zealot-class

[blissful sinew]

i wish more of wow followed the 3 day lockout schedule, its so much nicer for actually hitting bis

[split ibex]

what's the play here?

[fading vale]

Prolly unarmored to flak

[split ibex]

I could go procog -> mercy killer or riposte

or unarmored to crit chance/flak

[fading vale]

precog is good so

[frozen glen]

precog is better than both of those blessings

[fading vale]

you could also kinda get away with leaving it as is to play around with and changing it later, but probably flak or crit chance perk

probably flak

[raven swan]

That a bug?

[north sedge]

check your items

[misty raven]

Usually means that maybe you sold a weapon that the loadout had

[mental coral]

smh no one plays nuclear throne anymore

risk of rain this enter the gungeon that

[ornate bone]

Guys

I got 2 fruit roll ups in one pack

Look upon the gifts god has bestowed me and weep

[mental coral]

Truly blessed

[whole vapor]

Thank you Hadron.

[fiery ingot]

69 mobility

[misty raven]

Ay shredder 4

With perfect strike it would go perfect with my brain dead martyrdom build

[whole vapor]

Perfect strike over rampage?

[misty raven]

Yes. I'm using that build so I can LMB w/ the least amount of interruption possible. Never said it was optimal

[warm trellis]

afaik only the ugly halo does?

most masks just muffle your speech

[misty raven]

Also I don't have rampage

[whole vapor]

Do you happen to have a screenshot of your build? I’m looking for new evils builds

[misty raven]

Brain dead martyrdom. Shred 4 works enough for your crit chance to get CDR on chastise. Have the wounds, the heal off dmg, dmg reduction to next wound, and knock back on attackers.

I just keep swinging

[spark ember]

Mobility>cleave for evi, imho 🙂

[halcyon elbow]

Whats the best Mission for Just a flesh wound?

[fleet zealot]

total rending bonus you can recieve is capped at 100%

[whole vapor]

Ty

[strange kestrel]

though i walk alone i walk in his light

[spark ember]

That one is for rampage+sweep evi, in case if u want to hit like a truck without those puny crits 🙂

[strange kestrel]

mk2 eviscerator i assume

if youre using SS

[spark ember]

Also for that one use unyeilding+ flak

Works with both, i prefer the new.one thou

[strange kestrel]

ss on the new one is pretty much useless

[spark ember]

No its not, if u want to cleVe multiple maulers in hordes

[strange kestrel]

only argument ive seen from somebody to justify running savage sweep on the mk15 was increased stagger to hordes which is plain stupid

[misty raven]

Hey my crits aren't puny!

[spark ember]

Being able to clear horde while keep stagger locking maulers and ragers its a big deal for me

[misty raven]

I cleave multiple maulers with my perfect strike crits

[north sedge]

crits are tiny for most weapons

[misty raven]

I know

[strange kestrel]

shred is better than savage sweep on new eviscerator

[spark ember]

I tried both, i disagree.

[strange kestrel]

added cleave doesnt change the dmg cap

but i guess its fine if you want to stagger elites and bruisers

i personally prefer shred

[misty raven]

Idk what's better. All I know is that XV Evis has back to back horizontal lights for the horde for shred and CDR for more chastise spam

[strange kestrel]

got way more mileage out of it than ss

but if ss floats your boat then so it be

[misty raven]

And with perfect strike less interruption to my lmb spam.

[spark ember]

It has huge dmg on heavies

[strange kestrel]

mk15s moveset is chefs kiss

[misty raven]

Eh. I get chastise enough for revved chastise heavy for the kill

I could see the dmg but I'm not using this xv evis to think. I'm just there to lmb spam and the occasional heavy...sometimes.

[dark zealot]

and thats the only reason i use
that ugly thing

[desert vessel]

I just started using the XV eviscerator and I'm never using another melee weapon again

It's so relaxing to use 😌

Slow leisurely swings chopping down everything

[open echo]

i just had two games in a row where someone decided they would go shoot the dh (on purpose)

[dark zealot]

as they should

[misty raven]

Careful man. You'll be like me with my mush brain with it and wound zealot

[fading vale]

I kinda wish they made braindead weapons just straight up worse than weapons you need to think about

but I get it, people wanna clicky clicky without thinking

[desert vessel]

It feels very different from the other eviscerator though

Even though that ones supposed to be better at horde clear?

[fading vale]

old evis is like, slightly better at horde clear but you have to do a combo

[misty raven]

Yea. If you actually mix up the attacks it can be better. But I want to lmb spam

[spark ember]

The less u think about mixing during a horde the bigger chance that u would not get hit occasionally... Bcuz u don't lose concentration

[frosty herald]

If the mk15 evis had its target cap removed it would destroy hordes

[spark ember]

That principle works for any class in any mmo

[misty ravine]

For what it's worth the Mk15 revved lights seem to have a much higher target limit. It's pretty memeable with Bloodthirsty

[frosty herald]

For real?

[north sedge]

It kills hordes just fine

[frosty herald]

Its amazing for hordes

Push stab is also very fun to use

[strange kestrel]

yeah

if i wanna do that i just play deep rock galactic

its darktide but you dont have to think and youre a dwarf

[misty ravine]

Try it in psykanium but yeah. It really is a meme tho. Almost always better off just swinging twice

[frosty herald]

Only really use light revs if i wanna do a funny rager kill inside of a horde

[misty ravine]

That said I think Bloodthirsty is underrated for Mk15 Evis

[blissful ice]

Are some blessings only available as the second blessing(when you upgrade to orange)? Or do I just have awful luck trying to farm one from upgrading to blues?

[misty raven]

It's the hadron casino

[olive raven]

Some are

I think of uh

Manstopper

That comes to find

Use Brunt’s to find those

Or Melk

[proper dawn]

You just gotta get used to absolutely destroying five 370+ weapons before you get one good blessing.

[blissful ice]

What about inspiring barrage?

[olive raven]

I think that goes to T4?

[misty raven]

The bolter one? I got that at a blue one time

[blissful ice]

Is there a list? I’m trying to farm it and gone through about 40 now lol

[misty raven]

Emprah didn't bless you with rng

[blissful ice]

That’s what I’m feeling lol

[vast basin]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits

[misty raven]

There's a dude in vet chat who's shared how many power swords he's taken to orange in the hunt for PC4

While I got my PC4 and Sunder off the 1st power sword I upgraded to hunt for it lmao

[sage swan]

I got that in one power sword 💀

[solar gorge]

i found it randomly at melk, which is why i even bothered to build a powersword

[copper hawk]

[proper dawn]

I honestly find a lot of blessing at Melk’s.

[sage swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/563401514912317451/1131417051269963846/ploo.gif

[proper dawn]

The stats are almost always garbage but you’ll at least find a good blessing to salvage.

