zealot-class

[mystic ether]

They're both losers to me. Idk warhammer stuff.

[north sedge]

another good option

[dusty hull]

Would you recommend then the blue or the original one?

[mystic ether]

I did like kruber never dropped uh...the hunting God in vt2.

Can't remember.

[dusty hull]

Taal

[quaint verge]

No matter how much you try to deflect, you will always be the feedbag horse

[mystic ether]

Yeah

[dusty hull]

Well now he's a Lady's man

[mystic ether]

Eh, kruber got some attractive qualities before the knight shit.

[dusty hull]

EH

[mystic ether]

If anything he's funny as hell for talking shit about grail knighthood

Mocks the creed and everything

[quaint verge]

@royal vortex

[mystic ether]

It's funny though when Kerillian teases him for not noticing that he's been scammed by an elf goddess

"Did she have pointy ears...?"

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[mystic ether]

Ye get a good look at them, kruber.

[olive raven]

Welcome to Zealot chat. Somehow we have some of the most intelligent regulars while also having some of the most degenerate or idiotic ones. Sometimes is a mixture of all three, it’s a Venn diagram.

[mystic ether]

Kruber: nope--conversation done

[royal vortex]

i am capable both of solo clutching for 7 mins and getting poxburstered in such a stupid way

i blame alcoholism

[lean lark]

you dont even drink

if you'd drink you'd perish on the spot

[royal vortex]

that has nothing to do with this

[lean lark]

ok

[mystic ether]

Literally happened yesterday. I finally got got by the stealth burster.

It was real.

[lean lark]

im blaming your autism

i dont know what you're talkinga bout

[frosty herald]

Get this man some car keys!!!

[hushed knoll]

Why do you keep renaming yourself

You are The Snow Guy

[peak flare]

is turtle 6 any good?

[lean lark]

yes

best hsword

[dusty hull]

This is my usual Evi. Should I try using the XV more or keep using this one?

[mystic ether]

Turtle?

[royal vortex]

i take the titles you give me

[peak flare]

i've seen people foaming at the mouth saying you got the 9 turned the wrong way up

[mystic ether]

Just try the other one just because you know?

If anything you got one blessing on it that's stupid for the new evis

[peak flare]

i have headtaker rampage

[north sedge]

15 does better at single target, slighty less horde clear

[olive raven]

6 is best, 9 has marginally better horde clear

[peak flare]

why best

[quaint verge]

@left iron @north sedge

[lean lark]

because of this

[olive raven]

Best elite TTK in exchange for slightly worse horde clear

[peak flare]

hm

[left iron]

[left iron]

I have been tagged

[lean lark]

i think ive had to mention that message 20 times

[olive raven]

Also Headtaker + Deathblow is best

[quaint verge]

was the wrong video

[peak flare]

so, the bis blessings are the same, right? i have headtaker rampage

oh

[quaint verge]

tis the one

[peak flare]

shid

[olive raven]

Hey it’s a good video

[lean lark]

deathblow over rampage

[peak flare]

this blows

[blazing fossil]

lul left everyone for dead at the end of the incubator mission, barely made it when all the scrubs wanted to dance in the elevator with me

[lean lark]

you can still use rampage

[olive raven]

Headtaker rampage is good but deathblow is better

[lean lark]

its just like

it's better horde clear

[olive raven]

Because it basically allows you to cleave + apply first target damage to way more

[left iron]

Ah yes

I clutched this

Iirc

Then i crashed and didnt have a crosshair

[lean lark]

hsword doesnt need any more dmg since it can oneshot every non-armored elite (except ragers, it deals 1.3k dmg to flak ragers with a normal weakspot hit)

[north sedge]

we made ice clutch what, 2 or 3 games in a row?

[left iron]

Twice in that game

[blazing fossil]

here is mine

[left iron]

You all died in the mid event

[quaint verge]

sounds about right

[peak flare]

mhm

[mystic ether]

I've been having a hard time dodging the plague ogryn charge. Did they change something about?

[blazing fossil]

just block

[mystic ether]

Do not remember it giving me that much trouble before

Eh, fine.

[lean lark]

they did not

you just block it

[mystic ether]

Hm.

[steady hearth]

and make sure you don't go off a ledge

because even when blocked it has quite a bit of push

[mystic ether]

Yeah back to a wall or solid something.

[quaint verge]

you slide backwards on block, but you fly if you dont block

so

just block

[mystic ether]

Was just scratching my head over it for a week since I just end up holding its aggro all the time and that charge has been annoying the shit out of me. Remember definitely being able to dodge it before in the past so it could be a player issue anyway.

I'll block though and it'll be fine.

[south folio]

you can dodge it but it's either tight or requires a bit of setup

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/j9b5si

[quaint verge]

@north sedge

[south folio]

and depends on the dodge distance of your weapon

[mystic ether]

I usually would wait like, idk maybe a bit before dude is about 3 meters away then dodge. Better success with knives and dodge friendly weapons and all that so that's probably my problem anyway. I just don't remember what I was using before in the past--

[frosty herald]

Is this pre 13 shredder

[mystic ether]

Nvm it'd be dead before another charge before the class overhauls 2hen I played zealot.

[south folio]

yeah i'm p confident dodging it with a duelling sword but not much else

[mystic ether]

I remember now lol

[royal vortex]

it's post patch 26 autopistol

[lean lark]

road rage

[south folio]

mald

[royal vortex]

i got up from my chair and screamed into a pillow after that happened

im p sure

[mystic ether]

Lol

Unfortunate

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/fly-me-to-the-moon-take-me-to-the-moon-send-me-to-the-moon-lets-go-to-the-moon-launch-me-to-the-moon-gif-17524452

at least

its not

[south folio]

yeah this was like after a series of getting knocked off by a plague ogryn prior right

[ember yew]

||a barrel||

[quaint verge]

[royal vortex]

smth like that

i was already mad

i remember that

[dense field]

I spot Darcy

[royal vortex]

i played with darcy until she got banned

i am the reason she thought ogryn was overpowered

[dense field]

Poor girl

[ornate bone]

Darcy got banned?

[dense field]

She did something silly

[next trench]

guys im going to study the blade

brb

[mystic ether]

Well you'll lose your fingers for one with that thing uh.

Might want to get a hilt.

[quaint verge]

1984

[next trench]

tsuba is a katana that doesnt have a guard/hilt

[vast basin]

you mean a crossguard. the sword has a hilt

[next trench]

no i dont watch anime or some shit, just have like 600 hours in kenshi

[mystic ether]

Thanks that's fine.

[mystic ether]

That's fine. Fucked up gross nurgle shit though

I'm goofing. I barely know anything about sword martial arts. Never learned. Straight striking and grappling.

My punchy hands and kicky feet

Wait Kenshi the fucking like, survival game?

