zealot-class

[fading vale]

nice for bulwarks and..... yeah

[lavish flame]

And for that use agri shotty

Faster swap

[twin wagon]

hi grawr

[lavish flame]

Hello

[ripe quest]

It definitely needs a buff. I still like the idea of doubling base damage and halving adms as a side thing.

[fading vale]

I mean agri isnt going to quickly kill multiple bulwarks

[lavish flame]

Bolter? Nah

On vet its solid AF

[ripe quest]

Only shotgun great for Bulwarks is Kant. Agri is very slow at it.

[twin wagon]

Agri let's you open the bulwark and throw a knife at em

[gray ice]

@ripe quest https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SzzJKYBZyewzn_CiumRmSBfpDEt1j5XM6kz5RNP1_bg/edit#heading=h.ue5vkomjj17w

Now that I'm back home, the guide has had all listings put up. Might actually be done within the next couple days

[lavish flame]

Agri opens them for melee and knife

[twin wagon]

Or open them up for more efficient plasma shots from vet

[ripe quest]

As a DMR sure, but half the functionality of Boltgun is objectively worse due to the blessing interactions it has.

[fading vale]

they just need separate bolters for vet and zealot

[twin wagon]

yes

[lean lark]

i disagree

[twin wagon]

Give zealot a homemade bolter

[lean lark]

but im not gonna bother bashing my criticism

[twin wagon]

Or a combi bolter flamer, that could be fun

[lavish flame]

Half the functionality is ass cos its not ammo efficient

[fading vale]

I loved bolter when you could use it as a shotgun rather well

now it's just gonna kill fewer things than literally any other gun

[lavish flame]

The fullauto is just bad by design

[fading vale]

and run out of ammo faster

[lavish flame]

More bolter variants

Duh

[tall palm]

give us the godwyn fatshark

[ripe quest]

DANG that's crazy it's like it needs a buff to it because half it's functionality is ass 💀

[fading vale]

also if they deleted player suppression from the game entirely that would be great

[twin wagon]

Combi bolter/flamer when, what if our zealots want to snort promethium after unloading into a patrol

[dense field]

If that new variant will be good on zealot it's gonna be even better on vet lol

But yeah

More variants more gooder

[ripe quest]

There was a datamined blessing that turned the rounds into cleaving pellet ones iirc.

[twin wagon]

I think player suppression would be fine if it didn't affect throwing knives

Or if gunners couldn't still stun players

[lavish flame]

No cos the other half is solid

[tall palm]

if we were to get any bolter variants im thinking it'd be a pistol

[lavish flame]

Thats like saying revolver needs a buff cos the pistol whip is ass

Or helbore needs a buff cos the hipfire is ass

[fading vale]

has there ever been a player that is like, wow this random bullshit wiggling when I ADS is fun and engaging

[twin wagon]

Anything that makes cover useful is somethint I enjoy

It's been ages since I had to take cover outside of psyker...

[tall palm]

a bolt pistol would be kinda shit seeing as in lore they only hold like 8 rounds a mag

[lavish flame]

Tbf the guns i prefer dont suffer from suppression much

So i cant comment

[tall palm]

forget i mentioned it

[fading vale]

how does it make cover useful?

[ripe quest]

That is the most braindead comparison I've seen, the full auto part of the Boltgun 100% is similar to the melee special attack on a ranged weapon

yes

totes

[lavish flame]

Helbore hipfire then?

[twin wagon]

Gunners loose interest after shooting at a crate for a bit and retarget

That is assuming the cover is working...

It doesn't even for min size psyker on occasion

[fading vale]

I would never ever play like that, nobody really uses cover and half the time you get shot through it

I'll just run at them with things that don't get suppressed or melee them

[twin wagon]

That is the bigger issue
When cover works then they can increase shooter and gunner numbers heavily as well as buff shotgunners back to dangerous levels

or introduce the beta ambushes...

[lavish flame]

Ngl i dont mind suppression that much.

But i also dont use the MG12

[twin wagon]

It shouldn't affect throwing knives

[fading vale]

it just makes specific guns feel really terrible unless you are a vet

which is pointless

[ripe quest]

That weapon is a slow firing precision weapon. It hits hard and doesn't get a mechanics change when hipfiring, so you want the ADS for the accuracy. Boltgun has a damage dump on the hipfire, less accuracy and control for far higher DPS. The ADS is for precision. It's not a comparable weapon for this.

[lavish flame]

Bolter is... a precision weapon with an emergency mag dump

It hits as hard as precision weapons

[ripe quest]

Exactly.

That's what I'm saying

[surreal solstice]

Wait, it does?
I didn't notice

[lavish flame]

Emergency mag dump

[ripe quest]

I don't see an emergency magdump on a helbore

[lavish flame]

It does that job fine

A poorly aimed mag dump still stops you from getting pasted by a single crusher

[dense field]

Bayo

[lavish flame]

Working as intended

[tall palm]

blessings for the revolver?

the og one

[lavish flame]

Hamd cannon surg

[ripe quest]

The only benefit of something like that on a Helbore is if you lack the time to ADS or are close enough to not care about accuracy. It doesn't compare to a Boltgun's mechanic change when hipfiring.

[tall palm]

worth putting crucian roulette on it?

[lavish flame]

The bolter's entire hipfire is for when the enemt is close enough that it that ADS isnt needed or you dont have time to ADS

Its not the primary use case of the weapon

[ripe quest]

Surgical works better for the OG revolver's kit.

[lavish flame]

Otherwise the ADS is pointless

[surreal solstice]

Suegical is much better

[ripe quest]

CR kinda works but it's just not fun. Revolver really likes the guaranteed crit.

[tall palm]

i have both stored tbh

[surreal solstice]

Crucian works well with newvolver

[tall palm]

so surgical and hand cannon?

[surreal solstice]

Or gloryhunter

[blazing fossil]

lol i forgot how good the HS6 is at killing ragers

[tall palm]

i have glory hunter stored i think

[surreal solstice]

I like toughness, especially when there's gunner conga line
Tho it require a melee that can deal with carapace

[oak ermine]

Head in clouds, truly

Or just busy eating rashuns in the comfy confines of the scruffy vest

[ripe quest]

It feels like you're missing my point, I'm not gonna continue a discussion that you're not willing to listen to.

[autumn shadow]

How are you going to eat your Rashuns?

[zinc talon]

BOLTER HIP FIRE IS AN INTENTIONAL ANNOYANCE TO NEGATIVELY REWARD PRIMARILY AIMING DOWN THE SIGHT

TO MAKE THE GUN FEEL HEAVY AND SLOW TO BRING TO BEAR

IT IS RETARDICULOUS

[surreal solstice]

MAKE BOULDER FULL AUTO ONLY

[zinc talon]

just make the fuckin thing less accurate at the hip and stop making the gun primary fire at 5-10m and ADS sniping beyond

naw they'd break our shoulders and wrists cuz of the calibre

[surreal solstice]

Worth it tho

[ripe quest]

They kinda just forced it by making it a finesse weapon while it has Surgical.

