zealot-class

[craggy maple]

stabbing things in the face with heavy seems very effective against single target but it does like 0 horde damage

[keen silo]

i use thecata mk 6
for hordes its just light attacks
for single targets its usually heavies
or push stab

[craggy maple]

ah

push stab?

[vestal coyote]

Hey guys

What's the dump stat for laspistols?

Mobility?

[craggy maple]

oh neat, push stab is an instant heavy

[delicate shadow]

mobility, stability, hell you can dump ammo to an extent too

laspistols are very forgiving to roll

[vestal coyote]

Okay cool

[exotic portal]

Something like that?

[keen silo]

thats prolly the best roll

[ember yew]

be a man

slap that Ghost IV

https://tenor.com/view/rambo-first-blood-gif-23989356

[craggy maple]

Praise the emperor, it's raining knives ^('-')^

[ember yew]

also, shooting bosses with mk2 is kinda meh

i would put flak on it for general use

maulers body shots are pretty strong

this pistol erase them

and Ghost just turns you into a facetanking terminator

[frozen ibex]

I like unyielding + either maniac or flak.

Generally flak since maniac are weak to melee.

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/tolkien-lotr-hobbit-dwarf-thorin-gif-10823794

[gleaming swan]

Hey guys, whats the meta zealot build atm ?

[quaint verge]

Not dying and killing stuff?

[gleaming swan]

aye

[quaint verge]

Chainaxe is good

Momentum is great

[frozen ibex]

[royal flower]

combat axe for life

[quaint verge]

Hammer with slaughter+ thrust good

[cerulean pike]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-the-jerma985-dollhouse-that-yoinky-sploinky-dance-gif-1100649377889568604

[naive star]

Guess id want both of those blessings if i try Thammer? For sale on Melks

[tidal fern]

Why did my bullet get refunded?

[olive raven]

Thrust and Headtaker are both good

@naive star ^

I’d recommend taking thrust tbh but I usually never buy a melk unless it’s T4

[naive star]

Yeah im pondering if to get it or save my coins as i kinda wanna try combat knife before hammer (currently only got heavy sword)

[lean lark]

try the mk6 combat knife

[naive star]

And only one week worth of coins earned so far

[olive raven]

This

Aim for Uncanny/Precog for blessings

Uncanny/Riposte or Backstab or Smackdown, etc are all good too

[gleaming swan]

zBTW why MK3 knife instead of mk6 ?

[naive star]

So these two, makes sense

[olive raven]

Mk3 has better single target but Mk6 actually has some form of horde clear

So mk6 is better imo

[sinful maple]

my favourite

[olive raven]

Cause you can actually do something to a horde and have the insane multipliers on single target

[sinful maple]

what skill tree you run with rashad mk2 combat axe?

[olive raven]

Typically i run Immolation, chastise, momentum for it

Though that’s also just my go to build for most weapons

Usually take top mid (right side), top right (left side), then holy revenant to benediction and TWBS

then chastise, then momentum + the momentum on dodge

[gleaming swan]

are eviscerator/Chainsword that bad ?

[sinful maple]

think thats pretty much what im running

[sinful maple]

nah theyre pretty good man

chainsword on my vet is great

[gleaming swan]

i see everyone running around with knife or axe

as a zealot i mean

[sinful maple]

its fun to go zoom zoom

[fiery ingot]

as a zealot, what are my options to deal with mixed hordes and ragers packs?

[sinful maple]

i dont really encounter many axes in the wild tho

[olive raven]

They are by no means bad

[cobalt harness]

what weapons

[olive raven]

But they are by no means a Rashad or Heavy sword

Or crusher

[frozen ibex]

Flamer

[olive raven]

Kite, pull out a ranged or dodge n fight

[cobalt harness]

stab them

[frozen ibex]

[sinful maple]

being a zealot is option enough

[frozen ibex]

Stealth and run away.

[fiery ingot]

i tried making use of chastise the wicked to stagger them, but didnt give me much window to deal enough damage to wipe an entire mixed horde. at best, i took out 1 or 2 rager while there was still 5 or 7 on me. obviously i died, but im trying to understand if there are other ways to approach this other than just kite

[royal vortex]

the problem is rager swarms are basically some of the least interactive encounters in the game

if you have a weapon like crusher you can stagger them enough to fight them in melee

but when there's 5+ ragers it is almost always mandatory to just shoot them

push attack on rashad will stagger them and cleave ~2

[fiery ingot]

oh really?

im currently using rashad, because its my favorite weapon probably

[royal vortex]

the weapon special technically also staggers one but it is significantly less safe than the push attack

[fiery ingot]

i was just spamming light attacks like there were no tomorrow hoping they would all die, but the cleave wasnt enough

[royal vortex]

yea ur best bet is to try not to get surrounded and keep only a couple actually in melee range of you

push attack -> light light repeat is generally what u have to do

[frank night]

Do not speak to him until he has breakfast

[fiery ingot]

ah okok ill keep that in mind then. tyvm!

[night cypress]

Quick question; which combat shotgun variant is the go to; and ugh same for the chainaxe

[olive raven]

heavy sword can handle them quite easily tbh

[celest oasis]

Tac axe II with Headtaker and Decimator can stagger ragers with headshots, and cleaves through 2-3 every heavy attack.

only reason why i swapped over to it.

[fiery ingot]

damn tac axe

that sounds based

[celest oasis]

if you can see the rager-deathstack coming, ive seen people use the Flame shotgun with bleed on crit and scattershot to severely weaken them

but that means you need to have the space to pull it out and dump 2 special rounds into them before they reach the party.

[olive raven]

tbh just

Hit them

[fiery ingot]

dont think that is consistently reliable

[olive raven]

Or shoot them

You have two options and that’s it

[celest oasis]

other than that, grenades and chorus.

[olive raven]

Melee or shoot

[fiery ingot]

lol

[olive raven]

Pick your poison

[crisp plaza]

Does anyone feel like every ranged enemy is at an annoying distance

[olive raven]

Nah

[crisp plaza]

I’m getting shot by normal lasguns all the way from across the map and to my sides but I can’t reach them because I’m being piled on by ragers

[olive raven]

Just walk towards it and kill it

[crisp plaza]

Oh right I should’ve thought of that

[olive raven]

The only annoying ranged enemy is a sniper in an area we can’t access or usually see

Like in a literal enemy spawn area 10m from the ledge

[celest oasis]

Another way is via a sort of "fire and forget" build with MK. III knife, flesh tearer and uncanny/Mercy Killer.
2 crit headshots (Which come out FAST when you are in melee) and you have nearly maxed the bleed stacks on 1-2 ragers. By being mindful of your surroundings and such you can kite them via ridiculous good dodges, 9 bleedstacks on whatever enemy every crit, FotF every time your toughness goes down for a momentary 1.5 sec stun on enemies hit.
But this isnt as efficient as just shooting them, grenades or having a smite psyker on your team...

