zealot-class

[fading vale]

so I would get challenged to do dumb shit

[placid fiber]

and the plastic tasted terrible on top of it

[signal prism]

Uniroically mtn dew and whiskey go great together. It was originally made to be mixed as such

[placid fiber]

like rotten plstic with the aftertaste of hard liquor

[brisk estuary]

I can't remember what distiller it was but one guy came out and said that they drink their bourbon with sprite, booze snobbery is for chuumps

[solar gorge]

for sure

[quaint verge]

What was the dumbest challenge that you did?

[spare dome]

im an alcoholic so i got a lot of practice

[placid fiber]

long story short: Don't drink 5 o clock vodka...

[brisk estuary]

I personally love Jägermeister, the drink of frat parties and old austrian women

[dense field]

I've learned something from my living in Turkey: mixing white wine with soda is surprisingly good

[fading vale]

chugging over half a handle of fireball after I was already 8 drinks deep was the dumbest thing I have ever done in my life by far

[solar gorge]

anyway, if you're at a "proper" party you won't see any non-mixed alchool

[distant galleon]

what... i didn't know plastic COULD rot

[quaint verge]

Mine was to jump into the snow from the second floor. (3rd floor for you Americans)

[placid fiber]

I don't think it can, but, that cheap stuff sure tasted like plastic if it had somehow rotten

[fading vale]

oh god, did you break anything

[placid fiber]

before the cheap hard liquor taste kicked in

[dense field]

It can

but to a certain degree

[quaint verge]

Bend rib

[fading vale]

I like how we are starting the new year with war stories

[quaint verge]

Landed head first after like 4 jumps

[fading vale]

bruh

[royal vortex]

jesus

[spare dome]

lmao

and he kept jumping

[dense field]

Anyways, where's apparently bacteries now that can break down plastics

[solar gorge]

how do you land head first and bend a rib ?

[quaint verge]

I kinda blacked out, then I remembered a window was upside down

[fading vale]

I fell into a bonfire on my 21st birthday

[frozen glen]

are u guys ok

[dense field]

Surely that's nothing to be worried about

[placid fiber]

Btw, Lazorr, what do you think of my home? >.>'

[royal vortex]

aight

[quaint verge]

For now

[rustic lagoon]

I hit my face on a trash can passing out in the bathroom one time. I dropped when the bass dropped.

[quaint verge]

Second worst was swimming

[ornate bone]

Omg guyssss it's been a year

[royal vortex]

@hushed knoll i have taken the names you have graciously granted me

[quaint verge]

Almost drowned

[rustic lagoon]

No.

[fading vale]

these stories are from like 8 years ago

for me anyway

[solar gorge]

so you're 30

[dense field]

Guys are playing darktide Jan 1st and you're asking if they're allright

[solar gorge]

nursing home soon

[mental coral]

I'm not playing darktide wtf

I'm playing ffxiv

😄

[royal vortex]

darktide is playing me

[sharp zodiac]

I'm at a store

[royal vortex]

what are u doing at a store

[dense field]

That's even worse

[frozen glen]

is the crusher guide out yet

[sharp zodiac]

Buying stufg

[ornate bone]

Players when the ffff zeev videogame

[placid fiber]

Next think you know... you'll be playing polybridge at this rate

[sharp zodiac]

Hungry

[placid fiber]

[royal vortex]

it was going to be out last night and then it wasn't

probably today

[signal prism]

I'm at work 😩

[royal vortex]

i dont have much left to do

[frozen glen]

ok

[fading vale]

On new years day!?

[rustic lagoon]

I ' M I N Y O U R W A L L S

[mental coral]

oh yeah Josho how was getting drunk like

asking cuz I've never had alcohol

[quaint verge]

Sounds bleak

[dense field]

Fcking XIV

[royal vortex]

fun

[ornate bone]

Josh is making a crusher guide?

[dense field]

I love this game

[royal vortex]

i didn't drink too much or anything

[ornate bone]

He only has 2000 hours, what does he know

[royal vortex]

very little

mememastodon shouldve been the one

he knows more

[dense field]

It's disgusting like any other addiction

[frozen glen]

crusher is just a mid thammer

[placid fiber]

Thank God. I have a witn- I mean, uh, hi...

[signal prism]

The joys of being the department head of the beer wine and spirits

[fading vale]

ah....

[royal vortex]

yeah dude they gave it a trash rework into a headshot weapon

i am so glad i was otherwise preoccupied

and didnt have to fkin think about the fact that guy said it

[fading vale]

I heard fan the flames and showstopper do completely different things than we all thought

don't doubt my kit bro

[placid fiber]

what do they do?

[ornate bone]

Do tell

[royal vortex]

did anyone determine if the knife punch goes through bulwark shields

[fading vale]

oh it was just a..... conversation from last night that was uh yeah

[royal vortex]

im almost 99% certain it doesn't

[ornate bone]

Elaborate

Immediately

[solar gorge]

how can someone play 800 hours of the same kit

this has to be mental illness i'm sorry

[royal vortex]

he has used the same flamer for 800 hours

[mental coral]

I mean agent chaos loves bleed knives as well

[frozen glen]

me asf

[royal vortex]

dude is bleed still meta i heard it stacks itself

[ornate bone]

[placid fiber]

Showstopper just being a worse version of unchained's talent that gives burning enemies a small chance to explode is kinda funny

cause it's any enemy that dies to burn damage

[ornate bone]

Anyway, what is the knife punch thing? Like, what was the specific claim?

[spare dome]

lmao

[queen tangle]

Question;

Is "Punishment" (Melee Attacks that Hit at least 3 Enemies grant +30% Impact Strength for 5s. Stacks 5 times. At max Stacks gain Uninterruptible.)

WORTH??? while having;

"Thy Wrath be Swift" (Enemy Melee Attacks cannot Stun you. On Taking Damage, gain +15% Movement Speed for 2s.)

• You get sort of the "Uninterruptible" thing, right?
  &
  "Grevious Wounds" (+50% Stagger on Melee Weakspot Hits)
• Is stagger the same as Impact Strength? + I'm using the Heavy Eviscerator. I feel like i'm still killing small fellas too fast for a bunch of impact and with heavy attacks or just aimed fast attacks, I still stagger the bigger fellas?

[placid fiber]

those 300 densely packed slave rats? Gonna be xploding a few of em

[ornate bone]

Oh

[spare dome]

i was horrified for a hot minute there

[fading vale]

that specifically the punch bleeds through shields

[spare dome]

the power button on my tower is broken

[ornate bone]

rato

[spare dome]

just the button

[royal vortex]

+impact, stagger strength, etc all do the same thing. they're a percentage increase to your weapon's impact values

[north sedge]

That used to be a thing at launch

[placid fiber]

what on knife?

