#zealot-class
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I like this autogun, what blessings are good for autoguns?
dum dum and raking fire or deathspitter
thank you
also hey is punishment talent tree worth it?
Dum dum and fire frency?
fire frenzy works too
but dum dum for sure
why not VII?
I don't run punishment on hammer, it's basically only for attacking ragers
or blessing of nurgle mode
should i switch lacerate or flesh tearer for uncanny or precog?
otherwise doesn't do anything
and should i go momentum or blazing
lacerate to uncanny 100%
Mk VII has hit issues with the 3rd of its light, meaning you can randomly loose stacking blessings like Decimator when fighting random stuff, hampering your damage, cleave, stagger etc.
blazing cause knife crit scaling is large
This is loadout, for everything, weapons cosmetics talents, all of it
then why doesnt it fucking work
Which is really bad when your tac axe wants to do one thing, hit things and hit them continously.
You only have one?
I prefer lacerate over flesh tearer on zealot.
lacerate is a meme particularly if you have piety
ive equipped my hammer build saved it, then equipped my knife build and saved it, and when i try to switch back to my hammer build it stays on my knife build and talents
so out of the 2 you suggested what hits the hardest? II or IV
Anything is a meme.
don't fucking body shot shit on a knife
its driving me insane
Uh.
tho finally nice to have a good thunder hammer
I can clear games with my lacerate knife. 
tho it had bad perks sadly
I'm sure you can, you are a good player
but one of them atleast has some benefits
you can do basically anything
Did you add any more pages
It has only one bad perk
No I genuinely think lacerate works better for zealot. You want to get scourge stack up asap.
It doesn't matter about the bleed stack.
yes,
I dont nor didn't even know if those two mixed
Lacerate just let you have that extra chance to apply bleed on a target more than flesh tearer.
literally just light attack heads a few times and boom scourge
That's not exactly a great metric, I carry people who do nothing but shoot into chaffe all the time.
Or, even better run a crit chance blessing and activate scourge ever hit
And then get downed from behind by a pox or two 
It depends on how good you are. IV is the easiest light-spam, with all its light attacks being horizontal. Fastest special attack.
II has good heavies but vertical lights. With Headtaker+Decimator stacked you can stagger ragers with a easy headshot.
i forgot how painful it is to level when i had a game where everyone else on my team was leveling for the first time
oh my god the situation unawareness
Okay I'm just giving my opinion. Sorry. 
yeah riposte gives you 100% crit chance
Yea I carried with a fucking pre buff chain axe one time, not a good metric
chaos is half memeing don't get too serious
he is better than vast majority of players
On this episode of moving the goal posts every second
You are wasting like 30% of a knifes dmg by not hitting headshots with a knife. Having a blessing that encourages bodyshot is just bad design on a finesse-weapon.
how do you guys take screenshots of your entire skill tree at once?
is this also worth having?
I do only aim for the head.
agentchaos is a shit player because he spams assail 90% of his playtime
But as I said you not always gonna hit head.
Hello zealots. What blessings do I want in a shredder autopistol?
I run it on hammer for monstrosities and initiating fights
regardless you light twice on knife with piety and on average it's a crit
This is true I'm actually top 1% psyker. Maybe top 97% zealot. 
and you do a billion attacks per second
I think blaze away could work
This is also correct. 
blaze and pinning fire

opinions on this talent build for my knife?
though columnus brauto is a better autopistol, and columnus IAG is a better columnus brauto
wat da hell
im trying to convert from a bleed build to an actually good knife user
You guys wanna see what sadness looks like?
uh, at least drop a few of the not useful points to go left side and get duellist/until death/HR
Then you'll be sent to the ER
rock solid brick
t'is bricked
uh, I guess i dont NEED the 10% sprint speed and count as dodging while sprinting do i
that is not a brick
I just like going fast
Throw it at a guy in NYC
yes.
