zealot-class

[zinc talon]

welp

let's see what they do in a maelstrom with it

[solar gorge]

the impact crusher

[placid fiber]

Welp, guys, I did about as well as any level 9 players when you have 2 at least above average skilled players in a high int malice run >.>'

Dat Vet was on a roll

My poor underleveled non-assail psyker ass was not gonna ever do more damage than a completent players playing as Veteran at level 30 >.>

[frosty herald]

I LOVE BALAM COMPANY!!!!!!!!

[dense field]

Well of course.

[placid fiber]

Who are they and what do they have to do with snow penguins?!

[polar nexus]

Nerf vet.

[placid fiber]

I would like to think I still did pretty good, considering there were 2 competent level 30's and I still got the most boss damage with pretty much just venting, for faster brain bursts, before just brainbursting tf out of the monster >.>

[strange kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[placid fiber]

No! I say make those aggressive babies even Stronger! As a sign that they will be needed for the Chaos Beast of Ratogre coming soon (rated pending)

[dense field]

competent level 30s don't play malice but a full skill tree and higher base items will make a difference

[placid fiber]

I mean... they do if they want easy wins for free with a higher chance of no player deaths >.>

[strange kestrel]

that is true

[dense field]

I'm not sure about that

Especially the player death part

[placid fiber]

I mean I've even done that before, just so I can 1 shot daemonhosts and have an easy run >.>

Question what do you guys think, I'm pretty sure the perk might be better but: t4 warp flurry/warp nexus or 25% flak damage on this piece of crap?

I like to upgrade my leveling character's gear so leveling with actual trash players is... doable >.>

[dense field]

Damage

[placid fiber]

I mean you know how malice and heresy randoms are...

[dense field]

Very unpredictable!

[open echo]

what were they using?

[placid fiber]

Know what's really sad?

I consider heresy pubs to end up being worse generally because they are jumping from malice to heresy but...

these malice randoms have been immensily worse than the heresy randoms I usually get x.x

[open echo]

i have stopped trusting pubs with bursters

they amount of times i go to push one and someone shoots it

[placid fiber]

Also: what do you guys think of my "Voidstrike" staff?

[open echo]

its normally a bolter player

[placid fiber]

It is kind of evil that I put the thammer trinket thing on that, but, I love that trinket them so fucking much

[open echo]

so sad i missed it

[placid fiber]

You did?

[open echo]

yeah :(

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

Those are my thoughts about you missing it 😦

[open echo]

wahh

wonder if it will come back in 2024

totally not a cope

[placid fiber]

I'm almost able to start making an adequate build on this new psyker... That is with not taking several majorly important talents for assail and toughness...

That's how far all my talent points stretch >.>'

[dense field]

almost there

[placid fiber]

After that I'm getting toughness on peril attack kill, both assail talents, and 1 more +15 toughness node

Until then I'm sticking with my brain rupture build, because I like being able to vent if I almost blow up instead of doing more overall damage <.<

I actually almost blew up this last match, but, my career was ready as it usually is at least...

That's so embarrasing since I was a battle wizard main in vt2...

[polar nexus]

I went as low as T2 to get my no death contract and finish my last weekly. Let's say nobody died. I made sure of that.

[strange kestrel]

i hate wizard classes

in general

give me the biggest weapon

[placid fiber]

BW was the one that got me into them

when I figured out I could teleport up dead drops... I was in love

You still can in some places

[strange kestrel]

give me a big ass gunlance with big ass armor and a big ass shield

i am definitely not compensating for anything.

[placid fiber]

So you want the outcast engineer, but, with more armor?

They massively buffed that career >.>'

[strange kestrel]

yes

the closest thing to a dragonslayer

[placid fiber]

I love the changes they did the battle wizard. Using lingering flames doesn't make me feel like a let down

[open echo]

i want the achievement but i cannot be bothered to lvl oggryn

[placid fiber]

It makes burn tick twice as fast and last forever

[open echo]

ughh

[placid fiber]

and if I get famished flames on top of that in the wastes...? 2x burn damage, 2x tick speed

[strange kestrel]

missing out on ogryn

gunlugger is crazy fun

[placid fiber]

Ironbreaker is hella close to Ogryn, and his shield weapons are way more fun imo

[oak ermine]

No Ogryn, no achiement

[open echo]

i just don't really enjoy the look of how oggy plays

[oak ermine]

Experience tranquility by playing the chadgryn

[dense field]

no thank you

It's too calming

[oak ermine]

And that’s okay

[strange kestrel]

its therapeutic

[placid fiber]

Do Ironbreaker, bring an axe and shield and tank hits, before bashing a horde with the shield(heavy 1/2) and getting almost your hp back as temp hp at once

[strange kestrel]

shooting 50 bmg throughout the entire match

[placid fiber]

Hell take a 2h hammer or axe on ironbreaker if you fancy that

[dense field]

I cannot cope with these tiny dodge distances

[placid fiber]

Want to dodge? Take the dual hammers!

[open echo]

axe?

[placid fiber]

Want explosive weaponry? Take the trollerhammer.

[placid fiber]

Axe is better because it can kill elites more easily*

with the shield

And the temp hp you get from heavy shield bashing... can literally be almost your fulll hp bar if it was +50% hp which is 225

[dense field]

I'm so bad at VT2

[open echo]

huh, what axe?

[placid fiber]

and you were at like 20hp when you bashed the dense horde

[open echo]

i am confusing myself

[placid fiber]

1 HandAxe and Shield

[strange kestrel]

are we talking about dwarves or ogryns

[placid fiber]

Ironbreaker(Dwarves) on vt2

It's a bit challenging to get used to, but, I've taken it to cata and legend and it felt fun af

[open echo]

oooh your talking about vt lol

[placid fiber]

in the wastes I mean

my bad I should have clarified that

[sullen grotto]

Is damage resistance on curios good?

[placid fiber]

but bardin as ironbreaker has way more playstyles than a shieldgryn has...

[mystic ether]

thinking of swapping riposte with uncanny but honestly riposte has been putting in work for me regardless as long as I have either precognition or uncanny.

[blazing fossil]

whats best ranged weapon to compliment a crucius? Agri IAG?

[strange kestrel]

riposte is good

[placid fiber]

Gunner? Almost required on front-line characters. Sniper? Nice quality of life if you can't dodge or get shot by a ninja sniper. Mutie resist? No. Poxhound resist? No. Flamer resist? I think people say it's good. Bomber resist? Not 100% sure

[strange kestrel]

if youre getting mileage out of it i dont see why youd swap it out

the rending from uncanny is pretty nice tho

[placid fiber]

No matter how well you play... sooner or later a sniper will tag you on damnation

the question is: do you want to do over half of your no-hp curio build? or less?

[strange kestrel]

yes

must have

[placid fiber]

And I mean on a zealot, it's nearly half iirc on an ogryn

[mystic ether]

Yeah honestly that's the main thing. If I ever get to try out a high roll new knife I'll try that combo to see how it works as just a horde/flak unit shredder.

[placid fiber]

like 130 some damage

[open echo]

i use agri shotgun, laspistol, mk3 hh and agri brauto

[sullen grotto]

Is gunner damage resistance on all 3 curios good or bad idea?

