#zealot-class

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fading vale
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I was not thinking about the eggplant meme

left iron
fading vale
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I was only trying to confuse stan

north sedge
signal prism
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Some people sprinkle sugar on eggplants to counteract the bitterness

south folio
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understandable

north sedge
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Like that time you requested peanut butter cast away

royal vortex
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lmao

north sedge
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And i took it to a unholy level

fading vale
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I mean I knew that would be fucked up but not that fucked up

fiery ingot
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holy shit

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i just had my first clutch in a auric t5

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my hands are shaking man

blazing fossil
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vids or didnt happen

fiery ingot
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i didnt record sadrodeo

fleet zealot
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dont you just have to prep and cook eggplants properly and they won't be bitter

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then again

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i don't like eggplant

fiery ingot
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it was for like 2 to 3 min but it got me stressed out for the rest of the game

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was alone with a mixed horde of ragers 1 crusher and 1 flamer

fading vale
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clutching is fun but like, it's not fun when pubs force you to do it multiple games in a row, it's just pain

fiery ingot
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luckly the flamer melted the ragers and i just finished them off by kiting

hushed knoll
fiery ingot
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oh no im not that good

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usually if the team dies i go with them

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i just barely survived thanks to the talent that makes you immortal when you die

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
fiery ingot
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i probably wouldnt have survived that clutch if i didnt have crusher to stagger the shit out of that horde

left iron
fiery ingot
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things i would never be able to achieve with a rashad

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im happy i converted myself

blazing fossil
fading vale
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most of my longer clutches are running a revolver, kant shotgun, and/or vet teammate having the crate talent

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at least in recent history

fiery ingot
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i love it

sour sierra
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Is scattershot desirable on the kant shotgun?

fading vale
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no

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you can make a meme kant shotty with it

fiery ingot
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but yeah being able to stagger a mixed horde is a lifesaver honestly

fading vale
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but it's not as good as other options

sour sierra
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Fml

fiery ingot
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im never turning my back to crusher

sour sierra
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So full bore+no respite then?

fiery ingot
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i run no respite fire frenzy on mine

fading vale
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or FF/deathspitter instead of full bore

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either 3

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should be fine

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no respite most important

sour sierra
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Heard ff and deathspitter dont apply for alt fire tho

fading vale
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you could get away with scattershot if you have no respite

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they don't

hushed knoll
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Extra toasty cheese India are mid

fading vale
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burn doesn't proc them

hushed knoll
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Regular are the best

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Cheese its

sour sierra
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Does scattershot apply?

muted sonnet
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Kant with Scatter and Flech is the only way

muted sonnet
fading vale
south folio
north sedge
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I also don't care for extra toasty cheese india stan

muted sonnet
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It does if you have Flechette ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

fading vale
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flechette only applies to the first targets the pellets hit so not really

hushed knoll
fading vale
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not that good, but it's memey enough

hushed knoll
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Racist

muted sonnet
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It's a meme yea

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A really fun meme doe

blazing fossil
north sedge
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You're the one who said it stan

muted sonnet
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You can put out crazy burn + bleed damage

fading vale
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no respite is just always gonna be the best unless something changes

north sedge
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Anyway I'm happy that stan got his new phone so he won't typo anymore

fading vale
fiery ingot
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how do people often have recordings of unintentional and random gameplays? does everyone keeps recording their screen the whole time they are playing?

north sedge
fiery ingot
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i really wish i could record that

fading vale
south folio
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i personally record all the time

fiery ingot
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oh

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whats that called?

signal prism
south folio
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i got some spare storage that i yoinked from my brother to keep stuff

fading vale
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uh medal.tv is a popular one, or you can use shadowplay

fiery ingot
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so long as it doesnt affect my game's performance, should be good. i dont want to play on medium-low res because of that

fading vale
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most recording things shouldn't effect performance much anymore, there is dedicated hardware for it now typically

north sedge
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I use josho.exe, he gets all the clips i want because I can't be bothered

left iron
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Have you seen the clown car trait that the scab shooters have?

north sedge
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Always in that spot

fiery ingot
placid fiber
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Gotta love it when a random is saying "you guy suck" and he's one of the 1st to go down during the special assignment on heresy

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during the final boss fight

blazing fossil
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damn noone playing auric rn

placid fiber
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Feels like justice, lol

blazing fossil
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yea thats why I never talk trash, I'll probably do something dumb

fiery ingot
trail grove
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Speaking of something dumb...

trail grove
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Sniper Zealot.

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Like, a Zealot trying to be a Veteran Sharpshooter.

north sedge
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The call of duty zealot, yea

acoustic dune
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why would a zealot use a firearm as their main weapon?

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when they have a knoife

open bramble
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I was gonna answer seriously at first, but

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then you made the ultimate point.

acoustic dune
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and the gun for like pesky sniper and stuff

open bramble
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I was just going to say that the vet. tree actually allows for some reallllllyyy strong melee-oriented builds

acoustic dune
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i mean sure but why

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when the zealy exist

open bramble
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Well, it's a different type of melee. It's typically built around the shout, and I would say it's more of an equal hybrid between melee and shooting

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some people wanna play gun zealot, so it would be cool if the tree allowed for it

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Maybe when we get melta guns (if ever), we'll get nodes that significantly buff flame and melta shit

