#zealot-class

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hollow leaf
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When I play Ogryn w/ shield all I do is pay attention to stuff. Because literally you're either observing and reacting or observing and reporting to the others what you're observing.

craggy maple
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A lot of voice lines says Zola is intentionally keeping the traitors/heretics around as part of his "plan"?

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So....ya totally a heretic.

hollow leaf
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And thus we'd also have to fight Tyranids

craggy maple
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Lets fight the orks

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^(.-.)^

frosty herald
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I think the dumbest but most logical question zola wants to ask the twins is why high born nobles turn traitor

hollow leaf
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I want there to be a team stealth game a la Ghost Recon Wildlands that has you sneaking around a planet with combat outposts and stuff like that... but you're an Ork Kommando with a player team of other Kommandoz. You'd have to stealth on Imperium, Eldar, Tau, Chaos, and even other Orkz.

blazing fossil
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?

mental coral
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So what happens if she isn’t allowed to return

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Like canonically

hollow leaf
mental coral
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Does she just become janitor?

frosty herald
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We wont see her as a mission giver

blazing fossil
fleet zealot
frosty herald
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Or she goes into hiding and communicates with us behind the mourningstars back

fleet zealot
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also, the person at the end was most certainly a dreg, most likely sorceror

lone pecan
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Hey kindred, do I use the left one with 25% maniac and flak perks or continue to use the one on the right? Basically is savage sweep 3 better than wrath 4?

frosty herald
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Rinda is still alive

open bramble
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using nurgle fart magic

hollow leaf
frosty herald
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And once that news breaks out its hell on earth

fleet zealot
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sigma majoris idk

blazing fossil
frosty herald
fleet zealot
blazing fossil
fleet zealot
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but the GSC cope died when it was a dreg sorceror at the end

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And nids and nurgle don't work together

blazing fossil
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A true beast of Nurgle would give four space marines a challenge

frosty herald
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A genestealer cult by itself could work

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Tertum is a big hive

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And the lower levels are abandoned

mental coral
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Look we kill beasts of nurgle ez

fleet zealot
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doesn't have to be tertium

mental coral
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I think it’s time we fight space marines

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Ez win

fleet zealot
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wouldn't make sense for it to be tertium, it is probably the sister city if anything that would have GSC

frosty herald
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Second hive city needs more explenation

open bramble
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a staple of 40k is turning planets into like a clusterfuck battle between 6 different factions

fleet zealot
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well yea

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we still need to do spireside and underhive

jagged turret
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Anyone have some cool fits with the Rouge-Trader set for Zealot? 👀

ember yew
strange kestrel
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No that shi sucks

frosty herald
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Maybe we have a high enough clearance from killing the twins we get more dangerous and critical missions

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One thing is clear fatshark wants the twins to be a turning point in the story

random berry
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lmao

frosty herald
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Wether its the second city or dregs we dont know

random berry
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3 zealots, me including.... everyone has hammers.

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it's hammer time.

mental coral
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Btw is there no one above Wolfer

open bramble
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ur mom

strange kestrel
frosty herald
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Wolfer is the defacto leader of the scabs

mental coral
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Cuz in the opening cinematic or wte isn’t there that whole scene where Wolfer is kneeling to one of the dreg nurgle lovers

lone pecan
frosty herald
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He kneeled infront of the twins

ember yew
open bramble
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I wish my character could get arms as big as wolfer's

mental coral
open bramble
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That dude is so ripped

frosty herald
lone pecan
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Thank you two @ember yew @strange kestrel

frosty herald
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Dont forget that theyre nobles and wolfer has been conditioned to show respect to them

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Even if theyre just loutenants

valid mesa
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what's the difference between thunderhammers?

open bramble
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wolfer clearly lifts

frosty herald
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Wolfer is ripped asf

fleet zealot
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fucking voldemort lookign mofo

ember yew
fleet zealot
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it's like that AI lifting harry potter tiktok

mental coral
fleet zealot
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that looks like a dreg shotgunner

frosty herald
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Probably the placeholder leader for the cult of admonition

fleet zealot
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yee and i dont think that is wofler, just a generic captain but then again

dense field
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he's JACKED

fleet zealot
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the organization of the moebian 6th is fucked

open bramble
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A dreg shotgunner is behind everything lol

frosty herald
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The skull mask

fleet zealot
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why 2 different ranks of captain

dense field
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I should do nurgle drugs

frosty herald
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Captain and loutenants

dapper topaz
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How much corpse starch do you need to eat for gains like that?

ember yew
heavy arch
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i just watched a zealot 1v1 a bulwark by slamming his wep repeatedly into his shield

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melee or range

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and then the dude eventually just ran from the bulwark

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this is auric

heavy arch
strange kestrel
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Kantrael shotgun is the solution

dense field
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Bulwarks are like kryptonite to some zealots

ember yew
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Crusher is for people like that guy

heavy arch
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theres no excuse

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it isnt kryptonite

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everyones got answers to bulwarks people just show up to auric not knowing how the game works it's annoying af tbh

strange kestrel
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True

fading vale
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it's like people dying in melee to 2 bruisers

