#zealot-class
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Moshing does not imply a fetish
cause it is
Moaning

Cheesecake bed angels would not be hygienic
that's why he has a dam around his bed
And you'd sink in and drown
it's fairly important but that's usable
Very
ALARM
ALARM
That revolver will be more than enough given how potent revolver is in general.
Oh so hear me out. Broken bottles! The weapon special lets you throw it for low damage high stagger. if you hit weakspot with the throw you apply +1 bleed stacks
but regardless, loss of 19% crit bonus isn't a huge deal
New dagger type

Compared to a Zarona maybe but it's still a very strong weapon.
Good with the single target and whatnot
Though I do think that them giving it 1.5 cleave is a teeny bit goofy
yeah I just don't like how it kills like 2 elites max per 5 shots
and doesn't cleave teammates
I’ve seen it miss perfectly aimed shots at 10m
Not suppose to cleave teammates.
you carry em
Kinda ruins the gun for me
magdump into a new reload
Or just use zarona and don’t miss 
The damage is only like, ~150 off from a Zarona. It should still meet similar BPs.
befriend the xenos
iirc it has the same as Boltgun base damage
well, you kinda need piety with it
cause surgical is a thing
in terms of relative comparison
usually one shot mutants with 3 and up stacks of surigcal.
unless
maelstrom
revolver does not one shot mutants
Yee it's one of the few guns that benefit from BP
hs6 with just sustained assault/momentum/deathblow/headtaker
I love watching someone using the specific method for killing a crusher across all three heavy sword versus how you actually test this which is how Dawn did it
average rager interaction
It's so sad
Pokemon
I'm not an Hsword user, I understand very little about it other than surface level statistics. I'm genuinely trying to figure out why the Mk VI is considered the best one here.
Is H1 -> SA not the single target rotation on the IX?
Afaik the H2 and H3 are used just to chain Deathblow on higher HP enemies
And to add, the Mk VII is literally just a moveset flip of the VI. It gets a sweep on the H1 instead of an overhead, in my mind that's marginally cooler because it has the same damage profile as the overhead and it takes advantage of Deathblow
And you're also implying that what combo I did was specifically for Crushers. How? The special does more damage than the H2 and H3 against anything except for maniac
@lean lark you're being mentioned here, what's your input? Sounds like you tested it.
what
Perhaps just situationally dependant such as personal or team buffs.
HS mk9 was always the best... idk wachall talkin' bout...
Hsword comparisons. It's being said that the Mk VI is the best one because it loops to the overhead faster. Leux said you tested it in a different way than I did.
i didnt say it loops the overhead faster
h6 is the best hsword due to its attacks being only strikedowns and also having the highest strikedown dmg out of every hsword
it has slower horde clear than other hswords but it has the highest elite ttk out of all of them
The damage seems the same to the other Hsword heavies.
no
it isnt
you can tell by inspecting the weapons dmg stats
the attack breakdowns
h6 has the highest dmg out of the other two
we should threaten veterans to use ammo aura or else 🗡️ lacerate fleshtearer
I've gotta be missing something
BP calc and the code lists the same damage
The only difference is the IX has lower damage on the H2 and H3
poison berries
The H1 and H2 on the VII and VI, and the H1 on the IX share the same damage profile
does the menu work in missions..?
Only in solos
Blueberries
What you mean in solos?
I use it to benchmark stuff in solo missions
true solo mod
I wish you could progress in penances in solo missions
And it counts towards the penances?
No
No
It's completely isolated from progression
im not sure why they wont allow solos though
Fuck do i run these carry missions for then?
For this test it looks like you're doing H1 -> Special Attack on the IX. The SA is worse than H2 and H3 against maniacs.
And that's saying something since the H2 and H3 are the lowest damage heavies of the Hswords
They probably don't want people cheesing the penances or something
yeah because its strikedowns, if the h6 had the same attacks as the h9 i'd have done so
yee but your test isn't using an optimal combo and you're comparing TTK between weapons
is dclaw better with piety or inexorable judgement?
that isn't super representative of the IX Hsword's actual performance
even then, the h9 heavy loop wouldnt beat the h6 elite ttk given its got the weaker damage
Yeah, for specifically maniacs
i used ragers as the main elite ttk benchmark given they're the most popolous enemy in the game that you can find
and the most prevalent enemy type for elties
The normal malice runner?
The VI and VII will be better for maniacs since they have a better moveset for it. The IX's single target combo uses the SA, which has a really bad maniac ADM
if you want to prove the fact the h9 is better than the h6 then you can make your own ttk comparison
If there's something like a Support Zealot build, what are the optimal weapons of choices?
Ikr! Its an absolute blast to play, especially once you get the trajectory down. Btw, those knives one shot ragers on auric damnation if you hit them in the head.
i made it using weapons that are possible to get and dont take years of grinding to get
Flamer
I can't prove that the IX is definitivly better than the VI or the VII, that's not what I'm arguing
for me the difference between hs6 and hs9 is simple -
