zealot-class

[fading vale]

mostly meme

you need scattershot to enable either of them

so you only get to pick either manstopper or flechette

[vale carbon]

i'll just use a crit perk then :^)

[fading vale]

that still isn't enough

[vale carbon]

it'll fix all the problems

trust me bro

[fading vale]

base crit is 5%

oh I see

also base crit is 5% only when ADSing lol

0 at hipfire

for whatever reason

[ripe quest]

Scattershot/Manstopper is fun on Lawby and Agri.

Spreading the damage is nice.

[fading vale]

I always run scattershot on lawby

[calm salmon]

someone help me understand this weapon

I don't get it

this thing confuses me

do I just have to accept that hordes are no longer my job

[vale carbon]

you hit things and they die

simple as

[fading vale]

it's a short pointy blade

that pretends to have a cleave heavy

[calm salmon]

okay but like memes aside

do I just fuck off from hordes and let my team handle them while focusing on elites/specials

that seems to be the correct choice

but I might just be crazy i dunno

[flat marsh]

Just stab more

[fading vale]

yeah knife is just ass at hordes

[calm salmon]

rest in peace kerillian dual knives

acceptable horde clear, gigasingle target damage

[flat marsh]

Momentum and an autoclicker is actually pretty decent at horde clear

Not the best of course

[calm salmon]

I mean I'm on vet

I just uh

vet chat

[fading vale]

oh.....

[calm salmon]

so no

I'd rather come here first

[fading vale]

why would you use it on vet

[calm salmon]

I dunno

cause its funny

[flat marsh]

I mean vet still has those attack speed upgrades at the end

[visual stream]

Anyone here play the Yakuza games before

[flat marsh]

It's like a discount momentum

[calm salmon]

this is what I've been using

so yeah, swap swap keystone for 20% attack speed total

10% from trench fighter, 10% from swap swap

[flat marsh]

Tbh, I still prefer the old knife

[visual stream]

Some of the Yakuza OST is peak for Darktide

[calm salmon]

I suppose I have enough materials to fish for a knife

but I'd rather save up more

for a plasma gun first

[fading vale]

I think you need a magnet for knife fishing

[tacit stratus]

😦 trying to play on pc and i am getting error code 3013, 😦

[vale carbon]

here's a soltution

[calm salmon]

The best I can do is a worm on a hook

[vale carbon]

give those materails to me

[calm salmon]

i refuse

[ripe quest]

You use a ranged weapon to soften hordes.

[tacit stratus]

anyone know how to get around error 3013.....????

[calm salmon]

there is none

just keep trying to login

balanced and pog fatshark design

[fading vale]

yall ever end up on those weird YouTube shorts about magnet fishing, finding guns and grenades, and then calling the police

[calm salmon]

sometimes

but I try my level best to not engage with shorts

they're actually a problem for me

[fading vale]

what else would I do on Christmas

[calm salmon]

I dunno

drink rum and play darktide

wanna play a few games

I swear I'm not so drunk I'm worthless

[north sedge]

I get shit like this

[fading vale]

lol

[calm salmon]

gross

[fading vale]

I'm not in a mood to play, I'm probably gonna sleep in like an hour

[calm salmon]

okie

[fading vale]

I get rug cleaning videos too

[night cypress]

shorts are some what based off search history

[calm salmon]

enjoy your fortress of dreams shouty

[night cypress]

so whatever you're searching LOL

[fading vale]

idk man when you scroll long enough you get the most random stuff

[sharp zodiac]

I need that rug

[north sedge]

I mostly get cooking stuff, just screencapped that rug one cause it was wild

[calm salmon]

i mostly get big bang theory

and uh

cats

so like some good some bad

[fading vale]

I get cooking stuff too

[calm salmon]

we love our furry friends

[sharp zodiac]

I just get cats, the guy with the root beer voice, memes and arknights

[fading vale]

and sometimes they will put big bang theory like 10 times in 20 videos

[sharp zodiac]

Oh and family huy

[calm salmon]

rereading this, oof.

[fading vale]

and I get Kurt the cat

[dim otter]

what is root beer voice

[calm salmon]

but I refuse to rephrase it

[sharp zodiac]

I get Kurt sometimes

But mostly I get Luna (the crunchy cat)

[calm salmon]

I'm glad I'm not the only one

hey

does anyone have a good tv show

I'm gonna watch chernobyl here soon

so let that influence your suggestions

[fading vale]

how about some remarkably degenerate anime

[sharp zodiac]

https://youtu.be/lAoSLAPIQbI?si=o9IWQ5hABsyKlEIk

[calm salmon]

sounds good to me

toss it my way

I'll put it on the watchlist

[dim otter]

alright that was uhh different

[fading vale]

ok ill give you an actual good "degen" suggestion

Cross Ange

[sharp zodiac]

Fanter

[fading vale]

girls mechs and dragons with actual story

[calm salmon]

rondo of angel and dragon?

[fading vale]

yeah

[dim otter]

that sounds kinda like lancer

[calm salmon]

I watched uh

what did I watch this season

Frienen: At Journey's End

[fading vale]

bro

[calm salmon]

Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2

Goblin Slayer

and uh

[fading vale]

Frieren

is incredible

[calm salmon]

Undead Unlock

Frieren makes me cry

like unironically

[fading vale]

it's sooooo good

[calm salmon]

this shit is both feelsgreat and feelsbad

[fading vale]

would say it's top anime this season

[calm salmon]

JJK

if it weren't competing with JJK Season 2

I'd give it to Frieren

but its JJKS2 then Frieren

[fading vale]

yeah JJK is good of course but I also kind of get frustrated by it at times

[calm salmon]

BALL BLASTING ACTION

[fading vale]

like, this season feels rather drawn out and Itadori is a bitch

[calm salmon]

BLUE BALL CLIFFHANGER

rinse and repeat for 23 episodes

[fading vale]

lol

I made the mistake of watching Kingdoms of Ruin

first 2 episodes I was like, oh wow this seems like it might be really good

absolute trash

[coarse birch]

I should watch anime one day

I feel out of the loop

[calm salmon]

Oh yeah

the reason why I'm using knife on veteran

Gaunt's Ghosts

[fading vale]

there's some genuinely good stuff to watch

[calm salmon]

I'm just missing a hood and cloak outfit for veteran

Gaunt's Ghosts outfits when Fatshark

come the fuck on

TANITH FIRST AND ONLY!

[fading vale]

you don't have to watch so much anime you become a trashlord like me, can just watch the actual good stuff

[calm salmon]

yeah that's what I do

The most degen shit I watch is Goblin Slayer

its my one and only guilty pleasure

shits super fucking ass

[fading vale]

Goblin Slayer is top tier though

[calm salmon]

but I really like it

so meh

[calm salmon]

I just uh

I guess my main complaint is the actual animation

its. . . not good.