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"bro you gotta protect the vets and psykers"

mental coral
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“Stop splitting up” or “stop running ahead” is a classic

craggy maple
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lol

native cargo
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I got my answer to bulwark and its to wildly swing at it, realize its a bulwark, change tactics, finally get net by a trapper

ember yew
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like

fading vale
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I'm protecting our back line by fighting poxwalkers for 5 minutes ok

ember yew
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body to body

native cargo
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The final part is important

ember yew
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feel the sweat of each other

heavy arch
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why dont they ever stick to me

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fucking keep up!!!!!!

frosty herald
craggy maple
fading vale
craggy maple
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lol

dapper topaz
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Basic concept to be sure... but if you're in the back push up and if you're in the front cover the back.

craggy maple
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Audio cues are really important in darktide

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playing without sound is fekking annoying

strange kestrel
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Its unplayable

native cargo
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I had a singular player ask me why I'm flailing away at a bunch of a mob shooters when there are specials up in their grill. I just kinda responded with a ":3" because I didn't feel like explaining one of the tasks a zealot has daily

craggy maple
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I assume most pubs are deaf and that's why they keep getting rekt

strange kestrel
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Some games cant be played without sound

native cargo
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Literally in a pretty big room so I prioritized the shooters

craggy maple
native cargo
dense field
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just kill them

craggy maple
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or practically any staff

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or ogryn

dense field
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or any ogryn

craggy maple
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or literally anything vet has access to

native cargo
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I know its cool and honorable to get into melee combat with a rager, but they don't get staggered unless the stars align so shoot them

craggy maple
fading vale
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umm that's not my role, I'm melee only

drifting wolf
craggy maple
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Purgatus LMB can juggle them around so easily

native cargo
dense field
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It's impressive how they can just facetank a half-dozen ragers

craggy maple
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and pretty much any grenade

native cargo
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I don't even aim at the head I just aim in the general direction

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its fucking wild

craggy maple
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aye

heavy arch
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kant is bae

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a thinking zealots weapon

fading vale
craggy maple
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I've been melee only fighting ragers to practice my melee defense

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but that's usually when I know I won't get rekt horribly if I screw up

native cargo
native cargo
dense field
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I've grown to like throwing knives

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They revealed that I've lost some dodge muscle memory

drifting wolf
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they're a necessary evil so that i can have all the nodes i want in my build

open bramble
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I think throwing knives have turned out to be pretty decent

patent zinc
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Showed up on requisition, 80% damage...

open bramble
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People have discovered some cool tricks with them

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I'd rather have nades, but yah

dense field
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I kinda just stare blankly at the trappers instead of dodging because I'm too used to snap shooting them with a revolver

native cargo
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I've been playing re4 remake lately so I keep trying to do the leon kick after shooting a special in the head fatbrick

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(I'm actually just coping that I can't leon kick in DT)

dense field
patent zinc
delicate shadow
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been playing RoN, one of the new maps just casually dunked me down to 15 fps

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love getting into firefights at powerpoint presentation speeds

drifting wolf
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mobility modifier takes yet another victim

open bramble
olive raven
olive raven
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I’ve never played a modern game that fucks my frames that much

native cargo
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Not horrid but this game do be needing some optimization or smth ig

delicate shadow
dense field
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It's in a much better state than it was a year ago

faint mountain
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hmmmm\

open bramble
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I made the mistake of getting an amd card, and while the performance is okay, darktide still gives me gpu crashes way more than I'd like

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I think it's just a quality of the stingray engine

faint mountain
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not bad at all

mental coral
fading vale
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what is RoN

mental coral
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I wish they kept the free play mode tbh. I don’t want to sit there and care about the mental state of my cops n all that

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Wait

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I’m stupid

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Wait

fading vale
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oh ready or not

mental coral
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Ready or not

proud minnow
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is there a weapon with a scope

mental coral
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Or risk of rain

proud minnow
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having a hard time dealing with snipers

mental coral
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Wait no

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It’s Ron

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With an N

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… I’m just going back to bed

open bramble
olive raven
fading vale
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yeah rise of nations was what popped up on Google lol

open bramble
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It's just darktide that does it

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It did it to my 6900xt as well

olive raven
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Turn off certain shit like ray tracing, etc if that’s on

open bramble
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I did

olive raven
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It’s not needed for Darktide

delicate shadow
open bramble
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I've done every conceivable thing

olive raven
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🤷‍♀️

mental coral
olive raven
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Not a card issue cause a 7900XT is good

open bramble
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I'm not saying the card is bad

mental coral
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They changed riot shield so that your shield visor can get damaged

open bramble
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It's great with every game

mental coral
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And holy shit it’s like one gunfight and I’m blind

open bramble
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I just get gpu timeouts with darktide periodically

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And other people have the issue, too

mental coral
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Darktide optimization is weird

native cargo
delicate shadow
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like the AI being jacked doesn't bother me too much these days but I had my guys get fucking stuck and unable to path midway through Brisa Cove and that was just stupid (beat the map but it's just such stupid jank)

native cargo
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Beautiful game

mental coral
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Running a 6800 wte and I still get like sub 30 frames without DLSS

open bramble
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Oh, I guess I said, "I made the mistake of ..."

olive raven
mental coral
open bramble
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That's just because darktide is the game I play the most

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If that wasn't the case, I'd be perfectly happy with the card

mental coral
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But yeah I wish they atleast added an option to just run missions without having to care about cops

