zealot-class

[royal vortex]

also tbf they were doing console stuff and whatnot

[ripe quest]

I was gonna make a Kantrael Shotgun one but it took 4 minutes and discord didn't let me post it

[royal vortex]

development for content should be faster now

[autumn vector]

the amount

of suppressed

i was about to slap copium on that

but

you dont deserve that

[vocal pulsar]

I think our first big content drop was mid March last year

[mighty root]

How do you use the crusher?

[royal vortex]

i mean its p obvious a lot of the darktide team's resources were going towards the class rework and console release

[frozen glen]

guide in pins

released 5 hours ago

[mighty root]

No matter how I build it it’s ass!

[autumn vector]

like a baseball bat in the zombie apocalypse

[royal vortex]

#zealot-class message this may be of interest

[autumn vector]

I think a lot went to console for sure

Im just curious what road we go for content

[mighty root]

Just use thammer

[autumn vector]

Im trying to remember when the first vermintide dlc was

[mighty root]

[autumn vector]

Naw

Crusher is great

[royal vortex]

crusher/thammer do different things

[mighty root]

[ripe quest]

Bro is still in 2022

[autumn vector]

Its quite good

link your crusher

[royal vortex]

im curious to see what form dlc will take

[mighty root]

What blessings?

[autumn vector]

start there

skullcrsuher is basically all you need

[mighty root]

I use both stagger ones

[royal vortex]

ouch

that's a problem

skullcrusher is mandatory on crusher

[ripe quest]

Missing out on 80% damage

[mighty root]

Yeah that’s what I have on it

[frozen glen]

inconsistent capitalization

death

[royal vortex]

o

what perks

[frozen glen]

b

bulwarks

[royal vortex]

yea its gonna stay that way just to make u mad

[desert coral]

hey does anoint in blood (25% range dmg buff talent) affect throwing knifes?

[royal vortex]

i believe so

there was a bug right when p13 came out where it would affect throwing knives only if you had your gun out

i believe this is fixed

[desert coral]

ok thanks!

[copper hawk]

Heh josho

What r the blessings/perks for bolter

Hey josho*

[royal vortex]

maniac/elites/flak/unyielding cavalcade/pinning fire

for zealot anyways

for vet u do surgical instead of cavalcade

[torpid pumice]

Recommended perk? Flak?

[royal vortex]

yup

[polar nexus]

someone has a link to the vacuum capsule mod?

can't find it

[drowsy steppe]

Look at Prof. Chorus over here with that 1124 kills on the Psykh

Man's holdin a class lecture on breakpoints for 6 hours

[ripe quest]

yeah it happens sometimes

[north sedge]

Hey josho, i your crushed guide is it drippings, or drippings?

[royal vortex]

it's actually drippings

[ripe quest]

i your crushed guide is it drippings

[royal vortex]

he mean "in"

meant

it's a stanism

one moment

[drowsy steppe]

I your crushed guide

[ripe quest]

im your crushed guide, is it drippings?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1191552263542558870/ezgif-3-9bddd68ba6.gif?ex=65a5da85&is=65936585&hm=bd7b734ae487141b2fb89a8e4e1e8cfc1b6a216c732abb698841da2d88d9d563&

[royal vortex]

drippings

mmm

mayonnaise chicken

[drowsy steppe]

Microwaved ice cream woohoooo

[ripe quest]

with pie woohoo

[frozen glen]

like the strike

[ripe quest]

the strike

[fading vale]

this showing ADS bug or something?

oh wait that's zarona

why is the damage so low

[royal vortex]

dude the new revolver

man

i want to like it so badly

[fading vale]

I could not get into it at all

[royal vortex]

11 small ammo, 4 large, 1 crate

[ripe quest]

It's the most optimal Crusher killing guide available.

[fading vale]

what

[royal vortex]

all i fkin did was spam revolver shots into elites

5 bullets to kill 1 rager

[ripe quest]

Feel free to look at the other two above that one

[royal vortex]

me point gun at enemy

[coarse birch]

new revo feels like ass

[royal vortex]

watch 4 bullets dance around it

fifth one hits the body despite crosshair being on head

enemy does not die

[coarse birch]

like it has more ammo and still worse ammo economy

[ornate bone]

but but but but exec stance boss one-mag kill

[coarse birch]

cause one old revo bullet does what 5 new revo bullets do

[ripe quest]

The new revolver feels like what a Bolt Pistol would feel like to me

[royal vortex]

god if boltpistol felt like that i would uninstall lmao

it just needs the fan to function better

[minor sage]

it's pretty unplayable

without deadshot

[royal vortex]

i mean it is playable kind of

if u can eat literally every ammo pack

in this part of tertium

[coarse birch]

if i didnt get sway and suppression

[royal vortex]

u can in fact deal ranged damage

[royal vortex]

give it RECOIL instead

that you can control

[coarse birch]

i might enjoy it

[minor sage]

ye you need the

[royal vortex]

because now its like

[minor sage]

suppression immunity

[royal vortex]

ur rewarded for SKILL

[minor sage]

and deadshot

otherwise it feels terribel

[north sedge]

Merry dripsmas to all

[coarse birch]

excuse me sir your playing darktide

[frozen glen]

happy birthday josho

[coarse birch]

specialist minigames ONLY

[royal vortex]

hope secretion santa gets me something good this year

[royal vortex]

mk15 evis with new revolver is uh

man

it's an experience

[coarse birch]

its uh

im not using my ranged

loadout

[royal vortex]

oh no i used my ranged

a lot

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-drips-water-gif-12190818

[royal vortex]

it was pain

[coarse birch]

yeah thats the issue

[royal vortex]

legitimately every rager pack i would shoot 5 bullets and kill one

[coarse birch]

you used new revo a lot

[royal vortex]

if i was really lucky

2

[coarse birch]

mf throwing knives are better

at dealing with them

[royal vortex]

i did use throwing knives

i literally had a part where i just threw my knives at them with the revolver out

instead of reloading

because my revolver has +maniac and can 1 shot dreg ragers with the perk

and my evis can't because it doesn't have +maniac

[minor sage]

Lul

[fading vale]

I was hating on the new revolver after it came out and there was a host of people being like, no it's good

[coarse birch]

ive heard its ok on vet

but i havent used it on vet

[minor sage]

I think its pretty good with deadshot and supp immunity

[fading vale]

and arguing it was great for specials 50m+ away

[minor sage]

Its just godawful without

[fading vale]

and I'm just like

?

