You can't.
#zealot-class
daring blaze
olive raven
Skissue tbh
daring blaze
I literally tested it man...
ripe heron
gunners don't trigger dodge triggers.
opaque island
that guy is fuckin dead
polar nexus
gunners don't trigger dodge triggers.
You don't lose coherency regen by meleeing them too iirc
ripe heron
Coherengy regen stops when an enemy is in one of your melee slots
gunners don't go to melee slots.
daring blaze
This "Coherency" feature is awfully incoherent innit?
median steeple
I know rashad 2 is the preferred one, but this is usable yeah?
yup yup
polar nexus
gunners don't go to melee slots.
Ok so that's the explanation! Thanks. There's other enemies like gunners?
opaque island
what the fuck do you mean by enemies being in melee slots?
you mean like they're close enough to melee
median steeple
bombers and snipers maybe?
it would make sense since they are ranged only like gunners
median steeple
something like that
polar nexus
bombers and snipers maybe?
An trappers?
coarse birch
Gunners dont count, but if your meleeing Gunners theres a fair chance your not in coherency anyway
coarse birch
That is not a hot take
polar nexus
I know rashad 2 is the preferred one, but this is usable yeah?
Thrust is not really good on the antax
The heavies are slow
fleet zealot
uncanny is a continuous buff and way easier to get off (especially cause enemies, even monsters have weak spots behind them)
polar nexus
Just keep stamina and move thrust to headtaker4
fleet zealot
but I see so many people swearing by ruthless backstab
but maybe cause they also go stealth and they think this is dishonored or assassin's creed
ripe heron
polar nexus
Stam will help you for your push attacks which are very good on the antax
indigo quartz
Just keep stamina and move thrust to headtaker4
groaners to flak or maniac? i'd lean maniac because penetration is for flak
median steeple
opaque island
what does this mean?
polar nexus
Yeah maniacs
indigo quartz
much appreciated keet
fleet zealot
what does this mean?
melee slots afaik, means the enemy is aggro'd onto you and ready to swing
daring blaze
what does this mean?
Seriously?
ripe heron
Basically as you move around the level, the game assigns 'slots' around you that enemies will pathfind to fight you in melee
opaque island
melee slots afaik, means the enemy is aggro'd onto you and ready to swing
thank you
indigo quartz
i'll probably dick around with this antax until I get a good rashad base
fleet zealot
and enemy in your melee slot will slide and go to hit you if you have a rnaged weapon out
ripe heron
This stops enemies stacking into eachother somewhat
opaque island
Seriously?
yes i dont know something the game never explains or tells me about
ripe heron
In darktide there are also ranged slots, which is how shooters get into cover.
opaque island
is that so hard to believe
fleet zealot
game doesn't tell you anything about specials
it's just like "fuck you figure it out yourself"
drifting wolf
dog jumpscare
fleet zealot
and I didn't realize how bad it is for new players for the genre until i played with friends
sour sierra
In darktide there are also ranged slots, which is how shooters get into cover.
Is that why sometimes gunners will just fondle their weapons until u kill enough of their friends?
opaque island
so when yall say slots you mean enemies that are targetting you, now i get it
polar nexus
much appreciated keet
Flakiac would be preferable but you'll deal enough DMG to most of the targets wearing flak already.
Don't forget the special can stagger a mutie
light holly
it's just like "fuck you figure it out yourself"
Honestly fine though
opaque island
and there are only X amount of slots for enemies to target you at once
polar nexus
And you don't heavy attack maniacs with a caxe
light holly
and there are only X amount of slots for enemies to target you at once
Similar existed back in VT2
ripe heron
That's just an aggro animation that would stop you walking into a room and having the whole squad gun you down
fleet zealot
"You have to shove the burster or else it will explode on you, running away doesn't stop it
"yea but it explodes why would I want to touch it"
light holly
Melee enemies can only attack so many of you before they take their turn
opaque island
"You have to shove the burster or else it will explode on you, running away does...
ive seen so many people try to run from the bomber
light holly
So there's not 60 people smacking you at once
fleet zealot
and that made me ascend to another plane of existance
median steeple
there is a difference of the game explaining basic things you kind of need to know and keeping techs and advanced shit hidden
fleet zealot
I suddenly understand
light holly
there is a difference of the game explaining basic things you kind of need to kn...
What would you suggest?
opaque island
i just hate the feeling of the guy saying "seriously?" to me like im stupid for not understand
ing
light holly
Like, I thought most of it was straight foreward
Maybe besides pushing pox busters at the right time
ripe heron
median steeple
the game actually teach new players useful things besides sit in cover
fleet zealot
I think the tutorial should include all specialists
wheat sandal
What important breakpoints should I hypothetically be hitting with a good Rashad?
ripe heron
Long video but the first couple minutes should explain slots.
median steeple
what ferret said should be put into the training, that pushing poxbursters should be taught in the training
ripe heron
light holly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ztpxnj9aA
Yeah that was dangerous in vt2
Which was why it was important to learn to shove
fleet zealot
cause like, I have the long long gaming experience that I can just, figure out, ok push bursters in one game
frosty herald
Is that
light holly
But this only really applied on champion +
frosty herald
The longsword
ripe heron
that's wizard fire 1h sword
fleet zealot
but it makes 100% sense why someone wouldn't go for a push cause A) why touch thing that explodes? and B) if they fuck up the push timing, they are gonna think that is the wrong way to deal with them
light holly
Where there was acfually enough enemies to justify pushing it
light holly
but it makes 100% sense why someone wouldn't go for a push cause A) why touch th...
All I can say is
They'll see someone do it
drifting wolf
What important breakpoints should I hypothetically be hitting with a good Rashad...
if you mean modifiers, i'm pretty someone here once said the rashad needed like 75+ in everything besides mobility for it's breakpoints. but honestly i'd just ask actually someone familiar with the weapon cause im not lol
ripe heron
Darktide units are really bad at melee compared to vermintide and attack really slowly.
fleet zealot
dodging trappers and mutants, pushing/blocking/anything vs dogs lmao
light holly
So alot of it just kinda clinkes
fleet zealot
yea, you have preexisting knowledge
light holly
dodging trappers and mutants, pushing/blocking/anything vs dogs lmao
Bruh
limpid pike
fleet zealot
of the genre
limpid pike
i just got this for my zealot
light holly
Even left 4 dead
limpid pike
this good right?
frosty herald
Bursters are ez pz but you have to watch out for teammates
light holly
Didn't tell you you could time to push a hunter
fleet zealot
l4d you didn't have a dodge button
light holly
The game shouldn't be teaching you
frosty herald
And double push will always mean you get hit
median steeple
Darktide units are really bad at melee compared to vermintide and attack really ...
the consequence of the game trying to be more of a hybrid between range and melee instead of it being melee focused
fleet zealot
Didn't tell you you could time to push a hunter
wrong
light holly
By spoon feeding you
fleet zealot
it was one of the tooltips
opaque island
I have no problem with bursters, until a teamate decided they're going to shoot it when its right in front of me
drifting wolf
yeah, just pray hadron doesn't defile it
fleet zealot
no, but that is besides the point,
light holly
Did the game tutorialize to teach you
fleet zealot
all non chargers/bosses were vulnerable to pushes
light holly
Thst you can shove an eshan assassin
fleet zealot
and you had a little pop up
light holly
Or a dog
fleet zealot
on teammates to shove the hunter off
light holly
In d2
polar nexus
the consequence of the game trying to be more of a hybrid between range and mele...