[frank night]

i see the joist has been changed again

[solar gorge]

didn't bleed use to apply to bullwarks when hitting the shield way back when

[royal vortex]

punishment is generally better than grievous wounds, as grievous wounds is a very bad talent. if you want impact punishment is the best talent for it and kind of makes the other ones pointless

[sharp zodiac]

Bought myself a pie

[ornate bone]

Punishment is mostly so you can get blazing piety or crit CDR

[spare dome]

it used to and it was funny

[frozen glen]

i will test the bulwark punch bleed rn

[solar gorge]

it doesn't now

[fading vale]

idk someone said they were gonna test lacerate punch but nobody did

[solar gorge]

don't bother

[ornate bone]

I'm gonna test lacerate punch

[left iron]

[ornate bone]

I

[solar gorge]

don't let them find out

[north sedge]

Yea it was a bug that was fixed ages ago

[ornate bone]

will put lacerate on a knife

for you twats

that's how much I love you all

[spare dome]

punch does stop rager combos now

[frozen glen]

it does not

[spare dome]

so thats nice

[ornate bone]

just give me 2 decades to load the Mourningstar on my HDD

[queen tangle]

Mmmm. Is the Impact strength also up to 150% with max punishment?

[fading vale]

wow I'm so surprised that the dude that made multiple false claims made another false claim

[royal vortex]

punishment's max is +150% yeah. you can go beyond that with other talents but there's not really a reason to

[fading vale]

impact also multiplies with power

[queen tangle]

Mmmm, that does sound quite logical. I am using a Marty build tho with my evis. Would you say that it's still worth?

[spare dome]

yes very

with either evis

[fading vale]

punishment is a solid talent

with some weapons, evis being one of them

[spare dome]

there's a bit of a mental trap in wanting to always have max punishment stacks

[frozen glen]

since i wasted my time for u guys watch me kill the bulwark with 69 dps

[spare dome]

but strictly speaking even having just two stacks means its already doing more for you than any other potential impact node

[queen tangle]

Yeah, I feel like that would be enough stagger/impact. But what about the Uninterruptible part? Is thy wrath be swift pretty much the same thing?

[left iron]

Lol lmao bleed knife user

[spare dome]

and yes both those effects are the same

the unstoppable and uninterruptable is the same effect

[fading vale]

this is why I run lacerate

[queen tangle]

Mmm, that sounds quite nice honestly

[royal vortex]

TWBS just does it better. the main draw of punishment is using it as a travel node or the +impact

[frozen glen]

ur just JEALOUS of my perfect 550 knife

admit it

[royal vortex]

but it's like a more situational TWBS in that regard

so i wouldn't really build around relying on it

[fading vale]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-sonic-fast-run-walk-gif-17514382

[spare dome]

and it's also about what else you're speccing

[left iron]

I also have a 550 flesh tearer lacerate but it has a locked in unyielding/sprint eff

[spare dome]

hell yea knife sprint efficiency

[fading vale]

lmao no stam

[royal vortex]

u always run crit chance/stamina flesh tearer/lacerate

[flat marsh]

Sprint efficiency is dumb on a knife since the move tech halves your stamina cost

[fading vale]

crit damage

[spare dome]

but you can go even FURTHER BEYOND

sprint eff on knife

three on your curios

unremitting in the middle tree

[left iron]

Bad locked perks

My weapon is ruined

[royal vortex]

i completely forgot there's a -sprint cost node

[spare dome]

and its really good

[royal vortex]

fs really just be shitting on vets and zealots

[hushed knoll]

[royal vortex]

putting that in the tree

[queen tangle]

Okok, so the Thy Wrath is better there for the not being interrupted as it's both gotten earlier and gives some utility/mobility, meanwhile punishment is a better impact/stagger than grevious wounds. But what makes punishment pretty worth it is that it's like a jack of all (both) trades

?

[spare dome]

its sprint cost, not sprint efficiency

[south folio]

always pains me whenever i have to take it to get toughness regen on all kills

[spare dome]

so its removing it from the weapon itself

and then there's the separate math

[royal vortex]

it's a very 'meh' node. if you have a free point it's nice, but it's not something you build around

[fading vale]

punishment is just the best impact talent and that's what makes it good

[royal vortex]

that or playing nurgle blessing maelstroms

[queen tangle]

Very understandable. I guess I like it as I don't like using the faster weapons like bleed knife for example.

[royal vortex]

because the +impact nullifies the -100% impact on nurgle blessed enemies

[royal vortex]

i am never voluntarily taking anything that makes me sprint for longer

[spare dome]

youre missing out

sprinting is power

[quaint verge]

ALARM
#zealot-class message

[spare dome]

power is bitches

bitches means cash money

[royal vortex]

ALARM

he did the face

oh god

[frozen glen]

so nice of stan to learn german in discord servers

[quaint verge]

New year, new objectifying

[placid fiber]

Oh god! What do I do during the alarm?!

runs around in place panicked

[royal vortex]

hide

[fading vale]

Hide yo children hide yo wife, there's a stan is on the loose

[spare dome]

oh hey one of my steam buddies got the ten in a row achievement last night

good on them

fun way to do a new year

[hollow oracle]

there is no hiding exterminatius the planet

[placid fiber]

Welp... I did the stupid in rorr I face tanked the elite snow golem as the lowest hp char in the game... basically like tanking a mauler overhead as a psyker with no hp curios and 1/3rd toughness

actually the psyker is probably better off xD

[spare dome]

nobody:
definitely no one:
my darktide launcher: what if i boot the game up in windowed mode this time just for the hell of it lol

[placid fiber]

my internet browser does that too

[spare dome]

whhhhhyyyy

so annoying to have to reset it

also i thought i was being pretty chic when i decked myself out like this

just to read reddit this morning and like ten people had the same idea lol

[royal vortex]

why do u have so many fkin dockets

GO GAMBLE

[spare dome]

i got nothing left to get

i beat darktide

[royal vortex]

i spent 3 million on crushers last night

[placid fiber]

Gimme a min Josho I'll show u mine and you'll feel better

[frank night]

he does not possess ur weaknesses

[royal vortex]

so that i could get one with +elites

this guide has left me destitute

[spare dome]

my crusher is already the platonic ideal

[royal vortex]

if it isn't crit/weakspot damage im gonna be depressed

[queen tangle]

Thanks for the help!
@royal vortex
@ornate bone
@spare dome
@fading vale

Quick lik side question tho as well.
Is "Faithful Frenzy" working correctly? (+10% Melee Attack Speed.)
I've tested it and I don't seem to swing any faster with my evis while using, and not using it 🤔 I don't know if there's a bug or lil patch i've missed. Or maybe my gaming chais is just too bad.

