light attack high, heavy low
#zealot-class
south cloak
north sedge
nothing about that is normal
south cloak
Guess the God Emperor has blessed me
hushed agate
Block efficiency 
north sedge
that is not the word i would use
sharp zodiac
My niece is over
frozen glen
make her play darktide
olive raven
Guess the God Emperor has blessed me
That is just the Mk2 evis's attack stats 👍
also never use block efficiency
worldly bramble
Oh goodness I think I'm gonna loooooove the new chainaxe.
tight scroll
odd that the heavy has less damage than the light I think
worldly bramble
The light-attack pattern's predictable. The heavy attack is super easy to land and so incredibly satisfying.
tight scroll
I don't use Evis on my Zealot though (I might start though)
south cloak
wait why block efficiency bad?
north sedge
no need for it
tight scroll
I mean it's an okay stat
north sedge
better with dmg to flak/maniac
tight scroll
but DT is a lot more dodge oriented
north sedge
yea
long oasis
block efficiency can also be from curio
tight scroll
and more aggressive stats could help in more tougher situation
north sedge
you shouldn't be blocking much
long oasis
no need to waste a perk on that
north sedge
also dont do that
south cloak
hmm alright...
north sedge
there's a pin with ideal perk/blessings for every weapon
tight scroll
best part about Darktide, at least imho
you don't have to listen to a single one of us lol
if you can make it work and if you find it fun, go for it
tight scroll
shit my b
south cloak
no no Im all for tweeking my weapons.. so far I live long
long oasis
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/900279927138578432.webp?size=48&name=deadge%7E...
thunder shovel
tight scroll
cus clearly you didn't buy enough Aquillas
hushed agate
It burned my eyes too cereals
tight scroll
thunder shovel
that's just an executioners axe at that point
thorn imp
thunder shovel
ah yes the "I dont want to see the screen when I'm attacking" mod
long oasis
what if I use it sideways
tight scroll
idk, you get to shout 'west side'?
hushed agate
Looks cool af
hushed agate
I wish i was on pc
ripe quest
odd that the heavy has less damage than the light I think
If I had to guess it's not counting the ripping damage.
tight scroll
understandable
gentle trout
If I want most DMG in damnation what the best perk blessing combos for an eviserator?
ripe quest
If I want most DMG in damnation what the best perk blessing combos for an evise...
We have a weapon setup guide that shows desireable perks for each weapon.
north sedge
is in pins
gentle trout
Ok ok
ripe quest
For Evis is gonna be Flak, Maniac, Elites, Unyielding, Cara probs
tight scroll
flamaniac is always a good combo imo
ornate bone
just got this from a damnation mission
tight scroll
very nice
gentle trout
Found it
south cloak
tight scroll
shit that might be better than my thammer lol
gentle trout
I cannot find the pin for the weapon blessing and perks
gentle trout
Nah but I'd like to see the pin out fr can't find it
median steeple
im gonna fall and build a voidstrike that thing is insane wtf
north sedge
gentle trout
Check the what from who ?
north sedge
it's at my link
thorn imp
bro the second pin
median steeple
there is a doc for updated blessings and perks for zealots weapons
gentle trout
Weapons table ?
thorn imp
median steeple
thorn imp
im gonna fall and build a voidstrike that thing is insane wtf
voidstrike ds mk4 goes hard
been a while since I played psyker tho
median steeple
yeah I know the DS is really good but I think I can only handle one major op weapon before I feel bad
stray summit
the zealot weapon table
New evis
Old evis
Uhhhhh
Chainsword
Yes thats all of them
stray summit
Power Sword for Zealot when
median steeple
New evis
Old evis
Uhhhhh
Chainsword
Yes thats all of them
epic vin naming scheme
fading vale
crucis buff on carapace when
median steeple
make crucis one shot bosses fr fr
fading vale
hitting bosses with a chastise and a tauntgryn is quite funny
don't even need stealth for bonkers damage
not that you need any support for chastising bosses
ripe quest
crucis buff on carapace when
Tis what Chaxe is for.
fading vale
Tis what Chaxe is for.
sure but uh chaxe also deletes pretty much everything else faster, at least let crucis more easily one shot a single enemy
fading vale
ok I figured that was obvious enough for me to not mention it
ripe quest
Also I'm fairly sure Thammer has better horde clear but I haven't benchmarked it
fading vale
but unyielding enemies are not typically the problem, it's big elite packs
median steeple
oh boy i sure do love getting the same perks and blessings twice in a row
fading vale
and fighting big elite packs with hammer is well, possible but god damn you have to sweat and it's trash vs maniac
olive raven
tbh its why i stopped using hammer
thorn imp
Using thammer on anything but bosses is miserable you mean
zealous basin
chaxe nation
thorn imp
fading vale
Using thammer on anything but bosses is miserable you mean
no, it's the most fun weapon for me but it's started to be a bit eclipsed by some of the weapon changes etc
thorn imp
no, it's the most fun weapon for me but it's started to be a bit eclipsed by som...
I havent played the last patch but its been going down in power compared to other stuff ye
fading vale
Like I can fight basically everything with a hammer but then we have shit like DS4 which is a pointy hammer except versus unyielding bosses
sharp zodiac
Alright kids gone I can direct my time to Darktide now
olive raven
Omg I am so hyper from this fruit smoothie
it. is. fucking. fruit. how are you hyper
zealous basin
stan is childbrain
hushed knoll
Dude fruit is fucking amazing
sharp zodiac
Fruit contains some amounts of sugar, but it's Stan so the slightest amount is absolutely enough
hushed knoll
Have you never gotten excited from pomegranate or bananas
thorn imp
wait since when is chain axe good
olive raven
no
ripe quest
I do think that Thammer should get some changes. A thing that helps with Chaxe is that while you wouldn't normally rev stuff like Ragers, you can light spam and stun lock them. Thammer still just has it's usual base attaacks.
olive raven
ive never got excited from eating fruit stan
ripe quest
wait since when is chain axe good
Since they added the new one.
zealous basin
Have you never gotten excited from pomegranate or bananas
who gets excited over bananas
olive raven
especially food known to make you SLEEPY
sharp zodiac
Curious George
zealous basin
bananas are so plain
fading vale
wait since when is chain axe good
since it got buffed and the new one was added
hushed knoll
Bananas are fucking amazing bro
median steeple
got bananas are great
zealous basin
bananas are great but they are not exciting
ripe quest
It has the best Flak boss damage in the game, much like how Thammer has the best Unyielding boss damage.
hushed knoll
I freeze them and eat them like a popsicle
ripe quest
and some other stuff
sharp zodiac
I prefer strawberry
median steeple
but not banana flavoured stuff
thorn imp
Does it still have the weird sticking and camera shit
olive raven
I prefer strawberry
so real
ripe quest
Does it still have the weird sticking and camera shit
It's a bit better but a lot of the underlying issues are still present.
fading vale
the twins are the real threat, unyielding bosses a bit too easy
olive raven
twins arent unyielding no?
fading vale
nope
ripe quest
They're Flak Cara Unarmored
thorn imp
It's a bit better but a lot of the underlying issues are still present.
