zealot-class

[daring blaze]

so that's a guaranteed 20% for free every 8 seconds

[blissful sinew]

i should say im running blazing piety lol

[royal vortex]

iag is better but the brauto is fun

[fleet zealot]

crushers and monsters+ big elite packs

[royal vortex]

the columnus isn't bad by any means it performs the job it does well

[olive raven]

It’s just an meh node

[fleet zealot]

and it boosts the ticking damage and contact damage which matters when you chastise as well

[olive raven]

It looks better on paper

[native cargo]

Toughness regen is pretty strong on zealot without the momentum toughness regen

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/bzjprp

pew

[daring blaze]

It sure doesn't feel like it to me when I charge gunners

[ripe quest]

Overpressure is bugged. BA is mainly for patrol nuking.

[fleet zealot]

for general horde clear, no you aren't using blaze away, you'll burn through your ammo

[native cargo]

Which is why I don't have thay node because I rather put the point elsewhere

[olive raven]

It’s an inconsistent regeneration that maxes at an equivalent of 5% toughness per second

[fleet zealot]

but general horde clear doesn't need blaze away anyways

[olive raven]

It’s a very, very build specific node if you do take it

[native cargo]

Slide, dodge slide, chastise them, there are a good few ways to get close to gunners without sacrificing your toughness

[daring blaze]

I use inexorable judgement with both auxiliary nodes on my thunder hammer charge build

[north sedge]

i have better things to spend points on then momentum toughness

[olive raven]

On… hammer

[north sedge]

also on hammer

[olive raven]

I’m very curious to see this build.

[royal vortex]

20/8 is 2.5% a sec and equivalent to an enemy agnostic EWEW if you have 20 stacks

oftentimes you're at 10-15ish

[daring blaze]

You have never tried it.

[olive raven]

If you have 10

20 stacks is 5%

[daring blaze]

And you are already eager to talk shit

[native cargo]

Ultimately idc how you build your zealot but i will give my thoughts and advice

[north sedge]

i've never needed it

[native cargo]

Up to others to take it or leave it

[royal vortex]

ah math is hard

anyways the less stacks you have the worse it is

[shy badge]

With a 79% damage flamer with 75% ammo, with 20% carapice dmg (this was one of many unlucky upgrade rolls) aand blaze away IV, I did less than 15% damage to it with a full magazine

[blissful sinew]

mostly just looking for an ewew alternative as i never feel low on toughness when there is stuff to smack in front of me, just when i am trying to approach open rooms filled with gun toting goobers

guess i could just take good balance and slide around a lot

[royal vortex]

and you only get 20 guaranteed at the start of a fight, when you literally dont need toughness regen

[olive raven]

We aren’t shit talking anyone, we are giving constructive criticism of a node that has been found to be meh by most.

[quiet sonnet]

Fr!!!

[shy badge]

Seems utterly useless for killing crushers lmao

[north sedge]

chastise after stacking burn

[ripe quest]

It's probs just Lazorr's Thammer build but with that toughness node on Judgement instead of something else.

[shy badge]

My melee could kill it faster

[royal vortex]

it's a really bad node because it's toughness regen you can't control and is too low to have serious value when it procs

[daring blaze]

What's his Thammer build?

[dark zealot]

why are you trying to flamer a crusher?

[ripe quest]

You using Fury to take advantage of the armor downgrade?

[north sedge]

when there's like 20 of them

[south folio]

the magic of infinite cleave

[royal vortex]

it's specifically the "you cannot control" part of it that makes it so bad

[olive raven]

End of day if the build works for you, that’s great. Love that for you.

But, if you dont want to listen to potentially beneficial advice, that’s also your prerogative.

[dark zealot]

A. thats dumb, B. you do more optimal dps by applying burn stacks than raw damage

[royal vortex]

because momentum triggers off hitting stuff, and you're always hitting stuff

lotta the time you'll be at full toughness when you proc it

[olive raven]

Yea it’s an 8s minimum proc

[royal vortex]

if you want enemy-agnostic sustained toughness when being mobile you take second wind

[south folio]

you apply burn stacks by using the flamer on crushers?

[royal vortex]

which is ridiculously better

[olive raven]

Versus a constant proc or on dodge

[south folio]

you realize that DoTs also inherit your current buffs

chastise doesn't just apply to the flamer's direct damage

[native cargo]

Cus that mfer ugly and needs to be flamed

[shy badge]

Yes, I dont disagree, I'm saying the idea of trying to kill crushers with a flamer while voiding more uptime is silly

[daring blaze]

Not quite the same

I went left tree at the top

[frank night]

ho boy someone said optimal dps its time for a flashback

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[dark zealot]

no i mean there are ways to apply burn stacks faster and thus do better dps and kill faster or even get closer to killing than mag dumping on the target

[shy badge]

I'm not the one who said it, I'm saying its an insane idea and are trying to see how it works

[daring blaze]

And Holy Rev

[olive raven]

would you be able to share the talent tree per chance?

[royal vortex]

dude i remember when some guy said no melee could do more than 210 dps back on release

[olive raven]

💀

[south folio]

what are the other ways of applying more burn stacks that doesn't involve the flamer

[native cargo]

Have you had your cat food yet

[south folio]

kantrael shotty is limited to 10 stacks, and infernus on laspistol is similarly limited to like 12 or whatever

[daring blaze]

Of course my dear fellow

[ripe quest]

You can kill a patrol of them in a handful of seconds with Flamer. Last I checked BA allows for you to fully kill a Crusher at max stacks by the time the armor downgrade wears off.

[daring blaze]

How?

[dark zealot]

if you shoot the flamer on the target itll aplly stacks slower than going off and back on the target

[frank night]

i was working OUT

[daring blaze]

I feel lazy and don't want to recreate it in the buildmaker

How do people take the full screenshot of it

[olive raven]

Uh… screenshot, gameslantern idk

[daring blaze]

arghhhhhhh

[shy badge]

One full magazine with fury brought the damage up to 50% of health

[frank night]

afaik you cant take a shrunk down version in game

[olive raven]

Gameslantern or a modded tree

[royal vortex]

install the mod to compress your talent tree

[shy badge]

Still not worth it

[frank night]

unless im missing something

[south folio]

yes i'm aware

[daring blaze]

I'm going to have to make it on gameslantern....

[south folio]

you can also just do that at the same time though

[shy badge]

Are you not testing your weapons on damnnation or something? lol

[olive raven]

Tbh you don’t need to login so

[frank night]

do not install remain free of cybernetics

[south folio]

just flamer and wave your mouse around

[olive raven]

It’s quick

[south folio]

tada

[frank night]

do not chrome up

[ripe quest]

I'll grab a video for you.