hs6 - better light attacks for horde clear, better heavy as antielites
hs9 - mediocre light attack (i just don't use them), use strikedown heavy against elites (oneshot ragers and mutants with headshot) and wide heavy strikes against hordes, combo special + heavy if needed against X
I'm specifically saying they each have slight differences that aren't being represented here
And for melee...?
Persume axe.
I'm at 850 hours with 490k kills 
Any axe?
I want that frame
950 at almost 2-5k left for 500000
Does anybody else love getting into a match where everyone is basically dead/down and saving the day?
It's like you're the reinforcements
because the aim of the video isnt to pinpoint its specific details to the bytes themselves but just as a generlization of its effectiveness
im not going to make 50 hour long video describing every nook and cranny of a weapon unless im sure it wont be changed or have any modifications done to it
and given the state of darktide
its a waste of time
and would be useful for a month or two
I'm that guy who's usually left behind (looting) and then suddenly going invisible to revive.
ran the achlys mk vIII and got called the headsman for clutching
yeah, people leave, you thrown there as a replacement and finish the run, it's great when its the end of the run
mine is the ones where i join as the match ends and dont even leave the ship and still get loot
free stuff in like 5 mins
making a barebones generelization would instead give you a clearer idea in a short amount of time of its effectiveness
And so my cursed blade reaches its apex, and a new blessing is revealed. Seems even Death can upgrade.
much fresh corpse starch
For the grinder
But I love this shitty thingamajig.
Dawn it's literally just adding an armor type to the comparison video and using the actual proper combo for what's being tested. You cannot argue that would be classified as pinpointing specific details about a weapon.
Or spend 4-5mill on a 369 or maybe, i'd guess 380 with lesser blessings..?
Like surgical on a mag dump weapon
from what i tested the sa h1 loop did more dmg and took less time to kill, now do your test on that and show the differences with the proper combo
also keep in mind that video is pre-rager nerf
I'm just gonna do a fresh one with both Ragers yee
GG mods
With Agripinaa Infantry Autogun, is it fine to have Sustained Fire and Punishing Salvo?
you want dum dum on infantry auto gun
and flak damage perk
idk what the second blessing should be, i dont use iag (infantry autogun)
but i know you want dum dum
if i had to guess, the second blessing is probably fire frenzy
fking trappers are still a fucking hassle.
What lmfao
does anyone knows if anoint in blood affects kantrael shotgun slug dot damage?
that is not how you hold a flamethrower
Damn they added handflamers?
I'm back, the sitters told you guys to take me back and then left. x.x
For a crusher, that’s the loop for any. When handling groups of elites, such as ragers, you do heavies. This is where the IX falls off.
The combo you did is mainly used for armor. It’s meant to stagger while dealing whatever damage the sword can muster.
yeah it does
anoint is just an always take for me
oh thats great then. anything to melt bulwarks faster
anoint is p much the best of the 3 one-point damage nodes
H1 -> SA is seeming to be better than H2 H3 for groups of elites except for Maniacs.
It is only better for Flak or Carapace iirc
Unyielding Cara and Flak yee
This is due to the lower damage to armor and thus wanting to cycle quick
That is a significant chunk of elites. H2 H3 will be better for Unarmored and Maniacs.
yee they got a very nice moveset for groups
It’s only Ogryns, Scab Mauler (maybe Scab Rager) and Crusher
Do you actually use the H1 -> special loop
I typically don’t even use that loop for non-armored ogryns
And with your video
Dawn came to the logical conclusion of things have better TTK or not
By using a larger group, not just a singular hit
Also I find it extremely funny that the VII is like, a second worse at most tasks to the VI but then with Scab Ragers just obliterates the VI
I mean you can one shot anything flak except for ragers, and you one shot ragers with chastise
And you also want the overhead on demand, not the sweep
The video that I put was showing that the IX has a 2 hit combo with the overhead. That wasn't to benchmark anything
Every heavy sword does the same combo on maulers/crushers. spam special.
identical attack times.
Hence why the 6 & 9 are better as you can get an overhead when you need it, compared to the 7
I don't see how that's much desirable on a Deathblow weapon.
Esp since the sweep on the VI and VII have the same exact damage profile to the overhead
It allows proper H1->Special cycling
Opening with a move that will likely hit weak point no matter what is generally better
Like overheads are good as a H1
Dawn has a video somewhere here
That shows the actual TTK difference for the IX and 6
Using a group of dreg ragers
It’s entirely flawed logic to base anything off one singular hit using god rolled weapons
It's like you get a little BM Caxe built into your special attack lol
I've never benchmarked something off of a singular weapon hit
Literally all of my tests use the standard 50 count benchmark
I commonly will show off flashy stuff or moveset demonstrations with a single elite since it's not fun to do those against a 50 count benchmark
Again, incase you didn't read, that video I put earlier with the H1 - SA was specifically to show you that the IX has a 2 hit combo with the H1.
It also didn't even use a godrolled weapon iirc, was just a white item