Then its rashad all the way for me
ripe quest
That is a completely different weapon functionality wise
olive raven
yea so that explains why the chain weapons and rashad perform better
against twins
but
frosty herald
Twins have mauler armor
olive raven
chain weapons are fucking motion sickness inducing hell
north sedge
eh
chaxe rarely whips your camera now
unless you hit a mutant at the wrong time or something
fading vale
I'm just sayin if I have a bunch of buffs up and a perfect hammer and max out thrust I should be able to one shot a crusher without jumping through even more hoops to get more buffs
sharp zodiac
And just for safe measures you can always turn off screnshake
Unless it already is
ripe quest
The lights are still a tiny bit weird, but the normal revs haven't had too much jerkiness. The Mk XII's heavies have similar issues to the IV's lights but they come out slower so it's not quite as hard to use.
fading vale
I mean hell even one shotting maulers with max thrust can be a bitch sometimes
olive raven
chaxe rarely whips your camera now
i have trauma from using the chain axe in auric maelstrom with cask pre buff
north sedge
yea it isnt that silly anymore
olive raven
It literally gave me migraines
ripe quest
That's some weakness right there
fading vale
and the lights can't cleave now right
ripe quest
They don't slip yeah
fading vale
also a hammer special light should be able to at least one shot a fucking gunner
do you know how annoying it is to special light a gunner and they live
ripe quest
iirc they had like high cleave, it was 1 or 0.5 idr. They made it and other chain base attacks 0.001
fading vale
no
sharp zodiac
Erhm well you see lorewise the dreg gunner was dropped on the head as a baby
zealous basin
nope we agree
sharp zodiac
Reinforcing his head
zealous basin
🤝
zealous basin
sharp zodiac
zealous basin
what da
sharp zodiac
Watermobile
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/monster-pig-reagan-mask-darmine-gif-6743568957181143062
I am mermaiding so much rn
faint cape
wheelermelon
sharp zodiac
God damnit that's so much better
north sedge
I am mermaiding so much rn
zealous basin
(i spiked stans smoothie)
sharp zodiac
As you should
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/cucuso-trippy-psychedelic-psychedelicguy-crazy-gif-125070...
Why aren't you in bedge
hushed knoll
(i spiked stans smoothie)
north sedge
Why aren't you in bedge
Its 7pm
hushed knoll
So?
zealous basin
<a:nou:686867704543445113>
im literally drinking alcohol
how r u gonna spike my drink
impossible
drugs is drugs
hushed knoll
im literally drinking alcohol
With these spiky cleats, anything is possible
zealous basin
owo
hushed knoll
zealous basin
i didnt know u were like that stan
hushed knoll
Like what
zealous basin
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/winslow-odd-fellow-walk-in-walk-out-catdog-gif-8298707
Is this guy's name milo
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/hmm-meeting-gif-26837833
No
wanton loom
For the "Restoring Faith" talent (heal on taking damage), is this pre or post mitigation?
worldly bramble
I just played a mission where all four of us had sawtooth weapons 
olive raven
For the "Restoring Faith" talent (heal on taking damage), is this pre or post mi...
uh
it happens after you get hit
mental ravine
is this bricked w/o deathblow
olive raven
is this bricked w/o deathblow
perfect strike is horrific
i wouldve just taken deathblow over flak
its still usable but its a shame that it was such a good stat roll
next crow
i mean it's still usable
next crow
but yeah a good second blessing is probably more important
wanton loom
uh
it says it restores 25% of the damage taken. i have talents that reduce my damage taken (such as the one that reduces damage taken by 40% when it would bring you to the next wound). Is the heal for 25% of the pre-mitigation value (before the 40% reduction) or post mitigation value (after 40% reduction)
olive raven
it says it restores 25% of the damage taken. i have talents that reduce my damag...
uh
sharp zodiac
Godlike powers
olive raven
i believe its based on the actual damage you receive
zinc talon
^this is what psuckers actually look like bursting brains
ripe quest
it says it restores 25% of the damage taken. i have talents that reduce my damag...
If you take 100 damage you heal 25
olive raven
so id believe post?
wanton loom
hmmm ok
olive raven
is this bricked w/o deathblow
I'd just run a piety build for this to try taking as much benefit from perfect strike
idk thats just my idea
wanton loom
if it were pre mitigation it would be absolutely amazing
olive raven
if it were pre mitigation it would be absolutely amazing
its very useful either way dw
its saved my ass before
its basically an extra 25% DR
wanton loom
well its good, but it's essentially just 'mitigates' 25%
olive raven
for HP
wanton loom
yeah
ornate bone
wanton loom
if it were pre it would probably be broken though because you could possibly stack enough DR to actually heal from taking a hit lol
vale carbon
https://streamable.com/p1hiof
Honestly it feels like the hammers just do this and are mid at everything else
vale carbon
Other melees can too though
ripe quest
is this bricked w/o deathblow
Perfect Strike is kinda like dollar store Deathblow with Hsword due to it doing 1st target damage twice on heavies. You can cleave Crushers and stuff with it.
ornate bone
i feel like other weps kinda eh
ripe quest
Kinda memey but still def useable with how potent Hsword is in general.
half ruin
What would be a good Perk and Blessing for a shotgun?
Specifically a lawbringer shotgun
vale carbon
What does the pinned spreadsheet say?
median steeple
game lagging so hard I caught this mf surfing
violet hornet
What would be a good Perk and Blessing for a shotgun?
Notable Blessings:
No Respite, Fire Frenzy, Full Bore,
Deathspitter, Scattershot (Lawbringer)
Notable Perks:
Flak, Maniac, Elites, Unyielding
half ruin
Notable Blessings:
No Respite, Fire Frenzy, Full Bore,
Deathspitter, Scattersho...
Ty very much
ripe quest
Notable Blessings:
No Respite, Fire Frenzy, Full Bore,
Deathspitter, Scattersho...
@gray ice Agri can run Scattershot as well.
broken yoke
does the zealots choir thing stun bosses anymore or no?
tropic pelican
on the first and last pulse, not on every pulse anymore
violet hornet
from traiter curse part 1 patch notes: Changed so ‘Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude’ ability staggers bosses 1st and every other pulse instead of first/last.
gray ice
<@206267213303382017> Agri can run Scattershot as well.
like actually or is this a hairbrained exhillious play?
minor sage
scattershot agri with bleed knife
ripe quest
like actually or is this a hairbrained exhillious play?