On the other hand, there's no full ranged units in VT iirc
light holly
Its something you should learn
fleet zealot
how much preexisting knowledge you are running off of
opaque island
I intuitively understood slots, i mean you can see that enemies take their turns attacking you, i just never heard it called slots before so the terminology was confusing me
light holly
They work similar to shooter in d2 actually
sour sierra
They pull a spear if u go close
median steeple
On the other hand, there's no full ranged units in VT iirc
Flamers, ratling gunners, and ungor archers
sour sierra
Literally the gunners are fully ranged in vt2
warm trellis
do enemies roller blading after you still count as "in your slot" or is it really as rigid as in they have to be literally in the circle?
polar nexus
Oh wait I played vt1 only
median steeple
if you want to be pedantic, blightstormers aswell
light holly
Anyways
polar nexus
I didn't remember ranged units
sour sierra
I wouldnt call ungors ranged units lmao
light holly
I think at minimum the game should teach people about shoving pox busters, but if you're a new player you can watch OR interact with the community
sour sierra
They have to hit u to be considered that
drifting wolf
Darktide units are really bad at melee compared to vermintide and attack really ...
i gotta get better at vermintide, the lack of a toughness system mixed in with it being fairly difficult to tell if there's a random slave rat behind you about to hit you in the back of the head makes it feel a lot more difficult at times
light holly
I just dont think it needs to be spoon fed
median steeple
pretty sure if they are swinging at you they count, so them doing the virtual insanity counts ( I could be wrong )
light holly
Everything else is intuitive
opaque island
I believe dodging breaks them from your slots meaning they wont roller skate at you and hit you
fleet zealot
yes, the rollerbladed enemies are locked onto you, so you have to dodge/block and prevent people from just running away with a ranged weapon
opaque island
if im understanding this correctly
fleet zealot
Everything else is intuitive
for you
light holly
maybe the game should teach you about timing shooters or snipers
ember yew
i gotta get better at vermintide, the lack of a toughness system mixed in with i...
well, there's Temp HP which acts as a substitute
fleet zealot
if you don't need it, skip the tutorial
fleet zealot
if you don't want it
light holly
Spood fed everything
light holly
It should be light
fleet zealot
this could be their first fps or horde shooter
light holly
Darktide is not an easy game
fleet zealot
nah
light holly
Darktide is not easy my friend
drifting wolf
ehhh
light holly
I mean
fleet zealot
make it optional, let anyone learn how to kill heretics
sour sierra
Huh
fleet zealot
yes it is easy LMAO
fleet zealot
god damn
median steeple
darktide is pretty easy once you know the basics
sour sierra
Compared to vt2 darktide is cakewalk
light holly
In comparison
fleet zealot
NO IT ISMT
YES IT IS LMAO everyon complains that damnation is easier than cata
daring blaze
yes it is easy LMAO
"This game is ez af" - Gamer
light holly
Like if you want
median steeple
nah VT2 is wayy harder
opaque island
i think most of us are thinking about the game being easy from the perspective of experienced gamers
ornate bone
I HATE INFORMATION I WANT PEOPLE TO BE LOST AND HAVE FRUSTRATING INTERACTIONS IN AURIC DAMNATION DUE TO THINGS THE GAME REFUSED TO EXPLAIN
light holly
You can tell someone to play vermintide 2
sour sierra
Wtf
light holly
Some of the mechanics are easier
opaque island
someone who isnt an experienced gamer is going to feel very overwhelmed by a game like darktide
light holly
Ah man
sour sierra
No they literally arent wtf
ember yew
YES IT IS LMAO everyon complains that damnation is easier than cata
on cata slave rat with one normal hit erase like 70% of my hp
light holly
Like because they made toughness back in v2 easier to get
ember yew
you cant get hit on cata
ornate bone
The game should spoonfeed important mechanics
light holly
Its a little easier
ember yew
it hurts
fleet zealot
someone who isnt an experienced gamer is going to feel very overwhelmed by a gam...
that doesn't mean they shouldn't be given a fair shake, accessibility matters
gatekeeping is stupid
light holly
On lower difficulties
sour sierra
U have a grave period of 1 hit in darktide
opaque island
that doesn't mean they shouldn't be given a fair shake, accessibility matters
im talking about the people saying lol darktide is easy
sour sierra
Aslong as your toughness is full
light holly
Darktide you can get absolutely blasted by gunners
light holly
U have a grave period of 1 hit in darktide
Well
light holly
Besides over heads by crushers
sour sierra
In vt2 1 slap takes 30 hp in legend
daring blaze
Honestly, Auric is a fucked up difficulty
light holly
I mean ahh shit
sour sierra
Yeah lmao
light holly
Okay maybe you're right
ember yew
imagine if trash mobs on damnation erased all your toughness + 50% HP with one hit
fleet zealot
we can intuit
idk why smudgels can't understand this
sour sierra
U might not remember your fist legend runs
light holly
But I will say darktide is more difficult
ember yew
thats VT2 cata
sour sierra
But i do
fleet zealot
lol, even learning from watching is a learned experience skill
light holly
U might not remember your fist legend runs
No I do, and I even remeber my new legend runs
Because I'm ruuusty
daring blaze
No individual enemy in Darktide is dangerous enough to the players
opaque island
idk why smudgels can't understand this
im agreeing with smudgels that the game ISNT easy for someone new to horde shooters
light holly
lol, even learning from watching is a learned experience skill
That's something everyone learns
Like if you want to introduce someone to horde shooters
fleet zealot
then let people learn without making them overwhelmed
ornate bone
Man, I used to fucking suck at basic shit in Tide games
fleet zealot
that's why you have tutorials
light holly
L4d2
sour sierra
Until u learn the timings forr overhead, how to dodge, how to control hordes, headshot enemies, deal with monstera etc
fleet zealot
Lmao, I'm not telling a friend who bought darktide to play with me, to buy l4d2 first
and play through that
sour sierra
Darktides dodging,melee and bosses are so fcking easy
light holly
Until u learn the timings forr overhead, how to dodge, how to control hordes, he...
