It's Fucking annoying tbh
#zealot-class
sharp zodiac
mystic ether
In spots like America, you really do have the more prevailing problem of well, Americans.
sharp zodiac
I'd rather just live in the Everglades if I had to be somewhere
Least the animals are chill
sterile stone
Die to mosquitos in the everglades
gray ice
"MasK oFF Is My RiGhtS"
sterile stone
Malaria go crazy
lusty turtle
My mans Skelly got bad rng.
you got no idea, literally one in a million 
mystic ether
Like straight the fuck up making it significantly worse with its public health practices and overall resistance to comprehensive basic fucking education.
lusty turtle
gone and got myself PPFE, a disease that nobody knows what it is or how it works
mystic ether
Which more of a generational policy harm than individual.
sterile stone
Bro really picked the hardest difficulty in life.
gray ice
More like it picked him
gray ice
If you're gonna bait at least be good at it
mystic ether
People play everything
spare dome
No that's the standard take I think. Momentum is 20/20 for damage and attack speed at its best. Martyrdom only hits 20% attack speed when you're down five wounds and at the cost of an extra node.
royal vortex
worst fisherman ever
sterile stone
Now I remember why I barely come in here anymore.
You really do see some of the most hot dog water tier takes in here.
gray ice
The flounder are unamused with the small amount of bait
quaint verge
That's a VT2 zealot cult follower if I've ever seen one 
mystic ether
The flounder are unamused with the small amount of bait
Just talk shit about combat knives.
gray ice
You really do see some of the most hot dog water tier takes in here.
Negative brain activity detected
quaint verge
You really do see some of the most hot dog water tier takes in here.
Stan lvl hotdogs
autumn vector
Zealot Knife bad.
lusty turtle
donsly can you like
mystic ether
Knife bad.
Listen here fucktwit.
lusty turtle
go bait in a different server
gray ice
IS THAT A BLEED KNIFE
lusty turtle
ur garbage at it, we have like, a minimum requirement of effort
sharp zodiac
Guys wanna see a jellyfish cat
mystic ether
IS THAT A BLEED KNIFE
Damn right
sterile stone
Guys wanna see a jellyfish cat
I mean go for it.
autumn vector
Damn right
You atleast use uncanny with your bleed knife right?
royal vortex
vacuum capsule
gray ice
Guys wanna see a jellyfish cat
Is it real
quaint verge
It's too early.
sharp zodiac
Is it real
No
mystic ether
You atleast use uncanny with your bleed knife right?
Riposte preferably.
native cargo
lusty turtle
Is it real
chat is this real
native cargo
sharp zodiac
Rat yoy fuck
mystic ether
But uncanny is just free.
sharp zodiac
RAT
left iron
sharp zodiac
WHY
native cargo
Luna you shoulda posted sooner
sterile stone
I won't lie to you doc
sharp zodiac
I WAS FINDING IT
quaint verge
You atleast use uncanny with your bleed knife right?
It's backstab
sterile stone
I was expecting something weird
sharp zodiac
I'll go discover one just for you
sterile stone
But I wasnt' expecting that
native cargo
LUNA YOU KNOW IM LURKING AND GONNA LOOK STUFF UP FAST
mystic ether
It's backstab
One of them is. Correction. Two.
lusty turtle
same
mystic ether
One is on vet so it doesn't even count.
native cargo
oh god
quaint verge
vacuum capsule
gray ice
LUNA YOU KNOW IM LURKING AND GONNA LOOK STUFF UP FAST
Get out of my window
sharp zodiac
LUNA YOU KNOW IM LURKING AND GONNA LOOK STUFF UP FAST
RABID
left iron
mystic ether
The other is being saved as blessing fodder unless I get a weaker knife.
gray ice
You're scaring my cat
native cargo
Get out of my window
mystic ether
And I will continue to set up horde backstabbing as I please/will.
native cargo
Our doom
sharp zodiac
Spy TF2
mystic ether
You cannot stop me batman.
olive raven
What the fuck?
open pollen
https://tenor.com/view/cheese-and-crackers-easy-cheese-gif-25799332
This dude's brain = exploded.
native cargo
https://tenor.com/view/cheese-and-crackers-easy-cheese-gif-25799332
very much noodle legs
olive raven
@gray ice I’m somehow too normal for this chat, help
gray ice
<@206267213303382017> I’m somehow too normal for this chat, help
Look you can lie about a lot of things but not that
frosty herald
https://tenor.com/view/cheese-and-crackers-easy-cheese-gif-25799332
Bros mind got blown
autumn vector
Every bottle you cosume is probably a month of your life
mystic ether
Spray cheese...man. nah.
mystic ether
Goofy movie fucked me up forever with that
sterile stone
Spray cheese go hard with some crackers bro
mystic ether
You can't save it
native cargo
The mallet that saved ballin gate
olive raven
Look you can lie about a lot of things but not that
Nah, I ain’t lying
mystic ether
I just ut off pieces of cheese.
olive raven
I could never lie about that
mystic ether
That's it
olive raven
I know I’m a weird mf but
mystic ether
Thats all I have to do.
quaint verge
Spray cheese go hard with some crackers bro
So you spray it on people, gotcha
open pollen
We chose the Nurgle route in my country.
mystic ether
What spray cheese costs less than a block of fuck all cheddar?
sterile stone
So you spray it on people, gotcha
https://tenor.com/view/lol-bust-out-laughing-laughing-hysterically-jokes-fall-off-chair-gif-14694083
mystic ether
Whomzsts?
lusty turtle
spray cheese is awful
autumn vector
I think it was a fevor dream
mystic ether
:c
sterile stone
What spray cheese costs less than a block of fuck all cheddar?
Spray cheese is like
autumn vector
as I cant find it
sterile stone
$3
open pollen
You really do see some of the most hot dog water tier takes in here.
That's part of the fun.
mystic ether
Maybe shit just different where I'm at.
autumn vector
i used to put it on tabasco cheeze its
mystic ether
Spray always been up compared to like cheese cuts or blocks.
native cargo
mystic ether
Cigarettes for this cheap as fuck brand go for 10 dollars now.
quaint verge
That's part of the fun.
mystic ether
Better off just buying a gram of whatever the fuck weed than that.
autumn vector
if there was a cheese wiz zealot build what would it be?
sharp zodiac
Cheese what
mystic ether
if there was a cheese wiz zealot build what would it be?
Anything with evis and heavy sword.
sharp zodiac
Wizard?
gray ice
Ritz cracker throwing knives
quaint verge
Marty DR
north sedge
Flamer that shoots cheese wiz obviously
buoyant sleet
ah yes, zealot chat, always a place of intelligent and nuanced discussion related to the video game Warhammer 40k: Darktide
verbal thunder
They should just remove the knives and add a 3rd grenade, imo
open pollen
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/117525970771...
I mean, I'd eat that.
mystic ether
They should just remove the knives and add a 3rd grenade, imo
Drink your legs.