It stacks based on how many enemies are in a line when you shoot. If 5 enemies are lined up you get all stacks of Scattershot, regardless of your cleave. Agri has the highest finesse multi of the shotguns, critical weakspot hits will do more than a Kant.
ah with Duellist
forgot to mention
fading vale
yeah scattershot uses the cleave list which I doubt is intended but because of that it's quite solid
doesn't do much for just shooting single targets but if you are shooting them in a horde or something
median steeple
ripe quest
ah with Duellist
yee duellist finesse hit with agri does ~1700 and kant does ~1680 under the same situation
very cool
gray ice
I see I see
It's still not really good on kant unless you're doing flechette memery tho right
sacred vessel
oh boi i haven't played zealot since the new weapons dropped
covert sonnet
I'd like a melee weapon on my martyr zealot that can deal with armored enemies, the crusher is good for that right?
next crow
eviscerator and knife are also pretty good at handling armor
minor sage
I'd like a melee weapon on my martyr zealot that can deal with armored enemies, ...
evis crusher hs axe
ripe quest
It's still not really good on kant unless you're doing flechette memery tho righ...
Flechette is kinda eh for the kant
sacred vessel
hows the new eviscerator?
minor sage
it's gud
olive raven
I'd like a melee weapon on my martyr zealot that can deal with armored enemies, ...
Crusher is a splendid choice.
Its also one of the most thoroughly documented weapons thanks to Josho
olive raven
Crushe/Kant combo goes wild
minor sage
no
sacred vessel
oh?
minor sage
you're cleave capped
olive raven
same blessings as the other one?
Rampage/Shred is the most seen one
minor sage
so you either go rampage shred or rampage bloodthirsty
olive raven
but Rampage/Savage Sweep, Rampage/Momentum, Rampage/Bloodthirsty are all other options
and its not a cleave cap
its a damage cap
Its limited to only damage 4 enemies
minor sage
why are you recommending sweep to him then LOL
olive raven
but it can cleave and impact more than 4
Because cleave & damage are different things
All the options are still viable
And having more cleave from savage sweep allows one to cleave higher hitmass enemies, etc
next crow
shred on evis can get you some crazy CDR if you have the CDR on crit node
rigid trellis
savage sweep is only good on the new evis for crit cdr
next crow
it feels like every target "hit", even if not damaged, contributes to the CDR, but i'm not 100% sure
olive raven
Non-damage hits do not count from memory
rigid trellis
they do that's why ss works
minor sage
do you have proof?
i remember seeing that target capped hits don't work
a while ago
rigid trellis
no but you can go test for yourself
rigid trellis
cant think of better evidence than trying it for yourself in the meat grinder
next crow
https://youtu.be/Ibw__CGenyU?t=127
Timestamped video shows CDR refunding one charge in 3 swings, we have to take chocob's word that the blessings are rampage/shred so there's no extra cleave tho
rigid trellis
rampage gives a little bit of extra cleave because of the power boost
soft atlas
speaking of which, what should i do with this guy
olive raven
speaking of which, what should i do with this guy
bloodletter to rampage
id say block eff to some damage variant
Flak/Unyielding/Carapace/Maniac are the main options
rigid trellis
inaccurate tooltips? they would never
olive raven
weak spot is eh but
olive raven
rampage is damage and not power, isn't it?
Rampage adds power yea
its weird
but yea
sacred vessel
what about the flamer? is it still good?
next crow
next time i see an evis with savage sweep i'll buy it and try it out - even though shred/ss is a lot less damage you could potentially get a lot more cdr from 200% cleave than 36% power
sacred vessel
haven't seen flamers in a long time aside from purgatus psykers
soft atlas
The omnissiah has not granted me with tier 4 rampage 
polar nexus
i tested on a whim the new chainsword on my vet (flakapace, rampage+shred) and i kinda love it... is it ok on zealot or does the new evis invalidate it?
i ask before dumping all my plasteel -_-
olive raven
For @sacred vessel
Evis mk15 has some blessings combos that is just Rampage with any of the following: Shred/Bloodthirsty/Momentum/Savage Sweep/Wrath
Yes it has a damage cap but increasing cleave via Savage Sweep or Wrath is still beneficial for extra cleave ability & more CC so please do ignore the dumbassery that is usually posted abt it.
Personally the mkXV is a perfect crit CDR weapon so, have fun having infinite ults.
covert sonnet
what perks should I look for on d claw 4? I have unarmored damage currently
olive raven
haven't seen flamers in a long time aside from purgatus psykers
and flamer is good for horde clear
olive raven
what perks should I look for on d claw 4? I have unarmored damage currently
show the weapon itself
but typically its flakiac for ideal
polar nexus
what perks should I look for on d claw 4? I have unarmored damage currently
flak maniac, but you reaaaaaallly want flak
because it sucks against flak
olive raven
and flamer is good for horde clear
and dealing with elite packs tbh if you chastise
covert sonnet
and I heard that I want savage sweep and rampage for my blessings, are there any alternates that I should know?
ornate bone
Shred and rampage is also a good combo
olive raven
and I heard that I want savage sweep and rampage for my blessings, are there any...
for mk4 claw?
covert sonnet
yes
minor sage
SS is super pointless on the dclaw fyi
covert sonnet
yeah I'm running martyr non crit rn I think
minor sage
your base cleave is very high
covert sonnet
I'm only lvl 17 so I haven't really gotten to the nitty-gritty yet, but I wanted to start looking for stuff early
minor sage
you run it because there's nothing else to run
covert sonnet
SS is super pointless on the dclaw fyi
what do you reccommend then?
minor sage
cuz everything else is just impact blessings
covert sonnet
oh I see
rigid trellis
don't bother looking for good weapons and investing mats until you hit lvl 30
covert sonnet
and impact is useless then?
minor sage
yes, unlike some other people
I do not find impact that impactful heh
having more damage to kill shit is usually better
olive raven
and impact is useless then?
Impact isnt the most useful thing for most "swords"
its helpful in certain scenarios but the claws and heavy swords have enough impact to handle most scenarios
covert sonnet
interesting
gray ice
its helpful in certain scenarios but the claws and heavy swords have enough impa...
well for claw it's less that you have enough impact and more so that it isn't required
claw has like none, but you don't need to stagger shit like ragers cuz you can just parry em
olive raven
yea
exotic portal
when is next part of the traitor curse coming out?
ripe quest
i tested on a whim the new chainsword on my vet (flakapace, rampage+shred) and i...
Both Chainswords are still really potent weapons.
Like, on paper and ingame they are good
It really feels as if Chainsword is base attack focused, Evis is mixed, and Chaxe is rev focused.