[spare dome]

well

ur not plato

[frozen glen]

u spent 3 mil on a weapon that only has 3 blessing combos

[frank night]

redverse

[royal vortex]

its about the perks

[spare dome]

what would u know about the ideal form of things

[royal vortex]

buddy

[placid fiber]

@royal vortex I spend it when I got it lol

[spare dome]

but no it does not have those things lmao

[royal vortex]

my brain is now filled with useless information about stagger breakpoints

[frozen glen]

yes but the small blessing pool would make it easier

[royal vortex]

it should be? i've not heard anything about it working incorrectly from anyone else

[spare dome]

isnt it great? i cant do any smalltalk at work but i know the breakpoints for every weapon in a video game

[royal vortex]

evis is a particularly slow weapon

[frank night]

congrats on changing out your collection of useless info

[royal vortex]

dockets

u fkin idiot

DOCKETS

at BRUNT

[royal vortex]

what was it before

do not "think back" me

[frozen glen]

josho

im gonna make u drink 90 proof

[spare dome]

i got this thing like eight months ago

[frank night]

reflect on the past

[spare dome]

and then they buffed them

[royal vortex]

thats p based

[queen tangle]

Damm, too bad I guess. Thanks tho

[spare dome]

it has funny number and everything

[royal vortex]

i have collected quite a few

[quaint verge]

Josho these past few days on his crusher quest

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[frozen glen]

its holidays

go easy on him

even though he'll be doing the same thing this whole year

[frank night]

cast them into the fire

[royal vortex]

i wonder what the 111111 guy did for new years

[royal vortex]

no what the fuck???

[spare dome]

i wonder if theyre like

[mossy scarab]

Probably ate glass and poured wine on his cat

[spare dome]

playing exclusively left nodes

[royal vortex]

maybe he stopped playing when they ruined the talent system

[spare dome]

maybe i should play exclusively left nodes

[mossy scarab]

Guys, he was clearly on another level than we were

[spare dome]

exactly

i shall test

[mossy lodge]

https://youtu.be/1DOjYyc5QAs?si=jalJYXtDp_1HZsW3 funny video

pd: Love you all fucking monkay

[placid fiber]

Over 1500 hours in this game and I am only just now realizing this is telling you who is going to be talking to you during the mission.

[keen silo]

how good is martyr's purpose?
is its effect visible while playing

[north sedge]

Terrible

[mossy scarab]

Oh.

[spare dome]

its visible but it isnt great

[faint sphinx]

So is there a new trend of POS stealth zealots running all the way ahead and just dumping everything they spawn on the other three?

[spare dome]

yea just votekick or leave

[faint sphinx]

Just had it happen. Fucking most annoying thing I've ever encountered in this game.

[keen silo]

how many stacks of martyrdom is ideal to play with?

[faint sphinx]

I tried to vote kick twice, but it failed. Guessing the POS was teamed with one of the others.

Explicator-Vex was the asshole's name. Hope you don't run into him.

[ornate bone]

As many as you can not die with

[sharp zodiac]

That pie was great

[solar gorge]

there's never enough martyrdom stacks

[quaint verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chewing-character-chewing-character-hd-chewing-character-hd-gif-22077966

[faint sphinx]

The pie is usually a lie. Unless it's pumpkin.

[sharp zodiac]

It was apple

I bought two pizzas, I got a lot of meat on one and my friend got a Hawaiian

[keen silo]

also uh
whats the use of rashad's special attack?

any particular purpose?

[royal vortex]

staggering stuff

basically a worse push attack

[spare dome]

ragers

but yes

it doesnt really have a purpose cause its outclassed by the pushattack

[solar gorge]

time to level up evis to get that fucking wrath t4

[frozen glen]

you use it cuz it looks cool

[keen silo]

is the heavy atk the main reason people love rashad?
also does the heavy stagger special mobs like crushers/bulwarks or nah

[solar gorge]

-12k plasteel just to get wrath t4

not worth it

[north sedge]

Ok now just get sav sweep

[solar gorge]

that's what i replaced with wrath

[north sedge]

People like rashad cause it kinda does everything

🤔

[solar gorge]

axe boring tho

[north sedge]

Why wrath

[solar gorge]

better tha swip

[spare dome]

Yeah. Kinda anyway.

[solar gorge]

i don't have to hit 3 things to get the cleave up

it's very easy to maintin since you just have to click once

[spare dome]

Keep you going against bruisers

[north sedge]

🤔

[fleet zealot]

that's the thing tho

you dont need cleave

vs 2 or 1 targets

sweep is always active when needed

wrath has to scale up and then it will sometimes just drop itself cause lol

[solar gorge]

i need cleave all the time

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[sharp zodiac]

Nuh uh

[solar gorge]

what are you going to do when 3 maulers

piss yourself

[fleet zealot]

proc sweep

[sharp zodiac]

Take em out

[fleet zealot]

in one swing

[sharp zodiac]

To a nice bar

[solar gorge]

you can't proc sweep with 3 maulers

[fleet zealot]

that sounds like heresy kindred

[spare dome]

evis II is best just light mashing

[sharp zodiac]

Nuh uh

[spare dome]

so wrath is more brain off

[sharp zodiac]

It's ok if I do it

Not anyone else

[fleet zealot]

if there is just 3 maulers and no other trash and I can't proc sweep somehow (?)

i'm just gonna do something called

kill them with the rev'd heavy

[heavy arch]

i got accused of being toxic because i ran ahead and did all the scanning objectives on my own

[fleet zealot]

LOL bole

[heavy arch]

"we'd go faster if you stayed with group"

[solar gorge]

or you could have wrath and just shit on them

[fleet zealot]

sorry that happened to you

[fleet zealot]

you have pathetic rabbit shits, pretty sure 3 rev'd attacks are faster than bumping them to death

[solar gorge]

nah

[wanton shell]

Hey, I’ve been wondering lately: does eviscerator really need more cleave? What effective difference does the extra cleave provide?

[solar gorge]

it helps hitting stuff

[fleet zealot]

mk2 uses cleave

helps with the total amount of enemies you hit/kill/damage

mk15 doesn't use cleave since it has a hard damage cap of 4 enemies

[solar gorge]

without cleave you're missing out on turbo horde clear

[fleet zealot]

turbo horde clear of doing no extra damage?

[solar gorge]

on the mk2

glue eater

[fleet zealot]

i literally said mk2 wants cleave

god damn did you leave your brain in 2023?

[solar gorge]

i'm talking to apm

the guy who asked me something

[wanton shell]

I’ve been using the mk 2 mostly myself and I feel it cleaves through hordes pretty well on its own. Buy maybe that’s because of some other blessing or talent?

[solar gorge]

what diff ur on

[wanton shell]

Damnation

[fleet zealot]

mk2 has great horde clear on it's own, but it is definitely improved by having sweep/wrath stacked up

[solar gorge]

basically what they said

[fleet zealot]

it isn't "needed" like cleave is needed on some other weapons

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/madness-combat-shut-up-bro-your-weird-shut-up-bro-ur-weird-deimos-kicked-gif-15358081994503480456

[solar gorge]

you're just missing out on having a better weapon

[wanton shell]

Alright. Thanks for clarifying!

[solar gorge]

if you'd rather have something else than a cleave blessin you have the other evis

that can get the funny crusher oneshot with bloodthirsty

[wanton shell]

Does the extra cleave do much when dealing with flak and elites? Or is it mainly unarmored and infested?