[olive raven]

or

[keen silo]

trauma is fine as blessing for crusher right?

[olive raven]

Just run Uncanny/Precog

[olive raven]

You really just want Skullcrusher and something else

[keen silo]

what do i change here

just the 2nd perk?

should i go carapace or maniac?
for this

[celest oasis]

Not gonna help you vs 5-7 ragers at once.
If you spend more than 2 seconds in melee against the rager pack, all of them have now started their attack animation and stays glued to your character.
If you are able to let the 16+ bleed stacks do most of the dmg, enabling you to focus on kiting, rather than staying in melee, wouldnt that be better than going uncanny/precog and being forced to engage in melee? No?

[ember yew]

evis is common too

all of them

from mk 2 to 15

iv rare tho (since its the worst, 13 basically a better version of it)

[barren wadi]

I am new here and looking for team mates to play with? What's the process? Should I just directly join any strike team vc?

[ember yew]

you go into your respective region channel and search/look/join there

or post

then proceed from there

[olive raven]

You’ll just get more overall benefit with Uncanny/Precog

[barren wadi]

Okay thanks

[olive raven]

You kill things more quickly, don’t need to wait things out for bleed, etc

Oh and

you have a knife

Which having that high a movement speed

Allows you to not get hit or if you do

It’s a minor dent to toughness

[celest oasis]

Yes, you will get overall more benefit along the games, but specifically for the rager scenario, it is not as effective as other builds, no?

[olive raven]

You don’t build anything for one specific scenario

[ember yew]

i would slap +maniac or +carapace on it and upped Skullcrusher to IV

[olive raven]

And bleed isnt more effective

As even with weapons that 1 tap dreg ragers

[keen silo]

i got the weapon for free, no skullcrusher 4
no other crusher on me

[olive raven]

Such as HS6, you often kite them and shoot

[ember yew]

then just do +maniac or +carapace whatever you hate the most (i would go with maniac)

and leave it till you get crusher IV

[celest oasis]

I thought we were replying to a guy who was asking for help vs ragers?

[ember yew]

or better wep statwise

[keen silo]

right

[celest oasis]

so i gave a build that helps good for solo-kiting hordes of ragers

[ember yew]

im just backpedal with laspistol mk2

ragers cant reach and you can just kill all of them

even swing animation wont hit

[celest oasis]

in the scenariof of soloing a rager pack, yes, bleed would be more efficient.

[blazing fossil]

why build melee around ragers, bring a kantreal and spam fire

[olive raven]

Again

[ember yew]

another easy way to deal with ragers is to stagger them with dash, which broke their swing animation

[olive raven]

A bleed knife isn’t the greatest weapon to use in that scenario

[ember yew]

and then you can fast-stagger them with melee

before they start swinging again

[olive raven]

and see this is intelligent

[blazing fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/rodeo-ball-game-soccer-gif-5800072

or use a crusher and be the bull

[olive raven]

You can break a ragers animation sorta easily

[ember yew]

crusher is funny ping pong

probably best weapon for memes

[olive raven]

It’s honestly

[ember yew]

the way you football bulwarks, crushers and ragers is hilarious

[olive raven]

One of the best weapons

For zealot

Like the top 3 weapons rn are Rashad, Heavy Sword and Crusher

[blazing fossil]

crusher, rashad, HS9 are my fav

[olive raven]

hs6 better tbh

[blazing fossil]

for the vertical strikedown?

[olive raven]

Best elite TTK in game

Clears rager packs in only a few swings

[celest oasis]

heavy sword too low carapace dmg tho

[blazing fossil]

dreg ragers, scab ragers no tho

[olive raven]

Versus the 9 taking i think roughly twice the swings

[celest oasis]

only thing holding it back from SSS+ tier

[olive raven]

See the fun thing is

Special->Heavy

[blazing fossil]

bring revolver for crushers

[ember yew]

well thats to be complemented with ranged weapon also

[olive raven]

Crushers can’t touch you when they are staggered 24/7

[ember yew]

^ or use dash + damage bonus for any ranged wep

one dash allows to kill 2 crushers reliably

2 dashes = 4 crushers

[olive raven]

Making well-rounded builds capable of handling all scenarios is the important thing

[ember yew]

if teammates damage mixed in - 7+ crushers

[olive raven]

Like yea heavy sword is weaker versus bosses & carapace

But it dominates everything else

And is still effective against the singular carapace enemy

As it has stagger

But you complement it with as Evan said

A ranged weapon

[celest oasis]

mhm

fair point

i am still suck in the VT2 mindset of ranged=specials melee=everything else

[ember yew]

its still kinda like this

unless you are a veteran

and got either shitload of ammo build

or infinite ammo lasgun

[lavish flame]

Imagine not stabbing people to death with ur lasgun instead

[fiery ingot]

tyty

[lean lark]

you run bolter with it

[vestal coyote]

What do we think of this thing

Not counting that it's an ironhelm against it

[olive raven]

Pretty good

8.5/10

Damage is a bit low but overall it’s good

[spare dome]

https://clips.twitch.tv/InventiveSecretiveDragonfruitPipeHype-gzWMP9hcEaF38Kxt

[olive raven]

I mean prolly 9/10 cuz Jesus fuck thrust IV is sexy

[timid mortar]

Is there any specific recommended weapons for a 'martyrdom' build?
It says it wants 3 stacks.. means I have to be 3 wounds down, right?

[olive raven]

I mean

Anything?

[inner crane]

not really

use anything

[olive raven]

Most common stuff is usually stuff without great weak point/finesse or crit

I see a lot of chain stuff for martyr

Like evis

[inner crane]

yup

[olive raven]

But anything works

[timid mortar]

If I need 3x stacks of martyrdom, I need to get extra wound curiors then?

[olive raven]

Usually.

