#zealot-class

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north sedge
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Cause everything is a moan with you

hushed knoll
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Moshing does not imply a fetish

fading vale
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cause it is

hushed knoll
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Moaning

frank night
hasty bone
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Cheesecake bed angels would not be hygienic

fading vale
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that's why he has a dam around his bed

north sedge
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And you'd sink in and drown

sly vector
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how important is Critical Bonus?

fading vale
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it's fairly important but that's usable

exotic portal
quaint verge
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ALARM

frank night
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ALARM

ripe quest
# sly vector

That revolver will be more than enough given how potent revolver is in general.

fading vale
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it's an agri

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which I wouldn't call super potent

dull stratus
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Oh so hear me out. Broken bottles! The weapon special lets you throw it for low damage high stagger. if you hit weakspot with the throw you apply +1 bleed stacks

fading vale
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but regardless, loss of 19% crit bonus isn't a huge deal

dull stratus
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New dagger type

royal vortex
ripe quest
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Good with the single target and whatnot

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Though I do think that them giving it 1.5 cleave is a teeny bit goofy

fading vale
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yeah I just don't like how it kills like 2 elites max per 5 shots

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and doesn't cleave teammates

analog ember
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I’ve seen it miss perfectly aimed shots at 10m

exotic portal
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you carry em

analog ember
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Kinda ruins the gun for me

exotic portal
analog ember
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Or just use zarona and don’t miss thumbsup_ogryn

ripe quest
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The damage is only like, ~150 off from a Zarona. It should still meet similar BPs.

steep flame
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befriend the xenos

ripe quest
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iirc it has the same as Boltgun base damage

fading vale
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well, you kinda need piety with it

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cause surgical is a thing

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in terms of relative comparison

exotic portal
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unless

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maelstrom

fading vale
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revolver does not one shot mutants

fleet zealot
ripe quest
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Yee it's one of the few guns that benefit from BP

fleet zealot
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you dont need to oneshot mutants

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they die from most melee

olive raven
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hs6 with just sustained assault/momentum/deathblow/headtaker

olive raven
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I love watching someone using the specific method for killing a crusher across all three heavy sword versus how you actually test this which is how Dawn did it

azure mortar
steep flame
exotic portal
ripe quest
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Is H1 -> SA not the single target rotation on the IX?

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Afaik the H2 and H3 are used just to chain Deathblow on higher HP enemies

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And to add, the Mk VII is literally just a moveset flip of the VI. It gets a sweep on the H1 instead of an overhead, in my mind that's marginally cooler because it has the same damage profile as the overhead and it takes advantage of Deathblow

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And you're also implying that what combo I did was specifically for Crushers. How? The special does more damage than the H2 and H3 against anything except for maniac

ripe quest
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@lean lark you're being mentioned here, what's your input? Sounds like you tested it.

lean lark
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what

dim sky
spark ember
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HS mk9 was always the best... idk wachall talkin' bout...

ripe quest
# lean lark what

Hsword comparisons. It's being said that the Mk VI is the best one because it loops to the overhead faster. Leux said you tested it in a different way than I did.

lean lark
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i didnt say it loops the overhead faster

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h6 is the best hsword due to its attacks being only strikedowns and also having the highest strikedown dmg out of every hsword

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it has slower horde clear than other hswords but it has the highest elite ttk out of all of them

ripe quest
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The damage seems the same to the other Hsword heavies.

lean lark
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no

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it isnt

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you can tell by inspecting the weapons dmg stats

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the attack breakdowns

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h6 has the highest dmg out of the other two

ember yew
lean lark
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i already made a comparison between the mk6 mk9

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for ttk

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here

ripe quest
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BP calc and the code lists the same damage

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The only difference is the IX has lower damage on the H2 and H3

indigo quartz
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i just think people here overhype the heavy sword

prisma sigil
ripe quest
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The H1 and H2 on the VII and VI, and the H1 on the IX share the same damage profile

exotic portal
ripe quest
steep flame
exotic portal
ripe quest
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I use it to benchmark stuff in solo missions

fiery ingot
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true solo mod

ripe quest
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There are mods that let you private host missions.

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You cannot join others

prisma sigil
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I wish you could progress in penances in solo missions

exotic portal
ripe quest
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No

prisma sigil
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No

ripe quest
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It's completely isolated from progression

ember yew
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im not sure why they wont allow solos though

exotic portal
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Fuck do i run these carry missions for then?

ember yew
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VT1/VT2 its allowed

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here - it is not

ripe quest
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For this test it looks like you're doing H1 -> Special Attack on the IX. The SA is worse than H2 and H3 against maniacs.

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And that's saying something since the H2 and H3 are the lowest damage heavies of the Hswords

prisma sigil
lean lark
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yeah because its strikedowns, if the h6 had the same attacks as the h9 i'd have done so

ripe quest
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yee but your test isn't using an optimal combo and you're comparing TTK between weapons

fiery ingot
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is dclaw better with piety or inexorable judgement?

ripe quest
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that isn't super representative of the IX Hsword's actual performance

lean lark
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even then, the h9 heavy loop wouldnt beat the h6 elite ttk given its got the weaker damage

ripe quest
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Yeah, for specifically maniacs

lean lark
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i used ragers as the main elite ttk benchmark given they're the most popolous enemy in the game that you can find

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and the most prevalent enemy type for elties

exotic portal
ripe quest
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The VI and VII will be better for maniacs since they have a better moveset for it. The IX's single target combo uses the SA, which has a really bad maniac ADM

exotic portal
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2500 hours ingame without 1m heresy kills, penance. KEKW_ogryn

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Gotta be rough

lean lark
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if you want to prove the fact the h9 is better than the h6 then you can make your own ttk comparison

trail grove
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If there's something like a Support Zealot build, what are the optimal weapons of choices?