[placid fiber]

The thing I don't get is... how tf did I do so little damage? :/ Maybe it was because I was heavy attacking instead of mostly just light attacking...?

[solar gorge]

it's with everything really

but more noticable on armor

[placid fiber]

Had a gorgon and brunts basher and the heavy hitter keystone even

[light holly]

This is zealot chat

🥹

[placid fiber]

No way

[light holly]

Could be better served asking in ogryn

[solar gorge]

pro-tip to farm ogryn dmg scoreboard like some kind of elf is to never play with ur melee weapon

and use PBB

and right tree basically

[wanton shell]

More noticeable as in it makes a bigger difference on armour than trash horde?

[solar gorge]

yes

[mossy scarab]

Are you implying Zelchat is unhinged?

[solar gorge]

because with like bruisers, the bald dudes in flak with maces, you'll be able to hit way more

[light holly]

If you wanna do damage as ogryn just take I dunno fucking Kick back

[solar gorge]

without cleave ur weapon just kinda stops

[clever zealot]

What should I change about this dagger on zealot?

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-the-punisher-wait-no-panicking-gif-22139346

[heavy arch]

can people stop giving advice on backing up

[solar gorge]

kickback so good it's boring

ridiculously overtuned

[heavy arch]

ive noticed a lot of reddit posts about it and pugs backing up every god damn encounter

[mossy scarab]

You really should backup your important documents

[light holly]

What are they backing up

[clever zealot]

should I replace ruthless backstab with flesh tearer?

[fleet zealot]

cause cowards/other games encourage it

[heavy arch]

like if a horde arrives theyll fall back to the previous section

[wanton shell]

I should test that! Savage sweep seems to be preferred before wrath but why?

[solar gorge]

there's situations when you want to back up, ofc it's not the answer to everything

[fleet zealot]

mercy to pregog, ruthless to uncanny

[light holly]

What the reddit

That's weird

[fleet zealot]

wrath needs to be stacked up in multiple swings and cleave doesnt' help vs 1-2 targets anyways

[solar gorge]

I'd say wrath is better actually

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/monte-python-run-away-get-out-of-here-escape-running-gif-4399862

[fleet zealot]

sweep is a continious buff thtat you don't lose if you miss a swing, like wrath will dissapear

[mossy scarab]

People do that? Why?

[fleet zealot]

and it's full in one swing

[solar gorge]

Wrath works in more situations than savage eep

[heavy arch]

i dont know but ive noticed so many pugs doing it

[fleet zealot]

there is good reasons to back up slightly at times, for a good chokepoint

but this is an aggressive game

[heavy arch]

theres finding a chokepoint and then turning tail and running to find a choke point

[fleet zealot]

this is cope btw, don't let the false prophet lie to you

[heavy arch]

ridiculous imo

[solar gorge]

It's absolutely true

[mossy scarab]

Yea, getting to a safer spot that's immediately next to you is smart, but in general, the longer you stick around the more fucked you get.

[fleet zealot]

yee

it's an aggressive game, push forward

[strange kestrel]

What is the argument

[heavy arch]

some ppl dont see darktide as aggressive push forward game

[wanton shell]

I’ve heard that penetration and cleave are additive and caps at 100. Or is that cleave damage perhaps?

[strange kestrel]

I want to give my unnecessary input

[clever zealot]

Why's that?

[mossy scarab]

These people probably have no idea what aurics are like

You push through the horde of specials and disablers or you die, because it doesnt end

[clever zealot]

so true

otherwise they'll just pile up

[fleet zealot]

ill explain the mechanics in a minute doing a quest rn

[heavy arch]

id rather lose a run going balls out than spend 45 minutes playing slow and steady

[wanton shell]

That would be very kind. No rush at all 🙏 I’ve tried to digest j_sats videos on the damage mechanics, but it’s really a handful. Just realised it is the cleave damage stat that overlaps with penetration.

[ember yew]

but what weapon did you use?

[ornate bone]

https://fxtwitter.com/Fujyno/status/1741691021438673154

[mossy scarab]

My news years resolution is to eat better and.... oh hey. BBQ wings

[fleet zealot]

i wanna spoil myself with sushi or good bbq

[strange kestrel]

My new years resolution is to get a trackhawk a scat pack and a camaro

🕵️

[heavy arch]

yikes

[mossy scarab]

I mean I've got the scat part down

[sharp zodiac]

Huh?

[fleet zealot]

HUH

[strange kestrel]

Lol

Same

[heavy arch]

to the camaro

trackhawks are pretty cool

[mossy lodge]

lol

[strange kestrel]

You dont like camaros?

[heavy arch]

i like being able to see

[quaint verge]

I think I just got kicked by people who don't do objectives

[steep flame]

Epic book haul

[strange kestrel]

Camaros are my fav muscle car

Also the charger daytona

[mossy scarab]

Was your objective to wake up every demonhost?

[steep flame]

I like ford escorts

[quaint verge]

At the last event too

[mossy scarab]

Were you being a dick?

[quaint verge]

Repair mission with the circular lift

[strange kestrel]

In an alternate universe i am a multi millionaire and i can afford any car i want

[quaint verge]

No, just out DMG everyone :v

[placid lily]

[quaint verge]

While spamming vacuum capsule

[strange kestrel]

Weird

[rustic lagoon]

A new year has begun, kindred!

[quaint verge]

Nope, just playing

[mossy scarab]

My group kicked a guy once as the extraction ship landed because he spent the entire run bitching us out and playing like 1000 miles away from us

[visual stream]

I just died because bots don't know how to shove bursters and it exploded just within the radius to damage me

[sharp zodiac]

What the flipnarp

[quaint verge]

I got cut off by a wall of bulwarks, and that's about it

[strange kestrel]

Bulwarks....

[quaint verge]

For being too far away from group

[fleet zealot]

HMM fuck i want that bbq from a local food truck but ti's the middle of winter

[strange kestrel]

My arch nemesis

[steep flame]

Thats goated bbq weather

[fleet zealot]

but i could kill and die for some brisket cheese fries

[mossy scarab]

My butcher shop in town has a food truck and they stick around all through winter

[fleet zealot]

yea but they aren't open

[violet hornet]

I've seen people get kicked because they wouldn't stop killing horde and get in the extraction ship

[steep flame]

Massive loss

[strange kestrel]

Scoreboard warriors

[mossy scarab]

Gotta get those green circles

[strange kestrel]

I always votekick them

[fleet zealot]

most montana food trucks close for the season, and some of our ice cream shops close to

[quaint verge]

At least thats ok.