[blissful ice]

At least I found a new shredder pistol in my hunt 😂.

Yeah I’ve been scouring melk as well

[olive raven]

Melks need to be changed to allow us to just buy blessings

and certain cosmetics

[strange kestrel]

thatd be great

[sage swan]

Turns out that bringing a crusher to the karnak twins fight is pretty good, i clutched out a damnation run easy peasy, killed the ragers, took both of their shields down, ressed the ogryn, simple as

[strange kestrel]

make melks contracts difficulty scale with level

[sage swan]

I will say though, it's a Very good roll of a crusher

[strange kestrel]

and in exchange we buy any t4 blessing we want

[mossy scarab]

Make milk suck less

[misty raven]

I have 1 crusher. I should use it more but I lack blessings.

[sage swan]

[lean lark]

the only blessing you need on crusher is skullcrusher

[misty raven]

Damn is that a bonk stick

[sage swan]

I changed carapace to Flak already

But otherwise, it's been incredibly fun to use

[misty raven]

Yea. I have like no blessings. That 1 crusher I have? It's like the crusher I've had.

[crude lake]

Before I make my own spreadsheet, is there already a breakpoint spreadsheet with all weapons and enemies?

[sage swan]

I wish i had that one alternate crusher skin, i have no clue where people got it. The one that turns it into a big flanged mace

[misty ravine]

Fatshark hates deterministic mechanics for obtaining gear. I'm surprised they even allowed us to buy a chosen perk off a list, eventually

[copper hawk]

Oh

Didn't the new cosmetics drop 2day?

[royal vortex]

one of the first cosmetic shop rotations iirc

[copper hawk]

Any1 see what they are?

[royal vortex]

but yea that skin is sick

[copper hawk]

Rerunz ?

[crude lake]

Reruns

[ornate bone]

Probably the weapon customization mod

[copper hawk]

Bwuh

[crude lake]

Well, slightly tweaked reruns

Very slightly

[sage swan]

I was there from the beginning, i guess i just didn't see it

[ornate bone]

Could be the plugin that puts basically everything available

[sage swan]

It's extremely handy being able to bat crushers to the ground so easily

Crushers, ragers, maulers

[whole vapor]

Please sign my petition to change the Crusher’s name to Bonk or Yeet Stick

[rose flower]

The new Eviscerator may be a little dookie in some ways but do I just live spamming lights on a horde and having no brain power

[north sedge]

oh sweet a new skull mask to identify bad players by

new evisc is fine?

both evisc are like, fine

[frozen glen]

but but

the 4 target cap

[north sedge]

it's funny the conversation is always either saying how amazing it is or how bad the target cap is

and the truth is like...it's a fine weapon?

same with evisc

it's fine

both kinda boring, but fine

[open bramble]

Old evi has a decently sized moveset that you can dip into

[coarse birch]

ive never had an issue with new evis although i havent played old evis in a while

[north sedge]

eh

[coarse birch]

to compare to

[royal vortex]

i only use weapons with a target cap of 1

[open bramble]

Like if you were to set up a complexity range for zealot weapons
Like "pants-shittingly hodor simple" to "requires some thought"
You'd have rashad at one end, and like crusher/crucis at the other?

[frozen glen]

this guy uses bmless combat axe

[open bramble]

And maybe evi somewhere in the middle

[north sedge]

old evisc somewhere on the on the low end of middle

new evisc down there with rashad

[royal vortex]

old evis hardly required combos really

[coarse birch]

it was just light heavy push attack

[royal vortex]

there were a bunch of different ways to skin the same target cap of 4 cat

[coarse birch]

from what i remember

[royal vortex]

well like

ppl would gaslight themselves into thinking different sequences of moves with the same damage profile did something different

because the only properly good cleave move was the h1

if u were being "optimal" (you didn't need to and plenty of ppl got away with lightspamming) u would use the h1 as much as possible

[misty raven]

Ah but there was a combo

[south folio]

don't say it

[royal vortex]

h1 qq is unironically based

[south folio]

you bitch

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[north sedge]

i just find it odd how much evisc is talked about, especially the new one

[frozen glen]

queue the 4chan evis edit

[royal vortex]

ppl love the eviscerators

[north sedge]

it's just like, play a 1/4 of a match with it and you know everything about it, there's nothing to talk about really

[royal vortex]

i actually enjoy newvis more in terms of complexity because the bloodthirsty one shot stuff is cool

and the push attack isn't literally just a light that costs stamina

[misty raven]

It's a heavy 2 handed chainsword. It's new and they like its simple moveset of horizontal lights and strikedown heavies. Nothing special but it's a chainsword they like

[north sedge]

visually they're cool, but both make me go nap time

[lean lark]

its called eviscerator 15

[royal vortex]

oh yeah i dont use either very much

[lean lark]

you fucking moron

[royal vortex]

because its very zzz

but chain weaps in general dont really feel like they have a good rhythm to me so i use them sparingly

[open bramble]

It just falls into the same category of weapons as knife where people are overly passionate about it because of some quality that it has (knives make you go fast, and evis are giant chain saws)

[royal vortex]

yea

[tawny tangle]

What's an exciting to weapon by comparison?

[strange kestrel]

be a chain axe enthusiast

[royal vortex]

i love the crusher

[north sedge]

crusher/crucis

[royal vortex]

used to run crucis hammer a lot

[ember yew]

bonk enthusiast

[light holly]

@muted sonnet

[royal vortex]

the crusher has fast (but not painfully so) attacks and rewards u for knowing what each move in the set does (and headshotting)

and lets u fkin BULLY melee elites

and crucis has a super high skill ceiling esp cuz of how the special works and how u have to manipulate hitboxes to use it properly

chain weapons in general are mostly just faceroll mash button kill stuff maybe use crit cdr win

[north sedge]

of the chain weapons, im enjoy chaxe the most

[royal vortex]

and evis in particular has swing timings that throw me off

yea chaxe is fun now

[muted sonnet]

[royal vortex]

i like the new one on vet

1-shotting muties with a thrust heavy w/o revving is some shit

[ripe quest]

Didn't they tweak it where QQing is now mega marginal?

[north sedge]

the whole new evisc can one shot crushers omg! thing was funny to me because chaxe does it with less setup

[ripe quest]

For the Mk II

[royal vortex]

no idea tbh

[olive raven]

It’s also super funny that people care so much about crusher breakpoints

[royal vortex]

but like u dont have to wind up a heavy with thrust ignore the fact it still takes so fuckign LONG to charge a heavy

[ripe quest]

From what I understand the current "best" anyways is H1 L2 Block Cancel

[ripe quest]

New Evis also requires a crit.