Now.
verbal thunder
Nay
autumn vector
They should just remove the knives and add a 3rd grenade, imo
Spody knife
they should add spody knife
verbal thunder
Auric damn aint a place to be throwing legos at my enemies broskie
open pollen
They should just remove the knives and add a 3rd grenade, imo
I disagree. I love the knives. They've helped me out of a lot of situations where I'm being hosed by a gunner and I've got no ammo to retaliate.
hushed agate
Its a good combo with flamer
native cargo
Pretty good dog frog
mystic ether
Auric damn aint a place to be throwing legos at my enemies broskie
I'll do it. Was fine when I did
north sedge
Stepping on legos hurts alot
frosty herald
Me eating the most processed meal imaginable
verbal thunder
Also thats a good argument, flamer does kinda need them
Maybe buff em then
Punchthrough, more damage
autumn vector
easy to count calories when meal is processed
north sedge
Pretty good dog frog
Oh i bet @hushed knoll would love this
hushed agate
Also thats a good argument, flamer does kinda need them
Thanks i know im spectacular
mint brook
hard for you guys to believe
quaint verge
Me eating the most processed meal imaginable
This?
#zealot-class message
native cargo
Oh i bet <@399244889109561364> would love this
yaes C:
left iron
verbal thunder
Can I at least have the 15% toughness on dodge node moved to the center or the left
Please dad
autumn vector
is gud node
mystic ether
I am not your father. No.
mint brook
but my friend told me to try darktide crafting again .... i feel like he is a dev:
verbal thunder
He might be
autumn vector
bro
mint brook
what the fuck are those stats
autumn vector
hadron
verbal thunder
Now roll it
verbal thunder
And pray it doesnt get bricked
autumn vector
out of that
frosty herald
This?
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/117525...
Yes
mint brook
out of that
she is yeah
mystic ether
but my friend told me to try darktide crafting again .... i feel like he is a de...
Do it.
autumn vector
brickdron is ready
open pollen
Whenever I feel bad about the zealot tree, I look at Psyker's tree and feel better.
verbal thunder
Zealot tree is good, just weird af
mystic ether
PLACE YOUR BETS
verbal thunder
It took me forever to dial this class in
open pollen
SPIN. THAT. TECHPRIEST!
autumn vector
Whenever I feel bad about the zealot tree, I look at Psyker's tree and feel bett...
I'm legit fucking jealous of vet blitz node s
sterile stone
Mfs about to gamble their house away for a god roll weapon
north sedge
Patch 13 vet tree is the best one
open pollen
I'm legit fucking jealous of vet blitz node s
You jelly of smoke?
mystic ether
i need materials
Ah, you don't have enough money to buy in to the table.
verbal thunder
Krak and Frag are great
mystic ether
Throwing knives is better than smoke. Slow down.
autumn vector
least they can pick whatever they want
verbal thunder
I will say I'd rather have throwing knives over smoke at least...
north sedge
Throwing knife definitely better than smoke
open pollen
Smokes a joke no toke
mystic ether
They're not.
verbal thunder
But thats like saying a scooter is better than being in a wheelchair
mystic ether
I'm not going further than that. I'm not built for it. I just use them regularly.
north sedge
autumn vector
sometimes you just play stealth zealoth vet with smoke grenades in auric and see how quickly you can make your team fail from not helping them at all and smoking their vision constantly
its fine
frosty herald
I eat that food paste from fallout 4 you already know
mystic ether
sometimes you just play stealth ~~zealoth~~ vet with smoke grenades in auric an...
Most of the time they just die before I have anything to do with anything and then I clutch or fuck up.
open pollen
I feel like smoke's okay-ish if you're like, a melee vet and you are dropping it at your feet. But I wanted CSGO smokes where I do like, crowd control stuff. Downside to that is it pissess your team off something fierce when the gunners they're targeting suddenly ninja vanish
mystic ether
Then somehow I get blamed even though my name is showing up for every specialist in the specialist gauntlet somehow.
north sedge
Last time i had a smoke vet they just threw them at our feet repeatedly during the finale so we couldn't see shit
verbal thunder
Last time I had a smoke vet they ran off, died, and left the game
mystic ether
I feel like smoke's okay-ish if you're like, a melee vet and you are dropping it...
You're taking a selfish, mostly not as immediately effective tool for a very specific function that's already limited in its reach and output. You literally have to force smokes to matter by the time they've already been off for a second or you've done nothing.
autumn vector
whatever regardless of how effective smokes or knives are having your nodes look like this is betta than this
open pollen
You're taking a selfish, mostly not as immediately effective tool for a very spe...
Wait, I thought you were pro smoke?
verbal thunder
Just get cooldown reduction talents and stealth with melee vet
autumn vector
mystic ether
Otherwise you're just literally blowing smoke and doing nothing with it. Then compounding the vision issues people get.
mystic ether
Wait, I thought you were pro smoke?
You think I won't criticize my tools?
autumn vector
cause sometimes I just want to be able to pick what blitz I want
open pollen
whatever regardless of how effective smokes or knives are having your nodes look...
For sure, no arguments here
open pollen
You think I won't criticize my tools?
Fair enough
gray ice
<a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
Tell us cat stare enthusiast finnlaidicuye lyfe sheets how does this milestone make you feel?
verbal thunder
I have like 0 points getting no stun heavy attacks and the 15% dodge on toughness perks
(I consider both damn near mandatory)
left iron
Tell us cat stare enthusiast finnlaidicuye lyfe sheets how does this milestone m...
I must reach 700 by the end of this month somehow
I need controversial takes in the chat, stat
mystic ether
Honestly, what's fucked up. I genuinely see stun grenades in the same vein as smoke grenades. Both are duds beyond their brief enemy effect.
gray ice
Crit hammer OP
open pollen
I am just glad we've got options. Psykers... they only have like 20 blue nodes.
verbal thunder
The boltgun on Zealot is a sub par weapon because it's just a revolver with ungodly amounts of sway.
hot take delivered
left iron
mystic ether
If you're not doing anything, the best you can hope for is to just buy time for another action.
autumn vector
I am just glad we've got options. Psykers... they only have like 20 blue nodes.
I mean the way their tree is shaped tho and how good some of those nodes are
its kind of easy to get what you want
native cargo
I must reach 700 by the end of this month somehow
me and you when we scuba divin' and we find Atlantis
left iron
Thats not controversial
verbal thunder
What other hot takes do I have...
left iron
verbal thunder
The shotguns objectively suck donkey
open pollen
Honestly, what's fucked up. I genuinely see stun grenades in the same vein as sm...
Knives > Stun imo. None better than combustion nades, of course, but the burst potential of knives is greater than the stuns meager stun.
mystic ether
What other hot takes do I have...
Pinging isn't good because it takes too long to ping enemies .moving all the time.
verbal thunder
And desperately need a buff
native cargo
Have a bear being americanized
autumn vector
Hot take, knife vet is a actively choosing to harm you team's chance of success.
verbal thunder
^ True tho
native cargo
or...well whatever-ized
mystic ether
Hot take, knife vet is a actively choosing to harm you team's chance of success.