[strange kestrel]

any

[placid fiber]

Imo: Brauto or Autopistol with inspiring barrage.

[mystic ether]

The uncanny/precog setup.

[dense field]

It's a good idea

[placid fiber]

And toughness(non-martyrdom)/wounds(martyrdom) builds

Chastise works really well with a thammer, but, perfection shroudfield does give you a chance to be able to 1 shot some damnation bosses, with like 4-6 martyrdom stacks... <.<'

iirc someone said that even current plague ogryns can be 1 shot by it

but you needed like 6 marty stacks

[open echo]

i always top boss damage with chaxe lol, almost always 50k+

[dense field]

You have a 3 sec window to approach the boss, aim, and strike

The teammate is probably kiting that boss away

[naive star]

How ammo efficient are flamers, does that 57% kill it?

[placid fiber]

Some weapons are really good for boss damage, including the chainsword(I like bloodletter in case I find monsters or for less revved hits on some elites)

[dense field]

The flamers spend 6-7 ammo to kill any number of lesser enemies

[placid fiber]

I think it lets me 2 shot maulers with no melee damage stacks or rampage and without my career skill... with t3 Bloodletter*

[open echo]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ae5606a-f6bb-4830-8dfd-ada22c4335de/xii-chaxe this is what i use most of the time

[placid fiber]

I know other options are better

It just is a personal preference, for me

[placid fiber]

And it does help me

[open echo]

can't find a way to grab duelist :(

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[strange kestrel]

what did i just see

[zinc talon]

a mauler hit me for 192 health plus toughness

I am so angry I broke a sweat sitting still

[strange kestrel]

that crusher.

[dense field]

What were you trying to shoot?

[open echo]

this is the other chaxe i also use

[zinc talon]

the sniper downstairs

I didn't realize there was a third mutant and that mauler came out of noplace

was already successfully dodging two of em

I had the time to step out and snapshot the dude

[dense field]

You were looking at the mauler at the beginning of your video

[zinc talon]

but, mauler killed me from full health minus 8 hp

single hit

[dense field]

There's 2 of them

[open echo]

no until death?

[dense field]

Mauler overheads hit as hard as crusher overheads

[open echo]

it prevents oopsies with maulers and crushers

[trail grove]

Imagine if being racist can actually be weaponized.

Oh wait.

[strange kestrel]

yup

[trail grove]

Purge the Unclean

[dense field]

I think it can

[strange kestrel]

dont gotta imagine

[sullen grotto]

Germany tried that once

[trail grove]

Not that kind.

Just kill with words.

[strange kestrel]

heretic

[zinc talon]

this is why

[dense field]

That's magic

And magic is heresy

[zinc talon]

the motion blur hid his shape until after I landed

and by then he was directly in front of that torch, that matched his armor and visor glow perfectly

[trail grove]

No, no no.

Diss some heretic so hard that they commit suicide out of fuckin' shame.

[zinc talon]

still

A HUNDRED AND NINETY TWO FUCKIN HEALTH

[fading dune]

Guys what is this medal below the mission?

[trail grove]

Secondary objective.

[left iron]

Has books in it

[trail grove]

Usually means books.

[fading dune]

ty

[zinc talon]

30 toughness 192 health

[trail grove]

If it's Scriptures, make sure to listen for them.

[left iron]

Behold, the scab clown car

[zinc talon]

so that means my toughness deflected another 30%

[left iron]

Without the car

[trail grove]

If it's Grimoire, follow the green glow.

[zinc talon]

he hit me for 250 points of damage

[dense field]

More

It will 100-0 you with full health and toughness

With 1 overhead

[zinc talon]

gawd I could punch a toddler in the throat

[dense field]

I felt very uncomfortable watching that clip, such an urge to turn around

[open echo]

oooo I've been trying to make a vet laspistol + Rashad build, can i see yours?

[sullen grotto]

Is bolter best ranged weapon for bosses?

[dense field]

Not really

[sullen grotto]

Revolver then?

[dense field]

What class?

[sullen grotto]

Zealot

[dense field]

Flamer

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-23464742

[sullen grotto]

I always used the flamer on hordes, is it actually good for bosses?

[ember yew]

@dense fielddang how many people today asked for ranged wep against bosses

[dense field]

It's fantastic vs bosses

[ember yew]

better play veteran

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-cheers-the-great-gatsby-coupe-glass-toast-gif-10657915

[sullen grotto]

Used to

[ember yew]

why sudden heart switch

welcome tho

[sullen grotto]

Changed from vet when the talent overhaul happened

[ember yew]

well, after the patch vet tree was a great meme

but rn its pretty good i guess

[sullen grotto]

Haven't tried the new vet tree rework yet
Been meaning to but just haven't felt like it I guess

[ember yew]

again, i wonder if they got the playtesters beside 4 ogryns

[dense field]

The veteran was never bad tbh.

[sullen grotto]

Been having fun with melee crazed zealot but I find it difficult to get close to bosses without being knocked back all the time so I figured using ranged weapons for the might be better

[ember yew]

but it was kinda hilarious when the build actually dont use the final nodes and pick like everything from the middle

[left iron]

Im not the best person to ask this tbh, i mostly just picked the good talents from the tree + some that i enjoy, rashad is bromentum headtaker with flakiac, laspistol is flakiac + dumdum ghost

I just use it with almost every ranged weapon

And switch around

[open echo]

fair lol

[dense field]

Ranged weapons are indeed easier. Some other options are a laspistol with dumdum+infernus, a kantrael shotgun, a columnus V.

[left iron]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af70adb-a787-4031-bbcf-aae32d89a09b/terminally-average Is the tree, but bear in mind you can probably make a way better with a little tinkering

[ember yew]

most of those knockback you can dodge (Ogre - Stomp/Charge), (Beast - Tail sweep), only chaos spawn is a bit wonky and all over the place

but you'l get it with time

[zinc talon]

to give yall an idea of what I think of veteran

I have 2

[ember yew]

weak miniogryn?

[zinc talon]

my 4th and 5th slots are a guy and gal vet

and they are both rank 1 underwear models for the cosmetics I buy them

nothing more

[placid fiber]

Finally I got the dualing sword 4, on my 2nd psyker! 😄

[ember yew]

i saw naked knife zealot lvl 250+

he run away somewhere

got grabbed by dog

nobody helped him (i was a bit busy at frontline)

and he ragequit

[dense field]

The legend says he's still running somewhere in Dreyko

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[placid fiber]

sigh this is the best crap my leveling credits shop has to offer me from Brunt...