[north sedge]

yea

that's what i was alluding to with the less setup bit

[royal vortex]

i think the bloodthirsty interaction is cool

because otherwise its a dead t4 exclusive blessing

so like... it is nice that it does something

[north sedge]

best guns for crusher is what interests me because i dont run any melee weapons that have problems with crushers

i kinda forget the other stuff exists

[royal vortex]

and like u have an ult that lets u mow em down

i do wish we had more anti-armor ranged options on zealot MELTA

MELTA

i just want a meltagun

please god

[ripe quest]

Boltgun, Revolver, anything with Fury ult.

Ranged weapons just kinda can piggy back off of rend or rend like sources.

[royal vortex]

i like popping a red stim with brauto while at 20 momentum stacks and chastising into crushers/maulers

u feel badass

its the only real use ive found for red stims

is brautos

[rose flower]

I’ve heard people call the new one doodoo so. Idk. I just like it so I don’t care

[ripe quest]

It's worse at crowds, better at single target compared to the Mk II. It's a fine weapon.

[misty ravine]

It's slower and doesn't exploit crit mechanics etc. as well as the most powerful weapons, or throw everything on their asses effortlessly like the Crusher, but it's perfectly good. I use it because I like the sound it makes

[rose flower]

I just like the mindless light spam on crowds

[dense field]

people are wrong

[proven merlin]

How is shred on this axe? should it and block efficiency be swapped or left and both perks swapped?

[spark ember]

Idk who are those people who call new evi bad, it's literal beast of a weapon that shreds hordes, shreds elites and shreds bosses...

[dense field]

shred -> headtaker or decimator, block -> flak

[light holly]

Would still argue for unarmoured
But no harm in trying both

Unarmoured because it let's you one shot scab brusiers

[dense field]

unarmored are not *bad*

[light holly]

In the head

Improves cleave

[dense field]

But it's only for one enemy type

[light holly]

Well

Its an important breakpoint

It allows you to actually cleave many unarmoured as far as I can tell during hordes

[dense field]

And bruisers are dying in one hit anyway after you stack HT/Disdain/Assault

[light holly]

Hm

I would definetly test it

[dense field]

It is a good breakpoint though

If dregs get buffed it is def worth considering

[wraith helm]

shred for a crit focused zealot is actually very good. block could be maniac or flak (Your choice) and its a very solid melee weapon

||And also better than a knife||

[olive raven]

Yes fr

[north sedge]

we've been over this like 3 times this week, unamoured is not necessary

[olive raven]

Unarmored is

A

“Well I have unarmored and block efficiency, I’ll change block efficiency and a blessing”

Not a perk you change it to

[wooden river]

Just saw the Swift Certainty pin

That's neat, I didn't know it was camera-dependent

[light holly]

Well

Did we test it

🥹

[subtle cedar]

I guess if you're running shred for some reason and so don't have headtaker stacks for a bp on scab bruisers?

But like, there's significantly better options for crit builds

[light holly]

All I can say rn is

[wooden river]

Swift Certainty is basically Naruto Mall Ninja simulator

[light holly]

My rashad for my vet, doesn't one shot headshot scab bruisers now that I'm actually building this

[wooden river]

it's pretty funny

[light holly]

I'm gonna turn into a broken record

Because yes, a zealot with a few buffs can likely meet it in a horde

[fiery ingot]

what about the more important breakpoints tho

[ornate bone]

Any patch- actual Hammer Zealot one shot build ? cant find anything

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/kakashi-fortnite-shippuden-bullet-time-matrix-gif-25995237

[light holly]

I need to do more reading to see
3 Tap crusher
1 tap on Ragers

[dense field]

ok Hadron

Not sure what to do next though, Haymaker is kinda interesting

[olive raven]

Haymaker to uncanny

[olive raven]

Shroud, Martyrdom

That’ll get you close

Duelist and a few other things

[desert vessel]

does anyone have a full build skill tree for martyrdom I can see?

[frozen fable]

assasin/backstabbing path dosen't seem great

I get out preformed by sniper veterans

or I end up pulling more enemys wecuse Ihave to go in deep

[north sedge]

i usually dont pull this card, but this is zealot chat, stop telling zealots to do unarmoured

[olive raven]

fr

[copper hawk]

Start telling zealors to do unarmored

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hark-gif-19528579

[light holly]

I should probably just ping azreal and actually get the full deets on it

[buoyant pecan]

If you roll well enough for seduction
Everyone eventually becomes unarmored

[north sedge]

It's not complicated, at all

[light holly]

Me as I

Make it complicated

For more information

[copper hawk]

Ermmmm

[fiery ingot]

damn dude this new zealot cosmetic is sick

[median steeple]

the madmen have broken free

[glass pelican]

Howdy zealot chat

anyone have the knife zealot image?

[north sedge]

which one

[glass pelican]

idk how to explain it but the one taking the piss out of knife zealot that has edgy text

[sharp zodiac]

Gates

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-22897697

[glass pelican]

thanks

[median steeple]

gyawwwd damn this rotation is ass

welp it is what it is

[north sedge]

nah man there's another skull mask to advertise your terrible knifeness with

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-flawless-ultimate-spotless-gif-13993155

[steel sedge]

aight just loaded into a game and the team before me failed the mission

free money i guess

[olive raven]

That happens yea

[steel sedge]

twice in a row now

[median steeple]

ah the pub experience

[steel sedge]

guy even blamed me for replacing their bot even though i haven't seen the map yet

[median steeple]

yup definitely the pub experience lmao

[steel sedge]

nah just straight up i said tf u on and left

got 10k ordos tho

[ornate bone]

how are the heavy swords and which one is considered the best one?

[sharp zodiac]

Uhh

Mfiing

Both are good

It really is up to preference

[ornate bone]

isn't there 3?

[lean lark]

hswords are the best zealot weapons

[faint mountain]

a little tense

[lean lark]

hs6 being the best, hs9 being the easiest

[ornate bone]

reasons being?

[lean lark]

hsword strikedowns oneshot every elite except crushers, flak ragers and maulers

and this

[dense field]

I ended up replacing executor

[ornate bone]

what makes one easier tho?

[lean lark]

hs9 looping vertical heaveis

vertical lights

[heavy arch]

me first time in months opening the cash shop store

were the prices always this high or am i tripping

[steel sedge]

just got blamed for dying after 10 literall ogres were rushing me while the entire team was already dead

[north sedge]

there's been a couple premium sets that were more, but otherwise normal pricing

[heavy arch]

dang

ill stick with my poverty aesthetic

pay all that money to look cool and the npcs still call you reject

[ornate bone]

your clip would make it look like the mk9 is better

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-warhammer-40k-brick-grimdark-darktide-gif-7305957782246441871

[lean lark]

what

do you not see the major differences

[ornate bone]

from the 3 clips, the first two end sooner for the mk9

[lean lark]

yeah, a 3s difference between horde ttk

then its a 7s difference between elite ttk

that's immeasurably more valuable than 3s faster horde clear

[frank night]

poxwalkers and groaners are window dressing these days

[ornate bone]

what elites? the first two clips are just poxwalkers

[lean lark]

the final clip

[young osprey]

Is Martyrdom triggered by purple wounds?