[steep flame]

Ive never been or seen anyone get kicked

[strange kestrel]

Its not its annoying they stay there until they run out of ammo

[quaint verge]

especially after ignoring warnings about vote if they dont stop

[sharp zodiac]

I've seen one guy get kicked for being afk too long

[ripe quest]

I've also seen people get kicked because those horde killers are trolls and stall the game until someone leaves lol

[visual stream]

I like having fun on my way out of a mission, but def not gonna just stand there and kill

[sharp zodiac]

And ended up costing me a contract

[ripe quest]

Duality of dumb

[north sedge]

the best kick i've had was this pub group, had this vet that ran ahead and got his shit kicked in all the time and just didn't heal when he should have, and talked shit all the whole time

[sharp zodiac]

Barbecue bacon burger

[north sedge]

killed the captain, as the fade to black happened someone silently vote kicked, and without a word we all just hit yes

[mossy scarab]

The ones that always need to "HOLD THE LINE" so their teammates can get out. Like... guy. Just leave.

[north sedge]

and he got kicked before he got credit

[fleet zealot]

Ok, so basically, I'm not gonna dive too much into the cleave/armor penetration thing but I will say this. Different weapons have different effectiveness into different armor types. This includes both damage, and how effective your cleave is

[sharp zodiac]

The equivalent of curtains closing and see little bits of a group beating the shit out of the loud kid

[mossy scarab]

Or the ones that need to run back to res the guy who just spawned on the rescue point on the far side of the room instead of just stepping 3 feet back into extraction

[fleet zealot]

some enemies count as 6 or even more enemies for the purpose of cleave, and if your weapon doesn't have enough cleave, or you ran out of cleave from hitting previous enemies, your weapon will get stuck

How we factor in whether getting a cleave blessing is good or bad on a weapon is how it helps your dps

[queen tangle]

Question;

Is "Fortitude in Fellowship" (+25% Coherency Toughness Regeneration) worth it?

What I know, there's a 3 second delay after losing either all toughness or leaving coherency with your team before your toughness starts to regen again. Does Fortitude count as the classic "Toughness Regeneration Speed" from Curios which makes the timer go lower from 3 sec.

Or is it the amount. I think it's like 5% toughness/second or something like that. Which would make it 🤔 6.25% toughness/second?

If it's like the Speed, then it should be worth it, but if not?

[fleet zealot]

the heavy swords for example have such a great cleave stat baseline, that it doesn't get any major benefit from cleave blessings

[fleet zealot]

it's both

iirc

[queen tangle]

Frfr?

[mossy scarab]

No. IMO it's not worth it since every other form of toughness regen is better, including just mudering dudes

[fleet zealot]

i might be wrong

[mossy scarab]

But it's also not worthless, so dont be afraid to grab it if it's on the way

[north sedge]

coherency regen also doesn't work when in melee

[fleet zealot]

but for zealot it typically isn't good to build around coherency regen cause we are melee focused

[north sedge]

i mean your option is between that and 20% dmg to unyielding/infested

[queen tangle]

I'm thinking that as weel, because if it's just 6.25% toughnes regen/second, then erm, no thanks. But if it helps the delay, then it's pretty coo. Especially if you're also running 3x 30% Toughness Regeneration Speed curios, which is like 90% + 25%

[fleet zealot]

but toughness coherency regen on curios reduces the delay before toughness regen starts AND the rate of regeneration

[mossy scarab]

You should not be running 3x toughness regen curios

[fleet zealot]

so I assume it is the same for the talent

yee, toughness regen curios are kinda wasted on zealot

[queen tangle]

😭 Don't worry, ruh. It's not like it's my baby. I don't have a special attatchment to it

[ripe quest]

The delay scales with +toughness regen in addition to how much flat toughness you gain. It's additive with +toughness regen from curios iirc.

[queen tangle]

Both or just the Unyelding, cuz I feel like I can swap away from the regen thing

[queen tangle]

Fr? 😩

[mossy scarab]

Zealot wants to stack Toughness for regular play, or wounds for martyrdom builds. Just stacking raw toughness will ensure you take the least amount of chip damage from stray hits and you'll get more back from kills since all your restoration is % based

[light holly]

Iirc if it works similar to just toughness regen curios, it'll only regen outside of melee

As well

[ripe quest]

I'm so conflicted with this because I've seen people like Tyr running 3x TRS on Zealot so idek

[queen tangle]

But it's like, super cool

[fleet zealot]

yee, I think ogryn is the best for coherency regen, or they used to be cause you could easily get a ton of coherency regen+massive coherency range

[wanton shell]

Got another eviscerator question. One of its tags are “unstoppable “. Is that the same unstoppable as is referred to in the punishment talent?

[mossy scarab]

If you're good enough you can do whatever you want, but the average player, like me, who's not top tier, will get more out of raw toughness

[ripe quest]

I've done like, basic solos with it just to feel it out and it's up more often than some people think for sure, but it's just like only really cool for Shooters and you need to full focus TRS for it to feel impactful.

[fleet zealot]

i honestly dont know what the tag means but it isn't Unstoppable the passive you get from punishment

i think it just means the type of attack?

[light holly]

Its not useful

[north sedge]

i go down that path and i never take coherency

[light holly]

You make more mileage out of gunner res

You want to take less toughness damage rather than regen it faster

[fleet zealot]

without punishment or thy wrath be swift, you can be hit stunned out of eviscerator

[delicate shadow]

you can pretty safely ignore weapon tags for the most part ngl

[fleet zealot]

^

[visual stream]

I wish dogs did not instantly corrupt your health on landing, but I guess that's the main threat of them atp

[light holly]

Especially for zealot you're always in melee

[visual stream]

Other than disabling

[fleet zealot]

dogs need it

they are so easy to deal with

[ripe quest]

I fully understand why Ogryn likes stacking the shit out of it up to +190% since half of them stack HP curios meaning you get full toughness after being damaged in like a few seconds for free (in addition to the other for-free toughness regen it's kinda impossible to run out). On Zeal it just goes to +115% so mmmm

[visual stream]

Yeah

[fleet zealot]

easily the least scary special

[queen tangle]

It is really cool, istg, kinda make me feel warm n shi.

[mossy scarab]

Weapon tags just kinda describe what the weapon is good at. They don't have any mechanical elements

[visual stream]

Them also giving the dogs a sped up leap that they do randomly also makes them a bit scary sometimes

[queen tangle]

[visual stream]

The one where they run directly into a leap instead of pausing

[tight fog]

chocob seems to run toughness regen speed on zel

[ripe quest]

Gotta stay on your toes, esp when the dogs are already always on their toes and they have more than you

[wanton shell]

I hate the inconsistency of terminology in this game. And the lack of explanation and clarification regarding it all. Thanks!

