zealot-class

[ember yew]

fair enough

[fading vale]

and clarification +cleave does not effect cleave damage

in case what Evan said was confusing

[ember yew]

wasnt it like other day that something like Savage Sweep provide bonus damage to 2nd,3rd,4th targets hit? if not

[fading vale]

no

[ember yew]

its still good to brainlessly cleave through maulers

[fading vale]

nothing buffs cleave damage

except for the normal damage buffs of course, but not directly cleave damage

[keen silo]

gonna have to use some armor shredding range

anyways

cuz this wep sucks against armor

what wep would u guys suggest

[fading vale]

yeah you need to parry headshot

[sharp zodiac]

revolver

[keen silo]

yo luna

[sharp zodiac]

Hey

[fading vale]

run any of the good guns with chastise really

[keen silo]

already am using it with crusher

i like using one wep for one

[fading vale]

and use the chastise ranged buff

[keen silo]

which one?

[ember yew]

if you dont use dash, its revolver only

[fading vale]

do you not know about what chastise does for ranged?

[keen silo]

dash?

[ember yew]

if use dash, can use pretty much anything like said before

[ember yew]

chastise

[keen silo]

ah right

[fading vale]

for 3 seconds it downgrades armor

cara to flak, flak to unarmored

on ranged weapons

[keen silo]

how do i "use" dash
f and f to cancel again?

[keen silo]

yea i did not know

[ember yew]

just use it normally, you can use it against the wall

and then shoot

dont use melee

if you want to shoot

[fading vale]

no just press F

tap S to stop movement

[keen silo]

aight

that's cool

[ember yew]

i just dive right into gunner patrol with Ghost

[fading vale]

it treats perk buffs etc as the original armor type FYI

[ember yew]

lets play call of duty

[blazing fossil]

wtf? Not in the tooltip lol

[fading vale]

hasn't been in the tooltip for over 12 months

and only confirmed once in a single sentence in a patch note a long time ago

[blazing fossil]

lol

[fading vale]

oh hey, they are dropping all the unreleased zom 100 episodes

[ember yew]

when they nerfed

vraks mk3

and others guns and how they work with it

[north sedge]

🤔

[ember yew]

because prenerf in one dash you can erase like 6 Crushers

i used Vraks mk3 before

it was extremely strong

[fading vale]

this was like, february/march timeframe they mentioned it

[keen silo]

i was so happy i got a perfect bolter , im starting to regret getting it

[ember yew]

im reffering to october nerfs i think or november ones

[fading vale]

vraks 3 only recently became strong and it's still quite strong

mostly cause giga finesse and free crit blessings

[ember yew]

Vraks Mk III Headhunter Autogun

● Finesse Modifier (0%, 80% Damage Stat):

○ 150%, 270% to 125%, 225%.

● Armour Modifiers (near, far):

○ Unyielding: 80%, 60% to 60%, 50%.

● Special Action Impact:

○ 5 to 7.5.

● Special Action Impact Armour Modifiers:

○ Unyielding: 100% to 25%.

maybe there was something after/on top of this

i forgot

but welp

[drowsy jackal]

[ember yew]

it was great while it lasted

still strong weapon

[drowsy jackal]

whats the crit string on it

[ember yew]

someone did a summary

of mk3 nerf

its probably higher

when you count all the buffs and procs

since what decreased are base values

so you get shittier scaling now

mk3 was not the only one nerfed

[craggy maple]

ouch

[dense field]

don't mind if i do

[drowsy jackal]

got a link? :o

[ember yew]

i just posted

that mini-message

tldr version

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1188888931509489684/image.png?ex=659c2a19&is=6589b519&hm=6550dee0e33c6086da32865ccb305e05ac35bc2a73278e0b088d2af516ffc23e&

[drowsy jackal]

i mean for all the other shit too

unles its literally just the mk3

in which case yes kek away

[ember yew]

ah, no

somewhere on fartshart forums patchnotes

[copper hawk]

Waow

MK3 worthless now

How the turn have tabled

[north sedge]

🤔

[ember yew]

nobody said its worthless, but w/e

[stray summit]

Just discovered the saltzpyre headgear which is literally just a rat

I'm thinkin why would saltz let a skaven spy live on his brain

[ember yew]

rat collaborationist

[tranquil axle]

I finished consecrating it finally lol

[sharp zodiac]

Where's the rat

[ember yew]

in vermintide 2

go and check out the new psyker necromancer class

[tranquil axle]

lol sienna has brain burst now basically

[sharp zodiac]

My kin

I actually uninstaller vt2 to have space for Baldur's Gate 3 unfortunately

[tranquil axle]

I reinstalled vt2 when I noticed the sienna DLC, played a few rounds but hated not having a sprint.

[sharp zodiac]

I never played Sienna

I pretty much onetricked sister of the thorn and handmaiden

[tranquil axle]

She operates much like a psyker where if you spam too much stuff she blows up

[stray summit]

Saltzpyre Zealot Headgear

Rat stuck between Victor's Head and a book

[tranquil axle]

Only it hurts her to clense the resource she builds up unless you sacrifice your skelly bois

[stray summit]

Zealots got some

terrible fashion

[stray summit]

Vermintide Zealot

Not our zealot

[tranquil axle]

lol this my zelly

Here at least

I've been having a lot of fun with the Zealot lately. That and Ogryn. My psyker doesn't feel like it used to even right after the skill update.

[heavy arch]

i play vanilla psyker it feels gr8

[tranquil axle]

Err rather, it felt great until shortly after the skill update

[heavy arch]

i love death shriek and brain burst

[tranquil axle]

I like the BB passive that triggers on hit, it makes those big surge staff lightning do insane damage to single targets like crushers lol. Plus I love that dome shield they have. I miss how busted assail was when it first came out lol

[north sedge]

assail is still incredibly strong

[dim otter]

I really liked gunpskyer but playing it made me realize that I was just a weird zealot so I switched lol

[north sedge]

i mean, you can just have different loadouts for different moods

[heavy arch]

i rly only like psyker for trauma staff because it's a different experience

love me explosions

[ember yew]

stop stealing everyone's ammo

[dim otter]

I never needed ammo, almost everyone ran the vet perk for free ammo at the time

[heavy arch]

i bought a bunch of games on steam sale but i keep starting them playing an hour and going back to darktide

[ember yew]

bought like 12, launched so far like 0, you are not alone there

but it goes like that with every sale

you just cant resist

[heavy arch]

ive been rly good about not buying random shit on steam

caved on christmas....