[prisma sigil]

It's a rite of passage for all zealots

[placid fiber]

I want a refund! >_<

[prisma sigil]

If you want to git gud enough to solo carry you're gonna get netted or dogged a few times before you make it

[ember yew]

challenge yourself

[zinc talon]

Stop

buying

from

brunt

[dense field]

^

[placid fiber]

You're gonna get dogged and netted even after reaching that, when caught off guard and you don't react fast enough

[zinc talon]

https://accounts.atoma.cloud/login

use this instead

it will show you every item for sale for every character you have

without having to login

[placid fiber]

Brunt Gives My Leveling Characters Gear That Usually Is Higher Than the stuff from the credits shop. :/

[zinc talon]

keep the page open and refresh occasionally

then login to buy 370+

[placid fiber]

I am level 12 my dude

[zinc talon]

oh, right on man wasn't diggin on ya

[placid fiber]

Brunt has always given me the highest rated weapons over the credits shop xD

[prisma sigil]

I see account dashboard, redeem code, and twitch drops

[placid fiber]

for lowbies

[prisma sigil]

Where's this brunt stuff at

[zinc talon]

they finally added a voice line to the cutscenes that hadron I think says brunt's gear is all total garbage and not to expect anything useful

[dense field]

The grey item shop

[zinc talon]

before people just thought they had bad luck

[ember yew]

[zinc talon]

which they did

[prisma sigil]

I don't see this

[zinc talon]

cuz it was and still is rigged

[open echo]

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/armoury-exchange/hcjihmkcnjkfkaeebhnpjcnnibpoolgc?pli=1

[left iron]

Lmao poor

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-lawler-wwf-wrestling-reaction-gif-12409072

[placid fiber]

I wouldn't buy this much from brunt if I was level 25+ lol

[dense field]

I autobuy and autodiscard Brunt's trash

when I want something

[placid fiber]

I only do it when I'm desperate for a specific thing x.x

[placid fiber]

So... how much potential does this thammer have that Hadron is going to completely ruin and break my soul over?

[zinc talon]

not a lot

[prisma sigil]

346 is a pretty low base rating but 41% defence isn't actually a big deal

[zinc talon]

stats are great, thrust 3 will walk hand in hand with you every match every tier

[prisma sigil]

That's a surprisingly phat hammer

[zinc talon]

carapace might not even be necessary

go to the psykanium tier 5 practice arena

and smack the crushers with your hardest hitting stuff

[placid fiber]

I mean if I got t4 slaughterer or headtaker, and maybe 25% flak as the 2nd blessing and perk...?

[left iron]

Lmaoo nice collection though

[zinc talon]

heh

I will trade you 2 diamond for 1 plasteel

[left iron]

I, uh

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[left iron]

Have 120k diamantine

[zinc talon]

my offer still stands

[left iron]

Sure why not

Im sure diamantine will be useful eventually

[dense field]

Soon it will be very useful

[mystic ether]

forgot about this one and it works good enough for my needs currently. some people mentioned slaughterer and skullcrusher. If I'm going to be running with this on a shroudfield setup, I'm thinking slaughterer is what I want right? Too much stagger after a minute isn't needed for me I feel.

[zinc talon]

well I was gonna do some art of the deal meme but I can't find one without trump's saggy skinsuit as the picture

[dense field]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[zinc talon]

and I aint bringin that vibe into the channel

but

art of the deal

[zinc talon]

a thing to know about skullcrusher

[left iron]

Slaughterer or headtaker

[zinc talon]

it will lay stacks every hit on every enemy hit

but if the enemy you're hitting right now isn't in the process of stagger-ing

they do not apply

[mystic ether]

Sort of like um

what's that shit in vt2

smiter or something

[zinc talon]

yeah

so skullcrusher pairs best with high impact opening attacks

[mystic ether]

Weird that that's a whole ass blessing but whatever.

[zinc talon]

to give you the time while they're laid out to kill em before they get back on their feet

so to best utilize it, you'd need to modify your muscle memory to make your opening gambit an attack that lays out as many targets as you need to lay out

[mystic ether]

Less worried about the possibility of whatever I'm fighting getting back up at that point. If I'm not doing it someone else will pretty quickly. Currently getting more solid at sitting around in heresy before I move my kits into damnation and finally aurics.

[zinc talon]

with the space after that action to follow up with big heavy nukes

headtaker's much less frantic in that regard

[mystic ether]

so whatever is new now especially after these difficulty upticks idk

[zinc talon]

yep my metric for success is how quickly can I assplant them, and what % of the time are they dead before they can get back up on their feet

[mystic ether]

Game definitely feels harder with the new spawn rate for lower level content. Heresy kind of feels like where damnation sat at before the overhaul changes.

[zinc talon]

oneshot two tap breakpoints are just sweaty nerd math

lay em out and cast lifen't

[mystic ether]

no idea what aurics feel like these days :U

[zinc talon]

honestly regular maelstroms can be more painful

cuz of the director

aurics are the place to queue though

the orbit of players that're matching there are the cream of the crop

[mystic ether]

I mean, sort of. I honestly just peek at whatever is popular, see what i actually can understand about what is actually gettung the build to work then deviating from that if iut's something flexible.

[zinc talon]

both skill wise and with regards to personality

sure

but for instance

[mystic ether]

I guess. I never put much stake in it by the time I was clearing them semi-consistently solo and regularly with friends.

[zinc talon]

how to tell if you need this damage or that ability on your weapon

OR THIS setup

1. head to meat grinder

2. bonk enemy in question with hardest bonk

[mystic ether]

I know all this stuff ngl

[zinc talon]

3. bonk again with second best

and on down

[prisma sigil]

I'd donate if I could

[zinc talon]

yep I'm just spelling it out for the channel mostly

[mystic ether]

Lemme get like 5k plas and I'm good

[mystic ether]

np

[prisma sigil]

That's like one weapon

[zinc talon]

GOD HOW DO YOU NOT BUY EVERYTHING

THE VENDOR HAS GREENS EVERYH OUR

DO OYU NOT HAV MEEME GEAR

I wouldn't know what to do with that wallet frankly

[prisma sigil]

I got what I need already

[mystic ether]

Usually with this game you don't even need to super eyeball the math if you're the type to just keep practicing how things work out in the psykanium then just burning through things in actual runs when you're already experienced with those scenarios. I pretty much almost never really use the hyper popular stuff (at least soem things since knife stealth builds are pretty common and I like e 🙂 )

[prisma sigil]

I hover around 80k because I buy the gear for a new build and then I play like 30 damnations without spending anything

[zinc talon]

preach

[prisma sigil]

Idk wtf people spend their ordos on

[mystic ether]

even before llearning about really nice blessing combos, I ran like, several weapons that were either "god rolls" or just alternatives to those rolls that worked just as well.

[zinc talon]

I've used the slab almost exclusively since day 1

before it was revamped

before it was revamped again

and I am a crusher afficionado with bolter flamer depending for the zealot

[prisma sigil]

I was gonna try a bunch of new builds but I fell in love with the first one I tried so I havent even tried any new ones since

1h axe, chastise, knives

[mystic ether]

Weapon crisis spending. I do it all the time. You play with one weapon then jump to another then sometimes save weapons over but maybe get something that completely makes that weapon not even worth the investment, spot farming for the consecration pump and hoping you have time to do your melk buck quests.

It's very irritating that progression works like this on average in these kinds of games.

[zinc talon]

heh

[prisma sigil]

Just endlessly charging and spamming light attacks

[zinc talon]

that doesn't compute at all from where I'm sitting

[prisma sigil]

I'm getting fucking carpal tunnel but it's so fun

[zinc talon]

Slab, ripper 6/gauntlet, rock, taunt

[mystic ether]

It's definitely passable. Once you get genuinely deliberate and precise with your combos and all that that's when it gets more interesting with knives.