[frank night]

maintain ur humanity

[royal vortex]

it's okay to admit u dont know how to do it grandpa

[shy badge]

no need, I just did it

[native cargo]

Doing them cat stretches and tree climbs yes :3

[royal vortex]

i had to help darcy mod her scoreboard to make the cspawn damage register

[north sedge]

bwuh

[opaque island]

look man if i can get awesome robot legs im going for it

[olive raven]

horrifying

[shy badge]

Oh and this is with anoint in blood on too

Simply just is a poor use of a flamer

Idk what to say

[frank night]

omelette du fromage

is something u could say

[shy badge]

I agree

[dark zealot]

the flesh is weak

[daring blaze]

@olive raven

[native cargo]

I'm not using nanomachines because I'm thinking long term. First ima shit my pants then three games later I'm marrying a hot red head

[olive raven]

Oh that is… interesting.

[opaque island]

Johnny

[olive raven]

Do you run wound curios?

[daring blaze]

No

[olive raven]

Then uh

[frank night]

there's a little man in my head who calls me corporat

[olive raven]

Bleed for the emperor is eh

[dark zealot]

just dont get wounded

[olive raven]

Like not very useful in that case

[daring blaze]

I know

I figure it helps with snipers at least

[frank night]

stop typing

[royal vortex]

bfte probably still saves u from getting brought straight to 1 from full hp

[daring blaze]

And don't see a much better choice

[royal vortex]

if u get meme overheaded

by a crackhead psyker spamdodging and dragging it into you

[olive raven]

It’s unfortunate point taxes there

[dark zealot]

never trust them magic people

they are cursed

[opaque island]

or the meme, i charge swing on the crusher, and i hit the guy behind it somehow

[olive raven]

Stuns really are ripping away some good hammer nodes from you

[daring blaze]

It is what it is

[royal vortex]

yea bfte isn't bad for giving u 1 extra overhead tanked

[olive raven]

But tbh I literally can’t see a way to keep stuns and do momentum

[native cargo]

Anyone spamming dodge trying to not drag a overhead onto me (impossible)

It's the sacrifice we make for speedy bois

what is unforgivable tho

[royal vortex]

i watch ppl run into the overheads i dodge

[daring blaze]

wym?

[royal vortex]

they fkin asked for it

[native cargo]

It's being rez into an overhead

[daring blaze]

I did it

it's right there

[olive raven]

If I were to try improving the build I’d have to sacrifice stuns is all

[dark zealot]

ok and maybe we want our skulls crushed?

[open echo]

this is new right?

[sharp zodiac]

Now that I'm home I'm going to change just a few things in Darktide then Play ROR2

And I won't get sucked into playing a few runs of Darktide

[olive raven]

Personally I think left tree isn’t great compared to the right, at least at the top

Down further I think left has some very nice nodes

[native cargo]

Risk of rain 2? What you playing as

[olive raven]

But ig 7.5% toughness on heavy kill works nicely

[frank night]

see you in 2 hours when your willpower cracks

[native cargo]

I'm sorry for the feeling of possibly dying makes me

[sharp zodiac]

I'm just starting but I plan to get into artificer or captain

Once I unlock them ofc

[olive raven]

@royal vortex is the 7.5% toughness from heavy kill additive with the base 5% on kill?

[royal vortex]

yeah

[native cargo]

Artificer is a boo

[olive raven]

Hm then yea that’s not bad there

[native cargo]

[royal vortex]

one hsword heavy can get u 50%+ in a horde

[sharp zodiac]

Wh

I got rat'd

[native cargo]

I'm eating your moon cheese

[royal vortex]

bfte is good with either of the 2 main variants of marty (3 wounds curios vs 3hp)

[sharp zodiac]

You fuck

[north sedge]

yea vicious offering is solid if you have a weapon that heavies alot

[royal vortex]

a little less so for momentum just because its awkward to fit bfte in if you want second wind

[olive raven]

Crucis gang ig

[native cargo]

Soon I build a home and sleep

[opaque island]

why would you go full health curio marty? you get way more bang with all wounds.

at that point you might as well use another keystone

[royal vortex]

for more hp survivability. tanks bursters/overheads/snipers super easily

[olive raven]

I don’t think many would

Tbh I could see

[royal vortex]

3 marty stacks at 1/4th hp isn't bad damage at all

[olive raven]

2x wound 1x Tough/HP as a viable martyr build

[blissful sinew]

is second wind + good balance + slide spam enough for tanking big rooms of shooters?

[royal vortex]

need TWBS for that but yeah

[opaque island]

TWBS is my crutch, i cant play zealot without it

[daring blaze]

It's everyone's crutch

[sharp zodiac]

Evil creature

[blissful sinew]

yeah twbs is a given for me lol

[sharp zodiac]

Would I reaaallly need duelist with a momentum thammer build

[olive raven]

TWBS is just goated

[daring blaze]

I used to run Holy Rev instead of TWBS when it was either/or

then they nerfed rev

[sharp zodiac]

French rat

[royal vortex]

duellist is always good

[sharp zodiac]

Thanks frog

Got it

Only thing I changed really was taking off desperation and put holy rev on with UD

[royal vortex]

desperation isn't that necessary

[north sedge]

you monster! that's fine, just personal preference there

[royal vortex]

i only really think it's HUGE with push attack weapons

like dc7 or crusher

where ur always vibin at low stam anyways

[dark zealot]

dont see the laspistols discussed much

[north sedge]

they shoot good

not much to discuss

extremely simple weapon

[dark zealot]

what blessings though?

[signal prism]

You grab dum dum and whatever

[sharp zodiac]

I do want to try the throwing knives

[native cargo]

So

You throw them

[sharp zodiac]

Well

Yeah

[native cargo]

Ideally you throw them at the enemy

[olive raven]

Throwing knives goated

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/06qk6s

[olive raven]

Oh not at the Ogryn?

[opaque island]

I just suck with throwing knives 😔 you gotta get those headshots

[daring blaze]

what's the stagger breakpoint for ragers

[shy badge]

Well I hate to break it to you but this is something any flamer can do with or without blaze away... with similar TTK

[olive raven]

Idk a hammer usually can stagger

[native cargo]

You'll never get it back

[signal prism]

Lol did you bind cryonic rod to your blitz button?