[next trench]

the sandbox survival adventure

game

fkin love it so much

[ornate bone]

meaning...?

[north sedge]

tried to do a witchhunt on a playtester

[mossy lodge]

Is stopping power needed for shotguns?

[north sedge]

yes

[quaint verge]

stability is the semi dumpstat imo

[mossy lodge]

SO, THIS IS A NO

?

[quaint verge]

you could get it for the no repite blessing

if you can afford it, that is

[sharp zodiac]

Unaffordable unfortunately

[mossy lodge]

If a complete the missions i can

[thorn pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061363019420024843/1189211872038244362/cfa08b68adf4e3379fa4ddd4b5c0ae6c.mp4?ex=659d56dc&is=658ae1dc&hm=1103c0f5ca6c82fdc943bfb4dae714910d7022a13008c6482858ef584a602e61&

[blissful sinew]

convo made me type "from:coinflipcat" in discord search, thanks for the free entertainment

[royal vortex]

lmao

[formal umbra]

dumb question but ive seen people with 200 score on their trinkets, how is that? highest ive gotten is 170

[south folio]

the rating on curios is all sorts of fucked up currently

and the summary score that you see is higher than it should be for some reason

[rapid trail]

such a good gun

[blazing fossil]

damn i always get low damage with the crusher, is this normal?

on scoreboard

[formal umbra]

I see, thanks!

[south folio]

depends on how aggressive you are

[ornate bone]

Does this mean you now get 7.5% toughness per melee kill?

[south folio]

if this is a premade with equally skilled players, then i wouldn't be surprised, but you shouldn't be falling that much behind in terms of damage

[dense field]

no?

[south folio]

josho is usuallly equivalent or higher than me on his crusher zealot than the builds I run

[ornate bone]

then what?

[blazing fossil]

im running choir fwiw, with beacon, and BoF

momentum keystone

[dense field]

5%+2.5%

[spark ember]

:'DD

[ornate bone]

yea, that makes 7.5, right?

[dense field]

50% more is x1.5

[dense field]

yes

[south folio]

this is what josho runs with crusher #zealot-class message

[ornate bone]

oki

[south folio]

he runs a columnus brauto with it

[royal vortex]

that one is old

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aed3ae9-79e3-4f49-a703-887458284211/crushin-revised?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

i have made minor alterations

[south folio]

zero stamina grindset

[royal vortex]

the point of purge the unclean is boss damage more than the infested

and i dont have stamina when fighting bosses

so desperation is just flat out better except for shooting hordes/reapers/bulwarks etc

[fleet zealot]

one more for the road, till next christmas

[twilit blade]

Do you think pinning fire or blaze away is more important on an auto pistol?

[royal vortex]

pinning fire has better uptime

[formal umbra]

Gonna start flagellating myself in front of an altar so the emperor finally gives me a +2 wounds trinket

[mystic ether]

He'll probably not even feel it and slurp more psykers

[dense field]

[mystic ether]

Emperor trash, imperium garbage

[jaunty karma]

@royal vortex do you have a build path suggested for a flamer build? I went with immolation grenades and idk where to go from there. A lot of people suggested I get the toughness restoration thing but looking at what you have and I feel like I won't be able to get to the blazing fury with what people suggested me

[north sedge]

you dont build around a ranged weapon on zealot

[dense field]

Why would you want blazing fury with a flamer?

[jaunty karma]

I've heard when it's up it absolutely melts enemies

[royal vortex]

i'd rather go with throwing knives or stuns for flamer, depending on what you like

[twilit blade]

I'm considering the value of a cavalcade + Pinning fire auto pistol on a momentum build. Cavalcade is def wasted on blazing piety, but the crit chains it enables might be quite competitive for the slot on a build without a lot of crit there

[dense field]

You've heard wrong

[royal vortex]

immo nades and flamer have too much overlap

[hushed knoll]

God I’ve eaten so much meat today

[royal vortex]

autopistol has an absolutely terrible finesse modifier unfortunately

cavalcade is quite bad

[dense field]

All that crits do is stacking burn faster

[twilit blade]

Even though the finnesse is bad, the crit chains helping it punch through armor and the bonus damage it does give it do feel quite noticeable

[jaunty karma]

Do they? I didn't know crits gave additional burn stacks

[twilit blade]

and its crit chains are long enough that you don't need a ton of crit to crit more often than not

[dense field]

A crit gives 2 stacks

[royal vortex]

the main thing you need for a flamer build is chastise (fury of the faithful or w/e), since when you activate it it treats armor as 1 tier lower (carapace uses the flak ADM for damage, flak uses unarmored)

and this applies to flame DOT

beyond that you take what you want, probably depending on the melee weapon you have

[hushed knoll]

How were your Cornish hens

[dense field]

what

Also, you absolutely can build around flamer

|But that's an exception

[hushed knoll]

Dough why are you thinking so much

[next chasm]

New Dagger vs old Dagger which is better? @fading vale

[dense field]

better at what

[jaunty karma]

Does it? When I read both chastise and it's upgraded version I see nothing about it ignoring armor and everything about increasing melee damage

[dense field]

TEST IT

[formal umbra]

I mean true but when I'm playing Zealot I gotta commit to the bit

Hate that gold idiot bastard

[fading vale]

I'm not sure if one is strictly better tbh, I think people still prefer the old one more?

[frank night]

Ur already self flaggelating whenever you use the crafting system

[formal umbra]

Exactly

[fading vale]

it hasn't said it for like 12 months, but it's a 3 second armor downgrade for ranged

[fleet zealot]

i think powderburn is still heavily underrated on autopistol

[next chasm]

Which one do you prefer?

[fading vale]

I don't use knives

[blazing fossil]

Ty I’ll check it out

[night cypress]

BOF or a combat?

[royal vortex]

headshot/crit damage for autopistol looks to be identical vs flak, so i think its only really doing something for carapace (but you chastise to shoot crushers anyways), blaze away is more consistent ramping damage

[north sedge]

laz is the knife master, i've seen it, him shanking everything in sight with his big knife

[fleet zealot]

mk3 does more single target, mk6 does better wide swings

[fading vale]

I don't like either

[night cypress]

right i gotcha

[royal vortex]

autopistol has a 1.3x finesse mod, so 3 stacks of ba is equal damage

[night cypress]

personally i found BOF Lacking but the combat knife if you set it up right is a major power trip

[next chasm]

What do you use? THE WORLD DESERVES TOO KNOW!