I mean..... you could replace both perks or replace infested and swap mercy
and it's solid either way
ill keep it
weak spot damage perks and blessings are terrible because of the way its calculated
mercy killer is just a worse precog but atleast it's not fkin smackdown
that's the best knife i've seen
in case they decide to change crafting system yknow
yeah but you can go monkey mode with mercy killer
better than infested on a knife.....
im struggling to see what i can get rid of to get enough talent points to get duelist HR and until death
yeah mercy isn't dead it's just suboptimal cause it never effects 1st hit
im 3 talent points short
Drop the sprint stuff at bottom right.
swift certainty, masters retribution, blood redemption
Only take punishment there.
already did
remove all 3
already did
Remove good balance aswell
take off good balance and the stealth toughness
I keep the stealth toughness and not take HR tbh
thanks folks
Just duelist and until death
Are there any good zealot build sources? Trying to figure out a crit built with a hammer or eviscerator.
this chat
is there a way to effectively test shit like pre-cog in psykanium
updated
Perfect Strike/Shred Mk II Evis my beloved
creature spawner mod
Also Loadout Config lets you custom make weapons.
much better
yeah im using that
the real question is
has any one as the zealot manage to get
the Warhammer 40,000?
I am the warhammer 40k
I'm trying
I figured out what i was doing wrong, I would still have the first build selected while i was making my second build and THEN i would add the second page
I was being stupid
Is base crit chance for a weapon listed anywhere in game?
Ah
Fellas
Either use mods or just look at the files.
Auric damnation smite psyker with 2 wound curios
flak is ideal on hammer now
Over elites?
u need it to special heavy oneshot the scab shooters
Other than 80/80/80
he will not rest until he gets the perfect hammer (at which point they will introduce something to invalidate all the effort)

they will release the powercreep thammer in 3 months
Laz getting a perfect Thammer a day before red items get added
Yes
a useable 550 would be ok too
Okay but fellas

shedule or skyedule
Imagine if the next Thammer has activations only on the heavies or lights and the special is a utility move
Aoe
Honestly I wish the weapons had some more elaborate combos sometimes
But at the same time I can't be arsed to DMC every rager I find
we love the crusher
And the best combo will be found and spammed anyway
I want a weapon that doesn't have a perfect horde clear combo and you cannot QQ it.
this is why I like the crucis so much, it's not combos but it's putting a lot of effort in and what not to be very effective
and I hate caxe/hsword
and spam weapons
What other melee weps do you use
I like weapons that are varied, but have intuitiveness in that variety
For example, if I have a weapon with three attacks: an overhead, a diagonal and a sweep
Both heavy and lights, they're just that simple
I don't really use any others than crucis on zealot, nothing appealing. If anything it would be the crusher
If I do the overhead, I'd want the overhead to lead into the light overhead
I save braindead for other classes
yo dawg I heard you like H2
Your initial way to reach the heavy stab is doing a light attack
You do L1, which is a light stab, and the next heavy is H2, a heavy stab
But if you try to use a light again, it's a different one
Ok but L1 tho
It's not the L1 stab, but another light
So in this combo, you are only capable of using L1 once before the game blocks you out of it
I like how H2 entirely invalidates the special
It's not intuitive, why the fuck do the stabs not chain into each other?
the force swords all have a very meh design from a mechanics perspective
Illisi is still fun to me tho
I don't think it's a hot take to say that if Deimos wasn't overtuned people would just hate it. wuch a silly weapon.
But its not big brain
And the new chainsword has a specific heavy that charges faster than the other two, I think H2
illisi is just spammy as fuck
And the combo for that heavy isn't a light-heavy alternation
You need to do two lights each time you do that heavy
none of them are interesting and the special (in general i dont like how most activation weapons play, but esp on obscurus/deimos) is poorly designed
Lest you get stuck with the slow charge heavies
I played illisi for like a week when I was crying about hammer animation cancel being removed and the whole delay still being there
psword-style weapons are poorly thought out
yeah
shouldnt exist as they do
Illisi is honestly incredibly boring
I like weapons that are deliberate, but not clunky
i like activations that change how a weapon functions, eg crusher or crucis
Knife, for example
ironhelm/illisi/psword are boring af
Knife is not clunky, but it's nothing short of deliberate
You have to aim the hits, you can overextend with the massive mobility and sometimes do 180 flicks
Sadly this isnt common
LMFAO
Thunder hammer used to honestly be a really boring weapon too
Usually the special is nothing or "make the weapon do what it already does better"
"press button to have a better weapon" is dogshit
Back when activating was the way to deal damage, the weapon was incredibly one-note
Every problem you had was the power sword solution
Activate, hit, activate, hit
I mean crucis has been awesome to use since release for me
it's never been activate only
you just needed a good roll
crucis has been consistently cool since i started playing
and that was hard
its an activation weapon where u cant spam the activation
I personally like the new chain axe. the weapon special always feels like a decent tradeoff because the uncharged heavy is actually decent.