Now to be fair vermintide 2 tutorials zed you
fleet zealot
until they learn enough skills to play darktide
light holly
How to dodge over heads
daring blaze
The game has to spam the equivalent of a chaos patrol every 5 minutes and force you to fight them to even pose a challenge
ornate bone
There are things you learn with practice and things you just need to be told
light holly
Darktide doesn't
opaque island
trust me, ive watched players struggle with a horde on malice, and i firmly believe this is their first horde shooter, and to them it is overwhelming
light holly
Darktide almost assumes you've played other vermintide games
sour sierra
Darktide doesn't
Yeah cause if u get hit by an overhead in darktide u are bad
sour sierra
They take soooo long to land
fleet zealot
a proper tutorial would smooth out the learning curve and get more players
ornate bone
Like I can't tell a guy "oh, if you clicky the heady the heady explody" because they can find that out by testing and headshot mechanics being present pretty much everywhere, including real life
light holly
Okay far enouugh
fleet zealot
if you don't like it or someone doesn't want to use a tutorial and learn via playing, they can
sour sierra
Only reason at first i was dying to overheads was cause i thought i could block them
light holly
The tutorial might been to be updated
ornate bone
But when you present an enemy that rushes the player and jumps at them to explode for massive damage
median steeple
The game has to spam the equivalent of a chaos patrol every 5 minutes and force ...
that is one of the fundamental differences between VT and DT, vermintide director used tactics for the most part while darktides doesn't
ember yew
trust me, ive watched players struggle with a horde on malice, and i firmly beli...
w40k franchise in general is more popular than fantasy warhammer + this game is for free on Xbox Gamepass (Console/PC)
so there's that
median steeple
so the director resorts to spam most of the time
ornate bone
Getting blown up by the rushing enemy is a clear indication of "kill it before it comes close"
fleet zealot
this enemy explodes if you touch it, except if you touch it with a push, welcome to danktide
ornate bone
The solution is the complete opposite of what the game's practice teaches
fleet zealot
and like, sure you can learn from "watching someone else" but is a new player gonna be watching or are they gonna be preoccupied
daring blaze
that is one of the fundamental differences between VT and DT, vermintide directo...
They wouldn't need so many difficulty spikes if everything in the game wasn't so fucking broken
fleet zealot
darktide is fundementally always gonna be less balanced than vt2
ornate bone
Yeah, can you even rely on the magical moment where a poxburster is rushing a player who knows and a player who doesn't is paying attention to that specific event?
daring blaze
They really failed to balance the melee and ranged aspects
warm trellis
that is one of the fundamental differences between VT and DT, vermintide directo...
that sounds like a gross oversimlification lol
fleet zealot
there is simply way too many variables, even if crafting wasn't a thing.
olive raven
Only reason at first i was dying to overheads was cause i thought i could block ...
๐ happened to most
sour sierra
They look blockable
opaque island
oh there goes all my health
gilded bridge
Anyone know the recommended dump stat for bolter?
fleet zealot
Anyone know the recommended dump stat for bolter?
mobility
formal umbra
so penance ISN'T broken for me, just really goddamn jank. prob because I use evis.
median steeple
that sounds like a gross oversimlification lol
Its like its one of the many reasons and not the sole one
ornate bone
To "naturally teach" the player you need:
- A poxburster to not rush the player
- A poxburster to rush the other player who knows to push it
- The player watching it to not be busy with literally anything else
- The player watching it to actually not be entirely devoid of shit to do because then their logical next step is shooting the burster rushing the other player
daring blaze
Mobility is the fake dump stat on Bolter
median steeple
the bolter is a fake weapon
fleet zealot
any lower and you won't instantly open bulwarks
warm trellis
Its like its one of the many reasons and not the sole one
I mean that the DT director isnt using tactics is an oversimplification, not that its the only differnce doofus
fleet zealot
You also know the recommended perks/blessings for bolter?
pinning fire+ shattering impact
daring blaze
Mobility is the fake dump stat on Bolter
with no mobility you can't dodge and you have to switch to melee
fleet zealot
darktide director uses tactics, i've seen some funny shit
ornate bone
And then we get into the dynamics of what actually constitutes "just enough shit to do that the new player won't shoot the burster, but has time to pay attention to the burster being pushed by another player"
fleet zealot
like reaper ambush from behind
ornate bone
And what contitutes that is sheer fucking bullshit because that's never happening
gilded bridge
any lower and you won't instantly open bulwarks
Okay thanks
median steeple
I mean that the DT director isnt using tactics is an oversimplification, not tha...
I mean it really isnt when 90% of the time it resorts to rager spam
fleet zealot
but there is simply TOO much stuff going on in higher difficulties cause the director is relentless
ornate bone
AND IT'S EVEN FUCKING WORSE IF THE NEW PLAYER HAS A WEAPON THAT CAN STAGGER THE POXBURSTER
warm trellis
rager spam happens a lot less than you make it sound there lol
sour sierra
Only thing that makes games harder in darktide is the fact that there is no special enemy limit imo
ornate bone
Because then they will be inclined to shoot it even as it comes close to the teammate to desperately try to push it off
warm trellis
god I wish we still had ranald
ornate bone
And then you have the other problem
fleet zealot
so it just seems the director is throwing the kitchen sink at you, even if it is using tactics
median steeple
in regular dam there is some tactics going on but once you it Hi Int the directors brain turns off
ornate bone
How can the player correlate the weapon stagger with the push stagger?
fleet zealot
on lower difficulties, the director is too neutered to do anything
median steeple
ornate bone
How can the player make the connection that maybe the autopistol pushing the burster can also be done with melee pushing?
They can't
It's easier to grab them to a corner and say "you can push the burster"
The problem got solved in 5 words
fleet zealot
It's easier to grab them to a corner and say "you can push the burster"
but also dodge backwards if possible and time it right
cause sometimes you can push
and it will still fall close enough to damage you
ornate bone
I push like 6 times per second and dodge 7 just to be sure
I am not shitting myself
median steeple
teaching the basic concept of pushing the burster with the push mechanic should be taught but learning things like thammer pushing it with a light and other weapons doing the same should be left to players discovering it
sour sierra
Have ppl forgotten about trial and error btw?
ornate bone
Yeah, stuff like weapon combos people can figure out
ornate bone
They won't need to be told "if you do a push attack your next attack is different" because they can actually see that exact thing on the screen
fleet zealot
Have ppl forgotten about trial and error btw?
learning from trial and error in an unfamiliar environment rarely works
you need SOME level of guidance
sour sierra
Ok
olive raven
Some of the mechanics are so fucking obscure that some will never figure it out ๐
sour sierra
Watch other ppl play while u are dead
fleet zealot
you can't take someone who never cooked in their life and expect them to figure out how to bake a cake
sour sierra
Thats guidance enough
fleet zealot
with no instructions
sour sierra
Thats how i learned u cna push bursters
fleet zealot
or just have an optional, indepth tutorial?
ornate bone
Have ppl forgotten about trial and error btw?
