#zealot-class

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crisp plaza
onyx solar
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I'm sorry

rancid fern
light holly
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the issue being a 60 finesse may have a chance not to meet a breakpoint, also it's a finesse weapon

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It's an important stat is what I'm getting at

rancid fern
spark raven
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why do i feel so frail on HS Zealot?

olive raven
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And uhhhh

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Lemme do some calculation to see which perk to replace

olive raven
spark raven
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Im a non Stealth build if that matters?

spark raven
dense field
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No idea

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Probably not enough toughness

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And no gunner resist

limpid pike
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the zealot meta is praying hard enough to the emperor

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all you need is faith, steel, and gunpowder

dense field
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And gunner resist instead of sniper resist

crisp plaza
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I think I was happier playing on malice and using my level 30 vet with blue weapons

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Before I tried my hand at hadron

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Before I knew how crafting worked

ember yew
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welcome to the club

crisp plaza
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It wasn’t until this damn mission with the twins actually

crisp plaza
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I was dying too fast

light holly
olive raven
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@crisp plaza smackdown to uncanny, crit damage to uh maniac or flak I think maniac would be better tho

light holly
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And blazing piety is really good with charge

light holly
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You also probably want to take vicious offering to regain toughness

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Especially if you're running that heavy sword

spark raven
olive raven
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If you are fine parting with stun grenades use this. Last point I’d recommend good balance or duelist

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Plus 3 of these

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Duelist/Swift Certainly/Good Balance/Faithful Frenzy are all fine option

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Dawn runs a similar build and drops I think momentum on dodge, the 2nd chastise charge and a couple other things

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So tweak it to your liking

spark raven
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im running 2 Toughness and one Hp curio and sadly Wrath instead of Rampage go locked in. wehy can i change both blessings on my knife but not on my sword

lean lark
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the perfect hsword talent tree

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my magnum opus

light holly
spark raven
light holly
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Nope

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Once you locked in its locked

dense field
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You can only change two things

spark raven
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i wish every game had total build freedom in every aspect with zero restrictions

dense field
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After that you're stuck

light holly
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I wouldn't mind if FS let us remove the lock buut that's how it is rn sadly

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You do want to be very careful, I have bricked very good weapons and still do because I didn't think hard enough what to add on

spark raven
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id wish the was a way to alter weapon stats where can recallocate stats for ressoucess

dense field
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At least get flak instead of unyielding

olive raven
olive raven
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You’ll hit more breakpoints

lean lark
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i mean objectively it cannot get better

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except martyr instead of momentum

olive raven
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I mean TWBS is sitting right there

royal vortex
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i present to u

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killing a stationary gunner

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(very impressive)

ember yew
olive raven
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it’s not bad tho tbh

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You can live without rampage

light holly
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Me dying without rampage

olive raven
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headtaker is the majority of the power for blessings

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Hence why death blow and rampage are used as secondary

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The extra cleave just makes it slightly better at horde clear

light holly
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Is there no limit to cleave?

ember yew
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there is limit to # of targets that receive damage

keen silo
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worth building?

ember yew
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tho rampage shouldnt boost your cleave

keen silo
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penetration seems a bit low

ember yew
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since its not power, its damage

dense field
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It is power fatshark

dense field
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It shouldn't be

light holly
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It says damage

spark raven
ember yew
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Fartshart: Outplayed.

plucky gate
open echo
steel agate
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Mmm hammer

hushed agate
light holly
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Fatshark pls

open echo
hushed agate
open echo
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i have got pox damage 3 times on hammer now

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(good ones too)

steel agate
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But there’s always poxes to kill wtfgryn

hushed agate
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Poxes arent hard to kill

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Extra damage on them is meaningless

steel agate
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Hard no, numerous? Yea

open echo
steel agate
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A lil quicker execution can help but that might be me spending misinformation again Sitgryn

hushed agate
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You already isnta kill them 10% literally does nothing

open echo
spark raven
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For fucks sake make Crafting less expensive maintaining multiple builds on multiple classes makes me like perma ressource starved

hushed agate
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You do not use all of those

open echo
light holly
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You just need to get 1 god roll of every weapon Smart

spark raven
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id like a dev that directly incorporates player feedback and directly works with the player base but a lot of them do the exact opposite

light holly
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Well I mean

hushed agate
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Could need 2

light holly
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FS has their own philosophy

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We do have play testers also giving feedback

hushed agate
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If you never stop grinding you never stop playing loregryn

spark raven
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zealot is my most played class but gunlugger ogryn im more consitent with

olive raven
copper hawk
hushed agate
copper hawk
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LMFAO

lean lark
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feel bad for 100% winrate

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i guess you're right

naive star
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Was this the good Chainsword?

copper hawk
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LULZ dawn

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u MDADDE

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u AMGY

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bwehehe..

hushed agate
lean lark
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got me!

hushed agate
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What do i win

lean lark
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win deez

hushed agate
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I do not want your nutz

copper hawk
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NOOOH

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dawn im sowwy..