[fading vale]

you should know by now I'm a crucis stan

[frank night]

Some say he likes the hammer

[royal vortex]

another consideration is that if you're hitting headshots (which isn't guaranteed with autopistol, granted, but it does happen often enough) the value from crits is diminished because of how the finesse boost curve works

[frank night]

Nerd emoji

[royal vortex]

fuck off

[night cypress]

angry emoji

[frank night]

That's fuckin nuts

[royal vortex]

fuck u asshole

[fading vale]

autopistol just takes pinning and blaze

[wind dagger]

not sure if this is bricked or not bc i'm not up to date on blessing changes

[fading vale]

cavalcade isn't terrible or anything but, not huge finesse scaling regardless

[royal vortex]

the problem with like a blazing piety autopistol build is that momentum just does it better for autopistol

[fading vale]

also it's not like you are constantly hitting heads with an autopistol

[royal vortex]

just throwing a crit chance perk on it is probs fine because of crit chains giving an inflated return value

[royal vortex]

nor did i say that

[fading vale]

crit chance perk should work out to like 30%ish crit

[north sedge]

im always hitting heads with the autopistol (their weiners)

[south folio]

owo

[twilit blade]

My hunt for a better autopistol will continue

[night cypress]

Chaos know you as the Weiner hitter

[twilit blade]

I really should try it on my momentum build

[hushed knoll]

[twilit blade]

though no second wind on that build is a feels bad

[dense field]

I thought that joke died last spring. People keep asking Lazorr about knives for some reason.

[sage swan]

For blessings on the new evis, you want Rampage and Shred/Sweep/ Maybe bloodletter, whichever one gave you a guaranteed crit after a revved kill

[frank night]

Mods taze stan

[royal vortex]

crab had a really good idea for implementing finesse archetypes that give weapons different distributions for damage increase between weakspot/crit

[hushed knoll]

Mittins wtf why

[north sedge]

you can have second wind with momentum?

[fading vale]

my only issue with momentum on automatics is you have to stop shooting the damn thing and then start again before the attack speed counts

[royal vortex]

i wish autopistol was a crit weapon

[frank night]

U know why

[hushed knoll]

No I don’t

Explain it to me

[sharp zodiac]

Do 'ot

[royal vortex]

but also like

autopistol should have a bleed on crit blessing

[twilit blade]

Its a bit of a stretch to reach it on my tree

[royal vortex]

it would be funny

[jaunty karma]

I'm not seeing that it does ignore some armor for ranged when I'm testing it in the meat grinder

[hushed knoll]

Mittins needs to be banned

[jaunty karma]

Maybe my damage is too low idk but I'm not seeing a difference

[fading vale]

it downgrades carapace to flak and flak to unarmored

[hushed knoll]

Ew wtf is this

[royal vortex]

it's for flak and carapace, if you apply full burn stacks to a crusher then chastise you will definitely see the difference

it works on any gun too - shoot a crusher with a brauto, it'll die if you chastise but won't if you don't

[jaunty karma]

ok so I'm doing it wrong then

[fading vale]

so max burn stacks on a crusher and then press F

[royal vortex]

yea, with flamer u gotta get em burning before u chastise or u waste it

[jaunty karma]

Do I need to hit them with the chastise?

[fading vale]

nah

[royal vortex]

nop

[fading vale]

also it won't do anything for flak on flamer

cause flak and unarmored ADM are both 100

[royal vortex]

it makes flak take less damage on laspistol lmfao

[jaunty karma]

adm?

[royal vortex]

armor damage modifier

[jaunty karma]

ah

So it's not worth against flak enemies then? Idk I'm having a hard time noticing any damage differences

[royal vortex]

it's only useful vs crushers

but it's an infinite cleave weapon

so when you get a shit ton of crushers in a swarm it gets some decent value

[dense field]

no chastise vs chastise

[fading vale]

example of flamer vs crushers

[desert yarrow]

Which one is better ? Ruthless Backstab or Mercy Killer ?

[jaunty karma]

wait how did you get that enemy in the meat grinder?

[dense field]

Creature Spawner

[north sedge]

uncanny strike, backstab if you don't have that

[jaunty karma]

There is a creature spawner in the meat grinder?

[mystic ether]

Head Canon for my zealot is that she's like the others, trying to impress some fuckers higher up on surveillance to be considered for assassinorum shit. She's a failure for what she was assigned to after making a huge fucking stink about being given the privilege.

Somehow hasn't lost her power (I just assume zealots lowkey have powers from their faith shit) and rejects the imperium but "still acts as a hidden hand for the emperor" dogshit

[north sedge]

creature spawner is a mod

[dense field]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/25

Darktide with mods is a much better experience

[mystic ether]

She's not as clever as she thinks she is and that's why she got disgraced and nearly executed for her massive fuck up.

[jaunty karma]

ah it's a mod

[dense field]

You should start using them if you're on PC

[jaunty karma]

Ok now I'm noticing a damage increase, but it's very small for the burn. When I use the regular fire once I went from a 2 burn a tick to a 3 burn a tick

[dense field]

There's something not right then

[north sedge]

also low lvl, so not getting max burn stacks

[dense field]

Makes sense

[jaunty karma]

true

[dense field]

Burn stat regulates the stat cap

[jaunty karma]

Ok seems to be an overall 50% increased in the burn damage so far

or close to it

I'll try to use that more often then

[north sedge]

only need it on crushers really

[jaunty karma]

Should I go for benediction, beacon of purity, or loner?

[dense field]

Up to you

[blazing fossil]

I like beacon for auric missions

[dense field]

But generally benediction is the best *generic* aura

[blazing fossil]

that way if someone eats a burster or two its not as bad

[dense field]

You can always default to it and it will work out

[north sedge]

Benediction > Beacon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loner

[jaunty karma]

ok cause this is what my tree currently looks like cause I was told I NEED second wind or vicious offering and when looking at Valhe's tree I felt like I was doing something horribly wrong

[north sedge]

yea you're low lvl so not a lot of room to play around

[frank night]

Which voice does this use

[north sedge]

you do need tougness gen though and second wind is fantastic

[jaunty karma]

I'm using voice which gives me 2.5% toughness gen on ranged kills

[north sedge]

meh

[frank night]

@royal vortex out for blood gives toughness on gun kills right

[jaunty karma]

and since I'm using flamer that's A LOT of gen since I'm killing most enemies in front of me

[royal vortex]

no

on EVERY kill

from any method

grenades included

[frank night]

I'm aware of the other kills

[sharp zodiac]

Big valhe

[frank night]

Hello france

[royal vortex]

big valley

[sharp zodiac]

That is not my name you crouton

[north sedge]

while flamer is good and all, you will actually have to melee eventually (and zealot is a melee focused class)

[royal vortex]

would u prefer to be referred to as the frog

[frank night]

The white frog

[sharp zodiac]

No we already have a frog

[frank night]

We have two ho ho ho funy

[pseudo valve]

you can't make me not with this knife

[royal vortex]

anyways run out for blood ET with lawbringer

[jaunty karma]

yeah I'm thinking of making my melee weapon single target damage

[royal vortex]

load special

aim head height at horde

fill toughness bar

shut up don't be snarky

[frank night]

I'm anticipating the sheer agony I am going to feel tomorrow

[fading vale]

I'd also swap to the right side stuff above fire nade, purge is nice damage and restoring faith is just good for like 33% more health

[frank night]

Who is shutting up

[royal vortex]

you

i anticipated

some sort of insult

[pseudo valve]

well now you just look rude

[sharp zodiac]

Honestly I was expecting it to be me

[frank night]

Is this 'mittins' in the room with us

[royal vortex]

i always look rude

[sharp zodiac]

I was typing up somein

But I forgot midway

[royal vortex]

lmao

[jaunty karma]

is unclean and unyielding enemies that common?