Even if the story/character arcs are.

[fading vale]

I don't really have much issue with the animation

seems good enough to me

you can't compare shit to JJK

[calm salmon]

Or OPM Season 1

or Mob Psycho

I know I know

but I still do

[fading vale]

yeah all those just ball the fuck out

[mystic ether]

What yall like to run with with crusher? Mostly interested in shroudfield setups with it but it doesn't feel bad at all running piety and melee-centered stuff.

[calm salmon]

I run uh

blazing piety

cause crusher has REALLY funny finesse damage

[mystic ether]

It's nasty

I'm seeing it

[calm salmon]

and it doesn't really need help with damage or attack speed: Martyrdom/Momentum respectively

[steel sedge]

these public games are starting to annoy me

[wheat sandal]

The most degen anime I watch also happens to be my favorite but it makes me extremely uncomfortable at times.

Made in Abyss, my beloved.

[twilit sonnet]

I thought crusher had like, negligible damage but enough stagger to move a building

[steel sedge]

why in the world is some guy with a lvl 15 psyker trying to defeat the karnak twins on damnation

[fading vale]

I would not call Made in Abyss degen

[calm salmon]

God I wish I could rename my veteran :(

[mystic ether]

Can't stand that show.

[calm salmon]

Being PuriPuriBetaMale has gotten me some recognition

[wheat sandal]

It most certainly has some sus shit.

[calm salmon]

from around the discord

[twilit sonnet]

Made in abyss is absolutely degen, it's still good though

[calm salmon]

but I wanna be Rawne

[wheat sandal]

Especially the latest chapter.

[calm salmon]

or Mad Larkin

[fading vale]

Made in Abyss is very very good and yeah I suppose it has some sus stuff, but it doesn't hold back. Not much stands up to the quality of it imo

[mystic ether]

It has a cool concept but it plays out and reads like those rape roster doujins people come up with.

Goblin slayer specifically.

[calm salmon]

uh

its had like

4 scenes of that

I guess that's 4 scenes too many

[wheat sandal]

Yeah. It kinda blows almost every other anime out of the water in terms of worldbuilding.

[calm salmon]

But you know, its a very small part of the actual anime is my point

[fading vale]

I mean that's only like the first episode and a couple scenes

[mystic ether]

Fair enough, I just clocked out from it by like episode 5 or so.

[fading vale]

it's not like that at all later on

[mystic ether]

If there's more to it cool, thank fuck.

[fading vale]

it just sets it up to be gruesome

[calm salmon]

Yeah, surprisingly, Goblin Slayer is setting itself up as a redemption story and learning how to grow beyond PTSD and finding your place in the world.

Despite its uh

[twilit sonnet]

Ngl watching the latest arc of bleach with almost zero context from watching previous seasons goes kinds hard.

[calm salmon]

reputation

[wheat sandal]

So, it's Berserk but not as good.

[calm salmon]

So its touching on some incredibly heavy subjects and doing it really well(IMO)

[warm rapids]

thisgame is too buggy

[mystic ether]

Like yeah sure, it's grimdark and all that. My issue with was just how hella obsessed it was with just, running those kinds of scenes. Aside from just the abject horror, there wasn't much else it had to offer for me as a piece when I first ran into it.

[warm rapids]

enemies spawning on top of you with preloaded attack animations

like the fuck

[mystic ether]

But if it's absolutely not like that further on, I'll definitely give another go.

[fading vale]

yeah the audio and spawns and animations are a bit whack at the moment

[wheat sandal]

We will never get a good adaptation of my favorite manga.

[twilit sonnet]

I haven't encouraged a single of these fabled "silent poxbursters" yet

[calm salmon]

Hey

[fading vale]

it wasn't this bad pre patch 13

[calm salmon]

give fatshark credit

specials ALWAYS make noise when in your sound bubble now

I noticed that the other day

the problem is that you have milliseconds to respond

not seconds

So if you don't insta turn on that burster you just eat 150 damage for no reason

[wheat sandal]

And one of my other favorite anime will never be picked back up. Plus, its manga rarely gets new chapters.

[calm salmon]

but yeah, specials no longer having a consistent spawn/chase audio loop is really annoying

[ornate bone]

Goblin Slayer trying to separate itself from the GOBLIN SEX AND NAKED GIRLS vibe of the subgenre that is composed solely by it

[craggy maple]

poxburster that spawn literally next to you. Q_Q

[wheat sandal]

Houseki no Kuni, my beloved.

[fading vale]

#zealot-class message

[mystic ether]

That's basically my bare minimum. Aside from hard limits for me with like, rampant child abuse (as in, this is just s routine thing within the story with zero sensitivity/direction with it), if you're about to express heinous shit with in your piece (ignoring corporate interests for profitability points), you can do it tactfully.

As much as I really do like anime and all that as a medium, it plays around with that shit way way too much for gags.

[wheat sandal]

I stand by 3D animation being the future ever since watching Houseki no Kuni. It has such a good adaptation but it's unrealistic to set it as the precedent, honestly.

I still think 2D is superior.

Don't get me wrong.

However, it's not impossible to nail 3D animation.

[fading vale]

chainsaw man had some really bad 3D and some decent 3D

[mystic ether]

It'd be nice if there wasn't a profit motive to separate/ o outright seeking to abandon preceeding animations methods.

CG lowkey always been cool, just for animes I've notice more recently, it's kind if whatever for now for now.

[wheat sandal]

JJK has some good 3D.

[twilit sonnet]

The 3d on attack on titan is pretty good

[mystic ether]

And CSM is great

[fading vale]

yeah they clearly put the budget into the more important moments

[mystic ether]

Straight up a very solid piece. Author's characterization skills are hella inspiring l

[wheat sandal]

It's still a much better read.

[mystic ether]

CSM got so much style too in the anime. Like damn

[fading vale]

I do wish some anime would just kind of drop the weird tropes, but alas, I've kind of come to ignore them now

[wheat sandal]

A lot of important details were left out in the first season and you're missing out on some batshit paneling.

[mystic ether]

The choreography and framing for some of these fights scenes in incredible despite how short they can be.

If anything, that timing and framing of fight is some of the best characterization through conflict I've seen in a minute.

[buoyant pecan]

[mystic ether]

Favorite ones so far are still the ones with Denji and Powrr against the drunkard guy.

Don't even know much else about him yet from reading the manga with where I'm at but they their point very very well.

[wheat sandal]

I like seeing panels made of viscera and gore and it's not something you can really achieve in anime.

[frank night]

time 2 go to sleep

snooz

[fading vale]

I'ma be honest I kinda felt like the latest Sukuna JJK episode was a bit over the top and too much visually

[vocal pulsar]

Gn miriitub

[wheat sandal]

I like how over-the-top some of JJK's animation is.

[fading vale]

I do too but like

it never stopped

[wheat sandal]

Good night.