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pweaze..

lean lark
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what

keen silo
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is this worth getting from melk?
2.3k

naive star
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See nothing wrong in it myself atleast, but im a week old noob

copper hawk
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and get the full auto mod

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turns into a lawnmower

keen silo
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stability is low

copper hawk
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73% is p high

frosty herald
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As a crit kant

copper hawk
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mg1a full auto mod my beloved

keen silo
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man i was wrong
it feels good hitting bosses super hard with the crucis hammer

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but still need to work on horde clearing

dense field
keen silo
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guys a small suggestion
Should i start from scratch on this?

cunning marlin
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perks/blessings for bolter? using it for monstrosities/bosses

keen silo
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or try roll to end on this

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cant really say which one is the better interms of overall dmg

copper hawk
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Higher finesse one

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Datz the 1 u want

keen silo
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okay

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what is finesse actually?

ornate bone
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whats the diff between the new and old hammer

hushed agate
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Weakspot damage

mossy scarab
keen silo
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yea..

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the 2nd one aslo got SHit blessings and perks

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amma have to get new fodder

light holly
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it determines crit stuff

keen silo
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OHHH

hushed agate
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Really? I thought it was weakspot

keen silo
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thank you
did not know that

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weakspot and atk speed

light holly
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Yeah

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it's very important

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coulda sworn it had crit...

keen silo
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i keep getting trauma

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is it worth getting on the dclaw?

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i was thinking rampage and savage sweep

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as standard

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idk

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what u guys think

dense field
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I think it's not worth

keen silo
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as blessings?

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oh right gotcha

flat anvil
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Need help with just a flesh wound we are two level 30 zealot

hushed agate
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Because my opinion is more importantchadgryn

light holly
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😌

light holly
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Well Savage Strike

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Rampage

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Shred

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@hushed agate Oh no yeah Crit too

hushed agate
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Thought it was just weakspotloregryn

heavy arch
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what goes on in players brains when they dont open chests

ornate bone
heavy arch
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screw u im poor

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open chests!!!!!!!!

hushed agate
heavy arch
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just press e bro

hushed agate
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People are impatient

hushed agate
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He's so talented

ornate bone
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bought that cat emote in the store

flat anvil
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Need help with just a flesh wound we are two level 30 zealot

keen silo
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whats better
savage sweep/rampage?

drowsy jackal
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better is subjective because they do different things so it depends on the weapon

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if you can already one-shot, then cleave is going to be stronger

drowsy jackal
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if you have a need to one-shot a certain enemy in mixed crowds or if t rampage hits a breakpoint, it's going to be very good on that weapon

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it also obv increases the total damage that gets split across all cleaved enemies

vagrant blade
copper hawk
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Usually they're taken together

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Like on the evis

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Sav sweep iv raises the cleave cap from 8 to 16

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When paired with rampage, which increases power and damage, meanz ur a monstar in melee

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The old evis i mean

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If u ran the impact on hit talent w that u can do some goofy stuff

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Like staggering ragers

deep sapphire
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Anyone trying to get the just a flesh wound penance here?

glass pelican
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for the just a flesh wound one just do the twins on heresy

deep sapphire
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oh thank you thats smart. Anyone looking to group up for it? its a private match penance

glass pelican
deep sapphire
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oh wow

glass pelican
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just make sure to take the damage quickly

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and try to avoid going down

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while it is short you can easily fail it

copper hawk
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Alternatively just do an assassination mission on heresy

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Have a buddy kill u w a barrel

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Play w one wound the rest of the match

fleet zealot
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@copper hawk

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Huh

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My video didnt send

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There we go

buoyant pecan
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cica made it into ready or not

shadow spruce
hushed agate
copper hawk
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Izu my bemeowved

shadow spruce
hushed agate
ripe heron
hushed agate
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Mutants do like no damage

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
copper hawk
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Shleeoooorp

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Banditell moar like

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Bandit SMELL

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Bwhehehehee..

buoyant pecan
sly shadow
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as zealot i feel much more of a help to team than when im ogryn. with ogryn tho i basically provide constant cc as the value i guess

north sedge
shadow spruce
ornate bone
shadow spruce
mossy scarab
ember yew
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Feels like you guys didnt met decent ogryns

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for me its reversal

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Ogryns can do better most things that i can do

mossy scarab
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Zealots also outpsyker the psyker. Oh you have Jazz Hands? Well I have a sharp bit of metal

sterile schooner
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damnit. downed at 14th mission during my attempt at flawless execution. got careless

mossy scarab
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Just do them all on sedition and then unisntall because that might be the most boring 8 hours of play ever

sterile schooner
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has to be on malice or higher

ember yew
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you can just alt f4

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at that moment

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and leave the mission after relogin

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i did that one with a friend

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while i survived entire 15 missions, he was downed like 3 times

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it worked around 1+ month ago

sterile schooner
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i did try that but i was probably too slow, got careless and panicked when i saw i was about to go down

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i'll keep that in mind for next time i try for the penance though

ember yew
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so he received the penance too later after me (since he was altf4'ing)

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so i assume it should still work

sterile schooner
fleet zealot
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extra floofed for winter

sterile schooner
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tbh i kinda did it on a whim, was leveling up my ogryn through malice and got it to 3/5, figured i'd switch to my lv30 and get some contracts done while getting it to 5/5 then just kept going

sharp zodiac
copper hawk
jaunty grove
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This how I be playing zealot

fleet zealot
copper hawk
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NO

sharp zodiac
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I play zealot as either

A. A homeless Californian crack addict who just got loaned 200 dollars to spend on crack and meth

Or B.