[minor sage]

Vet also gets a bunch of talents

That lets u hit BPs

Like the elite dmg

[fading vale]

yeah vet ranged damage is cracked

[minor sage]

Weakspot

Ammo aura

Which make it competitive with zarona

But zealot and psyker dont have em

So stick to the zarona lol

Fury is also way less consistent of a crit source than deadshot

[fading vale]

zarona is in a weird OP spot largely cause of surgical

[minor sage]

Its pretty consistent for melee but i noticed its not up all the time you want it to be

For agri rev

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/qta0u9 @coarse birch

[ornate bone]

Agri revolver moment

I'm glad the speedloader shortened the several reloads you never finished

Truly a reloading marvel

[vocal pulsar]

Can you believe this dude wrote a 'guide'

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[ripe quest]

I have yet to find it being an issue with ammo since I'm kinda just using it like an anti-big gun and special shutdowns. Zarona will be better for smaller elites naturally with the cleave.

[royal vortex]

i just shot everything

tbh

COWBOY

literally i fired a bunch of rounds into hordes just to hear the gun go off

[ripe quest]

I have no base for this but it's like a throwing knife and current boltgun mixed with a high mobility weapon

[royal vortex]

also i forgot it had a speedloader

at the start of the match i thought i was gonna do the zarona reload

[ornate bone]

I initially expected the new revolver to be a zarona variant with no ADS, faster shooting and increased recoil

And the speedloader

But like, still dead accurate

[ripe quest]

I also run Surgical/Hand-Cannon on mine, not sure if that skews it

[royal vortex]

i have crucian

im here to BLAST

[ripe quest]

Like boltgun but I aim without a gun in my face

[torpid pumice]

Thoughts on new Evis vs old Evis?

[ripe quest]

Old is better at crowds, new is better at single target

[torpid pumice]

I'm using mk 4 chaxe and wish I had a bit more cleave, so I'm tempted to go back to Evis

[ripe quest]

Headtaker/Slaught will cover that pretty nice

But Evis will be better for crowds in general

[torpid pumice]

This is my chaxe

I just wish mk2 Evis had simpler movesets like chaxe does

[ripe quest]

It's just H1 L2 on the Mk II

[torpid pumice]

I know but I'm a caveman and like spamming one or the other

[ripe quest]

Mk XV is for you then

[sharp zodiac]

Ooga Booga hunter gatherer whatever the hell cavemen say nowadays

[coarse birch]

LOL

amazing

Also @royal vortex if your on do you want to play in like an hour

Getting tired of randos

[misty raven]

gonna see if I can win twice with the gambla

[royal vortex]

not tonight. gonna go to sleep soon

[abstract venture]

That zealot has seen some war crimes

[tender moss]

hell yea

[sharp zodiac]

I believe in you somewhat

[torpid pumice]

Recommended blessing for 15 Evis?

[sharp zodiac]

Rampage and whatever afterwards

It's preference really

[heavy arch]

crusher is the most based and high test zealot wep

[timber ether]

just ramp up impact and get bonking

[upbeat torrent]

look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

[heavy arch]

nice

how long did mission take

[upbeat torrent]

30 min

psyker took 750% ammo just to make less damage

[olive raven]

I mean what’s your point here

You ran a pub

[upbeat torrent]

our vet dont have ammo for entire game

[fleet zealot]

people flamign the twins got me like

woman and man

[misty ravine]

I've been using Rampage + Bloodthirsty on a Martyrdom build and it's been working well so far.

[tender moss]

I dident know you could live this

[tropic pelican]

you're not supposed to

it might've been stair jank

[tender moss]

God praise the emporor

[pliant palm]

should i even try and do smt with this, i don't want it bricked

[tender moss]

I mean its fun

to use the chain axe

\

[ripe quest]

why are you light spamming there

Wait that's old as shit nvm

[tender moss]

before perk overhull

[ripe quest]

I mean, you'd still use H1 PA there for shooters and bruisers

[torpid pumice]

Mk 4 chaxe is damn fun now, no doubt

[ripe quest]

I've always loved it.

[tropic pelican]

anyone else's weeklies resetting every time they log in?

[ripe quest]

The vibe is absolutely there, despite what its shortcomings were back then.

[tropic pelican]

had 3 of 5 done yesterday and now they're all incomplete

[torpid pumice]

The weeklies reset yesterday I'm pretty sure XD

Is this saveable or should I start over?

[tropic pelican]

oh, was it?

shoot

thought i had more days

[tender moss]

im trying so hard

to get this

[visual stream]

What's the consensus on the new chainsword? Looks interesting and decent enough at a glance

[torpid pumice]

I like it on vet but Zealot has better options I feel

[visual stream]

That's actually exactly why I ask LOL

Looking at it on my vet rn

[elfin thorn]

what's the difference between the two thunder hammers?

[torpid pumice]

Zealot gets more attack speed which means chaxe and evis can do more, and also the heavy sword

[waxen fulcrum]

Spammable lights for hordes and a nice strikedown heavy for catching singke targets with special

It fucks with bloodletter

[sage swan]

I put so much fucking effort into that match, I was gaming out of my fucking mind.
but those teammates didn't return ANY of the fucking effort I put in, not a single drop of it. I clutched that shit out like 6 fucking times before a hallway with 10000000 gunners killed me

[visual stream]

Crucis activated attack only hits one enemy, whether it's trash or special, but does a bit more damage on it. Ironhelm can cleave almost as many enemies as you want with its activated attack until it hits a special.

[ripe quest]

The light spam is better than the Mk IV's, and it's heavies hit decently hard. The Mk IV's heavies still are the best crowd damage for the weapon family. Pretty much boils down to Mk XIIIg for single target and Mk IV for crowd damage.

[visual stream]

Other than lil different moveset with the Ironhelm having its L1 be a cleave instead of a strikedown for better horde and its H3 being an overhead that's good for single targets, that's about it

[visual stream]

Thank you

[olive raven]

You could

Specialist isn’t exceedingly bad

[olive raven]

Check weapon guide in pins

Vin outlined the differences there

[tender moss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-40k-warhammer-darktide-gif-26929721

[visual stream]

Is this worth modifying? Debating if I would keep one of the spec/elite perks and change the other, then change one of the blessings

[tender moss]

wrath is a perk worth keeping

[visual stream]

Def dont care ab devastating

[sage river]

My brothers, the hell kind of weapons are good on this class?

[visual stream]

Most of em

What kinda playstyle is catching your eye? Can give you a better answer with that

[sage river]

[tender moss]

i just got kicked from a match for trying to get a cosmetic item

[ornate bone]

A gear item?

[ripe quest]

You'd probs swap Dev to Rampage and Specialists to Flak

[sage river]

Well, I do like guns, but I also like having the personality of a blender

[tender moss]

sorry

[ornate bone]

Oh

I mean, some are a pain in the ass, but eh

[torpid pumice]

Wanna blend? Try a mk 9 heavy sword

[visual stream]

A blender you say

[torpid pumice]

Or a mk 4 chain axe

[ornate bone]

Okay, kicking for that is dickery

[visual stream]

Grab an eviscerator

[torpid pumice]

Those two are some of my favorites and easy to use

[ornate bone]

That's like normal zealot stuff

[tender moss]

they called me a f slur then kicked me

[abstract venture]

Dudes be weird as hell sometimes

[sage river]

Oh yeah and for a gun?