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/bunrs-steam-sale-gif-20331088

[vale carbon]

wait, something happened to the headhunter guns?

[ember yew]

a month + ago

[heady rapids]

anyone has the bleed knife gif

[north sedge]

Nope

[neat badge]

https://streamable.com/ebxmed

[ember yew]

this doesnt looks good

can you fix it

with weapon customization mod?

[heady rapids]

thank you

[royal vortex]

what da hell did u do to that bolter

[neat badge]

y e s

[neat badge]

i could, but do i want to?

[ember yew]

[neat badge]

i have a double barrel shotgun with TWO different muzzles

im clearly doing something right

[heavy arch]

thats hard af

[ember yew]

based

[neat badge]

fr

[heavy arch]

i respect the vision

[neat badge]

my gun is just like me

[heavy arch]

its very space bubba

[neat badge]

this is my merc outfit

i have like 5 outfits

this is my hobo outfit

[ember yew]

i think fatshark will start banning these mods when people will start swap models for something like real space marines

and then upload youtube videos

[neat badge]

lmaoo

i wish for clothes mods

[ember yew]

cuz that will create fake impression (like playable marines)

so they would go hunting these mods

[neat badge]

here have discounted scarecrow

[vocal pulsar]

i got new pc

[neat badge]

i also have bane on my ogryn kek

[vocal pulsar]

put ray tracing on

cant seem to notice the difference

[ember yew]

and got 30 fps?

[royal vortex]

in darktide?

[ember yew]

or do i give much credit to darktide

[vocal pulsar]

it's running perfect

[neat badge]

run darkcache mod and just exist now

[vocal pulsar]

my dad built it

[vocal pulsar]

yeah

[south folio]

skill issue

[vocal pulsar]

i think i can see a little difference

[royal vortex]

raytracting in dt does basically nothing but lower performance

[vocal pulsar]

but it's not like holy wow

[neat badge]

real.

[vocal pulsar]

you cant say a single thing

[royal vortex]

who ruined christmas for u this year mankar

[vocal pulsar]

laptop user

[neat badge]

all my breathern hate ray tracing

[vocal pulsar]

playdough beta toy story gaming looking ass

speak not to me, arco tash

[south folio]

very rude

you will die

[fading vale]

what did Santa leave under the tree

[vocal pulsar]

alls i know is it has a 4080ti

[neat badge]

santa did not in fact give me my space marine under the tree

[warm trellis]

you can tell in some games but not that much here especially in the mourningstar

[royal vortex]

i got a godroll plasma gun from brunt/hadron for christmas

[vocal pulsar]

let me look at control panel

i used to have a 5700xt

[ember yew]

sitting at 6700 xt here

[neat badge]

i have a 1070ti 🙃

[ember yew]

tho 5700xt is probably still pretty good

[neat badge]

and i run at like 70+ fps

[vocal pulsar]

mine ran darktide decently on high settings

with fsr2 or whatever

[ember yew]

ye fsr 2.2

[vocal pulsar]

but now im running it on high + raytracing with no dlss

and getting 70-80fps most of the time

[fading vale]

bruh

turn raytracing off

[vocal pulsar]

i am going to

[fading vale]

70-80 is garbage

[ember yew]

im at 120-144fps guy

i will take lower settings anyday and smooth pic over ultra settings

[tranquil axle]

I game on a potato and get like 30 frames with everything on minimum lolol

[neat badge]

its the best i can get with a 1070ti 😭

[olive raven]

3090 go brrrrt

[ember yew]

cant live without that smooth screen movements and animations

[warm trellis]

let the man enjoy the fruits of his chrimbus

[fading vale]

I run at 150 most of the time depending on map

[olive raven]

3090 getting me 30-90 frames on ready or not

💀

[fading vale]

oof

[ember yew]

ouch

[tranquil axle]

I only have a GeForce GTX 1060 😐

[ember yew]

used to have 3gb one

great card

[fading vale]

new games are just so horribly optimized

they don't even look better

[olive raven]

This is good for ready or not so 💀

[ember yew]

devs just dont put any effort

and leave it to DLSS/FSR

[olive raven]

It’s rushed deadlines

[ember yew]

sad times

[tranquil axle]

Yeah for the age I'm surprised it's help us as long as it has but I'm not getting to where the newest games wont even run with everything on minimum

I'm getting to where*

[ember yew]

anyone remember Remnant from the Ashes 2 release version

[olive raven]

The devs can it’s fuckin business fucks saying dont

[ember yew]

it was unoptimized garbage

[fading vale]

upscaling is a hard requirement now even on a 4090

[ember yew]

and still technically is

but just a bit better

[fading vale]

it's very dumb

[olive raven]

Tbh I can’t wait to just

Redo my PC’s case + thermals

And get like a 70% increase

[long urchin]

blessings for new evis?