[prisma sigil]

Nah fuck knives

[zinc talon]

crusher, chainaxes, bolter, flamer, stun, corruption, bible thump for zealot

[mystic ether]

That punch followup is actually really nasty, just takes too long sometimes in shittier clusters.

[prisma sigil]

I use this guys build, I love the stuff he makes

https://youtu.be/fNjFsvrYcT4?si=XgISxbiGwNehgOqR

[zinc talon]

I really wasn't expecting that process for the rock, I'm amazed by just how much room there is for finesse with it

and good god, smite on the psucker

[sullen grotto]

Is the corruption cleansing aura good?

[zinc talon]

I doubt I'll ever even try the other two

[prisma sigil]

And it is a super fun to play build even if it's not super OP

[zinc talon]

I swear by it, yeah

it keeps the team 100% shipshape

[mystic ether]

Only kind of weapon I just care zero fucks for is the heavy sword so far. eventually that power fantasy gets stale for me (even though I'm literally doing the same thing but hohohohoho I go for )backstabs by sharking mobs when I can.

[zinc talon]

and in high tier high intensity runs that can be the difference

it's easy to miss I suppose but just take a look at your purple the next couple elevators out when you finish your missions

[mystic ether]

That's honestly the cooler part of knife builds for me in these games. Same with dual daggers. Although in VT2, dual daggers on kerillian is actually kind of hard. You really not allowed to make a lot of mistakes by comparison to anything safer.

[zinc talon]

everyone's shouldering a quarter, a third of their health in purple without even blinking

it only becomes a concern at like two thirds or more

but corruption aura completely nopes that entire idea

two fuckin thirds of your health, nah

[prisma sigil]

Wait I'm an idiot

For some reason I thought you meant the combat blade

[mystic ether]

I do.

[prisma sigil]

Yeah I love throwing knives

[mystic ether]

I use both.

[prisma sigil]

I love the axe

[mystic ether]

And play shmoovy as hell since that's literally the only way to make knife builds work. need to actually lean into the adhd.

[prisma sigil]

I love that while whacking away at shit I can throw a knife at a problems head

[zinc talon]

stun grenade hijinks squad here

bible thump and stun grenades with a high power output crusher give you like, three nopes a minute you can cash in for 5 to 15 seconds of breathing room

allows you yourself to control the pace of the entire mission for the team

[mystic ether]

I might actually consider taking the totem super since I'm actually making use of crit builds.

[zinc talon]

the melee crit 1.5 sec cooldown with a cleave weapon makes bible thump a joy

just get something quick that can hit 4 targets reliably and quickly

[mystic ether]

I just never gave a shit about it after a sec. Doesn't help that I just don't care about the light magic aesthetics in this game.

[blazing fossil]

lul that boss damage

[zinc talon]

and you can shave 10% off the cooldown timer per swing

[mystic ether]

Get to play my little rinky dink zealous assassin though.

so that's cool

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc talon]

my next yeehaw hooraw is gonna be some bastardized toughness regen loner kiting offtank

yall know if there's a zealot weapon that reaches the 'furthest' in terms of weapon swing reach distance or are they all more or less identical

[mystic ether]

Hilariously enough for me, I have ah ard time thinking of zealot builds since the tree is just that straightforward that I underestimate just how much the class is pumping out on its own

[zinc talon]

the crusher's got some length to it

[mystic ether]

So I actually have been missing out on some cool zealot stuff despite it being my secondary class next to vet.

[zinc talon]

lemme tempt you

[mystic ether]

you can just dump clips of fun stuff

I'm easily impressed most of hte time.

Bonus points for anything running shroudfield.

[mystic ether]

what's this for?

[zinc talon]

the middle is dealer's choice

but that at the top and bottom

[mystic ether]

Is this meant to be a skeleton that works with the broad spectrum of melee weapons and whatever ranged stuff that's functional?

[zinc talon]

it's meant to be a max movement speed max stacking damage crit build for weapons that take a swing or two to ramp up anyway

[mystic ether]

I actually enjoy momentum but piety pulls ahead for safer, equally as fun builds.

[zinc talon]

things that use rampage, headtaker, skullcrusher

plus you're sitting at 65% crit or more depending on the weapon

so gear that enjoys large increases to weakspot and crit suddenly benefit from both of those mostly underused perks

like the crusher, evis, chain axes

prolly your axe too

[mystic ether]

I'd probably be tempted to run this with a chainaxe/sword or eviscerator. So far the only gun that I have that's working atm with what I got is my revolver.

[shy river]

What melees are people using with momentum anyways, I haven't really experimented with that node yet

[mystic ether]

I mostly flip between combat knives and the two thunder hammers. For the thunder hammers especially, taking the thrust blessing and ramping your opening shroudfield dmg with a fully charged, powered up heavy attack just, fucks most monstrosities and isolated major threats.

And outside of shroudfield, having a solid setup of perks and blessings for the thunder hammers in general feels good. It's funny too when you just run up out of nowhere and send a mauler or crusher into a wall or off into an abyss.

[crude lake]

Evis is also fine for momentum

The first hit procs momentum, from there you just go ham.

I pretty much play exclusively crit builds now, they’re just so strong.

[mystic ether]

Never tried it most of my eviscerator experience is the pre-overhaul zealot so martyrdom interactions and all that.

Love the weapon, just haven't done anything different with one.

[crude lake]

Shroudfield and chorus are fun every now and then

[mystic ether]

Shroudfield eviscerator isn't something I'd say is the move but it's certainly a move. Looks cool in my head too. 😎

[zinc talon]

^these are the recent picks that meshed really well with the setup I';m describing

a high finesse 1h chainsword prolly shines too I just don't get much time in the seat with one

[crude lake]

The name of that axe made me laugh

[zinc talon]

because of all the damage increases you're double and triple dipping on

[crude lake]

A chainsword is nuts in crit builds

[zinc talon]

well I'm just gonna say it

[crude lake]

It 1 shots muties, mows through hordes and does incredible boss damage.

Weapon is crazy good

[mystic ether]

It definitely wasn't what it felt like before.

Which is great. Ugh...

[zinc talon]

a max finesse, max pen high damage standard mobility dump shredder Xiiiiig

with both weak spot and critical damage increases

then rely on shred and bleed to get you critting

and aim face

use the cleave loops

l1 l2 h3 and push attack h3 l l l l l

save shredder for just when you need to freeze an enemy or nuke a boss

fuck it I'm building one

[crude lake]

Chain sword is easy too, just H1 H2. Special action if you need to 1 shot a mutie

[dense field]

You're missing 10% movement speed from swift certainty

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/krach-boursier-calculate-monkey-silly-gif-14808948

[dense field]

dat's me

[mystic ether]

You do get the speed from it, very true.

[zinc talon]

oh from movement?

[mystic ether]

Speed zealot gaming.

[zinc talon]

I'm also sorely lacking that 10% sprint and dodge

[blazing fossil]

i legit hate these hammers

[lean lark]

you're also lacking second wind

[zinc talon]

transcend to crusher

[lean lark]

which you could get by sacrificing 20% infested and unyielding dmg + emperor's bullet or whatever the one above purge the unclean is

you would also get more toughness out of it

[zinc talon]

nah

I'd swap off backstab entirely

[mystic ether]

Busy stm but drop a talent spread so I can see what that'd look like.

