heretics with or without the peel?

vague depot
#

mauler is also an elite though

heavy arch
#

the rest of him isnt

open pollen
#

I find it really funny how low my standards are for FPS RPGs and yet I still get dissappointed often.

fading vale
heavy arch
#

i like reload + reload blessing on flamer

drifting wolf
#

the children of the flame yearn for a fixed overpressure

fading vale
#

if you need reload on flamer you are using it wrong

open pollen
#

Don't forget to tap dat flamer!

heavy arch
#

dont care i spam it

low wing
#

thanks man

open pollen
#

Tappity tap tap tappity tap tap look at flamer go

heavy arch
#

im usually never on the flamer until when it's a shtf moment

fading vale
vague depot
#

oh i see now

vague depot
#

i either get a 10% general damage boost against all elites or a 25% damage boost against the fat elites

open pollen
fading vale
#

I generally like games to have some sort of challenge to them but I wanted to use power armor so idk

vague depot
#

ill take carapace then

heavy arch
#

go carapace + elite and then alternatively you can go rampage + bloodthirsty

#

you have a high roll enough evis to 1 shot crushers

vague depot
#

I heard bloodthirsty sucked

#

Or was that blood letter

heavy arch
#

blood letter sucks

vague depot
#

Aight

heavy arch
#

bloodthirsty you can 1 shot crushers without pressing f

vague depot
#

Wtf

heavy arch
#

it's a fun meme

vague depot
#

So either rampage shred cara flak or rampage bloodthirsty cara elite

#

They perform pretty much the same right

heavy arch
#

rampage shred is comfier horde clear

#

bloodthirsty cara elite for 1shot crusher

vague depot
#

Ok

fading vale
#

shred better for sure if you want crit CDR spam

fading vale
low wing
#

alright

vague depot
#

Crit cooldown reduction?

#

On my ability?

fading vale
heavy arch
#

everything you smack during a crit lowers ur ulti by 1s

fading vale
#

1.5

heavy arch
#

oh right on

vague depot
#

Ah I donโ€™t have that talent on this build

heavy arch
#

additive per enemy hit too

#

u should

#

with that evis

vague depot
drifting wolf
calm hemlock
#

Never used any of the heavy swords before and hadron just slammed this thing for me

vague depot
#

And for revolver I take weakspot damage and crit chance with hand cannon and surgical?

heavy arch
#

is what i do

#

up 2 u

vague depot
#

Aight

heavy arch
#

you can regen your ult instantly

#

p easy with that wep

fading vale
vague depot
#

Damage vs flak and maniac with hand cannon and surgical?

fading vale
#

yes

#

never take weakspot or crit damage perks, and crit chance is only OK on like, laspistol or knife

vague depot
# heavy arch

The math ainโ€™t mathing out Iโ€™m a single point short of getting invocation of death

fading vale
heavy arch
#

i dont have the toughness marty node either i think

vague depot
#

Wtf

heavy arch
#

im tellin u if i need toughness i just press f

fading vale
#

unless you are super comfortable with the game and damage maxing

#

but even then eh

vague depot
#

25% damage reduction though

#

Are you sure

heavy arch
#

id have to double check

fading vale
#

granted getting TWBS would be nice

heavy arch
#

but i do know i run twbs

vague depot
#

I hate getting stunlocked by gunners you are right

heavy arch
#

oh wait no u can keep the toughness one

vague depot
#

When I asked my friends they said it was a skill issue and I should either smash f or shoot the gunner

worldly bramble
#

Chain axe pros: style points out the wazoo
Chain axe cons: I have no idea which keystone to pick ๐Ÿค”

heavy arch
#

i think i gave up duelist

vague depot
#

But the suppression

#

When I get hit once my character suddenly gets noodle arms

heavy arch
#

it's rly just to pump the shred damage way tf up

vague depot
#

The emperors protection didnโ€™t account for shakey aim I guess

heavy arch
#

i mean thats if u wanna run marty i also like momentum with the evis

vague depot
#

I love marty

heavy arch
#

i tried that cookie cutter crit build with it too and it's fine

#

u can do w/e with the evis 15 and do ok

vague depot
#

Fair enough

#

Duelist looks way too good to give up though

#

I press space and get a 50% weakspot and crit damage chance

#

Quick question what is critical damage

fading vale
#

not crit chance

vague depot
#

Is it just a chance to do more damage

drifting wolf
#

the big number hurts more

north sedge
#

It's just more dmg

vague depot
#

I canโ€™t be sure anymore with how fatshark words shit

vague depot
fading vale
#

so you get 50% weakspot damage which is like, 17% damage, or 50% more crit damage which is similar, or a crit weakspot does 100% more which is actually somewhere around 40%