[mystic ether]

Sometimes the vision isn't there yet yeah. Always nice to see when some figure it out.

[fading vale]

and was just visually kind of overwhelming and a bit uh idk kinda animation vomit

[mystic ether]

Love me a good gore monster reveal.

[wheat sandal]

The paneling for CSM is really only topped by Houseki no Kuni.

[mystic ether]

What's it about?

[wheat sandal]

In my opinion.

[mystic ether]

Been meaning to go through some great slice of life pieces so I'll add it to my list other stuff to mull over if you can sell it to me lol

[wheat sandal]

Houseki no Kuni is... hard to describe. I'd just suggest giving it a read. Hell, even a watch. Think Steven Universe but dark.

Very dark.

[mystic ether]

Mhm.

[wheat sandal]

Interesting negative character development.

[fading vale]

I assume you have seen k-on

[wheat sandal]

K-On is a classic.

[fading vale]

it's like, generally one of the top slice of life animes

[mystic ether]

I'll see about that. I haven't even touched Steven universe in years since I just lost patience with messaging.

Don't really need my media to do that kind of thing for me, but deviating from certain washed up themeing is what I'm looking for.

[wheat sandal]

Have you watched Bocchi?

[fading vale]

I have not

[wheat sandal]

One of my favorite comedy / slice of life anime.

[mystic ether]

Maintaining my stance that bismuth had the right idea getting her fasc-murder rock torpedo. Lmao

[wheat sandal]

It's K-On but better, honestly.

[fading vale]

that's a bold claim

[wheat sandal]

I stand by it.

[mystic ether]

Which one is k-on?

Been out of it for a while with viewership

[fading vale]

about a group of girls that like, start a band kind of

[mystic ether]

That sounds fun.

[wheat sandal]

Imagine K-On meets Nichijou.

It's a personal favorite of mine.

[fading vale]

oh uh what's the one I really want to recommend

Ya Boy Kongming

[wheat sandal]

Ya Boy Kongming is good.

[mystic ether]

Is itnthe one with um. The two girls? Drummer and I think sax or something. Some white girl and what I'm sure so guessing ambiguous anime brown girl?

Had a cool premise from a summary I can't remember reading years ago

[wheat sandal]

Different messaging, by the way. No power of friendship stuff. Not a fan of that trope, myself.

[fleet zealot]

i like anime that punches me in the gut and makes me feel depressed and it's only bittersweet at the end

[fading vale]

Your lie in April

[fleet zealot]

that's on my to watch list

i'm just a lazy fuck and don't care much for anime

[fading vale]

and Clannad

[mystic ether]

It's less the power of friendship and more of the "let's negotiate with the genociders, they can be reformed" type shit.

Literally a gaggle of planet-killing imperial rock people with a caste system sustained for eons. You want to talk-no-jutsu? As in, that's the only thing that's acceptable? ¿Que?

[wheat sandal]

Oh, I won't spoil anything but it most certainly doesn't go that route.

[fleet zealot]

outside of that, yuri and jojo part 4 and newer do it for me

[mystic ether]

That's fair was my biggest gripe multiple times.

[fleet zealot]

are we talking SU?

[wheat sandal]

It has some of the most... interesting character development I've ever had the joy of reading.

I will just say, I love a good negative character arc.

[mystic ether]

I was yeah. Like from what I've watched up till like, whatever the fuck point in s2 and then on and off out of context episode drops from later seasons.

[fleet zealot]

part of the issue is that RS was highly restricted by CN requirements and rules, so it ends up this weird mix messaging mess

I do love lesbians tho

lets go lesbians

[wheat sandal]

Woo0ooooo!

[fleet zealot]

like, spoilers ahead for a children's cartoon

[mystic ether]

Yeah. Same kind of thing with avatar and the studio behind it and um voltron I think.

[fleet zealot]

the gem experiments and the cluster would literally be equal to dead space body horror for the gems

[wheat sandal]

Khorra too. Khorra pulled too many punches.

[fleet zealot]

and the corruption, it's MEGA fucked if you think of it

[mystic ether]

Lots and lots of forced inconsistencies imo. Basing that off some con panel where one of the writers lowley was talking about it directly but not in full detail.

[fading vale]

as much as I don't want to say it out loud, lesbian anime is just like.... more straightforward and wholesome and less beating around the bush for 20 episodes

[fleet zealot]

gravity falls I remember

[wheat sandal]

Disappointingly.

[mystic ether]

Dude. I...I really wanted to see ANYTHING in season 2 addressing the water tribe civil war. Like fuck me man that had so much fucking potential.

[fleet zealot]

and then bandai namco says it's up to interpretation

[mystic ether]

It just got completely ignored halfway through

[fleet zealot]

LMAO i can't believe they did that

[mystic ether]

Like dropped it dropped it.

[fleet zealot]

like, WfM clearly used stuff like sister in law and marriage and like, it makes bandai namco look like an entire circus

[fading vale]

I need a new emotional happy/sad one to watch

[fleet zealot]

I got nothing you probably haven't seen already

helsing ultimate and CSM (tho csm you have to read the manga until they finish the anime)

oh and the next arc is gonna be a movie which is both good and bad

[wheat sandal]

I thought they blatantly stated that they were lesbian recently.

[fading vale]

yeah stuff like CSM I won't read, will just wait

[wheat sandal]

CSM is genuinely a much better read than watch.

[placid fiber]

So I took my level 12 Vet out for a spin.... I think it went well.

[fleet zealot]

https://screenrant.com/gundam-witch-mercury-lgbtq-bandai-controversial-apology/#:~:text=As reported by Anime News,was “up to interpretation”.

idk if they corrected their statement after this

[fading vale]

this was so fucking stupid

[mystic ether]

Season 1 of Korra was great but was flat for a good portion. There could've been a lot of world building for republic city. Could've gone into the connect between the organized crime, cops, and upper class. Segwayed into more about why so many people turn to shit like little arena thing with much more nuance, all of it.

Did what it could be even then it was doomed from the start since it wasn't meant to go further than season 1. Nickelodeon moment.

What that also when kid feet creep Snyder was heading shit?

[wheat sandal]

Heard something about them rolling back the rollback a few days ago, to the dismay of the Gamers (tm).

[fading vale]

Korra was such an unlikable character, I hate Korra

[warm trellis]

why even bend to the gamers

fuck the gamers

[fleet zealot]

korra was ehh

[mystic ether]

Hard disagree but you can have yours.

[fleet zealot]

i think they could've done a lot more but nothing made me hate her

just wasted potential

[fading vale]

that's pretty much how I felt

It was just exhausting watching it for me

[fleet zealot]

i think a bad character is like, MHA, the grape hero kid, who is basically the classic perv stereotype

[buoyant pecan]

I was hype when Aang showed himself to Korra

I thought oh shit finally, the big journey and character growth is comingg

[fleet zealot]

until he kinda goes Bi for Deku??? idk I feel MHA is queer baiting me all the time when I see the newest talk about the manga

[fading vale]

granted I had also just binged all of avatar like, 1 month prior to Korra, and they aren't even close to the same tier

[mystic ether]

I just kind of fell off from mha. No other real reason but eh.