[native cargo]

It's stuck to their backs

Forever

sad knife noise

[royal vortex]

i needed a catchphrase

[copper hawk]

Vacuum capsule

[dark zealot]

i foget i have the knives

then i remember and panick throw them all

[daring blaze]

I wanna try building it to stagger on lights

[royal vortex]

i make sure to throw knives at abhumans during any downtime

[north sedge]

🤔

[dark zealot]

use the other bonk stick for that

[blissful sinew]

forget the commemorative head screw cosmetic, we want commemorative zealot knives

[north sedge]

hammer can only stagger ragers out combo with punishment, otherwise you have to hit them when they're not attacking to stagger lock em

[ripe quest]

Generally Dum Dum/Infernus for a safe bet since the fire damage will keep DD up. Both variants crit enough by default to proc Infernus. People really like DD/Raking Fire too, but that's a playstyle difference.

[olive raven]

Idk if that’s possible

I think you’d have to take like

A god rolled hammer

[royal vortex]

my favorite laspistol build (for the new one) is dumdum/ghost unarmored/maniac

i HATE dreg gunners

[daring blaze]

thankfully I have one of those

[copper hawk]

I've got a build I use in Auric

If you'd like it

[sharp zodiac]

Gives me an excuse to have a ranged way to deal with enemies while having a weapon more suited for close combat ranged wise

Hmm

Can't think of which keystone, so I'll have to use my brain

[dark zealot]

Melks shop

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/scott-pilgrim-wallace-wells-wallace-wallace-scott-pilgrim-adrian-gif-2970544437268353533

[dark zealot]

sure why noy

[shy badge]

Has anyone tried a hit & run/dumdum MkX heavy laspistol with anoint in blood build on zealot? It seems like it'd be really good

since hipfire is the name of the game with laspistols anyway

[sharp zodiac]

What blessings am I looking for flamer wise

Perks seem obvious

[olive raven]

Also you lose the impact from thrust so idk if you’ll even be able to hit it

If it’s a Crucis I personally don’t see the reason for lights stagger outside a funny “it’s possible”

[delicate needle]

quickflame for reload speed is very useful

[shy badge]

My personal opinion is Quickflame and Fan the flames, some will say Blaze away but I personally dont see much utility. Blaze away and quickflame is a good combo too

[ripe quest]

Punishment or Grievous Wounds will both hit the BP for light staggers on weakspot hits.

[olive raven]

As a heavy will stagger 2-3 ragers from memory

[shy badge]

Quickflame IV brings your reload down to like 2.5s and is faster than most rifles

and with the purgation u p t i m e is a good quality

[daring blaze]

Thanks.

[fading vale]

blaze is the only blessing that does anything, the others are whatever, fan doesn't do anything, quickflame is meh cause why are you going to 0 ammo all the time, overpressure is bugged

for perks elites/flak/unyielding

[sharp zodiac]

Hold on Imma show the flamer

[fading vale]

blaze is really only for whole room clearing, crushers, and big elite packs though, but it slightly helps in other scenarios

[sharp zodiac]

I see

[shy badge]

It barely helps in those scenarios

[fading vale]

yeah 50% burn damage is terrible

[dark zealot]

the best crit axe

[fading vale]

40 sorry

[ember yew]

at first i read that as "Embarassment"
I blame Lame knife

[shy badge]

8% power every 10% of your magazine... you only get meaningful damage increases when you're already half through your magazine

[fading vale]

nothing else buffs the damage

[next chasm]

lazorr

[fading vale]

it's 10% of magazine

[next chasm]

What build do you run on crucis and what does your hammer look like

[sharp zodiac]

Happens alot

Then there's thrust's name which caused my Canadian friend to laugh like a 13 year old

[fading vale]

with backstab CDR instead of swift

[shy badge]

I wasn't expecting to see the french localization, neat to see the different weapon names

What do they call the autoguns? Fusil Automatique de l’infanterie?

[sharp zodiac]

Let me check

[next chasm]

How come you don't take the 10% light attack speed?

[sharp zodiac]

Close but it's fusil d'assaut d'infanterie for the IAGs

[fading vale]

cause I got no more points and want duellist and prefer momentum dodge

[shy badge]

Huh thats an interesting change

[fading vale]

If I took stuns I could get attack speed

but I want fire nades

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah, most other games I play has it fusil automatique

[shy badge]

Odd they chose to change it from Automatic infantry gun/rifle to automatic infantry assault rifle/gun

[fading vale]

I heard that localization is one of the reasons they don't update their tooltips

[daring blaze]

I feel like I'm actually worse at this game than vermintide

when it comes to melee

[sharp zodiac]

Ik nothing of the reason so I can't prove nor disprove but I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case

[daring blaze]

the melee combat just feels worse

now that I've got more time in vermintide I see a big difference

[sharp zodiac]

These names always catch people's attention whenever I post a sc of something

[daring blaze]

Most of the elites feel unfun to fight in melee

[sharp zodiac]

Mainly because of how it's structured

[daring blaze]

They buffed elite HP to make up for the fact you can shred them with ranged weapons

Which made fighting them in melee so much worse

[ripe quest]

It's a 40% increase to the DoT damage. It saves on ult econ and means less ammo is used on patrols. I sincerely recommend testing it, it's very nice for ingame fluidity. The difference is notable on most elites.

[fading vale]

and also made a bunch of melee weapons destroy them

[daring blaze]

Ragers feel worse to fight compared to berserkers

or plague monks

they never fucking stop attacking

You practically have to use ranged

[fading vale]

ragers are poorly designed

[ripe quest]

Berserkers walked so DClaw could run.

[daring blaze]

I wish I never played vermintide

[shy badge]

I see where embarrassement would be quite odd to someone who has no knowledge of french, since they wouldn't realize embarassment's rootword is embarrasser

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[fading vale]

basically rager stagger resist is too high, their range is too far, their attacks are undodgeable, and they attack too fast (idk if they still have double attack bug)

[ripe quest]

Lame de combat

[shy badge]

and the amount of stun they can impart upon you is also crippling

[daring blaze]

is that the knife or the sword

I'm going to guess knife

[ripe quest]

It's on a Knife yeah.

[fading vale]

I can't help but want to post that at every opportunity

it makes me laugh every time

[mossy scarab]

Is that your cat? Looks like Steve

[fading vale]

yeah it's Steve

[mossy scarab]

Brilliant.