Helicopter

sturdy owl
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If I'm using the heavy sword, is it worth taking the good crit talents like invocation of death/scourge/enduring faith?

steel agate
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I prefer the term flame sprinkler for the 2nd one Sitgryn

sharp zodiac
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Unless you're running a Crit build

sturdy owl
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I assume that means taking blazing piety

drifting wolf
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is it worth sacrificing a few points to get twbs for a crit build, feels kind i'm kind of tight on choices

sharp zodiac
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Hsword not being one of them despite being so braindead easy because the other keystones are just better for it

cobalt birch
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is there a big difference between the MK3 and the MK6 knife

mossy scarab
cobalt birch
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i meant MK6 not MK4

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whicch is better between them

shadow spruce
drifting wolf
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i could drop sustained assault, disdain or faithful fury/redoubled zeal to get TWBS but i'm not sure if i want to do that

sharp zodiac
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But that's my opinion

cobalt birch
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a lot of people use the MK3, im still new to the game, why do you prefer the mk6?

sharp zodiac
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The targeting is a better in hordes, it's still a knife so it's not gonna get the job done as well as say an evisc but I prefer it over the other knife's single target

drowsy jackal
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yeah, mk6 is more crowd oriented so that's its main draw

ornate bone
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Can I just say I hate mutants grabbing you and then a flamer spraying you while you're grabbed?

drowsy jackal
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i personally still prefer the 3 for the versatility of both but ive been tempted by the call of mk6

drowsy jackal
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yeah they should really nerf mutie fire combo

ornate bone
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Aw

steel agate
cobalt birch
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ok thanks @drowsy jackal @sharp zodiac

sharp zodiac
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They're made up

ornate bone
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I was clutching and was like "yeah bro, I got this, I can just bait the mutants into walls"

sharp zodiac
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Break them

ornate bone
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And then the flamer just took the microsecond of opportunity to down what little health I had

sharp zodiac
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Usually it's bombers for me

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Flamers i just rush down before they spray

keen silo
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so im finding it hard to see through the scope of the kantral lasgun
cant see if im killing stuff or now
is there a way to fix that

left iron
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Not without mods

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Either weapon customization to get rid of the scope, or kill streak mod

keen silo
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yea im fine using mods

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so does pious cut throat only work on the stab animation kills?

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like with push l1 attacks only?

left iron
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Should work with any kill from behind, there used to be a bug that required you to have backstabber talent from the top of the tree as well

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Im pretty sure thats not required anymore, though

keen silo
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aight ill test it on psyk

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also is there anything i can do to see stuff better in the dark

steel agate
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Mussel flash helps, kinda KEKW_ogryn

left iron
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If you mean the lights out missions, flashlight is about everything you have

frozen glen
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purgatus psyker friend

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or flamer

left iron
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Or trauma spotlight

frozen glen
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or other guys with vanilla flashlight weapons

steel agate
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Ol reliable infantry weapons usually got torches

proper sleet
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whats a good build for leveling zealot generally?

ornate bone
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Getting a combat axe with brutal momentum and that's pretty much it

olive raven
sharp zodiac
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Just use what you feel most comfortable with

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And don't bother upgrading

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You'll just be wasting

next trench
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the hell is melk smoking

opaque island
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i dunno what you want on a heavy sword but that looks p good

mossy tulip
left iron
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Man, im so sleepy but i need to stay awake for at least 3 more hours because reasons

mossy tulip
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oh actually

left iron
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Pain

olive raven
mossy tulip
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maybe deathblow

olive raven
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Good sword

mossy tulip
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just strip it

next trench
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nah this is better

olive raven
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Cleave damage is a little low but it shouldn’t fuck things up too badly

next trench
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things that you usually cleave die instantly anyways lol

olive raven
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It’s a good sword on its own & would be useful on later swords

opaque island
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i feel like some people see a not perfect roll and say ITS TRASH DELETE IT, when its still pretty good

next trench
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melk on my veteran

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holy

mossy tulip
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what are you feeding melk

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i always have shit bases

next trench
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i dont have more missions to buy these :(

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sso hes just trolling me

sturdy owl
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Agri shotgun is just budget revolver

olive raven
fading vale
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cleave damage also effects first target IIRC

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as a stat that is

olive raven
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Yea it does because it is weird

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And it applies to the first two enemies?

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I think the variance isn’t insane tho

mossy tulip
fading vale
fading vale
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over rampage

mossy tulip
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Ty🙏

fading vale
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both are viable but deathblow will let you do very silly things

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like killing several elites in a horizontal

mossy tulip
agile pivot
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all my performance gain from update 13 is gone

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back to 40 fps

mossy tulip
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Do you have ray trace on

lean lark
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it's a dmg mult to unarmoured

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for the most part

karmic whale
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headtaker & slaughterer on mk4 chainaxe is overkill or nah

north sedge
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it's never overkill

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you can also run thrust + one of those if you like

regal geode
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just finished this beauty for my crit zealot build

open echo
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was there a hotfix that wasn't shown bc my mods stopped working?

vocal pulsar
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@royal vortex has only t3 blessings on his brauto lmfao lmao

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he has 2k hours

royal vortex
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virgin

vocal pulsar
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vacuum capsule

royal vortex
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cryonic rod

coarse birch
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not even max rating curios?