[buoyant pecan]

MHA lost me after season 4

[fleet zealot]

MHA I think grew way too quickly

aand outpaced itself

I gave up too and now only kinda fade back and forth

[buoyant pecan]

I was like 'Damn.' Another character that is way cooler than Deku and I'm supposed to be cheering this lame ass?

[fading vale]

any of yall see zom 100 today? they dropped the last 3 episodes

[fleet zealot]

I think deku's solo arc was fucking great and that's all I can say

[buoyant pecan]

I started to fall out of love with the show when Deku was getting dick rode by the whole cast for

learning how to kick

Meanwhile Bakugo had just learned how to make an armor piercing shot

[mystic ether]

My biggest problem with Korra as a character mostly just came back to, "this project, for everything it has been able to get across, was not supposed to continue passed a certain point. Everything after season 1 is probably going to be a forced slog of fluid character development"

It really doesn't help that there wasn't supposed to be a plan

[placid fiber]

I thought it was good, as well

[fleet zealot]

bakugo i think is a chracter who was way too quickly redeemed

[fading vale]

I also hated all the villains except for that 1 bald guy

[fleet zealot]

he legit told deku to ||off himself|| in the first few episodes as kids

[buoyant pecan]

It's relatable

[fleet zealot]

but yea

[buoyant pecan]

Deku was a big wimpy coward the entire time growing up and then out of nowhere he grows a pair to try and save Bakugo

[wheat sandal]

I was waiting until the last episodes were dropped to watch it. Definitely want to.

[fleet zealot]

why the fuck did they do this to objectively the worst character (Iirc this might be a japanese-> english mis translation)

[mystic ether]

Season 3 and 4 were fine for me. I just think that there was hamfisting for the red lotus being fleshed out and then, idk, I hate kuvira but she wasn't going to get any of the ozai context, which, oh well.

[fading vale]

they are all out now

[fleet zealot]

spoilers

[buoyant pecan]

Did they ever revisit

[fleet zealot]

for MHA

[buoyant pecan]

The traitor among the school teachers?

[mystic ether]

A lot of 4 was more focused on what was going on in the street level with people living under that shit

[buoyant pecan]

[fleet zealot]

god hell if I know

there is so much going on I lsoe track

[buoyant pecan]

Like they established that shit

Season 1? Season 2?

And never went back to it

[fleet zealot]

ohh one of the traitors was a student

||Yuga||

[wheat sandal]

Anybody watch Heavenly Delusions?

[mystic ether]

It works for him considering. Dude spent the majority of his childhood and early teens just, doing everything to get the green light to be part of the compulsory social club of super-powered cops.

He wouldn't just up and drop the blind people pleasing.

...Definitely should've faded bakugo at least once.

[fleet zealot]

I do like, deku's arc when he gets edgy cause it's like

[buoyant pecan]

It'd make more sense if Deku got beat up because he kept you know...
Trying to do heroics even when he didn't have powers.

[fleet zealot]

not actually edgy

[mystic ether]

Like a good clean clap upside the head. Maybe go too much and really fuck him up and then take what he's known through bakugo to be more precise with his development.

[fleet zealot]

it's mental illness, illogical, but good intentions

[exotic portal]

https://youtu.be/USqqWelU208?si=j0gPWb7EqeG4l__L

lmfao

[mystic ether]

Thinking about the one fight where deku and bakugo are pretty much about clash again before having that 2v1 with all might. Personally would've been more interesting if he stopped the fight because deku took a leaf from bakugo and mixed up his mix up during the head on and actually would've put him on the bench/cripple him.

Intervention leading into the 2v1 another time or something idk. Not my piece, not my intent, and I don't even write and do other art like that anymore so /shrug

Excellent touch by the author to just build up the rest of the world's status quo through vigilantes and uh. The fucking icy hot boy with the burn on his face.

[half python]

didnt one of them literally have a wedding ring edited in just to make it MORE obvious

[tawny tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-nijika-gif-16097995400004409680

[mystic ether]

How long is JJk currently for the anime and manga? Haven't had time but I've seen Mayne like three episodes and it looks promising.

Wanna see how the school of fadecraft and rizzery play out.

I only see stuff about whoever the white hair dude is.

Internet algo shit

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-gif-18250654545090010651

[sharp zodiac]

Ho ho ho

More like

Joe Joe Joe

[mystic ether]

I fuck with jojos

Because I hated dio that much. Just want to see his everything catch the work.

Hate that boy

I dream of a better thinking okuyasu. Loved that shit

[sharp zodiac]

A better thinking oku would break the limits on his stand

Being his stupidity

[exotic portal]

add a mission success rate?

[sharp zodiac]

I'd make it a personal thing because if it's a public thing I think we'll know where that'll head down on the road

[mystic ether]

old revolver likes maniac and idk unyielding dmg?

This one will get replaced but I just need something that'll hold decently to farm heresy and maybe some damnation

[neat badge]

a chainsword that doesnt shred

love it

[vale carbon]

change no respite to man stopper and idk carapace to flak?

[strange kestrel]

No swap dmg vs groaners

[vale carbon]

🤔

[zealous basin]

what in the frick

is this

[vale carbon]

isn't carapace damage on shotguns poopoo

[strange kestrel]

Dmg against groaners is even worse

[zealous basin]

why are u taking no respite off ur shotgun

[vale carbon]

flak or maniacs then?

[strange kestrel]

Get flechette on that shotgun

Swap no respite for flechette

[vale carbon]

if i had it

[zealous basin]

the fuck

[vale carbon]

i may

[strange kestrel]

Wait until u get it

[vale carbon]

i can switch it out later my guy

you can change a blessing that has been changed as many times as needed

[strange kestrel]

Oh yeah

I know i know

As long as the final blessings are scattershot+flechette do what you want

[vale carbon]

use flak or maniac then

[fiery ingot]

whats the difference between both thammers and what are their efficiency outside of bossing?

[strange kestrel]

Flak

[vale carbon]

a friend is suggesting switching both perks and not bothering with blessings

[fiery ingot]

i liked crusher a lot, but its damage output is too low to be even worth running imo. so im looking for an alternative similar weapon

[vale carbon]

that a decent idea?

[strange kestrel]

No

You have the potential to have a scattershot/flechette combo

No respite is good but flechette is better for what the kantraels job is

[coarse birch]

Crucis has slightly better single target damage and ironhelm special can cleave through chaff till hitting elite

[vale carbon]

so groaners to flak then

[strange kestrel]

Yes

And no respite to flechette

[coarse birch]

Also diff moveset

[native nebula]

Is t hammer a good idea against the twins?