[median steeple]

waiter waiter! more poxwalkers please!

[night cypress]

the knife!

[median steeple]

yes martyrdom is activated by any loss of wounds including corruption damage

[young osprey]

Right, corruption was the word

Derp

[copper hawk]

Ourple

[median steeple]

Drank

[sturdy owl]

Anyone know any UI mods that would let me put my surgical stacks near my crosshair?

[young temple]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/10

Not sure that would do it unless it's an existing element

[median steeple]

you would prob have to move the status bar next the crosshair

[frozen glen]

move ur whole ass buff bar below ur crosshair using that mod

[olive raven]

🫠

[median steeple]

slapable ass head

[shrewd minnow]

Any potential in this shotgun?

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-slapped-slap-lunch-slapped-gif-15374199

[hallow hatch]

is this shotgun even good??

[median steeple]

the kant is a very good shotgun and those stats are (prettygood) I say upgrade it for the slim chance you get a good blessing and perk due to the fact

that the ones on that are not very good atm

[hallow hatch]

ok great thanks, do you know if the new thunder hammer is better or the old one is better?

[north sedge]

That combo would a bit workable on a kant, not on the agri

[median steeple]

the ironhelm and crucis serve different purposes, the ironhelms special is for horde clear and crucis is for single target

so its kind of what you want your hammer to do

both are decent in their own right

[north sedge]

Crucis has a better moveset, special does 25% more dmg but stops on first hit, ironhelm goofy moveset, special cleaves until an elite hit

[ornate bone]

personally, fuck ironhelm. easy heavy spam wins

idc how good a weapon is if it has weird ass movesets

[hallow hatch]

I have this hammer and not sure what blessing to replace that bad one with

[median steeple]

slaughterer or headtaker

[north sedge]

Hammerblow to slaughterer or headtaker

[median steeple]

yeah keep thrust

[ornate bone]

and change the 20% flak to 25%

[median steeple]

thrust 4 is really good and like the holy grail of blessings due to its unwillingness to drop

[north sedge]

Or do unyielding for more boss dmg

[ornate bone]

impact = stagger value and not damage, right?

[hallow hatch]

This knife I was told to replace executor with uncanny strike

what do yall think of replacing it with Precognition?

[north sedge]

Uncanny is bis

[hallow hatch]

I cant seem to get Uncanny 4 😭

[median steeple]

banished to gamble for eternity

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143287281868877824/1190031673547571320/caption-12-1-1.gif?ex=65a0525c&is=658ddd5c&hm=3244dce3cca74251c7b74dec0ee4a83ba8c27de6528e16aaed03694935426461&

[sturdy owl]

Big thanks, I'll check it out

[sturdy owl]

Most unfortunate that you're stuck with crit damage on that

if you change a blessing

I'd keep executor and replace mercy killer personally

They unfucked it so bleed stacks don't remove it

[hallow hatch]

I have this knife

[sturdy owl]

The penetration stat is unfortunate but uncanny will rectify that, try it out and see how you like it

[hallow hatch]

do you think i should upgrade this knife?

im like so low on mats

[sturdy owl]

Low first target is unfortunate, you could just absorb executor t4 though

[hallow hatch]

ok

[sturdy owl]

Are you playing damnation?

If you aren't I recommend doing so, large difference in material gains

[hallow hatch]

So honestly ive done auric

but thing is I havent played within a year

and i just started yesterday, I have no knowledge of the current game.

[heavy arch]

go auric or bust

NO FEAR

[hallow hatch]

I am able to do auric difficulty maps, I stopped playing but I had very decent gear for back then so im able to use it now since crafting is out.

[heavy arch]

probably still good

[open pollen]

Anyone know how to access pins with new discord mobile app? I might be too dumb to figure it out myself.

[heavy arch]

only bolter fell off hard

[hallow hatch]

I never really liked the bolter

too slow to pull out and reload

[heavy arch]

braced auto still good, infantry auto good revolver shotties flamer

a lot more weapons are viable these days

[hallow hatch]

oh boy when i found out how crafting works i fixed my braced auto gun, it went from this to this

[ripe quest]

Boltgun can be used fine, just hard to compete with the Revolver's kit.

[open pollen]

Nvm, I am a smart boy. You can click the channel header, go to pins, then click one of the results, then scroll till you see the "added to pinned messages" message and click the link there. This will actually load the pinned message links and such.

[vapid mirage]

I just set it to the normal design

[open pollen]

That also works

[vapid mirage]

Since holy fuck is the new one inefficient and atrocious

[open pollen]

Also, might not need to write that abbreviated guide. This dude already did a good job of it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235

That covers all the stuff, really. Probably don't need to write a guide at all. But, I do like writing, so maybe theres still a need for a kerf styled guide.

[delicate needle]

a 384 base

[sharp zodiac]

New meta

[hallow hatch]

yeah haha 🤣, ofcourse they fixed the numbers.

[open pollen]

@lusty turtle
This is a really helpful zealot guide, might be worth pinning:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235

[lusty turtle]

just a heads up, doing a fair few medical bits atm, try n @ wardens group ping instead incase i'm not free

[hallow hatch]

What do i replace Terrifying barrage with?

[open pollen]

Aye, sorry. Best of luck!

[hushed knoll]

HI ILY

GOOD LUCK

[lusty turtle]

np np, just lettin u know so it doesn't get missed lmao

[ripe quest]

Yee a bunch of these have propped up over time. iirc Pyrex has some on Psyker. Good if people don't want to ask a dataminer what a talent does.

[open pollen]

Indeed, indeed. All the technical stuff is out there, but its good to see it aggregated like this.

[sturdy owl]

I spent 15k on trying to get a not shit rolled revolver and it doesn't even one shot naked ragers in the head on a crit

[north sedge]

🤔

You aiming long enough for a crit?

[north sedge]

I just blow my crab shaped ocarina and gain the knowledge i seek

[sturdy owl]

Yes, I am

[blissful sinew]

crit weakpoints should slap even though those stats are kinda eh... damage dropoff maybe?

[north sedge]

Is pretty good revolver

[sturdy owl]

This is at 5m

[frank night]

bro just wanted to use his pizza cutters in peace ) :

[open pollen]

Even with a point blank anoint in blood shot?

[sturdy owl]

Don't have annoint, it's going to be annoying if I have to take that

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/slicing-pizza-baby-yoda-viralhog-pizza-cut-gif-17948164

[open pollen]

Its a 1 talent investment. Or do you mean waiting till they are in range?