I was referencing the scab rager video.
Bro read the context of that video. Dawn said "[Mk VI] also having the highest strikedown dmg out of every hsword"
That video was showing that all of the strikedowns share the same damage profile
Guys i did just a flesh of wound more than 6 times under 16 mins with one health bar from start till end but didn’t get anything what should i do?
You need to do it in a private match
sad as hell but yeah it needs to be in a priv match
are you sure the lobby was set to private and you weren't just in a 4 man premade
happy birthday nacho

shut UP
I’m sure mate i played with my other friends
Premade does not equal private
You need to set it before starting it
Mate i know what is private stop saying that please
PrIvAtE
I set the match from public to private

what dif did you do it on
game just hates you then
Privée
I sent a ticket to supports but nothing happened yet
Full of bug this game
what difficulty did u do it on
Did you go down or die during the run?
happy birthday
Heresy
you sure it was private? :^)
hey bro did you do it on private? are you sure you're sure you're sure?
If you die during the round, it won't count the private match
doesnt it have to be less than a wound
yeah less than a wound
yea
In a private match 
they said one wound left, dunno if they managed to keep hp maxed or something
last time I did it was with leux dont remember how much they had
if they did it 6 times they probably had at least one run without a disqualifier tho
but was it in a private match
a mystery
i've never bothered to do it, i once agreed to help a pubby with it back in the day and the vet immediately stepped onto a dh and the others paniced and ran forward while i solo'd the dh, as you can imagine it ended up being a wipe cause of the panic run
help
how does one use the frog against you
ur not capable of hostile rpg responses so unfortunately you're doomed
it stares
lmao
i was complaining about having to put in effort for the project i have embarked on
but i must stop the fkin "i spam specials with crusher and its super safe and cozywozy" stuff from appearing in my feed
what do I search to find this frog
lol
I had less than 75% of a wound the whole time
Thank you this is a great find
I went down once
But then went back to 75% of a wound as soon as I could
In a private match 

god I love that crab
stan fkin HATES it lmao









It's the first of January and FS is in annual leave mode
Still a few more hours till Jan for the swedish

So it's still Sunday for them :3

I already live in the future.
fucked up
Nothing has changed. No flying cars. No global health insurance for you fellow muricans
So do u have flying cars mr free health care? 
Wait shit he said fellow muricans I just committed friendly fire
I should be executed
treason
It's called a helicopter
With how stupid people are. I wouldn't want anyone to have a flying car
Can you imagine all the morons you see driving? Flying?
We’d kill more than just birds lemme tell ya
Yeah, the flying cars came first tho. Free healthcare is still hard. /s
Share 
Same. Do not want
it might solve the problem of having too many people on the road at least
one way to reduce the number of vehicles
Natural selection 
Brother what
Reduce the number of living people too
Every Tuesday, a terrorist attack? Nope. Just another jackass who thought they could eyeball it without the instrument panel

when you completely stall your car 300 feet up
Also who tf is gonna get rid of all the asphalt
Kevin
kevin left the server u dumbass
The other one
how is the wine
What
what did kevin do to prompt execution
homophobic statements in the vt2 discord
Lmao
Hello, Moderation team? I'd like to report one count of friendly fire.
Yes I'll hold.
somebody, hopefully