Cold take, that vet isn't strong enough and you're hurting over it.
open pollen
I mean the way their tree is shaped tho and how good some of those nodes are
Aye, and that's not good. I want so many good nodes, I have to make a hard choice or two.
verbal thunder
At least rev it up chainsaw vet will clear hordes
mystic ether
You will never recover.
verbal thunder
Er
Chainsaw zealot
He'll zip around like he's tweaking on cocaine like knife zealot
But he kills stuff at least
native cargo
I sure do love me perfect strike on me hswards
mystic ether
Knife vet isn't the worst thing but I really would rather do that kind of thing on zealot.
open pollen
Have a bear being americanized
Gonna have to drink something like this bear now. Thanks
mystic ether
It's actually harder on the execution by comparison.
left iron
Sorry i was in the kitchen
autumn vector
Cold take, that vet isn't strong enough and you're hurting over it.
Huh? Vet is plenty strong, Voc is probably one of the best abilities in the game, and they have so much free damage and dr vet is perfectly fine
zealot is to
verbal thunder
Knife encourages bad behavior mid game
autumn vector
all classes are fine
left iron
open pollen
Knife vet isn't the worst thing but I really would rather do that kind of thing ...
Whenever I see knife on vet or psyker, I assume they're primarily using it for repositioning.
mystic ether
Knife encourages bad behavior mid game
No, poor fundamentals make the inspired risk taking worse.
verbal thunder
Removing the knife would visibly improve the game experience of most players
(also these are my hot takes)
autumn vector
Oh i see nevermind you said "that" vet
verbal thunder
Fueling our cat here
autumn vector
oof
mystic ether
Without that base for your play, you are straight up more dangerous trying to go for things than going slower.
verbal thunder
Tbh just use rev it up chainsword then
mystic ether
Huh? Vet is plenty strong, Voc is probably one of the best abilities in the game...
Yeah np I meant that veteran player specifically.
left iron
Chord
verbal thunder
Does basically same job imo
mystic ether
I'd also never take voc on knife vet.
verbal thunder
Just better
mystic ether
It's probably fine but I hate voc so. :^>
open pollen
I feel knife is victim of dunning-kreugar players. Folks who think they're pro AF but really they am ASS.
autumn vector
The hidden strength of knife is that it effects your total mobility score, which I would bet 90% of players dont realize that both mob scores effect your movement speeds
at the same time
mystic ether
I feel knife is victim of dunning-kreugar players. Folks who think they're pro A...
Sort of.
naive star
Sweet mission offer, needed both of those blessings
verbal thunder
Nice, grats
autumn vector
eh uncanny is strong, but I would take the level 4
naive star
Too bad can only take one, Precog i guess
autumn vector
like precog higher ranked and hunt for another uncanny
olive raven
Max Precog is better, I roll uncanny pre often on knives tbh
verbal thunder
Just buy green knives off the market
mystic ether
Knife when you're genuinely trying to push more out of it is going require you to be more active with your decisions and mobile with your opportunities.
There are more people that are completely wrapped up in playing with safe builds that they cannot play risky.
verbal thunder
Upgrade once
naive star
Was my first Hi-Intensity Damnation, so feels nice when getting rewarded too
mystic ether
They've never taken enough risks to learn.
verbal thunder
I think its just positionally inferior for your team
mystic ether
And also, as a knife person, you can just do better with a different weapon, still play risky and get more efficiency completed.
verbal thunder
You could be with them and clearing, covering an angle for your shooters
open pollen
Sort of.
Everyone I talk to dissess mobility HARD. I don't know if this is because they only see movement linearly or if they simply consider it the weakest link in the chain and not worth sacrificing anything else. Which means they hate mobility more than stagger/impact which is funny to me.
sharp zodiac
Yeah so I'm fucking dumb
verbal thunder
Or you could be wibble woobling out in the distance doing fuck all
mystic ether
I think its just positionally inferior for your team
I'll say it: most people are their own positional opposition.
Strictly from my pub auric experience.
sharp zodiac
Turns out there was a Wendy's on a right turn that I could've WALKED to
I didn't even need to order
autumn vector
I would make the argument here on knife that alot of people played it when 75% dr build was a thing during the closed and early beta "aka" most of last year and that the reason so many of us dont use it because we learned what it had to teach in terms of gameplay and decided we liked other weapons better after that knowledge. Like HS 6 or HS 9 or Thammer
verbal thunder
I feel validated, being that I experience this in pub aurics mostly
mystic ether
Fuck it, doubling down: you got a lot of people that use strong builds to compensate for their poor play. The moment they lose those builds in any way or they're slightly less effective they shit themselves.
mystic ether
I'm not even going for throats. I've just seen it so much
verbal thunder
I find it hard to make this class work for me outside of 1 or 2 very specific builds
Lol its fine I know where I am and I'm relatively okay with it
mystic ether
Dead ass seeing peoples gear, God rolls and all and they can't manage a mixed horde for shit.
verbal thunder
Mind you, 'Getting it to work' for me is a higher standard than others
mystic ether
Let alone, you know, change targets that matter, ping, fucking actually support each other as necessary, etc.
verbal thunder
Giving 150% more than the average player in that slot is what I consider 'working'
open pollen
Fuck it, doubling down: you got a lot of people that use strong builds to compen...
Isn't this Tide games in a shellnut though? Only masochists play them to get good, and they're off doing like, true solo challenge runs and junk. I am not sure how one would otherwise seperate the skill of the player from the power of the build?
verbal thunder
Via horde clear, clearing specials, threat management, etc
I found I can't do that if I don't take the heavy attack doesnt stun talent, and the dodge 15% toughness talent
I get kicked around without those two too easily
mystic ether
Isn't this Tide games in a shellnut though? Only masochists play them to get goo...
You don't need to be a masochist to enjoy builds and playstyles that inspire more active decision making let alone functional risk taking.
So many builds for veteran for example revolve around just being so fucking terrified of meaningless dmg that you really do got people that cannot life without voc.
Straight up.
verbal thunder
Masochists play Vermintide 2 on Cataclysm
autumn vector
Let alone, you know, change targets that matter, ping, fucking actually support ...
I disagree with the ping bit, if I can ping it I can generally kill it, I dont ping often unless I cant imedately remove it from the board. TBh supporting your team in pugs seems to be basically, kill every special before they get a chance to kill your pugs.
verbal thunder
Darktide is a considerably more fair game
mystic ether
Masochists play Vermintide 2 on Cataclysm
It's not that bad. :y
verbal thunder
lol
I respect it but damn, idk how yall do it
I have trouble with legend on VT2, but I can clear auric damn consistently on darktide
Its those damn slave rats in vt2
Instantly poke me to death
vapid mirage
Vt2 cata is chill
ornate bone
Vermintide is a bit tricky
native cargo
Gonna have to drink something like this bear now. Thanks
Welcome :3
mystic ether
I disagree with the ping bit, if I can ping it I can generally kill it, I dont p...
In the most vague way, yes. I'm just saying that for a lot of pubs I've played in for aurics the majority of failures was mostly odf the backs of people not realizing they didn't have the ability to barrel into a pocket horde and return in time to not get sectioned off by the rest of the huge horde.