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That would be keeping with the lore

north sedge
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Momentum buffs melee and ranged, so best we have is balanced, which is fine, i don't think ranged zealot needs to be a thing

north sedge
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Err

acoustic dune
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just dont get one tap

open bramble
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I'm not going to lie, I'd never play a ranged zealot

north sedge
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The whole point of what i said was to say that we have a keystone that buffs everything

open bramble
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I'm only leveling a vet. now, because they have busted melee shout builds

open bramble
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Had no interest in them whey they were CoD man

north sedge
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No it doesn't

acoustic dune
north sedge
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Marty is melee only

acoustic dune
waxen fulcrum
north sedge
acoustic dune
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i wanted to play with the recon gun

waxen fulcrum
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the brown lasgun

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they nerfed recon sadly

acoustic dune
waxen fulcrum
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it used to regen ammo for every crit in a string but now it only regens the first shot

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even if you had multiple crits

acoustic dune
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it was with a hand canon

heavy arch
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one of the smoothest maelstrom runs ive ever been in ruined by 1 barrel after 30 minutes

heavy arch
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someone hit barrel

waxen fulcrum
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every flew and died

heavy arch
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3 ppl die

waxen fulcrum
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probably

heavy arch
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wasnt me!!!!!

acoustic dune
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anyhow

north sedge
acoustic dune
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ill be damn

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guess momentum is the keystone for gun zealy

north sedge
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Its both melee and ranged

hushed knoll
acoustic dune
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do you think zealot own like a body pillow of the emperor

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as a skeleton or prime BIG E

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ointed pillow

blazing fossil
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whatever the fifth class is, should have an aura that makes you immune to barrels

hushed knoll
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What is an ointed pillow

acoustic dune
acoustic dune
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sacred oil

acoustic dune
hushed knoll
lean lark
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body pillows are pillows the length of a human body

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initially made for people who tend to "hug" things during their sleep/to comfort themselves

acoustic dune
lean lark
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now its mostly for

acoustic dune
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GOLLY EMPEROR

lean lark
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sexy anime gir looohh..... ohh man... im sleeping with an anime girl..

acoustic dune
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imagine the emeperor size body pillow

peak grove
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They need to make Multiclassing a thing so I can break the game faster

lean lark
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what

acoustic dune
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big E prob own a body pillow

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somewhere in his castle

left iron
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Hey Stan

hushed knoll
north sedge
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Yes because player power isn't already out of control

left iron
opal sparrow
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Another 1 million damage maelstorm

acoustic dune
lean lark
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yeah

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that sure will fix stuff

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actually just make every enemy an aggro'd demonhost

solar gorge
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No make it so trapper fire 2 nets instead of one

acoustic dune
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all crusher

lean lark
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yeah thats doable

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scab melee only is the clearest example of it

acoustic dune
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or trapper

lean lark
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thats also doable

acoustic dune
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how about bomber

lean lark
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bombers are only a threat when in the distance and a horde or other enemies are near you

frozen glen
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flames are just wafts of warm air

lean lark
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wafts like rinda

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right red

frozen glen
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fuck u brock

acoustic dune
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blessed garlic or some shit

hushed knoll
lean lark
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he mentioned wafts

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that reminded him of rinda

frozen glen
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i am bulging

hushed knoll
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How

acoustic dune
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eheh bulge in my pants

left iron
smoky valley
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why are vets so salty

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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

surreal solstice
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Always have been

opaque island
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Gotta tell yah, rinda is probably half corpse under that armor

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Whether that makes it better or worse is up to you

surreal solstice
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Don't tell me you sticked your dick there

frosty herald
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This is rinda

smoky valley
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whole 15 minutes

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non stop yapping

lean lark
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thats not vet only

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that's a darktide player

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not a vet player

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generalize them better

smoky valley
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god bless

placid fiber
frosty herald
obtuse solstice
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dump stat for flamer?

lean lark
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mobility

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some people do damage, some ammo

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but mobility is your guarantee

smoky valley
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mob is best ngl

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u just stand still and turret away

obtuse solstice
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and what's the most important

inner crane
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burn and range/cloud radius

north sedge
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76 burn is the breakpoint

versed atlas
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thoughts on ma knoife

surreal solstice
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It's a noif

craggy ridge
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I want it.

surreal solstice
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That's it, that's my thought

smoky valley
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its

versed atlas
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a

smoky valley
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yeah

versed atlas
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noife

inner crane
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go, kill. good varlet.

versed atlas
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heavy eviscerator kinda too sexy to not use tho

surreal solstice
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Always have been

smoky valley
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martydom chainaxe build

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so sexy

surreal solstice
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Tho not always have been good

mental coral
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man all this talk about chainaxes and heavy eviscerators

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disgusting

versed atlas
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I really dislike martydrom ngl

mental coral
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someone wake me up when they bring back bleed knife meta

smoky valley
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still sexy

surreal solstice
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I'll wake you when they add bleed to surge, Derpy

versed atlas
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shrouldfiield heavy evi Sexoffender

mental coral
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2 target gets 16 bleed stacks

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might make surge useful kekw

surreal solstice
north sedge
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Shroud doesn't interact with chain weapons correctly

versed atlas
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I like shroudfield purely for the mobilty

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allows easy carries too

smoky valley
south folio
versed atlas
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yes its fixed

smoky valley
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thats stoopid

heavy arch
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arco would never hurt me with barrels

north sedge
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If only there was another mobility skill that you can get full dmg with chain weapons on

heavy arch
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need that panic run and hide button u dont understand

south folio
hushed knoll
south folio
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you're not true

heavy arch
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i said me, probaby you will get hurt stan

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you ask for it...

south folio
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i would never hurt stan

heavy arch
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ur such a loyal friend even after he slandered u like that

mental coral
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arcotash and barrels

fluid stirrup
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heavy evi is for chads