Hard to compete with that.

[autumn shadow]

Aren’t they self propelled rounds after they leave the barrel

[zinc talon]

the whole thing is human sized bolters balance out the recoil of the mass reactive shell by being intentionally, silly stupid heavy

because legion issue bolters are one and a half or twice again as big

so the thing needs to be laser beam accurate at the hip, eventually, standing still

slow to shoulder

[surreal solstice]

Still need crapton of powder to be reliable at short range

[zinc talon]

and then generally pretty close shot groupings with trigger discipline

it needs to fire at a delay to your movements

[ripe quest]

Just give it ripper mechanics where the ADS is a brace that is full auto and the hip fire is a single fire or burst.

[zinc talon]

so if you're swinging right and shooting the shots come after your target because of the weight of the gun being brought round

[autumn shadow]

Isn’t the main part of the damage the self explosive rounds after they penetrate skin

[zinc talon]

they have to go a certain distance

as a safety to the operator

kinda like how rpgs don't arm themselves for 30 or whatever feet after being fired

[autumn shadow]

Didn’t know that tidbit

[zinc talon]

that's why you can nail a smol every now and again and he just looks at you

and stabs you for six health before you end him

the round didn't go off

[surreal solstice]

It is but you still need velocity for penetration
And missiles take their sweet time to accelerate

[autumn shadow]

Wouldn’t most of the recoil be from launching that large of a calibre out of the barrel so technically shouldn’t it be less recoil than it is?

[surreal solstice]

...what

[dense field]

I can't read that

[zinc talon]

so there's 2 bits to it

generally self propelled rounds died after the gyrojet

but the bolter uses both

[autumn shadow]

It wouldn’t require as much force to just eject it out of the barrel than to fire it solely from the barrel

[zinc talon]

it's a .99 caliber cuz james workshop has never seen a real gun in his life

the round itself has powder, that's what you see coming out the barrel

[surreal solstice]

.75 i think

[zinc talon]

but that's to throw the mass reactive shell far enough it ignites itself

[surreal solstice]

And .998

[zinc talon]

and also the detonation arms the mass reactive bit

[autumn shadow]

That’s what I’m saying

[zinc talon]

there it is, lol

yeah, everyone's right

[autumn shadow]

It shouldn’t have as much recoil since that’s the case

[zinc talon]

it's a self propelled 40mm grenade with a .50 caliber powder charge behind it

cuz the bullets are so heavy the powder needed to achieve the same thing would rip the gun apart

[autumn shadow]

Do we know the equivalent powder charge that are actually in them

[surreal solstice]

Even GW doesn't

[autumn shadow]

[zinc talon]

also, some guy in Northumbrian Cuckinton-on-Shite county, england, wrote the schematics for the bolter almost fifty years ago

[surreal solstice]

I mean in terms of technicalities, GW stuff is mostly hillarious

[zinc talon]

yeah it's best to play it fast and loose on this kinda stuff

[autumn shadow]

But we need the schematics for the sized down rounds

[surreal solstice]

WHAT THE MOTHERFUCK

[autumn shadow]

It’s beautiful

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-taco-smile-gif-15840669

[surreal solstice]

ME WANTS

[autumn shadow]

Weapon customization mod

[zinc talon]

so I'm uh

[autumn shadow]

And extended weapon customization mod

[zinc talon]

well I don't think it's possible to even know which rounds those actually belong in

[dense field]

Belt fed drum cylinder magazine

[zinc talon]

they look to me like revolver or bolter rounds

[dense field]

It would be perfect if it was also a bolt action rifle

[autumn shadow]

That looks more like a medium artillery sized round

[surreal solstice]

Seriously, what's this launcher suppose to be?

[oak ermine]

It unfortunately is a headhunter Autogun, from the looks of it

[autumn shadow]

Also @zinc talon I’ve found that painting the weapon pink with for the drip makes any monstrosity look at least 50% worse

[zinc talon]

that's what I mean

I have no idea what weapon that drum fits into

and I've uh, played a mission or two

[autumn shadow]

Ripper guns

Looks like a skin

[surreal solstice]

How is it called in customization menu?

[zinc talon]

I don't think so, it's a 13 round wheel

12 maybe

it's the same setup as a revolver wheel

[autumn shadow]

But it’s inside the mag so you should never see it

[surreal solstice]

Dunno, rippers use boxes
This one is a whole new different model

[zinc talon]

lemme see if I still have that insult before god in my inventory,

I'll check

oh, it's a double round per cylinder setup

[zinc talon]

so 22-24 total

[autumn shadow]

Yeah it’s bound to be ripper guns

[surreal solstice]

[autumn shadow]

Mmmmm

[cinder roost]

[autumn shadow]

I cant even tell what the base weapon is

[zinc talon]

hm

I want to say a shredder

[autumn shadow]

I WANT

Must put on purgatus staff

Surely it points the barrel where the fire will go

[zinc talon]

yep, works pretty well on the voidstrike tbh

the purge I think comes out of your left hand though

[autumn shadow]

I also love just putting my melee weapon as the stick

[left iron]

We didnt get a single horde after the mid event at smelter, even in the finale

[autumn shadow]

thwack

[left iron]

What the fuck

[zinc talon]

this has an actively unsettling aura

[autumn shadow]

Magical

I have a laspistol with invisible mags

[cinder roost]

Same

I think its a bug in the mod

[autumn shadow]

Yeah it happens when you change the receiver

[zinc talon]

so these are stubber rounds

[autumn shadow]

Yes

[zinc talon]

oh the dimentions squished it down

[left iron]

I almost killed as many ranged elites as trash mobs

[zinc talon]

there we go

[autumn shadow]

Was it the gunner modifier

[zinc talon]

stubber rounds

[left iron]

Yah

[autumn shadow]

That’s why

[left iron]

What, it just removes the hordes?

[autumn shadow]

It prioitizes ranged enemies

[left iron]

Well, i guess it prioritized their wellbeing this time around

They all stayed home

[zinc talon]

they're clipped into the magazines, can't get a calibre just spinning the gun

[autumn shadow]

Measure based off the barrel exit

[autumn shadow]

Compared to ogryn standing next to puny

[steep flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004355825252442156/1190235160487153715/caption.gif?ex=65a10fdf&is=658e9adf&hm=38c4fa505d43c82cf0293e033a95936adc05ff624f9c352f0f6b3036a5ba29b4&

chat is this real?