[sturdy owl]

I'm very tight on points currently

[open pollen]

Darn

[blissful sinew]

sheesh i guess even with perfect stats and point blank it doesnt oneshot dreg ragers on crit heads

thats crazy

[frank night]

that is crazy indeed minecraft steve

[open pollen]

Then I would say stick to using the revolver for specialists and such? What is the go to tactic for rager elimination these days?

[frank night]

shoot them with a gun

[open pollen]

Double darn

[uncut epoch]

what's the stat priority for the tigrus mk 15? like what should be above 70% and whatnot

[frank night]

or a psyker just slaughters them enmasse

that also happens

[sturdy owl]

Well mine isn't perfect stats, but perfect probably wouldn't get me 232 more damage

[blissful sinew]

its still two shot bodyshot crits anyway, just aim for collaterals instead

[royal vortex]

u cant dump damage pen or shredder

ideally mobility is the lowest but cleave targets also doesnt matter all that much

[north sedge]

I just kill em with melee usually unless i happen to be a shooting a special i guess

[frank night]

ive accidentally hit traded with their invisible noodly appendages enough that i just shoot them dead

stop resisting

[sturdy owl]

24 damage off crit bodyshotting a naked rager at close range with annoint

[royal vortex]

i play crusher and become the rager except instead of various kitchen utensils i have a long stick

[ripe quest]

You can hit it with Anoint in Blood or with Duellist up.

[frank night]

50000 years of warfare

and humanity still cant get beyond

long stick with heavy or pointy thing on the end

[royal vortex]

we advanced to

long stick with a battery and heavy thing on the end

so

[north sedge]

Hitachi magic wand?

[heavy arch]

cuz how do you beat a long stick

an even longer stick

[frank night]

altho meat grinder is a lil weird like

[open pollen]

We do too! The stick is now electrified

[frank night]

it's anecdotal only

[royal vortex]

last i checked the crusher doesn't make an enemy vibrate

[frank night]

but I swear to god that I've one shot ragers in real gameplay that werent touched otherwise

[royal vortex]

that's more chainaxe territory

[open pollen]

Can you imagine an elite enemy that uses a power sword?

[grand estuary]

Mine will one shot! I have 79 damage 79 Crit

[frank night]

like im talking dudes 50 yards away in the patrol that I really shouldn't be aggroing yet

[grand estuary]

Unless they nerfed it

[frank night]

but its glowing yellow so i shoot at it

[north sedge]

Have you even seen heavy special? Everything gets their socks knocked off (in ecstasy)

[blissful sinew]

annoint or no?

[vapid mirage]

Yes, they are called "Veteran"

[grand estuary]

Yeah

[royal vortex]

glowing yellow

exe stance

[open pollen]

I cannae kill veterans. I tried, they just get mad.

[royal vortex]

if u have hand cannon the rending mitigates falloff

[open pollen]

I want one I can best in combat

[royal vortex]

because falloff is tied to adms

for some

fucking

reason

[frank night]

i am firing a plasma gun

in my secret skunkworks build

[royal vortex]

why did you remind me of that

this day has been mildly distressing every time u bring this up it gets worse

[open pollen]

A gunslinger or shredder elite might also be cool. I feel like the director doesn't have enough elites to work with since it keeps spamming 10 of the same one at once.

[heavy arch]

need psyker elite

thatd be cool

[open pollen]

Psyker elite would be 10/10. Or some nurgle equivalent.

[royal vortex]

if u crit it should work at any distance

[open pollen]

Plauge priest

[blissful sinew]

nvm im dumb lol

[median steeple]

plauge

[royal vortex]

lmao

[blissful sinew]

i was thinking non-crits xd

[open pollen]

I bet the scabs got psykers, they are chaos undivided, no?

[median steeple]

no both scabs and dregs are nurgle

[royal vortex]

i want them to do an update where they add a shit ton of staves

and enemy psykers

[median steeple]

the only undivided enemy is the Dhost

[open pollen]

I would love an enemy "shielder" elite. Squishy, but spawns protective barriers for allies. Walls or domes or bubbles or something.

[heavy arch]

whats strongest zealot crit wep

[open pollen]

Really!? But they aint green.

[frosty herald]

we dont have chaos undivided enemies yet

[open pollen]

Hmm, missed opportunity. I thought these traitors were CD and just helping the local nurgle cult.

Like Chaos Mercs for hire

[drifting wolf]

nah it's all nurgle

[gusty lynx]

Hah, hahahah.

Fuck.

[open pollen]

Its always nurgle :/

[frosty herald]

moebian guard basically turned traitor after coming back from a huge battle

[median steeple]

?? the scabs literally glow green

[open pollen]

I thought that was splinter cell shit!

The scab brusers don't glow

[median steeple]

yeah he kind of gives off sam fisher vibes

[open pollen]

And the sniper does too

[frosty herald]

very not sneaky sam fisher

[royal vortex]

i mean a lotta the guys scream "for nurgle"

[median steeple]

Sniper, shooters, gunners all glow green

[royal vortex]

or "the rot take you"

[open pollen]

I thought only the dregs did that

The scabs are all tacticool

And the dregs are all religiousy

[frank night]

its all nurgle

[royal vortex]

the dregs are part of the admonition cult which presumably makes them more zealous but everything says nurgle corruption

[frank night]

its a nurgle cult + the guys who joined the nurgle cult

[hushed knoll]

HI MITTINS

[royal vortex]

the "theyre undivided" thing always struck me as kinda genestealer-tier "i wish it was this way" more than ppl having any basis to say it

[hushed knoll]

WOOIIII

HI SHOOJSI

JOSHI

[open pollen]

I ain't saying yer wrong. Only that I wish you were.

[royal vortex]

FUCK

[hushed knoll]

JOSHI

[drifting wolf]

yeah i'm guessing the cult was already in tertium prior to the moebian sixth's return, and it's just that the sixth allowed them to start spreading everywhere

[frank night]

this guys eye protection is literally an inversed nurgle symbol

[hushed knoll]

SORRY I’m drunk

[frank night]

oh no

[royal vortex]

HIDE

i have already been

fucking murdered

dude came out SWINGING

[hushed knoll]

JOSHIOIIIII

IOY SUDS

ILY dude*

[frank night]

undivided wouldnt rly change much

imo

[open pollen]

Aye, but CD would borrow power from every dark god, no?

[frosty herald]

Dont think well see chaos undivided in the game

[open pollen]

They can have a little nurgle, as a treat

[frank night]

like the ragers would just be shouting something different

[royal vortex]

if they borrowed power from every dark god u would see literally any inclination of this happening

its all nurgle

[frank night]

and the trapper would be dressed like the fan art

[royal vortex]

everything in this game screams nurgle

esp the part where the entire war on tertium is started by them releasing a plague

[open pollen]

Again, yer probably right. I just wish you were not.