open coral
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Ikr! Its an absolute blast to play, especially once you get the trajectory down. Btw, those knives one shot ragers on auric damnation if you hit them in the head.

lean lark
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i made it using weapons that are possible to get and dont take years of grinding to get

ripe quest
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I can't prove that the IX is definitivly better than the VI or the VII, that's not what I'm arguing

ember yew
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for me the difference between hs6 and hs9 is simple -
hs6 - better light attacks for horde clear, better heavy as antielites
hs9 - mediocre light attack (i just don't use them), use strikedown heavy against elites (oneshot ragers and mutants with headshot) and wide heavy strikes against hordes, combo special + heavy if needed against X

ripe quest
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I'm specifically saying they each have slight differences that aren't being represented here

trail grove
exotic portal
prisma sigil
trail grove
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Any axe?

prisma sigil
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I want that frame

exotic portal
prisma sigil
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Does anybody else love getting into a match where everyone is basically dead/down and saving the day?

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It's like you're the reinforcements

lean lark
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im not going to make 50 hour long video describing every nook and cranny of a weapon unless im sure it wont be changed or have any modifications done to it

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and given the state of darktide

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its a waste of time

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and would be useful for a month or two

trail grove
exotic portal
ember yew
open coral
ember yew
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free stuff in like 5 mins

lean lark
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making a barebones generelization would instead give you a clearer idea in a short amount of time of its effectiveness

rustic lagoon
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And so my cursed blade reaches its apex, and a new blessing is revealed. Seems even Death can upgrade.

trail grove
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Dear God...

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You upgraded a shitty thingamajig.

fiery ingot
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they're low level

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aint no way you can get that low rating on a lvl 30

exotic portal
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much fresh corpse starchKEKW_ogryn
For the grinder

ember yew
rustic lagoon
ripe quest
lean lark
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okay

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go ahead and make a better ttk comparison

exotic portal
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Like surgical on a mag dump weapon

lean lark
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also keep in mind that video is pre-rager nerf

ripe quest
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I'm just gonna do a fresh one with both Ragers yee

exotic portal
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GG mods

trail grove
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With Agripinaa Infantry Autogun, is it fine to have Sustained Fire and Punishing Salvo?

vocal pulsar
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you want dum dum on infantry auto gun

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and flak damage perk

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idk what the second blessing should be, i dont use iag (infantry autogun)

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but i know you want dum dum

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if i had to guess, the second blessing is probably fire frenzy

exotic portal
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fking trappers are still a fucking hassle.

open echo
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What lmfao

fiery ingot
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does anyone knows if anoint in blood affects kantrael shotgun slug dot damage?

open echo
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that is not how you hold a flamethrower

rough galleon
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Damn they added handflamers?

placid fiber
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I'm back, the sitters told you guys to take me back and then left. x.x

olive raven
fading vale
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anoint is just an always take for me

fiery ingot
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oh thats great then. anything to melt bulwarks faster

royal vortex
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anoint is p much the best of the 3 one-point damage nodes

olive raven
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Fr

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I take anoit if I have an extra node usually

fading vale
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also anoint is active from 8m and falls off linearly to 30m

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well, max from 0-8m

ripe quest
olive raven
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It is only better for Flak or Carapace iirc

ripe quest
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Unyielding Cara and Flak yee

olive raven
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This is due to the lower damage to armor and thus wanting to cycle quick

ripe quest
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That is a significant chunk of elites. H2 H3 will be better for Unarmored and Maniacs.

olive raven
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With

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Gunners, Shotgunners, Dreg Ragers, all Specialists

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You just do heavies

ripe quest
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yee they got a very nice moveset for groups

olive raven
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It’s only Ogryns, Scab Mauler (maybe Scab Rager) and Crusher

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Do you actually use the H1 -> special loop

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I typically don’t even use that loop for non-armored ogryns

ripe quest
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Again, anything Flak Carapace and Unyielding

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Doesn't matter if it's a group or not

olive raven
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And with your video

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Dawn came to the logical conclusion of things have better TTK or not

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By using a larger group, not just a singular hit

ripe quest
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Also I find it extremely funny that the VII is like, a second worse at most tasks to the VI but then with Scab Ragers just obliterates the VI

fading vale
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I mean you can one shot anything flak except for ragers, and you one shot ragers with chastise

olive raven
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And you also want the overhead on demand, not the sweep

ripe quest
ripe heron
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Every heavy sword does the same combo on maulers/crushers. spam special.

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identical attack times.

olive raven
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Hence why the 6 & 9 are better as you can get an overhead when you need it, compared to the 7

ripe quest
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I don't see how that's much desirable on a Deathblow weapon.

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Esp since the sweep on the VI and VII have the same exact damage profile to the overhead

olive raven
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It allows proper H1->Special cycling

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Opening with a move that will likely hit weak point no matter what is generally better

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Like overheads are good as a H1

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Dawn has a video somewhere here

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That shows the actual TTK difference for the IX and 6

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Using a group of dreg ragers

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It’s entirely flawed logic to base anything off one singular hit using god rolled weapons

ripe quest
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I've never benchmarked something off of a singular weapon hit

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Literally all of my tests use the standard 50 count benchmark

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I commonly will show off flashy stuff or moveset demonstrations with a single elite since it's not fun to do those against a 50 count benchmark

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Again, incase you didn't read, that video I put earlier with the H1 - SA was specifically to show you that the IX has a 2 hit combo with the H1.