[coarse birch]

I havent used it vs twins should be fine in theory so long as your comfy with jt

[native nebula]

I got a roided out one but done see anyone recommending using it

[coarse birch]

Id bring a gun for ragers tho

[native nebula]

Don't*

[coarse birch]

P sure lazorr used it

[indigo quartz]

anyone have a build that makes good use of the new chaxe

having issue running momentum with it

[coarse birch]

I like momentum with it

What blessings perks

[indigo quartz]

thrust 3/headtaker 4

25% flak/carapacec

[coarse birch]

Ik it works well with piety too

[strange kestrel]

Thunderous thrust i enjoy on chaxe

[strange kestrel]

Thats good too

[gusty lynx]

in a vacuum yes, crusis thammer is good against the twins, ironside less so, but both get fucked by the amount of adds in the arena, thats why something like the chain axe is better as a whole. Still good boss dmg, but can handle the adds

[coarse birch]

Yeah youd need to be comfy dueling crushers with jt

[strange kestrel]

Oh shit

I just realized this guy asked for a build

Im too high for this

[gusty lynx]

haha

[strange kestrel]

I run martyrdom second wind on it

It goes hard asf

[gusty lynx]

classic zealot moment

[strange kestrel]

I got the most mileage out of martyrdom second wind with chain axe

[wheat nymph]

Nah, instead of bringing a gun I'll just bring another eviscerator

[scenic moth]

Any suggestions for a good carapace type killing ranged weapon besides the

bolter

[strange kestrel]

Revolver

Is the best gun to deal with carapace

[scenic moth]

k Thx

[wheat nymph]

All headshots can pretty much kill a crusher on lvl 5

[strange kestrel]

Make sure u get hand cannon on it

The blessing

[scenic moth]

Oh yeah, just wanted a name. I'll find specs on a build list

thx

[strange kestrel]

Alr

[wheat nymph]

I will run chain sword/ revolver until i die

[scenic moth]

or until the nerfing patch, whichever comes first

I'm doing heavy sword/revolver(?)

[opaque island]

can someone help me understand why this THAMMER wont 1 shot crushers in the face?

[north sedge]

because crushers aren't a one shot without chastise/shroud

[opaque island]

I use chastise

okay yea

when i use chastise they do die

[north sedge]

unless you're getting buffs from teammates

[wheat nymph]

More faith in the emperor might help

[gusty lynx]

You'd need some kind of external buff if you wanted to OHK a crusher, though I think in theory you could do it from with out one with max thrust, 25% carapace, and 80%pen and 80%dmg.

[coarse birch]

If only

[gusty lynx]

Duelwield chainswords when?

[north sedge]

nope

[gusty lynx]

Crazy.

[north sedge]

maybe like, max marty stacks or something thrown in

[wheat nymph]

The crusher watching me dual wield thunder hammers
(He has 20 seconds left to live)

[gusty lynx]

You'd think FS would reward such a ludicrously difficult to obtain roll by letting it hit that one very specific breakpoint. But no.

[ornate bone]

What should I pair with a Thunder Hammer? A Bolter? OK 👍

[wheat nymph]

Ehhhh probably not

Pull out time and hit time is too long

[opaque island]

Thammer is already doing what you want the bolter to do

id reccomend flamer

[ornate bone]

OK then real advice on what to pair with it?

[north sedge]

it one shot crushers before their hp got buffed

[gusty lynx]

Add clear for sure, braced auto or nonslug shotgun would be best.

[ornate bone]

God dammit you're kidding me

[drifting wolf]

flamer

[ornate bone]

Flamer and Thunder Hammer are a good combo?

[wheat nymph]

Yeah

[ornate bone]

God dammit.

[north sedge]

revolver, agri brauto, kant shotgun, lawbringer

either colomnus

[drifting wolf]

maybe columnus iag, not sure about that one

[wheat nymph]

Horde clearing and single target properties for both

[north sedge]

flamer is good in certain modes

[ornate bone]

I wanted to do Psy Fire build instead but guess Ima do this.

[gusty lynx]

Which was literally the whole point of the weapon type. Its no wonder I rarely see thammers on higher difs, they just arent worth it anymore.

[north sedge]

no they're geared for bosses

[wheat nymph]

I'll always stick with the chain swords, thammers can be good but they lack in certain areas

[north sedge]

and hammers a very strong weapon

[olive raven]

Using crusher 1 tap as a measurement is also fuckin stupid

[ornate bone]

I might stick to my tried and true Heavy Chainsword and Stubber but I want to feel iconic sometimes you know?

[sharp zodiac]

But in terms of other tools other weapons do better

[left iron]

Max HT stacks, +cara, duellist lets my mediocre thammer oneshot on a headshot as long as everything is up

[gusty lynx]

Exactly. Just because something is strong, doesnt mean its good.

[ornate bone]

Is Boltor and Chainsword good?

[wheat nymph]

Ye that's good

[north sedge]

what

"this weapon is strong, but also is bad, sadly"

[ornate bone]

I want Iconic Combos as much as good combos.

[wheat nymph]

Strong doesn't mean good in every scenario

[north sedge]

that's not what the original sentence said though, heh

[gusty lynx]

This is exactly what I meant though.

[olive raven]

💀

[gusty lynx]

Yes, the Thammer is technically the best weapon for bossing, but in any other situation I'd rather have something else, and considering that boss encounters are a rather small portion of gameplay, I'd rather have something better at the rest of the gameplay loop.

[north sedge]

true, i always forget about duelist when testing shit

[wheat nymph]

Thammers are for bosses/ fun

[north sedge]

hammer does plenty fine beyond bosses

[olive raven]

Hammer is a solid 8/10, it’s good. Idk how people say it ain’t good in all scenarios

[wheat nymph]

I love absolutely flooring a crusher with one hit

[clear knot]

Doing gods work dough.

[sharp zodiac]

I'd just use anything else imo unless I want to have fun maybe that's just the hsword rot consuming me

[olive raven]

Like if you think hammers aren’t good in most scenarios, you genuinely have had a lobotomy

[ornate bone]

Honestly I'm more interested in Flamer than Thunder Hammer so hearing they're a good Combo just leaves me wanting a Flamer Oriented build and Thammer to take meatier targets that cost too much fire for one person.

[olive raven]

Having stagger second only to the crusher is absurdly good 💀

[left iron]

I cant get my test thammer to oneshot because it has a locked in T3 cara madge

[ornate bone]

By fire I mean holding the fire button not flames.