I'm absolutely the type to have a bunch of stacked movement. As long as I'm not falling behind with my dmg output I see speed as a resource pool because I'm goofy like that.

It has nothing to do with me being a dex fiend and just playing a lot of movement-oriented games

[zinc talon]

and keep my damage

[fiery ingot]

i used to think rashad was my favorite weapon in this game

until my eyes have been opened to crusher

[fading vale]

rashad is just so damn boring

and unengaging

[hushed agate]

Ive been using marty on my support flamer build can flamer do good with a crit build? Ive been thinking of switching to left keystone

[fiery ingot]

its

complicated

its satisfying because you're beheading everything in your way

[fading vale]

keystone doesn't really change much with flamer, technically crit will stack burn a little faster

a crit on flamer is 2 burn stacks instead of 1

[hushed agate]

Thats not horrible. Does flamer have any crit blessings?

[mystic ether]

I'm still waiting on a juicy one

[fading vale]

flamer doesn't interact with crits other than double burn stacks on a tick

[fiery ingot]

it kinda ticks on the neuron activation in me whenever i pop a head with rashad and it feels amazingly good. but i understand how it can be seen as boring. i like when you have multiple combo options such as crusher

[zinc talon]

just might be crazy enough to work

it's gonna go really smoothly

[north sedge]

The only keystone that affects ranged directly is momentum

[mystic ether]

Crusher is the closest I got to a polearm in this game so I'll take it.

[zinc talon]

or really poorly

really quickly

[fading vale]

I just don't like spammy stuff really

[mystic ether]

Still waiting on a spear weapon

[fading vale]

I wanna like..... try and engage with a weapon

[hushed agate]

Oh ok ill stick with marty then. Its hard to pass up on the survivability

[fading vale]

piety buffs ranged crit which I would call direct

[zinc talon]

the only weapon I've found that comes close to the fluidity and number of combos you can build into your muscle memory as the crusher is maybe the Xig

and I haven't put enough time in the seat yet

[dense field]

🤔

[mystic ether]

Just be obsessed with micro adjustments to only land weakspot hits and filter out the rest :^)

[north sedge]

I mean more overtly, ranged dmg and attack speed, people always overlook that part of it

[hushed agate]

Why no modifiers?

[fiery ingot]

in vermintide i used to play only the spammable melee weapons and it was fun, until i got boring of axe and falchion, sword and mace and double hammers and decided more based weapons, so i understand completely how it is. i think its only a matter of time until i get to that same stage again in this game

[royal vortex]

momentum still having the unlisted dodge buffs is so funny

[hushed agate]

Wait what?

[dense field]

No reason

[fading vale]

and this is why I love hammer

[placid fiber]

Just did a damnation vent purge on hab dreyko my friend(the 2nd player) would have done better, but, their game crashed like 3 times that run :/

[zinc talon]

I got some footage of tearing through the psykanium with the crusher in 1st and 3rd person and explaining a couple lil tricks to a youngin earlier tonight

[mystic ether]

What's this for?

[desert vessel]

Is this build okay? anything notable I can improve? I cant decide if I should dump sustained assault and purge the unclean and spend those 4 points getting second wind instead. Using XV evis

[lean lark]

w-w-w-w-whaaaatt!!!!!! how is that possible! my m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 weapon isnt engaging???

[dense field]

Speed and critical cdr

[lean lark]

how fucking dare you.

[mystic ether]

Ironhelm does scratch that nicely

[zinc talon]

crush-fu educational videos begin here

[placid fiber]

I think you can excuse somewhat lower damage if they are disconnecting for like... 5-8 minutes of the 27 minute run lol

[hushed agate]

Why am i not suprised

[fading vale]

naw, ironhelm you don't even have to learn the special, crucis you have to learn a lot

[golden anchor]

Honestly Crusher is just stack stam regen and spam pushstabs for single target, and lights spam or light>heavy2 for horde

[royal vortex]

ironhelm is super basic and functions like a less fluid psword with more accessible boss damage

[placid fiber]

Yeah, this legitimately just answers almost EVERY scenario with charged heavy 1/2...

[golden anchor]

Push stab is just glaive heavy attack from VT2, and just as good except the dmg on the first swing is pretty high

[mystic ether]

Ah, I actually use all the combinations when I can just because

[royal vortex]

it's a shame because if it had like

[placid fiber]

It's nice when my brain is very fried, but, a bit boring otherwise

[royal vortex]

holy greathammer from vt2's moveset it'd be cool

[fiery ingot]

funnily enough, kerillian is the only character that i didnt like playing as

[golden anchor]

Darktide hammers feel like ass compared to vt2 hammers though

[mystic ether]

Dang...

[olive raven]

Tbh I would get that but that’s just me

Also idk if the evis benefits greatly from duelist or not so

[faint marsh]

best blessings for combat axe?

[fiery ingot]

not a fan of her quick paced weapons

[placid fiber]

The ONLY thing I slightly like about the ironhelm is the heavy 3 can answer a miniscule amount of scenarios >.>

[royal vortex]

headtaker/bm

[fiery ingot]

tho i did enjoy the shield and spear

[royal vortex]

deci is fine in place of headtaker but it's less consistent

[fading vale]

I hate the ironhelms overhead, it's so out of place

[dense field]

Brutal Momentum and Headtaker

[placid fiber]

Otherwise I take it for skissue(aka ease of use)

[faint marsh]

thank you

[mystic ether]

Hm?

[fading vale]

why does the cleave hammer have a heavy overhead

[placid fiber]

It's more that I like the idea of it, rather than having it

[fading vale]

makes no sense

[royal vortex]

it would be fine if less of its power budget was placed in the activation

[placid fiber]

It gives a random noob an option in a sticky situation that could pay off

[royal vortex]

and it was a hammer more focused on normals for different targets

[blazing fossil]

lol, love using chastise to rush a crusher only to slap a bruiser instead

going back to HS6

[fading vale]

it's impossible to miss a crusher wdym

[fiery ingot]

relatable

[fading vale]

you just gotta learn to aim the hammer

[royal vortex]

use them LEGS brother

jump

[fading vale]

is not a braindead weapon

[blazing fossil]

the boss damage is the only nice thing about this thammer, I can 1 shot mutants on my sword

[fading vale]

yes the hsword is ridiculously strong and mutants are paper

one day they will figure out balance

[mystic ether]

Fair. I'm already an elf enjoyer and she was unique kind of annoying from what I lack in exposure.

Most fun I've had in the game next to like...idk bounty hunter and hunter classes

[zinc talon]

I mean I get a lot more out of the weapon than that

[olive raven]

HS6 on top fr fr

[fading vale]

today is not that day

[zinc talon]

but if you didn't mesh you didn't mesh

[mystic ether]

Oh and now necromancer

[mystic ether]

God I love that class

[royal vortex]

if they just... lowered the fkin melee damage taken modifier on muties

[fiery ingot]

i havent played after the new updates but saw chocob playing with necro. seemed pretty fun to play tbh

[mystic ether]

I made my necromancer kind of boring though to just learn the flow of the class with a more generalist build

[royal vortex]

literally all they have to do

[zinc talon]

I played ironbreaker exclusively, and when someone wanted to play bardin I was handmaiden/spear max nimbleness offtank

[royal vortex]

and its less cancer

[fading vale]

what if instead like 10 different melees 1 shot them for free or had speedy 2 shots

[golden anchor]

lol Ironbreakers

where the slayer mains at

[mystic ether]

More power to u. Ib is fun..until its not

For me at least

[royal vortex]

allow us to design a special designed around being tanky in terms of raw hp values and then make the majority of weapons shred them like paper

very cool

[mystic ether]

Tanking has it charm. But the speed...