New Evis can 1 shot Crushers with a crit, new Chainsword takes a couple base heavys or revs but has better crowd clear by a good amount
north sedge
is only 2 parts
median zenith
Yes, because Loner isn't just 2-player coherency, you also always benefit from your teammate's auras and team buffs at all times no matter where you are
Is this dude making stuff up or nah?
abstract venture
Is claw 1 sword any good?
minor sage
all the claw swords are good
olive raven
> Yes, because Loner isn't just 2-player coherency, you also always benefit from...
tbh most ppl dont even care for the benefits of loner cuz its basically a travel node 💀
median zenith
dunno how people can just write stuff so confidently without knowing for sure
abstract venture
This thing trash or keep it?
whole elm
For a MKII eviscerator would I want rev it up or bloodthirsty?
olive raven
dunno how people can just write stuff so confidently without knowing for sure
Fatshark aint the best so sometimes its just not knowing
olive raven
For a MKII eviscerator would I want rev it up or bloodthirsty?
Rampage/Savage Sweep
whole elm
Not bloodthirty savage sweep?
rigid trellis
For a MKII eviscerator would I want rev it up or bloodthirsty?
ideally neither
drowsy jackal
you say something with enough confidence and some people are bound to believe it
olive raven
Not bloodthirty savage sweep?
you want rampage for the damage boost
north sedge
bloodthirsty is only usable on the mk15, in conjuction with rampage, though it's still bit goofy in practice (you're using it to get one shots on elites by playing whack a mole for the activation)
abstract venture
Shred is also powerful with rampage but only really for the other chainswords, the mk 2 benefits more from extra cleave
open bramble
Man, hsword 7 is so akward
awkward, even
It does feel more like a samurai swored, though, which is kind of coo'
olive raven
> Yes, because Loner isn't just 2-player coherency, you also always benefit from...
and yea pre sure its just a toughness regen benefit, no auras.
abstract venture
It does feel more like a samurai swored, though, which is kind of coo'
Mk3 combat blade feels like a little samurai sword with the style of swings especially in heavy
north sedge
but like the tiny little one that's mostly for gutting yourself
polar nexus
New Evis can 1 shot Crushers with a crit, new Chainsword takes a couple base hea...
yeah, that's what i felt. My vet can onetap almost everythin with a rev... except a crusher but it is still quite fast and i have other tools against them
abstract venture
but like the tiny little one that's mostly for gutting yourself
This dude gets it
Death before dishonor
north sedge
that's why i've seen so many knife zealots kill themselves i guess
abstract venture
They see 3 crushers and a tox flamer walking toward them so they nope tf out of there right over a ledge and die
Seen it the other night on somebody who tried to solo when everybody but him was down
keen silo
but like the tiny little one that's mostly for gutting yourself
its called a tanto i believe, and i dont think its for only gutting yourself 🤣
north sedge
im just making fun of knifey boys
keen silo
valid
fleet zealot
keen silo
I get these terrible fps drops at fog areas
how can i get rid of it
ive turned off volumetric fog with the mod
and still its laggy as fuck
can i do anything
cedar maple
Best thammer mark?
rigid trellis
crucis is generally better, ironhelm is easier to use
gritty geyser
what do you do with a crucis when there's a horde of 8 crushers and maulers mixed in with poxwalkers?
i really really want to love the hammer because of the bonk but even with a knife with rending I can deal with that horde better by dodging and applying bleed and crits on the pack
while with the hammer I just feel completely impotent because you need to charge + hold for thrust IV + jump to hit the crusher in the middle of the horde for each one while getting wailed on by the chaff
and for maulers it's even worse since they're the same height as the poxwalkers blocking your swings
inner crane
i really really want to love the hammer because of the bonk but even with a knif...
Don't force yourself to play hammer if you are not receiving enjoyment out of it
median steeple
So true try to find a weapon you enjoy most
copper hawk
noh
gritty geyser
I initially really liked it in lower difficulties but once I get to damnation and auric this scenario play out almost everytime and it makes me sad
copper hawk
play a wpn u HATE
play the TAXE
or the COMBAT BLADE
objectively bad wpnz
DO IT !!
hehehe..
inner crane
I initially really liked it in lower difficulties but once I get to damnation an...
Yeah, that is how it goes
shy river
I'm all about the Rashad axe and crucis hammer rn, try what you like first
gritty geyser
is there really no secret build people are using to make hammer good in auric compared to the other good ones like the heavy sword or chainsword
ripe quest
There's a thing in the files that shows a scrapped Loner upgrade.
median zenith
You guys ever play with this 900+ level dude named bonk on auric maelstorm? Wish I could play hammer as well as he does
ripe quest
is there really no secret build people are using to make hammer good in auric co...
If it isn't a crit build it works usually. Fury of the Faithful and Duellist can hit 2 shots with a good Thammer.
royal vortex
There's a thing in the files that shows a scrapped Loner upgrade.
lmao
aura upgrades wouldve been smth else
fleet zealot
play a wpn u HATE
This was me with pre buff chaxe
royal vortex
pious_stabguy
fleet zealot
Pious stabguy
ripe quest
some of the backstab stuff has stabguy as the name lol
lots of stuff labeled with Martyrdom as well
or rage
shy river
If they made the corruption cleanse aura give you back the hp lost from corruption that would be nice
inner crane
2 blessings or 1 blessing + 1 perk to exchange?
vale carbon
Imo leave perks
Maniac is goated, and carapace probably isn't the best, but not the worst
vale carbon
Switch precog for something at least
marsh sluice
i have lacerate too
ripe quest
@ripe heron Random question about Loner, have you ever tested to see if it offers coherency buffs outside of the regen when it's active? Seems like the code implies Loner just puts a minimum cap on coherency regen stacks, would it like, only give the most recent coherency buff?
north sedge
Precog is good
covert sonnet
what are important perks and blessings for the revolver XIV?
inner crane
what are important perks and blessings for the revolver XIV?
Crucian Roulette and Hand Cannon for blessings
Flak and Maniac for perks
stray summit
Man New Evis
Str8 up just lights
north sedge
https://i.imgur.com/OHnrOKu.png
Thunderstrike to skullcrusher
ripe quest
I'd check what BPs you hit with the perks, that knife is effectively future proof as long as the blessings stay the same
You could freely swap around the perks and see what you want, though it'd be using resources for it.
marsh sluice
what are Bps
ripe quest
Breakpoints
Knife is a single target weapon, going from 2 to 1 hit or 3 to 2 is a nice benefit.
It might be overwhelming but this is the BP calc https://dt.wartide.net/calc/.