The problem with the poxburster specifically is that the trial and error leads to them not trying again
fleet zealot
I learned how to push bursters in my first match but that's cause i'm a video game addict
median steeple
the fundamentals should be taught and this game already has so many hidden techs you can learn that putting simple things you NEED to know wont harm anything
ornate bone
They'll get blown up and not want to get near a poxburster again until someone rips their mind open and penetrates it with enlightenment
I think I learned pushing from here
median steeple
please dont mind penetrate people in public
fleet zealot
Then i saw a guy pushing them
and if you are new to video games/fps/horde shooters in general, how likely do you think you would be watching someone, hypothetically
gilded bridge
Does stability from 65-80 make a huge difference for bolter if you're good at aiming?
daring blaze
Thr elite spam on HISTG wouldn't be so bad if they didn't come in homogenous packs of 5 all the time
fleet zealot
Does stability from 65-80 make a huge difference for bolter if you're good at ai...
kinda? there is also a trick to the bolter, ads-> tap fire is 100% accurate down the middle iirc
sour sierra
and if you are new to video games/fps/horde shooters in general, how likely do y...
I would imagine if u are a new player u would be dead frequently
So plenty ig
median steeple
Thr elite spam on HISTG wouldn't be so bad if they didn't come in homogenous pac...
so true
fleet zealot
and a new casual, non gamer, is probably gonna alt tab
gilded bridge
kinda? there is also a trick to the bolter, ads-> tap fire is 100% accurate down...
Yea I've been testing that
fleet zealot
and go talk to their friends on facebook
when dead
judging from how many newbies are afk when I rescue them
ornate bone
Man, do I fucking alt-tab
I just shut my brain off when I have to watch people play
fleet zealot
afdshfdgahsd
median steeple
I alt tab but thats to find new music
blazing fossil
does beacon of purity negate grim corruption damage?
ornate bone
Yep
opaque island
hiSTG completely changes the flow of the level, so many elites too
ornate bone
Or at least most of it, I think I got a corruption perk on my curio
fleet zealot
does beacon of purity negate grim corruption damage?
yes and no, it counteracts the ticking corruption, but not the flat corruption
median steeple
we aint ever getting back WPs corruption immunity 
fleet zealot
flat corruption is changed by grim resistance and corruption resistance
ornate bone
Yeah, like, the actual corruption gain from picking it up is just "get fucked"
Beacon stops it from turning the match into a time trial tho
fleet zealot
i love it when the idiots who picked up grimiores die and i just get all my wounds back
daring blaze
I've started going down in difficulty just so I can get some downtime to hear proper character dialogues happening
median steeple
I wish grims and scrips gave something
next trench
finally someting decent from mission reward
fleet zealot
like holy hell, the reward is power crept past to hell, and vet and psyker suck so much to have double grims
if they aren't spec'd for it
sour sierra
Grims in darktide suck shit, they dont even have a tail
fleet zealot
i remember my 1 uncorrupted HP point psyker games while levelling
they buffed mission rewards but forgot to buff side books cause lmao
median steeple
#givegrimsmoretentacles
fleet zealot
you should, they were useful around launch and after cause they gave relatively a substantial reward
but they didn't buff them when they massively buffed mission rewards so 
olive raven
finally someting decent from mission reward
Shame itโs not a columnus
median steeple
give each mission guaranteed grims/scrips (depending on mission) and just make them give guaranteed higher score gear instead of the emperor giving us 430 golds
fleet zealot
move scrips to the uhh
daring blaze
you really should get bigger rewards for getting the books
They put old Ranald's dice count behind the scenes
fleet zealot
booster/chem slot
and have both grim and scrips every map
and buff the fuck out of the reward, or have them contribute to big e gift
median steeple
I think I got one good thing from emps gift and that was a tier 4 blessing
the base score was a 460 gold
like why
daring blaze
I remember them saying a long while ago that doing higher modifier missions, along with secondary objectives, gives better weapons
fleet zealot
i got one good emp's gift from a malice and I was so autopiloted at 2am i deleted it
median steeple
despair
fleet zealot
it was a 380 mk9 hsword with flak, maniac, and headtaker 4 it was so perfect
and i lost it, cause OF COURSE THE FUKCING GIFT IF GOOD WHEN it's 2 am and I should be sleeping
daring blaze
karma
median steeple
oop I forget the counter argument I hear when I bring this up
"This isn't vermintide"
sorry guys we cant make the game better by learning lessons
daring blaze
In the 40000 years since then, we even forgot how to block while typing
ornate bone
so we back in the mine
ornate bone
brick incomming
unique cairn
If 51% Mobility has max dodge count then itโs pmuch perfect
north sedge
perfect until it gets ruined by hadron
unique cairn
brick incoming indeed
opaque island
Hadron loves bricking our weapons
misty raven
brick incomming
Hadron salivating at the horror she can make
drifting wolf
this is why i like the enginseer more
limpid pike
good stats tho right?
north sedge
perfect stats
unique cairn
Just waiting here for the 2nd screenshot of it bricked to hell
light holly
give each mission guaranteed grims/scrips (depending on mission) and just make t...
That's... alright, but I don't like the grim/tome system anyways
Would rather give us a way to maybe increase modifiers
Maybe a +10 -10 range
maiden path
hadron hopped over her little counter and punched me in the stomach when i asked her to not give me +20 stamina efficiency
i threw up everywhere
ornate bone
hadron hopped over her little counter and punched me in the stomach when i asked...
she gave you - 20 hp instead
light holly
darktide is fundementally always gonna be less balanced than vt2
I will hope they at least fine tune it
I would rather more missions before exclusively scab or more exclusively dredge
drifting wolf
i pleaded with her to not brick a cool and good evis XV and she threw a servoskull at my head
light holly
Also to add onto that I hope they add in a dredge boss
maiden path
whens revolver gonna get a nerf
drifting wolf
2 months
maiden path
or give bolter a buff
drifting wolf
2 years
light holly
So we can get more of the scab/dredge conflict
north sedge
conflict?
maiden path
bolter still needs to be able to oneshot specials that arent crusher is all im saying
make it do something
maiden path
even if the bolter we use are like sister of war ones
maiden path
shit should still punch holes through anything smaller then a crusher
drifting wolf
dregs are just nurgle cultists or other infected civilians, scabs are all from the moebian sixth
light holly
Then hearing dredge leaders speak to us
maiden path
nurgles gifts does not discriminate
light holly
dregs are just nurgle cultists or other infected civilians, scabs are all from t...