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And their mental health

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And “omg what happens if they die on duty”

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Like I just wanna play the game

delicate shadow
native cargo
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I bet we get fps drops irl

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when we do gunfights

olive raven
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Tbh ready or not is more a reaction and slower game

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If you just slow down it makes it easier

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Unfortunately

delicate shadow
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I can fuckin' prep to breach a room and suddenly they're shooting eachother through the walls and there's nothing actually left inside to clear

delicate shadow
olive raven
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Game is honestly easier without the AI team

delicate shadow
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but you miss out on their traits or w/e but you really can just ignore it

open bramble
delicate shadow
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and I am not fuckin' pubbing that shit

mental coral
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I s ranked gas station solo

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Didn’t do any non lethal bullshit tho

native cargo
mental coral
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My 5-7 with AP rounds just overpenned and all the suspects happened to stay alive

native cargo
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Its the big jumpscare getting em

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Good on you incan

delicate shadow
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I'm glad they added the F90 to the game at least, and the MCX

mental coral
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KEKW_ogryn honestly tho i don’t think I’ve ever had an instance where taking AP rounds was a bad idea

patent zinc
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What do you all think of this thunderhammer?

mental coral
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Like the overpen was never an issue

open bramble
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First target is a bit too low

delicate shadow
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AP rounds are just flatout better, you really have zero reason to give a shit about overpen

mental coral
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Better against armor, and if they aren’t armoured they have a higher chance to live cuz of over pen I’m psure

olive raven
native cargo
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I want the devs to add some of the whackier tactics used by agents/police in RoN. Like the time the ATF played animal noises at Waco to try and demoralize the people inside the compound

shy river
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is revolver pretty much a hard req if I bring devil claw, I feel like it is

delicate shadow
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worst case scenario with overpen is a suspect survives and that's just...more score

native cargo
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That'd be lit af

olive raven
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And that was somehow hitting a collat on a civ

delicate shadow
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tbh my main issue with RoN is that it is still very janky/buggy and has giga performance issues

olive raven
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Like ron once you optimize it

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Will be great

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Cuz there’s hundreds of mods for cool shit already

delicate shadow
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still feels early access af

olive raven
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Like i can just whip out a sniper rifle with mods 💀

mental coral
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My friend was complaining about how every suspect from random gas station robbers to streamers fight to the death without flashes or wte

open echo
mental coral
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Which ig is true I don’t think I’ve seen many suspects just surrender

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The moment they get a whiff of your presence they just spray the shit out of your general direction

delicate shadow
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yeah the enemy AI isn't very realistic at all but that said none of the game really is

ornate bone
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merry christmas

native cargo
ornate bone
delicate shadow
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like the Rules of Engagement still make zero sense, the squad size of like 5 dudes with one entry point and zero support is obviously not realistic even vaguely

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so it's not a simulator or w/e the fuck people cope about it with whatsoever

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it's a janky modern swat 4 homage and that's it

celest basin
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Which headhunter mark is one shot dmr?

mental coral
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Mk 7 I’m psure?

open bramble
fleet zealot
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vraks 7

celest basin
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Thx :)

ornate bone
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I still remember this one time in SWAT 3, when I was a bloody wee lad

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A fookin tiny mahn

open bramble
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So it's a janky buggy game that runs poorly that is intended to be realistic but isn't at all

mental coral
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At one point RoN could he played with 8 people iirc

native cargo
mental coral
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But then they changed it to 5

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Which always felt weird

native cargo
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Idk too much about RoN

ornate bone
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And I missed the shot on a guy and he dropped the weapon anyway

native cargo
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I just know its a swat 4 successor

delicate shadow
balmy kelp
open echo
ornate bone
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real

open bramble
native cargo
mental coral
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The armor is uh

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I’m not sure

balmy kelp
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Yeah, was a tester and balance tester (and technically officially a designer, but I really didn't do a ton of design work)

mental coral
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Cuz I used to run steel armor which is like

ornate bone
mental coral
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Cool but apparently ceramic is just better?

ornate bone
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6 players was a bit much, 4 was too little

delicate shadow
strange kestrel
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No way you worked on rise of nations

mental coral
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According to in game description steel reduces damage but ceramic just completely nullifies it

ornate bone
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I think the player count has to be such that you don't have full control, but aren't obviously at a disadvantage

celest basin
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Darktide is more stuttery on newest amd drivers - 23.12.1. Tested on 7800xt and 7900xt, so I installed previous drivers

ornate bone
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Limiting player count to me is like limiting ammo drops or save points or whatever

craggy maple
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Darktide loading times are way too long to reach a large audience

ornate bone
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You can't go too far without making the game bad to play, but you need to hold the player just a little past the edge of the cliff, reminding them you're the one holding the collar of their shirt right now

craggy maple
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and match times are too long for casual audiences.

open bramble
craggy maple
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Literally need ~20-30 minutes per run

prisma sigil
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Someone has never heard of left 4 dead 2

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Where a match would take about an hour and there was a loading screen about 4 times during it between safe rooms

celest basin
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There is mod called darkcache but I don’t know if it’s working and if you can really see a difference in load times

ornate bone
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Because apparently arm armor did nothing or something like that

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Or was it side? Whatever, one of those