[clear knot]

Hammer is. A very great all arounder with a spec into bossing

[olive raven]

Yea

It may kill a horde the fastest

But that horde won’t be going anywhere

It’s a great CC oriented weapon that just so happens to be able to shit out single target damage

[north sedge]

i chalked up one shots earlier playing hammer to group buffs, was the first time i had played hammer live since the hp buffs for crusher

[wheat nymph]

I think the chainsword can clear hordes faster than the hammer but its single target is shitter than the hammer

[left iron]

Honestly, i wouldnt swap +elites or flak into cara just because i MIGHT oneshot with the perfect conditions

[sharp zodiac]

I prefer the ironhelm, sure it won't be doing as much as crucis but the cleave on the charged heavy swing is pretty nice and allows me to hit my target easier

[north sedge]

maybe is good enough for me!

[gusty lynx]

See, this is why I like the build crafting in this game, everything is good but there are big enough differences to get into arguments over the internet that effectively just end in "yeah fine, its good."

[sharp zodiac]

Did I just see a frog

[wheat nymph]

In all fairness all weapons are good in their own way
Everyone has their own build and play style

[gusty lynx]

Exactly. Just enough difference to spark discourse.

[olive raven]

A heavy sword will horde clear faster, that doesn’t mean a hammer isn’t good

Different weapons fulfill different roles.

[wheat nymph]

I ain't saying its bad

It just clears hordes faster

[opaque island]

if you arent using the optimal weapon, you're sabotaging your team and im reporting and kicking you /s

[half python]

Except pre-rework Crusher

That shit sucked lmao

[wheat nymph]

Single target kills feel more satisfying with the hammer

Horde clears feel more satisfying with the Chain sword

Both weapons are amazing

[gusty lynx]

I need to kill this mindset in my own head. Cept its for myself; dont give a fuck what my teamates are using, but godforbid I try using a new weapon and things go South

[opaque island]

I think the next weapon I wanna get a good roll on is Evisc, though i dont know if i want the classic or the new variant

[wheat nymph]

I personally prefer the classic but the heavy is good as well

[zealous basin]

sir they are both heavy

[opaque island]

yea

[zealous basin]

old variant superiority

[wheat nymph]

Fr

[zealous basin]

new variant is great if you're a stinky weirdo and nobody likes you

otherwise stick with old

[opaque island]

speaking of, is this good?

[sharp zodiac]

Kinda

[zealous basin]

not really

[opaque island]

the perks are trash

dunno about the blessing

[zealous basin]

wrath is mid

shred is ||just worse than rampage|| cope

[wheat nymph]

Block efficiency is a weird choice

[sharp zodiac]

SS is wrath but got laid

[wheat nymph]

I respect it tho

[zealous basin]

i dont think it was a choice

nor should u respect it

[opaque island]

it was me trying to salvage a bricked roll when i had no resources

[wheat nymph]

Alr yeah fine the perks are shit

apart from that its good

[opaque island]

hey i didnt even know where i picked this up

this could be good

[zealous basin]

i mean

the perks are garbage and the blessings are mediocre

its not good lol

i would not consider running an evi without rampage

[opaque island]

I hate you hadron

[zealous basin]

unlucky

one day they'll make rev it up worth using

[opaque island]

so i want Savage Sweep and Rampage, what am i looking for in perks? im assuming mobility is the dump stat

[zealous basin]

correct on mobility

u still want mob over... 51?52? or something to have 4 dodges

[strange kestrel]

Perks are flak maniac/cara/unyielding

It benefits from all 4

[zealous basin]

flak/unyielding supremacy

dont care for cara

[strange kestrel]

I mean you can just swap block efficiency and rev it up for savage sweep and its done

Its useable

Not the best but will get the job done

[zealous basin]

no rampage is trolling

[strange kestrel]

No not rrally

Really

[zealous basin]

wha

[strange kestrel]

SS is a must on mk2 evis

[zealous basin]

okay and

[strange kestrel]

Rampage is a must on mk15

[zealous basin]

rampage is a must on both

[olive raven]

Rampage is a must on both 💀

[strange kestrel]

Savage sweep is priority on old eviscerator

[zealous basin]

why would you ever take an evi without rampage

[olive raven]

No it isn’t

[zealous basin]

?

[olive raven]

The primary blessing for eviserators is rampage

[strange kestrel]

Its just less dmg

[zealous basin]

i

[strange kestrel]

He can roll with an eviscerator that doesnt have rampage

[olive raven]

The 2nd blessing is Savage Sweep, Shred, Momentum (New one)

[strange kestrel]

Savage sweep on new evis is useless

[zealous basin]

okay and the one you just told him to reroll would not have rampage on it with your instructions

[opaque island]

im pogged out, this is it

i can work with this

[zealous basin]

????

nice

[strange kestrel]

Thats good

[olive raven]

This is fucking beautiful

[zealous basin]

3 dodges is rough

but

aside from that very very nice

[strange kestrel]

2/4

[olive raven]

Congrats on your god roll tbh

[strange kestrel]

Just swap stamina and bloodmetter

[opaque island]

hm Unyielding or Maniac, cause i hate ragers with a passion

[strange kestrel]

Maniacs id say

[unique cairn]

Stamina to Flak or Maniac on this

[olive raven]

Perks should be Flakiac

[zealous basin]

i stan flak/unyielding

dnc

[olive raven]

Maniac, wrath to headtaker

[zealous basin]

(i shoot maniacs in the head with my revolver)

[olive raven]

You won’t hit BP with flak on a heavy sword, maniac will hit rager and mutie

[zealous basin]

oh i was still talking about evi

to josh

[unique cairn]

Ty. Will prolly not use this much but nice to get a decent one

[olive raven]

Tbh that’s a genuine god roll

Congrats

[strange kestrel]

Yea

[unique cairn]

It came from Brunt at 12am on Xmas lol

[strange kestrel]

That was your christmas gift

[unique cairn]

Brunt and Hadron eased my suffering if only for today 🥲

[opaque island]

While im here, this is my current hammer

[exotic portal]

hate message at the end of game

[opaque island]

this is the hammer i wanna replace it with

[strange kestrel]

Woah why

[opaque island]

im thinking shock and awe needs to go

[strange kestrel]

Your current one is better 100%

[opaque island]

the minor stat upgrade tho

[olive raven]

Well both ain’t great but the first is better 💀

[opaque island]

whats not great about it?

[strange kestrel]

The blessings

Are ass

[opaque island]

the first one i mean

[strange kestrel]

And 1 dead perk

[olive raven]

Thrust + Headtaker + Unyielding are what you need on a hammer

[upper tiger]

Bingo

[olive raven]

Or slaughterer

[strange kestrel]

He has unyielding

[blissful ice]

When farming blessings is there a bonus to consecrating 4 times or should you just do two?

[strange kestrel]

Only thing would be thunderous for headtaker but its still fine

[olive raven]

The perk is quite literally last priority

[unique cairn]

Just do 2 aka to Blue

[strange kestrel]

You still get some mileage out of thunderous

[olive raven]

Blessings 99% of the time take priority over perks

As a rule of thumb

[unique cairn]

Make sure to check Melk everyday for tier 4 blessings too

[strange kestrel]

Fatshark and their fomo

[blissful ice]

Thanks!