asphalt and suck my ass
How can people be so stupid to say homophobic or racist stuff in a "public" place?
Teenagers?
Question hypothetically could you get the just a flesh wound Penance with the twins boss skip on heresy?
probably
People who are stupid enough to be homophobic usually don't have critical thinking skills
usually its cos they normalise it for themselves in private places
True
and then when they go mask off in a public place its a shock when consequences happen
Well well well if it isn't the consequences of my actions
and then the ban appeal message is something something woke
it's pretty funny when it happens, seeing shit people get dunked I can never get enough of
I am glad there's consequences
Chat Gpt
I still don't get how woke is a slur, is it not a good thing to be awake and aware?
That's my take
I woke up, does that mean I just said a slur explaining how I just came from dreamland? 
idk if it's a slur
it's just the thing I ctrl f when I see a rant to see how deranged the writer was
I feel the right term is “slang”
Good point
because someone who types 'woke' unironically is usually down some psycho rabbit hole
it's been the weakest insult for years and for some reason it's everything they disagree with now
Both sides of the argument are crazy af imo
A lot of people see woke and think social justice crusaders. Except It's not.
I haven't seen 'SJW' in a while
it's the conservative equivalent of calling everyone you disagree with a nazi but way more ubiquitous
I used to see it a lot from online guys who were very upset about Black Panther existing
and also Brie Larson or Brie Parson whatever her surname is
Pronouns in thu video game has hurteth my feelings you snowflakes
I remember when heelvsbabyface was a wow only guy
Oh god. I forgot it was a thing.
and his entire personality was being a ranty whingy guy about the new wow expansions
the homunculus hath spoken
Praise be
Uh oh the overlord arrived
Ryan gosling is a great actor for tashalla
ok its brie larson
did someone trigger the mod alarm
the hate for this woman is genuinely like
it was me wasn't it
that was set off earlier by a porn bot
its out of this world
oh
thats fuckin nuts
Ah I love waking up to rain on New Year's Day
I wish I had some rn I ran out of almonds yesterday
and then I got home after the shops closed
I hate nuts
that reminds me
She was pretty hot in Scott Pilgrim
you exploded earlier how can u still have opinions
i dont remember if that was a thought i had or something i actually said
Big bro.
Respawn
cheating
What's the pb with Brie Larson?
the crusher guide is coming along nicely i have made real progress instead of saying i need to start working on it for 2 hours while getting increasingly agitated at myself
de-acronym pb for me
Is the hate an American online pop culture thing?
What
its your generic video essay on how the MCU is collapsing because Captain Marvel
Apparently people hate Brie Larson
like that joke about some poor lady posting a vid in which she didn't like the joker movie
and then the response from some lunatic was 11 hours long
The people who hate Brie Larson are nut jobs usually
Jeez it's not like captain marvel wrote the script
Man there's more than the combos?
And not actually criticizing their skills as an actress or whatever
hating actors for bad writing is so weird
is that just spillover from people having decided that checks notes captain marvel was the most cringe thing to happen to the MCU
They are sexist weirdos, basically
like they have the object permanence of a fucking baby the only thing that exists is what they can see
in my experience unfortunately the answer is yeah
What absolute fucking tap session
its actually hard to just google 'brie larson hate'
because it just returns the opinions of people who hate brie larson
because i have had ppl interrogate me for "how do you handle X elite type"
and not an overview
Like I don't like Captain Marvel movie, it was shit. Brie ain't got nothing to down with why it was shit tho.
Now the script. Whoever wrote that shit. Yea. That guy or girl sucks
that and ive done some breakpoint math stuff for certain enemies that u can kinda deterministically use breakpoint math for like bulwarks
fuck doing it for ragers/crushers/maulers though
u put em on the ground and u hit em till they stop moving
I pity the poor lady who is gonna depict the woman in the last of us 2
My favorite is when youtube is like "hey you enjoy videogames, how about these weird anti brie larson videos"
the chuds are gonna explode
how do I kill poxwalkers im still stuck in the tutorial mission
it's easier to do it with a push attack than a h1
oh the actor who is gonna play abby is in for it and I feel bad
oh
because the push applies skullcrusher
Yea I love getting “woke student owned liberal” videos cause I watched a five nights at Freddy video
is this why your discord status was
Test every possible combo to see which is the most optimal against each armor type
'psykhanium 1:45:32'
Very strange
People dont like a misandrist
i've done more of this than i would like to admit 
Very strange indeed
but really crusher doesn't have too many crazy armor type differences
It's super fun until results get unorganized and all of a sudden it's not fun
I’d assume a blunt weapon doesn’t have too many ADMs
It's got the same number of ADMs as every other weapon.
this is such a fucking BITCH to test and also changes depending on slight fluctuation in weapon stats
Ok but nacho josiah, why flamer so weak?!
Josho, you are sometimes very intelligent but also what the fuck
I USE THE KEYSTONE
why the fuck would you do that to yourself
nacho josiah why bleed no kill crusher in 1 tick
No I agree it’s fun it’s just horror
i just used momentum stacks as the final buff if desperation/sustained assault etc wouldnt cut it
It’s only fun if you are acoustic
and if it takes more than 20 i just say u need duellist for it
I'm making a BP calc that has this exact thing in mind because of how annoying it is to test
im not allowed to say any words
would make life so much more easy
We genuinely need
That's the plan
Just
without violating treaties
A long written formula
i give u permission mittins
For how to calculate damage
why would it be a trap
darth sidious ass mf
Hyper focus is a bitch 
i did pretty much all of the main testing keystoneless unless i needed extra damage
Also leux I have the data but it consists of like 12 videos and I don't know editing
Hai ciaphas
@quaint verge this kransekage is hitting diff
if someone bitches about not using marty they can just turn 8 momentum stacks into 1 marty and do the math themselves
Joker itself was mid, Joaquin Phoenix was stellar
my cat has taken over my keyboard
yea that
Writers fucked Joaquin with a shit plot
though Phoenix seems cursed to be a great actor in fuckin dumb movies rn
Lmfao
people claiming joker was the most influential movie of their lives are walking red flags
god the Napoleon movie makes me sad
I forgot to apply for an SU loan, so I'm just sticking to Tuborg classics 
Nicholas cage
What BPs do I hit with 4 stacks of Martyr rather than 5?
Rip my boy
cage does it intentionally
Cage at least like, makes shit movies kinda his playground tho y'know