Small example, but you definitely ought to know better at that point running aurics not to do that unless you actually will clear it.
I ping to just keep track of something if it isn't already lilled by me or something else.
ornate bone
You can't sprint away from shit, most classes can't spam guns and the way the game handles ping delays shit like blocking and dodging
verbal thunder
I can handle most every other threat in VT2, but the basic horde units obliterate my hp bar
native cargo
Turns out there was a Wendy's on a right turn that I could've WALKED to
Play mgs and you will have the situational awareness and the comedic timing to never have to order a burger again
quaint verge
vt2 cata is fun
mystic ether
So many relevant enemies that can end up in clusterfucks just not getting marked.
verbal thunder
Time to play the elf and just spam hagbane
verbal thunder
ornate bone
I think VT2 would be instantly better if I wanted to play outside of my own immediate vicinity and didn't get slapped by every single slaverat through my block because "well, actually you didn't send the block information to the server in time"
mystic ether
People aren't shy about pinging. Let alone meaningful pings.
ornate bone
So imagine having to block a fifth of a second earlier
naive star
I felt no reason to go above Legen in VT2 as the game didnt reward it in anyway
mystic ether
I think VT2 would be instantly better if I wanted to play outside of my own imme...
You gotta be better. No shade
verbal thunder
Yeah thats what keeps getting me
native cargo
autumn vector
15 ragers spawn
Pskyer: PING. PING. PING. PING. PING. PING. PING. PING. PING. PING.
verbal thunder
Instant gibbed by slave rats with sticks
autumn vector
Down.
ornate bone
Darktide I just block at any point before the attack hits and the magic happens
verbal thunder
Darktide the npcs attack with proper telegraphs and wind ups
sharp zodiac
Play mgs and you will have the situational awareness and the comedic timing to n...
:0
ornate bone
The servers are ass, but Fatshark did make it so that I don't get utterly fucked by ping and I'm forever thankful for that
sharp zodiac
Yeah
fading vale
isn't temp health really dumb or something
ornate bone
Yep
mystic ether
isn't temp health really dumb or something
Very
ornate bone
It's toughness but for your health
verbal thunder
Its one reason, that and the toughness system, I really prefer darktide
quaint verge
isn't temp health really dumb or something
dummy stupid
royal vortex
i like vt2 but i also can't be assed to get a bunch of characters to level 30 again so i can't really pick it up more than once in a blue moon with friends
mystic ether
It doesn't work like toughness but it is your health generator. And ideally, any build that's spinning well enough will be able to Gen temp hp easily.
ornate bone
And you can trade hits to recharge your ability, so mercenary can shout for THP, eat a hit and reduce the cooldown to shout again
mystic ether
Barring like elite/special killer builds with headshot generation for thp
quaint verge
i like vt2 but i also can't be assed to get a bunch of characters to level 30 ag...
want another carry? 
mystic ether
You need to be more consistent for that.
verbal thunder
Longbow Keri my beloved
royal vortex
want another carry? <a:marollslo:1155253815042384003>
ornate bone
Some people also eat overheads on classes that can to recharge the ability
royal vortex
maybe one day
ornate bone
It's a very interesting mechanic and I love the game to death, but holy shit that ping issue pisses me the fuck off
mystic ether
Im.not saying like spam ping lol
left iron
Josho will never play with me again
ornate bone
I play like I play in Darktide when I'm on something like 30 or 40 ping
verbal thunder
We agree on that a hella lot
mystic ether
#_#
quaint verge
maybe one day
just say so, then i'll redownload
ornate bone
But on 200 ping, Darktide is perfectly playable aside from a wonky light attack animation on two
And Vermintide is downright impossible
royal vortex
Josho will never play with me again <a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
lmfao
fading vale
200 ping darktide feels like ass, it was much worse before patch 13 though
mystic ether
When I lag in this game it's fucked but with vt2 I usually just d/c
vapid mirage
Eh, I played 300 ping cata
ornate bone
I mean, it's not great great, but you at least can protect yourself
fading vale
high ping DT pre patch 13, like half the animations wouldnt work
ornate bone
The way I noticed, if you block in DT with 200 ping it has the same effect as 30
verbal thunder
I just have good internet and play all my games at 20 ping
vapid mirage
Just use normal dodge/block pattern
ornate bone
Oh, the animations are bad, but at least the game recognizes what you're trying to do in the end
quaint verge
Josho will never play with me again <a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
good times
fading vale
it's easier on high ping if you use a braindead weapon but god using a hammer on high ping makes me want to die sometimes
ornate bone
If an enemy attacks you from behind, you can block it just before it connects and it'll be a block at 30 or 200 ping
fading vale
plus you don't really need to block in DT so
ashen steeple
Is the knife the only good option for fast single target stuff?
ornate bone
On Vermintide it's a guaranteed hit at 200 ping unless you can compensate for the ping number
And at that point you need to be basically inhuman
royal vortex
it's easier on high ping if you use a braindead weapon but god using a hammer on...
my favorite is when the game starts queuing up the wrong attack because of high ping
and its like bro pls
mystic ether
Is the knife the only good option for fast single target stuff?
You can go faster.
And hit other targets at the same time.
If you care about that
fading vale
Is the knife the only good option for fast single target stuff?
it depends if you mean fast as in crackhead swing speed
autumn vector
Is the knife the only good option for fast single target stuff?
HS6 or HS9 are decent vs anything that isnt carapace, still have great horde clear and decent movespeed
royal vortex
my favorite zealot chat post of all time is the dude who posted a taxe and was like "now i can be the ultimate cracklot"
cracklot is the most unflattering build name ive ever heard of
ornate bone
I remember when my wifi had these god-awful moments in Darktide and the packet loss would make me keep walking towards places, or just stand still and eat hits
autumn vector
fuck taxes
ripe quest
Is the knife the only good option for fast single target stuff?
Caxe, Chainsword and Chaxe, Thammer can get fast but it's a different type of it.
native cargo
fuck taxes
ornate bone
It basically saved my last action and put it on repeat until I could connect properly again
left iron
Chord
ashen steeple
Alright many thx, trying to do a stupid fencing build but idk what weapons would match
mental coral
Josho will never play with me again <a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
where necromancer madge
left iron
where necromancer madge
This was a long time ago
mental coral
oh
ornate bone
Alright many thx, trying to do a stupid fencing build but idk what weapons would...
Psyker
ripe quest
HS6 or HS9 are decent vs anything that isnt carapace, still have great horde cle...
All three are good
mystic ether
Alright many thx, trying to do a stupid fencing build but idk what weapons would...
I guess if you're looking for what flavor the closest you get is just heavy swords
Otherwise, make psyker. They got three sabers.
ripe quest
Hsword VII has some stuff over the VI and vice versa
ashen steeple
HS6 or HS9 are decent vs anything that isnt carapace, still have great horde cle...
And which hs is best for like single target?
ornate bone
Though to Vermintide's credit
mental coral
whats HS7 good for
ornate bone
I never saw shit like this https://medal.tv/pt/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1nQNpmFnq7o2IX/ALwOVmyPfSdq?invite=cr-MSxyeGksMTkwNTkwNTA4LA
ripe quest
And which hs is best for like single target?