[autumn shadow]

Why

[steep flame]

kinda cool honestly

[autumn shadow]

Is it just me or does it look like a buffer stubby .50 cal

[steep flame]

kinda reminiscent of the ares shrike

only its spitting spent shell casings into your face

[autumn shadow]

I mean your already getting plastered in blood and gore

What’s a few casings?

[steep flame]

more like its an engineering oversight that could be easily fixed

[autumn shadow]

Meh

[desert vessel]

is there an optimal attack pattern for XV evis

[steep flame]

is that the new one?

spam

for hordes atleast

spam lights and for heavier armoured opponents heavy spam

[autumn shadow]

For single I just prefer special heavy

[desert vessel]

do you special for maulers

[zinc talon]

bolter rounds

[desert vessel]

or is heavy spam enough

[steep flame]

in mixed hordes focus the heavy targets

[steep flame]

idk

do what feels best

[autumn shadow]

For hordes with bigger threats isn’t it more optimal to do special lights?

[steep flame]

idfk

[celest basin]

wtf is that? CoD Vanguard?

[blazing fossil]

lol like hearing new dialogue, my zealot just told some psyker not to mention some saint again, as her name should burn your lips

[oak ermine]

Spam light for many enemies in your face at once, except when a big elite is involved (try to kill the big elite first-most).
Special heavy Rev attack for big boys. Regular heavy for small elites or certain singular, non-elite enemies (but 2x light on their head might be just as good). Try to avoid Heavy 2, it’s painfully slow to chain from Heavy 1

[autumn shadow]

I heard dialogue asking for an assassin

[oak ermine]

And special heavy revs for monsters as well, ideally their faces

[blazing fossil]

5th class confirmed

[celest basin]

quick Q: for crit build zealot, what combination of curios will be best? 2HP+1TG or something different? or its just basically personal preference?

[desert vessel]

thanks

[steep flame]

still waiting for an admech class

[autumn shadow]

There’s also dialogue asking for the whatever the tiny sniper guys are

[oak ermine]

It’s almost always a preference IMO

[desert vessel]

ah yes, darktide with an eversor assassin

[oak ermine]

I play 3x toughness for instance

[steep flame]

ive heard dialogue for ratling snipers for a while

[oak ermine]

Because I take big hits rarely enough that I would rather avoid taking chip damage altogether

[steep flame]

also the zealots eyepatch is made from vermin hide

so thats probably where they've all gone

[autumn shadow]

If your playing crit zealot isn’t toughness almost always better especially with the one +50% toughness damage reduction on crit

[oak ermine]

Well, many things that Zealot has become better with more Toughness

[ember yew]

i grab both that and second wind

🍖

[desert vessel]

what curios do you want for martyrdom?

[dense field]

Wounds

duh

[oak ermine]

And the TDR on Crit is decent, but Second Wind and toughness from Fury also become much more relevant

[oak ermine]

2x or 3x wounds

[zinc talon]

skip to maybe :30 if you're impatient, had to get my bearings and wiggle the controls just right to spin the magazine, with the carousel open, while scrolling the list

[autumn shadow]

I prefer the 7.5% on heavy attack and I also take the extra toughness on kill

[zinc talon]

but that's every round you can see

[surreal solstice]

3 wounds
Maybe 2 wounds 1 tough

[oak ermine]

I saw some players with 2x wounds, but I personally prefer 3

[zinc talon]

bolter rounds are not stamped, because fucking of course

[desert vessel]

do I get hp on the substats? for martyrdom

or toughness?

[oak ermine]

Either way goes, I’d rather take toughness, still

[desert vessel]

k, ty

[steep flame]

absolutely disgusted that no ones made a stormbolter skin for a brautogun or something

[ember yew]

if i use chainsword, then that one is ignored (7.5)

but that one is really op with HS

and usable with hammer

[autumn shadow]

The bolter rounds look like some sort of disposable brass wads that hold the initial charge and then moves out of the way for the rocket

I haven’t paid any attention but does the bolter eject anything to the side

[lusty harness]

Saw my first level 999 zealot today

[zinc talon]

yeah I can't replicated it

[autumn shadow]

I’ve seen someone at I believe lvl 1763

[lusty harness]

Holy shit

[autumn shadow]

Some people

[zinc talon]

uh.

[autumn shadow]

WOW

[zinc talon]

you'd think we'd know from

yknow

[ember yew]

day1 playur

[zinc talon]

shooting the bolter

[ember yew]

so far max one i saw is 1400 Ogryn and 1282 veteran

[autumn shadow]

I don’t pay attention to that while firing I focus on heretics being split in half

[dense field]

I'm a day 1 playur and my most played character has like 400

[lusty harness]

I’ve got around the 1200 hours and my highest class is vet at around 400

Yeah I’m day 1 too

[zinc talon]

yep someone I squad up with is 1750 and change

and they have less hours than I do

[autumn shadow]

Vet?

[lusty harness]

Jesus christ I had no idea people were that high

[olive raven]

Curios for everything outside of certain exceptions such as Deadshot Vet, some psyker builds and martyrdom builds are as follows:

2x Tough/1x HP or 3x Tough
Perks - Gunner Res/Tough/Your pick

[zinc talon]

Psucker

[autumn shadow]

Oh

[olive raven]

For certain psyker or dead shot vet, one stamina curios is acceptable

[autumn shadow]

Also is it just me or is psyker the most boring class to play

[olive raven]

For martyrdom, 3x wound is the usual

[olive raven]

It’s all personal opinion in that regard

[ember yew]

wheres my link to best martyrdom curios

[surreal solstice]

You actually use scopes?
Because for me they are kinda bugged, recoil and spread is not working properly on full auto on agri infauto
Everything is dandy in psykhanium

[olive raven]

No.

[autumn shadow]

If your doing martyrdom wouldn’t it be 1 wound 1 hp 1 toughness

[olive raven]

No

Wounds are what give martyrdom power

[autumn shadow]

Or is it 2 wound 1 toughness

[olive raven]

And you’d want toughness as you already have a baseline HP

[olive raven]

This is acceptable but for most I highly recommend 3x wound

[ember yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1190208062687031296/image.png?ex=65a0f6a3&is=658e81a3&hm=c582455b9b3c1681d2b5d29934c4ecab11440e11134d27210f987bbb9afbdac9&

here it is

MONEY

IS

POWER

[olive raven]

^that is not the best except maybe for farming

[autumn shadow]

Yeah

[olive raven]

The best martyrdom curios look like this

3x wound - Gunner res/HP/Tough

[autumn shadow]

I would take probably 1 corruption resistance over 1 of the gunner resistance

[olive raven]

It’s not really worth it, especially on Martyrdom

[ember yew]

its only for grimms though

if it was universal

would be ok

[surreal solstice]

Cor res is only useful against bonbon

[autumn shadow]