this is idd a gun
god knows
Cage got there by bad financial decisions
like everyone loves watching cage just fuckin be himself it doesn't matter what the movie is
if this is a 'what change' id just do the other perk
the best thing DBD did was add him
Stam to flak
That's already done.
stam to maniac
I run marty with 5 or 6 wounds, AMA
Cage is unironically a goated actor too
optimal is boring
I don't like weakspot damage, honestly.
Bros got a dragons horde of crushers
Plus 6 more presentations preps to do, for my exam in 4 days 
Like the fuckin what horror did he do
Sorry. Yeah maniacs. Or elites.
He's done a couple horror flicks
Mandy
Cage is a really good actor, he will just take any role that even vaguely interests him
nobody should, the calculation is shit
The perk is bad yea
choose your poison really
It's the blessing.
Eh that too
Cage is actually at his best when directors just let him do whatever the fuck he wants
you've already got dum dum on there which is rly nice
I've Raking Fire and Sustained Fire
so you've either got a naff perk or a naff blessing
oh punishing salvo is bad
flip a coin
Honestly, I prefer Raking Fire on it.

joker was great but I aint rewatching it
I’m curious about Cage’s new dream movie
With Stamina, at least I can run for a bit longer with it.
That seems interesting
same with the new batman movie
@fading vale something i've figured out is that despite hammerblow stacking on-hit and trauma stacking on-repeated-hit, both will stack to full instantly if you push or chastise into a horde
which is... fucking weird, because trauma doesn't stack on cleave from normal attacks
Idk bout the Bamman moopie
you are really getting into this crusher guide
have you seen it?
THEY MUST KNOW
It unravels itself at the end like a lot of movies recently do
Joker was just kinda eh, the acting from everyone was great tho, but it really was just taxi driver for zoomers
It was pretty sad joker was revealed to be schizophrenic
it also stacks from the explosion on an activated light/heavy
the way they portray schizophrenia was kinda...not good either tbh
The entire joker character is a fucking psychopathic nut case
I don't know what it's called I just know the sound it makes when it takes a mans life
This
funnily enough
if you do a special light
it will stack on the targets hit by the (smaller) aoe suppression/blast
like my nan was schizo and yeah sure she had a lot of problems but she wasn't that
Schizophrenic joker, cool makes sense. But it was done so shit
but if you cleave through them and hit someone without the blast radius touching that guy
it doesn't count
i think
actually i may be wrong
meanwhile one of my old friends lives with it and is medicated and does mostly fine
got me a nice revolver today
but expecting healthy/reasonable portrayal of mental health issues in a hollywood movie is just a bridge too far
Can’t wait for a healthy portrayal of autism
literally never happening
movies and the demonization of mental health issues and its consequences
I think it's not just the mental malady that makes him the way he is, in how it's shown in the movie
I think there was like
One movie
I saw something decent
For respresentaiton
But it was the whole
It's the other comorbid psychology pathology all bundled together that makes him the way he is
Like the sociopathy
Scott pilgrim is the perfect autism movie
And the vulnerable narcissism
my brain is still warming up so I cant remember anything from from my psych courses
time to play darktide
Every ryan gosling movie is about autism
🤔
It ain't wrong
Yamato this is an intervention
Irs isnt gonna touch my money
You are not Ryan Gosling
I am literally him
Yamato, do we need to remind you of your Christmas gift
the IRS aren't gonna get my money ( I'm not american )
Do we really need to remind you
Yamato is Ryan gosling, but specifically from the snl sketch about the Avatar font
I will get you banned
Hi vin
Hi gale
Years after Avatar's release, there's one thing Steven (Ryan Gosling) just can't get over.
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Mods, ban these fools.
How were your holidays and such
Lars and the Real Girl, he totally is ryan gosling
It's always you
Not my fav larper screenshot though
It was a holiday, i got a toothbrush and thats it
Wuh
That is NOT what thst is
Gotta keep those teeth clean, you've got another 60 years with em
I don’t get this, am I too young
Ill leave it a mess..
just got off a shift at the
Uh oh
what blessings for crit evis 2?
Gonna get banned finally
do you need savage sweep or no
For Ringleading