[olive raven]

To performance

[warm trellis]

it's already fundamentally baked in from the GPU manufacturers, of course everyone's gonna use upscaling

[olive raven]

Rampage + whatever

[warm trellis]

don't blame the Devs lol

why wouldn't you use the tech

[fading vale]

I mean yes of course they are, but that doesn't mean it should run like dogshit without it

[warm trellis]

usually you just gotta turn some pointlessly wasteful settings off and it runs fine

it's the issue of selling games off visuals

[fading vale]

it's good technology overall, but we are barely hitting good numbers even with upscaling

[olive raven]

Issue is it still doesn’t 💀

[frosty herald]

Frame generation my beloved

[fading vale]

and the visuals aren't even improving

[warm trellis]

at least consoles aren't still stuck to 30 fps

[olive raven]

If they did basic shit, games would still run fine

[warm trellis]

so Devs at least optimize to 60

[olive raven]

There’s no reason why games like COD should be 200GB

[warm trellis]

or it won't run well on consoles

[ember yew]

oh yeah warzone case

[frosty herald]

Re4 remake is optimized pretty good

[warm trellis]

remember the time of the 30 fps lock with optional unlock via some mod or setting tweak

[olive raven]

Good times

[warm trellis]

it wasn't ever roses and sunshine

I'll take dlss over that shit any day

[olive raven]

Tbh

I’ll take a game with consistent frames

Over one capable of 144+ but the optimization fucks it

[frosty herald]

Luckily dlss 3.0 doesnt take a shit on my graphics

[olive raven]

I literally don’t use DLSS even with access

Cause my PC unfortunately has

two fans

[frosty herald]

Also ac6 on max settings without anything

[patent flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617476376664211470/1184098882163052674/bounce.gif?ex=6593f785&is=65818285&hm=3d278df7fe565cfabed3a66b740ad93206e497aac7587dc6f052ab6df80f6c57&

[frosty herald]

Only frame drops are when alot of shit is on screen

[fading vale]

I have a 12900k and a 4090 and have to use DLSS and turn a couple settings down to get a constant 120-144+ in literally any new game, darktide included

[frosty herald]

Like 90% of frame drops are during assault armor

[warm trellis]

its because no game (with notable exceptions like CS) is made to run at those frames nowadays

boomer shooters can pull it easily because their aesthetic lends to it too

[fading vale]

cyberpunk is like the only game where I will accept lower fps cause it actually looks impressive

[olive raven]

Yea if a game has

Absurdly detailed graphics I’ll take it

[warm trellis]

thats because that game actually makes use of more interesting raytracing tech than most games

[olive raven]

Darktide??

Nah

[north sedge]

alan wake 2 is insane looking and runs shockingly well

[warm trellis]

like DT uses some shadow casting shit thats about it

[fading vale]

yeah the raytracing in cyberpunk is impressive

[warm trellis]

meanwhile the lighting bouncing off house walls in cyberpunk can light up the interior of your car as youre driving past that house at stupid speeds and silly shit like tha

[frosty herald]

Dlss 3.5

Theres also a mod to increase the quality of the raytracing and increase performance

[fading vale]

I get like, 80-120 with everything maxed in cyberpunk and also DLSS of course

[warm trellis]

I dont c:

3070

[frosty herald]

Dlss 3.5 increases the quality of raytracing significantly

[fading vale]

the input lag is a bit noticeable but it's not unplayable

[frosty herald]

It has dynamic lightrays and reflections instead of static ones

[fading vale]

from frame gen

I like how I had to mod DLSS into starfield to get playable FPS on my setup

[crude lake]

Christmas stuff is done and I can finally try to fight the twins

[fading vale]

when it came out, now I think DLSS is built in

[tranquil axle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/738?tab=description This the mod by the way for the FSR3 thing,

[frosty herald]

Yknow whats hilarious

The skyrim together team abandoned the mod port to starfield cause the game was so dreadfully boring

[tranquil axle]

No remember their mods say we're playing it wrong and that it's not boring.

lol

[blazing fossil]

starfield was a huge letdown for sure lol

[tranquil axle]

Massive.

[ember yew]

dlssg_to_fsr3_amd_is_better.dll

[fading vale]

I had fun with it for like 60 hours, but wouldn't replay it

[blazing fossil]

my fav was finding open beer bottles and lounge chairs outside on planets with no atmosphere

[fading vale]

main story was garbage, some side quests were pretty cool

[blazing fossil]

Bethesda was known for their immersion in prior games lol

[frosty herald]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10490

[light holly]

Starfield together just sounds like loading screens together

[frosty herald]

This is the mod

[light holly]

At least in skyrim together you could walk together city

[median steeple]

Lotta words in that title

[light holly]

Starfield you sit there to a load screen

[frosty herald]

The lead writer for bethesda could NOT take critisism lmao

[fading vale]

I'll have to try this when I play cyberpunk again

[light holly]

I just dont know how Bethesda could ship starfield

[frosty herald]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/8059

[fading vale]

space travel is literally a glorified loading screen, so cool

[autumn fern]

Guys i got a question about penance. I did it so many times , but it only counts 23 kills so far , what i am doing wrong lol ? Or is it better to stun nade , and headshot with some rifles ?

[frosty herald]

Should be 1.1 compatible

[light holly]

Very good gameplay

They saw fast travel

And said "let's make a game out of this"

[blazing fossil]

yea starfield story was hot garbage, they should have it tie into humanity first contact with aliens or something

[frosty herald]

This is very very easy

Get blazing piety and a sword

[autumn fern]

i dunno man , dos't count for me 😦

[tranquil axle]

lol it was funny how much they tried to gaslight their player base (starfield)

[fading vale]

you have to get critical hits while they are stunned, headshots are not critical hits

[autumn fern]

bruh -.-

[frosty herald]

People expected starfield to be no mans sky

Instead its loading man sky

[fading vale]

run 1000m on empty planet to find the next thing

and pointlessly scan shit

terrormorphs were the best quest, and pirates, and some of the funny weird side quests

I kinda feel like terrormorphs should have been the main quest

[opaque island]

stun a horde, chastise, wide swing, chastise wide swing. is the best way to get a few gauranteed critical hit kills everytime

thats how i did it

[fading vale]

I just ran a cavalcade autopistol and shot groaners/poxwalkers

[opaque island]

thats probably easier tbh

[fading vale]

got it in like 2 or 3 games

[autumn fern]

alright , thanks , i will try , but i also cant start solo mission ?

[frosty herald]

Do a private game

Bots arent smart enough to stay alive

[autumn fern]

i cant , it says i have to be in strike team

[celest junco]

what would yall say is the most crucial blessing on a thunder hammer?

[dense field]

thrust

[solemn warren]

Hammerblow and skullcrusher. Still weak to carapace, but that's what crit revolver w/rending is for. Or bolter.