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unbelievable

next trench
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she bricked it :( i dont like those blessings

royal vortex
coarse birch
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its the only way for me to feel better about not having everything i want in game as well lol

open echo
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my mods have broke for no reason

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:(

olive raven
olive raven
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WTF is Stan’s @

north sedge
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@hushed knoll ?

olive raven
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Ty

ornate bone
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Watching Rebel Moon RN and the bad guys are straight up Astra Militarum larpers

olive raven
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@hushed knoll look n learn

north sedge
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don't give him ideas to ruin

olive raven
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grandma doesn’t even use pepper

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I feel like he can’t ruin it

steel agate
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Do not doubt their expertise

open echo
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is there a mod that allows you to edit your weapons in meat grinder?

north sedge
elfin steppe
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I think it is because every other class can also kill elites fast, you don't really get to enjoy the chain sawing attack. the only scenario it shines is when your special attack hits boss's weak point.

olive raven
elfin steppe
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wat? what happened

drowsy steppe
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🙂

drowsy steppe
ornate bone
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wahappen

drowsy steppe
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and you can just switch the reload speed perk for Flak

frank night
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let the guy rest in peace

primal elm
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gaming

drowsy steppe
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the rest of the damage blessings on the IAG are all procced on kills, and its more a bonus on Zealot, since youre gonna melee most of the time

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and then theres Punishing Salvo

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🙂

spark raven
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As much like Zealot i cant deny that im more consistent with Ogryn

olive raven
elfin steppe
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I have been busy playing Rogue Trader and haven't checked messages in this channel for a few days.

copper hawk
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Ogryn get half tness on left click

olive raven
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It allows for more consistency if you are used to having the move HP, some of the highest damage, etc

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Some of most nutty damage reduction

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Like 66% by default

tepid sorrel
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💀

spark raven
olive raven
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my point exactly

spark raven
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As for ranged claases ifve grown fond of vet too

mossy tulip
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did we just get

next trench
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daaamn

mossy tulip
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like the exact same

gusty lynx
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First mildly decent dragonsbreath shotty I've found, keeper? Its from melk if that helps.

mossy tulip
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melk sword

next trench
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actual god roll

drowsy jackal
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holy shit columnus with blazing piety is stupid dude

next trench
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i keep saying that

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its my go to weapon

olive raven
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It’s like the longest crit string

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And it procs quite often

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I get it like twice a mag

drowsy jackal
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dum dum and raking fire on any enemy is so stupid nutty dude

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crit zealot is COOKING

olive raven
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CDR is sorta broken rn so 💀

olive raven
drowsy jackal
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deathspitter rocks but i dont think i need any on kill talents w how much it already spits

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but raking’s good for annoying shit like chaos spawn w/o having to aim for the head

olive raven
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that is true

ripe quest
drowsy jackal
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crit strings proccing crit strings is so silly

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love this

royal vortex
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mankar STFU

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stop typing

vocal pulsar
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HE ONLY GOT RAMAPGE 3 ON HE NEW EVIS LMFAOO LMAOO ROFLMAOOO

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HE GOT 2K HOURS

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NO RAMPAGE 4

ripe quest
ripe tiger
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So ive been looking into doing the "Just a Flesh Wound" penance. Any suggestions on the best missions for that?

olive raven
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Assassination is the quickest in general

ripe tiger
drowsy jackal
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low intensity also makes things a breeze if it's up

ripe tiger
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Just gotta get lucky on the mission board it sounds like for that

drowsy jackal
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pretty much, those are the ideal conditions but running any mission with a competent team will also just g et it done provided they understand its go quick instead of roam 20 hours for plasteel

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well, no actually. cryo rods, ammo train, and the forge are all pretty dogshit

native cargo
shadow spruce
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The duality of man

ornate bone
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THEY LITERALLY CALL THEMSELVES THE IMPERIUM

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Zach Snyder just ripping off 40k for his space movie

spark raven
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for a critbuild with a mk15 evis what blessings do i use i on it?

ember yew
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after running something similar for 2 days

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momentum buffs survivability to crazy values

drowsy jackal
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i personally prefer rampage to just clear through hordes

ember yew
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^

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rampage is basically what you need all-in-one

drowsy jackal
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the issue with evis on crit is that the bleed-crit talent only works if enemies survive enough hits to proc it

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so don't expect it to crit super often on crowds but you still clear them like a total monster bc its the goddamn evis

spark raven
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I have max rank bloodthirsty availeble

olive raven
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It’s eh

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Wouldn’t take it

misty ravine
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Bloodthirsty is more for chaining crit rev heavies

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On single targets

drowsy jackal
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bloodthirsty is acceptable but it's not really going to synergize well with a crit build because blazing piety is more about quantity

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even if the talent itself is pretty good

olive raven
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is mk15 the old or new one again

drowsy jackal
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new

olive raven
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Aight yea so

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You want this

ember yew
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old is mk2

drowsy jackal
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blue, all sweep lights, heavy strikedowns

olive raven
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Rampage and then Savage Sweep/Momentum/Shred(For crit only)

regal geode
olive raven
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And yes it’s damage capped at 4 targets but increasing cleave still has benefits

misty ravine
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Do extra targets you stagger (but not damage) with a crit cleave contribute to cdr-on-crit?