No normal corruption

[olive raven]

If you got some reason do grims, be my guest

But corruption isn’t that big an issue if you skills are there

[autumn shadow]

There’s 2 versions 1 normal 1 grim

[olive raven]

And actually push the bursters 💀

[ember yew]

thats even more disgusting

should just combine them

[wooden river]

It's like how we have Bomber resist and... Tox Flamer resist

[autumn shadow]

I push them but the amount of times I have people mess it up or shove it into me

[wooden river]

if it were generic fire resist, it'd be worth running

[lusty harness]

Should just be fire resist imo

[olive raven]

I really wouldn’t run corruption resistance as it won’t be that big an issue

[ember yew]

yeah

[wooden river]

Corruption resist is useful for Twins hard mode

but that's about it

[ember yew]

its just bloated too much

[olive raven]

I mean technically tox flamers are well “toxic”

[wooden river]

Mutant resist is also dumb

[olive raven]

But it’s still horrendous

[autumn shadow]

Also if you are running the beacon of purity corruption resistance is useless

[wooden river]

It's odd how they don't cause corruption with their flames, either

[oak ermine]

By design, there’s been defensive properties prepared for each special enemy type IIRC

[surreal solstice]

Grim res is uselessy on marty anyway, because your health will be lower than corruption meter most of the time

[oak ermine]

Maybe except the trapper?

[olive raven]

Oh god imagine 💀

[oak ermine]

But not all of them are in use

[celest basin]

thx bae

[olive raven]

Imagine pre-fix fire giving corruption too 💀

[oak ermine]

Say, there’s no perk for bursters, but curio source code does mention a property like that

[olive raven]

Holy fuck that would be amazing

[wooden river]

For the most part, yeah. With some corruption res, you can prevent one wound from being filled up completely if a pox burster blows up on you point-blank if you're running full Martyr

but that is so so niche lol

Burster resist would be on all of my non-ogryn characters

100%

they're probably the worst special right now

[olive raven]

Also just

Play a like

8m from your team

So they can’t burster you

[ember yew]

question

[olive raven]

Never bunch up super tight 💀

[autumn shadow]

Doesn’t normal corruption resist counter burster corruption

[wooden river]

It does

[olive raven]

I’d assume it would

[ember yew]

does gunner resist affect shotgunners or just tratatata guys

[wooden river]

there's an argument for it on psyker/vet

[olive raven]

Tratatata

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-week-tummy-cute-funny-gif-7326480

[oak ermine]

Tratata only. Rippers included.

[ember yew]

[autumn shadow]

Also does anyone else hate shotgunners with a passion

[ember yew]

where my

[olive raven]

Eh there’s an argument for it as the 3rd perk, but I would never sacrifice Gunner res for it

[ember yew]

shotgunners resist on curios then

[wooden river]

since a single burster will fill up roughly 1/4 of your health bar as those two classes, before any damage resist and with 200hp

[olive raven]

Idk what curios you running on those 💀

Cuz it’ll only take an eighth of mine

On psyker

[wooden river]

yeah the two moddable slots are already taken by +gunner and +toughness/hp/sniper res anyway

[autumn shadow]

Can’t you just slide to avoid sniper

[wooden river]

no way you're only taking an eighth corruption from a point-blank burster lol

[olive raven]

Realistically the best curios perks to lock in are Tough and Gunner res, the third perk is a whatever

[olive raven]

Yes but it’s a “oh shit can’t dodge cuz bulwarks” perk

[wooden river]

People fixate on sniper resistance, even if it is useful for psyker/vet

[olive raven]

Cuz if you build it right, a sniper shot won’t break a full wound

[ember yew]

+20% more plasteel on curios when

[wooden river]

it's a nice safety net for a fairly uncommon scenario (getting plugged by a sniper)

[olive raven]

I mean it def ain’t 1/4 for me

[ember yew]

id swap that in like 3 secs

[surreal solstice]

I'd be more than willing to sacrifice perk slot for bursters until fatshits learn to fucking code their audio

[wooden river]

It might be more like 1/5 or so; it depends on how much toughness you have at the time and whatever damage resistance you have up

it's quite a bit though

[olive raven]

Eh can’t remember the exact number for my psyker build but like

My zealot gets knocked to roughly 180-200? HP

[wooden river]

I run 1 hp/2 toughness on psyker and vet

[olive raven]

When I have 212 tough and 231 HP

without damage reduction outside passive nodes

If good balance is up it’s a bit better

[wooden river]

good balance is underrated

or at least, people don't talk about it that often

when it's realistically up almost the entire time during a horde

[olive raven]

It’s usually point tax, I take it over duelist usually

And usually cuz I have second wind

So the synergy is insane

15% toughness and 1/4 DR on dodge is wildly good

[wooden river]

it's very nice

[olive raven]

it’s great proccing good balance right before a mutie grabs me so I take a total of two HP damage

[autumn shadow]

We need the capability to go up the talent tree on connected nodes

[olive raven]

That

Jesus

God no

[surreal solstice]

Balance works on toughness, right?

[olive raven]

Player power would be insane 💀

[olive raven]

It’s general damage reduction

[wooden river]

Good Balance works on health and toughness

[oak ermine]

What? Why?

[autumn shadow]

It would mostly be used to avoid certain point taxes

[olive raven]

I’m in the firm opinion that

Using second wind/good balance

Makes you a better player

As it allows you to see when dodges are properly done

[autumn shadow]

Also psyker tree

[olive raven]

I mean there isn’t much of a case for it on zealots tree

[autumn shadow]

Yeah

[olive raven]

You’d have the same point taxes

[autumn shadow]

But other trees yes

[surreal solstice]

I'm honestly having a hard time deciding between duelist and balance

[olive raven]

What weapon

[wooden river]

Depends on which weapon you're using

[surreal solstice]

Mk 15 evi

[olive raven]

I’d go good balance

Idk how good the weak point multiplier even is on an evis

[autumn shadow]

Also I’ve been loving the high attack version of the heavy sword recently

[olive raven]

But from memory is isn’t great

[olive raven]

the what

[autumn shadow]

The tan one

[olive raven]

That

[surreal solstice]

15 is rather good, imo
I wondered how it would work on bosses
With 4 crits in a row

[olive raven]

Doesn’t help 💀

[autumn shadow]

Isn’t it the the mark 9 or something

[olive raven]

Okay mark 9

Tbh HS6 is better

better elite TTK in exchange for horde clear taking two more swings

But mk9 is quite nice too

[blazing fossil]

honestly the heavy swords are tiring as they do nothing to carapace

[autumn shadow]

I love my mk 9 cause I put +25 maniac on it

The one shots are beautiful

[blazing fossil]

i'll take a rashad over the swords tbh

[autumn shadow]