[daring blaze]

Have you seen how fast plague monks attack

The speed isn't a problem

[fading vale]

well it's more the speed in combination with other things

but no, I tried VT2 and hated it relative to DT

[daring blaze]

I would be fine if they acted like plague monks

where they'd do one big flurry and then go on a cooldown basically acting like a normal enemy for like 5 seconds

[fading vale]

but ragers are literally undodgeable entirely which I think is dumb, you have to out range them which is 3.75 meters

[daring blaze]

that is also a problem

[sharp zodiac]

Alright ig I can run just one game

Got myself a chaxe for nice damage and shit

Flamer to cover the (new) chaxe's average horde clear

And knives for range threats

[royal vortex]

@frank night i believe u predicted this

[sharp zodiac]

It's just one

Then it's risk of rain 2

[fading vale]

but also you have weapons like hsword that can one shot up to 4 ragers at a time so

the balance is just kinda all over

[daring blaze]

this is all thanks to the blessings

[fading vale]

yes, new BM is stupid

[daring blaze]

as opposed to old?

[fading vale]

old BM was also stupid

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/ymdks9

[fading vale]

but new one allows you to one shot 4 things

[royal vortex]

me when brutal momentum NERF

RUINED the blessing

[daring blaze]

That is also one part of Darktide I really dislike

the haphazard balance

made worse by patch 13

[fading vale]

meanwhile me training in the hyperbolic time chamber and doing gymnastics attempting to one shot a single crusher on hammer

[royal vortex]

lmfao

big lad walks up to crusher patrol, swings twice, killfeed is full and the screen is empty

NEED MORE BUFFS SAH

OGRYN TOO WEAK

[prisma sigil]

when

[frank night]

🙂

[fading vale]

someone said this earlier lol

[royal vortex]

idk there was a lot of sentiment right before p13 dropped and right after that bm got nerfed

[daring blaze]

WHAT THE FUCK

I JUST NOTICED HE KILLED ALL 3

[royal vortex]

like some of the more intelligent regulars were getting a lil mald-y about it

[daring blaze]

I thought he only killed one

[fading vale]

no he killed 3

[royal vortex]

u can kill up to 4

the most crushers ive seen anyone get in a live game is 3

[daring blaze]

my fucking god

[royal vortex]

i've killed 4 maulers in a swing though

[daring blaze]

these are supposed to be equivalent to chaos warriors

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/0zs6xs

at the end in this clip i get 4 maulers iirc

[daring blaze]

Darktide strike teams eat carapace for breakfast

[frank night]

darktide character strength is a lil bit

[fading vale]

4 MAULERS 1 SWING

[royal vortex]

i dont know why i said this

but i sound so happy

[frank night]

like there is no enemy in the game that isnt a boss that I dont assume will be dead inside a second of making contact with the strike team

[long oasis]

so what's the consensus for what to run on chaxe?

[signal prism]

I mean, it was pretty cool

[sharp zodiac]

Blows up zinc with mind

[daring blaze]

I have bad memory

was it like this before patch 13 as well

[royal vortex]

this is why i have graduated to crusher/columnus brauto

[daring blaze]

Or was it a little more balanced

[frank night]

before pinning fire existed

and autopistol

so it was just veterantopia

[royal vortex]

because neither of those weapons are The Thing To Use As Of Current Patch

[sharp zodiac]

I'm sorry did you just kill 3 in fucking one

[frank night]

ah you have become a hipster

i c i c

[royal vortex]

while not being some dogshit RSI inducing thing

like taxe

crusher is also one of the only wpns i feel like i can use incorrectly and be punished for

[royal vortex]

allow me to show you the platonic ideal for a shovel swing into a crusher pack

https://streamable.com/ehl74z

this is what this dude was thinkin of

[dark zealot]

Big E wasnt proud of me that time

[royal vortex]

when he came up with the world of forms

[sharp zodiac]

Why can you even

[dark zealot]

cant even get a blessing from that

[royal vortex]

the even more fucked up part is right

this is raw

no stacking buffs or anything

u just hold m1 until it releases automatically with the right build

[sharp zodiac]

Ig this is what you call an ogryn moment

Jesus

[royal vortex]

i dont have to bother with in-game setup i just find the dude i wanna kill

and i fucking SWING

[daring blaze]

tfw an ogryn wielding a folded shovel has more power than a thunder hammer

[void iron]

this all I can think of every time I see this mask

[frank night]

ur gonna get this chat raided by a larper again

[daring blaze]

who

[frank night]

idk

there will be one

[indigo quartz]

tfw veteran shovels can cleanly kill a crusher

😩

[fading vale]

hammer can't even one shot crushers anymore without F or 2 billion buffs

[sharp zodiac]

Wow I got knife players who actually understand the knives optimal blessings

[daring blaze]

This game is so over

I hope they get the vermintide balance team on this

just kidding they'll only make it worse

[signal prism]

Weapon design is all goofy, like why is the revolver so good I hate it

[daring blaze]

They gave the veterans grenade gen to a career in vermintide in the latest ""balance"" pass

[fading vale]

I love your name btw

[royal vortex]

relative balance has actually gotten better since they started trying to do it again

p13-14 made strides in making things relatively equal

[signal prism]

You can thank Stan for it

[royal vortex]

which isn't to say player power rn is in a good spot cuz it aint

[timid bough]

what the actual fuck man

[fading vale]

Yeah I remember lol

[blissful sinew]

outcast engineer? more like, solos the fucking game guy

[royal vortex]

i legitimately stopped playing ogryn because the class is so braindead boring

[timid bough]

I never played ogryn cuz if I wanted to fall asleep at my keyboard I wouldn't add the extra steps

[royal vortex]

pre-13 at least u werent LITERALLY ignoring hits in melee

[coarse birch]

my ogryn is literally over 100 levels under everyone else

[fading vale]

tanking snipers with just toughness

[coarse birch]

cause hes so boring and he has like

[timid bough]

I'm a revolver hater, and autogun enjoyer

[coarse birch]

maybe 2 playstyles

[royal vortex]

ive put 150 more levels in ogryn than my next class

its the first one ive brought to over 500

[daring blaze]

tanking poxbursters, with just toughness

[royal vortex]

i really like the vibes

[coarse birch]

hes neat

[timid bough]

you can do this too with zealot

[royal vortex]

but it's like, you can't play it and have mechanical complexity rn

[coarse birch]

but between less weapons and almost no varying playstyles as well as just

not caring

[royal vortex]

i can't actually improve at the game or feel like im learning stuff

[coarse birch]

about anything

[timid bough]

with crit toughness DR you can take 0 damage from a poxburster

[coarse birch]

its kinda bleh

[royal vortex]

so like

i dont mind the less weapons

[daring blaze]

what?

[royal vortex]

if they made all the different vars more unique

[daring blaze]

no way...