All three have the same cara performance and the VII and VI have the best heavies of the three for single target.
fading vale
caxe, hsword, crusher, chaxe, evis can all be fast and great single target but there are ups and downs, hammer also great single target but less good at clearing packs quickly but better for deleting unyielding and what not
verbal thunder
How does Hsword compare to Heavy Eviscerator or Hammer on single target damage?
ripe quest
whats HS7 good for
Slightly better at Dreg Ragers than the VI.
mental coral
🤔
agile pivot
I never saw shit like this https://medal.tv/pt/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/cl...
this shit is so annoying
ashen steeple
All three have the same cara performance and the VII and VI have the best heavie...
So its just preference between the hs7 and 6?
agile pivot
and it happens ALL the time
verbal thunder
Yknow what, I would also like opinions on its horde clear
Why not
What do we think about the heavy sword lads
ripe quest
So its just preference between the hs7 and 6?
The movesets are different but are just about exactly the same per each move. See which one you like more yeah.
fading vale
hsword can one shot multiple of every elite that isn't an ogryn, mauler, or flak rager, I think you can one shot flak ragers with F though
agile pivot
this game needs to let me queue inputs during swaps
ornate bone
I want them to eventually work on the input priority so that swapping weapons goes above pretty much everything else
lean lark
you can oneshot flak ragers with a regular crit weakspot
verbal thunder
Nice
lean lark
chastise lets you kill them with a bodyshot crit i think?
ornate bone
As in swapping weapons canceling most, if not all, other actions you are doing at the moment, such as aiming or pushing
fading vale
does anyone know where i can find hitmass for enemies
gameslantern actually has it
autumn vector
And which hs is best for like single target?
Both HS6 and HS9 have good strike down. I feel like HS6 wins just because it can heavy spam oneshot ragers
mental coral
herm
verbal thunder
Ball, derpy
lean lark
hs6 is indeed the best hsword
verbal thunder
Go forth and ball
ornate bone
Nothing sucks more than trying to do a push attack and you keep shooting your gun at the crowd instead
fading vale
yeah input priority is kind of fucked up and it varies depending on which weapon and what attack
autumn vector
at one point hs9 more competive but after the rampage fix
i think hs6 takes it no question
royal vortex
gameslantern actually has it
ty
mental coral
Idk hs9 has like pure horiztonal heavies which with deathblow makes it chop heads off real nice
fading vale
like if you click lmb on a revolver or shotgun it will override the weapon swap
verbal thunder
At least its not extra snipers
royal vortex
i was gonna update the crusher guide because crab said activated l1/push attack into bruisers is good because u run out of cleave really fast otherwise
and i had not considered that at all
fading vale
and there are certain things that lock you out of weapon swap and eat the inputs
mental coral
I still haven't rolled a crusher yet
too many things to roll
and not enough mats to roll with
myeh
autumn vector
I think evis in general seems to enjoy eating inputs
royal vortex
the crusher is one of the easier weapons to roll because it has the most usable damage perks
and a super small blessing pool
verbal thunder
How does crusher compare to T-hammer damage wise?
ripe quest
does anyone know where i can find hitmass for enemies
gameslanterns are accurate
lean lark
Idk hs9 has like pure horiztonal heavies which with deathblow makes it chop head...
the h2 on the hs6 has a good horizontal
autumn vector
it wont one shot a dh
mental coral
idk I tried the h2 on hs6 and its like purely diagonal
verbal thunder
Ideally we dont engage the dh anyway around here
ripe quest
though numbers may differ on a weapon by weapon basis since some have hitmass mods for certain armor types
royal vortex
How does crusher compare to T-hammer damage wise?
significantly worse boss performance, not as good vs carapace, decent performance otherwise
verbal thunder
I only care that it competes on boss damage
autumn vector
think baseball bat
verbal thunder
Ah, darn
royal vortex
much less reliant on activated attacks and better CC while doing it
autumn vector
but it still quite good
verbal thunder
How is Hsword on boss damage?
fading vale
hammer wins on one shots but loses on general performance vs elites, but hammer absolutely destroys unyielding
ripe quest
the h2 on the hs6 has a good horizontal
the hitbox on it is a little goofy tbf
autumn vector
boss damage probably goes to thammer in general but ive heard the old chain axe is decent
royal vortex
both of them have similar performance vs bulwarks, i think a +unyielding crusher might win out on it
but only marginally
lean lark
rashad stealth is a good contender for boss damage
verbal thunder
Wtb power sword for vet
lean lark
pls nerf 200% unyielding dmg
autumn vector
thats a good point
upper pollen
boss damage probably goes to thammer in general but ive heard the old chain axe ...
The MK4 does not outdamage a bonk stick on bosses, but it does have awesome mobility and the lmb spam is awesome.
autumn vector
if you are doing pugs I dont think you can go wrong with bonk
urban dagger
can shocking stuff glitch out? i swear im blasting hordes of 40+ on heresay/ damnation but they're not counting
ripe quest
boss damage probably goes to thammer in general but ive heard the old chain axe ...
New Chaxe is better for Flak bosses, not Unyielding.
solar pine
best blessings for a boss destroying crucis thammer?
mystic ether
rashad stealth is a good contender for boss damage
👀
lean lark
best blessings for a boss destroying crucis thammer?
slaught thrust
mystic ether
lean lark
headtaker thrust works too
way easier to get to max
so its like kindof a tie between hdeataker slaught
ripe quest
rashad stealth is a good contender for boss damage
Same with Knife in a fun goofy fact. Fury of the Faithful knife can hit 10k on bosses per hit.
mystic ether
Shroudfield crucis feels great.
mystic ether
Same with Knife in a fun goofy fact. Fury of the Faithful knife can hit 10k on b...
C:
lean lark
Same with Knife in a fun goofy fact. Fury of the Faithful knife can hit 10k on b...
sadly the knife isnt the rashad and cant clear elite and hordes insanely fast because of a single blessing
ripe quest
This is true.
lean lark
rashad hits 4k-ish on regular weakspot vs unyielding though
mystic ether
Put on the knife grift hat
Join me
(Please it's hard and the catering team has done so much for the conferences)
spare dome
ill do it. for the caterers.
mystic ether
(They even put little knives on the ordeauverersers)
Thank you~♡
That'll be 300k dockets for the venue fee. Another 40k for commission fees uh
spare dome
so cheap?
mystic ether
There's at least 3k plasteel donation but you don't have to do it.
spare dome
here's a blank cheque
mystic ether
(actually just a blank sheet of paper)
spare dome
i have uncovered a second method for quickdrawing the bolter
no throwing knives needed
mystic ether
Open clip art?
spare dome
but very annoying to execute
mystic ether
Gimp?
spare dome
if you are missing at least one round in the gun
when you draw it you can mash Reload to skip the draw and start reloading instead
You can then immediately sprint cancel the reload anim
your gun is now out
this is very annoying to do and it has that prerequisite
but there ya go
it works
neon patio
spare dome
fuck yeah
ornate bone
does loner trigger stuff like shield of contempt?