[median steeple]

I do wish scabs were chaos undivided

[royal vortex]

my wish is for daemonic enemies more than anything else

[frank night]

I don't thin kit would change much

the scabs dont fight like full on nurgle troops

[median steeple]

god please add rot flies

[frank night]

they p much already fight like undivided troops with regular guns

they're just covered in gameshow gunge

[royal vortex]

rot flies aren't gonna happen because i dont think they want an enemy you can't reliably walk up to and hit with a stick

[open pollen]

Exactly. Which is why I would prefer if they were CD mercenaries.

Its not too late to retcon that, no?

[frosty herald]

beast of nurgle

[royal vortex]

is the beast of nurgle in the fucking air

[median steeple]

I do hope the next major updates focus on the dregs due to the fact they're calling the shots

[frosty herald]

no but i cant hit the rfucking thing

[royal vortex]

that is entirely a mental limitation

[frank night]

this is a you problem

[open pollen]

I think a rot fly could be good boss fight. Flies around a bit then lands, rinse repeat

[hushed knoll]

MITTINS notice me

[royal vortex]

thank u MITTINS

[open pollen]

Like the twins fight

[hushed knoll]

I need MITTINS to guide me

[frank night]

helo stan

[hushed knoll]

Why is my phone capitalizing mittins

[royal vortex]

i want a super juiced plague ogryn

[ornate bone]

To be fair

[hushed knoll]

HI DOUGUHHHH

IOY

[open pollen]

Banegryn

[hushed knoll]

ILY

[north sedge]

Finally stan isn't making typos with his new phone

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/salazar-resident-evil4-dancing-gif-26009729

[ornate bone]

Sometimes enemies shoot us through unreachable places

[royal vortex]

help me

[frank night]

magic

[royal vortex]

he has deformed me

[delicate needle]

when do we get the psyker boss that shoots lightning at us

[frosty herald]

rot fly would be a good boss

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-senate-attempt-on-my-gif-8987055

[ornate bone]

Even the ones we have now aren't limiting themselves to melee reach

[frosty herald]

we have plenty of open areas in missions

[delicate needle]

or is like the wizard boss from vt2 and he's riding a chaos spawn

[median steeple]

he only deforms you because you allow it

[hushed knoll]

Hi how dann ioeojeieo you

I hallo you

Help

Can

[open pollen]

Green lightning. Vortigaunt lul.

[heavy arch]

okay so it's a psyker boss right but all he does is force push and u fight on a floating platform, fatshark hire me

[royal vortex]

this is wholly different from an enemy mechanically designed around existing in an unreachable area

[delicate shadow]

I see Josho has been turned into red mist

[royal vortex]

and is not a good point

[north sedge]

Beautiful

[ornate bone]

You'd think after the 6th they'd stop

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[royal vortex]

because there are not enemies that fly in any prior tide games

because it is designed around everything being something u can, in a vacuum, walk up to and hit

[ornate bone]

I'll show you a good point

[royal vortex]

it is an entirely different issue that sometimes the maps allow for

tomfoolery

[hushed knoll]

One hi show is

[median steeple]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1LH6qDHKcYxGd2/d1337PXlZ94A?invite=cr-MSxPaFAsMTk0NjM5OTEyLA I cast wind !

[hushed knoll]

Aquila

[royal vortex]

he popped my head like a goddamn watermelon

[frosty herald]

give rotflies the chaos wastes skull ai

[frank night]

a full on flying enemy is imo something that only works if you have a guaranteed way of progressing the encounter if you're incompetent and red ammo

[delicate shadow]

hi Stan

[median steeple]

or here me out

toad

[frank night]

so like a set piece where you take control of skyfire

[median steeple]

add da toad

[royal vortex]

plague toads/nurglings/plaguebearers are what i want

[frosty herald]

just make it swoop down

[hushed knoll]

Would you say that 29 is mid-twenties

[heavy arch]

no

[delicate shadow]

uhhhh, sure why not

[open pollen]

Didn't hagglebag burgletoot hang out in unreachable areas for half the fight?

[frank night]

ill make u swoop down

[median steeple]

I dont think we're getting nurglings as an enemy

[heavy arch]

thats what the phrase late 20s is for

[royal vortex]

nurglings that come out and fight similar to ragers in lil balls of like 4

[frosty herald]

fatshark has models for nurglings during geheimenisnacht just put them in

[royal vortex]

would be funny

[median steeple]

I would love to fight them

[frank night]

the chaos sorceror boss had add phases

[frosty herald]

they even have animations

[frank night]

and was a set piece

[median steeple]

kicking small daemon children

[royal vortex]

no idea i didnt put 2000 hours in a year into vermintide

but boss fights are generally not designed the same way

that enemies u can spawn in random places in maps are

[ornate bone]

Moonlight Butterfly

[median steeple]

shut up

[delicate shadow]

Halescourge is reachable the entire fight

[median steeple]

do not mention that boss

[frank night]

dont speak to me mud woman

[ornate bone]

Flying boss, would rest on the bridge periodically for the player to smash it

[frank night]

oh its sterling

[royal vortex]

because the karnak twins can teleport into an area u can't reach

and uh

[frank night]

hi sterling

[royal vortex]

probs shouldnt make enemies do that

[ornate bone]

I'll mud your woman

[delicate shadow]

Nurgloth has phases he's not reachable but those are timed segments of the battle similar to when the twins fuck off for the gas phase

[ornate bone]

MittEns

[frank night]

you cannot force an e on me

[frosty herald]

give hardlocked walls for flying enemies

[open pollen]

Oh, for sure. I think would only work as boss fight.