Can also just go into the Psyk with the knife and see if you miss a BP manually
obtuse solstice
what do I swap?
elfin condor
Hammerblow for slaughterer or headtaker. and replace crit damage to unyeilding maybe
unless you're running crit builds
north sedge
No crit bad for hammer
little thicket
Thunder hammer is about as bad as it can get for crit builds.
north sedge
And crit/weakspot dmg is poop in general
little thicket
No synergy.
north sedge
As a perk
ripe quest
1% damage my beloved
ripe quest
The one that says "Dreg Shotgunner" means you have them selected, next select an attack on the weapon
Here's a video on it
olive raven
sharp zodiac
Like hitting him with styrofoam laced with cyanide
covert sonnet
is there a place I can see the max base stats for melee weapons?
silk sail
Is Skullcrusher 4 a good substitute for headtaker/slaught on the crucis?
ripe quest
Is Skullcrusher 4 a good substitute for headtaker/slaught on the crucis?
Not really
ripe quest
is there a place I can see the max base stats for melee weapons?
What do you mean by base stats? Each stat maxes out at 80%, the inspect menu ingame shows the ranges between 0 and 100% (you can get a mod to change the 100% to 80% to be representative of the actual max stat).
ornate bone
Usable, but not ideal
ripe quest
You can use BP calc to get an accurate list of the damage values
covert sonnet
where can I find that? in pins?
ripe quest
covert sonnet
oh thank you
ripe quest
Scroll up a bit and there's a guide on how to use it
sage river
Probably not right?
ripe quest
Yeah that's not great
Pen is very low (it's nice when it's high) + bad perks and blessing
sage river
And this jusst kind of misses the damage
When a weapon's entire existence is based on the fact that it can do a ton of damage, having a lower damage isn't incredible
However, its ok other than that
olive raven
And this jusst kind of misses the damage
tbh
hammer damage stat
isnt too crazy a variation
sage river
Damn
lament iron
what should i change on this here thing
vivid hawk
what's the go-to anti elite/armor melee for zealot?
silk sail
unarmored to maniac and bte to dumdum/ghost
silk sail
what's the go-to anti elite/armor melee for zealot?
evis/chaxe
vivid hawk
evis/chaxe
have tried both chaxes, wasn't very impressed tbh
the special is too risky most of the time
obtuse solstice
is ammo important?
vivid hawk
havent tried evis since the skill trees were added, what's the differences between the mk2 and the mk15?
silk sail
the mk2 has better hordeclear while the mk15 has better single target, and a more straightforward moveset
silk sail
have tried both chaxes, wasn't very impressed tbh
a necessary trade for one of the best elite shredders in the game
vivid hawk
a necessary trade for one of the best elite shredders in the game
dont have thrust 4 yet, so haven't been able to try the full wombo combo out on the mk12
random berry
i feel accomplished. my thunder hammer attack hits for 1/3rd of the assasination mission target's health
silk sail
if you weren't aware of the fury/chastise interaction with chain weapons, you can dash mid latch to maximize your damage output and stun enemies in the vicinity
vivid hawk
if you weren't aware of the fury/chastise interaction with chain weapons, you ca...
Yeah, that was one of the few things I did remember
silk sail
the new chaxe can even be built to 1shot crushers without the special rev this way
vale carbon
Tell us how
vivid hawk
so what makes the mk2 pull ahead of the mk15 in terms of horde clear?
silk sail
the heavy sweep doesn't have a target cap of 4 unlike the 15
sage river
Zealot with the personality of a general electric all purpose blender
silk sail
Tell us how
zealous basin
ladies and gentlemen of #zealot-class guess what
sage river
zealot's getting a buff?
sage river
silk sail
what are the general horde clear combos for each evis?
for the mk2 it's a heavy1 > light2 loop
misty raven
mk15 seems like light spam
It is
silk sail
push attack can be weaved in to safely initialize the combo
misty raven
Less efficiency but allows more brain dead reckless abandon. I like it
next crow
i have the utmost respect for weapons whose horde clear combos involve weaving more than one kind of attack
but i can't use them
sage river
So by "with less than a wound's worth of health remaining" does that imply that means >50% if you go down to 2 wounds?
silk sail
pa> heavy > light
sage river
Got my saintly pants and figured I should get onto earning the shirt too
silk sail
So by "with less than a wound's worth of health remaining" does that imply that ...
it means the hit that takes you to the next segment gets resisted
vivid hawk
default blessing combo the same for both variants? rampage/sweep?
sage river
it means the hit that takes you to the next segment gets resisted
I mean for the challenge for the saintly vestments
ripe quest
default blessing combo the same for both variants? rampage/sweep?
For Mk II it's Rampage + Savage and for the Mk XV it's Rampage + Shred/Bloodthirsty.
silk sail
oops had a brainfart there
vivid hawk
For Mk II it's Rampage + Savage and for the Mk XV it's Rampage + Shred/Bloodthir...
interesting, why the change between the two?
misty raven
default blessing combo the same for both variants? rampage/sweep?
Not default but I'm liking shred and perfect strike for my brain dead wound zealot on the XV
ripe quest
interesting, why the change between the two?
Mk XV's crowd clear profile has really high base cleave lights that are target capped to 4. Cleave strictly offers CC, so some opt for crit to further boost damage. Example being Bloodthirsty to chain Crusher 1 shots.
vivid hawk
Mk XV's crowd clear profile has really high base cleave lights that are target c...
interesting
silk sail
on the other hand mk2's heavies benefit well from extra cleave since it auto latches once it reaches its mass limit, and you don't want to stun yourself every time you face a meager horde
brisk raft
I heard Bloodthirsty is weak on Evis?
ripe quest
On the Mk II it's fairly wasted.
ripe quest
on the other hand mk2's heavies benefit well from extra cleave since it auto lat...
Also the H1 on the Mk II isn't target capped, while not a tremendous difference it's nice to apply minimum damage to a larger number of enemies.
The lack of catching is also nice, which is partially why Perfect Strike + Shred is being considered with crit builds since you can extend that to even Crushers.
vivid hawk
hmm, still not sure which one to build first
brisk raft
Hows plasteel?
vivid hawk
brisk raft
Owch
vivid hawk
changing topics to the chaxes, been told by a few that the mk12 is better than the mk4, thoughts?
silk sail
Also the H1 on the Mk II isn't target capped, while not a tremendous difference ...
aye, it does give a bit of extra damage sure, but auto latching is a big factor that usually puts people off chain weapons and I feel that is the more significant takeaway for the extra cleave
stark rune
Is there a big diff on the eviscerators?
sage river
changing topics to the chaxes, been told by a few that the mk12 is better than t...
I appreciate the light spam on the mk12
Also I like how it looks
silk sail
I'd say for evis at least, it's worth buying a grey from brunt's and getting a feel for the movesets
vivid hawk
only chain weapon I haven't tried much is the swords, how're those for zealot?
silk sail
another thing I like for mk2 is the first light can be used to bonk lone shooters in a single shot
ripe quest
changing topics to the chaxes, been told by a few that the mk12 is better than t...