I always used the flamethrower but Im not sure whether thats still just

The Option

[torpid pumice]

I like revolver or laspistol, snappy to drop specialists before going back to blending

[tender moss]

i mean the **shotgun ** is very good

[sage river]

New revolver or old revolver?

[abstract venture]

Old revolver or bolter is very nice

[torpid pumice]

Old, new is too inaccurate

[abstract venture]

Bolter is bit more niche

[sage river]

I like the blue one gameplay wise but the old one is better

[visual stream]

Columnus Mk V Infantry Autogun is a delightful little spray and prayer right now that I've recently picked up

Bolter is awesome too

If you like bulkier

[sage river]

Basically a ranged blender, Ill go with that

[visual stream]

Exactly

[sage river]

These good enough stats?

[torpid pumice]

What level are you?

[sage river]

Ammo 🤢

[sage river]

Max, just havent played in like 7 months

[torpid pumice]

Ah

It'll do for Heresy, I suppose

[abstract venture]

Oh should I pick up IV headhunter from melk for like 3k??

[torpid pumice]

But far, far from ideal

[sage river]

Yeah that ammo makes me sad

I can't brrr enough : (

[visual stream]

Get a few gearing towards mobility as the dumpstat, but if you're not gonna be shooting often then ammo is an okay dump stat too

[abstract venture]

Stability is important as damage imo

[visual stream]

Definitely not preferable but if you must make do as ammo being low

Then eet ees what eet ees

[sage river]

Have this for a chainsword

[abstract venture]

Damage, Stab, Ammo, Stopping power, in that order is my preferred

[sage river]

Low damage makes me sad

[abstract venture]

Would definitely recommend trying for something 350+ with low mobility

70% and above for all but mobility is ideal

[torpid pumice]

The blessings are good but stats are bad

[visual stream]

Are you level 30? If so I would grab more tailored stats

[sage river]

Yeah, I honestly just grabbed stuff out of the weapons lost and found and tried them out

[abstract venture]

They're a good starting point but for damnation and anything auric they might fall behind in damage purely because of the % on some stats

[sage river]

True

[tropic harbor]

Keep playing and you'll eventually pick up one with better stats.

[sage river]

I would imagine the throwing knives are pretty niche since you need enemies to either be really close or alone

[tropic harbor]

See if you can find one with a damage stat below 20%, then post it here about how awesome your weapon is and get mad when people make fun of the low damage stat.

[tender moss]

I FUCKING GOT IT

[sage river]

I think I got a weapon with a damage stat below 10% once

[tender moss]

GRAHHHHHH

[visual stream]

Fellas, I am confused

[visual stream]

If 80, why nowhere near max values?

[tender moss]

?

[tropic harbor]

Nice. There are lots of weapons with great stats, but very few with horrible stats.

[north sedge]

it's if they ever do another tier of weapon

future proofing and such

[visual stream]

Oh so the maximum value on the stat breakdown isn't actually achievable?

[north sedge]

correct

[visual stream]

Not as in 100%, but the gray numbers

[ornate bone]

The maximums it shows there are for 100%

[north sedge]

80% is 80%!

[visual stream]

I mean on the breakdown

[north sedge]

yea, max you can get is 80% of the given stat

[heavy arch]

thats 0-100% on the breakdown

[visual stream]

Okie doke

Missing 1% on damage and 3% on first target but off on a crusher breakpoint by 65 damage

I think I am going to roll for three perfect stats, emprah save me

[tropic harbor]

100% stats will be available to players in Space Marine 2, not for lowly sinners like yourselves.

[visual stream]

A crusher is an elite, correct?

[heavy arch]

based if true

im so hype for that game

[tender moss]

its done

now i need to get the other gear

[north sedge]

Yes

[rough vault]

didnt it used to be 75 percent

thats so much lower wtf

[maiden path]

hello zealot chat

[devout ember]

Well wasn't expecting that today

[tender moss]

its 25% now

[rough vault]

clearly

[tender moss]

thank god

[ripe quest]

HR caps at 25% health now.

[tender moss]

???

[rough vault]

oh thats gay

[tender moss]

how to get this menu

[ripe quest]

If it was beyond that the penance would be impossible.

[devout ember]

inspect

[tender moss]

huh

thats cool

[ripe quest]

I didn't know HR was homosexual that's news to me

[rough vault]

yeah im gay so i know what im lookin at

[devout ember]

and done.

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/plane-momma-dead-shoes-raggedy-gif-18267608

[rough vault]

[tender moss]

Nice hammer

[devout ember]

Thanks! I'm very happy with it.

[tender moss]

level 2 coming into heresy

[abstract venture]

Nice hammer big boy 😉

[tender moss]

im still struggling to find a good one

[devout ember]

Can I get some opinions on my build? Sorry fatshark made the most unshareable talent tree ever known. The last bit is in martyrdom

[north sedge]

What weapon

[devout ember]

hammer

[visual stream]

I've finally done it

[north sedge]

You should really grab twbs

[devout ember]

No clue what that acronym means

[visual stream]

I have re-obtained my mauler one shots on ironhelm

[next crow]

thy wrath be swift, i think

to prevent being stunned by melee

[north sedge]

Thy wrath be swift, makes you immune to all stagger

And ranged

Does both

[next crow]

oh nice

[summer moth]

yo melk???

[visual stream]

Believe the only exception is bomber stun

Haven't played my zealot in a while though

[north sedge]

Yea

[devout ember]

Got rid of fellowship, empreror's bullet and shield of contempt

[north sedge]

Get bleed for the emperor on the left side

[devout ember]

should I swap out that lone +15 toughness node for duelist?

[north sedge]

I did one up,can swap out sustained assault on for more tankiness if you like

Or change nades to your pref

[devout ember]

Thanks, I shall try it out!

[north sedge]

Duelist is good just dunno how to fit it with marty

[covert blade]

fire frenzy III vs full bore IV kant shot

[devout ember]

Is there much point stacking sustained assault on a hammer that has slaughterer?

I already one shot everything I'm able to test against

[visual stream]

Yes imo, helps with horde clear

And for ironhelm's sake, just helped me discover a second way to breakpoint maulers

[craggy maple]

Oh neat, creature spawner lets us solo mobs.

[north sedge]

Horde clear yea, i mean maybe it's overkill if you're at super low hp? I honestly don't play marty with my hammer

[craggy maple]

killed a chaos spawn, only got hit 4 times with no grabs. ._.'

still need more practice Q_Q

[devout ember]

I two shot a daemonhost as well.

Hrm.