[ripe quest]

ChocoB has run some of the weirdest builds before so idk how concrete that is

[solar gorge]

Don't pay attention to those, they don't mean much

[visual stream]

Torrent gotta be top 3 lamest beginning of missions at least

[queen tangle]

But 90% is a pretty coo number tbf

[ripe quest]

His shit always feels like "look at how much fun I'm having with this build" more than "you guys should try this build"

[mossy scarab]

Zero point in toughness regen speed on zealot when FotF refills it instantly, murder refills it very quickly, Choire does it for your whole team, and even stealth has some regen mechanics and zealot is the best class in the game at resetting their cooldowns

[fleet zealot]

me too thanks

[solar gorge]

because it is basically

[fleet zealot]

90% isn't even half

uhh it's weird to explain

but it isn't reduce the delay by 90%

it's increases recovery rate by 90%

to get twice/half as effective toughness regen stat, you need 100%

[visual stream]

Wait until you find out about the hidden mechanics of talents that aren't listed even slightly

[fleet zealot]

fuck me typing that out made me wanna brick my head

[fleet zealot]

no i known

i know too much

[ripe quest]

In terms of the delay yeah but the actual toughness regened is a proper increase

[visual stream]

LOL

[mossy scarab]

It's the difference between cooldown rate and cooldown time

[tight fog]

i feel like i normally do drop back into coherency for a sec with zealot so it;s nice to get your toughness back quicker

then go and start pogging again

[fleet zealot]

or you can chastise or kill more things

[queen tangle]

So, I need 100% to lower the delay before my toughness starts to regen in coherency?

[north sedge]

there's so much toughenss regen in combat

[fleet zealot]

imo only a stealth build benefits from toughness regen perks

[tight fog]

well im normally trying to do that too

[mossy scarab]

cooldown rate in games that use it has diminishing returns built in so you can never reach absurdly low cooldown times, so there's no need to cap it

[ripe quest]

I like it a good amount on some of the larger maps.

[north sedge]

i've never gone into coherency for regen, on any character

[fleet zealot]

ogryn it is good

[ripe quest]

You can def do both at the same time.

[queen tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-sweating-sweating-bullets-sweating-gif-17507069

[fleet zealot]

especially the funny fatshark forgot how to do math patch

[queen tangle]

Well..

[fleet zealot]

where ogryns could hit like 720% coherency regen

it was like, 1.7 delay from 0 toughness to full

[visual stream]

Still sad that they made crushas and maulas tankier

But it is fair, even if sad

[sharp zodiac]

Now that I have two coffees and a Gatorade I think its necessary to have one more drink on the table

[sharp zodiac]

Macaron

I

[mossy lodge]

i want to know too

[clever zealot]

Is executor good on knives?

[left iron]

It do be cold

[frosty herald]

Gatorade in france?

[clever zealot]

It seems like it would be, but idk

[north sedge]

luna is in the states at the moment

[left iron]

Fahrenheits for people incapable of using sensible measurements

[frosty herald]

I like gatorade

It tastes good

[heavy arch]

gatorade blue

blue best flavor

[sharp zodiac]

I'm still in NJ

Had a red

[frosty herald]

Red40maxxing

[north sedge]

Freezing here too

[ripe quest]

It's kinda ok. Precog will outdamage it though.

[sharp zodiac]

I'll be leaving in a week or 5 days

Then I'm going the fuck to sleep

[left iron]

[heavy arch]

sleep during vacation

thats the best sleep

[sharp zodiac]

The sleep has been loud because my roommate stays up extremely late

Hell if someone told me he was a vampire I'd believe it

[gray ice]

Yea ik what you mean

Don't know how people are outside frankly

[ornate bone]

Fair

[heavy arch]

67 is tank top weather

[gray ice]

Dude 50 is tank top weather

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dracula-rising-wake-up-black-and-white-gif-17493765

[heavy arch]

nah 50 is when my nips go hard and poke thru the shirt

[visual stream]

Guys guys I discovered a new Original Experience

[heavy arch]

so hoodies

[brisk estuary]

here's a question, is it worth adding +damage to unarmoured targets to blunt weapons seeing as they already penetrate or is it better to just double down on damage to armoured enemies?

[gray ice]

You don't add unarmoured on anything except maybe knife

[brisk estuary]

thanks

[gray ice]

Flak will generally be the best perk for a weapon due to density of flak enemies

So if you can only change one, flak will give you the most mileage typically

[brisk estuary]

I think I have both flak and carapace on my crusher

I might change one out to elites or something

[gray ice]

Change one to maniac if you can

[light holly]

Homies a night owl fr

[gray ice]

Or just show crusher so I can see it

[ornate bone]

perfection

the part where everyone drops dead at the same time is icing on the cake

[visual stream]

There was also this triple kill the match before, because bots dodge bursters instead of shobing 🥲

[clear knot]

vin ur so hot

[ornate bone]

triple kill

[vocal pulsar]

@royal vortex

Is it done

[gray ice]

Thank you, I do my best

[ornate bone]

bursters killing you honestly feels the worst

fucking awful special

[royal vortex]

almost

[ornate bone]

especially when it's a burster horde

you're jsut fucked

[royal vortex]

i added a section about ranged weapons

that i have to add the ranged weapons to

[ornate bone]

Push one and the 2nd or 3rd are like

[vocal pulsar]

Good. This gives me time to finish my hit piece on you

[sharp zodiac]

Even when you don't die getting hit by it is always so annoying

[gray ice]

Happy new year to el resident zoe

[ornate bone]

YOU CAN'T PUSH ME COS UR DODGING HEHAERUAEHFUHSDHGSUFG

And then fucking blam you anyway

awful

[vocal pulsar]

To get you vilified, exiled and cancelled from the darktide community

[visual stream]

Bonus clip of a dog Return to Sender-ing a burster

[royal vortex]

😔

[ornate bone]

hahahahaha okay that made me fucking laugh

dude just went
No

[mental coral]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/bS8QcdMs87

This was hard to watch ngl

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/plauge-be-upon-ye-gif-27019320

[vocal pulsar]

I have 347 pages of documented evidence of your crimes and misdeeds

[mental coral]

Only 347?

[brisk estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-gravemind-monument-to-all-your-sins-flood-cutscene-gif-5367290381707139366

[ornate bone]

man that burster swarm is actually ptsd lmao

[sharp zodiac]

Not sure why it didn't explode on me or dive

[ornate bone]

especially when they conga line and just don't give a shit

[visual stream]

WHAT I have never seen that many at once

[left iron]

I almost got dogged because i was laughing

I was losing my shit

[ornate bone]

same it's always funny seeing other people get burstered

but it feels awful when it happens to you

at least fatshark mostly got rid of the burster ignoring shoves

[visual stream]

I've been getting this a lot recently, they just don't go to detonate and waste time by making you shove

[sharp zodiac]

They just forget how to release

[ornate bone]

seems like it dropping down from the ledge screwed with its ai

[left iron]

I laugh when i die too, its usually hilarious

[ornate bone]

sometimes bursters just defy logic

[sharp zodiac]

Scared the shit out of me I won't lie

[ornate bone]

my favorite is when you shove them and then they don't explode and awkwardly stand up and then goes

OKAY WHERE WAS I

or when your teammate keeps shooting it right when you're about to shove it

[sharp zodiac]

My brain didn't even recognize the burster midturn

[ornate bone]

Okay that was pretty funny

Tzeentch just dropped a bomb on you

[visual stream]

I didn't know bursters were this silly all along

[ornate bone]

they're nurgles silliest soldiers

especially with how they have a habit of tossing me off maps

[quaint verge]