vague depot
#

Damn

fading vale
#

these are ballpark actual damage numbers but should be close enough

vague depot
#

Ok

fading vale
#

calc depends on the weapons scaling

vague depot
#

If I can only choose one do I take shred or rampage

fading vale
#

rampage

ashen quartz
#

broadly speaking i think rampage

vague depot
#

Also how do yโ€™all farm blessings do you just do missions and sacrifice them or do you buy weapons and consecrate them

ashen quartz
#

i'm not a huge crit enjoyer tho

median crow
#

I just had an epiphany

copper hawk
#

B. Larghm

median crow
fading vale
#

buy weapons and consecrate to farm specific weapon blessings

vague depot
#

Ok

copper hawk
#

+xp is useless

vague depot
#

Blue or yellow rarity

fading vale
#

gold weapons have a higher t4 chance

heavy arch
#

is there true lvl cap

vague depot
#

Ok

copper hawk
fading vale
#

also only upgrade 350+ for blessing farming

median crow
#

Nope

vague depot
#

Got it

median crow
#

(That isn't me thankfully)

heavy arch
#

damn and he got 3 wounds

vague depot
#

Mat farming strat is twins right

median crow
vague depot
#

I usually see psykers with two wounds

fading vale
#

I don't think twins are the farming strat, you don't get many mats IIRC

heavy arch
#

someone was saying its like 10k plasteel an hour

vague depot
#

I never counted all I saw was chests full of plastiseal before the final fight and I saw heaven

heavy arch
#

i didnt see proof tho

fading vale
#

huh, I could be wrong, not sure

#

I couldn't find much plasteel when I did it

median crow
#

You don't get as much as normal though I'm pretty sure

#

Like the pickups are worth less

vague depot
#

damn it

#

oh wait im level 30 and have good gear now

#

i can actually join lfgs for damn mat farms

fading vale
#

there just weren't as many pick ups in my experience

vague depot
#

its time to strike it rich boys

fading vale
#

but I can't confirm or deny

median crow
#

Honestly I think that there's as much merit for doing the level normally for an actual boss attempt as there is skipping to it

#

You'll end up with much better equipment

vague depot
#

one last question what is auric level

heavy arch
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

vague depot
#

is it like drg deep dives or something

median crow
vague depot
#

or just heresy/damnation missions with some modifiers slapped on it

median crow
#

nice.

fading vale
#

auric has a 50% tension modifier which I believe is 2x more frequent waves or something, that or 1.5x more frequent

median crow
#

also all aurics have intrinsic High Int

#

even the mael

vague depot
#

no idea what that means gg

#

bigger beefier enemies?

median crow
fading vale
#

more waves aka more frequent spawns of enemies

vague depot
#

sounds exhilarating

mental coral
#

I would suggest if you are new to just run normal Damnation tbh

median crow
#

so then you end up with shit like this

vague depot
#

im like 25 hours in

median crow
#
  • hidden High Intensity
vague depot
#

100 hours in vermintide though if that amounts for anything

mental coral
#

Auric Damnation and auric maelstrom were added specifically for the tryhards who wanted to sweat and have a challenge

vague depot
#

survived my fair share of last man standing moments in heresy

median crow
#

extremely high payouts though

fading vale
#

you should more or less be able to carry regular damnation by yourself, if you feel like that is impossible don't play auric yet

vague depot
#

wealth beyond measure

median crow
#

if you get gud and can run with 3 10%+ docket curios

median crow
#

and then maybe qp for another 10

#

you can rake in over 100k in one mission

vague depot
#

wealth beyond measure

median crow
#

Auric usually also has the best teammates

#

same but slightly less for normal damnation

primal grail
#

whats the best zealot gun to pair with a knife build? im using stunstorm and shroudfield as my keystones

#

preferably itd be something that can deal with armor

primal grail
#

the zarona one right

vague depot
#

The one that lets you aim

primal grail
#

ie the one where you load the rounds individually

drifting wolf
#

mk II

heavy arch
#

its like having two revolvers

median zenith
#

always 80 mobility. nadekms

desert thicket
#

whichever is the older revolver. Great for snipers, armor, and you whip it out in like .2s

median crow
#

3, 4x times a day I say "if mobility/collateral were swapped with X stat this would be a perfect godroll"

drifting wolf
#

mobility takes all forms of happiness away from hundreds every day

desert thicket
#

too many chumps run mobility to get ahead n gobble kills. Mobility is so good for protecting your front and back line from any specialist tho

north sedge
#

Mobi is always a dump

median crow
#

as long as my mobility is > 51% i dont care

#

or even equal

primal grail
#

also which knife is better, the og or the new one?