[tender moss]

Single target hammer

is kinda eh to me

[tender moss]

imo i like being able to clear horeds then single target dps output

[devout ember]

Hammer does literally both

[devout ember]

What do you use on your hammer? I recently came back and picked martyrdom because that used to be like the only option

[tender moss]

depends witch one

[devout ember]

Crucis with thrust iv and slaughterer iv

[visual stream]

Crucis is a good bit slower on horde clear but can still do it fine

[north sedge]

Judgment

[ripe quest]

Why tf does that description extender fluff No Respites description? They could've just said it stacks

[tender moss]

gotta love this

[covert blade]

no clue I like the colors tho :p

[devout ember]

I was looking at fury tbh.. Crits sound funny

[north sedge]

Piety is not good on hammer

[ripe quest]

Blazing Piety doesn't do a whole lot for Thammer

[north sedge]

That's my build, can swap desperation for holy rev

[ripe quest]

If you want blunt powered object and crits the most applicable will be Crusher.

[tender moss]

crit hammer build

[wooden river]

Super late response but yes, the Rashad (and Antax, too) heavy will stagger Crushers out of their overhead if you headshot

[tender moss]

sounds funky asf

[wooden river]

it's pretty nuts

[ripe quest]

Unrelated but it's fun that Taxe can stagger any non-boss enemy.

Overhead? Special attack. Mutant charging? Special attack. Such a goofy little axe

[tender moss]

hate my luck

shit hammer

[visual stream]

I do fury, the crit CDR is a nice bonus especially when you're doing wide swings through hordes that will occasionally crit

[tender moss]

Praying to the emporor to give me a hammer

🙏

[north sedge]

The other keystones are quite a bit better for hammer

[tender moss]

have you guys 100% darktide yet

[ripe quest]

Willing to bet a handful of players have 100%'d a class.

[devout ember]

I think the one thing I'm aprehensive about is that I don't really see the backstab damage being helpful

[visual stream]

I would argue against momentum because of the effect not applying to the hit that proc's it, very lame

[devout ember]

l > h easy

I wouldn't want it to do that anyways

hit with light, dodge, activate, charge

[north sedge]

It's extremely easy to proc first

[visual stream]

True, but still lame

[north sedge]

Can also shoot gun swap back

[visual stream]

A fair pick if you're cool with doing that but I think any of the keystones work well with it

[devout ember]

So for momentum do I just not worry about wounds at all then

for relics etc

[north sedge]

You want toughness curios

Or 2 toughness 1 hp

[devout ember]

I have 3 20% HP curious

[visual stream]

You can take one wound if you feel it's needed, but absolutely never more than one wound curio if not martyr

[ripe quest]

You get 1 hit of normal damage and 8 seconds of buffed damage. You can practically breathe on anything and it'll proc

[fleet zealot]

crit hammer build is not as funky as it sounds cause A) hammer already pens most armor and B) it has a low finesse ratio

[ripe quest]

ratio

[north sedge]

Toughness simply is better if you can get a couple at least

[fleet zealot]

also you can dodge to maintain momentum which is easy

[devout ember]

Gotcha, anything else I should put on the curious then

Toughness regen I assume?

[fleet zealot]

toughness and/or hp primary, minor perks hp, toughness, and a mix of gunner and sniper resistance

no, toughness regen only affects coherency regen, which doesn't work in melee combat

[devout ember]

Oh that's... poorly worded then

[fleet zealot]

and zealot has plenty of ways to regen toughness outside of combat

i run 3 toughness, some zealots run 3x hp

[tender moss]

i want too go for all of them

[devout ember]

So with swift, gunners won't stun me?

[fleet zealot]

i don't have a strong opinion

[fleet zealot]

no

[devout ember]

Pogchamp

[ripe quest]

General picks are Toughness, Health, Gunner and Sniper Resistance, and Toughness Regen Speed. Some people opt for +Ordos since they don't need a 3rd curio perk.

[fleet zealot]

so basically, a game mechanic in darktide is if you are sprinting at an angle and have stamina, you will dodge gunfire

if you run out of stamina, bullets will start hitting you, swift lets you keep sprinting to dodge gunfire even at 0 stam BUT you still need to watch your angle

but you can circle around reapers and approach them i think someone here has a clip of it

[ripe quest]

It's in pinned, under the "what does Swift Certainty do?" message.

If you want a demo of it

[unborn heart]

ahh so that's why running headfirst into gunfire when I'm out of stamina keeps getting me killed 🤔

[fleet zealot]

yea

[olive raven]

TWBS won’t let gunners stun

[unborn heart]

I thought I wasn't believing hard enough in the god emperor

[fleet zealot]

the god emperor simply giveth thou your tools kindred

[olive raven]

tbh wouldn’t recommend toughness regen to people given how melee disables it

[unborn heart]

Good tip though I didn't know that bit about the stamina

[fleet zealot]

we are here to help you learn them

[devout ember]

How do you summon specific enemies in the jar

[fleet zealot]

modding

[olive raven]

Mod

[fleet zealot]

which is allowed and supported

[devout ember]

oh that's kind of annoying

[unborn heart]

Dirty cheaters

[fleet zealot]

at least anything on the nexus+ the WCM that's in the modding discord

[olive raven]

[fleet zealot]

nexus is moderated and I'm guessing modding discord is too, cheating mods aren't allowed

the always swing first mod was removed because it abused an exploit with weapon swapping to melee at inhuman speeds

[devout ember]

It feels so fuckin' strange only having two wounds on zealot lmao

[fleet zealot]

but full auto and auto swing mod are allowed for example

[ripe quest]

I see Tyr run it and after playing around with it it's up a good amount for larger maps. I'd rather run it than a +Health perk.

[olive raven]

Uh what talents you running

[unborn heart]

I kid

[fleet zealot]

good to train yourself for it, going down in higher difficulties can be a death sentence

[unborn heart]

Silly joke

[fleet zealot]

i am autismo

sorry

[unborn heart]

I will not forgive (I will)

[light holly]

It just seems like you could get a better perk
What are you using the toughness regen, what scenario as a zealot?

[fleet zealot]

(i have seen some really bad takes so I don't instantly think someone is joking anymore)

[light holly]

Cause I swear zealots are in melee most of the time

[devout ember]

LMAO so charge activates momentum?

ezpz

[olive raven]

tbh I’d say max one toughness regen, you just genuinely don’t need it with most builds.

High level player kits != Good to recommend to new people btw

[olive raven]

Also having until death basically makes you immortal so

[unborn heart]

The ogryn class should be naked at all times

[fleet zealot]

meanwhile i am a martyrdom chad cause I love when people see my +5 wounds

[tender moss]

i think im not liking the crusher hammer as much as the others

[light holly]

im gonna say the thing
But its probably for the best that everybody just runs a +1 wound* 😭

1 wound builds no wound curios they're satisfying

But God damn

[ripe quest]

Few maps come in mind, was just anything where gunners had presence and randoms actually pushed them. It's impact isn't like, groundbreaking by any means but it's much like a sidegrade EWEW in a few ways.