I also run flak on it

[wooden river]

when we gettin dual rashads

[olive raven]

Revolver, Bolter, Kant

[olive raven]

Yea that’s the right choice

Maniac > Flak for heavy swords

Deathblow + Headtaker best blessing combo

[autumn shadow]

We would be more likely to get dual tac axes first

[wooden river]

It's prob gonna be dual tac axes if we get dual axes at all

[autumn shadow]

I’m looking for headtaker atm

[wooden river]

easier to wield

[olive raven]

good good

[wooden river]

and they're more like hatchets

[blazing fossil]

here is mine, its fun but I hate going up against crushers with it

[blazing fossil]

mauler packs you can aim for chest

[zinc talon]

can't pare down the plasma or flamer to any smaller than about this

[autumn shadow]

This is what my sword looks like atm

[zinc talon]

oh well

[olive raven]

So the thing with heavy swords against crushers

Yea it’ll take 3-5 seconds to kill it

[autumn shadow]

💩

[olive raven]

But the trick is

[zinc talon]

they'll just have to make my plasma and flamer pistols after they're done making my bolt pistol

[olive raven]

Special->Heavy it

[olive raven]

Lord, if you have that 2nd mod slot that’s nice af

[olive raven]

This will bully any crusher as the stagger is enough to stop its attacks

[blazing fossil]

with a rashad if you are quick enough can kill 3 by bonking them in the head one at a time

[autumn shadow]

I know but it’s still painful even with the +50 finess on dodge

[blazing fossil]

alternate to keep them staggered

[olive raven]

Yea that’s why you make up for it with a ranged that’s good against carapace

Bolter, revolver, etc

[autumn shadow]

Bolter

[zinc talon]

I really should get around to actually using these

[autumn shadow]

Isn’t deathblow about on par with wrath on the sword

[zinc talon]

that rampage/headtaker 9 turned me off to heavy swords entirely, it was so silly strong back when I got it the game became unironically boring

so I dropped it/heavies and transcended to krhshrrhshr

[dense field]

no

[autumn shadow]

Also this is the perk setup I use with my sword

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af6c9da-3f33-4cac-8c16-8164d68254ce/build-5

[compact hinge]

plasma pistols, bolt pistols, flamer pistols, las pistols and auto pistols are great and all

But where's my pistol

[dense field]

MELTA

INFERNO PITOL WHERE

[naive star]

Im using the same weapon combo atm

But momentum build instead with that Fury rush

[autumn shadow]

I left the gun on default cause I have yet to get a good gun to pair it with

Also you all would be jealous I got that sword as a mission reward it’s a 376

[fleet zealot]

What

Noooo

[naive star]

Id change Wrath in it

[dense field]

Wrath is not good on hs

[compact hinge]

I prefer knife with throwing knives personally

If I had a ballistic knife secondary I would use it

[autumn shadow]

Can’t wrath give you more cleave overall cause isn’t the other one just ignore hit mass

[fleet zealot]

Cleave stat from wrath and sweep do not do anything on heavysword because the weapon already has massive cleave

[naive star]

Im on a lookout for knife, unlucky with getting good base to work with (also low lvl blessings)

RNG kinda steered me to the Heavy Sword, and its great at horde clear

[olive raven]

Deathblow is excessively better than wrath

[fleet zealot]

Ignoring hitmass lets you apply first target damage to 4 enemies and kill 4 elites in one swing

[autumn shadow]

Didnt know

[naive star]

Yeah im running Deathblow+Headtaker

[olive raven]

There’s a massive different between ignoring hit mass and increasing hit mass you can cleave

[fleet zealot]

Cleave does nothing for hsword

[autumn shadow]

I want imidiatly

[olive raven]

If you basically

Line up

[naive star]

Deathblow allows you to deal full dmg to like 4 targets at once, so one swing often decapitates 4 targets

[olive raven]

8 ragers

You can ignore the hit mass on all if you weak point kill them

Which is fucking insane

[autumn shadow]

I get the point now

[fleet zealot]

Since it already hits through everything by default you dont need cleave

[naive star]

Im talking like expert on this matter, yet i got schooled it in here just few days ago 😅

[fleet zealot]

The new evi doesnt want sweep/cleave for the opposite reason, it’s horizontal strikes can only damage 3 enemies regardless of cleave

[autumn shadow]

Also I had no choice but to reword both flat perks on the sword cause they were really bad

[naive star]

But was noticeable change for the better

[olive raven]

Ain’t it 4

[autumn shadow]

I thought it was 4-5

[fleet zealot]

Dont go crit with hsword

[gray cloud]

I got that in a shop an hour ago

[autumn shadow]

It rips

[dense field]

why tho

[autumn shadow]

It’s much better than you think

[fleet zealot]

Crit is strictly better on dclaws and evis and chsword

It is much worse than what you think

Hsword has average crit chance and no synergistic blessings

[autumn shadow]

It has a base crit of 5%

[fleet zealot]

And it has a low/average finesse score

[autumn shadow]

If you get the extra finess perk and then the crit keystone the damage goes through the roof

[fleet zealot]

Dclaw, chsword and eviscerator are just better

[dense field]

You already have 25% crit chance from fury and 5% innate crit chance

It's enough

[left iron]

Chord

[fleet zealot]

Wrong

Finesse type damage only boosts the bonus damage you would get from crit/weakspot

[dense field]

They are better at CDR, HS is better at being a weapon

[fleet zealot]

Yes that only applies 50% to the bonus amount

[autumn shadow]

That’s damage not bonus amount

[fleet zealot]

So about 15% actual bonus because hsword

[dense field]

It's not as good as you think, I have to agree

[fleet zealot]

You dont know mechanics im telling you

Crit damage weakspot damage finesse damage is calculated poorly

[autumn shadow]

Then fatshark need to do a better job wording

[fleet zealot]

Dclaw rolls finesse and has a high finesse base so it benefits more with crit than hsword ever will

[blazing fossil]

whats ultimate crusher sniping bolter setup? this?

[fleet zealot]

Hsword always gets the most out of momentum and/or martyrdom

[fleet zealot]

No

Surgical to pinning or even shattering to pinning fire

[blazing fossil]

oh ok, ill farm one

[fleet zealot]

With damnation level numbers and bolters general clunkiness surgical is wasted on zealot

[autumn shadow]

Surgical to pinning

[fleet zealot]

You want to chastise and magdump

God game’s lantern on mobile sucks with all the ads

[dense field]

Do you specifically want to snipe?

[fleet zealot]

If you want to snipe go play vet

[dense field]

Then surgical pinning.