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It also didn't even use a godrolled weapon iirc, was just a white item

zealous basin
olive raven
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I was referencing the scab rager video.

ripe quest
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That video was showing that all of the strikedowns share the same damage profile

flat anvil
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Guys i did just a flesh of wound more than 6 times under 16 mins with one health bar from start till end but didn’t get anything what should i do?

olive raven
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Was it

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In a private match

quaint verge
muted sonnet
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sad as hell but yeah it needs to be in a priv match

flat anvil
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With three other zealot non of us get it

royal vortex
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are you sure the lobby was set to private and you weren't just in a 4 man premade

lean lark
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happy birthday nacho

frank night
royal vortex
flat anvil
quaint verge
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You need to set it before starting it

flat anvil
quaint verge
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PrIvAtE

flat anvil
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I set the match from public to private

quaint verge
royal vortex
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what dif did you do it on

steel agate
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Private?

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Private

opaque island
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game just hates you then

frank night
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Privée

flat anvil
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I sent a ticket to supports but nothing happened yet

frank night
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probably be waiting a while

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given the day

flat anvil
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Full of bug this game

royal vortex
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what difficulty did u do it on

quaint verge
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Did you go down or die during the run?

fading vale
flat anvil
opaque island
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you sure it was private? :^)

fading vale
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hey bro did you do it on private? are you sure you're sure you're sure?

quaint verge
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If you die during the round, it won't count the private match

north sedge
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doesnt it have to be less than a wound

fading vale
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yeah less than a wound

royal vortex
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yea

quaint verge
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In a private match NODDERS

north sedge
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they said one wound left, dunno if they managed to keep hp maxed or something

frank night
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last time I did it was with leux dont remember how much they had

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if they did it 6 times they probably had at least one run without a disqualifier tho

fading vale
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but was it in a private match

frank night
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a mystery

royal vortex
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mittins

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arco is using the frog against me

north sedge
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i've never bothered to do it, i once agreed to help a pubby with it back in the day and the vet immediately stepped onto a dh and the others paniced and ran forward while i solo'd the dh, as you can imagine it ended up being a wipe cause of the panic run

royal vortex
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help

fading vale
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how does one use the frog against you

frank night
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ur not capable of hostile rpg responses so unfortunately you're doomed

royal vortex
frank night
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it stares

fading vale
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lmao

royal vortex
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i was complaining about having to put in effort for the project i have embarked on

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but i must stop the fkin "i spam specials with crusher and its super safe and cozywozy" stuff from appearing in my feed

fading vale
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what do I search to find this frog

royal vortex
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uhhhh

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allow me to locate the image

royal vortex
fading vale
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lol

royal vortex
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big steve wearing a sombrero energy

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tbh

olive raven
frank night
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i dont remember if you died or not

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i know you went down

hasty bone
olive raven
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But then went back to 75% of a wound as soon as I could

quaint verge
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In a private match COZYCRAB

royal vortex
warm trellis
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god I love that crab

royal vortex
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stan fkin HATES it lmao

quaint verge
polar nexus
quaint verge
polar nexus
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So it's still Sunday for them :3

quaint verge
polar nexus
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I already live in the future.

warm trellis
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fucked up

quaint verge
polar nexus
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Nothing has changed. No flying cars. No global health insurance for you fellow muricans

steel agate
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So do u have flying cars mr free health care? hmmgryn

warm trellis
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yes

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get with the times

steel agate
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Wait shit he said fellow muricans I just committed friendly fire

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Guarded I should be executed

warm trellis
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treason

buoyant pecan
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With how stupid people are. I wouldn't want anyone to have a flying car

buoyant pecan
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Can you imagine all the morons you see driving? Flying?

steel agate
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We’d kill more than just birds lemme tell ya

polar nexus
polar nexus
warm trellis
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it might solve the problem of having too many people on the road at least

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one way to reduce the number of vehicles

quaint verge
buoyant pecan
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Reduce the number of living people too

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Every Tuesday, a terrorist attack? Nope. Just another jackass who thought they could eyeball it without the instrument panel

frank night
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when you completely stall your car 300 feet up

buoyant pecan
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Also who tf is gonna get rid of all the asphalt

sharp zodiac
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Kevin

frank night
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kevin left the server u dumbass

sharp zodiac
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The other one

frank night
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how is the wine

royal vortex
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kevin did not leave

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he was forcibly removed

sharp zodiac
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Eh

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Too young for me

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I like em old

buoyant pecan
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What

royal vortex
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very glad to hear that

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my god

frank night
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what did kevin do to prompt execution

royal vortex
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homophobic statements in the vt2 discord

frank night
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cos he was doing his bit for ages

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oh

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its always the guys who do a bit

buoyant pecan
polar nexus
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Wait, what???

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Did he said it in Kevin voice?

royal vortex
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to my knowledge

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yes

buoyant pecan
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Man did a bit and got got?

polar nexus
buoyant pecan
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Hello, Moderation team? I'd like to report one count of friendly fire.
Yes I'll hold.

warm trellis
buoyant pecan
warm trellis
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asphalt and suck my ass

polar nexus
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How can people be so stupid to say homophobic or racist stuff in a "public" place?

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Teenagers?

sullen ocean
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Question hypothetically could you get the just a flesh wound Penance with the twins boss skip on heresy?

median steeple
frank night
polar nexus
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True

frank night
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and then when they go mask off in a public place its a shock when consequences happen

median steeple
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Well well well if it isn't the consequences of my actions

frank night
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and then the ban appeal message is something something woke

warm trellis
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it's pretty funny when it happens, seeing shit people get dunked I can never get enough of

polar nexus
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I am glad there's consequences

opaque island
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I still don't get how woke is a slur, is it not a good thing to be awake and aware?