[dense field]

Parry

Simple as

[celest junco]

what devils claw yall like?

[dense field]

Parry does some respectable damage to everything

I like 4

IV

[celest junco]

fair

[solemn warren]

Yeah but, it eats stamina like crazy

I have 2 plus 3s and half the bar is gone for 1 mauler parry

[south folio]

for block bypass attacks, the parry takes less stamina damage if you start the parry within a narrower window

[safe tusk]

Knife parry when

Delete the stupid punch

Give me a parry

[lean lark]

no

[safe tusk]

[lean lark]

just delete the knife altogether

replace it with greatswords

[safe tusk]

Okay but what if we have both

[lean lark]

shit

because there's knife

[safe tusk]

What if you can knife + greatsword

Dual wielding

[lean lark]

this is not abyss watchers from dark souls 1

[safe tusk]

IT IS NOW

[lean lark]

psyker should get chaos bed vestige as a blitz tbh

[sharp zodiac]

They should just become the bed of chaos if they overload

[viral hare]

I mean nearly all of psykers talents and abilities are word for word ripped from 40k lore

[sharp zodiac]

New obstacle course

[viral hare]

There’s a lot of potential

[light holly]

Well yeah the writer is pretty deep into the loore

All character mentions of the various factions, all part of thr looore

Only the characters are really like new

[strange kestrel]

just run blazing piety, a high cleave weapon and stunstorm

hi btw its been a while

[viral hare]

Darktide is a gateway drug to being a warhammer nerd and it’s working on me

[strange kestrel]

kinda burnt out of darktide ngl

[sharp zodiac]

Darktide is the only thing preventing me from only playing Baldur's Gate

I don't even care for the 40k lore and whatnot it's just stupid fun

[dense field]

Ye

[ember yew]

Those story cutscenes was beyond helping:

HELLO CONVINCTS, YA ALL DID A GREAT JOB, NOW GET OUT OF HERE
repeat till level 30 reached
LOOK, THIS RANDOM GENERIC 3D MODEL GUY IS THE TRAITOR
DIE, TRAITOR
YA ALL DID A GREAT JOB, NOW GET OUT OF HERE

[dense field]

Sometimes I feel like I'm tired of darktide but the feeling goes away as I spawn at the Mourningstar

[ember yew]

better just have lore elements without "main story"

[dense field]

It all could have been a single cinematic played at level 1

[ember yew]

indeed

just hello and get to work, bye

[fading vale]

I'd play more DT but I kind of got demotivated to do things and also 2 games with hammer makes me tired after tryharding so much

[ember yew]

pick some crit build and do swing swing

[dense field]

Crit is kinda boring

Maybe I overdid it

[fading vale]

I don't want to play braindead builds really

[dense field]

Momentum is more satisfying somehow

[fading vale]

chastise momentum feels like my ideal of what zealot is supposed to be

[dense field]

Yes, it feels pure

[coarse birch]

Damn hope you feel better man

I need to play more hammer ive always preferred evis for 2 handed weps

[dense field]

I should learn to use ze knife properly

[fading vale]

I will instead replace it with degenerate anime and content

[coarse birch]

Nice

[dense field]

I feel like it'll teach me something new

[coarse birch]

Knife is fun

[fading vale]

that and fighting with Steve cause he wants more food and I'm trying not to overfeed him

[coarse birch]

I quite enjoy

[ember yew]

momentum is faster swing swing, less crit

[coarse birch]

Yeah i would not overfeed steve

[steel temple]

Big Steve

[fading vale]

he gets so fucking pissy and follows me and yells

[steel temple]

Chonk

hihihi

[fading vale]

and just stares

[dense field]

Play with Steve

[steel temple]

He needs to go to the gym, man

[fading vale]

sits up on my chest and just stares into my soul

[ember yew]

didnt we talk today

that if you use hammer, you gonna die from boredoom

[fading vale]

I've used the hammer for like 900 hours

[ember yew]

how are you still alive

[steel temple]

That's a good one, very funny, must be one of those Christmas jokes

[fading vale]

cause it's most exciting weapon

I actually have to like, have braincells to play the game

[mossy lodge]

guys how do i unlock just just a flesh wound archiment?

[steel temple]

thammer is the pinnacle of Zealot melee, you should be so lucky to pick it up

[ember yew]

its like you shoot one a big one (60k on a boss) and then there's nothing for you to do entire match

[fading vale]

wrong

so so so wrong

if that's how you hammer then of course it's boring

[dense field]

Yeah you don't even shoot the big one

[steel temple]

Go fight a pack of crushers maulers and ragers with a thammer and you'll learn a thing or two about melee

[dense field]

jk

[ember yew]

random pug guy with his thammer mk ii against 6 crushers, 8 zercs and 7 maulers, while his hammer stuck in one target:

tho it would be more fun if Thammer MK IV wouldnt stuck in flak elites or dogs or other ones

[hollow lagoon]

Keep seeing this fancy ass animation with the knife where you spin it on your palm

How do you get that, shits rad as hell

[ember yew]

a true cleave for anything besides big guys

[dense field]

Remove all your wounds curios, get below 1 wound, don't get hit anymore, win

[steel temple]

Feels bad for the guy having his thammer stuck on one target

[dense field]

Inspect several times

[steel temple]

learn how to space and dodge, I guess

[ember yew]

look at this guy getting all serious and throwing insults, jeez

[fading vale]

yeah the satisfying part of hammer is learning how to deal with shit and actually aim

[steel temple]

of join my auric games and become the subject of my next reddit post, that also works

[fading vale]

instead of just like, hurdur I'ma spam m1 on caxe

[lean lark]

no bro caxe is the PEAK of zealot.

you click m1 and the enemy DIES???

and if it doesnt die it STAGGERS'?

that's peak.