Surprise pop

[left iron]

Sometimes they've strapped touch sensitive explosives to them

[left iron]

That ones the surprise lmao

[ornate bone]

This clip is actually even worse

if you slow it down

the burster at the back is the one that exploded

probably cos it sensed the pusher was in range

[quaint verge]

You laugh when you die, but get sad when forced to solo clutch

[ornate bone]

burster congaline cancer

[left iron]

Yes, because i have people watching

[ornate bone]

it's the guy at the back who exploded lmfao

[left iron]

It makes me perform worse

[ornate bone]

I like clutching

but darktide clutching is way harder than vermintide

I blame gunners

[quaint verge]

Weeeeeee. Me as the psyker

[ornate bone]

nothing makes me shit myself more than gunners eating my entire toughness bar

everything else I can melee to death with good shoves and fury procs
but gunners?

rip

[sharp zodiac]

Had two poxbursters rush me

First one didn't blow up

Second one my game suttered and then by the time it regained its footing it was too late

[quaint verge]

[visual stream]

That's the only reason why I yelled in just the second clip because I just finished clutching on the auspex for like the last ten minutes

[ornate bone]

hahaha nice

[visual stream]

Not nice 😔

[left iron]

I STILL HAD IT

Until i didnt

[quaint verge]

[left iron]

On the third time i had to try

During the same map

[ornate bone]

Nurgle gave you the You Tried stamp

[sharp zodiac]

Sometimes tho I'll just have moments where I'm stupid

I thought it was just a flamer

[left iron]

More burster stuff

[visual stream]

Happens to the best of us rejects

[sharp zodiac]

I've had it happen twice

I really like meleeing doors

Like a lumberjack coming home

[left iron]

If you're standing a bit to the side of a door, instead of directly in front of it, burster explosions wont hurt you

Through the door

[sharp zodiac]

Should've told that to past me

[left iron]

Well, now you know

Stop blowing yourself up

[deft garnet]

Happy new year zealot chat

[sharp zodiac]

I'll still blow up

[deft garnet]

Been on break from darktide for a bit since granblue came out

[sharp zodiac]

Now out of spite

[left iron]

I gave up on Ferry, 66L and the new stuff given to rushdowns made it feel horrible

[deft garnet]

Im carried by zeta

At least shes the most honest top tier put of the top tier choices

[left iron]

Sure,sure

Im playing Percival now

[deft garnet]

Hey man it takes REAL skill to press my ultimates

[left iron]

At least i can beat people with just fundamentals

[deft garnet]

But percival is kinda ass

[left iron]

Yes

But im fine with that

[deft garnet]

I respect it

If gamera can reach masters with anila

[left iron]

All the ultimate skills are awful, except the fireball

[deft garnet]

You can play percival

[hard nexus]

what r u guys talking abouty

[left iron]

Granblue Fantasy versus

[left iron]

I made it to S rank today with Percival

I fiddled around with Nier for a bit, and my god she is braindead easy

[deft garnet]

Ive been lazy but im steamrolling through S rank atm

Could've probably hit masters if I wasnt busy with work

[left iron]

I had a character crisis for a bit, so i have like

10 hours on Percival?

[deft garnet]

I wanted to play narmaya at first

She's chilling in s+

But shes too honest

For my taste

Anyway back to work I go

[left iron]

Wdym you cant deal 10k in midscreen out of a armored move?

[fierce kayak]

does any1 have like a cheatsheet to what weapons require which modifiers so be efficient? for example combat knife, should i go finess over dmg or what? thx for help :)

[left iron]

Check pins,

[fierce kayak]

oh thanks

[fleet zealot]

wtf

[left iron]

Do you mean stats on the weapon? In that case, always dump mobility or defences, max everything else

[fierce kayak]

i do

[fleet zealot]

knife dump stat is mobility, then you can dump some penetration cause you always go uncanny strike

also ranged weapons you can dump collateral to around 60%

[left iron]

Flamer is an outlier as well. You want at least 76 burn, and 80 cloud radius and ammo. Damage doesnt matter as much, all your damage comes out of the burn

[fleet zealot]

god i wish I could just

not be anti social

roommates made lunch, fettucini ok, adding leftover breakfast bacon good

oh and add brocoli

like no

just have the brocolli as a side dish

[fading vale]

add the mayonnaise chicken

[mental coral]

they broke the candles again

[fading vale]

that's just a thing that happens in psyk sometimes

[mental coral]

ah is it a psyk thing

so I won't notice it in game

[ornate bone]

https://open.spotify.com/track/709ffFK4o4MtG1NKoLvOma?si=0890466550314a27

[ripe quest]

Broccoli in pasta is goated.

If it's like, shaved to clarify.

or zested? made into small bits

whole ass broccoli would be weird for texture

[sharp zodiac]

Brocoli got that zesty energy

[fading vale]

I mean there's no need to throw broccoli into fettucini Alfredo, just have some nice roasted broccoli on the side

but I guess it's not bad or anything

[ripe quest]

Maybe in like, a good Alfredo but I'm willing to bet that shit is store bought sauce and some pizzazz makes it better

[fading vale]

just don't tell the Italians

putting that garlic in and using bacon for carbonara

[ripe quest]

Found an image, this kinda shit

Adds such a niche flavour to the pasta

[fading vale]

I mean it's fine for like, American Italian stuff

I'd eat it

[mental coral]

I mean as long as thats herbs and not mold

Looks aight to me

[fading vale]

that looks nothing like mold

broccoli in the sauce and some herbs on top

[mental coral]

oh wait thats brocolli lol

I wasn't looking too closely

yeah I'd prob eat that then

btw @fading vale how good is the hsword as a crit weapon

[fading vale]

I mean hsword is hsword so it'll work

plus piety is dumb free 25% crit and with that you get scourge so

60% crit for free

just spam some lights and instant scourge if need be

[mental coral]

maybe I'll make an hsword crit build then

hmm

[light holly]

With those crit talents + crits reduce cooldown, chastise, with bleed and crit is

Fuuunnny

Especially on hsword

If there's enough poxwalkers you can reset your cooldown like 3-4 times a wave

[sharp zodiac]

There will always be enough poxwalkers

[trail grove]

Which one?

[sharp zodiac]

On one hand

The penetration is low but everything else is good, on the other the first target is at least higher than 65% so it is useable, so I'd say right

Shame tho because the stats easily could've brought it up but luck wasn't there

[olive raven]

also pen doesn’t change that much

[trail grove]

I'm gonna go with...the left one.

[spare dome]

https://clips.twitch.tv/HelpfulHilariousPeanutBibleThump-KpNHan9ZFNtJFdWZ

[sharp zodiac]

Got one just for you

[solar pine]

ah, fell for the ol trapper through a crowd trick. 60% of the time it works every time.