If you want to magdump then probably shattering pinning

[fleet zealot]

And use a surgical bolter for 1 match before going to the mk3 helbore, plasma, or revolver

[dense field]

Or cavalcade pinning

idk

[autumn shadow]

Even then on vet wouldn’t pinning still be better

[fleet zealot]

Vet goes pinning surgical iirc

It is weird but shattering got nerfed recently

I dont think the tooltip is updated

[compact hinge]

Imagine taking the time to aim smh

I am a "hold LMB" based gamer

[blazing fossil]

wtf I just loaded into a game mid mission, but its at the beginning and I'm with 3 bots

[fleet zealot]

Someone probably left as you were joining i guess

[dense field]

Enjoy your new strike team

[lean lark]

zealot runs shattering pinning with flak and cara if you want to use the bolter as anti-armor

[compact hinge]

Lmao is it at least an easy mission

Or is it orthos damnation

[blazing fossil]

damnation normal

[compact hinge]

You'll maybe be fine

Also how viable is knife in auric

It feels like it does 0 damage to armour

Unless I'm using it wrong

[fleet zealot]

shattering doesnt do much cause they changed how it stacks, and you use chastise for armor pen

[fleet zealot]

knife is mid and yes you are probably using it wrong

you need uncanny strike

then it is precog, executor, or if you are so deadset on going bleed and i'm not gonna argue with you about it, go flesh tearer

perks, maniac, flak, unyielding, carapace, and elites all good/great choices

[compact hinge]

I see

[dense field]

It's not a good weapon

[lean lark]

it still applies 10% brittleness per shot, that makes your bolter take one less bullet to kill it with

instead of 5 bullets it takes 4

with shattering impact

[compact hinge]

It is a fun weapon however

You can go full knife goblin

[dense field]

Is it fun for your teammates too?

[compact hinge]

I can only assume yes

[dense field]

Who cares about teammates though, you do you

[fleet zealot]

knife is viable

[dense field]

It is working and it is fun

[north cape]

Silly poker go brrr

[fleet zealot]

it's just takes a lot of work and avoiding fatshark traps

for mediocre rewards

[dense field]

You just need a lot of effort to get mediocre results

[fleet zealot]

basically as C tier as C tier can get

We rate every other weapon off the BiS, I'll rate knife off BiS too even tho people seem allergic to it

[dense field]

It's addictive

all these animations

[compact hinge]

I just saw a very small very fast knife zealot once

[fleet zealot]

and knife with BiS and used properly is fine

[dense field]

and speed

[compact hinge]

And decided that should be me

[dense field]

If the knife was a tiny bit better it would be mainstream

[fleet zealot]

yea that is the problem cause buff knife and you have all the crit damage weakspot damage perk enjoyers with their lacerate flesh tearer knives

coming in and doing sub 200k damage

[compact hinge]

Also what's the take on the shock maul, used it the other day for the first time and it seems real solid

[dense field]

it is

[frozen ibex]

You're using it wrong.

[compact hinge]

I assumed so

[steep flame]

i got access to tarky arena

yippie yippie

[umbral slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-mqvJtpmIs

[mystic ether]

Well, now I'm in a really nice comfortable place with my zealot so far. could use some upgrades but at this rate I just want a great crucis 2 for shroudfield-momentum stuff and a knife for the chastise-fury setup.

Crit backstabs feel pretty good.

[dense field]

Get a good claw or a HS before the knife

[fiery ingot]

im also grinding for the claw

keen to try it with piety setup

[dense field]

It's a very fun weapon

[wooden river]

Stealth Knife is fun, but I always end up back at caxe and crusher/ironhelm

running around as an axe gremlin is more satisfying to me in the long run

[blazing fossil]

ok 1 shotting muties is bringing me back to the hs6

[dense field]

caxe is just great

[fiery ingot]

well caxe is the best out there from what i've heard

[wooden river]

two of the three caxes, that is

[fiery ingot]

rashad

[wooden river]

It's a great all-rounder weapon

[dense field]

Two of two

[wooden river]

poor achlys

[dense field]

[wooden river]

good thing you can make the others look like an Achlys with the commisary skin

[fiery ingot]

im looking to a knife solely for the piety flamer

and melt away maulers

[dense field]

Try a taxe instead

It's fast too

[wooden river]

mk2 taxe was my beloved back on launch

[mystic ether]

Personally just give so little of a shit about the hsword. I know it's solid as hell but I'm just not interested at the moment. If a solid hsword just lands in my lap, like anything else, will just get used to feel it but it's knives and hammers for me right now.

[placid fiber]

So... did I miss anything in the last, like, 3 days? >.>

[mystic ether]

Knives, hammers and revolvers.

[placid fiber]

They added 2h hammers?!?!

[mystic ether]

If I ever get my hands on a good lawbringer shotgun it's going nuts.

[fiery ingot]

i think they're talking about the weapons they are into rn

[mystic ether]

Zealot got me back on my crit backstab shit again.

[dense field]

Well if the knife FEELS good to you then go ahead

[mystic ether]

I mean, if I want better damage, I'm gettin me mallet.

mallet(s).

still need a better crusher.

[wooden river]

I got a near-perfect Crusher like a week before it got buffed

I was initially sad until... well, it got buffed a week later

then I was a very happy zealot

[mystic ether]

Is one of blessing combinations to aim for thrust and headtaker?

[wooden river]

(except for the fact that I don't have the cool paid skins for it)

[mystic ether]

Thrust is the big important part for momentum setups from what I'm aware of.

[dense field]

Or thrust and slaughterer

[mystic ether]

Since I want to keep doing shroudfield stuff for the three kinds of bonks.

[dense field]

Thrust is the big important part for hammers, period

[mystic ether]

Was going to ask if that blessing carried itself into other builds. Good to know.

[wooden river]

For Crusher? Or Hammer

[dense field]

Hammers are such a horrible weapon to roll

[mystic ether]

Thunder hamemrs.

[wooden river]

Crusher just wants Skullcrusher

Oh for hammers

[mystic ether]

I got one with thrust and some hit mass ignore blessing idr.

[wooden river]

Thrust is necessary to oneshot elites and bosses with the heavy attack

[dense field]

Needs three to four stats high and specific blessings and perks

[wooden river]

yeah it's pretty finicky

[frank night]

PLASMA

[wooden river]

For the second blessing, Slaughterer or Headtaker is good for general use

Can't remember if Thunderous lets either hammer hit specific breakpoints

I think that used to be the case long ago

[lean lark]

thrust slaught/headtaker is the blessing combo for both hammers

[placid fiber]

lol a level 13 player joined and saw my level 8 psyker and just noped tf out, I don't even blame them xD

[desert vessel]

whats the dump stat on XV ev

[zinc talon]

cleave is pretty safe

[fiery ingot]

what are ranged options that pairs well with crusher? i've been running revolver but im keen to try anything really

[zinc talon]

check the range and find what % you need to hit tho

cleave always rounds up to the next integer

so if it's 9.001 you get 10 cleave

[desert vessel]

I have one with 30% cleave

[zinc talon]

I mean, the mass it can swing through

[fiery ingot]

bruh

[zinc talon]

when you hover over the stat

aim for whatever.01

[dense field]

Inspect->see breakdowns

[zinc talon]

I swear by my bolter with the crusher

[fiery ingot]

that sounds like an absolute overkill

[dense field]

I like laspistol

[zinc talon]

this value

naw the bolter allows me to nope ranged specials with just a snapshot

at any range

and then get back to pulpin'

[fiery ingot]

oh interesting. which one?