Speaking of activations
And you also kind of need to know how to melee
yea
I was expecting the new shovel to be like idfk a RWBY weapon
Where you flip the shovel to get a new moveset
yea gimme switch-shovel
Im not even sure what other weapons require me to actually be good at melee other than like shovel
my ogryn buddy that played with me all the time was like wow crucis is obviously the best weapon, and then made a zealot and played with hammer and went.... oh wait this is actually difficult
It having a funny poke is fun, but it's also basically another thunder hammer, another deimos, another power sword
I had the same hope. you know what they say about hope...
And I'd fucking adore for weapons to have that moveset change and be able to weave that into the attacks
So you get two movesets in one and are able to flip between them mid-combo
Stance change weapon special
crusher is awful if u approach it like a hsword/caxe
Or even for the specials to be more fluid
Havent used crusher yet need to make one
You can't be hitting a dude with the shovel, hit special and immediately do a special attack as part of the combo
You do the special animation, stop what you're doing and then you do a separate attack
Damn now i feel bad for using the dumb shit 😭
You also have stuff like needing to attack after a special
The special has a light and a heavy attack
That's the exact function of the left mouse button
Why could I not just hold the special for a special heavy or tap the special for a special light?
Why can I not use the special button mid-combo with the illisi to make the next attack powered instead of stroking my sword and doing one of two fixed attacks, those being the first light or the first heavy?
just miss 4head
problem is there isn't a meaningful difference for something like that
it adds pointless complexity which isn't really doing anything
Depending on the moveset it can have some purpose
not on an illisi thats for sure
The illisi's H1 L2 combo is entirely horizontal
I can't make that entire combo with special attacks without interrupting it
the issue with that is that ur just making the weapon worse because a special h1 is better than special l2
like yea, you could always l1 then activate, but usually the extra light isn't needed
and if you do need an extra light, using block cancel and shoving is better
ILLISI?
psword-style weapons should just die and they should make more interesting weapons out of the corpses of them
Knife is a weapon with an interesting special, if sometimes a bit redundant
cry about it? It's functional
They should be more interesting but i doubt this happens honestly
dude pls
You have access to the same heavy by doing a heavy, doing a special and then a light, or doing a push attack
It's literally the same attack
i've been doomering for a fkin week about how bad ogryn is and how unlikely it is theyll make the class have anything at all with more complex mechanics you can opt into
Like i just dont see it being on FS's priority list rn
ogryn is in a weird spot
Esp since its not a complaint i see often
no part of using glorious melee is disgraceful and you shame he on the throne by wasting his name on something so trivial
nice ones, here's mine:
ok lets be fair
the fucking illisi btw
Another thing I'd appreciate more would be directional attacks, but that can admittedly be weird for a game with the enemy density of Darktide
he revived crusher
Fair
Yeah, the illisi. And I'm warp-charging my blade mid combo.
the activate h1 loop god weapon that used to be the melee weapon after psword nerf
okay now that ive played a flesh tearer uncanny crit knife build.... I get it now
that's not arsgshdgda
that dude worked some magic
Like actually deciding where your attack is going
Isn't this just like
i was wrong
ahahha okay dude you don't even know how to list your chains if you don't put activation in there and expect people to guess
bleed is bad crit is good
This knife kinda good but it's mk3. 
Why not just use all grey gear
welcome kindred, to the light side
is very nice, I've never rolled thrust 4 outside of melk after hundreds of hammers 
but yeah i don't really see weapons like that getting reworked. it is what it is
What if you could grab the mk5 dueling sword, but the first two lights are not upwards diagonals, instead being downwards?