fading vale
loner wouldn't have anything to do with shield of contempt
steel agate
Ah yes the thingy that ensures there’s 2 fake cohesions are on u at all times
Never gave it a shot myself been enjoying corruption aura
ornate bone
rip
celest cave
Usual loner experience:
- Run ahead
- Die
- Leave
ember yew
facts
spare dome
there is some insane perceptions regarding loner lol
people seem to legitimately think it's a lynchpin to their builds
spare dome
it doesnt actually affect it
if you are alone you get two coherency regen. in all other instances it does nothing, ie. any time you aren't actually totally out of coherency
steel agate
Dogs will sadly still chase u/trappers will still try to net u
spare dome
and coherency regen is pretty fucking bad
steel agate
The director knows when u separate regardless of loner aura
azure mortar
even if you have the loner aura your character still says stuff like "I'm all alone now", which is a hell of a missed opportunity
(to have him not said anytjhing or something differently)
flat marsh
"I'm all alone now. Good."
nimble fiber
spare dome
solar pine
pain is when you get 3 380 god roll crucis thammers and hadron bricks them all.
ripe quest
https://streamable.com/1ltuha
yee you can do this with Flamer too.
remote ridge
with what should I replace Perfect Strike? Rampage sounds most sensible since I already am crit heavy in talents
spare dome
yee you can do this with Flamer too.
now im wondering if helbore, too
normal wren
Cant use helbore on zealot....
Youd have to use a nade to get that result on veteran
ripe quest
The quick pullout probs only happens with quick throw blitzes.
delicate shadow
yea wouldn't work with a nade
solar gorge
steep flame
prime ridge
Gentlemen
inner crane
Mentlegen
prime ridge
What ranged weapons are worth picking up these days
inner crane
untold carbon
My zealot drip for my 3 most frequently used loadouts
prime ridge
The real drip
untold carbon
Jurgen jumpscare
untold carbon
Yeah? And?
native cargo
making my belly itch
median steeple
oh this is prime bricking material
open pollen
My zealot drip for my 3 most frequently used loadouts
Nice Pai-ai-ai-ai-pants!
(If anyone gets the reference congratz, we're old)
open pollen
Hadron is going to dick me down
Gonna tie ye to the bedpost for sure.
azure mortar
Oh now you got the Ogryn in here with all that noise
Is that an heavy sword on an ogryn ?
open pollen
Oh now you got the Ogryn in here with all that noise
Love the weapons people make. Ogryn sword looks so good!
open pollen
Very soulslike
open pollen
Dark souls of dueling sabers
Same :c
At times, I don't know why FS doesn't have more weapons like that. Then I remember that people want all the weapons to both be unique and accomplish the same handful of tasks and I weep. Godspeed you Swedes.
naive star
Hadron broke it
open pollen
Hmm. How so? I am not a knife user
naive star
Uncanny + Precog is what im supposed to be after
open pollen
Aaah. Thank you for clarifying.
naive star
Both perks also bad
open pollen
Oh yeah, I just thought the blessings had neat synergy
Especially with scourge and the CDR on crit hit talent
azure mortar
apparently precog is better than riposte because crits bad
but yeah the guide that I saw was running riposte as well
north sedge
Precog adds a ton of dmg
open pollen
Isn't there a whole dang meta build focused around critting a lot?
Either way, probably not what they were looking for, and thats alright.
north sedge
And there's just alot of crit available that make riposte less valuable
open pollen
Fair enough. Wouldn't be the first time the power of one blessing dwarfs the potential of all others.
north sedge
I mean, it's just that you can alot of crit elsewhere with talents
open pollen
Aye. I pick up what you dropping
I mean, if you wanted a crit revolver on vet, theres like 5 different ways to do it between combinations of talents and blessings. Makes the 5% crit perk extra silly.
azure mortar
problem is that you're dropping +25% of dmg for 5% chance of crit I think that's more that the issue
not a theorycrafter though
open pollen
Thats what makes it silly. The fact you can get 100% crit without it makes it extra silly.
They should probably do a perk pass at some point.
north sedge
Crit perk in general is not good, passable on like two weapons
open pollen
Aye. Pretty much only seen it myself on Heavy Stubbers to make use of charmed reload on an otherwise low crit career
But there are a lot of dead perks
90% of weapons are just Flakiac
rustic lagoon
Mani-Flak.
open pollen
Both sound good, but flakiac looks better in text
rustic lagoon
Yej.
robust bane
Surprised I haven't seen a knife zealot named Majima yet
open pollen
And its a shame because I love stacking weird stats last the point of usefulness.
frozen ibex
Let me tell you about crit chance perk + double bleed blessings. 
open pollen
And FS's like: 25% damage against most enemies? No worries. Reload speed? Sorry, best I can do is 10%. Crit chance? Get out.
I kinda think it should be 20% across the board.
But I imagine we'd need a more delicate fix
mental coral
does anyone have the uh
the video from that one guy who was mad about having his bleed knife called shit
open pollen
No clue, is joke
robust bane
the video from that one guy who was mad about having his bleed knife called shit
That's like dissing mug rootbeer
open pollen
Come on, was funny!
open pollen
That's like dissing mug rootbeer
ROOTBEER!?
mental coral
idr basically one guy came in, got his knife called shit
and he basically ragequit out of this discord iirc
open pollen
No, rootbeer, no!
mental coral
and then a few months later made a callout post about how good his bleed knife was in auric damnation or wte
but I never watched the vid
robust bane
and he basically ragequit out of this discord iirc
Honestly with how people get rabid over the knife on both sides I'm just like "Let me use what's fun dammit"
open pollen
I would like to see that. I do think we get a little... overzealous.
mental coral
Reddit takes are very special
open pollen
I am anti-knife, only cause if we complain long enough, they will buff it, no?
mental coral
knife is just a B tier weapon tho
robust bane
Reddit is very anti-knife atm
Reddit and good taste are typically antonyms
mental coral
its fine as is just not like amazing
open pollen
knife is just a B tier weapon tho
I like B tier weapons. Intersection of fun and functional
robust bane
I like B tier weapons. Intersection of fun and functional
This
open bramble
EVERYTHING BELOW S MIGHT AS WELL NOT EXIST
robust bane
It's very reliant on the right blessings and the build
mental coral
I'm not a zealot main tho so eh
robust bane
But when you build it right it's a proper killing machine if you know how to dodge
mental coral
all ik is meta rn is like eviscerators hsword and maybe thammer
robust bane
Evis never felf right to me so I just wenr chainsword
For my chargr build
Stealth build is knife, charge I use chainsword as I like to just dodge spam and be a flurry of hits
lyric rain
Turtolsky IX is based
I finally just "got" Turtolsky IX + Kantrael shotty and my lord is it ever a fun time
robust bane
Havent bothered to swap out the perks as tbh I love just critspam
lyric rain
Spent the longest time wondering why they were so popular, then it just clicked. In an extremely violent and satisfying way
frozen ibex
Knife and combat axe S tier.
robust bane
my stealth zealot on the other hand uses this absolutely shitpost of a weapon
frozen ibex
That's pretty sad.
kind idol
OOF
robust bane
Eh, it works good enough, I want higher tier uncanny and more lacerate.