[dense field]

The old one

[fiery ingot]

so you use it only to snipe stuff?

[zinc talon]

I'm getting to where any single target is 2 or 3 hits from dead with the crusher, or at least it's dead before it gets back up off the ground

so I'm tryin to learn how to jackie chan 1-2-3-disengage

[fiery ingot]

teach me the ways please

[zinc talon]

and the bolter meshes really nicely with that

[fiery ingot]

im still a crusher amateur

[fading vale]

combo push attack headshots off of prior attacks so you get skullcrusher buff

[fiery ingot]

when do i special?

[fading vale]

mostly for CC

[fiery ingot]

oh

[faint yoke]

When a bulwark charges you.

[fiery ingot]

the special isnt needed to do big damage?

bruh

i've been playing this thing wrong this whole time

[fading vale]

no the special is utility move, the special heavy barely does more damage

[violet hornet]

#zealot-class message

[dense field]

The special is for AoE CC

[fading vale]

but yeah just read what josho wrote

the big damage comes from high attack speed and combos and finesse damage on stuff like push attack

and utilizing skullcrusher in combos cause the only way skullcrusher activates is on targets that are mid stagger or on the floor

[zinc talon]

it can help but what's more important than damage is how the weapon discharges now

unlike the paul, the crusher's light swings are half damage and half blast radius size

so lights on most crushers won't discharge against more than what you connect the swing with

[fading vale]

the best thing about the special lights is infinite cleave

[dense field]

Somehow crusher is so boring to use for me. And I'm not bored by rashad. IDK why, probably the sound design.

[zinc talon]

the heavy attacks will stagger and push away, but only about as far as your weapon reaches

[zinc talon]

here's just a quick oncearound the grinder cuz I was already in there

so it's a breather for you, not the room

[faint yoke]

Can never get bored with mk 6 heavy sword personally. Makes you feel like a space samurai

[royal vortex]

specifically for carapace the highest damage you can deal in a single hit is a charged push attack headshot

[zinc talon]

when they're already staggered

the power up's big help is the opening attack ragdoll

[royal vortex]

so if u knock a crusher onto the floor (which is possible but for the most part not happening) and can line up a headshot it's funny to do

[dense field]

same

[zinc talon]

since you don't not take skullcrusher, you need your enemy in the process of gettin laid out to hit your best damage output

so the power up light swing will clear a horde and a heavy will all but assplant a crusher and jostle the things right next to it

the advantage is now that they're assplanted, for the rest of their short little lives you can reduce the number of hits from 5-7 to 2-3

push attack is perhaps the best attack the crusher has

it does silly damage against weakspot, will ragdoll 3-4 horde

and the next three swings from light attack are whapwhapwhap weak spot increase attacks too

so push, attack, lightlightlight

and you've hit them 4 times with 5 of the top 6 hardest hitting attacks the weapon has

you'll even learn to work a power up in there somewhere as you find the time

you can, with practice, learn how to power the thing up every swing and lose no time in doing so

and when you get the moveset down in muscle memory you can use it to conserve your speed while letting go aoe discharge attacks

but this'll tunnel vision you into gotta go fast like sanic gotta hit hard like reaper and actually lose overall nimbleness

that said when you gitgud you can use it to sprint faster than you can just holding down the shiftkey

[fiery ingot]

OHHHH

i see it now

[zinc talon]

you can s k e e d a d d l e

[fiery ingot]

i tested it in normal t5 true solo to take a feel of the weapon and its combos, but i didnt realize skullcrusher potential and how to properly make use of it, thats why i felt like the damage output was so low

[wise fern]

Retreating? Nah, tactical reposition to fight another day

[fiery ingot]

this makes a lot of sense now

but does skullcrusher damage scales with how much staggered the target is?

[fiery ingot]

why piety tho? isnt inexorable judgement better?

more atk speed = faster combo?

or you're looking to one shot stuff with crits?

[zinc talon]

I like being able to seize the moment when a fights going poorly

it lets me charge the team into a room full of ranged enemies, stun everything up to bosses, heal everyone in range and make everything else cower in place

it's a nice pause button

oh

[fiery ingot]

oh i was talking about the keystone in particular haha

[zinc talon]

lol was defending the usual big damage chaser critique my bad

I knee jerked

[fiery ingot]

i like chorus but i cant play without chastise

[zinc talon]

I only just started using piety actually, I ran momentum from day 1 of the career update

[fiery ingot]

i feel like im nerfing myself by not using chastise but i understand your point too

ahh i see

[zinc talon]

with bible thump and corruption eater I keep the whole team alive a lot longer than those degenerates deserve to be

[ember yew]

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-this-is-the-end-gif-10549969

[fiery ingot]

lmao understandable really

[zinc talon]

building for max move speed and attack rate/cleave damage makes it all feel like a really dodgy DND priest class playthrough

StopDying, StopRotting, WhyAreYouOverThere

I have a universal truth that if everyone else stays alive for long enough, the mission will complete

[zinc talon]

so all I have to do is keep these idiots alive for the next half hour, and I get gear and money to spend on gear

[raven swan]

Bauty is subjective, change my mind

[tame mirage]

bauty

[zinc talon]

that dude has skyrim porn mods installed on his drive this very moment

as we speak

[steep flame]

yeah a few

[fiery ingot]

i mean

[bright lagoon]

HOW DO U MAKE BOLTER WORK ON ZEALOT

[tame mirage]

you dont

[lean lark]

pinning fire shattering impact/cavalcade

[steep flame]

probably like 1 fourth of the women

[tame mirage]

it's too fat

[lean lark]

or surgical pinning fire

[placid fiber]

Ugh the randoms tonight suck fucking ass... then again this is pretty close to the weekend where they get slightly(unlike before which was drastically) worse...

[fiery ingot]

everyone in this game is kinda off the charts

[tame mirage]

slow

[lean lark]

use it for carapace enemies, dense armor enemy packs

and bosses

or pick off long range elites (if you cant dash towards them)

[placid fiber]

I mean I was literally doing more monster damage than everyone with brain rupture and the faster charge on career skill use as my psyker...