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So the thing was to just get as much defense as possible without compromising the movement acceleration

proud minnow
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just got this bad boy

ornate bone
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I remember playing a match in the heaviest gear and it felt so fucking shit

craggy maple
prisma sigil
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Nobody plays just ONE level

balmy kelp
ornate bone
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Each time you wanted to react to a suspect by moving out of the way, you were first asking permission from the government

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By the time the president greenlight you holding A or D on your keyboard, you were already dead

ornate bone
proud minnow
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i was thinking reload speed and 5% crit chance

open bramble
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If you're levelling, I wouldn't worry about that

balmy kelp
proud minnow
open bramble
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If you're leveling, save your crafting mats, if you're max level save your crafting mats for a better gun

proud minnow
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i hit like 2k DPS with the spam

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how many crafting mats should i have?

dense field
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All of them

proud minnow
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i've just been dumping them into theorycrafting funny guns

dense field
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Don't spend at all

proud minnow
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shuddup

dense field
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never

balmy kelp
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Bolter's ammo efficiency isn't crazy, so you kinda have to be choosey about what targets you use it against

mental coral
proud minnow
ornate bone
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Knife chadgryn

balmy kelp
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Well Bolter will hit them, but the sights are bad. (Though if you're on console I dunno what to tell ya. No clue how anyone's effective on controller. Most (80%) aren't, but a few are strangely awesome at it.)

proud minnow
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i'm a 150m beamer

open bramble
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I think the aim assist on console is fairly insane

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If you're on controller

balmy kelp
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Beamer to me is just a pistol from Planetside 2, so /shrug

hallow hatch
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anyone got a build for hm twins

shy river
desert coral
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this knife is beyond good its straight broken if anyone has yet to try

zealous basin
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he had precog KEKsplode

craggy maple
open bramble
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i wish you could put triple bleed on knife

zealous basin
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why stop at triple

open bramble
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i'm thinking small

open bramble
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you're right

craggy maple
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To stab the heretics ('-')

zealous basin
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its that time of day bud

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we talkin

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FLESH TEARER LACERATE

craggy maple
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indeed

frozen ibex
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It's good. whatthefuck_heresy

zealous basin
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good at laceratin

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good at tearin flesh

craggy maple
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Just need to replace lacerate on my knife

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with...mercy killer/ joke

desert coral
craggy maple
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Lacerate is kinda meh because it relies on you missing your target to proc

desert coral
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the lacerate flesh tear combo lets you kill every single thing in the game by yourself

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with a couple attacks and they die

zealous basin
frozen ibex
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It's true just aim for bodyshot.

fleet zealot
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lacerate flesh tearer pleases my wife

gilded coral
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what kinds of melee weapons are best for a shroud builds aside from knife?

fleet zealot
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thunderhammer

zealous basin
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well the funny part is that knife is probably the worst melee for stealth

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so

fleet zealot
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^

craggy maple
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Knife is amazing because it gives you ridiculous mobility

native stump
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any recommendations pilgrims?

fleet zealot
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thunderhammer is the best stealth weapon, knfie does better with chorus or chastise imo

open bramble
zealous basin
lean lark
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thammer is not the best stealth weapon

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rashad exists

fleet zealot
desert coral
craggy maple
zealous basin
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every weapon has great mobility if u just slide

craggy maple
zealous basin
lean lark
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thats

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wrong

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you still need to slide

desert coral
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: P

craggy maple
zealous basin
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me when the scoreboard hits

fleet zealot
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lacerate flesh tearer is the best cause it helps me kill crushers

north sedge
craggy maple
craggy maple
desert coral
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I really enjoy the knew knife heavies I dont prefer only left click weapons anymore really I like being able to change attack patterns its more fun for me

fleet zealot
craggy maple
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d('-')

zealous basin
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why would i stab crusher in face

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doesnt trigger lacerate...

craggy maple
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Moar Iron for the Golden Throne \o/

craggy maple
north sedge
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Means when you dodge gunfire by running at an angle you no longer start getting shot when hitting 0 stam

ornate bone
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walk to burster with full stamina
push
hitmarker
he jumps

craggy maple
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^Zealot in action.

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For the God-Emperah

brazen linden
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how important is the penetration stat?

royal vortex
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very

native stump
brazen linden
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and the mobility stat?

zealous basin
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well

royal vortex
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not very important

zealous basin
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mobility is ideal dump stat but having 3 dodges is scuffed

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so you need it at like 51/52 or some shit

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or rather want it at that

balmy kelp
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Lack of penetration probably only changes breakpoints on mauler/crusher/monstrosity type enemies, I'd imagine? The first one seems great, honestly.

zealous basin
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crushers maulers very important targets

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especially with that weapon

brazen linden
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whats the breakpoint tho

zealous basin
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fuckin idk

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fuck new evi

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🦀

balmy kelp
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Sure but you're not running that weapon for its mauler/crusher killing, so it's weird to obsess over that imo

zealous basin
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whu

desert coral
zealous basin
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you are definitely bringing XV for its mauler/crusher killing

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bwuh?