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with bloodletter

heavy arch
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they should add a maelstrom where there are extra barrels

north sedge
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๐Ÿค”

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there is extra barrels mod

heavy arch
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hows that work sounds like cheating

versed atlas
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Blood letter is good

fluid stirrup
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bloodletter is S tier

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Miss Mono knows

versed atlas
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Fully agree

heavy arch
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i dont like bleed because my philosophy is kill them now not later

south folio
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i approve of bleed after using shredder nades a bunch

heavy arch
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thoughtu only played psyker...

north sedge
heavy arch
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oh

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right on

north sedge
south folio
versed atlas
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crit crusher with bleed is peak

south folio
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i'll hop back onto psyker once they get a proper precision single-target force staff

heavy arch
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im on psyker grindset

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all i do is play trauma though idk why anyone touches any other staff

south folio
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purg is negative brain cell activity so it's nice

heavy arch
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what blessings

south folio
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flurry + nexus generally for dps

heavy arch
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slowly tickle them with fire or make them explode instantly

south folio
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focused channeling is less useful on purg if you're into it since you're uninterruptible while casting

heavy arch
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not even a competition!!!!

south folio
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๐Ÿ˜ก

dense field
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purg is so easy

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Chillest of gameplays

ripe quest
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Will you do anything to spruce and/or compress it? Or will it just be a google doc?

mental coral
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i just had a fucking special psyker try and purge staff the orthus twins

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while their shields are up

acoustic dune
mental coral
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3/3 with dogwater teams today

heavy arch
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with blazing trauma i just walk into a mixed horde staring at my toes just blasting my feet

north sedge
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no it is deeply complex, in my 60 part video series i will show you the ins and outs of applying a burn dot

mental coral
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orthus normal and these guys i get up and they are dead again in 30 seconds

north sedge
spark ember
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playing without twbs feels so bad sometimes ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

hexed field
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thy wrath be normal

placid fiber
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So uh... I accidentally got the bot to wake up the daemonhost, since I got trapped by a silent trapper directly behind me... and during that fight I learned that I really can stagger the daemonhost with the brunt's basher club with the slaps if I headshot it... I thought that was only heresay until this last run lol

slate void
gray ice
placid fiber
lean lark
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it works as everything

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even on shovel

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but on shovel you need to hit a heavy to the head

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and loop it

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heavy -> punch -> heavy ->punch

placid fiber
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All 3 shovels?

lean lark
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on clubs its just slap

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the new shovels dont have a punch

placid fiber
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oh that's right

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so I can't stagger monsters with them? lol

ancient brook
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Folding attack

lean lark
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no

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of course not

frosty herald
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new shovels go hard

placid fiber
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I wonder if you could with crunch and slam >.>

acoustic dune
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Ever just want to run faster than a mutant

placid fiber
north sedge
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no

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new shovel will just do alot of dmg

lean lark
ripe quest
ornate bone
ripe quest
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Particularly fun with Chaos Spawn when you can just punch -> heavy on loop

placid fiber
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even with thrust? xD

acoustic dune
royal vortex
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for the beast of nurgle you slap the weakspot twice

ornate bone
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The wet chicken slap

placid fiber
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Damn it, I really want to use the new shovels, but, if they can't stagger monsters... I don't really want to now ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Guess I'll just do it on Vet...

acoustic dune
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What chicken

blazing fossil
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do ogyrn shovels baseball the bursters like the vet shovels?

acoustic dune
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Do you mean rooster

north sedge
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new shovel can 1 shot 4 crushers

royal vortex
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new shovels do good vs bosses

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the shovel punch stagger is more inconsistent than the club slap anyways, so if you want boss stagger you don't take any of em

lean lark
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ok i think i might be demented as ive made probably the worst build ive ever done

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for knife

lean lark
ripe quest
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oh wtf

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no duellist

acoustic dune
ripe quest
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that build makes my brain crinkle

lean lark
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i dont really run duellist on anything except thammer

royal vortex
lean lark
ripe quest
lean lark
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with the punch

lean lark
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i just dont run it

mellow horizon
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Sheesh

acoustic dune
ripe quest
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+100% critical weakspot damage is goated though Sitgryn

lean lark
placid fiber
acoustic dune
mellow horizon
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The shovels are better suited for armour pen anyhow

acoustic dune
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As a knife

lean lark
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idk i dont run this dogshit weapon for a reason

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im trying it out for the hell of it

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and it cant oneshot ragers without a shroud backstab

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so i opted for the best second choice being staggering to twoshot without taking damage

acoustic dune
solar gorge
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does the new knife have the special into big stab combo

ripe quest
solar gorge
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if yes then ragers sorted

frosty herald
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the new knife punches into heavy stab into heavy stab 1

solar gorge
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haven't bothered to try out the new knife

lean lark
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you can still stagger ragers without the +30% impact but you need to hit weakspot/get a crit

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the +30% impact doesnt need anything

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just hit the rager

frosty herald
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the new knife puch follow up heavy is its own attack seperate from the combo

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so you can do a 4 heavy combo with the punch

ripe quest
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It'd be kinda funny if knife can do 10k damage to unyielding bosses per hit but cannot 1 shot a rager

blazing fossil
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wtf this ogyrn has cheetah pants

north sedge
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stupid bimbo ogryn

lean lark
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most i can get my mk6 knife to do is 1.7k dmg with a crit backstab

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without precog

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procc'd

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with it i can oneshot the rager