Mk IV is better at crowds and has very solid small elite single target with the lights. Mk XII hits like a truck and every attack on it has single target properties. Both can 1 shot Crushers fairly easily.
sage river
only chain weapon I haven't tried much is the swords, how're those for zealot?
Either insane or horrible, depends what kind of player you are
vivid hawk
Mk IV is better at crowds and has very solid small elite single target with the ...
was heavy spamming this into hordes, was fun
sage river
Ive seen zealots get themselves crushed by crushers with the secondary
ripe quest
Yeah that's a very good roll
ripe quest
Ive seen zealots get themselves crushed by crushers with the secondary
Like, they die when they rev hit?
sage river
They rev hit a crusher DURING the windup for the slam
vivid hawk
@ripe quest do you need t4 thrust for the crusher 1 shot?
ripe quest
Oh, not sure if the Chainsword staggers them out of overheads
zealous basin
imagine not staggering crushers with revved hits LMAO
ripe quest
<@239404785453760512> do you need t4 thrust for the crusher 1 shot?
The Mk XII, no. The Mk IV I think really wants it but it's not the end of the world.
ripe quest
imagine not staggering crushers with revved hits LMAO
Could've been light revs tbf
sage river
Well not the windup ig, but some time during the attack
silk sail
adding to Mk4 chaxe's elite damage, the auto latching on lights is a notable feature that can stagger and stunlock ragers out of their flurries with minimal windup
sage river
maybe light revs
vivid hawk
The Mk XII, no. The Mk IV I think *really* wants it but it's not the end of the ...
huh, interesting, what are the conditions you need for the 1 shot then?
sage river
Either way its funny to see people get killed for using the attacks at the worst time
ripe quest
I don't have the exact list on hand, Mk XII needs some paperclips and Thrust 4 (or any 60% damage equivalent) and it'll 1 shot. Mk IV I think needed Headtaker and Thrust up + Duellist or smth
I'd test for you but I'm about to be busy so cannot
vivid hawk
do chaxes want Duellist?
ripe quest
It's free damage, not particularly potent but it's nice
Also +100% finesse with critical weakspots is potent regardless of weapon, especially with something like Chaxe if you use Fury of the Faithful
Thammer isn't a crit weapon yet Duellist makes 2 shots on bosses free
vivid hawk
this is what I've been using, but zealot knowledge is very limited
open to any suggestions for improvement
this is with chaxe/revo
silk sail
5 stack of headtaker and sustained assault is enough for a crusher 1shot on the mk4
ripe quest
That sounds about right yeah
brisk raft
Anyone heard of Tanner Lindberg and his Darktide stances, man is unhinged hahaha
silk sail
this is including thrust and +cara
north sedge
That either is or is close to Lazorr's thammer build
Duelist instead of attack speed, i run same build
And desperation instead of holy rev but i think that's perhaps less helpful here
north sedge
Anyone heard of Tanner Lindberg and his Darktide stances, man is unhinged hahaha
Some people have linked some videos here
vivid hawk
this is including thrust and +cara
able to get the 1 shot with full stacks of headtaker, slaughterer, and Sustained Assault
no cara
or thrust
brisk raft
Is the best stealth zealot build still knife or crucis?
sage river
What
silk sail
yea it's not too bad of a threshold to achieve, with additional momentum/marty stacks you can easily get there
vivid hawk
problem is not sure which chaxe I prefer
north sedge
It's pretty easy to hit
vivid hawk
the 4 is fun, but it might just be that my mk4 is better than my mk12
north sedge
I prefer mk4 for general use
silk sail
the extra hordeclear mk4 provides edges out it in terms of preference for me
north sedge
I've used mk12 for twins fight the few times I've done it though
vivid hawk
the extra hordeclear mk4 provides edges out it in terms of preference for me
that's using the heavies, right?
north sedge
I also like the sawing being on the lights
silk sail
yes, and push attack is still alright for opening up space
north sedge
The mk12 pa is freakishly strong though
vivid hawk
what's a good complimentary ranged for mk4 chaxe?
north sedge
Whatever you want
vivid hawk
Typical Scottish Preacher
ripe quest
Anyone heard of Tanner Lindberg and his Darktide stances, man is unhinged hahaha
It's like Darcy takes but way too much confidence behind them.
silk sail
I pair mine with a laspistol for extra vwooming with judgement
ripe quest
what's a good complimentary ranged for mk4 chaxe?
It's a generalist weapon so many work, I like Kant just to help it's horde clear a tiny bit.
vivid hawk
I pair mine with a laspistol for extra vwooming with judgement
been using zarona since bolter is useless
brisk raft
It's like Darcy takes but way too much confidence behind them.
You sure they're not one and the same? Haha
vivid hawk
I do have a decent agri braced though
ripe quest
The mk12 pa is freakishly strong though
Everything on it does freakish first target damage it's so odd
The "crowd clear" lights can like 3 shot a scab rager
north sedge
I basically just use agri brauto unless I'm doing like, twins or scab melee, flamer then
brisk raft
How is kant laspistol on zealot?
north sedge
Regardless of weapon, though all the weapons i use deal with elites easily
vivid hawk
It's a generalist weapon so many work, I like Kant just to help it's horde clear...
that's the flame shotty, right?
ripe quest
yeah
silk sail
dance of death is really nice to pair with the mk10 pistol
brisk raft
What's a good melee to pair with flamer? I'm using knives blitz
spark ember
What's a good melee to pair with flamer? I'm using knives blitz
Chain axe
ripe quest
What's a good melee to pair with flamer? I'm using knives blitz
Anything with really good single target. Knife, Chaxe, could make an arguement for Caxe. Other than that just generalist weapons.
Taxe too ig
silk sail
looks great to me
spark ember
Whatever u like more, they are both good
brisk raft
Ive not used a taxe in a million years
ripe quest
It hasn't been updated in a million years
spark ember
U can also use new evi
ripe quest
shit is still in 2022
spark ember
New evi has hilarious boss dmg
silk sail
blessings are fantastic so you can have free reign over your perk swaps
brisk raft
Does taxe even have any advantage other than mobility?
ripe quest
Not really
prime ridge
New evi has hilarious boss dmg
Not as good as the almighty bonk, but pretty good shreds on weakspots
ripe quest
Both axe families are very reliant on BM and Taxe is just worse for BM
open bramble
taxe isn’t very good, but it isn’t so bad that it is unusable
ripe quest
Chaxe getting a glow up to be the best Flak boss damage available is cool
cinder roost
the mk12 is amazing vs unyeilding and carapace as well
ripe quest
It does great single target damage in general. Evis beats it in Unyielding damage.
spark ember
Yeah, but axe is generally better vs elites
cinder roost
id have to test that tbh, casue i feel its better
vivid hawk
@ripe quest what's a good looking Kant shotty look like?
ripe quest
I tested it a while ago. Mk XV Evis does more against Unyielding bosses than the Mk XII can output.
ripe quest
<@239404785453760512> what's a good looking Kant shotty look like?