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thats like its main thing?

balmy kelp
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Fair point, I actually don't know a ton about the XV in particular

zealous basin
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normal evi is also still going to be prioritizing breakpoints around the same thing

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crushers are less important

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like who is out here optimizing melee weapons for shitter hordes

native stump
balmy kelp
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People running builds where the rest of their kit handles non-horde enemies, clearly.

native stump
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just need to know if the perks are good or if i should swap one out

balmy kelp
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Or people who know elites are easy to handle when the horde is deleted around them

zealous basin
desert coral
craggy maple
zealous basin
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dude what am i reading today

craggy maple
native stump
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would it best to remove cara for flak or remove unyielding to flak/maniac?

craggy maple
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Unless you have some sort of translation app or something going.

zealous basin
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cara/unyielding is probably fine but if u want to drop one go for unyielding/flak

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imo

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unyielding is juicy

native stump
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it is

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especially for those dh

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hmm... maybe i'll keep my perks for now

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cuz last thing i need is 6 crushers to spawn out of thin air

desert coral
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dont change for maniac

native stump
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which has happened more than once

desert coral
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the evis already kills them

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without it i believe

zealous basin
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maniac is still nice for unrevved hits

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but id rather have unyielding

desert coral
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oh ok i agree

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maniac is slowly fading away from my melee weapons

native stump
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also, as a gameplay mechanic, since the ai director likes to spawn rando heretics out of thin air, why doesnt fatshark just add a sort of warp effect where they teleport/spawn in?

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since the beast of nurgle is roaming around and is a sign of warp incurison

zealous basin
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heretics deep striking in via warp storm would have severe lore implications

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mm thats true

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idk

craggy maple
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also that's some weapons grade heresy

zealous basin
#

do u guys remember invis patrols in vt2

#

did i hallucinate that

#

that was real right

craggy maple
#

That was just advanced Skaven stealth tech. Yes-yes.

#

Warp rat agrees.

native cargo
#

reading up now cus I was typing something else hold up

#

Yes its stealth tech

ember yew
native cargo
#

I refuse to have constant warp nonsense in my ears

#

24/7

ember yew
#

i remember teleporting patrols

native cargo
#

Its bad enough when I gotta fucking go to the warp just for some taco bell or smth

#

The local drukari needing their tacos n shit

sharp zodiac
#

Bathing a plogryn gone wrong

#

Cops called

zealous basin
#

darktide simply lacks vermintide's charm....

#

"charm"

ember yew
#

30% curse resistance stronk

native cargo
craggy maple
#

You mean we need more Psyker x Zealot shipping?

native cargo
#

It lost its shell so it became angy

zealous basin
#

highly recommended you do NOT

craggy maple
#

oh my

delicate horizon
#

salvageable? good enough?

craggy maple
#

too late

#

oh noes

delicate horizon
sharp zodiac
#

Do it it'll be funny

zealous basin
#

"funny"

craggy maple
#

Now I'm doomed, where's the HEAVY FLAMER? Dx

zealous basin
#

i remember telling all my friends early in darktide that the flamethrowers were gonna be dogshit

craggy maple
native cargo
#

The hell did I just curse my eyes with

zealous basin
#

alright now go to image and turn safesearch off

#

oh

#

oh yeah

native cargo
#

I'd rather see them naked than this

#

I am

craggy maple
native cargo
#

terrified of romance

zealous basin
craggy maple
native cargo
#

I just had to type in the p word flip and bam

#

The flood gates were open

sharp zodiac
native cargo
#

I was too distracted by the words

#

to notice that

zealous basin
craggy maple
#

I mean, if that's what the God-Emperor wills. (.-.)

native cargo
craggy maple
#

So....new soundbar should be arriving today.

#

Should be nice with darktide, since it should be more directional.

native cargo
#

Direct it at your ear drums so you can feel the reality of war really set in

zealous basin
dim yew
#

What should I change on my next hammer project? I feel thunderstrike is a bit meh

zealous basin
#

slaughterer or headtaker

#

instead of thunderstrike

#

crit damage perk is also garbage

#

think hammer wants... flak rn? for some reason?

olive raven
#

^

dim yew
ornate bone
#

holy shit guys did you know you can wear psyker armor on zealot

north sedge
#

Crit hit dmg math is dooky

open bramble
#

Yeah, I was gonna say

#

It's way smaller than that lol

north sedge
#

It's 10% of the bonus dmg only, not overall

dim yew
#

oh

ornate bone
#

I just found out if you press alt-f4 right as you get downed, the game has a chance of thinking you're actually a different class on the cosmetics

hushed agate
#

That's strange

#

Is it a mod? Im on xbox idk if youre being serious or not

sullen grotto
#

What should I do with this laspistol?

icy creek
olive raven
dim yew
faint mountain
#

we did it

haughty minnow
#

look that that big handsome fella

zealous basin
#

thingy

#

little guy

#

thing shaped

native stump
#

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

river condor
next egret
#

Thoughts on eviscerator?

native stump
#

damn

faint mountain
river condor
#

Hella yeaaaaaaaah

native stump
#

how bad would this build be?

ornate bone
#

I would describe it as "mad wacky"

#

And ask what sort of substances you inhaled

next egret
native stump
#

hmm...

#

time to test it out on damnation then

ornate bone
#

I take it you have a crit weapon at least?

faint mountain
# next egret Thoughts on eviscerator?