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That's my take

steel agate
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I woke up, does that mean I just said a slur explaining how I just came from dreamland? whatthefuck_heresy

frank night
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idk if it's a slur

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it's just the thing I ctrl f when I see a rant to see how deranged the writer was

steel agate
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I feel the right term is “slang”

opaque island
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Good point

frank night
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because someone who types 'woke' unironically is usually down some psycho rabbit hole

warm trellis
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it's been the weakest insult for years and for some reason it's everything they disagree with now

buoyant pecan
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Both sides of the argument are crazy af imo

polar nexus
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A lot of people see woke and think social justice crusaders. Except It's not.

frank night
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I haven't seen 'SJW' in a while

warm trellis
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it's the conservative equivalent of calling everyone you disagree with a nazi but way more ubiquitous

frank night
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I used to see it a lot from online guys who were very upset about Black Panther existing

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and also Brie Larson or Brie Parson whatever her surname is

median steeple
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Pronouns in thu video game has hurteth my feelings you snowflakes

frank night
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I remember when heelvsbabyface was a wow only guy

polar nexus
frank night
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and his entire personality was being a ranty whingy guy about the new wow expansions

warm trellis
median steeple
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Praise be

royal vortex
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hello incan

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sorry

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Quinoa

median steeple
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Uh oh the overlord arrived

frosty herald
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Ryan gosling is a great actor for tashalla

frank night
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ok its brie larson

warm trellis
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did someone trigger the mod alarm

frank night
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the hate for this woman is genuinely like

warm trellis
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it was me wasn't it

frank night
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insane

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its crazy

royal vortex
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that was set off earlier by a porn bot

frank night
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its out of this world

warm trellis
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oh

royal vortex
median steeple
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Ah I love waking up to rain on New Year's Day

frank night
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I wish I had some rn I ran out of almonds yesterday

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and then I got home after the shops closed

sharp zodiac
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I hate nuts

royal vortex
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that reminds me

modest quiver
royal vortex
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no it doesnt

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actually

frank night
royal vortex
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i dont remember if that was a thought i had or something i actually said

sharp zodiac
frank night
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cheating

quaint verge
polar nexus
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What's the pb with Brie Larson?

royal vortex
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the crusher guide is coming along nicely i have made real progress instead of saying i need to start working on it for 2 hours while getting increasingly agitated at myself

frank night
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de-acronym pb for me

polar nexus
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Is the hate an American online pop culture thing?

frank night
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its your generic video essay on how the MCU is collapsing because Captain Marvel

polar nexus
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Apparently people hate Brie Larson

frank night
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like that joke about some poor lady posting a vid in which she didn't like the joker movie

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and then the response from some lunatic was 11 hours long

olive raven
buoyant pecan
polar nexus
olive raven
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And not actually criticizing their skills as an actress or whatever

median steeple
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hating actors for bad writing is so weird

warm trellis
north sedge
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They are sexist weirdos, basically

frank night
royal vortex
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mauler

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makes sense

median steeple
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like they have the object permanence of a fucking baby the only thing that exists is what they can see

olive raven
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12 hours???

royal vortex
olive raven
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What absolute fucking tap session

frank night
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its actually hard to just google 'brie larson hate'

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because it just returns the opinions of people who hate brie larson

royal vortex
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because i have had ppl interrogate me for "how do you handle X elite type"

frank night
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and not an overview

buoyant pecan
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Like I don't like Captain Marvel movie, it was shit. Brie ain't got nothing to down with why it was shit tho.
Now the script. Whoever wrote that shit. Yea. That guy or girl sucks

royal vortex
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that and ive done some breakpoint math stuff for certain enemies that u can kinda deterministically use breakpoint math for like bulwarks

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fuck doing it for ragers/crushers/maulers though

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u put em on the ground and u hit em till they stop moving

frank night
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I pity the poor lady who is gonna depict the woman in the last of us 2

north sedge
frank night
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the chuds are gonna explode

median steeple
royal vortex
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one funny thing i found

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is that if you're looking for a trapper one shot

royal vortex
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it's easier to do it with a push attack than a h1

median steeple
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oh the actor who is gonna play abby is in for it and I feel bad

frank night
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oh

copper hawk
royal vortex
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because the push applies skullcrusher

olive raven
frank night
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is this why your discord status was

ripe quest
frank night
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'psykhanium 1:45:32'

median steeple
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good morning

frosty herald
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Very strange

royal vortex
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yes

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that is why

frosty herald
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People dont like a misandrist

royal vortex
frosty herald
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Very strange indeed

royal vortex
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but really crusher doesn't have too many crazy armor type differences

ripe quest
olive raven
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I’d assume a blunt weapon doesn’t have too many ADMs

royal vortex
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i think the dumbest thing i did

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was including BPs based on momentum stacks

median steeple
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oh god I wish I could use external stickers

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I have some bangers

ripe quest
royal vortex
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this is such a fucking BITCH to test and also changes depending on slight fluctuation in weapon stats

north sedge
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Ok but nacho josiah, why flamer so weak?!

olive raven
royal vortex
warm trellis
royal vortex
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I WANT THE DATA

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i made it sound worse

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than it actually is

olive raven
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nacho josiah why bleed no kill crusher in 1 tick

olive raven
royal vortex
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i just used momentum stacks as the final buff if desperation/sustained assault etc wouldnt cut it

olive raven
#

It’s only fun if you are acoustic

royal vortex
#

and if it takes more than 20 i just say u need duellist for it

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

because im not testing with marty

#

please god exhilious

#

a bp calc with talents

frank night
#

im not allowed to say any words

royal vortex
#

would make life so much more easy

olive raven
#

We genuinely need

ripe quest
#

That's the plan

olive raven
#

Just

frank night
#

without violating treaties

olive raven
#

A long written formula

royal vortex
#

i give u permission mittins

olive raven
#

For how to calculate damage

frank night
#

no

#

this is a trap

royal vortex
#

why would it be a trap

frank night
#

darth sidious ass mf

quaint verge
#

Hyper focus is a bitch NODDERS

north sedge
#

2 + 2 = dmg

#

I am genius

royal vortex
#

i did pretty much all of the main testing keystoneless unless i needed extra damage