Flakiac with No Respite + Damage Blessing. I prefer Fire Frenzy.
mobility dump
spark ember
I tested it a while ago. Mk XV Evis does more against Unyielding bosses than the...
Yee, thats why i like it so much i legit choppin' all monsters into pieces xD
vivid hawk
mobility dump
had these stashed away, hopefully one of them turns out useable
ripe quest
There's also a build guide in pins for weapons.
spark ember
It was even more hilarious when i had +20% unyeilding xD, but i was forced to gave it up for critcdr, QQ
ornate bone
Y'know
Considering the crafting system
Don't you guys think we have more than 40000 warhammers by now?
copper hawk
brisk raft
Would you let niko through?
No, I must save her from a terrible fate
sharp swallow
spark ember
Dum dum + idk, deathspitter
polar nexus
dum dum + whatever
wraith helm
best blessings for columnus 5
Doomdoom + punishing salvo
buoyant pecan
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166785409938903211/1192356215431372833/c...
Cica the instant he doesn't have a blood alcohol level of 2.9
vivid hawk
If you're out there Maxwell, I appreciate you, that was a rough one
vivid hawk
gg lol
was a slog
no clue what the martyrdom zealot was doing
sometimes they just stood there
ornate bone
I remember Meditra going back at the start and everyone just kinda staring at each other
Like observing a deer in the wild
vivid hawk
I remember Meditra going back at the start and everyone just kinda staring at ea...
ngl, that was confusing af when I saw it happen
vivid hawk
just glad I wasn't the shitty zealot this time around
Maxwell and I were duo for a good 10+ minutes
ornate bone
I might have a skewed perception on the matter
ember yew
Maxwell and I were duo for a good 10+ minutes
according to the damage table its 30 minutes
ember yew
ornate bone
For no reason in particular I think I'm going to switch to my shout plasma vet a bit
ornate bone
This was the sword
ngl I missed the mk9 the entire match
those horizontal heavies would've done me a world of good
vivid hawk
now that I'm getting use to chaxe, this thing shreds
ornate bone
I was kinda weirded when I saw you using the chainaxe
I went to spectate and was like "wait a minute, the guy doing a duo with me has been using a chainaxe the entire time?"
But I have PTSD from when it royally sucked
Dark times fit for dark tides
vivid hawk
the best weapon my zealot has, thought I'd try to make it work
after a learning curve, it definitely keels
sonic crown
How many bleed stacks does the scourge talent give to enemies? Anyone know>
ornate bone
I vaguely recall mentions of it being 2
sonic crown
Thanks!
sonic crown
I guess I'll have to test it out.
ornate bone
vivid hawk
@ornate bone you playing some more?
random berry
i go from clutching a super hard game to dying in a normal damnation, wtf man
vivid hawk
i go from clutching a super hard game to dying in a normal damnation, wtf man
normal DT things
ember yew
darktide experience
ornate bone
Yeah, just gonna get some choccy milk after this one
random berry
i know i don't suck
random berry
pisses me off
vivid hawk
Yeah, just gonna get some choccy milk after this one
you feel like playing with a chaxe zealot some more?
ornate bone
After I saw what lurks in this night, I could use some protection
vivid hawk
After I saw what lurks in this night, I could use some protection
muh FatFriend code
ornate bone
Friendshark
random berry
oh boy
someone activated the demonhost, during poxhound swarm, and we didn't get past the first room
at least i can half health a demonhost in one shot.
obtuse solstice
What do you guys like to pair with hammer? Tried flamer and it kinda sucked
ornate bone
For everything and more: revolver
split canyon
Is this good? level 19
ornate bone
Someone made Kruber's handgun with 5 shots
ember yew
someone activated the demonhost, during poxhound swarm, and we didn't get past t...
yesterday (in different matches) people triggered demonhost during horde waves + roaming boss
2 agro'ing for sure been from veteran shooting his sht randomly, one from Ogryn who can't see anything aside from 3m around him
sterile stone
rough galleon
god i can hear it
obtuse solstice
what do I swap?
exotic portal
ember yew
what do I swap?
accurate with dumdum, crit chance with either flak or maniac
ornate bone
I'd say reassuringly accurate for dumdum and unyielding for maniac
exotic portal
accurate with dumdum, crit chance with either flak or maniac
Maybe ghost?
exotic portal
nono, ghost on mkx is ugh
I don't personally benefit from dumdum, but i can reconciliate with a teammate running it.
ornate bone
Ghost is a good one too, since the new laspistol gets a bit more of a tempo with the headshots, but at the same time you also get less opportunities per second
ornate bone
I got used to playing the old laspistol the way people likely play the new one, since I used it on psyker and could hit headshot breakpoints on shooters with warp charges
exotic portal
yeah, it punishes misses pretty heavily
IX Or X is kinda slow.
ember yew
mk2 is basically ghost/dumdum, mk10 is infernus/dumdum or rakingfire/dumdum
exotic portal
Fits ghost well
Like not using the sword which blocks bullets, nice to compensate
ember yew
could speedload, but w/e
exotic portal
could speedload, but w/e
ember yew
if we look at entire picture of blessings available for most weapons, the choices aren't that big for most of them
since most of them are garbage
obtuse solstice
how important is stability on agri brauto?
obtuse solstice
Like acylis on ogryn
I dunno what that is
obtuse solstice
Maelstrom or nothing
exotic portal
Loading like 3-4 hordes of 10 groaners a horde
Wouldn't wanna get trapped by that.
Y'kno?
obtuse solstice
so... it's not important I assume? I have one with 64% stab
exotic portal
Got surgical on the new revolver.
No, not important.
8k coin vs 4-5 million i put into a 380
If i aim i want it to resonate.
not one bullet
still just only, 3-4 hordes of groaners with 10 enemies a horde.
flat marsh
Tbh, half of my revolvers don't have surgical since I usually fire them and immediately put it away
exotic portal
Bullet for the emporer talent?
flat marsh
I do have like one two for psyker and vet for a slower paced build
random berry
yesterday (in different matches) people triggered demonhost during horde waves +...
Late, but yeah that annoys the hell out of me.
exotic portal
You'd get up to the throne?
devs at work.
1 million heretics for a name feared frame, 1500-2000 hours
resonate with leagues of legends music, cause the community is kinda toxic, eeh.
y em devs not at top?
lore bad, game bad?
ember yew
y em devs not at top?
y mean league or darktide? darktide is ok since revamp, but league is just too much, i wonder how they 200$ skins plans going right now
exotic portal
y mean league or darktide? darktide is ok since revamp, but league is just too m...