[opaque island]

well time to take this evisc for a test run and mow the lawn

thank you for the advice yall

always a big help yee are

[ornate bone]

You're welcome

[blissful sinew]

keep or bin?

[fiery ingot]

what are the best perks for crusher?

flakiac?

or is there any other option worth taking?

[dense field]

Keep it until you find a better one. Wrath -> Rampage, Melee -> Flak

[north sedge]

That works, elites is fine too

[median zenith]

Hmm, which keystone are people running with heavy sword? Been running piety for the last 2 weeks or so and already having great success. Was wondering if anyone prefers either of the other 2 keystones?

[sharp zodiac]

I like to run momentum and Martyr

[median zenith]

which blitz do you run with either?

[gentle trout]

Any good

[sharp zodiac]

Chastise

You could go relic if you want to play it safer or aren't confident in how to use chastise

[median zenith]

oh, i meant grenade

[sharp zodiac]

Oh

Stunstorm or the middle one

[north sedge]

Bad perks and blessings, sadly

[left iron]

[sharp zodiac]

They don't like grabbing

They only like stabbing

[cerulean pike]

probably not good at it too

[sharp zodiac]

Shouldve swapped one of them out for a guy named Kevin

[olive raven]

Momentum

[sharp zodiac]

He'd actually collect them

[cerulean pike]

shut up luna you're gettin stabbed

[olive raven]

Immo/Benediction/Chastise/Momentum is my favorite heavy sword build @median zenith

[fiery ingot]

what should i change here then

unyielding to elite?

[olive raven]

Eh I’d change carapace personally to flak or maniac

But I’d check its performance on carapace first

[sharp zodiac]

So uncivilized

[fiery ingot]

so should i use this weapon for dealing with bosses then? or should i look for a ranged option for bossing?

[tropic pelican]

I'd go unyielding to flak

[ripe quest]

Crusher is ok for bosses, best you're gonna get for a ranged weapon is Lawby Shotgun, Revolver, Boltgun, and anything with a DoT for chip damage for ranged. Doesn't matter too much since any decent ranged weapon will do considerable damage to a boss anyway.

[cerulean pike]

your're never civilized

[ripe quest]

With SC T4 I think you're better off just getting rid of +Carapace.

[sharp zodiac]

I am upmost civil

[fiery ingot]

okie

[ripe quest]

Akari every time I've glimpsed at your messages I've seen and .

[fiery ingot]

lmao tax evasion emoji

[trim kindle]

Carapace helmet hard, but thunder hammer harder! (Somehow removed a mauler's helmet without killing him)

[cerulean pike]

so, normal then

[olive raven]

Knife best weapon cause raet hself dna etarecal

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/εγκεφαλική-βλαβη-egkefaliko-paulluminati-τρελός-gif-19260560

[sharp zodiac]

What

[lusty orbit]

they said what they said. knife best weapon cause raet hself dna etarecal

[acoustic jolt]

Understandable

[olive raven]

Pilf eht redro

[median zenith]

thanks! ill give it a try

[cinder roost]

Did you have a stroke?

[lusty orbit]

no i repeated what that person said

[cinder roost]

Ahh

Oh I see now lol

[autumn vector]

knife is great weapon, if you are ogryn

[lusty orbit]

knife ogryn is the last level of being a knife zealot

[exotic portal]

Fair enough

Start screen shoting every team carry.

[zealous basin]

knife is great weapon if ur very skilled.... gotta see the lines

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-yosemite-sam-cross-the-line-gif-21466257

[calm salmon]

did someone say knife

[sharp zodiac]

Ravern dins skavern

[calm salmon]

Ignore Neroli's performance. They're a fresh 30 and it was their first time in damnation auric.

[patent patrol]

How do I equip weapon cosmetics? can't find the right menu or whatever

I have two bought.

[sharp zodiac]

Go to appearance

It's a button on the bottom right

[dense field]

Open your inventory and look at bottom right

of the screen

[patent patrol]

thanks.

[sharp zodiac]

Beautiful

[exotic portal]

Should'a kept the starter weapon

[patent patrol]

Bro this game has me wondering what the hell my team is doing with this lack of communication

[ornate bone]

I hate communicating

I'll ping the important item once and leave if the guy across the map doesn't immediately move there, despite my full knowledge that the game has a distance limit to show item tags

[patent patrol]

I'm going to assume this is sarcasm lol

Anyway yeah half my team said nothing the whole match. The other person, who did, was overall pretty chill.

[olive raven]

It’s not for me 💀

If I’ve got items, I’ll ping and dip

[patent patrol]

But I asked if I could kill the Daemonhost (for the contract) and the other dude said yes. The other two people just ran up ahead and left me and the other guy so I had to quickly catch up and leave the daemonhost.

smh.

coulda just said no

[ornate bone]

ngl I almost never say anything

[patent patrol]

but in all seriousness why're people always so scared to fight the Daemonhost? It's not hard to beat. Especially when one of your teammates has a nuke on a stick (thunder hammer)

or any of the really strong nades

Imo it's one of the easiest bosses with the right setup. Which, mind you, is not very hard to come by.

Obviously if the team is bad it's one of the hardest but

yeah.

[ornate bone]

Mostly because it's really annoying

[patent patrol]

That's fair, but it's not hard really.

[ornate bone]

Corruption aura, constant knockback, she has a hard target and keeps flailing around

[patent patrol]

Again, not hard with people who know what to do

really annoying with people who don't

[ornate bone]

Well, if you got a thunder hammer and someone that can tank it long enough, sure

[patent patrol]

That and nuke nades do insane damage to it.

even still.

Here's my thunder hammer. 3/4 and nukes bosses all the same lol

[mossy tulip]

The boss by itself isn’t hard it’s just shit goes down around it

[fading hornet]

And there's no incentive to fight them

[patent patrol]

That's fair, but my thing is the lack of communication from half my team. If ya don't wanna do it, typing no takes 2 seconds tops.

it's 2 letters

no need to run up ahead and abandon the other two

Like, I do not think it's hard. At all. But if people don't wanna do it, I'll respect it.

Hell, I won't do it with people who are below level 20 usually unless the other 3 are highly coordinated.

in comparison.

but just running off like that gets really annoying really fast when you say NOTHING in response.

Idk

maybe I'm complaining too much.

Probably.

but.

that's just my piece.

[mossy tulip]

It’s also incredibly difficult to solo

[patent patrol]

Anyway thoughts on my curios? Debating on either swapping out stamina regen for 5% HP or getting gunner res to 20%. Idk. I do like stamina regen with my thunder hammer. Let's me block more.

also yes this is Martyrdom

[celest cave]

20% gunner res more useful than stamina regen.