The typical martyr build is

3x wound curios with 3x Tough 3x HP 3x Gunner Res perks

[inner crane]

take 2 wound curios and 1 toughness curio is my suggestion

and with whatever leidig says

[brazen linden]

is being a wound stacking zealot viable for max melee attack speed on a heavy sword/ heavy eviscerator

[gentle wagon]

momentem can give you up to 20% mart build can do up to 24%

hit all the nodes, you can get a speed boost with the furry of the faithful ability

Each has its own advantage

[hollow mantle]

Going crit will give you a near instant refresh on your cool down when fury of the faithful into a dense horde for heavy sword

[fleet zealot]

Momentum gives bonuses to ranged weapons

[gentle wagon]

Yeah, its hard not to go crit anymore. The cooldown reduction is bonkers

[fleet zealot]

Martyrdom gives toughness DR

Ehh, i dont feel an offensive martyrdom even needs cdr with 2 charges

[gentle wagon]

Momentum does, damage, attack speed melee and ranged, 1% per stack, if i read correctly

for sure, thats just for max attack speed and only considering that

[brazen linden]

how fast does momentum stack tho?

is it based on the time your moving? or the distance you have moved?

[hollow mantle]

you wont be at max stacks very often unless you are playing a hit and run shroudfield style

[brazen linden]

ah, i wanted to take Fury

[hollow mantle]

but its great when you do get it off. Huge dps boost

[gentle wagon]

Rather slow imo. I only use it wit the dodge feet. If you get in the horde i constantly have 20 stacks with a knife

[hollow mantle]

yeah it works well with knife

[gentle wagon]

but yeah, crit cooldown reduction on corus with prettch much anything as been my go to lately

[fleet zealot]

Martyrdom stacks attack speed

It’s an attached talent to it

[brazen linden]

wanted to try Fury of the Faithful into Martyrdom

[hollow mantle]

going crit and refunding your fury of the faithful often will get you that 20% attack speed a lot of the time too. If you are constantly in melee getting your ult back every 10 seconds isnt unreasonable especially with a high cleave weapon

[gentle wagon]

solid build too. Has potentially some of the higest base damage output if youre at max wounds

[hollow mantle]

added benefit of giving you extra thp and getting you where you need to be to answer disablers, threats, or just making some distance

er, toughness, not thp

[gentle wagon]

Yup, the new chainsword refreshes it in almost in one horde swing with shred and a crit build

[hollow mantle]

Very nice. Could swap flak to unyielding if you want to delete bosses better but more all around soild as is. bummer about the specialist perk, but getting a perfect weapon is such an ask in this game x.x

[gentle wagon]

I play way too much and today, after over a year I finally got thrust 4 for hammers. it really is random

you have to go with... eh its pretty good or you go nuts

[hollow mantle]

Yeah if you play a lot you can kind of force the RNG but the absolute absurd amount of dockets and plasteel you have to dump into hadron and brunt to get there is insane

[gentle wagon]

Yeah if you want to roll a 380 youre going to have a bad day

[fading vale]

the only reason I have thrust 4 is melk, and I've upgraded hundreds of hammers 🙂

[gentle wagon]

I finally assembled the perfect hammer... and its not what it used to be

[hollow mantle]

I have half a dozen heavy swords and knives in my inventory that are all in that realm of good but not perfect and I dont think getting the numbers where I want them to be will make a single bit of difference in how my build is playing... But its serious white whale syndrome at this point. I just want it to have it so my sword looks cool with all the numbers in the right place

[fading vale]

hammer is quite good now

just kinda struggles versus big elite packs particularly ragers

[gentle wagon]

It just feels so slow. I have used the knife too long.

[fading vale]

that and the fact you can't one shot crushers without F or martyrdom + a bunch of other buffs

but a trusty little shovel can one shot them

.....

[frank night]

Post steve

[fading vale]

he's busy yelling at me

[lusty turtle]

good

[fading vale]

cause he wants to be a fatass

and eat more

[frank night]

It is xmas

[fading vale]

maybe todays melk will be all 550s

can we get crushers wearing Santa hats

and silently overheading with candycanes

[ember yew]

melk gave me Hand Cannon IV ~~for ~~2k tokens as a gift today for Rev mk2

[fading vale]

I mean melk purchases are basically free anyways lol

[olive raven]

Perfect doesn’t matter

[faint marsh]

what should i throw on this?

[ember yew]

garbage bin

[faint marsh]

over

[olive raven]

Eh swap the blessings to make it usable

Perfect strike to rampage, wrath to savage sweep to crit

[faint marsh]

thank you!

i’m gonna just roll another and hope lol

[ember yew]

i still suggest garbage bin unless you dont have anything to wield

[faint marsh]

oh i’m good with knife main but i just wanna try out new weapons lol

will just roll for another

[ember yew]

take your time, no need to rush

[olive raven]

I mean

The evis gets its power from blessings

Sure +25% to flakiac is nice

[inner crane]

Tigrus Mk II? garbage bin
Tigrus Mk XV supremacy

[faint marsh]

the perks are dumped though lol

[olive raven]

But end of day it isn’t needed

Nah

[faint marsh]

like it just could be a lot better

[olive raven]

Elites is a good perk

It’s just not great

Things don’t need to be perfect to be good

[ember yew]

thats why i asked (a bit later tho) if hes desperate or not

since he's not

garbage bin it is

[olive raven]

eh sometimes gambling a ton ain’t worth

[inner crane]

https://tenor.com/view/pitch-trash-toss-garbage-throw-gif-12131306

[olive raven]

it’s w/e tho

[ember yew]

yeah

just give me red gear fartshart

its time

all 80

[still quartz]

inb4 Red Gear but Fatshark randomizes it further by just maxing one random stat out to 100

Red Gear ruined

[ember yew]

im sure they'l do something

or it will be 0.01% droprate

only from Maelstrom Damnation missions

and 5 years later it will be available in crafting

[sturdy cypress]

inb4 they add trading with premium currency

but it's a lot shittier than warframe

[ember yew]

this aint warframe

but i see what you did there

wts mk15 - IV x4 5000

[sturdy cypress]

he's true, you know!