[golden anchor]

Use gromril to face tank overheads for free

and keep on swingin

[mystic ether]

The (usual) lack of dmg

[fading vale]

muties becoming a non threat was very sad

[zinc talon]

is it really any wonder my character usage in darktide, knowing that

[fiery ingot]

i loved hunter. but i was really bad with it. i completed almost every job in the game (except for kerillian shade waystalker and the dlc one) on legend with bots only and hunter was by far my most sweating one

[mystic ether]

Hunter is hard if you're building bigger ranged dmg

[fading vale]

based non veteran enjoyer

[golden anchor]

hunter as in huntsman or BH

[mystic ether]

Longbow/spear

Huntsman

[golden anchor]

oh, huntsman is goated with repeater

[fiery ingot]

oh yeah huntsman

[mystic ether]

Bh is fun because well duh

Gun

[golden anchor]

basically darktide simulator with repeater lol

[fiery ingot]

bh was fun as hell with those gryphon pistols

[mystic ether]

I am no longer interested in your fantasies. Gunpowder baptism

Gun

[fiery ingot]

outcast engineer

[golden anchor]

Still waiting for Fatshark to give zealot a talent to drop their ranged weapon for a 2nd melee weapon

[fiery ingot]

the only bardin job that i didnt like at all

[zinc talon]

mage tank battle wizard

get in everything's face and don't get hit

only one thing to do

simple

[mystic ether]

Bh+oe...dude

The shooting

I can still hear it lmao

Merc kruber, bh, oe and idk fuckin some kind of fire sienna

Bang boom team

[fiery ingot]

bro bardin ranger veteran with that broken boss melter pistol of his was such a nightmare for friendly fire

[golden anchor]

masterwork pistol fan the hammer

[fiery ingot]

i killed many teammates and caused many wipes on cata with that shit

but merc and ranger vet were my favorites always

that dlc longsowrd move set was nuts

[blazing fossil]

whats dump stat on bolter? reload speed?

[golden anchor]

Unchained memes lol, Damage taken is the most important green circle to chase

[zinc talon]

I hopped on on a total lark testing out nvidia's geforce now service

I came in halfway through a 5 in morr's garden I Think and only took 40 damage through to the end playing highschoolgirlfriend ironbreaker

[fiery ingot]

is that chaos wastes?

[zinc talon]

but man that game

idk if I can go back to it

there's no fucking SPRINT

[golden anchor]

think it was, but you can sort of do it in normal cata as well

[zinc talon]

THERES NO SLIDE OR CROUCH HOW DID WE NOT NOTICE THIS

[fiery ingot]

i dont think you can get past 500 total kills for everyone on cata

at least i dont remember having that much

[golden anchor]

Unchained ult from 0% ult is only 70% of your heatlh bar, so you just run flame sword and pimp slap your way to full white health

and explode again lol

Think my record was like 4k dmg taken on normal cata

[fiery ingot]

yeah unchained is nutty but pretty hard to learn too

[crude lake]

The whole game feels bad

[fiery ingot]

oh did you see the last patch notes?

they updated the game last week i think and nerfed a lot of the meta stuff

[golden anchor]

BW finally getting put in her place?

[fiery ingot]

and buffed some

[golden anchor]

it's still pretty good lol

[fiery ingot]

yep

[crude lake]

It feels clunky after playing Darktide for so long, I miss VT2 but I need it to be updated to match DTs smoothness

[fiery ingot]

still got to login to get the free cosmetic tho

[golden anchor]

they did not need to buff WP though

[fiery ingot]

best we can hope for is a vt3

[fiery ingot]

i dont remember. wasnt it a minor buff or something?

[zinc talon]

VT2 feels like going from super nintendo or n64 back to mario brothers on the NES.

just.

[crude lake]

Please!

[zinc talon]

mario.

no franchise no nothing

[fiery ingot]

i prefer the other jobs over wp for victor, but in chaos wastes he's pretty goated

[zinc talon]

the all or nothing nature of push blocking

[fiery ingot]

man i miss that

[frosty herald]

Vt2 and darktide are different games

[fiery ingot]

maybe thats why im liking crusher so much

[zinc talon]

although darktide could stand to learn from how silly useless block is in this title for a vast vast overwhelming majority of situations

oh

yall

just to make sure everyone's playing at the same speed

when your stamina hits 0%, and something hits you and shatters your guard

that's not the end of your blocking

it then becomes a quick time event

where every further block re-breaks your guard, but if you time your rmb to get it back up in time

you can essentially block forever at 0% stamina

[fiery ingot]

wait wat

[zinc talon]

you just have to reset your guard after every hit

[sour sierra]

Huh?

[fiery ingot]

as in

[golden anchor]

mash it after you get guard broken basically lol

[fiery ingot]

oh

[sour sierra]

U can still get hit

If ur stamina breaks in vt2

[fiery ingot]

oh you're talking about vt2

[sour sierra]

Try to tank a vermin patrol lmao and see how effective block spamming is

[fiery ingot]

i thought you were talking about dt for some reason

[golden anchor]

just run a dual melee class and put parry on both weapons lol

spam swap=infinite block

don't recommend that actually but parry is pretty good in vt2 for the dual melee classes

swift slaying on 1 weap and parry on the other

[zinc talon]

nope

I meant here in darktide

[fiery ingot]

so you are talking about dt

[zinc talon]

yis

[golden anchor]

doesn't feel as applicable because cant block mauler overheads in this game lol

[sour sierra]

Parry is useless if ur class or boon doesnt play around it

[zinc talon]

and just for that reason

[golden anchor]

although I guess if you run around like a monkey you'll be at lower stamina

[zinc talon]

I made sure to include a crusher

to show how you can

[golden anchor]

zzz shield

gtfo with that shit lol

[steep flame]

tarkov arena is fun

bsg finally makes a fun game

[golden anchor]

also with shield you can just brace anyways

[zinc talon]

nobody's bracing these days, carol

I just happened to be on okri, the same thing can be done on hatch with the crusher

[hushed agate]

I brace

[golden anchor]

brace jump is a pretty funny meme lol

[hushed agate]

Nerd

[fiery ingot]

i know nothing about ogryns and their weapons except that i want to build one to make it look like riddick but how does that works exactly? you like spam block when your stam gets depleted and you end up blocking without being staggered by blocking at 0 stam?

[golden anchor]

jump forward and spam brace is free way to block while moving in on gunners

[zinc talon]

yeah sugu

the same mechanic is at play for every class

[fiery ingot]

oh thats nuts

[zinc talon]

it's just the shield does a better job of soaking damage

you can see a couple times I blocked crusher overheads with very lil to no stamina

[onyx solar]

what are the ideal blessings for a columnus iag?

deathspitter and dumdum?