ember yew
olive raven
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Such as staggering more things, cleaving through heavier enemies, etc

olive raven
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I think it acts as it crits but on 0 damage

drowsy jackal
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even at 48? goddamn

misty ravine
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I think the breakpoint is 50 or 51 for 4 dodges

spark raven
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Anyone that can link me good crit build for the mk15 my current is a martydom build

left iron
spark raven
spark ember
drowsy jackal
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good is subjective

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that build is fine

ember yew
frozen glen
drowsy jackal
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it will perform fine enough, it has good synergy and covers all bases for hordes, bosses and elite picks

patent patrol
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I love the thunder hammers lol. Literal nukes on a stick

frozen glen
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my 200 ping muscle memory GONE

drowsy jackal
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personally i find evis performs better outside of crit builds even if it has some crit stuff going for it

spark raven
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The pinned build in this channel is for a MK2 i dont know if it would work the same for the MK15?

left iron
drowsy jackal
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there's no mk4 tech that would make that build any different from the 15 afaik

ember yew
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tho i use Laspistol with Ghost to replace TWBS

drowsy steppe
olive raven
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It’s actually relatively good

spark raven
olive raven
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I’d swap the crit chance to maniac, savage to rampage

left iron
ember yew
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that build only ok talent wise

olive raven
olive raven
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Which one

ember yew
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the first one

olive raven
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I mean first one is an easy fix

ember yew
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yes

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tho it should be obvious that Rampage > Savage Sweep

drowsy steppe
olive raven
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Swap savage sweep to rampage, toughness regen to HP, personally I’d go second wind over TDR on crit

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And crit chance to maniac

ember yew
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unless that guy really hates when his sword is stuck

olive raven
spark ember
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is it works when u take dmg to shield or only hp dmg?

misty ravine
ember yew
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yeah, that one is pretty bad

wicked forge
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oZJNRmNahc New guide out for the shroudfield knife zealot build. Had a lot of fun making this video, and would love some feedback on this popular build.

I know Knife zealots get a bad reputation, and it's well deserved, but if you play this build right, you will win a lot more games. Instead of sprinting off to our deaths, we play around our team. We'll go after team mates getting separated, kill specials and elites before they become a problem, and above all else have a good time delivering our...

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misty ravine
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Not only is the conversion rate poor, but a Martyrdom build shouldn't be taking health damage regularly because riding low HP is the whole point

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Also, just tried it in the Psykanium and the Evis XV's revved light attacks seem not to be limited to 4 targets damaged

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Bloodletter + Bloodthirster confirmed for new secret Khornate meta? 🤣

spark raven
misty ravine
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Savage Sweep to Rampage

olive raven
olive raven
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Take crit chance off the knife in exchange for maniac

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Knife already has nutty crit chance

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For your curios

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You don’t want +stam

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It’s just meh on zealot

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I’d recommend switching to 2x tough, 1x hp

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For the perks

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You don’t need combat regen, you should get enough from crit

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Toughness regen is extremely bad on zealot as coherency toughness regen is disabled within 3m of enemies

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And as a zealot you are typically in melee

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I’d keep maybe 1-2 of the stamina regen perks

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But I’d recommend 3x tough, 2x HP, 3x Gunner Res, 1x Stamina regen for the curios perks

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I prefer Restoring Faith over Voice of Terra but ig it’ll work cause I assume you are running your ranged more often

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Which I’ll confirm once I watch the video as I’m going off the build link rn

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Outside of that, the talent tree isn’t absurdly bad or anything

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It’s actually refreshing to see a talent tree being decent

spark ember
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"Toughness regen is extremely bad on zealot as coherency toughness regen is disabled within 3m of enemies" i didnt get that line 🙂

olive raven
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Aight so basically

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Toughness regen on zealot

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Due to coherency

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Sucks balls

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As zealots are in melee 99% of the time

spark raven
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Damit i messed up the perks godamit FT just give me the build freedom i want to change anything anytime i godamn pls

spark ember
olive raven
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EWEW is not the same.

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EWEW is a set speed

spark ember
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like u 100% sure about it?

north sedge
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toughness regen speed only affects coherency regen, does not affect any talents

clear knot
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yes she is

fading vale
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toughness regen speed is exclusively coherency

olive raven
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thank fuck i was right, that was abt to be embarrassing as fuck 💀

clear knot
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oh god

spark ember
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hmm...

coarse birch
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it just buffs the base toughness regen you get from being in coherency by default

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sadly

spark ember
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so its only good if u run loner aura i guess?

coarse birch
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not even then really

clear knot
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its just not worth runnign

coarse birch
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i dont think you would be getting much toughness back and if your that far out from the team your probably in melee anyway

spark ember
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guess i should switch it to sprint efficiency then... is sprint effi good thou? Or its another useless shit?

olive raven
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No.

coarse birch
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i would not run sprint effic

olive raven
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Here are a list of good perks

frozen glen
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ordo dockets

late birch
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ordo dockets, yes

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lol

coarse birch
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+HP/toughness or gunner res is BIS imo