[fading vale]

brb installing auto swing mod

[steel temple]

I don't think it occurs to people who talk only about boss 1shot and thammer getting stuck on targets that there is skill involved in melee

[ember yew]

[lean lark]

what if i told you

rashad can oneshot(twoshot) bosses

like thammer does

(hopefully only this patch)

[fading vale]

ok fuck off with stealth bug nonsense

[ember yew]

oh yeah that bug

[lean lark]

what

the bug lets you secure the kill in one ability

[steel temple]

I have a 544 rated Rashad Priest I know, i just don't find it very interesting

[lean lark]

without the bug you're still dealing 30k+ dmg in one hit to the boss

[fading vale]

you don't even need stealth to 2 shot a boss on hammer though

[lean lark]

yeah you use chastise

im not devaluating thammer

im calling the caxe even more fucking dumb

[fading vale]

yeah fair

[steel temple]

As it has always been

[ember yew]

tbh they probably fix stealth bug in a month or two since they are already on holidays for a month+ like or something

[fading vale]

the stealth damage scaling is a bit whack

[strange kestrel]

i mean even without the stealth bug the rashad is stupid

[fading vale]

oh of course

you can just spam and kill literally everything

[strange kestrel]

i wouldnt compare rashad to thammer, or anything

[fading vale]

from safety

[strange kestrel]

just not a good foundation to start comparing since rashad is kind of unarguably the best melee

[fading vale]

insert josho clip of one tapping 4 gunners on a rashad

"new BM is a nerf trust me"

[light holly]

Just the casual 3-4 tap on crushers

[strange kestrel]

i could never use the default rashad

[dense field]

Caxe is actually a fun weapon. It has a good balance of speed, dodge dist, damage.

[strange kestrel]

gotta have the achlys taxe head

[fading vale]

why does it stagger so hard

[light holly]

I'm gonna say it but you do need to min max it harder

[lean lark]

because its combatative laz

its a combat axe

it combats

[strange kestrel]

yup sounds about right

[light holly]

And I wish FS would bump up the shittiest weapons for lower levels

Because some of the weapons feel terrible

[ember yew]

Rashad is like VT2 Glaive, but much faster and easier to use

[dense field]

Sure it's possible to spam m1 but it will only get you so far

[light holly]

At low levels

[ember yew]

Glaive heavy is a slow one

[light holly]

So much so I'm certain some folks would look over them now

[lean lark]

this is not true

[strange kestrel]

it will get you as far as the moon

[lean lark]

spamming m1 on rashad will get you through any mission

[fading vale]

oh sorry you spam m1 for anything that's not a crusher or unyielding

[strange kestrel]

literally lmao

[dense field]

I disagree

[light holly]

Courtesy of Azrael

[strange kestrel]

either youve never used a rashad or you brought a grey rashad to AM

[light holly]

I mean the secret is knowing how to build the rashad in the first place

[lean lark]

what secret is there to it

what?

[fading vale]

"secret"

[strange kestrel]

bromentum and bromentum with dmg against bromentum and dmg vs bromentum

[light holly]

Well "secret"

[lean lark]

the headtaker brutal momentum flak maniac secret

[strange kestrel]

??

[light holly]

You need a god roll

[dense field]

Secret?

[lean lark]

you dont even need a god roll

[strange kestrel]

you dont even need a god roll

😭

[light holly]

Of just 70's in all damage stat

[lean lark]

you just need like, normal stats you'd have on a weapon

[light holly]

Hard disgaree

[fading vale]

70s in damage stats is basic shit

[light holly]

Okay what do you need here

Unarmoured, maniac
BM, Head taker

[strange kestrel]

you just need a rashad and brutal momentum it can be from t1 to t4

stop tripping

[steel temple]

What secret is there to building a rashad lol

[strange kestrel]

thats literally all you need to make the rashad the best melee in the game

[steel temple]

unarmoured is a bad perk

[strange kestrel]

stop this needing a god roll nonsense

it aint true

[light holly]

Unarmoured for rashad is good

Wtf

[dense field]

It's not maniacs

[fading vale]

nobody runs unarmored on rashad

flak maniac is all anyone uses

[light holly]

Okay now I know

[strange kestrel]

yea

[light holly]

You dont know

🥹

[steel temple]

Are you aware of the two most common armor types in the game

[median steeple]

hmmm so full of maniac

[strange kestrel]

unarmoured is overkill

[lean lark]

whaaat

[light holly]

Because you need to be able to one tap scab bruisers bro

[fading vale]

tell me what breakpoint are you hitting with unarmored

[strange kestrel]

since you kind of oneshot everything but crushers already

[steel temple]

That are Flak and Maniac

[light holly]

Scab bruisers

[lean lark]

on vet!!!

[fading vale]

you can one shot scab bruisers without unarmored

[light holly]

On vet!!!!

[lean lark]

you oneshot scab bruisers as vet with +unarmoured

[strange kestrel]

yeah

[light holly]

I'm losing my mknd

[lean lark]

its so fucking worth it man

[light holly]

I should have prefaced it

[lean lark]

instead of running psword or chainsword

[light holly]

Yes on vet you need unarmoured for rashad

[strange kestrel]

that is a very odd breakpoint

[lean lark]

or literally any other weapon that lets you do that without +unarmoured

[light holly]

Its the difference between cleaving 1 scab brusier

Or cleaving through 3 iirc

[dense field]

HS>Rashad

[lean lark]

what.?

[steel temple]

Why are scab bruisers the focus of an entire perk and not ragers or mutants or maulers or 70% of all enemies in the game who are Flak and Maniac lol

[lean lark]

if you oneshot the first bruiser you'll cleave through the other 4

[light holly]

Because it kills your horde clear

[strange kestrel]

what.

[light holly]

Because rashad already does incredible against ragers

[fading vale]

I mean hsword is also dummy strong

[light holly]

Mutants are...