I will say i still actually enjoy the special weapons but they arent interesting
what does mk5 do different from mk4 duelist?
gl man, it do be difficult considering the thammer has 10 t4 blessings
my problem is the game legitimately does not have a good balance of braindead weapons to complex ones
jsut curious
What if you could change between sweeps and more vertical attacks depending on enemy density?
too many of them are boiled down to really simple gameplay loops
ps6 is a step in the right direction
I put flak on the thammer becus of twins
that's just, using combos between heavy and lights
unless you mean a stance swap special
because they made the push attack l4 combo have a reason to exist
which i wouldn't mind
I refuse to believe there's this trained killer that looks at a bunch of dudes lined up and doesn't go "yeah, this slashing weapon would benefit from a horizontal attack right now"
the void shield is flak
Ps6 is interesting but still overtuned imo
I mean shit like Mount and Blade, Mordhau, Chivalry
My sibling in the emperor, you decide the attack patterns when you choose light vs heavy
i mean ngl a weapon with as dogshit mobility stats as it has
Like i don't find it hard enough to use for its power
kinda needs something going for it
You don't grab a weapon that can do a sweep, you make the weapon do the sweep
its a fundamental limit of tide games and its the whole reason movesets exist
It does but i kinda feel like it has literally everything else going for it
Weapons you grab are limited by the moveset unfortunately
If you don't like the weapon having a specific attack, get fucking fucked, it's there
the rework i want is to make the moveset on psword much more limiting
yea, I wouldn't mind a weapon with a stance switch but a lot of weapon's skill expression comes from proper combo's
For example, the first light on the mk5 DS has a shit hitreg
Y'all are silly lmao
I can't just not use it
taking that away for "game decides your swings for you" is stupid
i ragged on psword for a long time because it was completely safe pre-patch 13
what if I want to overhead to hit a crusher in a horde
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Yeah its moveset isnt super complex
The game won't decide the swings, you will
because elites were less dense, you could stagger basically any elite on your screen
what if I want to sweep to hit a bulwark
Its not hard to figure out when to do what
You do exactly that
nowadays a psword being able to stagger 2-3 ragers isn't actually as safe
as it used to be
i think fatshark should add a big red join button for this chat on the zealot skill tree
yes you do it in this version, but what you seem to be suggesting is that the game doesn't do certain attack cause???
and some random meme too
part of the issue is BM distorting movesets and the activation giving so much cleave imo
heavies on a mk6 psword have an extremely niche application
like i asked crab
right after p14 came out
The game doesn't do specific attacks because the moveset doesn't want it to and sometimes it comes as a detriment
but anyways, if you don't like mk5 duelist L1, use push attack or h1 then continue the combo
Yeah i run voc with it for a reason, its defense is ass except blocking which is mid in this game anyway
powersword is dumb.
"when you do a push attack but you need a move with more cleave right after"
and its like
ah man
this is gonna happen so often
Do you guys think they will ever make the boltgun feel decent to use? It's so overwhelmingly clunky I want to use it but just can't stomach its animations...
ok so, different buttons for different weapon attacks (strike down, sweep, etc etc)
But that's part of the problem
but, that would just lock the game out for console players
It's not even that I don't like it specifically, it just isn't working properly
i wish the only variant that existed was a more single target version of the ps6 and it basically existed to hurt armor
So I end up having to avoid it entirely and limit myself from a specific part of the weapon
tide games have a good balance for melee between skill floor being low enough you only need 3 buttons for it and that it has skill expression from doing combos
mk3 psword facerolling through maps until p13 was such an awful thing
This is my main issue, i saw that mk6 destroyed armor but then horde clear is still absurd
Depending on the system, they don't need different buttons for everything, but it's also something that would need a bit of work and testing
now its mk6 psword facerolling and then aiming at a head to stab someone
what you are arguing for is basically removing a core pillar for your personal preference
I guess?
No it was ruined with the nerf sir, completely limp sadly
Isn't that what we do with crafting system complaints?
mk6 has that sick nasty push attack
the bad dodges do at least get you fucked in some pretty funny ways
Why tf are you Japan
no one loves the crafting system
but the buff it was given described ps6 as "the more defensive version"
and its like... the single target dps is just better than mk3 lmao
you, stan, you
And thus everyone is asking for a core part of the game to be changed for personal preference
Yeah its literally a glass cannon weapon
a tons of players, including myself, enjoy the combat flow of melee in tide games and don't want that changed for someone jsut spams the sweep button or spam the overhead button or spam the thrust button depending on situation
No defense past blocking which is like the worst option in this game but you can stagger or murder everything
i mean blocking is only bad once u hit 0 stam
Mf devils claw is more defensive
it does its job just fine until then
dude do u not know about the ghost anim bug
dclaw will actually lie to you
if you get hitstaggered when you press the input
devil's claw is one of the most defensive weapons tho lol
even in psykh
It does although its usually just a means for me to safely dodge out or range of like ragers
I think I can salvage this stupid fucking revolver
it'll play a fkin ghost anim thats only client side
swing patterns also differentiate between variants
funniest shit ever when i saw telopots reproduce it
which is like, how are you going to differentiate variants if everyone can swing the weapon exactly how they need for the situation
That's a variant problem, honestly
hey question so is it better having health or toughness curious as zealot?