[ornate bone]

Full auto mod makes the lasguns playable for me

Absolutely obliterates my fingers otherwise

[visual stream]

With how easy it is for your first bar to be corrupted into being first-down killed sometimes, I agree that it is a solid contender

[gilded bridge]

That's not banned?

[visual stream]

I like muh 2 tough 1 hp tho

[devout ember]

I'm simply built different

[ornate bone]

Nope
It's just an auto clicker basically

[gilded bridge]

Oh

[tender moss]

AHHH I HATE THE CRUSHER HAMMER

[north sedge]

wound curio just means less defense

[ornate bone]

Yeah cos the base lasguns are all single fire but

[gilded bridge]

So full semi auto

[ornate bone]

Good luck spamming that left click for 40 minutes

Yeah that's basically what it is KEK

[north sedge]

Unless Marty

[ornate bone]

You don't actually make it into an auto gun
It just auto clicks for you

[gilded bridge]

I'm still waiting for vet to get an LMG

Then I'll main vet

[devout ember]

To be fair the 50% toughness on melee kill seems kinda nutty

[north sedge]

It's not

[ornate bone]

If we're lucky we might get the hotshot lasgun eventually

Although we've had that stupid las sniper rifle in the data for a while and that's not come out either so

[wooden river]

Blood Redemption?

[ornate bone]

Who knows

[wooden river]

it's not as good as it seems, sadly

[gilded bridge]

What's that?

[north sedge]

Second wind is the nutty one

[gilded bridge]

Ohh a hellgun

[ornate bone]

Hotshot lasgun is basically lasgun on steroids

Yup

[devout ember]

Seems to be zealot after the changes tbh lmao

[wooden river]

It's a multiplicative 50% on top of your base 5% toughness regen per melee kill

[ornate bone]

It's the thing that requires a backpack on your back

So it'll be heavier
But it should hit harder than the recon lasgun

[wooden river]

so it actually just gives you 7.5% toughness regen per melee kill

[devout ember]

Oh so it's just another thing worded poorly lmao

[gilded bridge]

Lit, I wanna cosplay a gunner so bad with their heavy armor and lmg

[ornate bone]

At the cost of actually being cumbersome

[wooden river]

Yeah basically

[olive raven]

No. This is zealot chat. Only wounds on martyr.

[north sedge]

It's only really in build to path to second wind

[ripe quest]

My perspective is if it's good for someone, people should try it to see if it's good for them. Also it's already a smaller impact curio perk, running just 1 of it amplifies that. Would be up to what the curio supports and what it has already.

[devout ember]

"Toughness regen" not being toughness regen is hilarious tbh

[gilded bridge]

Yea would be a cool tradeoff

[light holly]

[gilded bridge]

Or just give vet the ability to ride on Ogryn's shoulders and use Ogryn weps like a mount

[ornate bone]

Lul

Heavy weapons team be like

[olive raven]

It’s worded perfectly except for people not knowing you have 5% toughness on kill

[ornate bone]

Ogryn holds the las cannon

[devout ember]

Give the ogryn the ability to use the zealot as a weapon

[ornate bone]

Veteran aims on Ogryn shoulders

[fleet zealot]

I have the 20 year gaming experience at 24 hands so i wouldnt play the game at all without those mods

[light holly]

This is why folks want ratlings

[gilded bridge]

Give pysker the ability to throw Ogryn at enemies telepathically

[light holly]

Just let vets go 5'4 and there we go

[devout ember]

yeah that's a grenade if i've hever heard of one

[gilded bridge]

not the ratling gunner gang

Omg

[light holly]

[olive raven]

It’s just… so weak comparatively to other things. Hell I’d take stamina regen over it as coherency is so touch and go.

[devout ember]

erm ackewally we need space marines :))))

[gilded bridge]

Just wait for space marine 2 to come out

[fleet zealot]

My hands are fragile and overused (both also had bones broken from a van door but easier to blame the gaming)

[gilded bridge]

Sep 2024

[tender moss]

mmm

[ripe quest]

It's an accessibility mod.

[tender moss]

one more cycle

[fleet zealot]

It doesnt make a gun really full auto

[gilded bridge]

Whoa

[devout ember]

So is there a reliable way to get curios or am I just hooped waiting on brunt's shop to cycle

[tender moss]

i wish there was more fantasy warhammer games

[olive raven]

I mean Exhil, I get the point it’s just… Tyr is a highly skilled player (from my knowledge) so he knows how to properly engage it.

[light holly]

Jean stealers in Space muhreens 2 confirmed
Jene stealer cult confirmed in darktide????

[fleet zealot]

It shoots at the normal semi auto speed for that weapon

[gilded bridge]

Destiny 2 shop checking time

[wooden river]

Ogryns have more of an argument for running Toughness Regen on their curios since they get so many toughness damage reduction and regen talents as it is

[devout ember]

kinda wild we can craft weapons but not curios

[light holly]

Well check melk check brunt

[wooden river]

Plus they can reach 200+ toughness

[light holly]

It is weiird

[wooden river]

But even then, I wouldn't say Toughness Regen is mandatory on Ogryn

[gilded bridge]

Gotta make the grind insufferable

[fleet zealot]

For some like the vraks3HH yea that basically does make it full auto, but for other guns it just makes them easier to use without breaking your fingers

[light holly]

Aint it just better to run max health

[fleet zealot]

You can craft curios

[gilded bridge]

No, gunner dr is highly recommended tho

[devout ember]

with ordos

[fleet zealot]

The currency is melk bucks

[tender moss]

curios can be a bit broken depending on luck

[light holly]

Cause yeah you got ways to instantly top your toughness

[olive raven]

Like literally never

[fleet zealot]

250 random curio slot machine

[light holly]

Whaat

[olive raven]

Only in some ways is HP > Toughness at max

[wooden river]

Right now, maxing out toughness is generally better

[light holly]

Not even for Ogryn

I mwan ywah

[fleet zealot]

I got all 3 of my bis wound curios from one set of weeklies

[light holly]

Naw yall right

[olive raven]

Maybe pre fire change HP stacking would’ve been better for ogryns

Buts nowadays they should follow the same as everyone except martyr

[wooden river]

Before the recent fire rework, HP was more valuable for making big plays in the oceans of fire that auric damn likes to throw at you

[light holly]

Just better to get a billion toughness with your toughness damage reduction

[olive raven]

Which is 2x Tough 1x HP or 3x Tough

[devout ember]

2000 melk bucks

One curious with toughness 15%

[wooden river]

it's still valuable for making big rez plays, but yes, generally x3 toughness or 1hp/2 toughness is better

[olive raven]

200 toughness while still having the largest health pool is fucking insane

[fleet zealot]

A lot of people dont know this trick but if you need curios, just buy a TON of 250 rng melk ones

[wooden river]

which is a little sad since seeing 500+ health pool is very satisfying

[fleet zealot]

Sucky rng but it is doable

[ripe quest]

Most curio perks in a vacuum tend to be low impact. The resistance perks and toughness are picked so often due to them being excluded from that. It's up to the person picking their curio perks. It feels odd immediately barring a curio perk from a player when there are good players running it.