[ember yew]

funny thing, back when i started playing darktide, like early 30s, i asked some random Zealot guy with good equip what to make as a general jack-of-all-trade wep when im new and he told me Rashad mk2

[light holly]

I mean you'll be able to probably one tap a mutant in the head

[light holly]

With a charged strike

[ember yew]

this was the first ever weapon i made in the game

[strange kestrel]

hsword is up there with the best melees but still not better than rashad

[light holly]

We got like
Psword 6, And Rashad as the high contenders

[edgy ridge]

what's a good blessing for thunderhammer, other than thrust ofc

[steel temple]

Your rashad can take out mutants and ragers which are 2 to 3 times tankier than the bruiser but you need an entire perk for the bruiser, do you see how this reads

[median steeple]

Hsword (Nuclear bomb) vs every other melee (coughing baby)

[light holly]

That's how cleave on vet works bae bae

Yes

Because that breakpoint

Is close

Its that difference

Between cleaving just 1 guy

Or 3

[lean lark]

yeah

heavysword is the best zealot melee

-boss dmg and armor

[dense field]

HS kills anything that's not a crusher blob or a monster faster than Rashad

[lean lark]

which puts it on pair with rashad

[light holly]

HS my beloved

[trail grove]

Replace with...?

[strange kestrel]

i agree but its not better

[lean lark]

it is better

[strange kestrel]

🤷‍♂️

[strange kestrel]

thats a brick bro

[light holly]

Doesn't HS sword struggle vs crushers?

[strange kestrel]

1/4

[light holly]

What do you take

Carapace

[strange kestrel]

kinda the special does the job

[light holly]

Maniac

[strange kestrel]

for most armor

[lean lark]

hsword struggles vs carapace and that's it

it has mediocre boss dmg

[light holly]

Headtaker rampage

[dense field]

It's over for this one

[lean lark]

but you take a bolter or other antiarmor

[steel temple]

HS still runs Flak Maniac like 90% of melees in the game

[lean lark]

both issues resolved

[fading vale]

the whole struggle vs carapace thing kind of goes away when you use chastise

[lean lark]

^

[strange kestrel]

yeah

[lean lark]

with enough buffs you can oneshot crushers

on hsword

[strange kestrel]

just chastise

[lean lark]

or you know, use your ranged weapon

[edgy ridge]

or just run revolver and shoot it 3 times

[light holly]

Really?

[lean lark]

the tools available to you?

yes?

[light holly]

I swear even on chastise

[median steeple]

crazy

[light holly]

And a headshot

I don't one-shot crushers

[steel temple]

This might be a clientside issue

[strange kestrel]

heavy swords lack of dmg against armor doesnt matter because revolver covers that

[lean lark]

it's only lack of dmg is carapace

[light holly]

Which is fine

[strange kestrel]

yea thats what im saying

[light holly]

If it's covering everything else already then yeah naw you're right

[lean lark]

is that your only argument for saying the rashad is better than hsword

[hollow lagoon]

If I want to turn my brain off and use dash fury zealot what should I use for a ranged option

[strange kestrel]

that argument stopped many messages ago bro

idk why ur still tripping over that

[edgy ridge]

you are the ranged option, launch yourself at the enemy

[light holly]

I mean I think the argument is more like
HS >= Rashad

[hollow lagoon]

So true.

[lean lark]

idk im too used to having lobomized caxe users in here

[trail grove]

Good or bad?

[lean lark]

guess im still right

[trail grove]

I still have other Blessings of this.

[fading vale]

yeah the point is you use the armor downgrade on ranged weapons

and delete 2 or 3 crushers

[edgy ridge]

probably revolver if you're going blazing piety, or a shotgun like the agripina

[light holly]

Hmm

[lean lark]

kantrael shotgun

and use fire rounds 99% of the time

[edgy ridge]

something that draws fast and can take out specials like trappers

[steel temple]

but does it cover scab bruisers, i know it can handle stuff that are several orders of magnitude tankier than this randomass low spawn weight enemy type but what if

[lean lark]

pierces bulwarks

[ember yew]

i should try deathblow later, but the weapon feels already really strong, so not like that matters either way

[strange kestrel]

Its not good

[light holly]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-yeet-funny-gif-21938191

[lean lark]

deathblow will make it stronger

[light holly]

Don't ask me how break points work

[trail grove]

Oof

[strange kestrel]

Barely useable if you replace both blessings

[lean lark]

rampage offers nothing of value

[light holly]

This is how it it

[strange kestrel]

But too much investment for little reward

[trail grove]

Welp, I wasted both for nothing.

[strange kestrel]

Just look for a better revolver

[lean lark]

(the only value is slightly faster horde ttk)

[light holly]

All im saying is

[trail grove]

That was the better revolver.

[median steeple]

hadron givith and hadron taketh

[light holly]

The scab brusier breakpoint is a clear concern when you build a rashad

At least on vet

[lean lark]

deathblow offers slightly better dmg and also the option to cleave through 6 targets at full damage

[spare talon]

How do I give hadron a present

[light holly]

Because it'll fuck your horde clear

[strange kestrel]

Which one

Oh that ss

Yeah its a brick

[trail grove]

That's the latest one I had.

4th revolver dead.

[strange kestrel]

Good luck on your next one

[light holly]

Probably still need to try to get Cruccian roullete and hand cannon

[ember yew]

il check this out later

[spare talon]

I want to give her a wrapped pipe bomb

[ember yew]

[edgy ridge]

she'd probably be happy to receive that archeotech weapon tho

[trail grove]

Heard that one before.

[ember yew]

when i tried to make Evis MK15

[strange kestrel]

Me too

[ember yew]

first 15k plasteel

didnt gave me anything, like at all

rng sometimes makes you sad

[strange kestrel]

Yeah

The crafting system is bad

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-christmas-gif-6411344967599693273

how it feels to craft a good anything

[strange kestrel]

😭

[ember yew]

feels like you won a lottery

[median steeple]

get god roll, upgrade to blue, bricked

[strange kestrel]

Thats what it is

Gambling

[median steeple]

repeat

[strange kestrel]

Gacha crafting system

😬

[ember yew]

^

[gilded coral]

what's the best blessing combo for a zealot stealth knife build?

[maiden path]

who up jolly af

[strange kestrel]

Flesh tearer lacerate

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-cheer-goku-jolly-present-gif-10077742462783738616

[light holly]

@steel temple oh sorry it's 4 scab brusiers, so 12 brusiers in 6 seconds

[quartz kettle]

how else they gonna make u do same content over and over

[light holly]

So its the difference between

[strange kestrel]

Because its fun?