ripe quest
#

Also leux I have the data but it consists of like 12 videos and I don't know editing

copper hawk
#

Hai ciaphas

delicate shadow
#

joker was legit mid

olive raven
#

@quaint verge this kransekage is hitting diff

royal vortex
#

if someone bitches about not using marty they can just turn 8 momentum stacks into 1 marty and do the math themselves

olive raven
median steeple
#

my cat has taken over my keyboard

delicate shadow
olive raven
#

Writers fucked Joaquin with a shit plot

delicate shadow
#

though Phoenix seems cursed to be a great actor in fuckin dumb movies rn

copper hawk
warm trellis
#

people claiming joker was the most influential movie of their lives are walking red flags

median steeple
#

god the Napoleon movie makes me sad

delicate shadow
#

like Napoleon is some hot garbage

#

man deserves better movies

quaint verge
ripe quest
warm trellis
#

cage does it intentionally

delicate shadow
#

Cage at least like, makes shit movies kinda his playground tho y'know

ripe quest
trail grove
frank night
#

this is idd a gun

north sedge
#

Cage got there by bad financial decisions

delicate shadow
#

like everyone loves watching cage just fuckin be himself it doesn't matter what the movie is

frank night
median steeple
#

the best thing DBD did was add him

royal vortex
#

i have assembled a collection

#

of crushers

polar nexus
trail grove
frank night
#

stam to maniac

warm trellis
#

I run marty with 5 or 6 wounds, AMA

olive raven
warm trellis
#

optimal is boring

trail grove
#

I don't like weakspot damage, honestly.

median steeple
#

Bros got a dragons horde of crushers

quaint verge
olive raven
#

Like the fuckin what horror did he do

polar nexus
olive raven
#

Molly???

#

That movie was wild

delicate shadow
#

He's done a couple horror flicks

north sedge
#

Mandy

frank night
#

Cage is a really good actor, he will just take any role that even vaguely interests him

fading vale
olive raven
frank night
#

choose your poison really

trail grove
#

It's the blessing.

olive raven
#

Eh that too

delicate shadow
#

Cage is actually at his best when directors just let him do whatever the fuck he wants

frank night
#

you've already got dum dum on there which is rly nice

trail grove
#

I've Raking Fire and Sustained Fire

frank night
#

so you've either got a naff perk or a naff blessing

fading vale
#

oh punishing salvo is bad

frank night
#

flip a coin

copper hawk
#

I liked the Japer movie

#

..

trail grove
#

Honestly, I prefer Raking Fire on it.

copper hawk
median steeple
#

joker was great but I aint rewatching it

olive raven
#

I’m curious about Cage’s new dream movie

trail grove
#

With Stamina, at least I can run for a bit longer with it.

olive raven
#

That seems interesting

median steeple
#

same with the new batman movie

royal vortex
#

@fading vale something i've figured out is that despite hammerblow stacking on-hit and trauma stacking on-repeated-hit, both will stack to full instantly if you push or chastise into a horde

copper hawk
#

I probz is gonna rewatch it

#

The Joker anyways

royal vortex
#

which is... fucking weird, because trauma doesn't stack on cleave from normal attacks

copper hawk
#

Idk bout the Bamman moopie

fading vale
median steeple
#

have you seen it?

copper hawk
#

It sorta falls apart at the end

#

Yah

royal vortex
#

THEY MUST KNOW

copper hawk
#

It unravels itself at the end like a lot of movies recently do

delicate shadow
#

Joker was just kinda eh, the acting from everyone was great tho, but it really was just taxi driver for zoomers

copper hawk
#

Iirc I fell asleep at the end of the batman movie

#

Overstayed its welcome

frosty herald
#

It was pretty sad joker was revealed to be schizophrenic

olive raven
#

I mean

#

That makes fucking sense

royal vortex
#

it also stacks from the explosion on an activated light/heavy

delicate shadow
#

the way they portray schizophrenia was kinda...not good either tbh

olive raven
#

The entire joker character is a fucking psychopathic nut case

fading vale
royal vortex
#

funnily enough

#

if you do a special light

#

it will stack on the targets hit by the (smaller) aoe suppression/blast

delicate shadow
#

like my nan was schizo and yeah sure she had a lot of problems but she wasn't that

olive raven
#

Schizophrenic joker, cool makes sense. But it was done so shit

royal vortex
#

but if you cleave through them and hit someone without the blast radius touching that guy

#

it doesn't count

#

i think

#

actually i may be wrong

delicate shadow
#

meanwhile one of my old friends lives with it and is medicated and does mostly fine

olive raven
#

Yea

#

I’ve got a friend with it and they do fine

verbal sequoia
#

got me a nice revolver today

olive raven
#

Albeit they have to take some strong ass pills

#

Prescription

#

And they function

delicate shadow
#

but expecting healthy/reasonable portrayal of mental health issues in a hollywood movie is just a bridge too far

olive raven
delicate shadow
#

literally never happening

median steeple
#

movies and the demonization of mental health issues and its consequences

copper hawk
#

I think it's not just the mental malady that makes him the way he is, in how it's shown in the movie

olive raven
#

I think there was like

#

One movie

#

I saw something decent

#

For respresentaiton

#

But it was the whole

copper hawk
#

It's the other comorbid psychology pathology all bundled together that makes him the way he is

olive raven
#

“Omg look at this savant!” Trope

#

It’s so bad

copper hawk
#

Like the sociopathy

frosty herald
#

Scott pilgrim is the perfect autism movie

olive raven
#

no.