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id also understand 1 stam regen

olive raven
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Toughness, HP, Gunner Res, Sniper Res, Stamina Regen, A couple other resistances maybe

fading vale
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gunner res, toughness, hp, ordos, sniper are only ones worth

coarse birch
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sniper res if you want to make sure your under the full wound damage BP

frozen glen
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get that passive income u beta loser

olive raven
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The typical meta is HP/Tough/gunner res

spark ember
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why only one? why not just slap 3 of those?

olive raven
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Because you lose

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Fuck loads of resistances

spark ember
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i can slap those instead of HP...

olive raven
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hp is more valuable than stamina that already regen pretty quickly

fading vale
olive raven
spark ember
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well, i see then

frozen glen
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redbheyeigo

clear knot
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huwha

spark ember
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tnx for the answers

left iron
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Yoo its recon time

olive raven
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course

ember yew
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my worst examples are something like 300k melee damage and 600k ranged damage as zealot

olive raven
ember yew
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when randoms just doesnt give an F about gunners and co

coarse birch
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ngl if your gonna run bleed i wouldnt run lacerate tho

olive raven
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But your general advice of stick with the team to a degree, use shroud early and often

olive raven
coarse birch
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doesnt the knife normally hit heads since its best horde attack is push attack which is an overhead

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guess id have to test with lacerate i usually go flesh tearer for bleed

left iron
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How else are you getting that sick bleed value

frozen glen
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ice has wronged me today

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for that he will pay

coarse birch
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hes taking it upon himself by using recon apparently

left iron
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Im sorry for dragging you back to your home server so you can have a better ping

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But i will do it again

frozen glen
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i took more dmg that one asia game than i did both those eu games combined

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ICE

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its like reintroducing a sentinel island tribesman back into society

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he got 500 diseases

left iron
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It was easier to dodge with the small delay

native cargo
olive raven
olive raven
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If not, the revive prolly wasn’t gonna happen either way imo

left iron
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Damn, we gotta do this more often

native cargo
frozen glen
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naur

native cargo
median steeple
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distinguished gentleman

clear knot
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1-2 rev speed isnt bad but 3 is generally considered a waste

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i ran 3 for a tiem, you can live without it at all. its just convenient

coarse birch
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ive never personally brought it although i did run +3 stam for a while

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so i may be biased

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although i could see it being nice for reving before a bomber or something

late birch
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I used to run the speed revive on the veteran because it was funny, you'd untangle people from the nets so fast they'd be if you got to the spot where they were getting pulled to fast enough

median steeple
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After thinking it through I straight up cant find a situation to really run rev speed, the one I can think of is in a middle of the horde event and people are specifically holding them back so you can get it, but other than that I can't

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christmas just two days away whoohoo

late birch
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you've never had to keep up the feeders for the carry

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?

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Of course you have!

heavy arch
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which blessings for new las pistol, im assuming bc of fire rate infernus bad?

median steeple
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pretty sure its still infernus dumb dumb

coarse birch
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its just dum dum w/e

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infernus is fine

heavy arch
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oh right on

median steeple
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yeah I tried infernus on it and its still pretty decent

heavy arch
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is basically same thing then?

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just a slower ver

median steeple
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yeah and it does more base damage

fading vale
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infernus is never really the option, it's only for monstrosities but at least it's funny

heavy arch
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tbh thats why i like infernus

fading vale
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raking or ghost would be better than infernus

heavy arch
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for monstorities only

coarse birch
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yeah its just for monstrosities

ember yew
coarse birch
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your not gonna proc it on anything else

median steeple
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yes... thats how las weapons work

heavy arch
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you reckon its worth dumping mats into making if i already have a decent las pistol

fading vale
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it's weird las weapons have fake ammo

median steeple
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I hate it so much

fading vale
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solely for 1 blessing

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that nobody uses

late birch
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your ammo shoulndt be a # it should be a percentage of the batt

heavy arch
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thats what im thinking

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if its the same deal p much

median steeple
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if you already have a decent las pistol

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unless you really want one

ember yew
fading vale
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how much does 10 burn stacks even do to unyielding

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it can't be that much

ripe heron
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It doesn't have the incredible switch speed of the old laspistol but it's still fast.

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And still suffers against maniacs.

heavy arch
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i made this instead thanks big E

visual stream
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If you use a concentration stim and then change your ability modifiers then it crashes the game thumbsup_ogryn

coarse birch
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hell yeah

fading vale
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that seems like an understandable psyk crash at least

coarse birch
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yeah i can understand that lol

cerulean pike
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aw yeah baybee

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steam sales

median steeple
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yeah an interaction thats never gonna happen in an actual game is gonna crash it, at least it isnt something hilariously dumb

fading vale
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like uh

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if a projectile is in the air

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and you load into a mission

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it crashes

fading vale
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what was the one in December

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if you dodged more than 15 times in a row

coarse birch
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there was a lot of ones in december

fading vale
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it crashed

open pollen
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This was a very good year for Darktide. I cannot wait till next year when they finally finish the crafting system.

coarse birch
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tbf

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it was the only year for darktide

ripe heron
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That would probably be related to a penance trigger

coarse birch
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but the last half was good yeah

visual stream
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Nah I'm playin

median steeple
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yes I think that was it, I remember it happening to me

fading vale
cerulean pike
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we crashin the game more?