u have better luck than me
i go to dodge ragers
hit bruiser
panic
swap to gun
hope to god i brought something that staggers ragers
toughness
The game is built with the idea that if you get your hands on a weapon that looks slightly different, you suddenly forget how to do an overhead
Both
I prefer toughness
2x and 1x of either your preference
All wounds baby martyrdom big damage. 
Nuh uh, you forgot the 4th curio
trappers dont really fuck me
unless ragers have swarmed me like bees to a foreign entity
and pressed me into a corner i cannot move out of
I am glad they made it so they wouldnt shoot again on stagger
i had that happen on mercantile end event
Makes them easier to deal with
rager swarm, get surrounded, bomber nade, trapper
i didn't realize the game had sent the fucking HIT SQUAD so i wasn't really ready for it
Today I was doing the uhhhh
Shit was mad cringe when they just sat there fucking spamming it
Cryo container finale map thingy
dude u wanna see the funniest fkin shit ever
And in the middle, where you go to a train station with a health station to the right up a small set of stairs
spot the jank
completed all the zealot penances
I actually didnt realize they changed it till someone tols me cause i got so used to just never trying to stagger them with a push
finally
I could basically see her legs
oh i thought it would be the yo-yo net incident
no this is actually
Welcome to the cowl club comrade
even more fucked
good thing they patched this from happening anymore
Damnit I gotta do 2 more missions for this damn contract

Still need hm?
mutie runs at me, dodge it and the trapper, trapper staggered (doesn't fire), fires again while im sliding
Im busy for Christmas for a bit but yes
mutie turns around, hits psyker who is at 100 peril but not in death anim
and fkin instakills him
trappers are most fair
thank you
ancient got fucked
its the completely silent bursters that tilt me the hardest
lmaooooo
Bursters and trappers in my case
Is dead quiet
they fucked audio prio so hard for busters
these dudes are fucking NINJAS
half the time im at half hp or less and someone asks "what happened" its
"sniper didn't play the audio cue properly so i had 50 ms to dodge" or
"burster walked up to me in a horde and i couldnt see or hear it until it jumped at me"
very rarely
Early Christmas present from Hadron
at long last... Thrust IV
prolly gonna play around with this ironhelm a bit before i add it to the book for my crucis
Oh it's only one Mission thank god
I wanna get the hell off zel so I'll just do this kill mission
You're basically stacking paper
In a good way
How dis? Just dipping toes in for revolver
my drunk ogryn brain fails to understand your analogy
Anything I need to change?
crucian to surgical and sprint to maniac, ideally wouldn't have infested
we had a psyker yesterday that blamed our movespeed on his deaths
we were simply too fast
Yeah, funnily enough this was a psyker as well
i was also a psyker, lol
no dude dont you know you have to fight the horde in the back for 30 minutes
playing the forbidden gunker though
How dare i get to the scan event to get out of a mission that was already over 30 mins
Its always the people who cant even clear a horde fast
Like we were all on the elevator one time and a psyker just kept fighting infinitely spawning shit with smite as slowly as possible and then yelled at us for not helping
Like can you not move and fight 2 poxwalkers
Funnily enough, this psyker also fought the infinitely spawning mobs at the elevator
For like
2 minutes
I grabbed a cup of coffee while waiting
darn i had one too
maybe its the same person
actually that psyker later died
quit
“forbidden” more like full of swag
and we finished the run no problem with new guy
this guy stuck through it, terrible dmg
how the fuck do you speedrun the "waiting for gameboy" finale
need to pump dem dps numbahs
weird way to spell plasteel reserve‼️‼️💯🗣️🗣️
buy the gameboy colour version
imagine trying to aim with this
thats cheating
oh
apply action replay
actually surprised there hasnt been any crazy speedrun skips found yet
given how common they were in vt2
tho i suppose many of those were only possible cause BW can teleport
considering how much they dont want you to speedrun they probably made way more sure than they had to that you cant
cant wait for the next big patch where they remove knife running too
they already took duel movetech
knife doesnt deserve to have it either
Maybe that's why trappers can shoot through walls?