[hollow mantle]

I completely agree. But the fact that its possible means that I am still going to try and get it. Its more about aesthetics at that point than anything else

[ember yew]

satisfying your inner completionist perfectionist

[hollow mantle]

youd think that they would eventually add another tier of items to make those 80 stats into 100's. Or some kind of upgrade to get one stat higher or something. It just looks like its built with more in mind but who knows

[ember yew]

a new tier is inevitable i guess, but not anytime soon

maybe in 2025

and the stats being at 80 is really strange yeah

so they could also try the 100s

[blazing fossil]

i bet next tier will go up to 90, and let you get 3 perks

[ember yew]

3 perks is an overkill tbh

also in Vermintide they pretty much used same thing

2+2

[blazing fossil]

its powercreep, i bet we get something higher than damnation too

[ember yew]

probably something Cataclysm VT level

where a basic trashmob will almost oneshot you

[ripe heron]

Overclocking, upscaling one stat but downscaling another

[ember yew]

Chaos Darktide Wastes when

[hollow mantle]

Warp Wastes

[ember yew]

hired

[ripe heron]

Underhive

[ember yew]

and lets hope they wont pull something like Winds of Magic here

while idea isnt bad

making something only for 4-premade teams is meh

that you can't even continue with pugs

[blazing fossil]

copy deep dives from DRG

a series of 3 VH missions

[balmy sinew]

what do you expect from a good flamer?

[vestal coyote]

Fire

[balmy sinew]

thanks you, Sir Sherlockus

lol

[hollow mantle]

Hopefully a time machine to go back to when it was op

before they overnerfed it

[balmy sinew]

if they bring back ammo, i'd be happy

not bad..... right?...... right??

[hollow mantle]

looks fine, but carapace damage is worth swapping

[balmy sinew]

yeah, that's on the list the moment I saw it

[hollow mantle]

it doesnt do dick to carapace even with the ult armor thing

anymore

could just swap both perks to unyielding and unarmored or flak or something. or leave the reload and keep one swap open for the future

[balmy sinew]

I was thinking about infested+Flak

[vocal pulsar]

flamer is still really good

[hollow mantle]

Its such a niche thing though. you only need one person out of four to have a good melee option for clearing horde for the flamer to be useless

[vocal pulsar]

i never really felt the nerf

[vocal pulsar]

nah, dont put infested

flamer already deletes infested

[balmy sinew]

wow.... dmg went from 15 to 17 thanks to +25 carapace

[vocal pulsar]

put elite/maniac/carapace

carapace is nice for chastizing

[hollow mantle]

yeah youll want to get a good number of burn stacks on the crushers before you ult

then it will chunk them down

[vocal pulsar]

if you didnt know, the flamer strat is to set a group of elites on fire a bit, then chastise into the elites, whilst still burning them

[hollow mantle]

it used to delete them with half of a clip/can of ammo with that method

now it doesn't kill them

yeah you used to be able to delete entire rooms like that. Put on your zealot wheelies and watch the kill feed fill with your glory. Everything died

[stray summit]

tfw when you wake up on christmas but your family members are still sleeping so you gotta give them a second to get the christmas cheer going

[balmy sinew]

so... flak+elite/maniac the usual?

I mainly use thunder hammer so my ult is sneaky bonk

but this way I can change to cara if I want to chastise

[vocal pulsar]

flamer without chastise is ehhhh

chastise is what makes it shine

[hollow mantle]

yeah

youd probably be better off with a more mobility focused ranged weapon for that

shredder autopistol, revolver, or even an agri braced auto. Not as mobile as the autopistol but it does more damage.

[ashen prairie]

anyone got tips for using the devils claw? Great horde killer and trolls ragers but once maulers and crushers spawn I feel like the best course of action is to just go somewhere else.

[blazing fossil]

take revolver or bolter

[hollow mantle]

bring a gun that can deal with them. the agri revolver can do well with them

[vocal pulsar]

get a gun that can delete crushers and maulers

[hollow mantle]

its the same if you take heavy sword

[blazing fossil]

but beware of the bolter, it takes 10 years to pull it out, and then for some reason you have to smack its ass

[hollow mantle]

yeah. the bolter is in a sad spot right now

[blazing fossil]

its like the helbores for vet, everytime you equip it, you have to fiddle with a safety or some shit

[ashen prairie]

thanks

[vocal pulsar]

i still love the bolter

[hollow mantle]

Same. I have some good ones from the first few months of the game that I adore. I just wish it did a bit more damage or had more ammo for what it does now. Feels like everything else got better and it just stayed the same

[keen silo]

i find it hard to aim with the bolter
its ironsight confuses my vision in the dark
any way to work around that?

[inner crane]

https://discord.com/channels/1048312349867646996/1168063453416669284

[ashen prairie]

hipfire magdump

[keen silo]

I mean i want to snipe enemies from afar

and hipfire also has so much recoil

[keen silo]

is that euphemism for skill issue 😭

cuz its a locked channel for me

[inner crane]

the weapon customization mod allows you to have a scope

[rigid trellis]

yes

[hollow mantle]

its a different discord server

[keen silo]

Ohh

[hollow mantle]

the bolter is just going to be bad for that on zealot I think

practice with throwing knives and dominate the snipers

[inner crane]

Join the Darktide Modders server then select the weapon customization channel

[keen silo]

i tried using custom crosshair
but its weird
aiming with the crosshair does not actually work for that lol

[blazing fossil]

I wish the Kant xhair changes when you have fire slug

the other shotguns change theirs

[keen silo]

u can set that in the crosshair mod

[blazing fossil]

ill have to get that

[ashen prairie]

the swap time really hurts bolter on zealot. compare that to the revolvers you pull out and pop a special in the time a meele mob is staggered by a push

[hollow mantle]

yeah the agri revolver will delete a crusher in the time it takes to get the bolter ready to fire

sadness

[ornate bone]

Merry Axemass cunts

[sturdy cypress]

woah you can't say that! (the word "axem*ss" has the a-word in it)

[native cargo]

Its Merry SANGUINALA YOU HERETICS

Idk who this "Christmas" is

[ashen prairie]

probably some slaanesh thing. Just purge and move on.

[copper hawk]

Mighry ribmas

[fiery ingot]

is shred worth it on a martyrdom rashad?

[opaque hinge]

nope

headtakjer or Deci

[fiery ingot]

aw...thought it would be good for the cdr on crit node

[opaque hinge]

it doesn't proc enough, tried it

[celest oasis]

Rashad is too slow and not enough finesse to justify shred

[opaque hinge]

well it is a finesse axe, but still too slow

[fiery ingot]

so are any of the other 2 cdr nodes worth for rashad?

[opaque hinge]

I have found headtaker just does the job better, there are better weapons to proc crit

[copper hawk]

Yah

What they said

[keen silo]

for dclaw blessings would be rampage+ssweep right?