[wise fern]

I am the Emperors smoothie blender

[placid fiber]

I really like having a mk4 dueling/deimos force sword with a surge staff and brain rupture

[wise fern]

If they play their roles

[placid fiber]

Cuz... the low difficulty pugs? make heresy pugs look decent... :/

[desert vessel]

Is this build okay? and I cant decide where to spend last 2 points, they arent in there yet

[placid fiber]

grab shield of contempt and the one above it in the middle thing below the fire nade

[lean lark]

remove purge the unclean and the one before it, then go for second wind

[wise fern]

Is Martyrdom decent now? I've been gone a little and it was laughably bad before

[wise fern]

Agreed

[lean lark]

what weapon are you running

[desert vessel]

and I have both modifiers for martyrdrom, screwed up the screenie

[blazing fossil]

Hey which hammer is better?

[fiery ingot]

thats

a bit too dumped

[lean lark]

2nd one

[left iron]

Right one

[wise fern]

Crucis

[blazing fossil]

ok ty

[oak ermine]

I’d choose right

[lean lark]

ht3 to 4 is a 2.5% power difference so

[wise fern]

Keep both but the right is what I'd use

[lean lark]

you're gonna use that thammer until the ends of time

or until you get a perf one

[wise fern]

Or balance changes happen

[blazing fossil]

maybe I can farm for thrust 4

[desert vessel]

me?

[lean lark]

yes

[desert vessel]

XVevis

[lean lark]

ok yeah just go for second wind

[left iron]

We just had smelter scab ranged, why is it already back in

Like 3 hours ago

[fading vale]

you can try lol

[desert vessel]

should I get blood redemption or scourge

[fading vale]

scourge if you are running piety

[desert vessel]

martyrdom

[fading vale]

then don't run scourge

[zinc talon]

1

[lean lark]

looks like shit

[zinc talon]

idk what that guy's on about, I simp pretty hard for my gal here and she's got so much facial scarring it's disfigured her jaw on that side of her face

[lean lark]

get a skull mask on

problem resolved

dont need to look at her face

[wise fern]

The Emperors covid mask

[left iron]

Damn i love auric pugs

[zinc talon]

half the allure is all the fucking crazy bottled up

[desert vessel]

is second wind better than good balance?

[next trench]

https://youtu.be/jTD6q962W8w?si=TRBHwINoVQY8cM_d

[oak ermine]

Subjectively: yes.
Objectively: probably also yes.

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/squig-hopper-warhammer-fantasy-waaagh-deviantar-ismartal-greenskin-gif-19101236

new zealot meta

[frosty herald]

I can confirm some players are skarsnik

[wise fern]

I love it

[solar gorge]

had a knife zealot run far ahead die, quit and re-join 5 times in a row

pretty entertaining

[wise fern]

Par for the course

[frosty herald]

Suspiciously human shaped gobbo

[wise fern]

They get the zoomies like dogs

[exotic portal]

ran two runs in the morning, solo.. People asleep..??

[solar gorge]

i wish the re-joining cheese wasn't a thing

[fiery ingot]

LMAO

[frosty herald]

Armored core 6 gives a penalty for rage quiting in pvp why not for darktide lmao

[solar gorge]

depends on your region

[exotic portal]

eu asleep

[fiery ingot]

im going to create a ogryn rn just so i can make a riddick cosplay

[solar gorge]

should be fine on auric board

[exotic portal]

ran a auric heresy and normal damnation solo

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-come-to-me-i-got-you-austin-powers-dr-evil-gif-22424600

[solar gorge]

yeah heresy auric and normal damn will be less populated

[exotic portal]

max blockage of people are 10

[solar gorge]

everyone who plays at ungodly hours is already at auric damn p much

[exotic portal]

well, when someone joined they left imediatly

[solar gorge]

hppens

[exotic portal]

fair

20-30 min run turn to 9-13 mins.

[zinc talon]

if you're doin ten minute runs

[exotic portal]

solo, too easy

[zinc talon]

I'll come let you rescue me after death five times a mission

oh

[ionic pasture]

What are the Revolver blessings I should have?

[zinc talon]

thought it was payday

[ornate bone]

Armored Core 6 is a mans game

With mans consequences.

[frosty herald]

I have a very very cancerous build

[solar gorge]

fromsoft pvp is poopoo

[frosty herald]

10 missile volley on both shoulders with flamethrowers weapons

[ornate bone]

And that's why I use this to establish dominance in PvP.

[ornate bone]

Nothing more cancer than my build.

[zinc talon]

time to pull some bullshit with this thing

[solar gorge]

check that shit out

mostly ranged

but ventilation purge

[ornate bone]

Dual gattling guns and dual stun lance

[solar gorge]

so the mostly ranged enemy units

can't see shit

[solar gorge]

better

[zinc talon]

blegh

[frosty herald]

Dual gatling alongside 2 shoulder cannons

[zinc talon]

all those missing ranged enemies are now crushers and maulers

[solar gorge]

good

[ornate bone]

That's what I used before stun lance

Songbird I believe.

[frosty herald]

I dont use songbirds cause they SUCK

[hushed agate]

Wait were getting modded weapons now?

[zinc talon]

unfortunately my matches are usually made up of meat and stupid

so crusher packs tend to uh oh there goes the mission

[ornate bone]

I fhyuck with songbird

[zinc talon]

ranged at least they have to chase down and murder the squad one by one

[ornate bone]

And it's easy to close the gap on my handy cart

[frosty herald]

I used earshot

Much higher damage

[ornate bone]

The double tap adds a ton of stun on top of the gattlings

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/bring-it-on-kuzco-lama-gif-16822682

[ornate bone]

I've heard there are new parts though

Haven't really checked em out

[frosty herald]

The new parts fuck hard

[ornate bone]

Been to many games lately

[frosty herald]

2 shoulder gatlings

[ornate bone]

Ohh

4 Gatling build???

[frosty herald]

Ibis

Is a joke with 4 gatlings

Every single ac enemy gets melted

[ornate bone]

Sounds like it, the dual gats do 90% of my stun lmao

[frosty herald]

The shoulder gatlings overheat fast but have a really fast cooldown

So you burst fire them to exhaust enemy quickboosts

[raven swan]

Guys I have very stupid quiestion but I dont know what the prblem is

[ornate bone]

Quad Mount Machine Guns dominating warfare from 1943 to the far flung future.

Gotta love it.

[raven swan]

I havd 2 different builds - one with evi and one with axe both different trees

But when I use one I have 2 wounds less - same curios equipped

Is it cause Faith skill?

[frosty herald]

You have a wound talent

[raven swan]

Aye, I just saw it, thanks

[frosty herald]

2 wounds node above martyr

[exotic portal]

never clutch doors at the espinage mission

[dense field]

A sad short story about why everyone wants TWBS

[zinc talon]

there will be sausages

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/sausage-gif-24573777