lol
I don't think they like barrels
Now that my contracts are done for the week (besides psyker but I don't like playing psyker) I can go back to vet
people call moving forward constantly speedrunning aka they are just idiots
How to get reported 101 💀
Lmao yea
And some people call 30 minute runs speedrunning
30 minutes is even long on most maps
all these luigis hopped up on speed
zooming around grabbing rings, eating chili dogs
dunno how to change that but even in auric hishock you constantly get people who literally stand and fight everything and never move
HELLO
Laz merry Christmas Eve
Chili dogs???
That's linguini
Hairy Christmas
gotta break out the jack skellington tree for ol' stan once more
Hairy?
I was just talking about Jack skellington with my aunt
I finally read the patch notes from the 19th today since I've been omegagrinding warframe
Does the power level bug fix mean overpressure now actually works?
Oh my god I hate you
"Psykers and vets are squishy" guy told me you don't need to build zealot to be tanky
I love Reddit delusionalism
Time to eat a crusher overhead with a 0 talent zealot
They are, after all, tanky
going to that reddit should be classified as self harm
Yummy
And this is why auric with pubs takes like 30 minutes and I hate it
go listen to music or something
what power level fix
Overpressure fix would be huge
All I got was 100 to buy Baldur's Gate and then spent the 30 on gacha and the last remaining on aquillas
Idk if this was a preview or is out
Haven't played darktide in ab a week
I think it was worth it for a eve gift
afaik this is unrelated to overpressure, overpressure is mislabeled in the code
Why would you spend 30 on gacha
i also don't see these notes
Then what am I thinking of in regards to power level
some things I think, idk which, were power level and not power
Yeah I know there were more
Just not which ones
wasn't that power fix like a year ago
I wanted to pull for a greencat
anyways the overpressure bug is cause it's it's ranged_power
This is from the post on December 19th 2023
and not power
that's not in the recent patch
Sour patch kids
what
Sorry I’ve had wine
Give me some
prepare for your name changes gentlemen
Or I'll blow your house up
stan
Fatshark finally letting us rename?
release me from this prison
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-2-22/89770 these are the most recent changes, just some bug fixes
Devoted Rejects, Here are the patch notes for 1.2.22, which just went live on Steam and will shortly be live on our other platforms. Fixes Fixed an issue where players could remain soft-locked at the end elevator of the Orthus Offensive mission when dealing too much damage to the Karnak Twins in the double ambush encounter. Fixed an issue wher...
do backstab kills count only for melee hits?
No
Damn you fatshart
no stan just can't type
What a sillyhead. I definitely do not suffer from the same issue
We
Wtf
Yeah that's right
Are you jel
no im dough
Give me the fucking wine or the house and squidwards house gets it
What did squidward do to provoke this?
not squidward’s house😢
If only my randoms were faster 😔 I can only manage 30-35 most missions.
stuff like TRS-150 Relay Station or Hab Dreyko can go lower
give or take depending on finale/mid event fuckups
Please do not 😭
Big fucking nose
please do in spite of them
I usually just tell at the randoms to keep up with me
I fucking hate this
the ketchup dispenser
😄
Is this alright? What should I change?
Weapons
wrath to rampage or deathblow
@hushed agate @calm salmon Thanks
Your welcome citizen
shame about the perks
Wrath to deathblow, unyielding to maniac
already changed first blessing
so just wrath to rampage(IMO)
Well then just deathblow
Deathblow is better as it allows for significantly better cleave
You still blender hordes with(And everything not a crusher really) with rampage and it does funny things to your pushes because rampage is power now
Can someone help please.
I cannot understand ''mk2 tigrinus heavy eviscerator'' push atack, wide attack patern. for me after push atack next light or heavy always do overhead?