[copper hawk]

Too slow to justify shred

It benefits more from brutal momentum and decimator/headtaker

For dclaw, up to you rlly

Rampage and sav sweep for the most part

[fiery ingot]

shred is good for dclaw

dclaw 4

[copper hawk]

I run a sav sweep and shred dclaw

You dont rlly need it honestly

Shred I mean

W a finesse stat and runnin the crit on bleed nodes

W piety, etc

You'll crit around every other attacks when ur in pious mode

With or w o shred

My inf chastise loadout uses this sorta approach

[fiery ingot]

wait finesse acts as crit chance?

[vestal coyote]

What do you guys think? Could this be made into something?

[copper hawk]

Ye

Finesse is crit/weakspot damage

[fiery ingot]

fml

[keen silo]

man i got mid rolls

[copper hawk]

As well as swing speed of ur weapon

[celest oasis]

Rashad has like 1.25 multiplier, vs knife 1.5...2.5 and tac axe 1.25...1.75

[celest oasis]

So not high enough to be worth

[fiery ingot]

why is it not explained at the pop up

[copper hawk]

A lot of stuff isn't

[keen silo]

hopefully last blessing is good

[copper hawk]

Like Rampage, for example

It says it increases damage

But it also increases Power

... which isn't on the tooltip

Womp womp

[fiery ingot]

it doesnt say crit chance, only crit power, which i assumed it was crit damage and stagger

[copper hawk]

The rot consumes

[fiery ingot]

fuck dude

so its still worth it to run the crit cdr node despite the keystone on a rashad right?

[celest oasis]

Was fixed a patch ago, now its only dmg

[keen silo]

there was a low visibility mission
but man the fps was TERRIBLE
i could not playpast 10 fps

[opaque hinge]

lotta points to get that CDR

[vestal coyote]

god I hate hadron so so much

[copper hawk]

SD !

Sad*

[royal vortex]

u have this backwards actually

[copper hawk]

Blarghm

Low CC

[royal vortex]

the bug was it applied x% power and then 50% damage

and they removed the unlisted damage increase

[copper hawk]

I think CC rlly only affects swing speed

Iirc

Josho is here though

He's an irl Tech Priest for this wretched bideo game

[royal vortex]

cc is aspd and a very mysterious "cleave stagger distribution"

[celest oasis]

Let me find the damn patchnotes

[royal vortex]

that second part does basically nothing of importance i don't think u would notice a difference

[copper hawk]

He'll serenade u w the binharic chants in Cant Mechanicus necessary to reveal the Omnissiah's will (buggy RoundFish code)

Skitarii or Technomat archetype when..

[fiery ingot]

how is rashad compared to new evis in a martyrdom build?

[royal vortex]

nothing beats rashad

[keen silo]

even at horde clear?

[fiery ingot]

i like those words

[opaque hinge]

Rashad 4 life 😄

[fiery ingot]

i so much love rashad

[keen silo]

man y'all hyping the wep up
gotta get one

[royal vortex]

newvis is target capped at 4 and doesn't always os trash

[vestal coyote]

Yeah i thought as much

[balmy kelp]

Yesterday I rolled a fresh Rashad with brutal momentum and uh, the crit one. Ran right-side Zealot tree. Collected loot.

[fiery ingot]

i just dont get the zealot loadouts and key nodes yet

[royal vortex]

rashad is target capped at 4 and always os trash

(so long as you have headtaker or other damage boosts up)

[vestal coyote]

Man, the four enemy cap thing sucks

[copper hawk]

Recommend swappin shred for Ramp or HT

[native cargo]

crusher is bae

[copper hawk]

Crusher is stimky

[royal vortex]

it doesn't matter that much because most ppl would lightspam oldvis

[copper hawk]

Epil rat

Ill splat u

[royal vortex]

and that also has a target cap of 4 on everything outside of the h1

[keen silo]

i had a lot of fun using crusher

especially against carapace

[fiery ingot]

so rashad > new evisc then?

does anyone have a rashad martyrdom loadout that i could grab?

[keen silo]

new evisc is more braindead, from what i can deduce

[copper hawk]

I do

[hushed knoll]

Merry Christmas everyone OwO

[keen silo]

same to you

[copper hawk]

Miry crogmas

[royal vortex]

the movesets are mostly identical

[hushed knoll]

Hi Japan

[native cargo]

Heretic

Its Sanguinala

[royal vortex]

horizontal/diagonal (l4 on newvis is a diagonal starting from bottom left, lol) lights, strikedown heavies

[keen silo]

ohh
which mark rashad u guys talking about?

[royal vortex]

hi stan

[native cargo]

and you mfers be referencing this

Christmsa

[fiery ingot]

i liked how new evis move set looks a lot like executioner sword from vermintide 2

[royal vortex]

rashad is a caxe variant, theres only 1

[balmy kelp]

There's only one Rashad

[vestal coyote]

I don't like how slow the new evis is

That's what really bugs me

it feels like it should hit harder for that slow of a swing

[royal vortex]

my favorite part of new evis is the push attack because it actually does something

instead of just being a light that costs stamina

[vestal coyote]

YEah the stab is great

[copper hawk]

The world is healing

[royal vortex]

ppl call it shit and im like, what???

[vestal coyote]

It also stuns!

[royal vortex]

it staggers whatever it gets the shred tick on

[vestal coyote]

People don't know a good thing when they see it

[royal vortex]

which is hugely valuable when u get a random rager in a horde

[copper hawk]

It's just soooo sloooow

[keen silo]

good base?

[copper hawk]

Sure

[fiery ingot]

may i see it?

[royal vortex]

penetration is a bit sad but it'll work until u get a better one

[copper hawk]

Im gonna take a shower

Just got off shift

[keen silo]

ill just roll on a good one

[copper hawk]

Ill hop on Snoytide and take a screencap of it for you

Gimme like

[fiery ingot]

dont take a shower

[copper hawk]

Idk 10 mins

[keen silo]

everything 70%+?

[fiery ingot]

shower are for people who have life

[royal vortex]

generally 75%+ for rashad

iirc

except mob ofc

[balmy kelp]

Are you saying that because you like pristine 80-bars, or because there's actually a meaningful breakpoint at higher pene?