#

I fucking hate Scott Pilgrim

copper hawk
#

And the vulnerable narcissism

median steeple
#

my brain is still warming up so I cant remember anything from from my psych courses

#

time to play darktide

frosty herald
#

Every ryan gosling movie is about autism

north sedge
#

🤔

twin wagon
frank night
#

Yamato this is an intervention

ivory marlin
frank night
#

You are not Ryan Gosling

frosty herald
#

I am literally him

gray ice
#

You do not have that dog in you

#

I'm sorry I had to tell you

olive raven
#

Yamato, do we need to remind you of your Christmas gift

median steeple
#

the IRS aren't gonna get my money ( I'm not american )

olive raven
#

Do we really need to remind you

north sedge
#

Yamato is Ryan gosling, but specifically from the snl sketch about the Avatar font

frosty herald
#

I will get you banned

ivory marlin
#

Hi vin

copper hawk
gray ice
#

Hi gale

north sedge
olive raven
gray ice
#

How were your holidays and such

copper hawk
#

Nob

#

Noh

#

I love Ogryn larpers

north sedge
buoyant pecan
copper hawk
#

Not my fav larper screenshot though

ivory marlin
copper hawk
buoyant pecan
#

Whenever boysmells come around it's always Cica

copper hawk
#

That is NOT what thst is

gray ice
copper hawk
#

U NEED HELP

#

I cant live rente free in ur head..

olive raven
copper hawk
#

Ill leave it a mess..

median steeple
#

just got off a shift at the

buoyant pecan
copper hawk
#

Uh oh

heavy arch
#

what blessings for crit evis 2?

copper hawk
#

Gonna get banned finally

heavy arch
#

do you need savage sweep or no

copper hawk
#

For Ringleading

ivory marlin
copper hawk
#

N00oo00o0o00o0o00h

north sedge
ivory marlin
#

Oh hi cica

copper hawk
#

Hi stranger

ivory marlin
#

Didn’t realize it was you

olive raven
median steeple
#

cica makes a noise that a ghost would make when banished

olive raven
#

Well you know who the favorite is 💀

gray ice
heavy arch
#

mk 2

copper hawk
#

At the

buoyant pecan
heavy arch
#

wondering what to change

olive raven
gray ice
#

You want savage sweep then. Shred/Sweep is good, as is shred/rampage if you're doing crit

ivory marlin
copper hawk
heavy arch
#

shred sweep is good huh

#

ill try

copper hawk
#

I hate crit evid

#

Evis..

gray ice
#

I mean you can still run it with rampage/sweep and then just take crit talents

#

you don't necessarily need shred

olive raven
#

Rampage is the usual tbh

gray ice
#

Honestly I haven't played much recently, might go play for a bit

olive raven
#

God my mother trying to learn how to talk in Danish is fucking wild

median steeple
#

I fucking love danish its so goofy

fading vale
#

isn't Danish like kinda fucked up

#

or is that Finnish

median steeple
#

Dutch is pretty fucked up

#

the one sentence that is stuck in my head forever is Hitler dood, what nou?

dense field
#

That's a good evis

quaint verge
#

Ye, danish sucks

polar nexus
gray ice
median steeple
#

ah cool my game crashed Soulless

quaint verge
median steeple
#

the danish agenda

quaint verge
#

shite language IMO

onyx solar
#

Deathspitter and FF aren't great on shotguns, right? Gotta trash both of these blessings .-.

north sedge
#

no those are on the better end

#

but you want no respite

onyx solar
#

Ah, was told I definitely want Full Bore and No Respite

#

But is Full Bore even good on a Kantrael IX?

quaint verge
#

if you like shooting big targets, yes

north sedge
#

no respite for sure, full bore is fine

gray ice
#

FB is fine but not as consistent

next chasm
#

Clutching on Zealot feels soooo good

gray ice
#

Just switch one of those to no respite, and specialists to maniac or unyielding or something and you'll have a perfect kant

onyx solar
#

Hmm, alright. Thank you

#

Any idea on which blessing to swap?

north sedge
#

Deathspitter

onyx solar
#

I'm not aware of the difference between Close Damage and Power, besides Power applying to.. non close damage

next chasm
#

Well you just named the difference

onyx solar
#

welp

next chasm
#

Power affects: Damage, Cleave targets and Stagger

#

Damage affects: Well, Damage

onyx solar
#

Does power on ranged weapons affect ranged cleave?

quaint verge
#

you dont need the cleave on kant, since the special has infinite cleave

open pollen
#

I didn't want to ask this in the psyker chat 'cause I didn't want to make folks mad. But does the psyker tree seem a little, 'less fun' than the other trees? Like, most trees have loads of talents that make me go "I want that" but Psyker only has a couple. Anyone else feel this or am I just being biased against psykers?

#

Excluding the major nodes, of course. I mean just regular talents

#

The blue ones

steel agate
#

You fear making people mad?

#

Ur on a social media my friend, ur bound to make someone mad accidentally

ember yew
#

feel free to create

#

||HELL ON EARTH||

open pollen
#

I don't want to rain on someone's parade with my negativity.

ember yew
#

don't be afraid

gray ice
#

I mean I like the psyker stuff about as much as any other class besides zealot

open pollen
#

Which is why I posted it here, we're all negative here

ember yew
#

but otherwise

quaint verge
#

gunker is pretty fun

steel agate
ember yew
#

The only thing i dont like about Psyker is brainburst ability which is kinda meh (i know that it was nerfed pretty hard)

steel agate
#

No skin off ur behind

gray ice
#

They get a lot of effective nodes, but like with any class there's some uninteresting or basic stuff

gray ice
#

I still don't like what they did with warp charges though, probably never going to use it until I can use my ability without dunking my charges

delicate shadow
quaint verge
delicate shadow
#

like every skill tree does have problems rn even if the classes are still fun to play

ornate bone
#

As a le epib bsyker mane

gray ice
#

get out

ornate bone
#

I think it's annoying and diagonal

#

I can't have fun stuff because the fun stuff wants me to do zigzagging

#

Fatshark was doing the Seth Rogen laugh while forbidding me from getting crit aura and shriek