Holy shit you can clear uprising now
Heavy>Light
Heavy>lightlightlight>heavy
Push attack>light>heavy
Guys, I found the ACOG
I saw creators do that thing with push attack, light (but it is wide somehow)
are you using the same mark of evisc
yep mak 2
Nak 2
Jak 2
Can't fault me for liking to implement shoves into the gameplay loop
Headtaker rampage does work tbf
and power buffing shoves is great
It does work
Its pretty comedic power
But
Its not bis anymore
Clearing multiple ragers in one swing
Funi power is always the best kind of power
Is hilarious
you NEED +maniac for this
along with all the martyrdom buffs
Rampage/Headtaker/Deathblow are still BiS
No.
Rampage+Headtaker
I dunno. I tried that and I had to have +maniac, deathblow, and martyrdom
and it worked on the strikedown
which is incredibly hard to setup
The 6 is better
Ill have to test it
heavy swords take way more finesse and its way less likely(On the mark 9) to actually realistically setup the multi-kill on ragers
due to the tiny hitbox
I kind of wish they didn't up the headshot priority for weapons
I have to go out of my way to not hit a maulers head
With what weapon
considering that's the only problematic enemy
Swords
Swords always had head prioirty.
whats the minimum mobility I should have on a knife?
Only the tank lights for heavy swords had torso.
They did on Ogryn
Doesn't really matter, dodges are set at 5
I've never bothered to really check with other weapons
isnt mobility kinda important on knives tho?
Yeah you are forgiven
aight so this aint bad
3 dodges on my 48 mobility mk15 hurts my heart
Yeah thats fine lol
nice
still manageable tho
brink incoming stay tuned
I like mk3 quite a bit
good moveset 
DAMN
Mk6 puts me off honestly
I could never use the knives
aight i can work with this
but mk3 is just carpal tunnel the weapon
Brink
I'm not British so I could never get into the art of shanking and running thee pockets
surprisingly effective too
Figgured it out, I should have held left click after push
well if im doin a crit bleed setup methink crit chance is good right?
TNX
regardless im swapping sprint speed so ill play with it a bit
call of duty zealot reporting in
And knife crits plenty
crit chance is realllllly nice for Invocation cdr
veteran, actually.
You can run crit chance if you want but it is not my recommendation
Best elite TTK, horde clear is on par with the 9
You basically
Get what the 9 is
But better
I run the weirdest build for vet knife
Cause you kill elite packs like
Also mercy to uncanny
10-15 seconds faster from memory
6 also looks the best
he run chainaxe tho
I would hesitate to call myself good at infil 
Still not sure how to use it on enemies
great for objectives at least
plasma gun
is it just me
so I have a way to thin hordes out
or is monstrosity silo cluister
yeah then you can run whatever you want in melee
the hardest pug mission in the game
whats making the elite clear so much better tho, is it just better armor adjusts on the heavies?
main problem with pugs is when they cant deal with crushers/bulwark/ patrols/etc (all together)
plasma save pugs from that issue
Vet... knife ?
I see you've turned away from God's light
It quite literally just kills elites quicker
Dawn did a side by side somewhere
But mobile sucks to find shit so
9 kills faster, 6 has better angle for elite deathblow chains.
the finale
okay imma give it a try, which one
I just spent basically all my ordos yesterday so im working with limitations here
assuming defence is giga dump again as usual
is bloodletter actually valid on chainaxe
left one wrath to Deathblow or Rampage
figured yeah
critchance to maniac probably, need to test breakpoint
if you cant kill mutant in a single strike
then go maniac
usually went with rampage before because I basically only run revolver anyway but I guess imma give deathblow a shot
sure does
off to the races I gues
and people say itemization is hard 
mk12 you can do funny heavy rev cancel to lose all your stam but apply 16 stacks instantly
but generally no
cause you would do more instant damage by just using thrust and keeping the hit going
Pros and cons of deathblow vs rampage on HS?
you can try both, since headtaker is important there
if you dont like deathblow go rampage and viceversa
is the breakpoint calculator not working for anyone else?
deathblow require some effort on your part
rampage is braindead slashing (my favorite huehue)
deathblow requires the most minimal aim…
Yea left one take deathblow and maniac instead of critical
virgin careful thoughts and combo execution vs chad mash button
I went for maniac instead of unarmored becaus I am giga smart 
What gun is everyone pairing with their HS?