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pog?

open pollen
wicked forge
# olive raven Alright, time write this up

appreciate the feedback! I'm not a huge fan of maniac on the knife (it only helps against specifically dreg ragers and muties), so that's why I run crit chance on it. I did not know that toughness regen was disabled with in 3m of enemies, so I'll address that in future videos.

fading vale
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I want to know what kind of magic causes "linked" crashes between players like josho and I think it was arco

coarse birch
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ive also had everyone but me crash

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at the same time

fading vale
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they couldn't be in the game at the same time

visual stream
median steeple
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the machine spirit was displeased

visual stream
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Simple as

coarse birch
#

in mission recently

wicked forge
median steeple
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Networking is a mysterious force that no game has mastered yet

ember yew
fading vale
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would really not recommend lacerate especially when flesh tearer exists and does the same thing but better

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crit chance is kinda ok though

fading vale
# royal vortex me and mankar

it was every time one of you reconnected the other would disconnect right, that and you would both crash at the same time

royal vortex
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yea until the end

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it was fkin weird

open pollen
# ember yew Sir, i see, you are a real optimist

I've no other choice. If my notes are correct, crafting is the only thing left to finish/fix when it comes to game design. If they can do a full class overhall in a year but can't finish crafting, well, I don't think my disappointment would be quantifiable.

median steeple
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fucking seesaw ass networking

fading vale
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audio would be nice to fix

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fuck crafting, fix audio

ember yew
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place your bets

fading vale
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also fix enemies clipping through walls and shit

coarse birch
ember yew
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ladies and gentlemen

coarse birch
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poxbursters this patch got me malding

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im blowing my ears out with how loud ive got the game and i still cant hear them sometimes

ember yew
fading vale
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I'm still bitter about the time I got grabbed by a cspawn through a wall even though I was 100% going to lose the solo anyways

ember yew
open pollen
coarse birch
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losing not winnable situations to stupid reasons is still annoying ill agree lol

median steeple
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one day trappers will stop shooting through bosses and hordes copium

uncut scaffold
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I'm bitter about the 12 game wipe streak I had right after they upped the elite spawn rates

fading vale
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you can't just call it all a bug

cerulean pike
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What if we do

Anyways

open pollen
fading vale
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they have to design the engine to do what they want the game to do

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so, no

uncut scaffold
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Crafting does what it was intended to do, we just don't like it.

coarse birch
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trappers shooting through hordes is fine imo

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id find them pretty non threatening otherwise

uncut scaffold
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Trappers are usually taller anyway

fading vale
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nets need some kind of hitmass limit

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shooting through bulwarks and monstrosities

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is dumb

coarse birch
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that part i get

indigo quartz
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since TIL about how toughness regen works

uncut scaffold
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How can I, as a hs6 ctw chad, break a bulwark's block

olive raven
uncut scaffold
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Just wait for them to swing?

ember yew
fading vale
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that or run punishment and push them open

ember yew
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or you can use something like Crusher

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and ping pong them

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hammer can too

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but Crusher is more fun

uncut scaffold
#

but you see, heavy sword is peak drip

fading vale
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pretty sure you can still push open bulwarks with hsword at max punishment stacks, but that is fairly niche I suppose

uncut scaffold
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I'm here to be seen first, do well second.

coarse birch
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they have one swing thats very easy to dodge

ember yew
#

fair enough

coarse birch
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id just dodge it

fading vale
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idk run a kant shotgun and shoot them through the shield

uncut scaffold
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Oh, bulwarks are not the issue. Bulwark's shields blocking me from hitting the other things,

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That's the issue.

fading vale
#

ah

ember yew
#

Chaos teamplay

open pollen
ember yew
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i hope they do something like Chaos Wastes, but in Darktide

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later

uncut scaffold
#

I mean, there's quite a few layers of audio at any given time right

fading vale
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ok so the players wanted higher difficulty etc which has a lot of enemies, the original engine design does not support this

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so they have to rework the audio engine

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to support this

uncut scaffold
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Usually when I get surprise poxburster'd, it's in the middle of me chewing up a horde

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Kinda hate how people talk about minor inconveniences tbh

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Mfs will come out and say the game has shit audio

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Nah, sometimes you just can't hear over crunching dozens of trash mobs

fading vale
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it only has bad audio on certain map locations and high density situations

uncut scaffold
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Like, no person would be able to hear then

fading vale
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the engine does not have enough channels and does not prioritize them correctly and certain locations on maps have incorrectly coded audio propagation because it's coded manually

uncut scaffold
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Sure it makes the game more difficult and sometimes you get unlucky, but RNG has always had a hand in how your runs go anyway.

ripe heron
uncut scaffold
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Games not perfect, it's no Mass Effect 2.

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But people get real aggressively critical

coarse birch
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tbf audio not working on a heavily audio based game is bad

fading vale
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because of shit like the clip above

coarse birch
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i need to be able to hear specials

fading vale
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where bursters just insta blow up on you with 0 sound

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and trappers are silent

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and crushers are silent

ember yew
fading vale
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and they cause you to instantly die or lose runs

uncut scaffold
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Crushers sneak up on you?