#

Or cooldown on kill and crit aura

#

Or crit aura and peril toughness

open pollen
ornate bone
#

Or making warp siphon not cost 200 points and being pestered by annoying travel nodes

#

Wow I can't wait to get more aura radius and quell speed on my dueling sword

#

And then warp siphon doesn't work properly with scrier's gaze anyway

#

And using shield sucks because it needs you to ask permission from the Mourningstar so your fucking input registers

lone pecan
#

Since we are talking about the tree, how good is enduring faith if I go for crit? Is it a must have and possibly worth getting over grenades and then just not using the knives? KEKW_ogryn

gray ice
ripe quest
open pollen
#

Oh, wait, I know why. It's because we've only got 21 blue nodes while vet has like, 40+

ripe quest
#

I'd recommend it esp since you can grab Second Wind

open pollen
#

Zealot has 35+ and psykers doesn't get any red talent nodes either

lone pecan
ripe quest
ember yew
#

oh god i want level 35

#

and +5 talent points

#

how much gae can we become

open pollen
#

See, that's something I don't feel with Psyker. I get all the main nodes I want/can get, then I have extras left over and have nothing worth spending them on.

ember yew
#

zealot is one of the fun ones, most talents enhance gameplay in some way, like dodge oriented, or reduce recoil or cooldown reduction or stealth/cc

#

psyker is just like your ranged turret with some management mechanics

ripe quest
#

Prob helps that Psyker's tree has the exclusive talents setup depending on what blitz and aura you pick.

ember yew
#

not sure how they can get psyker more exciting to play

#

probably you need to enjoy quickswap/management

open pollen
#

Adding another 20 nodes might help. I would love more choices that boost 100% peril lifestyle. Like, maybe a red-blue node that lets you explode for free every X seconds (some big number I reckon?) Or get 20% more movement speed at max peril.

south folio
#

gib psyker a precision force staff

#

voidstrike doesn't count

ember yew
#

im VT2 sienna can go crazy melee build

#

based on resource management

#

but psyker dont have one right?

#

could've copied that

#

not like its not cannon (melee psykers)

open pollen
#

On the otherhand, more nodes that boost your first warp attack when you have no peril might be neat too.

verbal sequoia
#

you can go scriers gaze iwth an illithi force sword and excorcist on it

#

works well for melee

#

psyker

ember yew
#

arent grey cardinals technically psykers?

south folio
#

gib 2h force sword with an offensive push-attack

ripe quest
#

@lean lark I have all the videos but no editing software, if you want a look at a specific benchmark I can put it.

Used the same build for all benchmarks. Used Flak/Maniac Headtaker/Deathblow for all three Hswords. Results can vary a good amount when hitting different BPs. Overheads have more potency in a 50 benchmark than in actual gameplay, from various solo tests with the same build the overheads would get 1-3 kills. VII's sweep has a better hitbox than the VI's sweep.

IX dominates with light spam, and of course has about the same H1 SA performance as the other Hswords (VII's will be a bit better for groups). In each benchmark H1 SA on the IX outpaced H2 H3. VI and VII have better Flak/Maniac/Unyielding performance. Technically they also offer better Unarmored/Infested single target but I cannot find a case where the difference means anything (Except maybe the twins?) + IX has better light spam when considering fodder. All Hswords have the same Carapace performance.

Benchmark Results:
Dreg Ragers - VII using H1 H2 @ 10.4
Scab Ragers - VI using H1 H2 @ 28.3
Comparisons:
Dreg Ragers - VI using H1 H2 @ 12.3 | IX using H1 SA @ 18.7 |
Scab Ragers - VI using H1 SA @ 30.2 | VII using H1 SA @ 29.8 | IX using H1 SA @ 30.8 |

quaint verge
#

Capcut is decent for editing. And it free

ripe quest
#

I also have no editing skills and I am not learning just to do an Hsword benchmark

steel agate
ripe quest
#

I don't even use Hsword I just wasn't satisfied with the benchmark given to me to prove that VI is better than IX for elites.

north sedge
ripe quest
#

I'll get those classic star wars transitions and play minecraft intro music the whole time

thorn imp
#

Its 2024, my new year resolution is knife bad

dense field
heavy arch
#

i just saw a zealot brag about his dps when he ran off on his own at the end to kill pox walkers at the last hallway

#

he even stopped to do it

#

whoever is king if ur in this discord ur a clown i hope you see this message

blazing fossil
#

bruh heretics need killin

ember yew
#

looks like maelstrom with monster spawns

heavy arch
#

it was

#

super toxic lvl 500+ zealot

#

most toxic ive ever seen tbhwu

ember yew
#

thats not something to brag about tho

heavy arch
#

it isnt lol

#

at the end he went on mic and shouts "dps scores dont lie ur all dogshit"

#

lmfao

ember yew
#

even something like this is ok, im not sure why people brag about it, my ego only goes high

#

when i get some godly 370+ rolls

#

thats extazy

#

its like bragging about green circles

#

in VT2

#

tho friendly fire is the best one

rose flower
#

The group of heretics when a peg legged Zealot running at Mach 1 leaps into the crowd and one shots a crusher with a knife

ember yew
#

and maybe

#

Shield Ogryns that do like 100k damage a run

#

is something to facepalm at

#

ME.PROTECT.DA.TEAM

#

no goddarn, offense is the best defense

#

just do something

buoyant pecan
heavy arch
#

if theres anything to brag about

#

it's me getting all 3 sets of eyes myself at all 3 areas during that maelstrom run