Well yeah in theory many of them are choosing the moebians because they are well
limpid pike
light holly
The dredges of a hiveworld
limpid pike
what it upgraded too
drifting wolf
surgical my beloved
limpid pike
actually with the crit bonus thats the best blessing it could had gotten
besides the tier 4 version
mossy lodge
guys melee weapon and ranged for a zelot to kill bosses
heady rapids
you should gamble hard and replace that surgical with a shit blessing so you have a chance for both t4 surgical and handcannon (joking obv)
mossy lodge
and talent tree
fickle shoal
Stealth Button + Heavy Blade
north sedge
hammer
drifting wolf
thunderhammer
north sedge
for bosses
fickle shoal
Oh right hammer
drifting wolf
the new chainaxe also might work
fickle shoal
Forgot about that thing ๐
hushed agate
Is showstopper good or nah.
hushed agate
Figured
fickle shoal
Sure but at least it would be fun if it were guaranteed
Rn it's neither good nor fun
mossy lodge
Which hammerr and what modification should i use
hushed agate
Yeah youre usually using flamer to kill trash and stagger bigger enemies for your team
north sedge
flamer is very good at killing elites
drifting wolf
crucis has better single target damage and ironhelm has better crowd control/horde clear
hushed agate
Not in my experience. Feels infinitely easier to smack them upside the head
spare talon
I'm of the opinion that Stam regen is good depending on how you play/what you run (me with dclaw and crusher push attacks), but my fucking God
I didn't think people actually ran shit like this
mossy lodge
i would like to use flamer elites and hammer for bosses
north sedge
i've seen a full stam ogryn, he died every fight
spare talon
I'm going to die reading these thread comments
drifting wolf
he was a good marathon runner surely
spare talon
This thread is literally fatal
north sedge
i mean, it's reddit
ornate bone
Is that the one where a guy says gunner resistance is one of the least useful perks for curios?
hushed agate
Stopped using reddit a bit ago
spare talon
I'm going to be hit with the collateral oneshots from sheer exposure
hushed agate
Is that the one where a guy says gunner resistance is one of the least useful pe...
Insane. Triple gunner resist or bust
spare talon
Is that the one where a guy says gunner resistance is one of the least useful pe...
Idk if it's this thread
OP actually is sane though
Stam regen is good and so are resists, I think resists are better for the average player and tough/hp perks are only for those who can avoid taking damage from the enemies you'd want resists of in the first place (except gunner that's just goated)
maiden path
if your not playing auric you probably odnt need gunner res
spare talon
It's just the comments that make me audibly hear the down sfx
maiden path
ive never needed it and all i play is damnnation
spare talon
if your not playing auric you probably odnt need gunner res
Hard disagree
mossy lodge
do i need a different talent three to use a hammer to kill bosses/
hushed agate
It depends ig
ornate bone
This one gave me an aneurysm
maiden path
your teammates will either kill it or you'll get it
mossy lodge
and if soo what do you recoment'
maiden path
takes too long for them to setup
ive never had issue
most of my weapons stagger though so maybe its what i use
hushed agate
This one gave me an aneurysm
Wow both of them are stupid
coarse birch
and if soo what do you recoment'
What are you running
ornate bone
Dude is so desperate to say gunner is useless that he will actually unironically adopt someone's mockery of "every defense is useless if you don't get hit"
mossy lodge
this
maiden path
Dude is so desperate to say gunner is useless that he will actually unironically...
mocked for spitting real shit
maiden path
lost trail
ive done some stupid shit with 3 stam curios on ogryn with the shield
hushed agate
One of them is me you scoundrel
Heheheha
royal vortex
One of them is me you scoundrel
lmfao
lost trail
was it overkill? yeah. was it also really funny as the gunners desperately magdumped me as i lumbered over to them? yep
mossy lodge
maiden path
gunners are fucking useless if your teammates and you arent stupd
mossy lodge
im going with that
hushed agate
I wish flamer had better damage blessings. For how devastating flamers are in lore you think youd be able to melt alot quicker
maiden path
on some army of two shit have one of u draw fire
mossy lodge
spare talon
Dude is so desperate to say gunner is useless that he will actually unironically...
The reason why it's so good is taking gunner damage is very difficult to avoid entirely even as an amazing player, so reducing it a ton helps immensely, not just from gunners themselves, but from anything that may manage to hit you before you top off your toughness again
But I wouldn't expect that redditor to understand nuances in gameplay like that
maiden path
i think flamers should have natural buffs against dregs considering your literally burning away disease
hushed agate
gunners are fucking useless if your teammates and you arent stupd
We are though
drifting wolf
blindly shoot into the distance hoping a stray bullet will stagger the gunner
royal vortex
in games with pub players you're probably going to end up the designated gunner clearing guy because a lot of ppl just do not do shit
royal vortex
which is when gunner res becomes more valuable
ornate bone
I hate gunners, so I pick gunner res
royal vortex
because pubs have an 80% chance of watching someone else dive shit and kill it as they take potshots at all the carapace sections on maulers/reapers
maiden path
the rush down talent topped with no stun makes you generate enough toughness to let yourself get smacked
spare talon
3x gunner resist +twbs is literally night and day
hushed agate
your in zealot chat
Oh wow i didnt notice
maiden path
Oh wow i didnt notice
ik u didnt das why i said it
ornate bone
hushed agate
ik u didnt das why i said it
Rat
hushed agate
Okay im sorry
royal vortex
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1h9tqKQ9lc96gH/d1337oWY3E5...
you have encountered high entertainment gameplay
lost trail
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1h9tqKQ9lc96gH/d1337oWY3E5...
absolutely GONE
ornate bone
I want Thy Toughness Be Swift
royal vortex
another favorite of mine is 6+ bulwarks and a trapper
north sedge
๐ค
royal vortex
the 6+ bulwarks are fucking awful to fight because they ruin the pacing of the game when they migrate en masse
mossy lodge
What are you running
any good?
hushed agate
Single shotgunner
royal vortex
but then u add the trapper and suddenly i am attempting to make exploratory holes in my wall
lost trail
the bulwarks migrate every round to your location
mossy lodge
i want to try something that delete bosses and elites
lost trail
the survival of the bulwark species relies on this migration event
mossy lodge
any help?
maiden path
i want to try something that delete bosses and elites
i think you need to reach max level if you wanna do that
wtf is that chainsword
hushed agate
340?