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ok time to take this dogass build into hishock and see how it goes

north sedge
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ok but i bet flesh tearer lacerate could one shot it

lean lark
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probably

ripe quest
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Martyr or just being lucky with buffs allows for a 1 shot on Dreg Ragers. A little bit more and it works for Scab Ragers too.

ripe quest
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It's so odd to me that you can pretty easily 6-7 shot a boss with knife but have to stretch to get a 1 shot on Ragers.

steep flame
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Theres a severe lack of dragons in warhammer 40k

frosty herald
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also wonder how much mutants would change if their melee damage multiplier was removed

coarse birch
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quite a bit

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rn they are so fragile

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if you couldnt reliably at most 3 shot them with most builds then the amount they throw at you could become much more threatening

royal vortex
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they at least need to drop the multi to 2x baseline

coarse birch
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yeah id agree

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if we are going to remain this strong at least

royal vortex
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hammer/og shovel etc would still be able to one shot, probs bringing it back to making thrust mandatory but still

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also writing a guide for crusher. fuck me why does skullcrusher only get applied on a push if you've already damaged a target

coarse birch
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hey im making a crusher now

royal vortex
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i included a bit about skullcrusher apply faster from push attacks but this is misinformation and i have duped myself

coarse birch
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i kept putting it off

royal vortex
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i had a "good enough" crusher and then mankar bitched at me enough i made a perfect one

sterile badge
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shit

royal vortex
left iron
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Thats not perfect

royal vortex
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2nd perk is a tossup between cara/maniac. need maniac to 1shs dreg ragers with tknives

coarse birch
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t3 unyielding ๐Ÿคจ

royal vortex
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die

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ah man if i dropped good balance i could have the ultimate boss hunting crusher

left iron
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Cant believe you settle for t3 perks

royal vortex
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i spent like 3 consecrates to gold to get t4 skullcrusher i aint fkin going back

coarse birch
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so are bis perks for crusher maniac/cara

royal vortex
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to rolling these things

coarse birch
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i know so little about crusher

royal vortex
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it's a tossup between flak/maniac/cara/unyielding maybe elites

lean lark
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josho count yourself as lucky

royal vortex
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i don't like flak, im hitting mauler heads and i dont really care about shooters etc

lean lark
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and get that t3 to t4

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crusher is an easy weapon to get perfect

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be grateful this isnt the situation you're in

royal vortex
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which leaves maniac/cara/unyielding

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and its like, i have tknives for flamers/trappers etc

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brauto too

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muties go down too fast for me to care

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so i lean towards unyielding/cara for bosses, bulwarks, crushers, and maulers

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cuz u chew up ragers for breakfast anyways

coarse birch
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i have a blue that rolled maniac so i just need Skullcrusher to roll on purple

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and im good

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and find hammerblow cause i have rolled

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1 crusher

royal vortex
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uhhhh if u have 1 good perk u have a guaranteed usable crusher

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because the only blessing u avoid is thunderstrike

coarse birch
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oh right if im not being picky yeah

royal vortex
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trauma is a lil worse because it stacks slower but it's like

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i ran trauma for a ton of games

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didn't really matter

coarse birch
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so what are the combos

royal vortex
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give me

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like an hour or two

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and i will provide everything u need to know unless i get something wrong

coarse birch
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word

royal vortex
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because i saw someone link messages i posted like a week ago about combos

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and i don't feel like 5 sentences is satisfactory to understanding the weapon and why u use it the way u do

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because the individual moves chain very fast so u can do different things depending on what the situation and goal is

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but for basic stuff u do h1 l2 single target l1 h2 horde

north sedge
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so just light spam special right?

royal vortex
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push attack into l2 h1 is good, push attack into h2 is the fastest chain time to the h2

north sedge
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why is crusher dmg so low though

royal vortex
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reeeeeeeeeeeee

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i hate u

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ive seen some crusher clips posted here where dudes are lightspamming vs gunners

coarse birch
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tbf

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you get away with it on like

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every other weapon that isnt hammer

north sedge
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it's ok i hate that shit too

royal vortex
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lightspam on crusher is terrible outside oif

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of

north sedge
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btw guys is it just me or is flamer weak?

coarse birch
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isnt l3 and l4 mid

royal vortex
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bruiser/shooter density that is slightly too high to do single target combos to kill effectively

coarse birch
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on crusher

royal vortex
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slightly too low to do l1 h2 or push attack h2

royal vortex
coarse birch
royal vortex
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every other light is

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passable

north sedge
coarse birch
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understandable

north sedge
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btw bleed knife still op

coarse birch
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true

royal vortex
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but lightspam on crusher is bad

native cargo
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kettle corn

coarse birch
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lacerate fleshtearer is a common conversation in this chat to this day

royal vortex
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to give u some math numbers

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on l1/3/4

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the h2 does 1.5-2x more damage

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to each target hit

royal vortex
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and has higher baseline cleave, granted this is only 2.5-ish difference

north sedge
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it never ends

royal vortex
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but it's the difference between hitting 1 mauler and 2 in a crowd

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which is super important

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and the crusher is super super super fast with its swings

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another thing is

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to start a combo, you do l1 -> h2 which has a SUPER slow chain time to the h2 for w/e reason

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so getting to the h2 (at least initially) is faster with a push attack

coarse birch
#

so when do i use the special then

royal vortex
#

and i think if u have read this far u can understand why i want to write a guide about this stuff because i dont wanna type this out every time

royal vortex
#

good on the l1

coarse birch
#

so nice for like

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packs of shit

royal vortex
#

heavy special is an explosion radius, basically an "oh fuck i have been swarmed/im caught out of position" sorta thing