#

mf was too busy killing pox to ever do obj

modest quiver
#

On Twins hard mode... When being focused by Rinda or a tonne of elites is it best just to focus on dashing away and wait for someone to else to deal damage?

delicate shadow
#

kill the elites if you can but otherwise just kite, yeah

#

whoever has rinda is doing the job of holding rinda p much

modest quiver
#

thought so, I generally use Rinda's aggro as a chance to clear the mines around the outside

ripe quest
delicate shadow
#

and she's not efficient to duel if you got elites on you at the same time, I'd only really put the effort into duelling her if you're 1v1

modest quiver
#

just checking.. because after X amount of losses, you start to doubt yourself lol

#

and wonder if I'm the weak link most of the time

ripe quest
#

What build are you running for them?

delicate shadow
#

honestly a lot of twins hard mode losses, assuming no one is having skissues, are entirely down to unlucky bomb placement and unlucky rinda dashes

modest quiver
#

Incinderator nades, book, blazing piety

delicate shadow
#

though if everyone is setup and playing proper you can mostly burst down/dps check the encounter

ripe quest
#

What weapons?

modest quiver
#

mk15 shred/rampage

#

sorry in a game

royal vortex
#

lmao

ember yew
blazing fossil
#

getting overhead cleaves with HS on leaping dogs is so satisfying, but also risky due to latency

viral hare
#

Having one guy just go for gas mines and nothing else while everyone else dps has been a really good strat in my experience

topaz trellis
#

how do i make this usable

delicate shadow
ember yew
delicate shadow
#

like a good chunk of the difficulty of the fight is rng/jank lol

ember yew
#

classic

delicate shadow
#

the actual coordination required bits are piss easy

#

well maybe not so easy in pubs but that's like...you know that going in lol

ember yew
#

well it took me 5 hours in pugs, but after some people shared their experience, it was much worse for them

viral hare
#

I really hope future bosses like this also have secret hard modes, I love the challenge

ember yew
#

for sure

delicate shadow
#

oh my brain was melting when I was just bashing my head against it

ember yew
#

but we aren't getting a new one for next like 5 months+

delicate shadow
#

but it's just boring when all the pieces come together

viral hare
#

And it’s actually cool to have a thing that your team has to actually communicate and coordinate for lmao

delicate shadow
#

I think the only thing I enjoy in that whole fight is duelling rinda and the game really likes to prevent that from happening often

modest quiver
#

stacking health and corruption resist

viral hare
#

Everything else in darktide is more or less hoping your team is just alive

delicate shadow
#

anyway I'ma go out for a walk and enjoy this weird winter sun we've got rn

ember yew
fading vale
#

Josho carried me through my first attempt on normal with stealth Rashad, I had absolutely no idea where to stand or what was going on and got full corrupted like twice lol

delicate shadow
#

brb lads, be good pet_the_gryn

ember yew
viral hare
#

I wish farming the bosses gave more plasteel though

modest quiver
delicate shadow
delicate shadow
#

ok now I walkies

ember yew
#

if you use Chastise, feel free to try MK2

modest quiver
royal vortex
#

stealth rashad is just braindead good for that fight

frosty herald
#

My first try on the boss

royal vortex
#

because a clutch revive is much more valuable than it is normally

#

since the entire encounter is a dps race

frosty herald
#

Someone downed and it quickly went to shit from there

ember yew
#

lastpistol will give you insane mobility, (Ghost) immune rambo battles versus gunner patrols and reapers, quick swap and enough ammo + good damage, especially with crit passive active

royal vortex
#

ppl say vet is the worst but honestly i'd much rather have VoC compared to chorus

#

and tag keystone/field improv is huge for that fight

fading vale
#

or think about it

viral hare
#

Isn’t psyker the worst for twins hm?

fading vale
#

cause usually you don't have to think about it

frosty herald
#

Not really

modest quiver
ember yew
ember yew
royal vortex
#

psyker is fine tbh, ds4 + trauma + dome is nice for add deleting + toughness healing

north sedge
#

Psyker bubble is good

flat marsh
modest quiver
fading vale
royal vortex
#

the fight is way way way more of a knowledge check

ember yew
#

mobility is better to have tho

royal vortex
#

you stay as close to the center of the room as possible because elites come outta the walls

ember yew
#

stagger is whatever

frosty herald
#

I think ogryn is not good because of the tendency to plant the shield down and big hitbox very slow

modest quiver
#

stagger being stopping power?

ember yew
#

yeah

royal vortex
#

even when the gas section is active u can stay away from the walls so that if u get clown car'd by elites if they spawn behind

ember yew
#

it was nerfed recently

dark thunder
#

what blessing are used for the indignatus?

fading vale
#

also the shield regenerating when both shields aren't down threw me for a loop

ember yew
#

so it doesnt matter much

viral hare
modest quiver
#

okay as a base?

royal vortex
ember yew
#

a good one

royal vortex
#

you just need skullcrusher

#

avoid thunderstrike always, it's garbage

fading vale
#

probably like a 5% loss on flak which isn't that bad

ember yew
#

watch it gonna get casino'ed

modest quiver
#

for sure

#

Let's roll the slots

royal vortex
#

hammerblow stacks on cleave when you hit multiple enemies

royal vortex
#

so if you do a sweeping attack into a horde you instantly get 3/4/5 stacks

#

but

modest quiver
#

what perks?

ember yew
#

Ghost / Dumdum

modest quiver
#

perks

ember yew
#

Flak/Maniac

fading vale
#

flak/unyielding/crit chance/elites

royal vortex
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trauma can also stack instantly if you do a push/empowered attack/fury charge

modest quiver
ember yew
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look at dis