drifting wolf
another favorite of mine is 6+ bulwarks and a trapper
i experienced that earlier but it was a mixed herd of bulwarks and crushers around every corner
ornate bone
The bulwarks when it's winter and they instinctively make the whole match go south
God, having a single bulwark is fucking frustrating
royal vortex
they seek warmer lands
ornate bone
Because when it's alone you can just bait and shoot
mossy lodge
@maiden path im using it becouse i want to same money for a better weapon
royal vortex
the strike team emits heat
mossy lodge
to kill bosses
hushed agate
God, having a single bulwark is fucking frustrating
Hey now we're allowed to have a 360 block let them have there silly shield
maiden path
get ur money up king
opaque island
slowly but surely, i hope i can get this done before people get good enough that they dont go down as often
ornate bone
But when you need to deal with like 12 bruisers around it, suddenly you're looking for a bulwark opening inbetween the time the 12 bruisers aren't trying to murder you
maiden path
but also that chainsword is fucking horrible
royal vortex
God, having a single bulwark is fucking frustrating
all i play nowadays is crusher zealot
i just
ignore their whole gimmick
drifting wolf
smack them out of their stance
maiden path
that new heavy evis fucks so hard
drifting wolf
bonk on the head
mossy lodge
?
royal vortex
oh i cant say that word
ornate bone
A bulwark in a horde is like trimming a bush
mossy lodge
what hammer?
maiden path
the first one
royal vortex
when theres 6+ i sit in my c-word-that-rhymes-with-duck chair and hold them open and slowly deal with them myself while hoping my teammates realize this is an opportune moment to shoot the bad guys
ornate bone
You need to cut everything around it so you can finally fucking adress the actual problem
maiden path
not the ironhelm
mossy lodge
ok
ornate bone
And then sometimes what's around it is its fucking family
maiden path
ironhelm isnt made for boss killing its made for horde
mossy lodge
i want to focus on killing elites and bosses
ornate bone
maiden path
and does it really cool at that
next trench
is surgical good on a bolter?
opaque island
bulwark brought their extended family to christmas this year
maiden path
going sideways and fucking hitting a mutant rushing like a baseball is badass
drifting wolf
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1ebVhG4H7093kz/d1337vuG4K7...
nature is beautiful
north sedge
is surgical good on a bolter?
yes
drifting wolf
a magnificent herd
opaque island
going sideways and fucking hitting a mutant rushing like a baseball is badass
i love mutant baseball ๐
mossy lodge
beb, shold i changes shotgun to something else? like a flamer? or.....
royal vortex
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1ebVhG4H7093kz/d1337vuG4K7...
the bulwark interception
legendary
maiden path
beb, shold i changes shotgun to something else? like a flamer? or.....
no
shotgun fucks hard
i use one
north sedge
better than pinning fire?
you would want pinning fire and surgical
maiden path
might as well be a sniper
mossy lodge
xd
maiden path
with the one that has flame rounds it bascially is
next trench
you would want pinning fire and surgical
shaetting is good no?
north sedge
not so much
maiden path
idk
the one your using probably works
this guys cool though
if u ever wanna find a weapon to use
late birch
I asked in general but zealot might know better, did they "fix" or simply fix the tooltip on critical strikes doing more impact and/or stagger than regular strikes
mossy lodge
thx bro
hardy surge
how do people play this with a controller? it is so cursed
fleet zealot
how do people play this with a controller? it is so cursed
i heard the game behaves better on gyro aiming
aka moving your controller as your camera control
next trench
huh why is there a person in my lobby with a background picture
mossy lodge
WHICH ONE?
next trench
in their portrait
maiden path
how do people play this with a controller? it is so cursed
this game is def not a console game
just ported over for the sake of sales
mossy lodge
XD
maiden path
WHICH ONE?
that thammers not bad
fleet zealot
left you can save, p strike to savage sweep or rampage
maiden path
needs thrust though
maiden path
it works
fleet zealot
perks and blessngs and low pen
maiden path
doesnt gotta be pure meta to work
fleet zealot
eviscerator is 2/4 at least
and also isn't pure meta but that hammer is trolling
take the evi
infested to flak, unyielding, or even elites
remote sentinel
I've a zealot friend who wants to use one of the Devils Claw swords. Anyone got some suggestions/advice for which one to go for?
fleet zealot
and perfect strike to rampage or savage sweep
next trench
no dont waste your stuff in it, you can get a better roll on the rotating shop
if it had a level 4 blessing
maybe you get it to salvage it
its nothing spetacular to be wasting melk points in
fleet zealot
I've a zealot friend who wants to use one of the Devils Claw swords. Anyone got ...
I honestly have no idea which is the best, so i recomnend just playing around with a white version of each mark and seeing which moveset you like best
hushed agate
Mk IV sword feels pretty good imo
fleet zealot
but it is typically shred+ rampage for damage
coarse birch
4 is the most common
Savage sweep/rampage are good blessings
Shred for crit build
ornate bone
coarse birch
Over rampage
fleet zealot
shred is good on dclaw and crit build in general with it, cause it has a massive finesse ratio of 1.75
hardy surge
what they said. and learn to use the parry, it is so good
ornate bone
Finesse W
Finesse ratio
Finesse uhhh
idk actually
Oh yeah, finesse mald
Oh shit it's L, not W
Finesse L for me then
remote sentinel
Aighte, thanks a bunch to the lot of you.
maiden path
remote sentinel
Any suggestions for uh, Perks?
north sedge
Flak maniac
fleet zealot
Any suggestions for uh, Perks?
flak maniac prio, you can live with elites, unarmored, and unyielding
remote sentinel
Thank you.
slow galleon
Zealot chat in a nutshell
sinful maple
happy Xmas my fellow zealots โค๏ธ
hushed agate
ornate bone
Jerma's teacher noise
drifting wolf
that's just his normal voice
blissful ice
Which heavy eviscerator is best for a crit build? Whatโs the dump stat?
north sedge
Mobility
drifting wolf
mobility
hushed agate
If you dont know what dump stat is it's probably mobility
blissful ice
Bummerโฆ.i have 80 rolled lol
drifting wolf
it's generally mobility/defences
hushed agate
^
sharp zodiac
Damn this tea is hitting harder than a alcoholic dad
blissful ice
Is there a downside to the XV? The move set seems almost too simplistic. And a con to a normal attack horizontal vs the heavy horizontal?
drifting wolf
it only damages 4 enemies at a time with the light attacks
anything else is staggered but takes no damage
misty raven
Is there a downside to the XV? The move set seems almost too simplistic. And a...