Nah like my brother got new tires and other shit and all i got was a toothbrush
N00oo00o0o00o0o00h
Ryan gosling plays a man who is in a relationship with a sex doll
Oh hi cica
Hi stranger
Didn’t realize it was you
Oh yea that’s totally Yamato
cica makes a noise that a ghost would make when banished
Nah…
Well you know who the favorite is 💀
Are you talking about the mk 15?
mk 2
Just got off of work
At the
Ghosts moan when banished
wondering what to change
Least you got something useful tho, I got a wooden figurine like it’s the 1940’s
You want savage sweep then. Shred/Sweep is good, as is shred/rampage if you're doing crit
Surprisingly im the favorite my family just doesn’t know anything about me and my mom though i wanted a new toothbrush at some point
Momentum to rampage
Smh vocalize more then
I mean you can still run it with rampage/sweep and then just take crit talents
you don't necessarily need shred
Rampage is the usual tbh
Honestly I haven't played much recently, might go play for a bit
God my mother trying to learn how to talk in Danish is fucking wild
I fucking love danish its so goofy
Dutch is pretty fucked up
the one sentence that is stuck in my head forever is Hitler dood, what nou?
crit chance to flak and momentum to rampage
That's a good evis
Ye, danish sucks
Rain man was ok no?
Isn't this friendly fire for you 
ah cool my game crashed 
Forced education 
the danish agenda
I got like B+ in verbal exam, and D on written exam i did right beffore i started my semesters
shite language IMO
Deathspitter and FF aren't great on shotguns, right? Gotta trash both of these blessings .-.
Ah, was told I definitely want Full Bore and No Respite
But is Full Bore even good on a Kantrael IX?
if you like shooting big targets, yes
no respite for sure, full bore is fine
FB is fine but not as consistent
Clutching on Zealot feels soooo good
Just switch one of those to no respite, and specialists to maniac or unyielding or something and you'll have a perfect kant
Deathspitter
I'm not aware of the difference between Close Damage and Power, besides Power applying to.. non close damage
Well you just named the difference
welp
Does power on ranged weapons affect ranged cleave?
you dont need the cleave on kant, since the special has infinite cleave
I didn't want to ask this in the psyker chat 'cause I didn't want to make folks mad. But does the psyker tree seem a little, 'less fun' than the other trees? Like, most trees have loads of talents that make me go "I want that" but Psyker only has a couple. Anyone else feel this or am I just being biased against psykers?
Excluding the major nodes, of course. I mean just regular talents
The blue ones
You fear making people mad?
Ur on a social media my friend, ur bound to make someone mad accidentally
I don't want to rain on someone's parade with my negativity.
I mean I like the psyker stuff about as much as any other class besides zealot
Which is why I posted it here, we're all negative here
but otherwise
gunker is pretty fun
You have ur opinion they have theirs, if they happen to shout theirs louder than yours oh well
The only thing i dont like about Psyker is brainburst ability which is kinda meh (i know that it was nerfed pretty hard)
No skin off ur behind
They get a lot of effective nodes, but like with any class there's some uninteresting or basic stuff
I still don't like what they did with warp charges though, probably never going to use it until I can use my ability without dunking my charges
psyker tree has problems, like legit it does
psyker is fun to play but that doesn't mean the tree is free of issues so yeah, I get ya
i use warp charges for passive dmg boost 
like every skill tree does have problems rn even if the classes are still fun to play
As a le epib bsyker mane
get out
I think it's annoying and diagonal
I can't have fun stuff because the fun stuff wants me to do zigzagging
Fatshark was doing the Seth Rogen laugh while forbidding me from getting crit aura and shriek
Or cooldown on kill and crit aura
Or crit aura and peril toughness
I feel that one's only good for shield builds or folks who never use their ability.
But in my case, I just wish they had more fun blue talents. That is, everything except abilities, blitz, keystones, tax nodes and auras. They have a few that are fun if you like to be at 100% peril, but even then they're not "fun fun" they're "optimal fun". I might just be rambling here
Or making warp siphon not cost 200 points and being pestered by annoying travel nodes
Wow I can't wait to get more aura radius and quell speed on my dueling sword