[timid bough]

Yes way

[coarse birch]

yeah

[fading vale]

how much toughness damage do bursters do

[royal vortex]

the stubbers need a total relative rebalancing and they need to rework the identity of each; crab as per usual has some really good ideas

[daring blaze]

It doesn't even matter

[fading vale]

I know snipers are 1250 so no way zealot is tanking that

[royal vortex]

ogryn overall needs to interact with finesse. crits more than headshots, because crits are dumb as fuck and perfect for ogryn

[coarse birch]

yeah its like i could use fast stubber or slow stubber or shit stubber

but i use them mostly the same still

in my exp

[royal vortex]

RIGHT? and there's nothing unique about em

[timid bough]

IDK I know I've gotten blown up by several in real games and taken 0 damage with all my toughness DR buffs active

[royal vortex]

gorg should be the armor shredder

[daring blaze]

if you have a yellow toughness boost of even 1 you can eat a sniper shot or poxburster

[quaint verge]

Learn the right distance for a barrel explosion for maximum flying distance as a means of transportation?

[royal vortex]

achlys should be the fleshy guy DESTROYER and the closest thing a machine gun can get to a flamer

krourk should be the DAKKA gun

[fading vale]

ogryn can do it raw with no buffs

[timid bough]

ogryn has 100 toughness raw though

unless im missing something

[royal vortex]

don't bursters have a flat hp damage minimum they do

[timid bough]

<I don't play ogryn

[royal vortex]

like overheads

[coarse birch]

i dont even mind mk variations just make them actual variations

[royal vortex]

idt u can tank bursters straight to toughness under any circumstances

[fading vale]

and then you take toughness curios, and you get free 66% toughness DR, and then feel no pain

[coarse birch]

im p sure overfilling on toughness lets you tank

[timid bough]

I have done, in real games

[fading vale]

and wooo can't take damage

[timid bough]

das all I know

[royal vortex]

no there's a bug i think

[ripe heron]

Poxbursters always do max toughness.

[signal prism]

Vet can tank sniper and poxbuster with shout and the toughness dr trait as well

[daring blaze]

If you have yellow toughness they don't bleed into your health pool

[royal vortex]

because ppl have reported tanking bursters with 0 damage, the common factor seems to be chastising

well yeah overshield is cracked

[coarse birch]

yeah i think its just an overshield thing

[timid bough]

I don't use chastise the wicker, and I don't take 0 damage, I take toughness damage

[daring blaze]

worst addition 2023

[timid bough]

not with yellow toughness

[royal vortex]

but i know @south folio had it happen and i dont think we even had a shout vet

[coarse birch]

idk about raw toughness

[timid bough]

just dodge DR crit DR, DR from talents etc

[royal vortex]

redverse too i think redverse has it clipped

[timid bough]

you're closing in on 85% toughness DR

[fading vale]

is the hp/corruption also constant

[south folio]

yeah i took no damage during the dash

[ripe heron]

You take less damage further from the explosion.

[fading vale]

I see

[timid bough]

dodge DR = 25% dr after a successful dodge

[ripe quest]

You can stack DR to tank it.

[timid bough]

not while dodging

[royal vortex]

the dr isn't additive iirc

all the dif sources should be multiplicative

[timid bough]

you can also tank sniper shots with full DR

[fading vale]

yeah all the DR is multiplicative except for the minor nodes

[royal vortex]

yeah

[timid bough]

It's still gonna be over 60%

[ripe heron]

Martyrdom+small nodes is 50%

[timid bough]

just look at right side tree

[royal vortex]

are the travel nodes additive with marty?

i wouldn't assume so

[daring blaze]

how about Benediction?

[ripe heron]

Martyrdom is additive.

[royal vortex]

huh. wouldn't've thought

[fading vale]

tbh nobody takes all the DR stuff unless you are going for immortal marty cause generally there is no need to do it

[royal vortex]

yeah

[fading vale]

but ogryn gets it for free

[royal vortex]

i mean its almost impossible not to grab it on ogryn

[timid bough]

crit build with DR, don't sleep on it

and stealth / momentum

[royal vortex]

the 3 tdr nodes are all put in very easy to reach spots

[coarse birch]

Im still getting used to remembering TDR does something now that flames don't take away all toughness

[fading vale]

I will always sleep on crit until they nerf crit CDR

[royal vortex]

• there's 15% dr while winding up a heavy attack and 15% dr while bracing a gun

just insanity

[ember yew]

Fire instagib was hilarious

[timid bough]

momentum unironically better with stealth

[ember yew]

because of that im not sure if there are playtesters at all

[timid bough]

played crit for a long time

[fading vale]

I'm just a chastise hammer stan

[royal vortex]

i view crit build as a crutch in the same way SoC is

it would be cool if they kneecapped the fuck outta the cdr so i could play it without abusing something ridiculously strong

[fading vale]

no no, there were at least 4 or 5 ogryn exclusive playtesters and one that only ran ripper gunlugger

[ember yew]

but that's only on paper

nobody saw them alive right

[royal vortex]

oh no ogryn was playtested. extensively

[ember yew]

mysterious beasts

[royal vortex]

the dudes who wrote the ogrynomicon are playtesters

[fading vale]

you know the ogryn guide

playtesters yeah

[royal vortex]

somehow a real, live human being looked at what they did to ogryn

and thought

"this is fair, yeah."

not just one, actually, multiple

numerous

[south folio]

hell yeah

[royal vortex]

legitimately do you know what else could tank snipers straight to toughness

pre-patch 13 vet

and so many people hated vet because of how braindead overpowered it was

and how its strongest builds required no thought

and then they gave that to ogryn

[ember yew]

i remember there was a meme that 4-vet = the strongest party?

[royal vortex]

[olive raven]

I mean an Ogryn having a lot of health

[south folio]

it unironically was

[olive raven]

Yea makes sense

But

The fact they keep it at max 24/7

Is fucking nuts

[royal vortex]

so the problem isn't ogryn conceptually being more tanky than other classes

[olive raven]

Even if they run absolute shit curios

[royal vortex]

it's the implementation violating one of the main things patch 13 was doing

[royal vortex]

which is removing in-built passives and transferring it all to a point system so you have more customizability and have choices to make

[ember yew]

17

[olive raven]

ah yes, dump stat.