The three you want to max out are Damage, Penetration, and Shredder, Depending on your set up you want Shred/Rampage or Bloodthirsty/Rampage and Flak/Manic/Carapace/Critical Damage

#

Cleave is a dump stat

#

it doest change very much with its leveling

olive raven
north sedge
#

1 + 1 = 11

next egret
faint mountain
#

good on

#

for doing the twins i would do crit damage and flak to clear the shield out

olive raven
#

You don’t want crit damage as a perk

north sedge
#

😬

zealous basin
#

crit damage StareClueless

olive raven
#

Like we just explained this

ornate bone
#

crit damago no eres buenito

olive raven
#

🫠

#

Crit damage only applies to the bonus damage

#

Not total

#

So if you dealt 200 extra damage that’s only 20 extra

#

Pretty horrible

#

Versus Flak/Maniac granting say

#

Say total damage was 500

#

You’d deal fuckin uh

#

125 extra

faint mountain
#

In that case I would do flak/carapace for twins as that is what they are mostly armored in

olive raven
#

If my mental math ain’t wrong

#

And don’t build weapons specifically for twins…

#

You don’t need to

#

Just build a good general weapon, it will work

faint mountain
#

My other thing i am not sure about is shred vs bloodthirsty

olive raven
#

Shred is better generally

#

As if you are running a crit build

#

You want that crit chance all the time, not just once after a special

#

And zealot ult already guarantees a crit (shroud and chastise)

north sedge
#

bloodthirsty is fine on mk15, if a bit awkward for getting rid of crushers in a row

olive raven
#

Yea it is fine not my style is all

proud minnow
#

is this the meta?

lean lark
#

no

#

god

#

people look at that build and think its the meta because its the first thing that pops out

#

with big glowing "meta zealot" on it

north sedge
#

the hsword at least is done right, well one of the good versions of it

faint mountain
#

no heavy las pistol is true meta

lean lark
#

if its actual meta it'd be headtaker deathblow

#

and the mk6

faint mountain
#

look at this beauty

open echo
#

also i struggle to see how the shredder is good

olive raven
#

Talent tree can be edited slightly to your preference

#

And idk if one of the bolter blessings can switched nowadays to something better, @lean lark correct me if im wrong there

lean lark
#

i'd switch more things in that to make it better

open echo
#

eh

olive raven
lean lark
#

bolter is good

#

people just suck dick at it

proud minnow
#

LOVE IT

olive raven
open echo
olive raven
#

Momentum on dodge, 2nd chastise, etc

lean lark
olive raven
#

No no no

lean lark
#

make it bad

delicate shadow
#

imagine not being a tknife chad smh

olive raven
#

The bolter only comes out

lean lark
olive raven
#

Against

lean lark
#

this is the real zealot meta

#

the other build would be a rashad with kant and almost the same talents

olive raven
#

Crushers, bosses or bulwarks

#

That’s the only time

open echo
lean lark
#

because those are the two "meta"

olive raven
#

Heavy sword is weak against carapace and bosses

#

Bolter fills that gap

proud minnow
olive raven
#

It’s a well rounded build

olive raven
#

Chorus is good for support

open echo
olive raven
#

Skill issue.

#

Straight up

lean lark
#

for dh yeah it is hard but

#

when the fuck will you fight a dh

#

as a thammer-less zealot

olive raven
#

When a fuckwad teammate activates it

lean lark
#

just run away and make the dh aggro someone else

olive raven
#

But even then

open echo
olive raven
#

DH are not absurdly hard to beat

open echo
#

ye

olive raven
#

It’s just keep running back and hitting it

#

but yea Dawn and i differ on fuckin

#

Momentum on Dodge, Faithful Frenzy and EWEW

#

and swift certainly

#

both builds work well

open echo
#

i just struggle to enjoy bolter lol

proud minnow
digital yacht
azure mortar
#

If this is the logic prevalent here I understand better the quality of my teamates then

open echo
#

mabye with /cara or unyielding if your only using it for that

#

idk if that helps

lean lark
#

it'd be more ammo efficient but bolter doesnt need chastise to kill crushers

delicate shadow
#

well it depends on if you wanna have to chastise for carapace damage or not

lean lark
#
  • if there are more than 4 crushers you just immo at the floor and then chastise magdump them
proud minnow
# lean lark

nice, the dodge recoil is super nuts on the bolter

zinc talon
#

I swear by my bolter

#

that and the flamer are the only two weapons you need

digital yacht
#

The new revolver can one clip the crusher by the time the bolter reloads.

zinc talon
#

honorable mention to laspistol

#

flowers on the tomb of the shreddder

#

yes, but the bolter has three times the ammo capacity

#

and penetrates

#

and explodes for aoe damage on kill

ornate bone
#

A question for the truest of gamers

zinc talon
#

plus blessings that make sense and drastically change its behavior for the better

ornate bone
#

Do friendly ogryns have more mass than other players?

zinc talon
#

no

#

they're just bigger

ornate bone
#

Based

open echo
zinc talon
#

crusher

#

bolter

#

bible thump

open echo
zinc talon
#

advance

#

oh without a doubt the bolter then

olive raven
zinc talon
#

for long range laser beam accurate one or two tap kills

#

guaranteed one tap jostle or ragdoll

#

bolter, no question

shy hull
#

I have no idea if that's good or not, but i think it might just be

zinc talon
#

there's also the added trick of if you really get in the shit and the chips are down