[sharp zodiac]

I'd give it a 75% given the circumstances that could be at play

[spare dome]

if i threw a knife i wouldve been fine

[trail grove]

Also, this

[spare dome]

but i went for a dodge when i had none left

thats how it do sometimes

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/nigel-marven-prehistoric-park-net-gun-shoot-gun-gif-26543120

[trail grove]

I swapped Crit Chance for Unyielding

[ember yew]

classic

[trail grove]

Now what else?

Carapace or Flak?

[north sedge]

hammerblow to thrust

[trail grove]

I was about to say "but I don't have it", but then I realized I have it.

[sharp zodiac]

What number

[trail grove]

4

😄

[bitter anvil]

which one?

[buoyant pecan]

Both are sub 370.
Delete

[royal vortex]

ideally neither but those are about equal

[buoyant pecan]

[royal vortex]

i would upgrade the left first

[bitter anvil]

for this im picky to earn blessing by which should pick?

is an old weapon i had

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-tts-warhammer-wh40k-40k-gif-17132610

[bitter anvil]

im asking which blessing i should take for libary?

[heavy arch]

skullcrusher whatever

[olive raven]

Trauma

That’s personal preference

All crusher blessings outside Skullcrusher are a “whatever” pick

[uncut scaffold]

did a game on heresy with no damage taken

im done now

no reason to play anymore

[fading vale]

if you aren't taking any damage are you truly living

[uncut scaffold]

it got to a point where I realized I hadn't taken any damage for so long, that I wanted to see how far I could push it

Really the only thing that scares me is ragers mixed in with the chaff

[solar pine]

what thammer is the best, and what blessings do I want on it

[heavy arch]

there should be a rager variant with 1 axe and a shield

[uncut scaffold]

I mean, both hammers have their strengths

its like hs6 and 9

what do you want to do

[fading vale]

crucis is the more hammery hammer with more special damage but harder to use cause no cleave, ironhelm is the more special spammy hammer with less damage and a weird overhead but easier to use cause the special cleaves

[solar pine]

bathe in the blood of heretics in the name of the god emperor ofc

[fading vale]

thrust is required, then either slaughterer or headtaker

[uncut scaffold]

I like crucis more because special bonk on a mutant is peak comedy

[fading vale]

I mean ironhelm does the same thing to muties

[solar pine]

ive got guns/flamer to cleanse the trash heretics, which one is best for single target damage

[fading vale]

crucis

[uncut scaffold]

also i've just been using crucis sing launch and the attack pattern on ironhelm is weird

[solar pine]

fetus deletus the crushers and such

[heavy arch]

can marty crucis 1 shot crusher

[fading vale]

with other buffs up

[olive raven]

It’s heresy.

[heavy arch]

damn

[olive raven]

Do auric maelstrom with that and then it’s game over 👍

[uncut scaffold]

hur dur heresy is easy mode hur dur

[heavy arch]

fucked up how ogryn can just 1shot with thrust

[fading vale]

you need like, 90% more damage compared to base hammer with max thrust 4

[uncut scaffold]

If oggy is taking anything other than shield,

They're wrong

[opal crescent]

ch

[uncut scaffold]

shield oggy best oggy

crucis special heavy will stagger the piss outta a crusher tho

So even if you don't one shot, it's not a threat for a good few seconds

Not being able to stagger bulwarks is my one gripe with hs

[umbral kindle]

Ogryn is also like 5 times bigger than a zealot with arms the size of tree trunks

[uncut scaffold]

a shield the size of a miata

[solar pine]

whats the dump stat for crucis? Defense I assume? def want that pen/first strike at 80 for the ohk?

[heavy arch]

im not worried about 1 crusher it's the 6+ crusher pack in auric

[olive raven]

One crusher is never a threat.

[heavy arch]

ogryn can just 1shot 3 of them with thrust

[olive raven]

Six crushers is sometimes a threat.

[uncut scaffold]

One bulwark is never a threat. A bulwark with a rager attacking through its shield, tho

[heavy arch]

is not fair all im saying

[olive raven]

Six crushers and every elite and specialist nurgle has is a threat.

[coarse birch]

Psure oggy can do 4

Actually

[umbral kindle]

4 bulwarks in a corner will absolutely fuck you up

[coarse birch]

Fair and balanced:)

[light holly]

Just dont get stuck in a corner

[olive raven]

See it’s fun when im pinned in a corner by bulwarks because

[heavy arch]

is it 4 idk i barely touch my ogryn

[olive raven]

It’s just a matter of

[coarse birch]

4 is unlikely

[olive raven]

Who breaks guard first

Ogryns can 1 tap 4 crushers yea

Happens more in scab only

[umbral kindle]

Bulwark patrols exist

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/watchmen-gif-8794746

[ripe quest]

yeah pretty much

[heavy arch]

i usually run kant shotty so bulwark patrols are nbd

[uncut scaffold]

stfu thx

[light holly]

I mean its hard because the teammates are worse

🥹

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-enemies-vinland-saga-gif-5351260217907661521

[light holly]

Dab up your homies

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-gif-meme-toy-story-whats-good-buzz-lightyear-gif-26344526

[heavy arch]

thats dapping ur homies

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[ripe quest]

Yeah it's Defences.

[ripe quest]

Oh I'm out of the loop, what enables something like that?

[north sedge]

the new shovel

[royal vortex]

bm + a weapon with an overhead that one shots crushers

[ripe quest]

Oh yeah that makes sense

Forgot they got BM thammers

[coarse birch]

yeah BM

[ripe quest]

Also I see people refer to overheads being used with BM or Deathblow to kill a bunch of elites, that's also something I don't quite understand. Is it just a long lasting hitbox you can wiggle around or are people hoping enemies are funnelled into a doorway?

[royal vortex]

depends on the situation

lots of hyperdensity on certain maps, less so on others

[oblique nexus]

Man, seeing dudes with the new Heavy Evi' rev'-striking Crushers after using their rush ability...
It hurts. Knowing what I do now, it's just painful to see the loss of potential.

[royal vortex]

the balcony section at the end of warren is legit BM overhead heaven

[coarse birch]

even like MK6 hsword overhead has enough cleave to kill a few ragers

but i think you can wiggle the mouse around as welll

wanna say vet mk6 psword push attack can take advantage of it

[ripe quest]

All the Hswords have the same damage profile on that overhead

[royal vortex]

i mean with push attack you'll just end up killing shit randomly

i've gotten a bulwark and a crusher for free on accident

[coarse birch]

yeah i was just saying that one cause i knew its H1 was an overhead

whereas 7 has the golf swing

[ripe quest]

The IX also has an H1 overhead.

iirc the VII is better for Dreg Ragers

[royal vortex]

my fkin streamable history

is just filled

with these now

[olive raven]

A man of science fr fr

[median steeple]

Bill Nye over here

[ripe quest]

I buildup like hundreds of 5 minute clips for benchmarks I had to move my clip folder off my OS drive

[north sedge]

josiah

[royal vortex]

doiuhg

[north sedge]

put the stan explaining german pornos over the guide

[ember yew]

gimme the link to L1-H2 and PA-H2, need to refresh my memory

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/urwdlv

[ember yew]