[royal vortex]

happens to the best of us (me)

[royal vortex]

no, mootifios is though

[jaunty karma]

I didn't take it originally cause it sounded situational

[fading vale]

unyielding are bulwarks, reapers, and monstrosities

[frank night]

He will delete his words for fear of making the rpg npc sad

[pseudo valve]

It's free real estate

[fading vale]

infested are poxwalkers poxbursters and dogs

[jaunty karma]

ok

[royal vortex]

i would never

[frank night]

Burgle should be infested to fuck with perks

[sharp zodiac]

Who is the rpg npc

Heh that almost rhymes

Good job me

[royal vortex]

i want infested variants of every melee elite

[frank night]

It's you since u began talking to urself

[sharp zodiac]

Shut up

Or else

[royal vortex]

"or else" doesn't really work on him i've tried

[sharp zodiac]

Ok

Uh

I'll force feed him snails

[royal vortex]

what da hell

[mystic ether]

Damn

That's fucked

[fading vale]

packs of infested ragers that deal corruption

[sharp zodiac]

Not even the cooked kind

[royal vortex]

if ragers actually functioned as an interesting enemy to fight? fuck yeah

[mystic ether]

How you gonna stop the wretching?

[frank night]

How will u do this

[sharp zodiac]

Sneak into your home in a giant chicken costume

Confuse you long enough to dump snails on you

[mystic ether]

It'll get annoying when dude starts getting tremors.

[frank night]

U can't afford a chicken costume

[fading vale]

attacking ragers have too much stagger resistance and 3.75m range is annoying and also the fact the attacks are undodgeable is stupid

[frank night]

U play gacha

[sharp zodiac]

Nuh uh

I can afford the hat

[royal vortex]

yup

[frank night]

Tf u mean nuh uh

[sharp zodiac]

Nuh uh

Built difft

[royal vortex]

i don't really mind the "undodgeable" characteristic as in you don't get iframes, but combined with the range it's absolutely stupid

one of those has to go and of the two i'd much rather see them tune the range down

[fading vale]

I don't like that you can't time side dodges

[frank night]

I told josho I died to ragers and he typed a paragraph in caps lock about skill issue

[royal vortex]

oh yeah absolutely

[sharp zodiac]

That sounds funny

[royal vortex]

there's basically no interactivity when it comes to movement, you spam dodge backwards if you can't stagger them

[royal vortex]

when was this

was it the ps6

[fading vale]

why are you a frog now

[frank night]

When I told u about dying to ragers

[light holly]

Just block wait till the last combo

[royal vortex]

stan said im not a frog

[sharp zodiac]

Why are you only noticing this now

[fading vale]

of course

[royal vortex]

i had to prove him wrong

[frank night]

Nato decided he is a frog

[sharp zodiac]

Like..THE NATO

[dense field]

That doesn't apply to low levels. Grow your skill tree down.

[frank night]

The nato yes

[royal vortex]

you're blocking and moving backwards, especially when the game dumps 20 ragers on you

[light holly]

Oh yeah

[edgy sluice]

the new twohanded chainsword good?

[royal vortex]

swap to gun once safe and dispatch

that's all there is to em

[frank night]

The nato alliance plays darktide

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[royal vortex]

both eviscerators are good yeah

[ornate bone]

Man I swear ogryns are better at dodging then zealots are

[sharp zodiac]

One of them is a knife zel

[light holly]

But then I hit Chastise the weak and cut down 5 and then chastise again

[jaunty karma]

ok

[royal vortex]

mk 15 can one-shot crushers with a good stat roll, + carapace, and bloodthirsty

[frank night]

Quiet you

[royal vortex]

which is funny

[frank night]

Blow up your sink

[royal vortex]

(nobody saw my spelling mistake)

[sharp zodiac]

What the fuck

You're very lucky I didn't

[ornate bone]

Practicly invincible as an ogryn but man my zealot gameplay stinks I swear I’m doging

[sharp zodiac]

I would've gone erhm actually

[frank night]

I was telling the french off

I was distracted

[fading vale]

ogryn is just invincible by default for free

[royal vortex]

ogryn has batshit insane survivability. baseline 36% toughness dr, 20% hp dr, and 3x 10% tdr nodes that are additive with each other

[fading vale]

66% TDR for existing

[frank night]

And yet

[royal vortex]

ogryn has worse dodges (i think ogryn has no dodge linger state at all while zealot has 0.3s of it) by default

so it's less a dodge thing and more u can literally just hold the mouse button for heavy attacks and survive a LOT

[ornate bone]

Then why can I dodge attacks as ogryn all day but take a beating as zealot

[royal vortex]

and u can't quite do this on zealot

[ornate bone]

Oh

[fading vale]

you are probably still getting hit on ogryn it just doesn't matter

[light holly]

You should be taking hits as ogryn

[royal vortex]

ogryn can hit-trade and lose barely any hp

[frank night]

The legend of dhcrusher

[sharp zodiac]

It's like the Shaquille O'Neal fighting a midget

[royal vortex]

can we bar the french from making analogies

[sharp zodiac]

What the fuck

[frank night]

She typed midget

[royal vortex]

back me up on this

do not be a contrarian

stand with your allies

you SNAKE

[fading vale]

of course, the French can't be trusted

[frank night]

[sharp zodiac]

Listen to me and think of the benefits

[fading vale]

they served me bad food multiple times last time I was in Paris

sus

[sharp zodiac]

Well that's because you were in Paris that place fucking sucks

Other than for spectacles

And rats

[royal vortex]

paris seems to be like the premier place to be disappointed as a tourist

from what ive heard

[fading vale]

well I had to be in Paris sorry

[sharp zodiac]

Should've said no

[royal vortex]

i almost said something

im so very glad i stopped myself

[sharp zodiac]

See now I'm curious

[royal vortex]

nope

[frank night]

Paris is where you go to get sworn at in french

[south folio]

kill mittins

[royal vortex]

do not kill mittins

he promised me death next time he tells a joke while im eating

i will hold him to this

[south folio]

oh ok

[fading vale]