#

and tenths of seconds are how much time you have

#

you can aim at your feet and magdump

#

and get yourself ten seconds of total cc including recovery time

digital yacht
zinc talon
#

and, you can trigger discipline double tap your feet as you move

lean lark
zinc talon
#

to keep distance

open echo
lean lark
#

you slide towards them and then dash them

zinc talon
#

the bolter can be clunky and slow to bring to bear, and evne slower to finally get its braced fire behavior into your unconscious muscle memory

open echo
lean lark
#

the fuck do you mean no way

#

thats what zealot is good at

#

dashing ahead and killing every major threat

zinc talon
#

there is no better weapon than the bolter in as many categories as you can think of

#

damage output, burst damage, damage per-shot, shots to kill

#

accuracy

#

room clear

digital yacht
zinc talon
#

stagger

#

satisfaction

open echo
zinc talon
#

quality of life while using

#

loyalty to james workshop

#

and empra

shy hull
azure mortar
#

you have stockholm syndrom if you say using the bolter is quality of life

zinc talon
#

you shouldn't even have any other ranged weapons besides the bolter flamer and laspistols

#

yeah I said it

lean lark
#

you use the very obscure technique that is actually using cover to get to them

azure mortar
#

when you need 3 hours and book an appoitement to use it

olive raven
digital yacht
ornate bone
#

The Omnissiah has provided a nightstick

lean lark
#

consider that for a change

digital yacht
zinc talon
#

are you talking about how quick it is to bring to bear, or what

ornate bone
#

Are there bears in 40K?

zinc talon
#

yeah, me

olive raven
north sedge
#

im not wild about bolter on zealot but i dont think it's awful either, that said there's so many options for ranged beyond bolter/flamer

zinc talon
azure mortar
olive raven
#

Tbh literally everyone has gone “oh bolter bad” for so fucking long no one can objectively look at it

#

As being good

desert vessel
#

I'd use bolter all the time on vet and zealot if it only had faster draw times

azure mortar
#

it's not quality of life, it's strong but it's not easy to use, therefore not QOL

zinc talon
#

okay shaddup lemme blow yalls minds a sec

north sedge
#

i like it alot more on vet though i dont play it very much

delicate shadow
#

the only valid ranged weapon is agri brauto

zinc talon
#

the reason people have such a tough time navigating the learning curve on the bolter relative to dumb CoD guns

#

is that the gun

digital yacht
zinc talon
#

in your hands

olive raven
#

The only valid ranged weapon is another melee.

zinc talon
#

is not a static 2d picture for your enjoyment

zinc talon
#

like in other games

#

the gun is there

desert vessel
zinc talon
#

and when fired

north sedge
#

is that the bolter is best played dmr style right now and zealot lacks the supression immunity and sway reduction that vet has

zinc talon
#

it moves in all 3 dimensiuons

azure mortar
#

I'm not saying you can't enjoy the gun, i'm critizing your choice of word for it

zinc talon
#

up down left right and back forth, plus rotation

#

where the bolter is, in space, at that moment

#

is where the next round will gpo

olive raven
#

It is objectively good, heavy sword fills the gaps where it is weak

delicate shadow
#

(all the guns in DT have recoil)

lean lark
olive raven
#

Fun times using our brains here

lean lark
#

its all overexaggerations and understatements here

olive raven
#

Like yea long draw time

zinc talon
digital yacht
olive raven
#

But you can actually kill a boss quickly with it

desert vessel
#

I'm find with the bolters reload speed and everything else, it's just the absurd draw time is too much

native cargo
zinc talon
#

the gun bucks vertically a lot more than just about everything except rippers

#

but that is quick to return to neutral

#

what is slow to return to neutral

zealous basin
#

3 dimensional recoil holy

zinc talon
#

is lateral left right, and left/right rotation

olive raven
#

It literally would shorten a run but go off

zinc talon
#

so by looking at your gun, in your hands, shouldered right after you fired it

#

you can actually see which way the recoil moved the gun on all 3 axes

#

and because the bolter is so laser beam accurate

digital yacht
zinc talon
#

if you can do the math on where your gun is sitting caddywompus relative to center

desert vessel
#

More like watching the Kojima cinematic as it slowly comes into your hands KEKW_ogryn

languid canyon
#

does Inexorable Judge not proc on hammer 1 shots anymore?

zinc talon
#

you can readjust your aim and fire again, well before the gun's settled down

lean lark
#

if you're bad at the game that's nothing but your issue which doesn't mean you get to say something is objectively bad

languid canyon
#

it seems inconsistent as hell

open echo
#

anyone have a clue what the name of the mod that allows you to recolour cosmetics is?

lean lark
#

for the drip

#

modding discord

open echo
north sedge
languid canyon
#

mmm ok

native cargo
frosty herald
#

Silly fishe

languid canyon
olive raven
zinc talon
rough vault
heavy arch
#

only noobs take dodge perk in mordhau

rough vault
#

Just block

north sedge
heavy arch
#

avoiding enemy attacks is either footwork or matrixing

zealous basin
#

oh i misread it

#

nvm

#

ow jesus christ my ears

#

upon clicking that video

native cargo
#

Its overly peaceful ik

#

The peace of the ocean inb4 tragedy strikes

zinc talon
zealous basin
#

fish are so silly :3

#

:p

drifting wolf
#

very efficient

olive raven
#

Never block, use push.