[light holly]

Well, uh you can check brunt every hour

[wooden river]

I just buy curios at melk

[gilded bridge]

Just casually check the regular shop every so often, I got 90% of my 20%s and 16%s that way

Like every 2-3 matches I'd check after the reset

[olive raven]

Not trying to bar anyone, I just wouldn’t recommend the perk in good faith for a Zealot. For a psyker or vet? Maybe. Ogryn? Probably not. (Idfk Ogryn stuff too well)

Zealot has so many toughness regen talents that relying on coherenecy isn’t a great option, especially given the tendency for zealots to be out of coherency or its effects due to melee.

[gilded bridge]

Zealot loner builds be like:
What is coherency???

[wooden river]

Ogryn tends to hang around the middle of the team as an anchor, so toughness regen while they move from cover to cover is a scenario that crops up in gameplay more often (though sometimes the correct play as an Ogryn is to rush into a big crowd and survive to make space for your team)

[devout ember]

Nah I just spent melk bucks, got 3 toughness 16%'s reset was today anyways. Sorry for asking again, what are the secondaries I want on them?

[wooden river]

whereas zealot has a lot more mobility to detach from the team, smack some gunners, then run back

[ornate bone]

Fatshark decide to be cringe and remove the damage thresholds from curios smh

[ornate bone]

My go to is always gunner resistance and combat ability cooldown

Some people advise 2 gunner res, 1 toughness increase

[light holly]

Hols on I'm sorry

But combat ability cool down is really bad

[ornate bone]

Oh yeah I know lul

[devout ember]

+5% toughness, health and was thinking gunner res

[light holly]

It shaves off at

Oh okay

That's fine

[ripe quest]

Neither of us know the skill level in which TRS suddenly becomes viable. Rather than saying it's bad I'd rather just point out it's mechanics so the person can make an informed decision. Pros and Cons n whatnot.

[ornate bone]

But nothing else I can see on it that I like comparatively

[olive raven]

My go-to is Tough/HP/Gunner Res.

Perks interchangeable with HP would prolly be stamina regen, a different resistance, etc.

Certain perks I don’t recommend such as toughness regen, combat ability reduction, etc due to them either being outclassed on Zealot or not applying quite often.

[ornate bone]

I'm just super biased even if I know that 3 combat ability downs is like
1 second at best if you're lucky

:kms:

[devout ember]

Time to farm plasteel

[light holly]

Wouldn't be bad to hit at minimum 1 sniper res

[wooden river]

1 sniper res is fine

[olive raven]

I mean when pointing out the mechanic makes it “Oh, 95% of the time I won’t have coherency regen” it’s a sorta moot point for most

[devout ember]

I find snipers really easy to dodge tbh

[gilded bridge]

It's cool to be a hipster

[ornate bone]

True

[wooden river]

it's not a make-or-break though, especially on Zealot

[devout ember]

they do a big sound and everything

[light holly]

That's fine

[gilded bridge]

I run 3 toughness regen curios on all 4 classes

[light holly]

Its like an emergency

[ornate bone]

Im too stuck in vt2 ways

[light holly]

I've played a few games where I don't even see the laser and I get domed

[ornate bone]

If I can see it I can dodge it so why I get resistance for it just get gud

But then sometimes the silent burster or invisible sniper gets me

[wooden river]

It's more that Sniper res is more applicable than the other resistances bar gunner res

[hard nexus]

i rarely eat sniper shots tbh

[ornate bone]

And I go
Oh yeah okay
Maybe I do need it sometimes

[wooden river]

Bursters are way way more dangerous as an enemy than snipers

[devout ember]

I turn into a schizophrenic when I hear the burster noise

[olive raven]

As long as you have Tough/Gunner res, your curios are fine. The 3rd perk is a whatever, though there are just some better picks.

[ornate bone]

The burster congaline

Is so fucking toxic

Legit basically unpushable

[wooden river]

If Burster Res were a thing, I'd run it on every class

except maybe ogryn

[ornate bone]

Push the first guy

[light holly]

Oh for sure

[gilded bridge]

Bursters coming out a door 2 feet from you is super common since the director's AI update

[wooden river]

even then, it's nice to have

[ornate bone]

And the 2nd and 3rd jump on you anyway

Awful

[ripe quest]

A thing to note is that having TRS doesn't make you rely on coherency regen as a source. It's a curio perk, practically QoL, it's a supplement to your performance. It's not like Second Wind where you can suddenly farm Toughness, it just makes ranged encounters smoother by increasing baseline coherency regen and reducing it's delay.

[wooden river]

When the bursters are staggered, it's really awful sometimes as a squishy class

[light holly]

It has that weird effect where you can push multiple away just spam push

It'll knock the first and before the 2nd hits you already knocked them too

[ornate bone]

Yeah definitely

[wooden river]

You'll push one and the other will keep running at you as you backdodge + slide, but then it'll blow up on you anyway because of the first burster you shoved

[ornate bone]

Just feels really bad sometimes especially if they jump at you mid dodge

Burster congalines are basically just
"I hope I have distance or I'll blow up" nowadays for me

[wooden river]

Teammates also have a fun tendency to shoot bursters right as they reach the team too

[gilded bridge]

Specialist damage reduction when

[wooden river]

Love it when a psyker channels brain burst on a single burster and it blows up on everyone hugging a wall

[ornate bone]

Only thing I'm thankful for in playing sea server

[wooden river]

instead of just... pushing it

[ornate bone]

The Chinese players I usually play with push bursters 90% of the time

So I almost never blow up

[wooden river]

Most NA players push bursters properly, but you do run into some real dinguses

[olive raven]

I mean if im engaging ranged on zealot, im likely out of coherency and out of the grace period atp.

Like yea sure you are right in giving options to people and explaining the mechanics but I just can’t see a decent reason to take toughness regen over HP, more resistances, etc

The is exacerbated by zealots being outside coherency or having it literally disabled most of the time so it’s a sorta eh perk. The QoL won’t be as seen as much as running TWBS or even Swift Certainly.