[royal vortex]

jarvis

summon the screenshot of his steam account

[frank night]

ur really assuming a lot of fatshark's coding competence

for a single boss

[olive raven]

@delicate shadow babes I just got told my professor curved a class

[royal vortex]

hot take

[olive raven]

I got a fucking A- not a B 💀

[royal vortex]

next boss fight should have a more interesting arena

[frosty herald]

the twins are well designed

[royal vortex]

than a fkin circle

[ornate bone]

Oh no

[royal vortex]

cheese wheel

[delicate shadow]

lol get curved

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-tissue-shitpost-gif-24136076

[ornate bone]

Honestly same

[frank night]

its a circle for the gas

[north sedge]

How about an oval

[ornate bone]

I want the game to use verticality properly

[hushed knoll]

Hi

[olive raven]

Can we get

[royal vortex]

i don't like how the gas is setup

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-spin-gif-21121522

[olive raven]

A vertical map

[royal vortex]

it's too fitness gram pacer test for my liking

[olive raven]

For the next boss

[frosty herald]

next bossfight should be a daemon

[royal vortex]

what i want

for the gas

[olive raven]

Just a set of ladders

[ornate bone]

Give me shit like the boss slamming specific platforms

[royal vortex]

is that the safezone is constantly moving

and u have to move around the entire circle

[frank night]

fuck verticality

[royal vortex]

which would be cool

[hushed knoll]

I want MITTINS and JOSHI to not j mad at each other

[frank night]

im not going back to the torrent stairs

[hushed knoll]

Why are their named Canada

[open pollen]

Bossfight on plr_hightower

[hushed knoll]

Capitalized

[frosty herald]

give dregs a daemon engine

[royal vortex]

hey it works when they break up sightlines and handle the aggro better

[median steeple]

country that why

[royal vortex]

the best part of warren

is that balcony area

[ornate bone]

Hab Brazilko

[royal vortex]

but thats also cuz u start at the top

and work ur way down

so u dont get

[north sedge]

Stan adjusting to the new phone well

[royal vortex]

CURSE OF 4000 SHOOTERS ON TOP OF YOUR HEAD

[frosty herald]

its clear that the story is taking a break from scabs and zola

[delicate shadow]

the best part of verticality in tide is watching the audio melt down in real time

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-gif-7579664463809719282

[frosty herald]

unless wolfer wants to have revenge

[vocal pulsar]

br*tain has no verticality, so it makes sense that mittins hates it]

[frank night]

why has mankar turned against me

[royal vortex]

(watching because u cant fkin hear anything over 4 muties all on different floors screaming in ur ears)

[vocal pulsar]

i am defending you

[frank night]

suspicious

[open pollen]

Oh, like it takes place in the warp and you need to stay in null field to avoid taking corruption damage? Poor psykers.

[north sedge]

Also wish staniel a happy birthday

[ornate bone]

Br*tish people when the building has more than a store on the bottom floor and an apartment above

[delicate shadow]

hb stannus

[royal vortex]

i wish warren's balcony segment lasted longer

that part is so much more interesting

than all the open square areas u fight in

[ornate bone]

Like

[royal vortex]

well ok

the part where the cspawn can put you above the map

not very cool

[open pollen]

Balcony segment?

[royal vortex]

especially when ur the last fkin dude alive

[royal vortex]

after the mid event

[ornate bone]

One of the most interesting parts of the game is breakfall and vaulting to avoid fire

[open pollen]

Also, hate the obscura den fog fight.

[royal vortex]

that mid event is so badly designed

[open pollen]

Oops all circles

[royal vortex]

good lord

[frosty herald]

using chaos spawns and bursters to sequence break'

[royal vortex]

we were doing so good with mercantile

[frank night]

josho had one therapist event with a sniper and now hates it

[royal vortex]

and then they dropped this turd

[open pollen]

I actually like the open streets.

ALSO, WHY ISN'T IT INVESTIGATION!?

[north sedge]

Yea man let us use the hookahs

[delicate shadow]

I fucking hate the big open areas

[royal vortex]

my problem with the open areas at the start is that it plays the same way literally every time

[ornate bone]

They plopped this brownie in the Emperor-sanctioned toilet

[royal vortex]

there is no genuine variation

[frank night]

what I would also like I think

Is an extended wall breach section as a mid event with a branching path

[open pollen]

I wish they had better flank routes. But other than that I enjoy long sightlines

[frank night]

so you can enter the next area from different routes

[frosty herald]

we need dynamic maps

with stage hazards and stuff

[ornate bone]

I want Darktide to have Quake movement

[royal vortex]

that would be cool

[frosty herald]

pillar falls on you dead instantly

[open pollen]

Like getting choice between open street and tight interiors

[royal vortex]

tbh

[frank night]

I really like mercantile first map's breach section

cos you have to make a breach under fire

[royal vortex]

what i want is that after u do the ambush the segment is more about moving quickly to get out of the area the heretics have bottled u in

[open pollen]

And I love the starting area. Feels kinda like a world from kingdom hearts or something.

[royal vortex]

rather than moving to another foggy room

to sit in

the fog also needs to go

it sucks

[autumn fern]

guys is there a differnece between Catachan MK 3 and mk 6 version ?

[ornate bone]

The knife?

[royal vortex]

no they implemented the same weapon twice to fuck with us

yes

[autumn fern]

yeah

[royal vortex]

mk6 has 2 cleave heavies and then a stab

mk3 just has stabs

also different light attacks

[ornate bone]

no they implemented the same weapon twice to fuck with us

[north sedge]

The fog should hang low to the floor so it's just eye candy instead of whoops blind

[autumn fern]

so i guess for assassin build better mk3 right ?

[royal vortex]

mk3 also can spam special punch -> light for single target and the mk6 can't spam it

[royal vortex]

yea

[ornate bone]

Mk6 also is missing the more damaging third light

[delicate shadow]

snipers being able to shoot through the console in the middle of the event is funny and incredibly silly

[frosty herald]

Give maps hanging censers for fog

[royal vortex]

wg

wh

[open pollen]

I like the first bit, but not the hold section after. Too many gunners, not enough cover

[royal vortex]

@frank night THE SNIPER

WAS THERE

THE SNIPER WAS THERE

[ornate bone]

I'm telling

[royal vortex]

THE SNIPER. WAS. THERE.

[delicate shadow]

I learned the hard way

[autumn fern]

i just have this knife right now in store dunno if to get it

[frank night]

is the sniper in the room with us

can you see the sniper

[ornate bone]

I want them to give us a modifier for no enemy tagging

[median steeple]

whar

[open pollen]

More than DH and ledges, yeah?

[frank night]

a no enemy tagging mod is one in which i am simply an exe stance eddie

[ornate bone]

No

[frosty herald]

Dh isnt a stage hazard imo

[ornate bone]

Bad

[frosty herald]

Im talking the map itself

Like stuff falling or paths being created

[open pollen]

Like the bridges exploding in the hab escape?

[median steeple]

add tarantula turrets

[ornate bone]

I think there would be genuine enjoyment from squinting your eyes trying to find the bomber

[open pollen]

Where there are 3 but two get exploded at random

[frosty herald]

Yes

[royal vortex]

i found it

after

[frosty herald]

Add more random elements to maps

[frank night]

i will not live in the world where the game gleefully decides a single pixel of the bomber being exposed is enough line of sight for the bomber to perfectly land napalm between my pert ass cheeks

[open pollen]

I 110% agree. Reason I played/made so many No More Room in Hell maps.