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yea if u get conga lined and now have 4+ maulers etc on ur screen

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the special light is very good

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special push attack is for carapace

native cargo
#

Just use crusher

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smh

royal vortex
#

its the single highest damage move u can do vs carapace on it

coarse birch
#

ill play around with it in meat grinder rq

royal vortex
#

ppl will tell u to use blazing piety or martyrdom with it

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but

coarse birch
#

i was gonna run momentum anyway

royal vortex
#

crusher dodge stats

coarse birch
#

tbh

royal vortex
#

are not good

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which is where momentum's unlisted dodge buffs are super good because they make the weapon a lot more fluid movement wise to play

coarse birch
#

i dont really like piety and i dont run martyrdom so

lean lark
#

ok i postponed my knife game a while

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its over for these 3 poor souls

royal vortex
#

piety sounds cooler in my head than i actually like using it in game

#

its supposed to be like a rage mode thing but it gives u

#

uh

#

crit chance

coarse birch
#

i just dont like the crit CDR spam

royal vortex
#

or a lil extra toughness on any kill

#

yea i never take it

#

crit cdr is so boring

coarse birch
#

its like oh boy

#

what will i do now

#

i think i will chastise

royal vortex
#

before contra was banned he would cope his marty build was high risk high reward cuz he didnt take survivability talents

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but the fkin dude had crit cdr

blazing fossil
#

holy shit this lvl 1200+ ogyrn

royal vortex
#

also the same dude who was like "how are you staggering crushers with chastise???" which i guess makes a bit more sense

smoky valley
#

glock

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so sex

drifting wolf
#

girthquake

coarse birch
#

oh hey girthquake

royal vortex
#

girthquake is p good

royal vortex
coarse birch
#

not hitting them in the head ig

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ik he used evis

blazing fossil
#

i got most players rescued, get fucked girthquake KEKW_ogryn

coarse birch
#

and i never had that issue with evis

royal vortex
#

rampage is a power blessing so if u have that up im fairly certain it would work

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he also chose really awkward times to use it in every clip he posted which certainly didnt help

ember yew
coarse birch
#

i do run ramapage

drowsy jackal
#

kid named columnus mk v

royal vortex
#

i love seein the same dude launch dt 4 times in an hour

#

trying to guess if they are fkin with mods or crashing

ember yew
#

probably 2nd

royal vortex
#

i know arco will mess with his god awful ui

#

fairly frequently

coarse birch
#

wait did i just boot DT 4 times

royal vortex
#

no

coarse birch
#

yeah arco boots it a ton

#

ok i was gonna say

drowsy jackal
#

4-man multi-box

royal vortex
#

hell yeah

#

lan party

ember yew
#

that would be a thing if you could transfer all plasteel to main account

drowsy jackal
#

legit

blazing fossil
#

im finding HS6+BoF+Bolter is a good all around combo, bolter for sniper/carapace only

lean lark
#

yes

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wait bof?

blazing fossil
#

blades of faith

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is there a better melee weapon for rager walls than the HS6?

#

doubt

ember yew
#

chainaxe?

coarse birch
#

in terms of TTK no not really

#

being able to kill like 5

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in one swing

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is hard to beat

north sedge
#

crusher

ember yew
#

chainaxe spam probably will melt them up when headtaker and slaughter stacked + other buffs

#

should be close

#

unless there a horde

royal vortex
#

crusher is really good for safely dispatching them

ember yew
#

then glhf

frosty herald
#

Crusher has i believe the highest stagger of any weapon

coarse birch
#

actually is duellist good for crusher

royal vortex
#

disdain isn't great because it's every other swing which can be awkward to get to apply to the h2 (the move you want the damage to proc on) in practice

coarse birch
#

i kinda autopiloted to it

royal vortex
#

but its fine as a 1 point investment

#

yeah

#

punishment is worthless

#

until death is much better

coarse birch
#

ok ill just take until death then

royal vortex
#

this is v similar to my build

coarse birch
#

or good balance ig but crusher has mid dodges as you said

royal vortex
#

agri is supposed to be columnus im just stupid

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oh no crusher is good with good balance

#

esp with momentum

coarse birch
#

i wanna try graia more too it feels like

royal vortex
#

because it procs v often

coarse birch
#

inconsistent to me though

royal vortex
#

the problem with graia is getting to use its cool gimmick requires bracing

coarse birch
#

maybe its my lower stability

#

yeah i never brace

royal vortex
#

and a lot of the time i just want to hipfire a couple ragers off my screen

coarse birch
#

i just crouch hipfire

royal vortex
#

yeah then i wouldnt use a graia

#

columnus suits that purpose much better

frosty herald
#

Meh its free damage

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And potential oneshot on thammer

royal vortex
#

this is specifically in the context of crusher

#

where certain moves in each combo are far more damaging than others

coarse birch
#

ok yeah i am pretty much running your build except i dont have until death and you dont have purge the unclean

north sedge
#

oh sweet agri josho

royal vortex
coarse birch
#

im running purge mostly cause im probs gonna run cara

royal vortex
#

i do have a godrolled agri brauto on zealot

#

yea thats fair

coarse birch
#

i also have a good agri

#

although

royal vortex
#

i dropped purge for desperation in my build

coarse birch
#

now i run columnus anyway

royal vortex
#

because i asked myself why do i have it

#

and it was for bosses

#

and i dont have stam vs bosses anyways

#

so i took desperation because its more universally applicable

coarse birch
#

also nice in case i need to mag dump with columnus after chastise for w/e reason

royal vortex
#

desperation also nets u a very specific bp

#

with full sustained assault stacks

coarse birch
#

which id only do against like a beast prob cause idk how well crusher hits the weakspot if its anything like needing to aim it like hammer