[zinc talon]

because I timed the block

[zinc talon]

sprinting ranged immunity is super handy

[fiery ingot]

interesting, so it works like a parry of sorts then

[golden anchor]

Dumdum+fire frenzy/deathspitter for damage, stripped down is good for mobility

Columnus just good out of the box though

[fiery ingot]

if only i were good at parrying

[onyx solar]

gotcha

[fiery ingot]

id play sekiro

[onyx solar]

sekiro trains you to parry

you'll be so good at parrying you'll do it while shopping

[fiery ingot]

and beat malenia with a lvl 1 naked character

[onyx solar]

watch it when the cashier hands you your change..

[fleet zealot]

you already avoid ranged fire while sprinting at an angle as long as you don't have 0 stam

stripped down is more for sheer speed or I guess dead running into shooter rooms

[zinc talon]

it's also useful for when you start to get shot up

and can just nyooom away

back to behind the melee squadmates

[north sedge]

🤔

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/gruss-daniel-gruss-gruss-shrug-shrug-scs-gif-25190074

[fiery ingot]

do you also count as sprinting for the purpose of meeting the proc requirement of that blessing when you sprint slide?

[zinc talon]

already getting incoming fire at the corner you're about to round? nyoom across the street to cover and begin again

[fleet zealot]

double tap dodge or slide

[golden anchor]

you already take no ranged damage while sliding so spamming slide probably just extends your invuln period to geting shot

[golden anchor]

since you conserve stamina while sliding

[fiery ingot]

oh you dont take damage while sliding? i never noticed it before

[fleet zealot]

until it is done

[fiery ingot]

yet i still spam slides

[golden anchor]

not ranged damage

[onyx solar]

that's bloody beautiful

[frozen ibex]

Aye double bleed man.

[fiery ingot]

ahh that explains it then

[fiery ingot]

new video when 👀

[golden anchor]

Was good like last year when bleed procc'd bleed

[frozen ibex]

Shame not t4 flesh tearer but

[golden anchor]

never got to use that before but that was a funi interaction

Classic fatshark competency

[frozen ibex]

Idk been memeing with some weird builds but they are not that good (heavy sword)

[onyx solar]

infinibleed was the best of times, it was the worst of times

[golden anchor]

the amount of knife zealots running around thinking they were good with it

[zinc talon]

my slide key is unbound

[golden anchor]

(sort of like now tbh so nothing has changed)

[frozen ibex]

Double bleed give me better horde clear than 1 bleed 1 uncanny.

But worse damage against crushers and maulers.

[zinc talon]

I have returned to crabbe

sidestep hustle mission start to ride back

[zinc talon]

how long is horde realistically staying alive from first moment they're in swinging range to dead

[fleet zealot]

"better horde clear"

[zinc talon]

chances are, it's only a few seconds' difference

given everyone's swinging away too

[frozen ibex]

Yeah and you can crit a few times then move on.

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[zinc talon]

a good way to decide this is to go into the t5 meat grinder

with your weapon as is

[fleet zealot]

or just get debuff counter mod

[zinc talon]

and whallop a damnation crusher hard as you can

and see if it falls short or not

[fleet zealot]

so you know when you hit 16 stacks

[frozen ibex]

1 crit with double bleed blessing will kill all elites barring melee elites.

[zinc talon]

if they have less than 25% health, swap to carapace and you have your answer

[frozen ibex]

So you can dive elite shooters horde.

Crit dreg/scab gunner once then move to the next.

[zinc talon]

doesn't that mean they're dead on the next melee swing anyway

all I'm saying is the determinant here is how long they're bleeding for

I submit that it is not long enough to warrant the opportunity cost

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cute-aww-glasses-tired-gif-13327385

[frozen ibex]

No they won't die if it's another knife hit.

I know this chat hate bleed knife but.

It works.

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[frozen ibex]

Top damage top plasteels double bleed blessings.

The other zealot uncanny flesh tearer.

[zinc talon]

people love to shout in this channel that overpressure is somehow broken

and I don't like blaze away beceause it encorages you to waste fuel

since, yknow, you totally asked me to critique your gear

[frozen ibex]

I didn't but thanks.

[golden anchor]

damn wtf was that voidstrike guy doing lol

[zinc talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184184186530189472/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.24.23.52.mp4?ex=659446f7&is=6581d1f7&hm=508b72e7d208f015ea9443b3fd61b26c81c120cf00ae6f43f475d07dc5c26475&
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[frozen ibex]

I don't hold down left click to build up blaze away. Only when flaming monster.

[zinc talon]

ugh

[frozen ibex]

For horde I do short bursts.

[zinc talon]

oh good

[frozen ibex]

2 guys rage quitted before he joined late.

[zinc talon]

so^ I did a series of videos on the flamer a lilbit ago

how to do more damage with less fuel type stuff

[north sedge]

Blaze away is only for elite packs and boss

[frozen ibex]

You only need like 4 or 5 fuel ammo to kill a horde.

[golden anchor]

ah lol

[zinc talon]

thread with written explanation of the tricks I'm blowing yall's minds with here^

[north sedge]

You just spray with a few ammo, that's it.

[naive star]

Combat Knife Mk 3 vs Mk 6 differences? Id have nice Mk 6 in store now

[zinc talon]

or lean into the fan the flames revamp

and coat the hall or room quickly

then puff puff puff to keep everything cowering and suppressed or on the floor writhing

the flamer is also an excellent way to shut down medium ranged everything while you close the gap to engage in melee

on the second puff most all ranged specials are jostled enough to stop shooting

and standard infantry just sit down and go nuuuuuu nunununuuuuuuuublarg

[fiery ingot]

can you heal an enemy with health boosters?

[zinc talon]

don't sleep on left click to get you across the room to stab shooters

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-commissar-tzeentch-confused-gif-26391578

[fiery ingot]

just curious

[onyx solar]

sometimes you just feel bad for the nurgle beast..

[fiery ingot]

what would happen if i inject the damage stimm on the plague ogryn

can you do that tho?

apply stimms to npcs?

[onyx solar]

he immediately calms down and hugs you

[fading vale]

flamer left click staggers everything except crushers even without fan

[placid fiber]

Does anyone know in the code if it says that ogryn's shovels get attack speed from crowd control?

Attack speed isn't listed in the in game inspection on the stat, for some weapons

but who tf knows what fatshark did, they don't seem to care too deeply about how they word it and how they code it xD

[north sedge]

Immeasurably complex

[placid fiber]

omg, I didn't know this and I find it hilarious... the Ogryns gorgon's melee swing attack counts as a heavy attack and applies the 4 bleed stacks from heavies

This is the non-edited version lol

Even the gun barrel bleeds people! 😮

[fading vale]

cheez its are dope

[placid fiber]

It's a pretty fast attack so you could use it in a pinch

I wonder... I'm gonna test it with a attack speed stim and my ogryn charge attack speed

[north sedge]

All the gun melee attacks are heavies on ogryn

[blazing fossil]

only the extra crispy kind

[placid fiber]

Meh still pretty slow

[north sedge]

White cheddar

[blazing fossil]

wtf is this new psyker helm, looks like a space helmet

[lean lark]

toilet bowl

[fading vale]

I wonder what @hushed knoll has to say about cheez its

[placid fiber]

Is there a way to make the gorgon swing faster?