[ornate bone]

Ye

It's okay to shoot bursters guys

But let the guy closest to the burster decide how to deal with it

Don't unload on it if he decides to push it

He can shoot it on his own smh

[olive raven]

Nah shoot the bursters, ruin their day

[ornate bone]

Kek

[olive raven]

Also remember to shoot every barrel near your teammates

Especially the yellow ones near ledges

[ornate bone]

Whenever I know I have teammates like that I just stay away from the group at that point

[wooden river]

I'll legit detonate barrels from a distance before we even get there

[wooden river]

because i just know someone's going to cleave a barrel at some point and throw the game

[ornate bone]

Good practice
I should do it too

[fading vale]

I just run at the bursters and try to always be the one who pushes them through hordes, ain't trusting people with that shit, or just shoot them myself when they are far away

[light holly]

Ngl kinda wished fire barrles and yellow barrles did more to enemies

[ornate bone]

Sort of the same

[wooden river]

Fire barrels can be clutch sometimes

[ornate bone]

But I've been trusting my teammates to do it more recently

[light holly]

yellow barrel explodes
pox walker walks away

[ornate bone]

It's why I put on true levels

If I see someone with 200+ levels
I assume they can push a burster safely

[fading vale]

barrels are the best tools for trolling your teammates in premades

[tender moss]

oh come i see the most broken shit playing darktide

[olive raven]

Tbh I never shoot them cuz I use them to fuck bulwarks up 💀

[wooden river]

that's fair

[olive raven]

The true zealot way

[ornate bone]

Lone Bulwarks don't bother me
But the bulwark phalanx is cringe

[wooden river]

Bulwarks are the hidden mvp of most teamwipes

[ornate bone]

If 3-4 Bulwarks stack

[olive raven]

See as of like

[light holly]

I just kinda let the busters come to me, gotta feel put how the other players play, if someone is gonna blow up pox busters while I want to run up and push them I'm just

[olive raven]

Two weeks or so ago

[wooden river]

Bulwarks forming an iron tortoise defense around a pack of ragers/maulers

[ornate bone]

Meleeing them is over

[light holly]

Not gonna run up

[olive raven]

I ran Hs6-revolver

[light holly]

Or I'm gonna tell em

[wooden river]

are really funny

[ornate bone]

Same

[olive raven]

So bulwarks could fucking ruin me in packs

[tender moss]

Revolver you say

[olive raven]

So barrels were my best friendo

[ornate bone]

If I blow up cos a mate shoots a burster and it happens more than once

I stop being proactive

[olive raven]

Oh god.

[tender moss]

[ripe quest]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you've only described the coherency regen stopping in melee range thing when someone considers TRS. Would that not skew the perspective of the perk? It's a fairly low impact to everyone's build but I again think it's important to lay out when it helps in addition to when it doesn't. I see fresh players often talk about how ranged enemies are annoying on Zealot, listing TRS in addition to all the normal advice just seems like a normal thing to do (this complaint is partially why Ogryn picks it up, but they have an extra +75% to work with).

[wooden river]

I used to shoot bursters in beta/on release because shoving them wouldn't work most of the time

So when I came back a few months ago, I had to teach myself not to fling rumbler nades at bursters because people actually learned how to shove them + shoving them got fixed while I was away

[tender moss]

I like getting rid of barrels in case someone feels like trolling

[fading vale]

back when their stagger reset was fucked and brittleness bugged their stagger

[wooden river]

Yeah it was wack

kids today don't know how good they have it...

That was back when Muties could do their little hairpin turns

and dogs were, well, dogs

[fading vale]

and muties now are barely even a threat

[olive raven]

Yea I use that as the primary point as not having something benefitting you for most of the time isn’t something I like to run nor do I think it would be beneficial to most.

There is a good reason most regulars will not recommend toughness regen as a perk which is to being low impact. It’s better to run things that’ll actually give solid impact.

[wooden river]

Muties and dogs are so tame these days

[fading vale]

and dogs are still fucky but you can push them from like 10 meters away

[tender moss]

im going to fucking sob

[olive raven]

Muties being one shot is so fucking funny

[wooden river]

dogs will literally miss you sometimes if you stand still

even as ogryn

it's very strange

[olive raven]

Bricked so hard

Hadron railed you

[tender moss]

Feels like i just got hit with the rock

[olive raven]

Wait also that’s a less than 300 base

[south folio]

the days of bursters interacting with mutants/dogs/other bursters potentially knocking them into you 🥲

[olive raven]

WTF

[wooden river]

hadron_moaning_carnival_noise.mp4

[fading vale]

I just get annoyed when dogs skip their entire animation and insta pounce

[olive raven]

Ah yes

[wooden river]

I actually had that happen recently

[olive raven]

Fun

[tender moss]

crying sobbing

shaking

[wooden river]

Got pinballed back and forth by two bursters, straight into a mutie grab

[south folio]

esp when the dogs make a 180 turn after switching targets and imemdiately fuckin pounce

[gilded bridge]

50% of my games are lost cause of that

[south folio]

and the dog pounce knockback is still in-game, much to chagrin

[tender moss]

least i got drip

[olive raven]

don’t be rolling <370 weapons 😭 maybe roll a 360+ if it’s a god roll on good stats

[wooden river]

Yeah I've had enough games go from smooth to panic mode from barrels alone lol

[south folio]

i had a game yesterday where a dog pounce knockback launched me into a pool of fire and a chaos spawn, so I just got instantly deleted

[olive raven]

yall

[tender moss]

😭 i know for next time

[fading vale]

I'm only scared of barrels when a purg user is on the team

[olive raven]

What god awful build should I run for auric maelstrom after not playing for ten days

Need something genuinely horrible

[polar nexus]

bleed knife

[tender moss]

bleed knife

[olive raven]

that’s not horrible it’s just meh

[robust tree]

knife/flamer

[tender moss]

actualy

[fading vale]

or when josho is on the team

[south folio]

or when mankar is on the team

[olive raven]

Flamer is good 👍

[fading vale]

mk7 taxe

[olive raven]

Oh lord

[tender moss]

m

[ornate bone]

Flamer is still godly

It's just an ammo sink is the issue

But it lets me play on NA Auric at 200+ ping so I'm fine

[tender moss]

actualy whats the better chain axe

[robust tree]

two chain axes

[fading vale]

I never run out of ammo with a flamer, barely even need to pick up ammo tbh

[ornate bone]

The newer one is very very chill

[wooden river]

Stealth kantrael shotty

[sage river]

Rabid londoner build?