[feral thorn]

hell yeah

[ember yew]

[royal vortex]

because of the baseline dr ogryn gets

[olive raven]

Ogryn is nuts cuz of that fr

[royal vortex]

and then there's just like, no thought to any ogryn gameplay. you get all this damage output and survivability and it doesn't require any thought

[dark zealot]

not low enough

[olive raven]

I’m honestly gonna go ahead and level my Ogryn when I get back to the states

[royal vortex]

and for some reason it gets 10% tdr per node instead of 5%

[olive raven]

And see how fast it happens

[ember yew]

ME.BIG.GUY.HIT.HARD.SMOL.HERETIC.DIE

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

i love the vibes of ogryn. big dumb guy does big dumb stuff is cool

but good lord they overdid it

[olive raven]

They sorta forgot

Ogryns are dumb

[fading vale]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxOVPdVmqnpgGyOcFyd0rrUsU8DX--ybW2?si=iUxo_GNU_JQw7Onj

[feral thorn]

i wouldn't say ogryn is thoughtless, as there's a lot you can do to improve on your gameplay same as any other class, but he definitely has more room for error

[olive raven]

He is.

[royal vortex]

so when i say ogryn is thoughtless

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[royal vortex]

i mean like

besides the "huge margin of error if you make run-ending mistakes on any other class" thing

[royal vortex]

is that there's almost nothing you can opt into that requires more effort

[fading vale]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx7pSx9okTb2dxmiLc4m_1kU5J_yTspDs7?si=9B6V9cdD_eAqIUOa

[fading vale]

workable

[ember yew]

i like zealot tree as a counter example of ogryn, there's so many fun options and i change build like 3-5 times per session

[olive raven]

^

[native cargo]

The largest amount of effort I ever put into ogryn is trying to make the rumbler shot bounce the way I want it to off enemies

[royal vortex]

there's nothing like talents that only proc on successful dodge, or talents that change how you play the game in any meaningful way. the entire tree is "HIT HARDER, TAKE MORE HITS, TAKE LESS DAMAGE FROM HIT, SHOOT HARDER, SHOOT MORE"

[native cargo]

And that's just for a meme

[royal vortex]

and while that's mostly true for other trees

zealot gets talents like dance of death, you dodge a guy and your spread/recoil is significantly reduced

and that adds an entirely different element to your combat loop with a gun like the brauto

[dark zealot]

the only meaningful gun node

[olive raven]

Anoint crying in the corner

[royal vortex]

none of the weapons are super complex either. mk4 has some basic combos for single target vs horde but thats about it

[olive raven]

+25% damage up to like 10 meters

[dark zealot]

i'd argue vets can do melee better than zealots can do guns

[royal vortex]

rumbler is unironically one of the highest effort ogryn guns to use effectively

[native cargo]

It is. Respect to anyone that can use it correctly

[royal vortex]

requires more gamesense than any other ogryn ranged rn

and actually aiming the thing is fairly tricky in a lot of circumstances

[ember yew]

grenade launcher?

[royal vortex]

yeah

[ember yew]

that thing is really strong when used at right situations

🍖

can i have one

[royal vortex]

oh dude if u want a good time

bring a survivalist vet and run gunlugger ogryn

[ember yew]

i hope they will give us plasma pistol

[royal vortex]

take the rending ult upgrade and dominate (15% rending on elite kill for 10s)

[ember yew]

if vet got big plasma gun, give us a pistol

[royal vortex]

the rending applies to the falloff on the explosion damage

it will NUKE elite patrols

[hollow hazel]

Hello! What blessings are good for heavy sword IX now? Deathblow and a dmg increasing one? Or smth else?

[ember yew]

in terms of lore friendly weapons, Meltagun too

[native cargo]

The best I ever did with the rumbler was intentionally killing a sniper with a head shot but accidentally killing two bombers, and disrupting scab mob firing line. I'll never replicate that again

[royal vortex]

deathblow + headtaker, rampage is ok in place of headtaker but headtaker is more consistent and caps out slightly higher

[native cargo]

The bounce on the grenade can be crazy good if you do it right but that's requires more brain power than i have

[royal vortex]

aim at the balls if u want it to explode on the guy the pill hits

generally

[native cargo]

Does the wee wee like flip the grenade upwards or smth

[royal vortex]

it bounces towards the floor

[native cargo]

Cus that's some interesting mechanics and shiz

[royal vortex]

if you shoot the head it'll go up in the air most of the time

[olive raven]

Deathblow headtaker

[royal vortex]

and has more chance of bouncing and fucking off somewhere else

[hollow hazel]

So with the weapon to the right i change Wrath to Deathblow and maby stamina to maniac or flak?

[royal vortex]

yup

[olive raven]

Yes

Switch it to

Maniac

Trust

Hits ragers harder

[hollow hazel]

Yeah, they are mor important

[olive raven]

And gets you damage to most specialists

[fading vale]

it scales down linearly out to 30m

[hollow hazel]

What about the devils claw 4, savage sweep and rampage or shred with savage sweep? Or am i off beat?

[next trench]

scoreboard mod is weird sometimes

how am i not highest total

[olive raven]

Mb

[olive raven]

Those “scores” don’t matter

[ember yew]

well, less damage taken/less stations used, but i only use that to check overall damage

i would remove other stuff later if possible

[next trench]

i think thats toughness damage

because i was full hp the whole time

only actually needed med station once

[ember yew]

but why it said you used it 5 times

just ignore it then

[next trench]

its leftover

like jump to next area

[fading vale]

IIRC over toughness counts for HP damage at least on an older scoreboard

[next trench]

better to heal that 20 hp than just leave it there an move on

never know when you gonna survive 2 hp

[violet hornet]

I'm fairly sure the number of health stations used on the scoreboard ticks up when you start using one rather than finish, so starting and stopping before actually healing counts as a heal on the scoreboard

[hollow hazel]

Is this pattern bad?
I am considering to take deathblow 4 from this weapon to put it on a IX instead. But the blessings are so good, same with the base stats

[next trench]

thats not bad

deathblow on that sword is good i think

[hollow hazel]

But this one has wierd animations

[sharp zodiac]

Our vet has his tag marked onto the fire button

[hollow hazel]

Maby i should just keep it and wait for it to become meta in june XD

[ember yew]

oh darn

havent seen those for like 2 weeks+

its hella annoying

[sharp zodiac]

So everytime he saw a single thing it's just tag tag tag tag

Other than that I'm enjoying the knives

With more practice I'll get the hang of these things

[sharp zodiac]

Flamer is nice but the chaxe I'll probably change

[ember yew]

if you played Hanzo in Overwatch

should be easy

[radiant coyote]

had to install just for those pesky ping spammer

couldnt hear specials

[sharp zodiac]

True, I did have a thing with projectiles in that game

[void iron]

that's a thing that happens?