[ember yew]

a bit late to the party, but do you really need to ask them(teammates)? demonhost dies from 1 hit if you run shroud build, at worse in two, just need to be quick about it

[full nebula]

what are the best blessings for the new eviscerator?

[ember yew]

mk15?

• Rampage/Shred for general use
• Rampage/Momentum for crazy sustain
• Rampage/Savage Sweep for rofl cleave through 3 maulers (its fun)

something like this

There's also Bloodthirsty, with which you can

oneshot crushers nonstop after proccing 100% crit

one after another

[full nebula]

melk has a 372 with wrath 4 and blood letter 3, worth?

3300 tokens tho

[ember yew]

what other 2 passives on it

[keen silo]

what blessings for rashad?

[autumn vector]

One is for sure bromentum

[ember yew]

brutal/headtaker

some use decimator afaik

[keen silo]

gotta get brutal momentum

[patent patrol]

I'm running Martyrdom so

idk if it'd work

[full nebula]

worth?

[patent patrol]

and Ironhelm thunder hammer

[ember yew]

i would skip

[autumn vector]

No

[unborn depot]

You'd have to replace both blessings and it'd still be worse than a decent roll

[full nebula]

to the trash with it

[ember yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--4pjL1mG8M
Random video

you just need stealth and hit it from correct angle

[autumn vector]

Melk point is for t4 blessings, or blessings like flechette that are hard to come by ish, and near or perfect weapons

[patent patrol]

Eh... I'm using the ironhelm, not the other one. Also wdym right angle?

[autumn vector]

ucky

ironhelm

is like 20-30% less damage than thammer probably

[ember yew]

ah, there's a guy that managed to oneshot it

with ironhelm

tho he stacked like

every buff possible

[autumn vector]

5 stacks of headtaker with likely max thrust

[ember yew]

in a combat situation or due to a level design

[autumn vector]

maybe slaughter but

[ember yew]

you need to quickly approach him, since he can SEE stealth

you dont have much time

to hit him in the back

[patent patrol]

I use it for a generalist build. Nuke option still hits like a train though.

[autumn vector]

I think two shoting a dh with chastise momentum hammer is pretty doable

[ember yew]

i think so

im 100% sure

you have time to do 2 charged attacks

probably 3

[autumn vector]

yea you got time for 2 for sure

[ember yew]

should be enough

2 attacks in the back

last one either in the back

or aim at the head if he's facing you

you can install spawner mod and try that

in psykanium

should get a feel on it in like 2-3 minutes

mk iv is definitely more fun to use

[autumn vector]

get loadout config from mod discord

and you can seee exactly what blessings

and what rolls a weapon takes to do what

for example if you want to see what a melk weapon does

without actually buying it

you can set it to exactly that in the test room

give you an idea of how good a or bad a weapon is

[ember yew]

time to check what melk have for today

on 25 he gave me Handcannon IV

good present

[patent patrol]

I completely forgot if the combat axe is the good one or not

lol

[autumn vector]

no

antax and rashad gud

that is

no

[ember yew]

time to buy

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-no-dollar-dollar-missing-dollar-missing-money-no-money-gif-19812570

[autumn vector]

I mean if you really want Infernus sure

[ember yew]

i have 20k to spare

[autumn vector]

oh yea

get thats

monopoly money right now until they tie into crafting more than it is

but one day they will make it do other things right

RIGHT?

Right.

[ember yew]

i actually really want this, but its either replacing both top lines or 1 + replacing barrage with deathspitter

melk trolling

[autumn vector]

is not terrible. Could always flak the increased ranged and barrage to deathspitter

[lean lark]

barrage to deathspitter and reload to maniac

[ember yew]

red gear 10k cost per piece

[autumn vector]

why manic?

maniac*

[lean lark]

because Agri brauto doesn't have good maniac dmg

[jaunty karma]

Hello! I got this game today and I'm wanting to go with a flamer build, but not sure what to take. What do you all suggest? This is what I have so far

[fading vale]

opposite side of the middle

but uh, you are going to want a toughness generator to start with

[ember yew]

nevermind

[fading vale]

something like second wind

[jaunty karma]

toughness generator?

[ember yew]

i just made my own one

[craggy maple]

Aye, that would be a great start, something to replenish your toughness

[autumn vector]

So basically you front loading the trapper, flamer, mutie damage.

shrug

[fading vale]

look at second wind on the right side, or vicious in the left

[ember yew]

i got a green one from the shop

[craggy maple]

Unles you're a demi-god that can avoid all damage, ya you want something to bring your toughness back up quickly

[ember yew]

turned it into this

[autumn vector]

tis way betta

[craggy maple]

neat

[jaunty karma]

ah ok

Yeah I got voice of the Tera for a toughness regenerator

but from immolation grenade idk what to take

[fading vale]

that's not a toughness generator

coherency regen sucks

[sand lance]

Isn't Voice of Terra the "Toughness on Ranged Kill" Talent?

[jaunty karma]

it is yeah

[fading vale]

oh

uh thats also not a great source either

[sand lance]

Yeah, I was wondering. It's Fortitude in Fellowship that's the "+25% Coherency Toughness Regen"

[autumn vector]

its bad

2.5% for ranged kill is meh

[fading vale]

yeah they had both that coherency and I couldn't remember which Terra was

you need a source of melee toughness

[jaunty karma]

I'm going for a flamer build. So I thought it'd be fine because well, it's a flamethrower I'm gonna be killing A LOT with it

[fading vale]

zealot is in melee a lot

[jaunty karma]

ok

[sand lance]

Voice of Terra sounds like it's meant for the Flamer, given the very first Talent for the middle tree is "+Ranged Weapon Damage, with fall off over distance"

[fading vale]

but you can just level up a few more times

[autumn vector]

EWEW might kind of honestly net your a lot more overall

im not a huge fan of it

but its up a lot

[fading vale]

and then can grab a few more things, shouldnt be a huge deal in lower difficulty yet

[fading vale]

keep in mind the density is pretty low on lower difficulty

[sand lance]

True. I was definitely talking about running it on Damnation+ 😅

[jaunty karma]

I honestly haven't struggled that much on lower difficulties

[autumn vector]

thats good

they are easy

[fading vale]

yeah that's good

[jaunty karma]

yeah they feel almost too easy tbh but I'm weary of jumping to whatever the 3rd bar difficulty equates too XD

[sand lance]

Malice, 4th bar is Heresy, 5th is Damnation

[jaunty karma]

ah ok, also what is "Coherency"?

[autumn vector]

I would probably say try to do malice. if you can

[fading vale]

I'd say you probably want to get familiar with something like second wind for the on dodge mechanic sometime soon

[sand lance]

That's when you're close enough to your Teammates that you start Regenerating Toughness

[jaunty karma]

oooh ok

[sand lance]

Lemme find the icon for it

[jaunty karma]

So that's what that icon was for then