what a mistake
well I sure like how much this fucks ragers and muties at least
seems pretty interchangable for everything else so far with 9 but thats just the most first of impressions
Yeah
Basically means you won't be left at 1%
So long as you hit shit
I remember when a yt comment told me not to use HR with UD because restoring faith could cover it
well, you can eat skullcrusher for another go at it
just put skull crusher in your picture book and have it available for all future rolls
yeah heavy VI is fun
ribbed for their pleasure
It's a christmas miracle
Idk if Peddler sells the same wares to everyone every hour, but if he does, there's a 378 revolver on atm
Nah everyone's store is unique
nope
Aw that's shitty
tragically
Well, time to hunt Surgical 4 then
fucking finally got this penance
Hab Dreyko's basically never been available on Damnation when I've been on, FINALLY got it and managed to get through it (this time it was Hi-Intensity Sniper Gauntlet Vent Purge lmao)
+3 Stamina, +20% Stam Recovery and +30 BCR feels comfy af
take the auxiliary-melee-buff pill
Is there a consensus as to which knife is better or is each just good at their own things
secondary question do the knives care about different blessings
idk about your first question
but second question
knife does absolutely care about blessings
you need uncanny strike
idk the second blessing, i dont use knife, in fact i kinda hate knife
Well I’m more asking do the knives have different blessing preferences
but you need uncanny strike
is all that i can say
you need uncanny strike on both knives
it's either uncanny + something or double bleed
most 'pros' on here call double bleed a joke
double bleed lol
double bleed gets memed on hard. dont use it
Mercy killer + flesh tearer is pretty damn good with invocation cdr
bro pls
never used it i'm just going from what people said, i only have flesh tearer uncanny so far
im begging use uncanny bro please im begging
any weapon that has access to uncanny, should almost always use uncanny
knife included
would use mercy killer + uncanny on vet but zealot doesn't have bleed
i was hoping you'd come in here
counterpoint: no
and post your memes

so not sure what to go with tbf
also I don’t have uncanny 4 yet so mercy killer and flesh is the best I can do lol

Merry Xmas chat
bruh use uncanny 3
Why does the bleed knife have a One-Man Hate Cult dedicated to it?
one man
nuh uh
it's not a one man cult

bleed knife is a known joke amongst 'pros'
its a memetic virus
are those "pros" in the room with us
you get a free badge that says "pro" on it when you decide to main zealot and talk here
who here doesnt have the badge
For real tho which would y’all say is better with crit mercy killer build, flesh or lacerate?
out yourself
like on average
zealot is ez af
flesh is always better than lacerate if you really wanna run bleed
jokes aside, mercy killer is useless since you won't have a free bleed like vet i'd assume, so what would you go with
allow me to introduce u to scourge
Merry... CHRISTMAS!
I take it with flesh and it’s pretty fun and good
You prefer running mercy killer on vet I think
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Never thought I’d play zealot much less use the knife, then both ended up being my favorites
Turns out going fast is fun
It's the closest I can come to reliving Tribes Ascend
FRA
tribes is famously a knife game
Play knife on all human classes.

What even counts as a "successful dodge"?
something woulda hit u if u aint dodge
it's when you dodge poverty by being born rich
You took this long to type so little
Which wouldn't be a problem, if you actually said something
Me when I dodge my taxes (it gives me 50% resistance to the IRS)
i just assume anything that makes the whooshing sound before it hits you counts as a successful dodge if you dodge that, hard to say though
Solution
I'm just going to test it
what would yall change on this?
got 1 modification left
and hand cannon 4 in my sticker book
would be fun if it was the same for everyone
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ok it's only melee attacks
Yeah no shit
It's why I'm testing this
I wanna see what counts
witnessed another knife man stand in a horde and come out doing 200k less than me and my humble HS
do people just love RSI so much
yes
RSI?
it was carneval finale too so he was standing in the middle meleeing a horde for like 20 seconds and barely killing shit it seemed
while we stood in the funnel
Repetitive strain injury
Nah you can dodge ranged
Not from gunners
I guess I should have tested normal shooters as well
very sad
anyone who gets RSI from using knife just hasnt been gaming for long enough, my fingers are like Titanium
the ones getting carpal tunnel are weak
Yes. You can.
It’s harder but it’s possible
I use gunners to regen my toughness before a horde fight
I mean machine gunners