It is. Play a wound zealot and watch your brain turn to mush with how brain dead simple and effective it is.
pseudo valve
Alternatively play a stealth knife zealot with flamer and do 4d chess aggro manipulation to perform at an average level. At least the drip is sweet.
north sedge
It still clears hordes well, the old one is just a bit better at it
misty raven
And youre in the uwu chat
ionic ivy
That waht chat
drifting wolf
welcome to purgatory
drifting wolf
theres no going back
ionic ivy
Huzzah
alpine knoll
does everyone know if theres away to recreate the invisibility glitch? apparnetly someone in a lobby told me its still exist and was doing it
binding ability activation and sprint to the same button doesnt work no more
unborn depot
does everyone know if theres away to recreate the invisibility glitch? apparnetl...
Rule 18
alpine knoll
my bad
olive raven
does everyone know if theres away to recreate the invisibility glitch? apparnetl...
They fixed the bug also donโt rely on bugs
hardy surge
still quartz
sinful maple
binding ability activation and sprint to the same button doesnt work no more
take martyrdom, kill everything, heal yourself
blissful ice
Why martyrdom over fury? Especially for a crit build?
olive raven
Why martyrdom over fury? Especially for a crit build?
Aight so basically
sinful maple
Why martyrdom over fury? Especially for a crit build?
newer players just have to light spam
still quartz
You get more out of Martyr
olive raven
Everythingโs moveset is simple
sinful maple
no thinking, just kill
olive raven
Also yall its a crit build, you want fury ๐
olive raven
Yes
If heโs running crit, he wants that so he gets the full potential
Itโs that or momentum tbh
Martyr is good but it isnโt worth it for crit CDR
still quartz
Yeah if using new Evisc with Shred Blessing (and optionally Scourge), you cam spec into the CDR on Crit but run Martyr
shy hull
If heโs running crit, he wants that so he gets the full potential
With evisc Crit build you pretty much just need shred and bleed talent, you get more than enough crit
still quartz
You get more out of Martyr, Damage + Atk Speex
shy hull
Crit*
still quartz
And Toughness Damage Reduction
coarse birch
Yeah for crit build id just take piety, slightly weapon dependant
still quartz
^
coarse birch
Like it can work without it
still quartz
Otherwise Piety
coarse birch
But your better off with other builds as kal said
still quartz
Basically it's "can my weapon use Shred" xd
olive raven
I mean you can do that but tbh Iโd take momentum personally
coarse birch
Over piety?
still quartz
Martyr's good
coarse birch
Well what weapon are we talking about
olive raven
If spec to Pietyโs CDR and then take pious + momentum
shy hull
I mean you can do that but tbh Iโd take momentum personally
Same, I think martyrdom is overrated
olive raven
Well what weapon are we talking about
Evis
still quartz
Just some players shouldn't use it if they aren't confident in their fundamentals
olive raven
I wonโt deny martyr isnโt good
I just dislike it cause itโs too brain dead easy
ashen quartz
i feel my brain smoothing out when i play martyr
coarse birch
If you run shred you can probably just go momentum ye
Momentum helps with mk 15 attack speed too
sinful maple
Thatโs just my opinion tho cuz i fuckin hate martyr
I do too but for a newer player to zealot to feel invincible with evis, just put them on heresy high intensity and kill the hordes
still quartz
I mean it's just what it is at that point xd
olive raven
I do too but for a newer player to zealot to feel invincible with evis, just put...
uh
timber terrace
bloodletter tier 4 same as tier 3?
olive raven
if someone is level 30, just slap em in damnation tbh
ashen quartz
leave the horses alone
olive raven
Thatโs how ya learn
coarse birch
Yeah you learn through losses better than wins
sinful maple
I do too but for a newer player to zealot to feel invincible with evis, just put...
HORSE REACT THIS POST
ashen quartz
what do yall reckon the odds of a 2h chaxe with an interesting moveset coming out within a year are
sinful maple
Thatโs how ya learn
ye I feel ya
coarse birch
Unless your just not having fun
sinful maple
what do yall reckon the odds of a 2h chaxe with an interesting moveset coming ou...
with the way they're pumping out updates, kinda optimistic
shy hull
what do yall reckon the odds of a 2h chaxe with an interesting moveset coming ou...
Within a year I think it's possible
sinful maple
FS doing real nice with the updates lately
pseudo valve
Gun goes bang
sharp zodiac
Handcannon and idk maniac for the revolver and you're set
olive raven
Still a good revolver
olive raven
Why martyrdom over fury? Especially for a crit build?
Also this is my rec for that build tbh
Seems fun enough, though piety may net you more benefits
Such as higher crit
Which thatโs a matter of swapping like
3 nodes, TDR on crit and i think removing momentum gives you the 2 others youโd want
timber terrace
how many bleedstacks does bloodletter 3 and 4 gives?
sinful maple
Handcannon and idk maniac for the **revolver** and you're set
agreed
surgical and handcannon is such an enjoyable combo
misty raven
Yeah if using new Evisc with Shred Blessing (and optionally Scourge), you cam sp...
This. This is my brain dead "I just want to run missions and not think" LMB spam build with a MKXV Evis w/shred
misty raven
I said it's my brain dead build. Enemies being knocked down when they hit me is useful
still quartz
Then again you don't have TWBS either so it might help more than I thought
Is it cooldown per enemy or a static CD on yourself whenever you get hit though I wonder?
misty raven
Is it cooldown per enemy or a static CD on yourself whenever you get hit though ...
CD on yourself. Multiple enemies can be knocked down
misty raven
AoE is a generous description I think. I just know I can be hit in the back, turn around and see 3 bruisers that were clumped on their ass
cerulean pike
i am victorious over the carolina reaper in my yakisoba
fleet zealot
I said it's my brain dead build. Enemies being knocked down when they hit me is ...
i don't think it works does it?
did they fix it cause on patch 13 it didn't even work
misty raven
i don't think it works does it?