royal vortex
#

u can push attack -> l2 and kill a dreg/scab gunner

#

instead of using heavies

#

so long as u hit 2 headshots

royal vortex
#

the columnus does decent enough damage on weakspot

#

other bosses i always melee

coarse birch
#

ill usually hold onto a red stim for it too

frosty herald
#

It always feels nice when you bash a burster and dont get hit

royal vortex
#

red stims are super fun with columnus

north sedge
#

i can't wait for your okri style crusher guide except it's useful

coarse birch
#

so i can red stim chastise and then mag dump

royal vortex
north sedge
#

cool

coarse birch
#

also super fun into crushers

frosty herald
#

Stims are surprisingly super balanced

coarse birch
#

also josho you have taught me to use my gun more

royal vortex
#

i think most of my solo fights with crusher vs armor swarms devolve into me chastising with a brauto

frosty herald
#

Especialy since the ult cooldown one doesnt spawn frequently

royal vortex
coarse birch
#

i noticed to be aggro you tended to slide in with a gun at least at first

#

where as i always viewed my gun as p last resort

royal vortex
#

o

#

yea

coarse birch
#

like if i could melee

north sedge
#

omg no its zealot i wish i could have 2 melees i could not interact with half the game and do poorly

coarse birch
#

i would always melee

#

which made stuff a little more awkward than it needed to be at times

royal vortex
#

my thing is like

#

sometimes u just choose the tool based on vibes

royal vortex
#

its fun to shoot

north sedge
royal vortex
#

i think i picked that up more on ogryn than anything

frosty herald
#

Sometimes you use laser lance sometimes you use dual gatling

royal vortex
#

because ur so gd slow

north sedge
#

other people that constantly say the "i wish i could have 2 melee" thing

royal vortex
#

and all ur guns are super high suppression/stagger

coarse birch
#

oh yeah

royal vortex
#

and for brautos etc it translates really well for pushing

coarse birch
#

yeah i like it with brauto and on my graia iag/DS4 build with psyker

#

cause it either makes getting into melee easy or just kills them

royal vortex
#

yea

coarse birch
#

not that i cant do the same thing with assail

royal vortex
#

a lot of the time with brauto i wont actually score kills with it vs say mauler swarms and whatnot

#

because ill have to target swap to soften em up

#

but then the mag runs dry and i hit em with crusher a couple times and it looks like i melee'd them to death when really i didnt

coarse birch
#

also what is graias gimmick on brace anyway

#

i never noticed one

royal vortex
#

20% fire rate increase

#

it's uh... yeah. cool i guess

sharp zodiac
#

Revolutionary

coarse birch
#

oh is that why i thought that graia was the fire rate one

#

and then it felt

#

not that different

#

cause i dont brace

royal vortex
#

yeah lmao

#

u brace on the brauto if ur doing mid-to-long range magdumping

#

because it helps with recoil/spread iirc

#

thats what crab said when i asked him about brautos when p14 dropped anyways

#

at close range u hipfire cuz the dudes are in ur face anyways

coarse birch
#

i could never tell if tap firing normally or braced was better

#

at long range

royal vortex
#

and if ur taking 1-2 specials down at mid range theres also not a point in bracing

coarse birch
#

with agri at least havent tested with col/graia

royal vortex
#

at least on agri

#

which makes it slightly better

#

but idk on zealot

#

probs with dance of death up u brace for maximum accuracy

#

but if u have dance of death ur not tapfiring anyways

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

i see

coarse birch
#

i could see graia being worse cause of the fire rate increase

frosty herald
#

You should uhhh

#

Magdump graia

royal vortex
#

graia's buff brought it to the same dps as columnus iirc

frosty herald
#

Graia is insane with spread reduction on dodge

royal vortex
#

all of the brautos are

coarse birch
#

i meant for accuracy

#

base

frosty herald
#

Graia has doodoo accuracy

royal vortex
#

graia is weird

#

i find columnus with chastise/momentum is a bullethose anyways

coarse birch
#

yeah half the time i shoot columnus its insane fire rate

#

cause momentum or chastise is up

royal vortex
#

remember

#

if u lose or gain a fire rate buff while shooting

#

it does not apply

#

so if ur shooting then chastise stop firing to get the buff

#

but if ur momentum stacks drop/u lose aspd from chastise u keep shooting

coarse birch
#

oh ok

royal vortex
#

this bug is one of those like fundamental engine things iirc

#

so its worth getting in the habit of cuz who knows if they will ever fix it

frosty herald
#

Graia is hella fun as a bullet hose tho

spark ember
#

left or right

royal vortex
#

i would always take TWBS

spark ember
#

for that

fleet zealot
#

Dead as hell kindred

royal vortex
#

definitely TWBS for eviscerator, u dont wanna get staggered outta ur swings on smth that slow

blazing fossil
mental coral
fleet zealot
#

Im not cute or a kitty ive been touched by nurgle cause of my roommates being fucking stupid

spark ember
#

fokin knockback is just disgusting

royal vortex
#

yea

#

i havent played zealot w/o twbs in hundreds of hours

#

thank god u dont have to choose between it and holy rev now

lean lark
#

alright

#

knife is something i guess

spark ember
#

on the other hand crit evi with crit cdr is good too

#

i ran like 3 or 4 games without twbs

#

in some moments where i could clutch, i just got knockback locked

#

and coldnt even charge at them xD

royal vortex
#

๐Ÿ˜”

spark ember
#

4 talents just to reach twbs is kinda brutal thou ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

royal vortex
#

the 15 toughness talent is p good at least

#

that and dance of death if u have smth like a brauto or iag

spark ember
#

nahi use zarona so its mostly useless for me sadly ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

royal vortex
#

damn

frosty herald
#

The new ghibli movie is pret popular

lean lark
#

zealot without twbs is most certainly doable

#

but you need to be very good to run it

frosty herald
#

However very silly

spark ember
#

it is playable, but to be honest after 4 games i feels lick i am a bit lacking....