[royal vortex]

for bruisers at least iirc

it doesn't matter quite as much if u run smth like marty

[native cargo]

[keen silo]

man why is zarona literally best range

makes no sense

its better than a literal boltgun

[royal vortex]

its balanced that way because it has a similar reload and less magsize/ammo

if it had weaker per-shot damage than a bolter (which it used to) you have literally no reason to use a revolver

which was the case for much of dt's history

[native cargo]

Cowboy > highly geared reject

[keen silo]

cowboy= agri stubby

[fleet zealot]

Weapon balance is always gonna be in a weird spot

That is the price we pay for having so many options

Like ok you have vraks7, bolter, agri shotgun, and revolver

Add in on vet the helbores

[uneven meteor]

Can the zealot one shot a deamon host on damnation with the right build?

[ember yew]

yes

and any normal boss

[fiery ingot]

wait what

thats poggers

[hollow mantle]

you sacrifice a lot for it

[ember yew]

thats get boring quickly

since outside of that

you will be spamming

2 melee heavy attacks

like 24/7

[fiery ingot]

oh

that really doesnt sound too great

[ember yew]

so while its strong

its also extremely boring

[fiery ingot]

i assume the horde clear isnt good then?

[ember yew]

tho Hammer MK IV

is a bit more fun

[hollow mantle]

you knock shit around a lot

but you dont kill much compared to other weapons

[ember yew]

horde clear is alright, but yeah

[balmy kelp]

Horde clear is slower than normal, but control is okay if you learn the timing

[fiery ingot]

ohh i see i see

is that the ironhelm one?

[next flare]

Chainaxe

[fiery ingot]

ahhh

[thorny folio]

any idea ho to make it better?

[next flare]

Better damage and shredder

[ember yew]

depends of what do you want from it

you can replace 2 lines with +maniac +flak or +carapace

or you can replace Bloodletter with either Headtaker or Thrust

[next flare]

@ember yew crushers are carapace right?

[ember yew]

yes

but you need to manually check your damage

[thorny folio]

carapace sounds the way 2 go
id:guide

[ember yew]

before trying it

[fleet zealot]

Elites might be better

Than carapace

Id test maulers and crushers

[next flare]

Got it

[thorny folio]

it was a good role reguardless

im happy

ty for help guys

[ember yew]

yw

[night cypress]

Ngl im really enjoying Knife crit for zealot

specially with all the perks for it

im tempted to try BOF

[exotic portal]

Dodging around a crusher like a christmas tree

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-dance-pepe-cool-gif-15777418

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-cant-touch-this-dodge-gif-5952296

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ree-bleach-angry-gif-12860089

https://tenor.com/view/saitama-one-punch-man-hammer-gif-19956476

uff

[regal geode]

finally got surgical 4, now my weapon is finished

[balmy kelp]

Nice! (Sorry about the weak spot damage, oof.)

[regal geode]

it is not the best, but at least not useless for this weapon

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/elijah-wood-frodo-terrific-meme-gif-11001373

[balmy kelp]

Well sorry assuming they never changed it. (Does it still only increase the weak spot bonus damage? LIke if a weak spot is 120 and a normal hit 100 it adds 8% to the 20 damage, resulting in +1.6 dmg?)

[exotic portal]

jesus christ, got the new one with surgical

[balmy kelp]

Yeah, weakspot dmg or not, your roll is a beast.

[exotic portal]

Real luck would probally be with elite 4

[regal geode]

I also got it on the new one, then I trashed it and put it on this one

[exotic portal]

I can't just trash it.

https://tenor.com/view/rep-gif-9339819

waiting for that 10x stack before mag dumping into a reload

it's mad.

[balmy kelp]

Seems like it'd feel like Cassidy's ult a bit

[regal geode]

crit zealot is so much fun though, I feel invicible inside of hordes, crazy fun

[balmy kelp]

What zealot build DOESN'T feel that way?

[keen silo]

idk why i always get shit rolls

fucking impact on my blade

[naive star]

I guess i should grab both of those blessings in store

[thorny folio]

what was the upgrade`?

like stats

[exotic portal]

Thammer build without, punisment talent.

not staggering maulers

https://tenor.com/view/spanish-man-mdr-sing-gif-7692927

[fading vale]

hammer doesn't take punishment though

and it staggers maulers without punishment

[balmy kelp]

Well sure you can intentionally build bad and feel vulnerable in a horde.

[exotic portal]

up to a cleave point

or is that messed up?

[balmy kelp]

I'm just saying if you play to each keystone's strengths, you'll feel invincible

[exotic portal]

bad compensation?

[fading vale]

it's all the ones you hit, as long as you have thrust and headtaker/slaughterer

[regal geode]

I cant use Thammer anymore since they released the new eviscerator. One shotting enemys is fun and all, but the new eviscerator feels so good

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/war-hammer-hammer-gif-25704599

yup, slow.

[fading vale]

punishment does 1 major thing, staggers attacking ragers

for hammer that is

[exotic portal]

Gotta find a chaos spawn to test it on

https://tenor.com/view/batman-tentacles-gif-12919236

[keen silo]

use the mod for spawning bosses in psykh

[exotic portal]

Not dev implimented.

[keen silo]

devs support mods

[exotic portal]

Ya'll keep track then, while i finish the mission.

[fiery ingot]

do crusher lose breakpoint without either maniac or flak perk?

on non-rager enemies that is

[fading vale]

afaik there aren't any hugely important breakpoints on crusher

and you can take flak maniac unyielding cara or elites

[fiery ingot]

ty

[olive raven]

Yea it’s more just to buff crusher damage

[terse igloo]

hadron agrees, I've been a good varlet.

[faint marsh]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aef0dcb-255f-4149-aba8-d8c19243f4e8/evelyns-zealot?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

my current build :^)

very fun to use, very useful for revives and clutch moments. looks really funny when you join a lobby

[onyx solar]

I always wonder if the clutch potential we bring to the table is worth the loss of horde clear and utility

I love that build don't get me wrong, but yeah

[faint marsh]

i find as long as i dodge spam i can hordeclear alone but it’s nowhere near as efficient, definitely dropping hordeclear for mobility here

single target crit damage mostly with like a tiny bit of making hordeclesr easier for everyone else as a treat

[onyx solar]

I run a Momentum variant though, that power up is so good, especially since you build up stacks by dodging as well

[ember yew]

i personally would go like this

max smack

gay dodge

Can also replace Swift with Shield of Contempt

[faint marsh]

haven’t really tried the dash forward one since a lot of my damage comes from backstabbing and whatnot

[ember yew]

try a random one sometime

[faint marsh]

also i was running the momentum build earlier and only noticed a big difference when i was running the autogun. aside from that it felt like a nerf to the crit damage tbh

[ember yew]

to get a feel

[faint marsh]

tried out using the crusher today and i didn’t like it very much

[exotic portal]

No love tap?