I did go one time to Paris and there was a Christmas festival thing, the stalls there were dope, had this I think Raclette sandwich

[sharp zodiac]

My father likes them

[frank night]

Mon pear

[fading vale]

and whatever the Christmas hot wine stuff they serve was good

[sharp zodiac]

What about your pear

[fading vale]

I hate that I always think about baguette when I think of France

[sharp zodiac]

We have so many other things

[fading vale]

no you just have baguettes obviously

[sharp zodiac]

Right my mistake

[royal vortex]

even more vile creations, it's true

[night cypress]

i just use my bolt gun on them armoured or not i just dont wanna deal with it

[buoyant pecan]

I remember when #meme (rip) made memes about the french

[sharp zodiac]

My country has nothing but french kissing, baguettes and ducks

[buoyant pecan]

And the French got upset but we were defended by the French who werent

[night cypress]

sign me up

[fading vale]

ranged deletes them yes but what if instead they were an engaging enemy to melee with

[sharp zodiac]

Oh god why am I being called

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/well-i-might-have-been-wrong-dermot-mulroney-john-carmichael-hanna-i-could-be-wrong-gif-17698504

[night cypress]

dont think fatsharks smart enough for that

[dense field]

It's perfect

[royal vortex]

they did it with vermintide

i believe in them

[frank night]

im currently your enemy he has dragged me into war

[timber ether]

it is tho

[night cypress]

yeah this is poopoo compared to VT though

[royal vortex]

pre-patch 13 ogryn*

[night cypress]

and it seems they didn;t learn from VT

[fading vale]

I feel so dumb just being like, oh let me whip out my revolver that 1 shots 2 ragers at a time

[royal vortex]

p13+ ogryn is stupid op yeah

and in a really boring and unengaging way

[frank night]

get me back to my flat with my pc that does not have to slowly load discord messages

oh my GOD

[woeful oyster]

That's it, it's over. I have the God Hammer.

[royal vortex]

i for one am glad you are suffering

[sharp zodiac]

Any kind of french joke I've heard at this point

You eventually just get numb to it

Especially when browsing Twitter and reddit

[sharp zodiac]

What would you gain from this

I will haunt your bathroom

[dense field]

Imagine if crushers had an actual weak spot haha wouldn't that be stupid and boring lol

[royal vortex]

i have more than 1 bathroom

i could simply avoid you

[dense field]

[sharp zodiac]

Fuck

My plan is ruined

[fading vale]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[timber ether]

how so? just overbuffed?

[night cypress]

french more like... yeah

[frank night]

bro planned out his home to avoid social activity

[night cypress]

its probably sad i know the video this is from

[royal vortex]

it's an incredibly tanky class just for existing and almost all of the weapons are designed to be as braindead as possible

[frank night]

ah

it seems the snake instinct won

[carmine ridge]

anybody want to get the Just a Flesh Wound penance?

[frank night]

i apologise

[sharp zodiac]

Apologize*

[fading vale]

might have more luck in the LFG channel

[night cypress]

do you larp as the TF2 Spy?

[frank night]

blow up your sink

[carmine ridge]

okay thanks

[timber ether]

they gotta nerf feels no pain sometime, i can agree. only thing that scares me is trappers but the guns are so good now they cant get near.

[sharp zodiac]

I do not for I am no French male who dropped a bomb and ran from the explosion giving birth to a Boston kid who loves drinking radiation

[sharp zodiac]

Let that sink in

[fading vale]

well you can get free 66% TDR by default just with 3 of the 10% nodes, and you have 20% health DR by default

and then just spam heavies and generate huge toughness instantly

[woeful oyster]

To the uninitiated, this is the average response. But indeed, Crit damage and Unyielding are ALL that matters for one shotting bosses. Weakspot is secondary to crit damage. With guaranteed crits on Fury...GG

[royal vortex]

the baseline dr of ogryn is too high - the point of the talent trees was to shift all the old passives and whatnot to the talent system so that u would have more choice in how u build ur char

and then they left one of the strongest passives on ogryn for free

[fading vale]

crit damage is adding like 0 to your total damage sadly

[night cypress]

god with this lore knowledge the female spy mod really turns that on its head

[woeful oyster]

Incorrect

[fading vale]

if it were actually 10% then it might be something

at best on a crit weakspot it's adding like, 2 or 3%

[woeful oyster]

learn to math

[fading vale]

uh

you don't know how it works do you

[night cypress]

numba go higher; it good

[fading vale]

like it's legitimately only 2 or 3%

because it only modifies the crit portion of the damage

[woeful oyster]

What is 10% of 4,000?

[royal vortex]

the time-honored tradition must commence once again

no bud ur not getting it

what it's doing is adding 10% to the additional damage granted by a crit

[dense field]

He doesn't know

[royal vortex]

so for instance in a pure hypothetical, you have a 100 damage weapon

and you deal 200 damage on a crit

[north sedge]

The doc got his phd at university of phoenix

[royal vortex]

intuitively you assume it's gonna deal 220 with 10% crit, but it's actually 210 because it only adds the extra 10% to the additional crit damage

[woeful oyster]

Not all questions are asked because the asker doesn't know the answer.

[royal vortex]

because fatshark hates crit damage

[fading vale]

yeah and hammer has low crit scaling

[night cypress]

yeah doesn't feel like alot lol

specially for a crit

[fading vale]

so it's really like

[south folio]

you evidently do not know

[fading vale]

100 to 140

and 10% crit damage makes it 144

[royal vortex]

yup

anyways it would be nice if u would stop being smug about this when it's you who doesn't understand how it works

no need for hostility

[fading vale]

fatshark has gotten us all at some point with crit and weakspot perks

they are super misleading

[royal vortex]

yeah literally nobody would assume it works the way it does

it's really annoying

[woeful oyster]

I fucking hate FatShat

[night cypress]

what does the thing actually say?

[blissful sinew]

fartshart

[night cypress]

just 10% extra or 10% to crit

[royal vortex]

it says 10% critical hit damage

[night cypress]

pretty.. self..

[woeful oyster]

Either way it still one shots...So fuck it

[fading vale]

I mean, anyone would assume it's 10% more damage on a critical hit

[dense field]

Weakspot damage is similar to that

[night cypress]

well i dont wanna be rude but even with foresight 10% crit damage clearly means 10% to the crit damage

[royal vortex]

but it's like, you see 10% crit damage in any other game and you assume it works for the total damage number and it does

[sharp zodiac]

Splendid

Sounds like my food is done

[night cypress]

why wouldn't it

lol

[sharp zodiac]

It's not

[ornate bone]

Crit damage is like

[royal vortex]

but with tide games in particular it doesn't do it that way

[south folio]

oh boy i sure hope that +10% weakspot damage adds +10% of the total damage that I deal to a weakspot

[royal vortex]

it's weakspot damage too

[night cypress]

what ya cooking?