And then warp siphon doesn't work properly with scrier's gaze anyway
And using shield sucks because it needs you to ask permission from the Mourningstar so your fucking input registers
Since we are talking about the tree, how good is enduring faith if I go for crit? Is it a must have and possibly worth getting over grenades and then just not using the knives? 
Yea I get what you mean. I'm not a psyker expert or anything, but I could understand feeling like there isn't much fun choice in the tree
If you're in the face of enemies with a crit build you effectively have double toughness. Varies a bit if you have other TDR sources due to diminishing returns though.
Oh, wait, I know why. It's because we've only got 21 blue nodes while vet has like, 40+
I'd recommend it esp since you can grab Second Wind
Zealot has 35+ and psykers doesn't get any red talent nodes either
Sounds good, thanks, I wish that note wasn't on the right side
This can be skewed heavily by what you determine to be a point cost. Can easily say Zealot has ~50 talent nodes.
See, that's something I don't feel with Psyker. I get all the main nodes I want/can get, then I have extras left over and have nothing worth spending them on.
zealot is one of the fun ones, most talents enhance gameplay in some way, like dodge oriented, or reduce recoil or cooldown reduction or stealth/cc
psyker is just like your ranged turret with some management mechanics
Prob helps that Psyker's tree has the exclusive talents setup depending on what blitz and aura you pick.
not sure how they can get psyker more exciting to play
probably you need to enjoy quickswap/management
Adding another 20 nodes might help. I would love more choices that boost 100% peril lifestyle. Like, maybe a red-blue node that lets you explode for free every X seconds (some big number I reckon?) Or get 20% more movement speed at max peril.
im VT2 sienna can go crazy melee build
based on resource management
but psyker dont have one right?
could've copied that
not like its not cannon (melee psykers)
On the otherhand, more nodes that boost your first warp attack when you have no peril might be neat too.
you can go scriers gaze iwth an illithi force sword and excorcist on it
works well for melee
psyker
arent grey cardinals technically psykers?
gib 2h force sword with an offensive push-attack
@lean lark I have all the videos but no editing software, if you want a look at a specific benchmark I can put it.
Used the same build for all benchmarks. Used Flak/Maniac Headtaker/Deathblow for all three Hswords. Results can vary a good amount when hitting different BPs. Overheads have more potency in a 50 benchmark than in actual gameplay, from various solo tests with the same build the overheads would get 1-3 kills. VII's sweep has a better hitbox than the VI's sweep.
IX dominates with light spam, and of course has about the same H1 SA performance as the other Hswords (VII's will be a bit better for groups). In each benchmark H1 SA on the IX outpaced H2 H3. VI and VII have better Flak/Maniac/Unyielding performance. Technically they also offer better Unarmored/Infested single target but I cannot find a case where the difference means anything (Except maybe the twins?) + IX has better light spam when considering fodder. All Hswords have the same Carapace performance.
Benchmark Results:
Dreg Ragers - VII using H1 H2 @ 10.4
Scab Ragers - VI using H1 H2 @ 28.3
Comparisons:
Dreg Ragers - VI using H1 H2 @ 12.3 | IX using H1 SA @ 18.7 |
Scab Ragers - VI using H1 SA @ 30.2 | VII using H1 SA @ 29.8 | IX using H1 SA @ 30.8 |
Capcut is decent for editing. And it free
I also have no editing skills and I am not learning just to do an Hsword benchmark
I suffer with the base media player 
I don't even use Hsword I just wasn't satisfied with the benchmark given to me to prove that VI is better than IX for elites.
Just use star wipes for every transition
I'll get those classic star wars transitions and play minecraft intro music the whole time
Now do this again with headtaker rampage swords 
i just saw a zealot brag about his dps when he ran off on his own at the end to kill pox walkers at the last hallway
he even stopped to do it
whoever is king if ur in this discord ur a clown i hope you see this message
bruh heretics need killin
looks like maelstrom with monster spawns
thats not something to brag about tho
it isnt lol
at the end he went on mic and shouts "dps scores dont lie ur all dogshit"
lmfao
even something like this is ok, im not sure why people brag about it, my ego only goes high
when i get some godly 370+ rolls
thats extazy