[north sedge]

I await a probably horrifying take

[hushed knoll]

I LOVE CHEESE ITS

I LOVE SUCKING ON THEM

[placid fiber]

Can't seem to find any way to switch so that it reset the animation

[north sedge]

Welp

[royal vortex]

i prefer cheese it is

tbh

[fading vale]

theres your horrifying take

[north sedge]

Yea

[placid fiber]

Okay... I was with stan until this abonimation talk started....

[blazing fossil]

Take cheez its, shredded cheese and salsa, microwave for a short time, thank me later

[placid fiber]

Now I'm moving as far the fuck away from Stan as possible irl xD

[blazing fossil]

redneck nachos

[fading vale]

what the fuck

[blazing fossil]

try it

[fading vale]

no

[placid fiber]

@hushed knoll Stan, let me put it nicely to you. Just like me, sometimes you just have to know when not to say what is on your mind. I have this problem as well where I shouldn't say what is on my mind <.<'

[placid fiber]

That's more cursed than having 2 Vets...

[placid fiber]

He's... ||making his lover give birth to christmas||...?

[fleet zealot]

what in the god damn

[placid fiber]

I spoilered that because it might be a bit too much

[hushed knoll]

Sharing is caring

[fading vale]

can we not ignore the horror of putting salsa on cheez its and microwaving it

[royal vortex]

i would like to

[fleet zealot]

hoyl fuck

im sick asf

[onyx solar]

it just sounds like nachos with less steps

[blazing fossil]

And real cheese

[fleet zealot]

literally

[placid fiber]

So should I tell you about the war between the snow penguins and water buffalo?! 😮

[fleet zealot]

someone end me

[blazing fossil]

It’s Midwest nachos

[fleet zealot]

roommates nurgle'd me for christmas and didn't tell me till last night

[placid fiber]

I didn't go very far cuz both sides were lazy af.

The end

[fleet zealot]

midwest my ass

[placid fiber]

lol

[fleet zealot]

middle of nowhere nachos

[royal vortex]

middle of hell nachos

[onyx solar]

same thing

[fleet zealot]

it ain't exactly hard to find or make corn chips in the midwest

or make, actual nachos

[placid fiber]

What do you think about "the war between the snow penguins and water buffalo", Lazor?

[fading vale]

have you ever seen how far penguins can fly and how fast they go

[frozen ibex]

MFW I try to finish the mission fast for contract and get this.

[placid fiber]

But Lazorrr they are snow penguins, know why? >:3

[onyx solar]

but the benefit of cheez it nachos is that you can tell everyone on discord you made them and start a discussion

[placid fiber]

Cause they live in the snow!!!!

[fleet zealot]

some of my roommates family came over and handed out presents except they knew they were sick so know i'm sick cause it circulated around ot me

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-griffin-gone-crazy-insane-letter-l-gif-17135412

[fleet zealot]

and I couldn't even prep

[placid fiber]

And Lazorr... did you know... Water Buffalo

Don't live in arazona or florida

[fleet zealot]

arazona

[placid fiber]

[onyx solar]

florada

[placid fiber]

w/e

[blazing fossil]

I’d like to eat a water buffalo

[fading vale]

they live in the water

[blazing fossil]

With cheez its

[placid fiber]

They're partial to hungario, bulgario, and uh... um... Canada.

[onyx solar]

nad microwaved

[fading vale]

hungario

[onyx solar]

canadia

[placid fiber]

Good guess, but, they fly across the sky like graceful birds. :3

[fading vale]

bulgario

[onyx solar]

now i want bulgogi

[hushed knoll]

Sure

[placid fiber]

They also eat pelicans <.<'

[fading vale]

@north sedge wheres the quote

[placid fiber]

Not seagulls, that's the snow penguins that eat them <_<'

[hushed knoll]

I don’t microwave it

[onyx solar]

"

[fading vale]

there was someone else that said they microwave cheez its shredded cheese and salsa

[hushed knoll]

I mean it sounds fine

Warm salsa is good

[fading vale]

no

[placid fiber]

So, what do you think about the "creatures" I made up in the past and then put some history together for? >_>'

[fading vale]

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-laugh-laughing-willem-dafoe-evil-gif-4145161

[north sedge]

I had to dig deep into the archives for that one

[blazing fossil]

Thanks Stan 🍻

[fading vale]

I don't know how to respond to 90% of the shit you say tbh

[blazing fossil]

I was about to make some but realized I only have better cheddars

[placid fiber]

I know, if you can't tell I have impulsive thoughts which are throughts that randomly come and go and I can just push out of my head on a whim. :3

[keen silo]

guys im disappointed with the blessings
can i save this any how

[placid fiber]

I also have invasive thoughts.... those... fucking suck <.<'

[fading vale]

sprint to maniac and thrust to BM and it's workable

[desert vessel]

abhor the mutant can be done with fury of the faithful right?

[fading vale]

yes

[placid fiber]

My adhd makes me impulsive which makes me want to type something and I sometimes type the first thing that comes to my head... which tbh is kinda scary based on what I sometimes type >,<'

[keen silo]

decimator is that bad?

[fading vale]

no, just don't miss

[keen silo]

oh swinging hits removes the chain i see

[placid fiber]

Tell that to my aim, even when I forcefully try to correct my aim I somehow aiming further off sometimes >_>'

My hands are a bit shaky tho, normally... erm not shaky, jittery

[onyx solar]

see with my adhd, my jitters come from the pure volume of caffeine i consume to function normally

[hushed knoll]

I love licked sop so much

Pickles

[vivid condor]

rolled up a new heavy laspistol, what should be changed on this?

[hushed knoll]

DOUGHHHHH

[north sedge]

That new phone has improved your typing so much

[hushed knoll]

I’m drinking manias

Marisa’s

Mimosas

SHIT IT

SHUT

[vivid condor]

like I know dumdum is good, but is infernus still good?

[fading vale]

I'd swap reload and infernus

[hushed knoll]

Hi Laz

[fading vale]

infernus to raking or ghost

and reload to flak or maniac

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/marisa-sf6-sf6-street-fighter6-street-fighter-marisa-gif-27438410

[vivid condor]

damn, was hoping burn stacks were still good

burn and bleed would've been a nice combo on bosses

[fading vale]

well it's also that it's a slower firing laspistol and also infernus is only for bosses in general

[hushed knoll]

Have you ever salted eggplants

[fading vale]

Hi

[north sedge]

Yes

[vivid condor]

I'm running a combat knife zealot with it, so I guess it might not be the best combo

[fading vale]

I only sugar my eggplants

[hushed knoll]

We wtf

Ew

[fading vale]

wdym

[hushed knoll]

Why would you out sugar on eggplant

[fading vale]

I meant I give them lots of love

[hushed knoll]

Put

What

How do you give eggplants love

[fading vale]

giving them sugar

[north sedge]

🍆💦

[fading vale]

I'm sorry I started this

[south folio]

dum bith