[faint marsh]

it’s funny to bonk the heretics like softballs but other than the tactile sensation i didn’t really enjoy it

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cheems-bonk-doge-celestev69-gif-24399197

[faint marsh]

i also tried the evis but it doesn’t move as fast as i’d like

cadia 18 chsword seems better for what i run

[ember yew]

darn thats a new one

[faint marsh]

i wanna give the bolter a shot but i can’t roll one that’s usable. i rolled a 380 and of course it tanked on damage

[ember yew]

tho i just run a few MK15 games today

as always while its not fast

Momentum (weapon perk) makes its sustain crazy

im still trying to roll new one

so far i got one with BT4 locked

one with Momentum locked

i want a new one where i can slap Ravage + Savage Sweep (and replace it with Shred if i didnt like it)

[exotic portal]

punishments kinda a need

don't wanna stagger the cleave cause of one mauler

[shy river]

Doing Mk 15 heavy eviscerator with momentum blessing and max swing speed from fury of the faithful+martyrdom tree has let me enter a lot of very unwise situations and come out just fine, recommend if you just wanna blend mixed hordes into fine paste

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-frustration-史迪奇-gif-4802586

[ember yew]

Currently trying to roll some good Wound Curious to be even more braindead in wound build

[exotic portal]

uninteruptable

like the power up on the mace, stops at one hit

[ember yew]

but rn still running crit

[exotic portal]

i call bullshit

just got wiped cause of some elites

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-honor-funeral-fallen-soldier-line-of-duty-gif-10102324

[exotic portal]

least the cleave on a dagger won't stagger

[ember yew]

press f

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-funeral-40k-warhammer40k-coffin-dance-moves-gif-17167991

[ember yew]

speaking of press f

2 games in a row

my amazing teammate

s

detonated the barrel so i break out new Guiness record flying

two times in a row

it was still a win tho both cases

but try and convince me it was not intentional

tldr teammates are your worst enemies

[shy river]

My favorite missions are where I haven't gone down yet and all my teammates are going down repeatedly then someone blows up a barrel near me during a horde and then I just fall down a pit

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-michael-flashgitz-serious-face-gif-27623456

[blazing fossil]

joining auric missions mid game scare me

[whole vapor]

Just assume you’re joining a shit show

[onyx solar]

if you load in and you aren't a split second from dying, it's a good day

[keen silo]

whats the mod that loads psych and mourningstar faster?

[hushed agate]

Three people downed and a full health plague ogryn

[onyx solar]

darkcache, i think

[royal vortex]

i loaded into a regular intensity shock troop gauntlet before the auric board was a thing, had 1 wound and everyone else was dead on vet

hell of a game

there was a small child constantly breathing into the microphone and i never had the downtime to mute him

[fiery ingot]

lmao

[royal vortex]

he got louder when the game got more intense

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-4119248863188010057

[royal vortex]

so when a bunch of shit was on the screen my ears were transported to a wind tunnel

[fiery ingot]

im dead

[royal vortex]

thankfully this was pre-nerf unwavering focus bolter vet so i just larped as a space marine until we won

he died at the finale of smelter and was very mad when we left without him

[vapid mirage]

Who cares?

[onyx solar]

found him

[vapid mirage]

Unlike in vt2, you don't even get less xp

[exotic portal]

reminds me of settlers, old graphics

[royal vortex]

given how young he sounded i don't think he played vt2

[vapid mirage]

The boardgame?

[exotic portal]

no

city skyline

https://tenor.com/view/spanish-man-mdr-sing-gif-7692927

[copper hawk]

@fiery ingotsrry 4 late

here we go

[fallen drum]

So, melk had a christmass gift for me,

[royal vortex]

pog

[fallen drum]

should I just switch out both perks? or take shattering as a new blessing and live with having a sub optimal perk

[copper hawk]

@fiery ingot

[royal vortex]

shattering is 4 stacks of 2.5% brittleness at t4 (half of what the tooltip says), i'd just swap both perks

[copper hawk]

Probz not a good loadout

But this is just generally what I use for Martydom

On like

Anything

I don't generally run Martydom

Like... ever

So take this w a grain of salt

[native cargo]

You smell of shampoo and soap

disgusting

[copper hawk]

The Rashad build I use, I use w momentum

Troo !

I love Budha Bar..

Fav soap brand..

[native cargo]

Also I don't use marytr builds so I'll leave it to the nerdssss

[copper hawk]

Zame

!

[royal vortex]

inexorable judgement is the only zealot keystone

[frozen glen]

so so true

[left iron]

Goddamn i hate when the poxbursters manifest out of thin air right next to you

At first i thought im just dumb and didnt hear it

But it wasnt there

[royal vortex]

f

[frozen glen]

u just have grandpa reaction time now

[naive star]

I installed that "show enemies on screen" mod

[left iron]

True

I am become Arco levels of reactions

[copper hawk]

More proof that the game just spawns shit just barely out of sight

[royal vortex]

out of sight?

https://streamable.com/pb4e7h

[rustic lagoon]

Poxbursters when you have to help up your glass-cannon Psyker for the 5th time.

[copper hawk]

Blocked

Knife user

[native cargo]

This kinda behavior

[copper hawk]

[native cargo]

no knife speedruns

[copper hawk]

Another day ... another slay

[native cargo]

sorry josho

[copper hawk]

Period igggg

💅 ✨

[royal vortex]

the first time i touched it in over a thousand hours i had to solo clutch for 10 mins

[copper hawk]

Erm?

Sweaty?

Probz cuz u used the knife ?????

[left iron]

I wonder what lead to that

[royal vortex]

it was in a premade with ppl who arent awful

not my fault

[left iron]

Surely

[frozen glen]

if ur premade was decent then surely the knife user wasnt the problem

[copper hawk]

Knife 👏 Users 👏 Need 👏 God 👏 FR 👏

[royal vortex]

unless ur saying mankar is worse than me at the game

in which case thank u

[left iron]

With the amount of time you've sank into the game, you'd better hope you're better than most people

[royal vortex]

TRUE

[copper hawk]

I've spent

An ungodly amount of money on friends this Crimas

[royal vortex]

at least im not one of those dudes with 1k truelevels who just SUCK

[copper hawk]

My fav capitalist holiday

[left iron]

Yeah you're a 500 bozo who sucks

[royal vortex]

so rude

[left iron]

Truth is oftentimes painful

[fiery ingot]

thankie

[blazing fossil]

worth trying for a godroll or is this good enough?