I still see several enemies knocked on their ass when I turned around
fleet zealot
can you test in psykanium cause in game it could just be teammates, but idk, weird talent
misty raven
It does knock enemies down. And I'm not at my PC with mods. Now do I know if it knocks certain enemies down? Idk details. I do know it will prevent a dog from pinning you
You'll go to 3rd person, but the dog is immediately knocked off
fleet zealot
you can block a dog 360 tho 
misty raven
Sometimes I dont
fleet zealot
i guess it helps now rather than not working like before
lavish flame
i am victorious over the carolina reaper in my yakisoba
Brace urself for round 2 in a day
Round 2 is always worse
fleet zealot
turkwick
cerulean pike
Brace urself for round 2 in a day
i've had worse
fleet zealot
idk, i think it gets to the point you don't evne feel round 2
maybe i ate too many 10/10 spicy thai
with a note that says "pretend i'm not white"
cerulean pike
yeah i've eaten a lot of spicy food in my life already
It got bad at like one point
Cause i think a lil seed hit the back of my throat so I went like
fleet zealot
food so spicy you can smell the spicy outside of the bag outside of the styrofoam to go box
that's how you know it's gonna be good
cerulean pike
So the weird thing about the reaper is that it tastes more like
vegetal
than floral
mossy lodge
https://www.youtube.com/@RealAsianRobot/videos Is this guy good for builds?
pulsar stream
Heโs ok, his melee weapon choices tend to boil down to whatโs simplest to use but his talent advice is sound
vale carbon
which of these stats are worth changing to +5% health +5%toughness?
fleet zealot
ok idk why he doesn't pick the 10% smite damage boost
fleet zealot
which of these stats are worth changing to +5% health +5%toughness?
oof
vale carbon
part of me wants to keep the 10% money lol
fleet zealot
probably keep combat ability, or keep money for ordo farming
vale carbon
but the ability regen is objectively better i think
even though it's not that useful
mossy lodge
is max lvl weapon 600?
fleet zealot
it's 10% to all sources on smited targets, including your soulblaze
fleet zealot
is max lvl weapon 600?
550
mossy lodge
oh,ook
calm salmon
beryy crabmus zealot chat ๐
vale carbon
probably keep combat ability, or keep money for ordo farming
well i'll switch out sprint for now lol
blissful ice
Manโฆ..so much to think aboutโฆ.im seeing so many more builds using the dashing ult instead of relicโฆ.i was using crit and piety for a faster relic cooldownโฆ.im on damnation and havenโt tried auricโฆ.do I need to adjust to the dash ult?
fleet zealot
Manโฆ..so much to think aboutโฆ.im seeing so many more builds using the dashing ul...
dash is just better for solo play, and solo play wins games
cause you simply clear all the problems away
mossy lodge
well guys, im finally lvl 30 with zealot, now lvl up my final class......ogryn
wish me luck
calm salmon
Manโฆ..so much to think aboutโฆ.im seeing so many more builds using the dashing ul...
Yesn't
fleet zealot
chastise if you don't use the melee swing gives ranged armor penetration for the duration of the buff, it's just super flexible and in a cdr build, a constant boost to attack speed as well
safe tusk
well guys, im finally lvl 30 with zealot, now lvl up my final class......ogryn <...
Don't do it.
calm salmon
all of zealot's ults are good.
Crozius is just. . . uninteractive
you stand there for 10 seconds with a funny cross thing
mossy lodge
@safe tusk ??
fleet zealot
i think relic is the "worst" in pubbing cause you don't know if your team can use it or not
safe tusk
They should make it a rhythm game
fleet zealot
They should make it a rhythm game
100%
calm salmon
Takes a certain kind of person to enjoy it
Chastise is WAY more interactive in this regard
safe tusk
<@123830341696880641> ??
Ogryn will teach you horrible habits. Just never touch it 
calm salmon
as its used for positioning, stunning, and toughness regen
misty raven
wish me luck
No luck needed. I lvled ogryn last and I was in damnation at like ~lvl 20
safe tusk
Play Damnation from level 1 with friends
mossy lodge
wtf
safe tusk
Who's going to stop you
fleet zealot
he runs shred on duelling sword mk4
safe tusk
fleet zealot
which is just bad now
cause rampage can now proc on it's lights since they buffed them to 3 cleave
all in all
not the worst content creator
i rate 5/10
mossy lodge
not the worst content creator
who?
fleet zealot
which is high praise relatively to the other youtubers and build guides we've seen
sharp zodiac
I like him
fleet zealot
maybe bump it up to 6/10 cause i haven't seen anyhting outrageously wrong yet
mossy lodge
misty raven
i think relic is the "worst" in pubbing cause you don't know if your team can us...
True sometimes I'm that teammate because my brain is empty and I'm reloading a bolter during its duration
sharp zodiac
John Darktide
fleet zealot
John Darktide
fleet zealot
Jane Darktide
calm salmon
well guys, im finally lvl 30 with zealot, now lvl up my final class......ogryn <...
yoooooooooooooo we love ogryn
mossy lodge
i play wih him wtf
fleet zealot
i play wih him wtf
hey i'm not even saying he's bad
mossy lodge
i play with john dartide XD
fleet zealot
FUCKING
ok
surge staff with 5% crit take it and shove IT UP
god damn it he was doing so good too
back down to 5/10, -1 point for suggesting crit chance perk on a few specific non crit reliant blessing
elites, flak, carapace, and unyielding all better than 5% crit on surge
zinc talon
just go whallop a t5 crusher or whatever your goal is in the grinder
without anything
see how short you come up on your 1 or 2 or whatever combo
misty raven
i play with john dartide XD
There are a number of John Darktides.
zinc talon
that can help determine if you go elite or carapace for example
mossy lodge
There are a number of John Darktides.
??
zinc talon
if you're already that close without carapace, some of the % is wasted so to speak
so elites spreads it out more
fleet zealot
also, remember, 25%/10% damage perks you have active apply to soulblaze
zinc talon
can figure all this out just shitkicking one in the grinder
fleet zealot
so... crit chance is wasted
fleet zealot
you basically only go crit chance for blazing trauma or surge (blessing, not staff)
mossy lodge
HOW DO YOU EARN THE NAME?
zinc talon
steb
mossy lodge
XD
fleet zealot
you defeat mortarion secret weird mode
mossy lodge
XD
fleet zealot
that can help determine if you go elite or carapace for example
yee
elites is good, probably the best non 25% damage perk, and better than stuff like infested 99% of the time
zinc talon
golden badge
Just had the worst mission of all my time playing. I didn't see their levels until the end but I heavily assumed they were brand new players that somehow glitched into Damnation with the way no one did objectives, slow reaction times, all 3 of them dying 2 times each
zinc talon
welcome to the party pal
misty raven
I've seen 21 death heresy runs
rustic lagoon
Merry Sanguinala! Keep fighting in the God-Emperor's name!
golden badge
They were console players...maybe that explains it? I can't imagine playing a game like this with a controller
cerulean pike
i need a sound mod that changes my chastise voice line to fumiin screaming SEEEEEEGS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzPKgTuRwbs
my ass playing zealot
misty raven
They were console players...maybe that explains it? I can't imagine playing a ga...
I have. But that's because it's when I'm on my laptop at my family's with no actual desk setup. I only play zealot or ogryn so I can just slobber my way through just LMB spamming
golden badge
Fair enough reason
hidden verge
is the mk2 eviscerator good?
calm salmon
is the mk2 eviscerator good?
yes