[ornate bone]

The higher your crit damage modifier, the better

[sharp zodiac]

Ham

[ornate bone]

But the problem is

If it was LIKE ANY NORMAL FUCKING GAME

It'd still have the same effect

[night cypress]

Gimme

[fading vale]

one of the first guns I used was an mg12 with 10% weakspot damage lol

[sharp zodiac]

Maybe

[night cypress]

just to change the conversation; i have Lacerate and Mercy killer on my god modifier rolled knife

i hope this upsets everyone reading

[fading vale]

[night cypress]

ahhaa

[dense field]

Thank you

That was refreshing

[royal vortex]

fatshark forced themselves into a weird corner where now every fkin weakspot/crit damage talent or blessing has to be astronomically high to have value

which is just funny

[sharp zodiac]

We needed to fill the lacerate quota of the day

[sharp zodiac]

I need to take that drug right fucking now

[south folio]

who let you out of jail

[fading vale]

me when bleed knife pops up

[ornate bone]

I rememeber when

[dense field]

Bleed knife and critical damage are perpetual topics

[buoyant pecan]

Stan tier

[night cypress]

honestly it works kinda funky with mercy killer; quick body shot then headshot and you get the bonus weakspot damage

[royal vortex]

horrific

[royal vortex]

i remember when scattershot was

4% crit chance on multiple enemies hit

it was less than a t4 crit perk.

[fading vale]

absolutely fucking useless

[ornate bone]

NO MRS POTATO HEAD DON'T ENTER THE ARCOTASH DARKTIDE TEXTURE ROOM NOOOOOO

[royal vortex]

there were like 2-3 ppl who would use it

[fading vale]

and now it's just like oh here have 60% crit

[royal vortex]

it was so fucking stupid

[royal vortex]

when i would say i wanted it buffed i just wanted it to be 5% stacking 5 times

[open echo]

i really need this for shotgun but i don't want to waste melk moneys

[royal vortex]

but hey

12% per stack

that's fine. yeah.

[dense field]

This is what peak zealot performance looks like

[north sedge]

I had to blur and desaturate a cg model from over 20 years ago so much to get her to fit into arcos deranged settings

[fading vale]

tbf it has to be a stupidly high number in order to utilize the other crit blessings

[blissful sinew]

"so, your deadly skill is jogging? mine is murdering people" one knife zealot to another probably

[ornate bone]

Scattershot giving you the crit bonus independent of cleave

Thanks Fatshark

[royal vortex]

eh, i feel it's a little too much considering we have good crit chance options in the talent trees now

but also like

i don't care

no reason to nerf it

[fading vale]

and it's weirdly kind of balanced because you are sacrificing the blessings that make the shotgun good

[ornate bone]

I think I said it before

[royal vortex]

nobody is going DAMN THIS SCATTERSHOT GUN IS OVERPERFORMING

[ornate bone]

I like having an unstoppable player fighting an unstoppable enemy

[night cypress]

@sharp zodiac can you say this in a thick french male accent for me ❤️

[ornate bone]

As long as they can somehow make the enemy scale to our power on the highest difficulty, I'm sold

[royal vortex]

i like having games where the sound is functional and the ai director can't make a fucking server crash because it spawns too much shit

[ornate bone]

My problem with Warframe was the game just turned braindead after you made a good build

At least in Darktide you still do shit like block, dodge, push, headshot

In Warframe you could just 44444444444444444

[night cypress]

to get there though that's im guessing hundreds of hours or.. hundreds of dollars

[ornate bone]

And it was like ughhhhhh this is not power fantasy

Well, I do have like 2000 hours or so

But it wasn't particularly hard to make a good build tbh

[royal vortex]

ask for a refund

[night cypress]

thats my point

[royal vortex]

obviously not enough content

[ornate bone]

It was just finding the right mod and upgrading it

Trading had some niches, but it was very accessible for people who wanted to buy important items, like formas and catalysts/reactors

[trail grove]

I'm just imagining a Toughness Zealot.

[ornate bone]

That's most zealots I assume

Well, not after marty, but

Were

[north sedge]

So a normal zealot

[night cypress]

toughness for zealot is just how many ads in a horde he can run barge through

[trail grove]

I mean it like all their durability comes from just Toughness

[ornate bone]

Yeah

[jaunty karma]

the Orthus offensive is good practice for bosses that are always on your ass

[ornate bone]

That's like one of the main builds

[trail grove]

Even though they (or at least in the past) were more about Health durability.

[ornate bone]

You get crit, get benediction, chastise and you become John Zealot, pre-13 (PATCH) enjoyer

[north sedge]

Toughness was always better

It's just betterer now

[ornate bone]

Even people who maybe used a single health curio to capitalize on the base health probably still ran 2 toughness and toughness perks

Specially when holy revenant gave you full health

[trail grove]

Now that I thought about it, imagine if everyone had a Toughness-focused support build.

[ornate bone]

You kinda didn't need health curios when you had free 200 health every minute and a half

[north sedge]

🤔

[sharp zodiac]

I cannot unfortunately

[ornate bone]

So the build I mentioned above but chorus instead of chastise

[night cypress]

shame

[trail grove]

As in, Veteran's VoC combined with Psyker's Shield Dome, and uh...what's the Ogryn's?

[sharp zodiac]

My accent isn't as thick as other members in my family

[ornate bone]

I can do a great Pepe Le Pew impression

shits self

[night cypress]

there's a joke here somewhere.

[ornate bone]

You know what they say about folks with thin accents

[buoyant pecan]

Americans in the south be like

[trail grove]

Anyway, imagine all the Toughness

[ornate bone]

Something about the size of their feet

And you know what they say about people with big feet

[buoyant pecan]

Big feet big shoes

[ornate bone]

Something about the size of their ear

[fading vale]

lmfao

[sharp zodiac]

Where is this going

[ornate bone]

And you know what they say about people with big ears

[night cypress]

LOL

This fucking conversation

[ornate bone]

Anime openings enhance any moment

When Cruel Angel's Thesis started blasting while I was shutting my brain off exploring the map in GW2, suddenly everything I did was worthy of a video edit with a transition every second

[north sedge]

https://youtu.be/tJdgErAfiRQ?si=4rjv5Hpf41qCP0ck

[buoyant pecan]

That's why I got cap cut

To steal footage from yt and put anime music over it

https://tenor.com/view/salute-burt-lancaster-run-silent-run-deep-saluting-hero-gif-26186351

[sharp zodiac]

Full, gotta get ready to head back to the hotel

Hope that deer isn't there still

[median steeple]

Peta

The deer is here

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-deer-wrestle-wrestling-anime-gif-17501517

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lurking-gif-22179921

[left iron]

It haunts me in every game

[median steeple]

Back to the mines with me (quick play damnation)

[median steeple]

Actual darkride brain rot

[sharp zodiac]

I like how my IAG bullets just have magnets to the enemies

I could aim at a wall and still hit them

Forece power

That almost corrected to something else

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/zorg-my-favorite-smile-gif-12714298

[trail grove]

Hm. I wonder what would be a good equivalent to the Greatsword (Eviscerator feels more like the Executioner Sword).