[gilded coral]

tyty

[quartz kettle]

i agree

[light holly]

Hitting 1 scab bruiser and not cleaving more

[strange kestrel]

They dont have to make a shitty crafting system to make the game replayable

[quartz kettle]

but some ppl just want carrots

[light holly]

And then you add in unarmoured and you cleave 4 scab brusiersnin a single swing

Its important

[strange kestrel]

Nono im joking do uncanny strike precognition

Sorry

Flesh tearer lacerate is mediocre

[maiden path]

when is zealot just gonna get a rocket launcher

[gilded coral]

wait why precog? don't hear that too often

[coarse birch]

Because most people fall into the bleed trap lol

[strange kestrel]

Crit and weakspot dmg on dodge

Its absolutely insabe

Insane

[light holly]

Like yes, do I think its funny that rashad can 3 tap crushers but can't cleave through more than 1 scab bruiser without unarmoured

Yeah

But that's the way breakpoints work

[gilded coral]

oh ok sweet imma try that combo out thank you!

[strange kestrel]

Good luck

[gilded coral]

tyty

[light holly]

Also rashad is primarily anti armor first

So it makes sense it'll do better vs crushers

And worse vs unarmoured

[strange kestrel]

I still think that brutal momentum balances out its lack of horde clear whilst making it disgusting at every enemy type

[quartz kettle]

u have two weapons for a reason

[ember yew]

but you can probably skip unarmoured if you are momentum or martyrdom zealot right?

[light holly]

Hhhhh

[fading vale]

BM makes it 1 shot 4 of any horde enemy per swing

[light holly]

I need to ping azreal

[strange kestrel]

Yeah

[light holly]

To conform

[ember yew]

[fading vale]

and unarmored is useless in zealot

[light holly]

Alot of what I bring to the table is regurgitated information

[fading vale]

with like, any amount of buffs up you 1 shot bruisers

[coarse birch]

Does BM still give unlimited cleave on headshot or is 4 just as many as caxe can give

I havent used caxe since pre p 13

[fading vale]

BM is primary damage to up to 4 things if you kill

[coarse birch]

Ok

Ik its still dumb lol

[fading vale]

so if you one shot 1 thing you can one shot 4

[strange kestrel]

It is

[ember yew]

is there a single weapon in the game with infinite cleave?

[light holly]

The one shot is a given

The focus is

[strange kestrel]

Kantrael fire breath

[fading vale]

crusher light special

[ember yew]

[light holly]

Can you cleave through bruisers without unarmoured

[coarse birch]

Idk why fs keeps making weapons with no weakness and then is like "surely other weapons can compete"

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cheems-bonk-doge-celestev69-gif-24399197

[strange kestrel]

Because their way of balancing is very stupid

[ember yew]

always has been

[light holly]

FS when they kill the recon

[strange kestrel]

If you have a table and one leg is longer than the rest you make that one shorter you dont make the 3 other legs longer

But thats what they do

[light holly]

I mean

They nerfed revolver

[median steeple]

I hope if they ever do add the helgun it isnt ass like the recon

[light holly]

To be fair

[coarse birch]

Not really though

[median steeple]

They nerfed hand cannon not the actual gun

[strange kestrel]

Thet didnt

[coarse birch]

Its still just better everything

[strange kestrel]

They*

[ember yew]

but it was the king for like a year?

[strange kestrel]

Yup

Still is the king

Lol

[ember yew]

im sorry your highness

[coarse birch]

Revo was not king for a year it fucking blew

[ember yew]

[fading vale]

oh no revolver still has 100% ADM to carapace

[coarse birch]

Till a few months ago

[median steeple]

they seem to just be nerfing blessings instead of weapons unless they are really problematic

[north sedge]

revolver was not good until patch 13

[fading vale]

revolver was kinda ass til patch 13 yeah

[north sedge]

and then the buffed it more for some reason

[fading vale]

now it's overpowered as hell

[light holly]

Well handcannonmade the revolver broke

[north sedge]

and then barely a slap on the wrist, more like a gentle pat

[maiden path]

what cpu do you guys have that let you play this game at 60fps

[strange kestrel]

Nice heresy scoreboard

[median steeple]

yes thats why they nerfed hand cannon and not revolver

[coarse birch]

Cpu or gpu

[maiden path]

cpu

[ember yew]

i5-12600/6700 xt

[coarse birch]

My cpu is ryzen 9 5900x

[fading vale]

yeah except the hand cannon nerf is literally meaningless

[median steeple]

the revolver is still really good but HC made it even made it more so

[strange kestrel]

^

[north sedge]

ryzen 7 3800x

[maiden path]

i need a new cpu because the one I have is so shit in comparison it bottlenecks everythings

[strange kestrel]

Get a ryzen 9 or a new gen i7

[coarse birch]

What's your gpu

[fading vale]

and the carapace nerf is also literally meaningless

[maiden path]

pretty sure thats the one ive been looking at getting

[north sedge]

i mean, if you're gonna upgrade anyway you may wanna go higher than that

[maiden path]

AMD Ryzen 3 2200G

2018

[north sedge]

just to future proof

[strange kestrel]

Yeah thats pretty outdated for darktide at least

[maiden path]

yea

bottlenecks the fuck out of everything

pain in the ass

[strange kestrel]

Sucks

[coarse birch]

Make sure you dont bottleneck the gpu

[maiden path]

tf2 runs at 80% cpu at all times

[coarse birch]

Sounds like you know what your doing tho

[strange kestrel]

Yeah

Gl

[fading vale]

just be a lonely programmer like me and buy a new future proof PC

[coarse birch]

Same

[maiden path]

only need 2 things for my pc

[coarse birch]

Simply spend 2500 on your pc

[maiden path]

an ssd

and cpu

already spent like 1k

[ember yew]

👍

[maiden path]

cant give it up now

im suprised it works in da first place

[strange kestrel]

Until you get a new cpu play deep rock galactic

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/cassia-rogue-trader-40k-warhammer-40k-gif-7314184974718077922

[fading vale]

my GPU was like 1800 alone..... seems stupid and is stupid but fuck it what else am I spending it on

[coarse birch]

Did you get a 4090

[maiden path]

das all ive been playing!!!