its like bragging about green circles
in VT2
tho friendly fire is the best one

The group of heretics when a peg legged Zealot running at Mach 1 leaps into the crowd and one shots a crusher with a knife
and maybe
Shield Ogryns that do like 100k damage a run
is something to facepalm at
ME.PROTECT.DA.TEAM
no goddarn, offense is the best defense
just do something
if theres anything to brag about
it's me getting all 3 sets of eyes myself at all 3 areas during that maelstrom run
mf was too busy killing pox to ever do obj
On Twins hard mode... When being focused by Rinda or a tonne of elites is it best just to focus on dashing away and wait for someone to else to deal damage?
kill the elites if you can but otherwise just kite, yeah
whoever has rinda is doing the job of holding rinda p much
thought so, I generally use Rinda's aggro as a chance to clear the mines around the outside
uh... erm acthually SS/Rampage is meta on Hsword so you need to test it
and she's not efficient to duel if you got elites on you at the same time, I'd only really put the effort into duelling her if you're 1v1
just checking.. because after X amount of losses, you start to doubt yourself lol
and wonder if I'm the weak link most of the time
What build are you running for them?
honestly a lot of twins hard mode losses, assuming no one is having skissues, are entirely down to unlucky bomb placement and unlucky rinda dashes
Incinderator nades, book, blazing piety
though if everyone is setup and playing proper you can mostly burst down/dps check the encounter
What weapons?
You always go for the most dangerous first
silent burster in the gas jumping at me at 0 stam
lmao
there's completely random spawns too, sometimes it zercs wave after zercs and sometimes its just maulers and crushers, free estate
getting overhead cleaves with HS on leaping dogs is so satisfying, but also risky due to latency
Having one guy just go for gas mines and nothing else while everyone else dps has been a really good strat in my experience
how do i make this usable
yeah that
you can also dash to the side and sweep at them, less risky and quite easy
and that too
like a good chunk of the difficulty of the fight is rng/jank lol
classic
the actual coordination required bits are piss easy
well maybe not so easy in pubs but that's like...you know that going in lol
well it took me 5 hours in pugs, but after some people shared their experience, it was much worse for them

I really hope future bosses like this also have secret hard modes, I love the challenge
for sure
oh my brain was melting when I was just bashing my head against it
but we aren't getting a new one for next like 5 months+
but it's just boring when all the pieces come together
And it’s actually cool to have a thing that your team has to actually communicate and coordinate for lmao
I think the only thing I enjoy in that whole fight is duelling rinda and the game really likes to prevent that from happening often
and a pretty meh Lawbringer mkVI. Any ranged recommendations?
stacking health and corruption resist
Everything else in darktide is more or less hoping your team is just alive
anyway I'ma go out for a walk and enjoy this weird winter sun we've got rn
Laspistol MK2 Ghost/Dumdum
Josho carried me through my first attempt on normal with stealth Rashad, I had absolutely no idea where to stand or what was going on and got full corrupted like twice lol
brb lads, be good 

I wish farming the bosses gave more plasteel though
genuinely? I thought it was pretty meh.. but that was cause I tried it low level and it felt poo
yeah Josho and I got our first win on it together and pretty much realised you can just rashad through life np
im like 250 runs with it
ok now I walkies
if you use Chastise, feel free to try MK2
will try it 🙂
stealth rashad is just braindead good for that fight
My first try on the boss
because a clutch revive is much more valuable than it is normally
since the entire encounter is a dps race
Someone downed and it quickly went to shit from there
lastpistol will give you insane mobility, (Ghost) immune rambo battles versus gunner patrols and reapers, quick swap and enough ammo + good damage, especially with crit passive active
ppl say vet is the worst but honestly i'd much rather have VoC compared to chorus
and tag keystone/field improv is huge for that fight
yeah I just really didn't know where to go
or think about it
Isn’t psyker the worst for twins hm?
cause usually you don't have to think about it
Not really
So it's more of a stat stick?
no, my pug win run was with psyker
no, its good all arounder
psyker is fine tbh, ds4 + trauma + dome is nice for add deleting + toughness healing
Psyker bubble is good
Trauma rending psyker is legitimately one of the best anti-el,ite options
what dump stat?
laspistol deletes everything except maniac and cara
the fight is way way way more of a knowledge check
you stay as close to the center of the room as possible because elites come outta the walls
stagger is whatever
I think ogryn is not good because of the tendency to plant the shield down and big hitbox very slow
stagger being stopping power?
yeah
even when the gas section is active u can stay away from the walls so that if u get clown car'd by elites if they spawn behind
it was nerfed recently
what blessing are used for the indignatus?
also the shield regenerating when both shields aren't down threw me for a loop
so it doesnt matter much
I think in addition to this it’s important for your team to specialize a lot more
okay as a base?
skullcrusher + hammerblow. if you get stuck with trauma that's fine too
sad stopping power imo
probably like a 5% loss on flak which isn't that bad
watch it gonna get casino'ed
hammerblow stacks on cleave when you hit multiple enemies
what perks?
Ghost / Dumdum
perks
Flak/Maniac
flak/unyielding/crit chance/elites
trauma can also stack instantly if you do a push/empowered attack/fury charge
look at dis