Competition
like 4v1 and enemies..
cba to build on it.
Music is good thou.
exotic portal
https://youtu.be/iXTJUOjZR-o
top game is still top game
Not a lane.
community is rated 1st or 2nd toxic
copper hawk
Maow
ember yew
id still vote for CS GO community as #1
exotic portal
id still vote for CS GO community as #1
was elite eagle or something 3400 hours.. /what not
cba for a new season
ranking system be bullshit
I know my worth. Games are fun thou
Like surgical on a magdump weapon
4-5 million ordox
take its grind no?
ember yew
thats some insane online numbers for 6+ year old game
exotic portal
https://tenor.com/view/ash-williams-retweet-and-like-evil-dead-bruce-campbell-ar...
Come to think of the alexander movie
median steeple
https://tenor.com/view/castlevania-trevor-belmont-gif-21758982
Peak fiction
Love Castlevania
exotic portal
Love Castlevania
nocturne was kinda boring
Alucard came back thou, dracula still ghosting?
median steeple
Dracula is just a vibe
exotic portal
Dracula is just a vibe
from the first part of the netflix, he brough back lisa from hell and still resonates, like alucard
median steeple
Shibiri my beloved
Now I'm gonna rewatch the whole series again I think it's time
umbral kindle
A PILE OF SECRETS
stable cypress
Ye
mint brook
so you are saying mlek finally did something right?
open echo
should i grab this?
open echo
not worth the melk money tbh, as youll have one perk/blessing you don't want
autumn fern
both goodie ?
dense field
no
jolly bridge
I wrote a mini-guide on Reddit with Tips you might not know about the Flamer
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/18y03tv/if_you_think_flamer_is_bad_here_are_a_few_tips_to/
Feel free to add yours too! 
ornate bone
prety decent
just change rev it up and sprint efficiency and that's a useful piece
open echo
prety decent
just change rev it up and sprint efficiency and that's a useful pie...
wrath does nothing on new evisc
ornate bone
wrath does nothing on new evisc
Is it already max cleave? :thin
open echo
ye
ornate bone
interesting
then I'd change that instead, ye
open echo
- its melk money
ornate bone
not a fan of Rev it Up though
Unless it's to throw faster
ornate bone
+ its melk money
Lots of Melk money anyway
open echo
some people don't lol
ornate bone
true
but it helps that he doesn't often sell fantastic pieces anyway
so a decent one is already a big W
frozen ibex
I wrote a *mini-guide* on Reddit with **Tips you might not know about the Flamer...
Now make a bleed knife guide and spread the words.
open echo
so a decent one is already a big W
ig
gilded cairn
I never seen an ally weapon make my life so complicated, it was quite a challenge to get Decapitator stacks when the ally has a flamethrower of some kind.
atomic sparrow
mustve consecrated gray heavy evis to orange like 10 times now still no Shred IV, tons of Bloodletter IV and Rev It Up IV, Hadron pls
open echo
lvling up a another character moment
olive raven
I wrote a *mini-guide* on Reddit with **Tips you might not know about the Flamer...
You want to chastise after burn is applied, not prior.
it’s a w/e thing but it’ll kill everything more easily that way
ember yew
lvling up a another character moment
you can try quickplay button
open echo
you can try quickplay button
this is quickplay lol
ember yew
open echo
new players are so silly
they get lost and do the sillyest things
i have never seen one dodge or block lmao
and are ammo goblins
open echo
ye
olive raven
blocking id disagree with outside pushing
cuz my crusher gameplay is maybe a push attack every so often
open echo
ye also i don't really see pushing
olive raven
yea i mean
some of these things occur across all skill levels
ive seen lvl 999's just
fumble
olive raven
yea mistakes happen obviously
open echo
i often play badly in the morning
olive raven
sometimes my push doesnt push the burster, etc
open echo
or sometimes someone acidentally shoots one
drowsy steppe
hushed agate
Flamer isnt weak by any means but i think it could do with a handling speed buff. Higher swap speed slightly fast alt fire activation
Thatd be nice
frank night
handling speed seems to be what reddit latches onto when they decide a weapon is bad
see 9/10 takes on the bolter
jolly bridge
You want to chastise after burn is applied, not prior.
Thanks for the input!
If I get it right your point is "most damage done comes after the 10th stack of burn, thus you should chastise after the first few stacks"
- Chastise buff lasts for 10s.
- It takes less than 10s to build 15 stacks of burn.
(check first 15 sec here: https://youtu.be/I9O1AnZXrRw?si=p118M07jHXkFatKD&t=3 )
Therefore, I don't think it matters too much in a horde but you could get some extra damage by delaying chastise when burning bosses (that are not going to die within 10sec)
hushed agate
handling speed seems to be what reddit latches onto when they decide a weapon is...
Tbf it is one of the most noticeable things when trying out a new weapon
frank night
it's also another way the revolver is STUPID
hushed agate
But reddit likes to call everything bad
frank night
cos they have these other guns balanced with weighty animations
and then the destroyer of worlds comes rocketing out of the holster on a spring
frank night
the hand cannon nerf did zilch nada to at least my perceived power of the weapon
hardy lake
blocking id disagree with outside pushing
yea block is near useless if you dont play psyker
frank night
I don't think my breakpoints changed at all outside of crushers or something
hushed agate
yea block is near useless if you dont play psyker
Slab ogryn
Other than that you are correct
hardy lake
i mean you lose stam on sprint you lose stam by breathing you lose 40 % stam for a pox hit
hushed agate
Only time i ever use block when not rocking some form of shield is when im not confident enough i can dodge something
Which is not how it should be
hardy lake
btw its supposed to be the new skin rotation right ?
umbral kindle
Y'all remember when revolver was literally one of the worst guns in the game?
open echo
should i grab this from melk?
lean lark
yes
hardy lake
Y'all remember when revolver was literally one of the worst guns in the game? <:...
but knife zealot still played it because they have no soul ?
ye
lean lark
terrifying barrage to dumdum and sprint eff to flak
open echo
terrifying barrage to dumdum and sprint eff to flak
ik
unreal vale
So when people say op revolver which version? I have an "old" one and that thing does not even have amazing stats. It just wrecks still.
open echo
So when people say op revolver which version? I have an "old" one and that thing...
ads revi with handcannon + surgical
unreal vale
Yeah it's pretty messed up. Curious about testing the speed loader one as well
brisk raft
How is Cavalcade on Bolter?
olive raven
Thanks for the input!
If I get it right your point is "most damage done comes a...
Its more for dealing damage to beefier enemies yea. Bosses, ogryns, certain elites