Because I can't make up my mind and go "I'll do both"
lyric rain
party time with Momentum build
vivid hawk
is Pious worth giving up for SC?
frozen ibex
Me 2 current knoifes
azure mortar
I think you can dodge bullet without the perk
robust bane
Yeah but it's more constant
azure mortar
it just makes it so you can do it without stamina
north sedge
Sc doesn't do what it says
native cargo
dodging bullets? try dodging a wrench
robust bane
and it makes charging a gunline all the funnier
robust bane
Sc doesn't do what it says
Guh?
azure mortar
you can't dodge bullet by charging towards the bullets
azure mortar
Try it in the psykhanarium, you need to be perpendicular/running away from bullets
robust bane
Fair enough, still I will die on the hill of Swift certainty.
spare dome
Which means you can dump your stamina into sprinting and pushing even around guns
open bramble
sc doesn't make me invincible to all forms of damage?
north sedge
There is a pin that describes what it actually does with video
vivid hawk
so if I dont have issues with getting shot, no point in SC?
spare dome
10% is not a little
robust bane
sc doesn't make me invincible to all forms of damage?
Is that sarcasm? I cannot comprehend text-based sarcasm.
vivid hawk
having faster/more FoFs with Pious is nice
native cargo
swift certainty is what I pick when I gotta go to the emergency bathroom
Helps a lot
robust bane
Pious is useful when you can afford to get behind an enemy
I play like a rabid sewer rat and go with both
north sedge
Not difficult, especially with weapons that knock dudes around like hammer/crusher
frozen glen
I love knocking dudes around
robust bane
I'm in a weird camp as I can't really enjoy crusher, havent tried hammer tbh.
what I do know is knife goes in, guts come out. And chainsword funny
It makes my ape brain happy
robust bane
https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-fish-guts-knife-subtitles-gif-25768498
exactly
dusky chasm
https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-fish-guts-knife-subtitles-gif-25768498
fish offering wishes? clearly a heretic
native cargo
crusher is bae crusher is luv
vivid hawk
so many good things in zealot tree, can't grab em all 
azure mortar
vivid hawk
Should I give up 10% attack speed for Deullist?
royal vortex
crusher is bae crusher is luv
so true
naive star
Id probably enjoy this game more if i didnt chase these stupid penances
Maybe i should just buy some ingame coin clothes and be done with it
oak yacht
What blessings do I want on an eviscerator?
north sedge
Should I give up 10% attack speed for Deullist?
On what
native cargo
chasing penances is what made me hate life
Play the game and a lot of them will eventually just unlock
north sedge
It's bonus dmg, i don't notice the attack speed loss really
vivid hawk
It's bonus dmg, i don't notice the attack speed loss really
that's what I was thinking, the heavies are fast already
ripe quest
Can make an arguement to keep the attack speed if you like the light spam on the Mk IV
vivid hawk
Can make an arguement to keep the attack speed if you like the light spam on the...
I uh, go full unga bunga and rarely light attack with the mk4
usually only light when it's a lone elite
ripe quest
Oh the light spam is very nice for the IV. Can stun lock a handful of ragers and do solid damage to them.
vivid hawk
thought it could only hit one target at a time, right?
I usually plow through groups of ragers in 2-3 heavies
ripe quest
Yeah, it attacks fast though. Partially why I said the attack speed can be argued for.
vivid hawk
ah, I see now 
open echo
i just had a game where a lvl 38 gunpsyker was taking all the ammo even the the rest of the team had none
lmfao
would fire shots just to grab some
vivid hawk
mk4 also gets a lot of weakspot hits, have over 500 a game on average
so Duellist would be a noticeable damage bump I think
open echo
i just had a game where a lvl 38 gunpsyker was taking all the ammo even the the ...
tried to votekick twice but it didn't pass
vivid hawk
btw, is it better to special light or special heavy with chaxes?
fading vale
depends if you have thrust and need to hit specific breakpoints I think
vivid hawk
no thrust and a special light with FoF one shots crusher atm
fading vale
did they do the thing with chaxe heavies like evis where it has a bit higher damage on special heavy on one part of the rev
vivid hawk
the heavy does do more damage when I tested it
but the light is quicker and still kills the thing I'm hitting
fading vale
if you don't need to hit a specific BP with thrust I don't think it matters, IIRC you can one shot crushers with cara (and maybe elites) and thrust without chastise
vivid hawk
stacking so many damage buffs that I don't need +cara, so I can bank of Flakiac
fading vale
well it's just for one shots without chastise
vivid hawk
ah
open echo
i just had a game where a lvl 38 gunpsyker was taking all the ammo even the the ...
ok thier trolling, they are spamming e on me to revive me and stop reviving me so none can get me up
ember yew
stacking so many damage buffs that I don't need +cara, so I can bank of Flakiac
thats some gae rolls
i want one too
open echo
ok thier trolling, they are spamming e on me to revive me and stop reviving me s...
"missclick"
ripe quest
if you don't need to hit a specific BP with thrust I don't think it matters, IIR...
Neither need an ult or Martyr
I don't even think the XII needs thrust for it
fading vale
Neither need an ult or Martyr
I mean if you don't have cara and thrust I imagine you do unless you stack up headtaker/slaughterer, I was talking about raw
ripe quest
Ah yeah without Thrust on the Mk IV it's a bit of a challenge
vivid hawk
so what curious are folks running when not stacking martyrdom? have tried a few combos of hp and toughness, but havent quite settled on it either way
fading vale
so what curious are folks running when not stacking martyrdom? have tried a few ...
3 toughness or 2 toughness 1 HP is the general preference, with gunner resist hp and toughness
and 1 sniper res or a corruption res being acceptable
open pollen
I'm in a weird camp as I can't really enjoy crusher, havent tried hammer tbh.
They play very differently imo.
I like high mobility weapons, even if the ecclesiarchy says mobility is dogwater. I got a need for speed!
vivid hawk
3 toughness or 2 toughness 1 HP is the general preference, with gunner resist hp...
was going 2 toughness with 1 HP, with gunner, toughness, and toughness regen
fading vale
I run either setup with gunner resist toughness and ordos
spare dome
speed is the strongest drug
robust bane
They play very differently imo.
I like high mobility weapons, even if the eccle...
Real tbh
fading vale
was going 2 toughness with 1 HP, with gunner, toughness, and toughness regen
toughness regen isn't that useful especially because it disables when you are within 3m of enemies
vivid hawk
toughness regen isn't that useful especially because it disables when you are wi...
true
wasn't sure what else to slap in there
robust bane
I painted my knife red because red goes faster, and the blood doesn't ruin the look
vivid hawk
so it was a placeholder
wheat topaz
wonder why i never see anyone use the iron helm thunder hammer
what makes it different?
robust bane
I got knocked off a ledge and it fucked up my penance
olive raven
is Pious worth giving up for SC?