[ornate bone]

Horde clearing lights
Overhead elite killing heavies
Thrust heavy

The og chain axe is basically the opposite

Overhead lights
Horde clear heavies and push shove attack

Higher base damage I think

I prefer the newer chain axe though

[tender moss]

og chain axe had to go Swing swing push

[ornate bone]

Yup

[tender moss]

i got into a rhyme with it tho

[ornate bone]

Only thing I dislike with the old chain axe is that the normal lights rev

So they stick a little

[fading vale]

man remember when people called the flamer bad even when it was stronger than it is now

those were the days

[ornate bone]

Inconvenient at times
But it's fantastic

[ornate bone]

Nah man it's super bad
It just kills everything
Awful weapon

😔

[polar nexus]

you can solo hisg with a taxe and a bolter https://youtu.be/R-mqvJtpmIs?si=i4_eIpLCiwvS6U4x

[ornate bone]

Cos the recon lasgun vet needs it

[polar nexus]

that's the zealot in run with

(he carries me)

[fading vale]

I wonder if I have any old flamer pasta

[tender moss]

jesus

[tender moss]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-warhammer-40k-brick-grimdark-darktide-gif-7305957782246441871

shit

wrong gif

[olive raven]

We need something genuinely awful

[polar nexus]

lol that's funny

[tender moss]

shredder pistol is pretty bad

[olive raven]

There we go

Now we are cooking

[polar nexus]

nah

you can do worse

agri hh 9

[tender moss]

nah shredder pistol makes me want to rip my balls off

[polar nexus]

it's not awful

[ornate bone]

Would you say it makes you want to shred it off

[tender moss]

Yes

[ornate bone]

Rip
Gonna take 300 rounds to even puncture the flesh

[robust tree]

it's how they salt and pepper eggs in the morning in 40k

[tender moss]

if your playing on malice

[polar nexus]

agri hh 9 is certainly worse

[olive raven]

Oh great

Yknow it’s gonna be great figuring out the curios

[fading vale]

how about the lasgun that not the 4 or 12

[polar nexus]

Ia?

[olive raven]

I still have the stamina curios from the chain axe build

So

3x stamina curios, 3x stamina regen, 3x ordos, 3x grim resistance

[tender moss]

takes a whole mag to kill any elite on herasy with the dog shit shredder pistol

[fading vale]

autopistol is OK for ragers and specials but that's about it

[polar nexus]

not with blaze away and pinning

[fading vale]

it's flak performance is so bad

[polar nexus]

dude is writing a book

[olive raven]

Exhil please. Less words.

[tender moss]

bro is gonna write the warhammer lore

[north sedge]

More words

[olive raven]

It is 1:43am, typing this long means there is just words added for nothing.

[olive raven]

please god my eyes cannot read paragraphs

[tender moss]

WHY DOES THE RAGER DISAPIER

[north sedge]

Post all the words and drippings

[tender moss]

your eyes can only handle the hoards of chaos

[olive raven]

Prolly rag doll limit or just a bug

[olive raven]

I type

How I do

For a reason

Few words = Good

Lot of words = Bad

[tender moss]

mmm me to

[olive raven]

It also annoys Vin

[olive raven]

@gray ice fuck you babes

[tender moss]

bro is still going

[shy river]

me want use sword, which good?

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-asleep-asleep-on-keyboard-keyboard-computer-gif-15396270

exhil

[olive raven]

Heavy sword 6, deathblow + headtaker, maniac + flak

Devils Claw MK IV, I forget the blessings

[polar nexus]

rampage shred or rampage savage sweep

[tender moss]

ah yes how to live through the neck snap that is suposed to be instant death

[shy river]

thank

[fading vale]

hsword 9 is solid too, 7 is OK just weirder

[tender moss]

i wish i got good shit

Coping

[olive raven]

For the claw, do Rampage + Savage Sweep or Rampage + Shred for a crit build. Flak/Maniac

[olive raven]

You had something good but made it bad

[tender moss]

😭

[olive raven]

Just change those perks the Gunner DR and toughness

[polar nexus]

is that a youtuber curio?

[olive raven]

And boom not a half bad curios

[tender moss]

🤷‍♂️

[olive raven]

Feels like a RealAsianRobot moment

[tender moss]

Im not a youtuber 😭 i mean i am but not darktide

[ornate bone]

Both heavy swords r ok but the one with strikedown is usually better imo

Forgot which

Mk4 sword is definitely the one I remember being better

[polar nexus]

more like tanner moment

[ornate bone]

Has the strikedown, light slash clear, and op parry vs 1v1 ragers

[olive raven]

Both IX and 6 have a strikedown, I prefer the 6 due to the strikedown cycling back more easily.

7 does as well but it’s a weirder moveset

[polar nexus]

mk4 is a claw

[tender moss]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-2049-blade-runner-darktide-when-you-find-me-gif-13647306158287826208

[ornate bone]

Me when I use ut

[olive raven]

exhil please

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-white-claw-aliens-the-claw-gif-14540687

[tender moss]

Exhil

you gotta stop

@ripe quest

[polar nexus]

i used the 7 yesterday with deathblow in a piety build, well it chops heads off

[olive raven]

I feel like this is a response to me about toughness regen

That topic was

[ornate bone]

Leux like it-

[olive raven]

Like twenty minutes ago or some shit

[tender moss]

Toughness regen

If your good you will dodge

[celest cave]

Taking toughness/hp on curios? What a noob.

[open bramble]

lol

[olive raven]

Why are we adding hyphens here

[tulip valve]

[ornate bone]

Just to emphasize the pun

[tender moss]

random drops tho

[open bramble]

u dont need thise things if u never get hit hurrrrr

[ornate bone]

Facts

[random berry]

after a bunch of crap rolls we finally get somewhere.

[north sedge]

Good luck on the next bit

[olive raven]

Hadron shall ruin this.

[celest cave]

GL to fuck with Hadron.

you are speaking with a 1900 hours main vet, i can recognize garbage when i see it

[celest cave]

F

[random berry]

lmao

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/great-teacher-onizuka-gif-25044670

[olive raven]

Lmao

Got fucked right there

[tender moss]

Hadron shall rail any builds

[ripe quest]

I probably can't articulate this entirely well but my thought process is that if it can benefit some people, they should understand what it offers and its weaknesses. I personally don't run it, I understand anti-shooter movement and am comfortable with the kit to not really care much about what curio perks I'm running outside of Gunner Res as a safety net. However I differ from you in that I think that it would be nice for certain people. If some player is coming here and saying that ranged enemies are annoying, TRS should be fully laid out as an option imo.

The only reason I think I care much about this is because I believe I should list info that might be beneficial to others. My goal is to be as unbiased as possible when talking about build ideas, just straight options and why something works, why it doesn't. TRS evidently falls into the category of a controversial pick, but I only want to influence people's opinions through facts about the subject.

So, I'll list it in a curio perk list, the random player ought to at least have it as an option if they like what it offers. I'm not John Darktide enough to officially declare it a garbage perk so regardless of what I think I'll take the random S-Tier player's comment of it being good as a greenlight to at least offer it as an option to others

TL:DR I am robot beep boop I want to consolidate public opinions to give a quick list of what's considered and what isn't, and provide information about each thing on request to new players.

[olive raven]

It’s salvageable

[random berry]

i can't not get thunderstrike

[tender moss]

Skip

[north sedge]

Exhil typing his post

[olive raven]

I’m not reading all that.

[tender moss]

Alan wake

[ripe quest]

I put a TL;DR for you

[random berry]

been trying to get thrust

[lament storm]

Ain't readin'a ll that