#

Only block on bosses

desert vessel
#

Aren't they talking about mordhau

rough vault
olive raven
#

Dnc

rough vault
#

Fair

drifting wolf
#

born to block forced to push

fleet zealot
zinc talon
#

for those of you who weren't aware

#

when things are hectic

#

and you're forced to put your guard up

#

and they break through your stamina

desert vessel
#

Use immolation grenade?

zinc talon
#

that is not the end, of your block

#

what happens is they knock away your weapon

#

you do a special lil animation

#

and then blocking becomes a quick time event

#

even at 0% stamina

zinc talon
#

if you can time your right click to right before they land the hit

#

you can keep blocking indefinitely provided you have the time to get your guard back in place

#

0% stamina the whole time

lean lark
#

that's called stamina regeneration delay

#

and stamina regen

#

not "quick time event"

native cargo
ripe quest
#

Just don't get hit

zinc talon
#

it's a quick time event in the sense that you can no longer just hold right click

ripe quest
#

avg 10 attacks blocked per mission gang

zinc talon
#

your block is shattered

native cargo
#

I hear Lethal Company is hiring and they pay pretty well

zinc talon
#

you have to re-right-click before the next hit lands

#

and if you do

#

even at 0% stamina

zinc talon
#

you'll block one more attack

#

and if you get your block back up before the next

#

even at 0% stamina

#

yep that's right

#

look at you gettin the answer right proud of ya

ripe quest
#

if you hold block you block

olive raven
ripe quest
olive raven
#

Unless it’s monster maelstrom

#

You should not block much

fleet zealot
olive raven
#

Dodging and Pushing > Blocking

ripe quest
#

It might also be skewed by the fact that most of the weapons I run are mobile lol

#

The only reason right click exists on knife is for the PA pixelpepe

lean lark
#

i have like 50 attacks blocked at the end of every game

#

because im cursed to be attacked behind while sliding

#

so i almost always have to do a flick and block the attack before continuing up ahead

zinc talon
ripe quest
#

I usually get some attacks blocked when I am trying to PA and something hits me during it

fleet zealot
#

you can block 360

#

it just takes more stamina

azure mortar
native cargo
#

Sometimes I accidentally block an attack and leave the match

#

I can't have that shiz

native cargo
ripe quest
lean lark
#

mainly because the 10 melee grunts that were hopping along with the flak rager want revenge after i swooped in and killed their boss in under a second

#

and i move onto the next on-sight elite

zinc talon
mossy lodge
#

Guys for the tygrus mk II heavy evi what mods should i look for?

zinc talon
#

rampage, savage sweep, wrath, shred, bloodthirsty

craggy maple
# zinc talon

Oof, very inefficient playstyle. Blocks are too high

#

You should be more like Gorp, no need to block. Just kill.

mossy lodge
zinc talon
#

flak, unarmored, elites

craggy maple
#

Has 4.5k staggers, only had to block 6 attacks he's being much more aggressive and efficient than you with his stamina.

zinc talon
#

sir I'm the tank

fleet zealot
frozen glen
#

shredder to an extent

craggy maple
modest quiver
#

matchmaking lobby just got even better..

fleet zealot
#

or a baneblade

craggy maple
#

It'll stay with you until you restart/change operative

mossy lodge
frozen glen
#

yea that's good

modest quiver
#

wouldn't have guessed that

craggy maple
#

it's not going to stick with you indefinately. I did like 6 rounds with it

modest quiver
#

haha i'm queuing for Twins damnation hard xD Kinda wanna see who I'm getting before going in!

maiden path
blazing fossil
#

im rich

fleet zealot
ornate bone
#

Hmm

#

Today I will play VOC iron will vet

zinc talon
modest quiver
#

Now I'm done with the crafting gambling system, time to play the Karnak Twins hard mode competent team mates gambling game 😄

zinc talon
#

you'll improve your chances packing bible thump and corruption eater

#

and a new eviscerator with rev it up and bloodthirsty, flak and carapace

modest quiver
#

Yeah got those 🙂

zinc talon
#

and ofc the bolter

#

atsa lad

#

av at it

modest quiver
#

although I'm running something else for the blessings

#

rampage and shred iirc

#

both IV

zinc talon
#

rev it up can be clicked on and off

#

so it'll guarantee you make it across the room in time

#

bible thump also does this for the team if you time it right

modest quiver
#

ah, not having trouble with that 🙂

zinc talon
#

and bloodthirsty lets you rev up and light swing since that's the attack that cleaves

#

so rev, light, rev, light, crit crit crit

#

and you can chamber one of those crits to turn around and nuke a crusher or mauler

#

carapace and flak cuz that's what they're wearing obviously

#

cleave is the surprise safe dump stat with that weapon variant too

#

but yall gonna get mad and yell before you see the truth of it

craggy maple
zinc talon
#

so you can bring a max mobility mk XV

#

to a timed sprint fight

#

take rev it up in addition, and you can outrun everything but dashy sword lady

#

you can gather up the horde and skedaddle off

#

and keep them away from the team