median crow
#

perfect godroll imo is 80 everything and then enough left in mobility to barely edge over 51

#

for like 95% of weapons

desert thicket
#

new one is fun for running around like naruto and slashing shit as you rush by

bright zephyr
desert thicket
#

id sacrifice my first born to be able to roll over an 80 on mobility

median crow
ripe quest
median crow
#

I've seen two perfect 380s in over 900 hours

#

across 4 chars

#

hadron took care of the rest

kind idol
#

as is tradition

ripe quest
low wing
median crow
#

I wanna give bolter a try again sometime

#

I Used to be a thammer bolter zealot for like my first 80 hrs or so back at launch

#

then I discovered the flamer

ripe quest
#

It's a bit underwhelming, needs a tiny bit. Still good for Carapace on non-Fury builds.

#

Though Revolver will kinda just fill in it's place

#

hard to compete and whatnot

median crow
#

I've been thammer/flamer exclusively since then probably for over 215+ missions

median crow
#

As long as someone can be bothered to bring a Civil War musket to shoot snipers I will kill everything else in the game with my hands

median zenith
median crow
median zenith
#

do you go full meme stealth bonk? or something else

median crow
#

nope

#

chastise with momentum

ripe quest
#

Ah, the classic

median crow
#

the secret sauce

safe tulip
#

what blessings should i get on this

median crow
#

fuck if only pen and mob were swapped

#

again. fuck mobility

median zenith
#

do you go knives or grenades?

median crow
#

already going to cost you a reroll to fix HC I

safe tulip
#

i use stun nades

median crow
#

bump it to purple and see what you get

polar nexus
primal grail
#

pain

median crow
median zenith
#

this must have been a shop item

median crow
#

from grey

median zenith
#

surely

median crow
#

I had to check the character I was on

median zenith
#

unfortunate

safe tulip
#

bad?

surreal marlin
#

dude thats a good rolll

median zenith
#

i would keep if you have nothing else and you want to try to gun for a bit

safe tulip
#

i got this one too , are defenses important with this sword version? ive never used this one

copper hawk
#

Noh

#

Defenses is the dumpstat

surreal marlin
safe tulip
#

ok awesome

median crow
#

fuck dude. she is really fucking you with these blessings

#

unless that's from shop fresh

#

honestly i dont really like H sword

#

but I'm a hammer fanatic so

light holly
#

Hsword is prettyy goood, when you get the right blessings

safe tulip
#

ok thx

median crow
#

demonhost losing 3/5 of hp bar before she can even break her cuffs is too good to not use

safe tulip
# safe tulip

i have a tier 4 handcannon on my other revolver , bad roll tho

#

was a match reward

median crow
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imagine being some nasty-ass daemon chilling in the Immaterium for 15k years trying to get a deal to get to realspace, and after generations of plotting you manage to get yourself not only worshipped, but summoned straight there by some Nurgle idiots. You even got a host given to you so you can stay manifested in realspace without using up all your energy. Now you just have to break the will of this shitty imperial citizen and you can go HAM on people as much as you want. You see the group of Rejects getting closer, you're CACKLING inside that host. Then the Zealot Chastises over to you and banishes your Slim Jim-looking ass back to Hell in two left -> right swings of his little hammer.

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case in point why I'll never swap off

rotund locust
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500 hours into the game I just ran my first mission with a flamer ๐Ÿ™‚ Question - when you spam LMB for the flame burst, does it slow down your mousespeed?

calm hemlock
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yes it does

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I find that I have to get into a rhythm with the m1 spam so I know when to look at the next target

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trying to do the slow aim messed me up for a long time

hollow mantle
digital yacht
hollow mantle
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You might need deathblow too for that breakpoint as well though. I'm not sure what the exact numbers you need are without it

coarse birch
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@south folio yeah you were right the dogs push back does still exist i just had it knock me back into a trapper shot

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this game has the best mechanics

royal vortex
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lmao

hollow mantle
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The dogs are so much better than they used to be

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The push timing is wacky it's so big

worldly bramble
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Thanks, Emperor. I guess.

coarse birch
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shredder auto pistol is actually somewhat enjoyable now that its not dumb af

digital yacht
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bring back old shredder