[fiery ingot]

nah 380 or nothing

[blazing fossil]

lul 379

[ember yew]

you are set

[copper hawk]

Looks good 2 me

Then again idk

I've only ever used the IX

Ever since the closed beta

[deft garnet]

Merry christmas zealot chat

[blazing fossil]

i wonder if I should switch maniac to unarmored

[clever rover]

Merry Christmas!!! Hope everyone’s covered in plenty of heretic blood today!!!

[ember yew]

🍖

[blazing fossil]

since this thing does crazy maniac damage already

[sharp zodiac]

Bloody pissmas miracle

[copper hawk]

[ember yew]

you can use this amazing link

https://imgur.com/a/AR0Nxo4

and choose who you hate the most

tho check if you still oneshot maniacs without +25%

[safe tusk]

Never

[fiery ingot]

where should i stick this

[deft garnet]

Apply crusher to heretics face

Thats what I would do

[rustic lagoon]

Up Nurgle's ass.

[deft garnet]

Nurgle would probably like that

Seems like that kinda guy

[left iron]

Thats Slaanesh

[deft garnet]

Nurgle gotta enjoy something too

Seems right up his alley

[sharp zodiac]

It's just have to be dirtier

[median steeple]

Merry crimis fellow freaks

[copper hawk]

HATE YOU

Hi :3c

Snoodle..

Miry crimaz..

Did u get ur gifts yet

[rustic lagoon]

Merry Sanguinala!

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925855860557746267/1148583910691836006/JMYS0W5RDOL7U41RPH.gif

[median steeple]

Yeah I got a good night finally

[copper hawk]

https://fixupx.com/zoooones/status/1738972322172915856?s=20

[rustic lagoon]

What heresy is this...

[sharp zodiac]

I got a coffee for Christmas

Only to immediately drop it

[rustic lagoon]

[fiery ingot]

is collateral important for autopistol?

[ember yew]

laspistol?

no

[vocal pulsar]

lol

he said autopistol

not las pistol

las pistol doesnt even have colat stat

[ember yew]

is there even an autopistol

[vocal pulsar]

lmao

[fading vale]

what

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-never-heard-of-it-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20290430

[sharp zodiac]

Yes

(I made it up)

[north sedge]

Revolver?

[ember yew]

oh darn

[fading vale]

nice laspistol

[ember yew]

forgot this thing existed, i even got good rolled one

still it will be left on the shelf

[fading vale]

yeah rn autopistol doesn't really have much of a place

relative to other guns

[ember yew]

who needs this when you have Laspistol

powercreep at its finest

[fading vale]

it used to be by far one of the strongest though lol

[north sedge]

I would rather use autopistol (because i don't have to destroy my finger to fire it)

[ember yew]

i remember Glaive being my favorite weapon for Elf, then Fartshart came and said its too much

now i havent used it for like 2.5+ years

[fading vale]

pinning fire used to be 100% power, and none of the other guns were in buffed state or had buffed ammo

[ember yew]

fullauto will save your life

[fading vale]

and enemy health was lower

[ember yew]

unless on a console

Xbox console users cant use mods right?

[north sedge]

They cannot

[fading vale]

peasants can't use mods no

[ember yew]

sadlife

[north sedge]

And i can't be bothered to use that mod

[ember yew]

but you dont need to configure it

[fading vale]

ye I ain't gonna use something like an autoclicker

[ember yew]

just slap that 2kb file

and fire the lazorr

[fading vale]

seems too lame for my preference

[south folio]

autoclicker overshoots so i don't like it

[ember yew]

overshoots you mean

[keen silo]

is this worth proceeding with

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-drinking-bird-keyboard-the-simpsons-gif-8025433

[ember yew]

do shots after you stop holding button?

never occured to me

[fading vale]

not really

[south folio]

it's just a sophisticated autoclicker so the game's input queuing system will queue up shots

[ember yew]

however

theres the same melee mod

and that one is indeed swing one more

[keen silo]

what about starting with this one instead
i always get fucked in 1 stat
out of these

[fading vale]

probably decent enough to try upgrading

[ember yew]

do first 2 rolls like always

[keen silo]

righ

[ember yew]

and then think to risk it or not

if 2 trash perks

dump it

or you could 3

and dump after that

[fading vale]

I can't imagine playing this game with a caxe and auto swing mod, it's not even playing the game

[keen silo]

i keep missing boltgun shots
the spray and pray seems so much more accurate

[keen silo]

literally lmao

[ember yew]

[fading vale]

bolter is a bitch to aim especially on zealot

[keen silo]

any reason?

[ember yew]

bolter needs buffs tbh

[fading vale]

it gets suppressed like crazy

[ember yew]

i would like to see it rival Plasma Gun

maybe stronger on short range

[fading vale]

and successive shots don't shoot where the sight is looking

[ember yew]

and ofc weaker on long range

[keen silo]

0 fucking clue why i LITERALLY have been getting hammerblow/impact blessings on this damn sword

why does it even have impact blessings

makes no focking sense

[fading vale]

you got flak though

[ember yew]

fartshark toying with us

[fading vale]

it's for the thundersword

[ember yew]

try next one

https://tenor.com/view/children-ruin-everything-astrid-number-3-three-number-three-gif-7744111263242052534

[keen silo]

its salvagable ig

[fading vale]

that's workable

[ember yew]

you can use that

[keen silo]

yea SSweep and maniac

[north sedge]

God the vicious slice discovery was so fucking funny

[keen silo]

but i hate seeing that fucking cleave damage

[fading vale]

either shred or savage sweep and unarmored to maniac yeah

[keen silo]

what threshold points would i be missing with this cleave damage?
any idea?

[fading vale]

probably none at all

[ember yew]

if you slap Savage Sweep or Wrath

you get higher cleave damage for additional targets

and you dont have many options

[fading vale]

it's not going to make much of a difference

[ember yew]

Either Shred (if crit), or SS or Wrath

[keen silo]

i have SS 3

ill just use that