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/yo-piglet-this-edible-aint-shit-gif-19682644

[rustic lagoon]

I had a moment like that on stream before I picked up Darktide. I just lost all bodily function.

[nimble fiber]

lmao the eds must have been high quality

just made some, hope they turn out good

[median steeple]

played one pub game and I can't no more

[steel sedge]

who up praising they emperor

[night cypress]

no one

[steel sedge]

but the emperor is greatest

[median steeple]

That's what lorgar said before he went crazy

[steel sedge]

i'd believe that

[ripe quest]

mrw 2/3 shotguns are finesse weapons and you can get 85% crit chance for free and have extra effects.

[sharp zodiac]

I'm just trying to sleep then I'll get playing risk of rain and resist the urge of the Darktide

[ripe quest]

Become depraved and have 4k hours in RoR2.

[sharp zodiac]

It's still installing

[fading vale]

well, it's more like 40-50% crit chance cause scattershot at best is every other shot and you aren't max stacking it every shot

but who runs piety anyways

gross

[heavy burrow]

It gives me severe case of gamblers depression

[nimble fiber]

darktide calls for u

[ripe quest]

On Hi-Shock it's easy to get at least something to proc multiple stacks off. Esp on Lawby, you don't even need lined up enemies for it.

I'm like, avg. getting 2-3 stacks and max against a group of anything.

[fading vale]

yes but you don't expend and build stacks at the same time

[ripe quest]

Did they change it?

[fading vale]

I use scattershot and no respite on my lawbringer

[ripe quest]

Gotta test it now

[fading vale]

Looking at the buff icons I've never noticed it building stacks when I crit

they all go away

and then you build more stacks next shot

[open echo]

is commodores rotation this thursday?

[median steeple]

yes (hopefully)

there is a chance it doesn't update due to something being broken and no one being around to fix it due to the holidays

[open echo]

yeah ig

[median steeple]

time to wallow in the pit of despair that is steams cloud status

[night cypress]

thought its friday?

[open echo]

guh?

[night cypress]

yeah every other friday

[open echo]

its normally Thursday

[ripe quest]

Every test seems to show it stacking and expending each shot.

[median steeple]

no it changed when the krieg shit released

[night cypress]

oh

[median steeple]

it was friday now its thursday

[night cypress]

huh..

ok

[ripe quest]

Could be a Solo/Psyk bug, I too don't really look at my buffs since I just pray my build does it's job lol

[night cypress]

i just want to see more backpacks in the shop lol

[fading vale]

huh, idk

[royal summit]

Devs should add dance emotes

[fading vale]

I don't run piety either, but maybe I just never noticed

[north sedge]

I simply trust that my bleeds are doing fucking sick dmg 😔

[median steeple]

I love psyk being constantly dumb yippie!!!

[ripe quest]

I pray that it's not a Psyk bug because that would mean the goober shotgun 2000 is running at 50% capacity.

Even without Manstopper it still stacks the same.

[fading vale]

I doubt it's a psyk bug

[trail grove]

Does the Lawbringer shotgun need a rework or something?

Or just a buff?

[fading vale]

but idk I swear I've looked and I don't get more stacks after like, critting on lawbringer special

I could be delusional

lawbringer is good wdym

[median steeple]

Aren't we all

[trail grove]

Haven't tried it in a while

[fading vale]

run no respite and scattershot

[trail grove]

So I might take it back after I tried it

Also tempted to get another shotgun with flechette.

Cuz this question has been in my mind for a bit.

[fleet zealot]

lawbringer is good rn

[trail grove]

"How to be a Bloodletter"

[delicate shadow]

That’s a power beyond containment

[trail grove]

It's literally just a build obsessed with bleed

[fiery galleon]

Will the base version of "The Emperors will" (7% toughness damage reduction for the team) get removed when you equip "Beacon of purity" (middle aura)?

[fiery galleon]

Or does the zealot keep his 7% toughness damage reduction overall?

And you can upgrade it to 15% with Benediction

[open echo]

does the caxe need faithful frenzy?

[north sedge]

Replace

Faithful frenzy?

[open echo]

huh

[north sedge]

Replace was not for you

[open echo]

ah

[north sedge]

You can probably live without it?

[open echo]

ig

[viral hare]

So what actually counts as a weakspot with mercy killer

[north sedge]

Headshot

[viral hare]

Just headshots? So backstabs don’t count dang

[carmine hare]

Ok, i wil ask my question here
How do i summon the cross that pulses the weird energie

[light holly]

Iirc

You can get a headshot backstab

[viral hare]

huh

[carmine hare]

I looked it up already but can't find it

[light holly]

But I would test it out

[north sedge]

I mean you can get a headshot backstab

[viral hare]

I’ll test that out Ty yall

[north sedge]

You have to have chorus as your skill, and uh, use the skill

[open echo]

its this talent

[carmine hare]

Ok

[fleet zealot]

https://twitter.com/8BitMickey/status/1739524811976560689 found stan out in the wild

[blissful sinew]

curious about this too

[fleet zealot]

yes

[blissful sinew]

[fleet zealot]

aura replaces the old one

[ripe quest]

I'm noticing that the stacks icon will disappear early when firing the special shot, but it'll still function like normal. Seems to happen when you click early but the game uses input buffering to fire like normal, just after the animation plays.

[fading vale]

huh maybe that's why then

[carmine hare]

Do you persons make your own builds or?