lean lark
#

on certain weapons

#

i played like 400+ hours as holy revenant thammer

#

equipping twbs was certainly an upgrade

#

way less things to worry about or time or focus

frosty herald
#

No mid swing interruption

mental coral
#

Konosuba season 3 is coming

#

Yay

spark ember
#

guess i will stick to twbs too... crits and 20% boss dmg is nice, but damn those gunners are annoying as fuck

mental coral
#

And this is the darktide discord

#

Oops

north sedge
#

finally konosuba season 3

frosty herald
#

Frieren best anime

spark ember
#

the fun thing that if one day fatshark will fix TWBS it will become nearly useless XD

#

Solo leveling is coming thou XD

#

popular one, i read whole thing was pretty decent

mental coral
#

Story is eh art is cool

#

Itโ€™s kinda power trippy

ripe quest
#

Or fast attack speed.

maiden path
#

did u guys see they are giving vet a +50% damage increase node out of nowhere

ripe quest
#

On Knife, Chainsword, and Crusher I usually avoid TWBS

maiden path
#

they just adding it

mental coral
#

I just want them to fix crafting

ripe quest
#

Where did you hear that Vet is getting a +50% damage node?

spark ember
#

New evi with shred

maiden path
#

i am lying

ripe quest
spark ember
maiden path
spark ember
#

the emperor is trying to say me something?

maiden path
#

kitty playing queens of the stone age

viral hare
#

thats the best i can say though

spark ember
#

what hammer users use, thrust + what?

viral hare
#

slaughterer iirc

spark ember
#

shock and awe is bad?

viral hare
#

its not great

#

thrust is required, then either slaughterer or headtaker, whichever you can get, preferably slaughterer

spare talon
#

its only taken nearly a year

#

but melk has it

#

rampage t4 for devils claw

viral hare
#

noice

spark ember
#

i see, so i can trash that hammer i guess XD

north sedge
#

the gap between headtaker and slaughter isn't as much as it used to be, either works now

spark ember
#

stats are nice thou

viral hare
#

just in case you get the blessings

#

and you can swap those out

spark ember
#

but hammer need unyeilding dmg

#

like what is point in running hammer without boss dmg XD

north sedge
#

i would say it's a very nice to have, leans into what it does

spare talon
# spark ember shock and awe is bad?

i recall shock and all being a bad blessing not because its effect is bad, but because the weapon fundamentally cant actually make use of it, but i could be wrong

viral hare
#

eh, it can do without, its really the blessings that are the most important

north sedge
#

but hammer gets unyielding bonus on it's own

viral hare
#

unyielding is really good, but thammer already does great boss dmg by itself

spark ember
north sedge
#

sure

#

but you can still work with that hammer if you got the blessings on hand

viral hare
#

yeah but realistically luck isnt on your side in this game, I take what I can get

#

once in a while the emperor himself bestows upon you a god rolled weapon

spark ember
#

ugh.... kay i will keep it, may be one day i will land my hand on it..

viral hare
#

i think like day 2 of me rolling my first zealot weapons i got a near perfect revolver out of nowhere

spare talon
#

its beautiful

mental coral
#

Now he just needs chastise fury crit cd

spare talon
#

i already use that

#

ive been using this weapon for a while, just had t3 rampage instead of t4

#

wheres that one rager video

ember yew
#

that one works, you'l just be missing a bit of Unyelding damage

spare talon
#

now it has 4% more power (a game changing increase that will be very noticeable totally)

ornate bone
#

now do it on flak ragers

spare talon
#

actually doesnt take that much longer since ive got both flak and elite perks

crude lake
#

A crit is determine when an attack is launched and everything it hits is crit, right?

royal vortex
#

yes

mental coral
#

perfect timing is sustained from just criting so you can hit nothing and still get perfect timing stacks

crude lake
#

Itโ€™s been a. But but I was a Bromentum Taxe lover, and I was thinking thatโ€™s how it worked

tranquil summit
#

seems like the best VA for the male zealots is the Judge. opinions?

crude lake
#

I have a clip of 11 consecutive CTWs

ornate bone
# spare talon

I pretty much run that build but i run the heavy sword with cleave at 200 and headtaker

ripe quest
#

Oooh the Psyker talent.