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They take up like half my screen in melee range

coarse birch
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im p sure hes not talking about when hes looking at them

uncut scaffold
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Kinda hard to not to

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Seeing as they're so big

fading vale
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I had a vet friend that had multiple silent crushers spawn behind him and overhead him 3 times in one game

uncut scaffold
#

There HAS to be a guy in a chair at Fatshark HQ who sits in on games just to fuck with people

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Spawn a trapper AND a flamer RIGHT NOW

fading vale
#

it's just the bullshit factor that makes people so annoyed

coarse birch
#

i want the game to be hard and challenging

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just for the right reasons

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taking no damage to anything but silent bursters is not the right reasons

visual stream
#

Also

fading vale
coarse birch
#

bomber for good measure

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poxburster so you def cant res

visual stream
#

friendly reminder that it is an intentional, intentional game mechanic for the game to every now and then substitute the very audible flank attack noise, with a barely audible groaning nise as they attack

coarse birch
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i can usually hear the flak noise honestly

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when something is about to hit me in the back

fading vale
#

usually, but sometimes it still doesn't proc the audio effect

coarse birch
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like i have less issue with it than silent specials

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for sure

visual stream
#

Oh no no I didn't mean that as a counterpoint to what was being said, silent specials def happen way too often

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Just

coarse birch
#

oh yeah i know

visual stream
#

An addition to the bullshit factor

uncut scaffold
#

Just don't let things get behind you

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simple as

coarse birch
#

its really just another thing to add to "audio is weird in this game"

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at least now that we have too much shit going on

fading vale
#

if the games spawns weren't so wacky maybe stuff wouldn't get behind you so often

coarse birch
#

that too

fading vale
#

but they literally spawn things like 5m behind you

coarse birch
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i mean spawn doors as a whole

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is a strange game design choice

fading vale
#

there are many areas where you can see pop in spawns

coarse birch
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being within reach of players i mean

fading vale
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like my favorite clip

coarse birch
visual stream
#

I haven't seen it in a long time but can't stuff spawn out of thin air if you're not looking at it even without cover?

coarse birch
#

i dont remember this happening befoire

visual stream
#

Ahh

fading vale
late birch
#

Do headshots count as weakspot damage

fading vale
#

heads are always weakspots

late birch
#

I figure that is the main weakspot

coarse birch
#

yes

uncut scaffold
#

beware yon beastie

fading vale
#

on oubliette when you drop through the floor to the room below after the stair elevator, there are ALWAYS pop in spawns

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it's silly

uncut scaffold
#

still a good game

fading vale
#

it is, just also lots of room for improvement on feel

coarse birch
#

we didnt say its not

visual stream
#

On the mission terminal, what do the varying skull with wings icons mean under individual missions?

coarse birch
#

level of diff youve done on them

visual stream
#

Does that mean how many of that type you've done?

fading vale
visual stream
#

Oh so the torrent one is just bugged

uncut scaffold
#

Before they updated the penances, it was the only way you could track "do x of each mission on x"

visual stream
#

I thought it was amount, so even though it's an annoying mission I've been powering through because I wanted it to not be the only outlier 😭

fading vale
#

I remember back when there was no way to track it and I tried to find the mission I hadn't done like 10 times before I got it Sitgryn

coarse birch
#

that was also on old mission board

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what a time

uncut scaffold
#

alas for okri's challenges

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It's getting better

gusty lynx
#

Wait, isnt this like, perfect? Since it has no cleaving attacks..?

#

Stat wise, the blessin is mid

coarse birch
#

its one of my favorite games, i played it for 900+ hours this year, although the crafting system still makes it hard to reccomend to people

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on average

uncut scaffold
#

crafting would be so much better if they made a diamantine > plasteel conversion

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That one thing would make qol so much better

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yeah skoll that axe is the funniest fuckin thing I've ever seen

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I doubt it'll roll any good blessings with that low stat number tho

left iron
#

I will find a way to use all of it

uncut scaffold
#

I used to need more diamantine than plasteel and idk what happened

coarse birch
#

yeah idk what id do without my 0 plasteel and 100k diamantine

left iron
#

Poor cat_stare

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Im not rich either

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Im middle class

coarse birch
#

i wouldnt be poor

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if i could just

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GET WHAT I WANT

left iron
#

Roll better

coarse birch
#

without rolling 45 times

coarse birch
visual stream
#

Middle class=able to afford one weapon

glass pelican
#

descend into madness

frozen glen
#

wat da hell

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did u censor it with a piece of denim

glass pelican
#

i'm smart

uncut scaffold
#

printed out the image and 3d printed over it

spark ember
#

is it me or ai director gone mad?

uncut scaffold
#

ai director is a guy

spark ember
#

like its spamming specials non stop like in maelstroms

uncut scaffold
#

they have an office building full of people that control spawns in every single instance

glass pelican
#

i kinda understood the pain

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kinda

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i was just using my hammer

vale carbon
#

how do the various "mundane" guns fare for zealot? infantry las/auto guns, autopistol, recon lasguns, etc.
basically everything outside of bolter, flamer, revolver, etc

steel agate
#

They do decent thumbsup_ogryn

vale carbon
#

ngl i wanna build up a reconlasgun but it's probably nowhere near a priority item for zealot

frozen kernel
#

Brauto used to be better than revolver lol

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Bolter is kinda mid asf

vale carbon
#

i already built a good agrippa brauto, i probably should make more zealot staple items

spark raven
#

Im bit frustated since 2 of my weapons are not setup ideal one i fucked up the perks one the blessings