(But DHs are stage hazards, fite me)

[royal vortex]

auric rlly does not need more god awful modes to filter through to find a map i wanna play

[north sedge]

waves of mutants should always be active

[royal vortex]

im going to encase you in amber

[hushed knoll]

Dough u miss you

U

I

[royal vortex]

U

[ornate bone]

Remove vent purge and give me no tagging

[hushed knoll]

I miss dough

[north sedge]

i miss me too

[frosty herald]

Incan should forward every single request we have to fatshark and the game will be the best game ever and sells a tidedillion dollars

[ornate bone]

Vent purge and lights out are weird

[median steeple]

tide sweep

[open pollen]

We need more investigation and repair missions. Warrens should be investigation instead of disruption. We only disrupt stuff at the end for fun.

[frank night]

did you find that sniper or just a sniper

[ornate bone]

One is just the other but even less visibility

[drifting wolf]

when was the last time lights out was vailable

available

[frank night]

I do not enjoy eyestrain modes

[royal vortex]

no idea

[royal vortex]

we needed both

[frosty herald]

We have one repair mission

[royal vortex]

p sure there's only 1 disruption besides warren

[frosty herald]

And i dont want to run the cryo cell mission 5 million times

[frank night]

I am bullied to take exe stance team vision when eyestrain mode is picked

[royal vortex]

but uh

mercantile shouldve been investigation

because u are basically trying to find the alleged stims

[delicate shadow]

They sent me a formal warning to stop telling them the shit y'all say, something about "OHSA" or w/e idk

[ornate bone]

I think lights out would be much more enjoyable if we lived 40 thousand years in the future and could use shoulder or head flashlights

[frosty herald]

Fuck osha

[median steeple]

down with the tyrants at OSHA

[royal vortex]

if u implement easily accessible flashlights

[ornate bone]

Fuck weapon flashlights

[royal vortex]

the point of lights out is no longer relevant

[blazing fossil]

I've had to deal with OSHA before, from a bad injury my workplace had

[open pollen]

Would like repair mission where you help fix a tank and guide it home.

[ornate bone]

Give them

BATTERIES

[blazing fossil]

girl got her hair caught up in a rotating shaft, scalped her

[frank night]

i have accessible flash lights

MG12 science

[open pollen]

PUSH THE CART. But the cart shoots stuff

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/king-crimson-gif-22172546

[royal vortex]

u regarded that experiment as so bad it should be expunged from the archives

so uh

no?

[frank night]

escorting a leman russ as a section would be cool

and the mid event is lowering barricades or destroying tank traps

[royal vortex]

the problem is like

[ornate bone]

Ideally the flashlight won't work at an infinite range

[royal vortex]

why is rannick sending

4 dudes

to escort a leman russ

[ornate bone]

And also not cover the whole screen

[royal vortex]

surely there are higher priority inquisitorial operations

[frank night]

its lost in the middle of the pig latin gunge zone

with a mcguffin

[blazing fossil]

Rannick: Strike teams are expendable, tanks are not

[frank night]

or have hallowette do it

or melk

cos they wanna sell the tank

[open pollen]

Only disagree because investigation symbol is clearly auspex

Should have at least one asupex section

[frank night]

or even have morrow have a 'soldiers gotta look out for soldiers innit' moment

[frosty herald]

Also

[copper hawk]

I hate auspex sections..

[frosty herald]

We dont have a villain figure for the dregs

[blazing fossil]

is disdain good for crusher or no?

[ornate bone]

Like, check out Ready or Not's dark sections

[royal vortex]

disdain is super meh

[delicate shadow]

they should add more bursters to the game

[royal vortex]

on any weapon

[ornate bone]

Disdain helps me hit a knife breakpoint

[royal vortex]

its every other swing which makes it super inconsistent

[ornate bone]

Certified John Darktide talent

[royal vortex]

especially considering the individual damage on a crusher's swings vary wildly because of the combos

[blazing fossil]

Ok just refunded disdain :D, might get desperation instead

[royal vortex]

desperation is super high value for crusher

[delicate shadow]

pfft must be desperate

[median steeple]

counter suggestion make bombers explode on death

[ornate bone]

In a way they do

Sometimes

[timber ether]

bombers should explode like ogryn box of grenades

[royal vortex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aed3ae9-79e3-4f49-a703-887458284211/crushin-revised?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button this is what i run with crusher except i meant to put columnus brauto instead of agri but im stupid

[north sedge]

oh josho nice agri there

[timber ether]

everyday im crushling

[delicate shadow]

they should bring back toughness break on touching fire AND keep the health damage it does currently, I think this would be very fair and reasonable and not annoying as fuck

[open pollen]

Once again, Ogryn Bombers with thumpers.

[royal vortex]

fire barrels are more dangerous than bomber fire now

because they ignore toughness

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143287281868877824/1190031673547571320/caption-12-1-1.gif?ex=65a0525c&is=658ddd5c&hm=3244dce3cca74251c7b74dec0ee4a83ba8c27de6528e16aaed03694935426461& for your transgression of a minor mistake: death

[blazing fossil]

I like to run beacon and chorus for auric pubs, but aside from that our builds align lol

[ornate bone]

I think they should've reduced the tick rate and kept them damaging

The problem wasn't necessarily the damage per tick, but how often it was applied

[royal vortex]

fire works exactly the way i want it to

it is nice

well i would have it be a % toughness drain instead of flat so that there's some element of toughness bypass there

[ornate bone]

Excuse me, I'll have you know if my 200 toughness iron will vet can tank it, so can you

[royal vortex]

but who cares

[ornate bone]

% is kino

Make everyone worry about it equally

[royal vortex]

and so that bomber res can be the one thing

that interacts with fire toughness damage

so that u actually have a reason to bring it if u want to

[delicate shadow]

they should just make it that for every second in fire your dpi is increased by the same % as % toughness you lost

[ornate bone]

Imagine having fire resistance instead of bomber and flamer

[royal vortex]

tbf the main draw is bomber res

fire is annoying because it fkin knocks you back (????)

flamer fire i mean

[median steeple]

the 5th character will have a fire extinguisher

thats it

nothing else

[delicate shadow]

getting knocked back by fire on ogryn is such a bizarre experience

[ornate bone]

It's your character realistically going AAAAAAAAAA in this realistic game

[delicate shadow]

just feels wrong

[royal vortex]

its the most jarring shit ever

ogryn is so goddamn slow

u get knocked back by a flamer and u are in a completely different situation than 10 seconds ago

[north sedge]

its just a crossover with powerwash simulator, dude just hoses down the fire

[royal vortex]

i hate it

[open pollen]

Still wish smokes could douse fire

[median steeple]

this is peak DLC right here

[ornate bone]

Same

[median steeple]

hire us fatshark

[open pollen]

Luv crossovers

[delicate shadow]

smokes are so weirdly gimped

no idea why

[median steeple]

I saw someone finally through a smoke and I couldnt tell what it did

[royal vortex]

i wish smokes were like fkin mustard gas grenades