[void iron]

you mean dual bleed? mwahahaaha

[sharp zodiac]

First game on was a lot better than I imagined with the knives, I really just need to aim higher and stop hesitating on whether or not it'll hit just because the knives have a nice hitbox on enemies

[next trench]

:)

[olive raven]

The 6 is the best heavy sword

It is quite literally the meta

[hollow hazel]

Hu, i heard so much bad about it XD

[olive raven]

Best elite TTK, 2nd best horde clear compared to the IX by only two swings

[hollow hazel]

Thank god i did not brick it then

[olive raven]

From where 💀

Who told you this misinformation

[hollow hazel]

Yt guy

[olive raven]

Is it

Clayesthics

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah that's basically what it sounded like

[hollow hazel]

Boom headshot!

[olive raven]

Oh fuckin cheist

Yea Clay is simply wrong

[hollow hazel]

He is a bit contriversal

[olive raven]

The horizontals are slightly diagonal is all

[hollow hazel]

aight aight

[olive raven]

His entire tier list isn’t based on anything objective is the issue

He put one of the best weapons below pre buff chain axe

[hollow hazel]

I know :/ His lists are from "how it feels" or sometimes one wepon gets jeeted upp becasue "meta" even tho it fells bad to use

[misty raven]

I got a decent HS6 from a mission and liked it. Bought the other marks and went "wait...the 6 is goated fuck these other ones"

[olive raven]

Put headtaker on that sword and do crit to maniac

And you gave a good sword

[frank night]

it might have been a while but you will occasionally get 'i hate zealots' posting to try and get a reaction

[ornate bone]

Does the hs6 have horizontal heavies?

[void iron]

oh lmaoooooo

[olive raven]

Like deathblow allows for the first target to hit like

2 or 4 times

Can’t remember

[hollow hazel]

Aight

[olive raven]

So it deals full damage to 4 targets

[ornate bone]

hs9 is goated because it haa everything in the moveset

[olive raven]

I think

[hollow hazel]

4 i think

[olive raven]

9 is good too

[olive raven]

Yea it is

[hollow hazel]

horde is L spam and single target is H spam?

[sharp zodiac]

Fuck I'm playing more just to max out this old evisc because it's a good role but I'll have to entertain myself

[hollow hazel]

Or is ther anything else to it?

[sharp zodiac]

I'll listen to the ultrakill ost, that should help

[next trench]

people with 2 braincells just tag something that is about to die or closer to the team

[sharp zodiac]

I tag but not to the point of this

Even if it won't last long because sometimes your teammates miss a overhead heavy on a trapper and eat a net

[frank night]

[sharp zodiac]

Shut up

Do not say it

[frank night]

🙂

[sharp zodiac]

If you say it I'll blow up your feet

Any other message your feet are gonen

[frank night]

but i need those

[sharp zodiac]

That's it

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ghost-barrel-explode-fly-gif-10528166394804192796

[ornate bone]

That tagging mauled my eardrums

[hollow hazel]

I will keep rampage for now as I only have Head taker 2 (even thogh it is just 1% per stack)

You sure about keeping infested dmg instead of crit chance?

[copper hawk]

stolen from @lean lark

love this build he made

he has a rlly good hs build as well

[lean lark]

WHJAT

[copper hawk]

if u need buildz he haz good ones

hai

[lean lark]

im going to copyright strike you

[copper hawk]

what if i can't pay it

can i pay it another way

https://tenor.com/view/scott-pilgrim-wallace-wells-wallace-wallace-scott-pilgrim-adrian-gif-2970544437268353533

[lean lark]

public guillotine

[ornate bone]

Cica stole Mickey Mouse

[copper hawk]

N000O0OOOO0O0OOO0O0OOOH

[ornate bone]

Forehead

Actually

Oh it won't let me say it

1943

[copper hawk]

1998

[next trench]

MY FELLOW PILGRIMS, I HAVE REACHED LEVEL 100

[ornate bone]

Me when the intro says "the year is 1945" and I know I'll vibe to the Raven Shield theme after I skip it

[ember yew]

next goal : reach level 1000

[next trench]

yall think hadron gonna brick this?

[ember yew]

[hearty lily]

Is the left Bolter peak? Is there THAT much of a difference between 70%-80% stability?

[next trench]

thats a nice fokin hammer

[dark zealot]

yep

[ornate bone]

Ahhhhh my reload speef

D

[olive raven]

Yes

Crit chance is eh

Infested will hopefully get a break point on groaners

[next trench]

i have a low stability bolter and maxed on everything else

[ornate bone]

Groaners are unarmored

[next trench]

its impossible to aim if you are supressed

[dark zealot]

interesting

[olive raven]

And infested

[hearty lily]

i was gonna say....Bolter feels like it'll be unreliable to shoot more than 2 shots with ADS. Even worse if you're suppressed by enemy fire

[olive raven]

I though

[hearty lily]

so i feel like the extra 10% isn't worth my sanity in rolling

[ornate bone]

Poxwalkers are infested

[olive raven]

Well one of the trash mobs is infested so hopefully it hits breakpoint

[next trench]

bolter is the oh shit weapon, bring a strong crowd melee then pull the bolter out when you see ogryns pretty much

and just unload it

[hearty lily]

exactly! i use the mauler (crusher?) for my CC melee. I just spam charged melee, light attach, charged attack, light attk etc etc

kk. i feel better now ❤️

[surreal solstice]

Bolter is the most glorious magdump weapon

[hollow hazel]

It is the poxwalker

[next trench]

so like screw stability, have everything else maxed

and unload on big targets

bolters are great for buwalks

your stagger them easily for teamates

[hearty lily]

excellent. thank u

[next trench]

this my bolter on the zealot

[feral thorn]

E A T B O L T G U N

[hearty lily]

niceeee. i envy that reload speed

[north sedge]

should not be spamming light special on crusher

[copper hawk]

Yuck..

Boltgun..

Bleh !!

[heavy arch]

bolter bad

[hearty lily]

no? it has good cleave combined with the AoE from the special attack

[feral thorn]

bolter good
why?
loud

[north sedge]

it's a combo weapon

[next trench]

HADRON I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD DONT BRICK THIS PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[north sedge]

light heavy will kill faster, push attack light heavy on big shit, hit heads

[feral thorn]

praying to the emprah for you comrade

[north sedge]

it has cc there for when you need it, but used properly it does dmg

[next trench]

need plasteel first god dammit

[hearty lily]

interesting. i'll give it a try today

[north sedge]

really only use the special for when there's a giant pack of elites or something, maybe at the start of a fight

but also more like, hit it once then kill shit unless things are really bleak

[heavy arch]

crusher is secretly a big brain wep

[next trench]

btw the finesse on this doesnt matter at all, it still attacks really fast and good

uploading clip 1 sec

[lean lark]

I'm going to kill you

[heavy arch]

[next trench]

heres video proof

[heavy arch]

[indigo quartz]

finesse is weakspot and crit multiplier wtf you on

[next trench]

boss damage

[north sedge]

i fell asleep, but also that

[next trench]

was with this blade

[olive raven]

Okay yea so it’ll have marginally better horde clear lol

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-wallace-wells-scott-pilgrim-takes-off-hmm-pondering-gif-15178975430016283491

Erm

[indigo quartz]

yeah you did great but its not true to say its an irrelevant stat

[copper hawk]

Is some1 gonna tell them..