[strange kestrel]

I mean its not your fault that its expensive

[maiden path]

cause it runs great

[fading vale]

yeah I got a 4090

[strange kestrel]

Yeah DRG is fucking amaIng

Amazing

[coarse birch]

My gpu was 800 which is

Less

But still a lot

[strange kestrel]

Mine was 1600

[coarse birch]

7900 xt 20gig

[autumn fern]

i got stable 80-110 fps on medium

Ryzen 3700x and 3070 TI

[fading vale]

I got a 4090 from a local shop like 15 days within release after they got a shipment, couldn't find it anywhere else

[strange kestrel]

I dont mind spending too much money on my pc, i live a very simple life either i upgrade my pc or i just hoard it lmao

[maiden path]

once i get a cpu I should be able to go ultra

(instinct)

[fading vale]

yeah I'm like, well if I'm gonna spend hundreds of hours on my computer

why not

[strange kestrel]

Yeah

[coarse birch]

I debated getting a 4080/90 but its just so expensive rn

And i couldn't justify it

[maiden path]

ive had such a shity dell for like 80% of my life I don't think i can go any lower or ill just start punching holes in my wall

[strange kestrel]

I mean if your pc performs on everything you use it for i dont see the reason for upgrading it

[fading vale]

I haven't been able to go lower than 120fps since like, 2011

[coarse birch]

Yeah i get 100 fps on dt max settings

So like

At 1440p too

[strange kestrel]

I only upgrade my pc when i realize its falling behind

[coarse birch]

Im fine

[strange kestrel]

Or when something breaks

[fading vale]

yeah my 2080 and 4700k was not cutting it for darktide so I just said fuck it

[strange kestrel]

When my motherboard died i was like might as well upgrade the whole thing

So i did

[fading vale]

technically I silently traded my 1080ti for a 2080ti from work lol

but not like anyone was gonna notice that and I was the only one doing GPU work (from home)

[strange kestrel]

LMAO

I respect that

[fading vale]

and my boss who bought it got fired so

[north sedge]

just write a 2 in marker on the card

[strange kestrel]

I upgraded from 1080 straight to 4080 and im chilling for the next 3-4 years?

5 hopefully

[ember yew]

probably more

[strange kestrel]

Yeah

[ember yew]

unless you want to dive

into VR

[strange kestrel]

I never got into VR

Everytime i was about to buy the headset with the controllers i was like nah nvm

[fading vale]

I've played VR a little and tbh it's kinda fun

[strange kestrel]

I forgot the name now

[fading vale]

superhot was awesome

[ember yew]

Valve Index, Oculus or Meta Quest

or something else

[strange kestrel]

Ah

The oculus

Yeah

I still remember the hype about it when it first released back in 2013

Or was it 2013

[fading vale]

isn't there a newer one like pixel something

[ember yew]

[strange kestrel]

2014*

[ember yew]

around that

[strange kestrel]

Oculus rift

[fading vale]

that is supposed to be super high end

[ember yew]

there's a lot of other ones, tho i honestly dont know which one is the best

[strange kestrel]

No idea honestly im not caught up with VR at all

Except the facebook meta disaster

[copper hawk]

UGLY

[fading vale]

yeah I'm not either

[ripe heron]

I don't know any vr stuff I would get into.

[strange kestrel]

Mark zuckerbergs billion dollar flop

[ember yew]

i would play Alyx at least

[cerulean pike]

oh great y'all fuckers are talkin bout my expertise

cracks knuckles

[north sedge]

half life alyx would be neat but that's kinda it

[fading vale]

it's funny to see people playing skyrim VR with treadmills

[ripe heron]

I need longevity.

[fading vale]

they are literally running across the map

[north sedge]

oh i guess star wars squadrons was cool with a headset

[ember yew]

They are probably playing Skyrim VR porn offstream

[strange kestrel]

Oh yeah now that you mention it

[copper hawk]

Uh oh

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/warp-travel-warhammer40k-rogue-trader-warhammer-gif-27085699

[strange kestrel]

Piloting a x-wing with VR would be awesome

[copper hawk]

Akari

[cerulean pike]

best current budget option
quest

best current option
index

[copper hawk]

Wrathkari

[copper hawk]

Troo

[ember yew]

which one?

theres a few models there

[copper hawk]

I do the dangerous warp jumps because I'm a masochist

[ember yew]

or just newest one

quest*

[cerulean pike]

not the quest 1, quest 2 probably best bet since it's cheaper than the 3

[copper hawk]

And like fighting a hundred Daemonesses all at once

[cerulean pike]

If it was in the past I would've said the oculus rift for budget option

but they stopped supportin that shit

[strange kestrel]

Warp travel would suck i feel like

[cerulean pike]

Never touch vive cause all it is, is just overpriced bullshit now

[strange kestrel]

Im chilling on earth

[cerulean pike]

only vive stuff to touch is the vive trackers 3.0 and the base stations

never the main headset

[copper hawk]

I'm a lesser hominid

VR makes me queasy

[sharp zodiac]

Vive la-

[cerulean pike]

in terms of VR games? there's quite a few but only a few strike a lot of people's fancy.

[copper hawk]

Get the one that's like

What's it called

The sword-y swing-y one..

Darkness and something..

[strange kestrel]

The only games that caught my attention were alyx and blade and sorcery

[copper hawk]

Idk I ate a book once

Yah !! Blade and sorcery !!

[cerulean pike]

ghosts of tabor which is basically tarkov
all the racing games/flying sims
all the rhythm games for it
vrchat being the only "good" social one
alyx, B&S, gun simulators

[copper hawk]

Is Ghosts of Tabor the one with the monsters

And u have like

A lil room u can put stuff in

[cerulean pike]

then there's all the VR mods for games like payday 2, risk of rain 2

soon to be lethal company

[strange kestrel]

Vr lethal company sounds fun