#

nvm

fleet zealot
#

hsword has so much cleave baseline that it doesn't boost your dps really

ripe quest
#

It does help the Hsword but it's just outclassed.

fleet zealot
#

yee rampage and deathblow add a ton of damage potential, espceilly new dblow

open bramble
#

Yeah, I like dblow, but rampage is still awesome.

ripe quest
#

It was so fun when it was a 104% damage buff.

gray ice
#

As broken things tend to be

#

50% thrust stacks lives on in my heart

open bramble
#

It's weird, because lots of people were still arguing for dblow even back when rampage was bugged

gray ice
#

It's me I'm people

fleet zealot
#

cause killing 4 elites in one swing iss till strong

ripe quest
#

It's extremely hard to pass up doing first target damage 5x

gray ice
#

Dblow was just as if not more effective than bugged rampage for hswords

frank night
#

true i agree that vin is indeed a person

gray ice
#

Thank you mittins in the afternoon for your glowing endorsement

frank night
#

its evening now

#

good evening

gray ice
#

Mittins in the evening

lyric rain
#

Heavy Sword life chose me

patent zinc
#

Hello everyone.
I've started playing recently and I was wondering what you all think about the disdain talent, I think it's kinda meh compared to other options.

royal vortex
#

disdain isnt something i'd spend a 1 point dip on personally

lyric rain
#

Chastise into heavy overhead swing feels good man

royal vortex
#

it's extra damage which is never bad

#

but its only on half ur swings

gray ice
#

Disdain is fine, 1 point for free dmg if you want it

patent zinc
#

Yeah, the way I've been thinking about is that it kinda falls off if you're fighting any monstrosity, at which point sustained assault is significantly better.

royal vortex
#

and weapons with strikedowns/low cleave don't get as much value from it

patent zinc
#
  • you lose the disdain stacks if you miss a hit.
royal vortex
#

sustained assault is just better than disdain if both are a 1 point dip for ur build

#

although for most ppl its a 2 point investment since u might not be taking the 5% melee damage node above it otherwise

patent zinc
#

The 5 melee damage node kinda makes up for what disdain would do on most situations lol

royal vortex
#

yea

ornate bone
#

what's the setup for the new XV eviscerator?

gray ice
#

I mean yea but disdain has potential to surpass the flat 5

#

Since it scales with hordes

royal vortex
#

rampage + whatever. u can do savage sweep or wrath if u want cleave (although it doesn't add extra damage since it has target damage caps of 4)

#

bloodthirsty + carapace if you want to one shot crushers with a heavy rev crit

#

can't go wrong with flak or maniac or even elites as perks

#

shred for crit builds ofc

patent zinc
#

It would be a lot better I assume if I was running a faster weapon with sweeping attacks

gray ice
#

Ah well yes. You wouldn't take disdain using like knife

ornate bone
#

3 hits on enemy give you 200 cleave

#

with teh head taker

#

that makes the sword uber i love running it

#

and for the revolver? zarona

royal vortex
#

flak/maniac + surgical/hand cannon

ornate bone
#

not carapace?

royal vortex
#

carapace is ok in place of flak

#

particularly if u dont have a wpn that handles crushers

#

wouldnt drop maniac though

ornate bone
#

crushers and maulers

#

and also it seems that back stab damage and pinnign fire is becoming the meta way to deal with crushers easily if youre a zealot main

north sedge
#

๐Ÿค”

fleet zealot
#

it doesn'td oa much but im sikc rn and cant explain properly

ornate bone
north sedge
#

the other options just outclass it, basically

ornate bone
#

then again im noticng still back stab damage and "note i dont have it yet for my buidls but " racking fire is defo meta for zealot if youre doing a melele build

north sedge
#

๐Ÿค”

ornate bone
#

cause fire nades do them but better im o

north sedge
#

huh

#

that convo was about hsword blessings

pliant palm
#

soo, is this a good build?
it is decent at least?

fleet zealot
#

stun nades are great for pathing your talent tree

#

and hordes of armor

north sedge
#

and my thinkings are about raking fire and backstabs being needed, cause they're not necessary, backstab is nice and all but not crazy, if i get them i get them

north sedge
pliant palm
#

i currently use the Eviscerator,
but i do plan on having a chainaxe and thunderhammer to swap to from time to time

misty ravine
#

It might be a meme but Bloodthirsty is growing on me for crit builds on XV Evis

north sedge
#

drop the toughness momentum stacks node for backstab cdr

misty ravine
#

Chain crits when overheading elites, pretend it's an Illisi versus hordes

north sedge
#

and i would drop disdain/ewew to get twbs

pliant palm
#

uhh, twbs?

north sedge
#

thy wrath be swift

#

the node below/left of throwing knife

#

have to take dance of death to get to it

dark zealot
#

that just crashed my graphics drivers

pliant palm
#

oh i see, that does sound like smt i could use, thanks

north sedge
#

the tooltip lies, it prevents ranged stun too

dark zealot
#

amd really hates this game

pliant palm
dark zealot
#

the only other thing that ever game me issues was a certain amd setting and COD... but like its COD, thats doing be a favour

pliant palm
#

gunners will fear me as i have became unstoppable

patent zinc
dark zealot
#

well since its crashed already i should be fine for the next few hours

#

the shop has given me that

patent zinc
dark zealot
#

am i being a dum dum?

#

that the heck does it mean by that?

azure mortar
#

I think it's the damage falloff

dark zealot
#

funny way of spelling unyielding?

azure mortar
#

oh

#

uhhhhhhhh yeah I dunno

dark zealot
patent zinc
#

Unyielding enemies are supposed to have a natural resistance to ranged damage iirc

azure mortar
#

why call it "resistant" though when even in the stats it's called unyielding
it's just weird, even if it's correct

ripe quest
azure mortar
#

ADM = attack damage modifier ?

ripe quest
#

Armor Damage Modifier.

azure mortar
#

i see

dark zealot
#

does a lot of unyielding damage when close

#

i already have this pistol

ripe quest
# dark zealot columnus mk5 IA for reference

Those numbers in the stat cards can be misleading. Esp the IAGs for whatever reason. You can see that it says it has a 147% adm for Unyielding and Maniac, but in the damage table that isn't shown.