[indigo quartz]

being such a large multiplier

[next trench]

on this shank

it doenst matter

they bleed away anyways

[heavy arch]

is this bait

[next trench]

on others sure

[copper hawk]

[heavy arch]

oh you’re serious huh

[next trench]

this is the doink oneshot one

need to change perks tho

[indigo quartz]

finesse is a good stat regardless of blessings.

[next trench]

yeah ofc

but on this bleed shank its good without finesse

[olive raven]

Those perks and blessings are goated

Nice knife

[flat marsh]

How is this a bleed knife without any bleed blessings

[olive raven]

Scourge.

[flat marsh]

But that's any knife

Or even a thunder hammer

[next trench]

thats not the one im talking about

[lean lark]

it's good without finesse on bleed /=/ finesse is a passable stat to have low

[next trench]

scroll up a little

[copper hawk]

[next trench]

its what i said

its good ON THIS SHANK

[flat marsh]

Yeah kinda icky

[lean lark]

no it isn't

low finesse is never good

[next trench]

on the bonk oneshot one its good to have high finesse

[flat marsh]

Less finesse is less attack speed so you get less bleed

[next trench]

refer to video above

[indigo quartz]

less finesse is never good

that is an objective statement supported by math

it can be viable/sufficient, whatever

but its not better than having more of it

[flat marsh]

Do I get to make a video on malice showing that my 0 stat roll is a good roll?

[next trench]

why yall pretending and hammering that i said that finesse is bad

💀

i said THAT ON THIS BLADE ITS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL

[copper hawk]

[gray ice]

Reading hard

[next trench]

it still works

[lean lark]

I love reverse bait

[next trench]

ah yes

its bait now

surely

[lean lark]

yeah what I was saying was bait

[next trench]

surely

[lean lark]

that's why it's reverse

[frank night]

[next trench]

btw what i typed first was bait

ha!

bruh

[lean lark]

sorry bro I'm actually dead serious 💀

Can't even rn fr 💀

[next trench]

fr fr ong

[gray ice]

The last minute "I'm just joking" to deflect any blame or suspicious statements

The classic blunder

[heavy arch]

no cap fr

[copper hawk]

Merely a jest

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/run-that-gif-24757945

[lean lark]

I'd rather blunder than gaslight or whatever it is

[ripe quest]

I'd rather blunder then gaslight

[heavy arch]

chaos spawn appears

knife zealot runs to other side of map to hide from it

what the fuck you ever see that type of thing

[frank night]

girlboss gaslight

[shy river]

Gaslight gatekeep girlboss time

[gray ice]

What is gaslighting stop making up works Exhil

[lean lark]

oh don't talk about knife zealots

[ripe quest]

works

[heavy arch]

knife zealots smoke crack dont @ me

[next trench]

[heavy arch]

shit he @ me

[next trench]

birmingham zealots

[lean lark]

I had a game where we lost because I got netted because of him, then I died and he didn't pick me up (stealth zealot) and then instead of rescuing someone they tried rushing to the end area and forgot that elites spawn in the elevator

And we fucking lost

after a never ending 40 minutes of scab melee only

only to lose because of the knife zealot

maybe it's just European knife zealots

[north sedge]

no

knife zealots are their own country

[lean lark]

let me keep a sliver of optimism dough please

[coarse birch]

does anyone who uses the customization mod lose FPS for using it? i feel like i got less FPS when used it but it could have just been the patch or something

[next trench]

i use it, and no i didnt lose any fps

[coarse birch]

word might have just been the patch then

[lean lark]

the local servers near you might be a bit slower than usual

[coarse birch]

i havent tried it in a few months

[lean lark]

ping affects fps in darktide for some reason

so that might be the reason

[coarse birch]

so ill try it again

word

i love darktide

[slate void]

What do yall think of my turtle sword

[lean lark]

I have usually 90-120 fps when I play on eu servers (60 ping) then when I play on na servers (150-230 ping) my fps drops to below 60

[lean lark]

wrath to headtaker and stamina to naniac

have fun

[next trench]

pretty good kin

[lean lark]

you must learn the scoop

[sharp zodiac]

That's enough of Darktide, knives are great but due to me not playing zel as much due to psyker and vet holding me down it'll take a while for me to get the feel

[slate void]

I actually do have Headtaker IV

[coarse birch]

knives are very fun

its really just the arc you have to get used to

[slate void]

What's the scoop

[coarse birch]

and if your like me remembering you dont have to quickswap to a gun anymore

when you run them

[lean lark]

the heavy attack it has

is like a scoop

I forgot if it's h2 or h1

[coarse birch]

yeah its H1 is like a golf swing

scoop

thing

[next trench]

btw colommus is the best automatic rifle dont @ me

[slate void]

Oh, an uppercut?

[coarse birch]

yeah

it goes diagonally up

[slate void]

What's hard to learn about it

[sharp zodiac]

Flamer heads I gotta get the feel of the most with the arc

[next trench]

please fatshark i want a double plasteel weekend

[sharp zodiac]

Been a while since I've touched something projectile wise so it's time to get the rust off projectile based Salons

eapp's

Weapons

[next trench]

no, 0 plasteel

i mean 1

do a prayer for me please kin

[slate void]

I feel you sibling

[next trench]

you literally have double my plasteel

wow

actually rich

[lean lark]

just Speedrun the special assignment bro trust me bro it pays off so much
On paper if you had a good enough team to Speedrun it in 10 minutes or lower that's 1.4k plasteel an hour

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/je-ne-suis-pas-radin-gif-12610730076118899182

[next trench]

doesnt sound fun

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/picsou-scrooge-duck-coins-gold-gif-6105586

[next trench]

rather keep my sanity and have fun

[slate void]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-confused-what-miksi-gif-23666335

[lean lark]

or alternatively have a really good team and do normal missions that last 25 minutes or less and get 1.7k plasteel an hour

while being even less mentally insane

[north sedge]

tbf this screenshot is old...i only have like 200k plasteel now