Cause i have mine from internet

[north sedge]

I've hired a team of below min wage skilltree builders

[open echo]

i make my own and sometimes ask for advice here

[carmine hare]

Ok

[fleet zealot]

i make my own and then look at what other people run and ask questions

mainly here

cause youtube can be hit or miss, and games lantern is full of garbage builds people post

[open echo]

gameslantern builds are kinda funny

there is a few good ones

but they are rare

[carmine hare]

Like if you persons wanne play sometime this week i will probebly be on
Like i'm the noob here, so i need to learn to get good in this game

[open echo]

the darktide yt community is either people who actually know what they are doing, and people that have no clue what they are doing

[fleet zealot]

there is basically no filter on game's lantern or really way for the community to vet/filter builds

here you get the full brunt and explanations on why something is good or bad

[carmine hare]

Wel i am the second, i don't know what i am doing

Come from World of Warcraft so yeah

Totale different game

[fleet zealot]

honestly, with the current meta

[night cypress]

brave soul

[fleet zealot]

just pick what you have fun with, then ask around here what is the best to use with that

[fleet zealot]

tbf, warcraft 2023 is specifically hearthstone fan-art

and uhh, they almost released a time traveling scene about Alextraza and the Dragonmaw clan which is about as dark as you can get

[nova ginkgo]

I didnt even know that, but the overall "feel" is well depicted

but not saying wow is bad or anything

[carmine hare]

Stopt doint World of Warcraft because the story and al is to soft and tender

[carmine hare]

There is no War

[fleet zealot]

warcraft has always had complaints of being cartoony, at least as far pack as war3 (i'm too young to know about the first two games)

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120299759316520960/1189139443588796476/VID_20231225164921_1.mp4?ex=659d1368&is=658a9e68&hm=d5bed9e4dcd47c9c3023c8708df2c073dc7a8e56469c8a8a42d208be08b5f21a&

[fleet zealot]

wow released and people ragged on it for being too casual and cartoonish compared to other MMOs at the time

[nova ginkgo]

Well I played the first 2 games and WoW since release and that's my opinion, but then again it's just my opinion

[ripe quest]

Getting paid to build skilltrees?

[fleet zealot]

the issue with current wow is way more than "it's not as grim dark as it was"

[blissful sinew]

retail stinx

[fleet zealot]

yea

[shy river]

humanity was a mistake in general

[carmine hare]

Wel now its like this
We hath the Ultimate baddass in Shadowlands, the Jailer and the killed him in one Raid

[ripe quest]

You are what you eat.

[fleet zealot]

wow tried to do what GoW did

but GoW succeeded, and wow fumbled the bag and now it flip flops

The start I believe of the downfall was post-wotlk and when your character went from adventure to "CHAMPION"

[carmine hare]

He was the grand design after The Lich King, Silvanas and so on
The lift longer than one seson

[fleet zealot]

the jailer was just shittily written

[ember yew]

Sylvana is honestly like the worst character

idk

[fleet zealot]

Sylvanas is probably the least worst part

[ember yew]

i played wow for like 12000 hours

[carmine hare]

Yeah sadly

[ember yew]

cant wrap my head around her character

[fleet zealot]

Cause her view almost made sense until BfA->SL era and then it shit the bed

[ember yew]

also

[fleet zealot]

the split soul thing is stupid but there was actual character depth before that

[ember yew]

Anduin whining gets old fast too

[carmine hare]

True

[blissful sinew]

yeah old sylvanas was alright

[fleet zealot]

Anduin has every right to whine and have ptsd imo

[ember yew]

and when i dived into shadowlands

[fleet zealot]

sylvanas was like, ok, anything for her adopted subjects, no matter the cost, which makes her this great grey character

[ember yew]

i expected some epic story

not the story about two gay elfs druid ostracized be their society

like come on

[fleet zealot]

I don't even remember that part but then again I only did 2/4 campaigns

[night cypress]

my kinda story

[fleet zealot]

also pretty sure that was a sidequest

[ember yew]

its one of the

covenants

[fleet zealot]

or it sounds like that

[ember yew]

main quest for covenant

cant say thats a side quest tbh

also covenant grinding was kinda sad

[fleet zealot]

ehh, still minor SL had a lot more issues, but they were just worsening issues from BfA

[ember yew]

true

how many of you guys saw actual bottrains

like 12 druids

[blissful sinew]

i wouldnt even mind so much about the story being not great but the gameplay is annoying too, holy shit i am sick of simon says mechanics

[ember yew]

or 20 bots farming one spot

[fleet zealot]

i play classic SoD, i've seen bots and multiboxers

[ember yew]

i remember running around top spots and counting like 300+ bots alone

[fleet zealot]

yea modern wow mechanics are shitty and unclear

arcane mage requires a college degree to play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oHGKdzM_a8

[ember yew]

arcane mage was like 1111112 back in the day

[carmine hare]

Speaking of Anduin, everybody in WoW says it and thincks it
His father was way bether, he went to bed with a Dragonaspect and was a true king
Anduin is just a crybaby that does not even has a son or doughter to follow the throne

[ember yew]

good times

[fleet zealot]

lol

[blissful sinew]

rotations can be interesting and intensive

[fleet zealot]

anduin is a soft hearted person and that is fair and allowed and def not the issue

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166785409938903211/1189310145688260780/rapidsave.com_rule-i9bv6rgtkd8c1.mov?ex=659db263&is=658b3d63&hm=9411ce0bdd7944d957e83afe99704aa2312f90c853b3c265ff5c4016962c180e& me running shroudfield knife lacerate

[fleet zealot]

Not to mention, Varian was heavily influenced by his son before the legion expansion

[copper hawk]

flesh tearer, lacerate*

[fleet zealot]

they can be, but they can also be needlessly complex and virtually unlearnable from a new player perspective

[ember yew]

Emerald Dream is next addon right? I remember it was leaked

[fleet zealot]

no? The War Within

emerald dream was this patch in retail

[raven swan]

Knife zaelot makes me cringe

[carmine hare]

Yip

[ember yew]

ok then

i dropped by the end of shadowlands

[fleet zealot]

yea, I played a bit more for pvp but even the dragon lands professions drove me off

it was a good levelling campaign but holy fuck

[ember yew]

what they did to professions tho

[fleet zealot]

levelling spider web trees

[ember yew]

is that dead by daylight

[fleet zealot]

where you specialize in one specific item slot

[ember yew]

ouch

[fleet zealot]

but since there is botter and no lifers

you can't ever make a profit cause no one wants your shitty bracers when someone already completed their web for bracers and also has an alt for every other thing that profession can make

dragonflight had like

one really great story moment from a sidequest and that's it

[blissful sinew]

my phone died halfway through my post lmao

i was going to say, there can be crazy rotations but it is absolutely infuriating trying to have fun playing one while the game forces you to pay attention to something else every second

[ember yew]

id wish they resume support for Heroes of the Storm

[blissful sinew]

i miss when raid encounters were designed differently, not about constantly spawning stuff under and around the player to dodge constantly but about the raid doing things other than their rotations together

[blissful sinew]

it would honestly be so nice if hots made a comeback

[cedar maple]

does +10% damage versus elites apply to crushers or is it only +25% carapace that applies to them?

[north sedge]

It will apply to crushers yes

All elites

[fading vale]

I have spotted a large ball

[nimble fiber]

https://youtu.be/YAZVJ44E3tE?feature=shared

[signal prism]

Steve!

[rustic lagoon]

Updated my gear. And the 302 rating is before I consecrated my Mk XV Heavy Evidcerator. Now it's 317.

[copper hawk]

triangle

[carmine hare]

Is that the best weapon

I was thincking to use the Thunder Hamer

[sturdy cypress]

Depends on usecase and build