Its preference fully
spare dome
ironhelm is actually pretty awesome nowadays
robust bane
I got the achievement but Iwanted the portrait smh
spare dome
crucis is for smacking down the biggest of bois, ironhelm is more geared for crowds of shit
wheat topaz
its attack pattern is a con compared to the crucis in my book. But wondering if it s better at single target then? or something idk
oh
spare dome
but if youre somebody who already put shitloads of times into the crucis, then you dont really need the ironhelm
olive raven
Pious is useful when you can afford to get behind an enemy
is not hard if you just uh dodge.
spare dome
you can already work around the crucis' special hit
wheat topaz
i was thinking crucis attack pattern is best for crowds since it got that constant vertical heavy attack
fading vale
ironhelm is solid it's just like, less hammer but easier to use so people like me that get good with hammer prefer the more hammery hammer that takes more practice, also ironhelm has less special damage and a weird overhead
north sedge
Crucis special hits 25% harder
fading vale
ironhelm is more of spam the special heavy with H1 H2
wheat topaz
wait. so its just kinda objectively worse?
royal vortex
the ironhelm feels like a less fluid psword to me
spare dome
nah, different
royal vortex
and psword is pushing it in terms of what i wanna deal with for shitty dodge stats/activations
spare dome
you can sweep the ironhelm special through several targets and then still drop its max damage on an elite in a crowd
and there's no delay from the impact
you can immediately follow up
open pollen
wonder why i never see anyone use the iron helm thunder hammer
Its better for flat horde clear, with its special cleaving through trash, and the 3rd heavy nuke is still quite powerful. Its a bit more complex, but also more versatile.
fading vale
the ironhelm special cleaves through chaff so it's easier to use but also kills more horde enemies
wheat topaz
oh thats good! you cant do that on the crucis
wheat topaz
Its better for flat horde clear, with its special cleaving through trash, and th...
ah i see that clears it up a bit. Got this really good roll and was wondering if i should pursue it
open pollen
I would.
spare dome
hammers fucking suck to roll lol
wheat topaz
hmm what blessings would you recommend?
open pollen
I don't know any wep thats fun to roll
north sedge
Crucis you can still hit stuff in crowds, but takes practice
wheat topaz
hadron casino xd
royal vortex
hm
median zenith
roll to purple
fading vale
I don't know any wep thats fun to roll
crusher is pretty damn easy
wheat topaz
crucis is my usual. but wanted to see what the other has to offer
open pollen
Brutal momentum and thrust are my go-tos whenever I am able but thats just personal preference.
fading vale
Holy brick
spare dome
haha
royal vortex
ouch
spare dome
sprint efficiency tho
wheat topaz
xd
open pollen
Thats rough buddy.
fading vale
that sucks so bad
spare dome
may as well earn thunderous at least
robust bane
Sprint efficiency ain't that bad tbh, it's okay on a melee weapon.
spare dome
maybe one day shock and awe will do something really cool
frozen glen
just cope it with thrust slaughterer
ornate bone
homie got a brick so big that fatshark gonna use it as the new ogryn blitz
north sedge
Thunderous is bad
royal vortex
sprint efficiency is a debuff because i use desperation
open pollen
maybe one day shock and awe will do something really cool
I am neither shocked nor awed, so one can hope
royal vortex
i must never have stamina
fading vale
Thunderous is bad
especially on weapons that want to hit things once
spare dome
i must never have stamina
like i get the joke but idk i just spam out a few pushes and bam
i am now desperate
wheat topaz
what would be the best blessings though? with the iron helm and what im told it seems shock is not really needed xd
open pollen
Thunderous is bad
Its bonus damage for you and your allies, why is bad?
Not best, sure.
royal vortex
thrust/slaught. headtaker is ok if u get stuck with it but its way better on crucis relatively because the ironhelm has no problem stacking slaught ever
spare dome
thrust + headtaker/slaughterer
fading vale
what would be the best blessings though? with the iron helm and what im told it ...
shock and awe does absolutely nothing useful compared to any power blessing, thrust is required and then you take slaughterer or headtaker
wheat topaz
headtaker i get for sure
need blessings though i got like none since i never got many xd
gotta farm some now i guess
open pollen
Does thammer not get bromentum?
open pollen
Darn. I was hunting for that
fading vale
you clearly aren't a hammer detective
open pollen
you clearly aren't a hammer detective
Oh? Because I just solved the case of the missing bromentum.
frozen glen
literally just the ironhelm
royal vortex
killing 4 crushers in one swing would be ridiculous we can't have that in the game
frozen glen
hsword
fading vale
killing 4 crushers in one swing would be ridiculous we can't have that in the ga...
yeah if only there was a weapon that did this
fading vale
literally just the ironhelm
I think they meant the bonk
wheat topaz
roll a few and tried a new one, bit better, wished it was t4 though
native cargo
The knife does that
spare dome
thats a good one
native cargo
can cleave 4 crushers
spare dome
thats a very good one actually
wheat topaz
seems better for sure xd
open pollen
Mighty fine roll. Good for seeing if you like it for sure.
No need for a 100% godroll unless ye fall in love with it
open pollen
Aye. Such a roll is more a trophy
open bramble
yeah if only there was a weapon that did this
i've been playing a lot of ogryn lately, and the class just feels super busted in general. like that shovel is just a small part of it
median zenith
My zealot drip for my 3 most frequently used loadouts
are these pants on the top right some kind of cash shop item?
wheat topaz
No need for a 100% godroll unless ye fall in love with it
thats true.
untold carbon
are these pants on the top right some kind of cash shop item?
Yes
fading vale
the best pants
open pollen
Yeh, those silk?
open bramble
Are those snake-print lol?
wheat topaz
damn i see what you mean, this is really satisfying on a horde
open pollen
Yeah, smooth as buttah!
median zenith
just another day where i want to give fatshark money but they dont want it
open pollen
You mean a day ending in y?
spare dome
still no sexy felinids
north sedge
Its bonus damage for you and your allies, why is bad?
You get a ton of qol and bps with headtaker/slaughterer, thunderous just makes things take longer and you do basically everything worse
open pollen
You get a ton of qol and bps with headtaker/slaughterer, thunderous just makes t...
Aye, it ain't the best. But it ain't thunderstrike or shock and awe
Why is it bad specifically?
north sedge
It's still in the bad pile
Your horde clear goes to shit, along with cleave and stagger
open pollen
Well, I guess your pile is bigger than mine.
north sedge
Lose bps on even basic stuff
And it's not even useful for the thing hammers want to do, kill big stuff
open pollen
I think you are comparing it to meta, and I am comparing it to grey. Its better than nothing, and theres a lot of nothing blessings.
fading vale
yeah if you kill things in one hit it does nothing, and on most armor types it generally doesn't doing anything
open pollen
Better than a mouthful of nails
north sedge
I dunno those nails are looking pretty tasty...
frozen glen
if ur a crucis every hammer is a nail
open pollen
Did you ever play "revenge of the colon"?