either tbh, they do exactly the same thing
#zealot-class
royal vortex
sharp zodiac
Turn off everything on your screen
royal vortex
with stacks up you fling enemies all the same
calm salmon
I concur
autumn vector
I started using shield after holding the door for grps on twins hardmode
coarse birch
korouk
royal vortex
trauma has slightly longer duration which makes it easier to keep up
autumn vector
hold the door build fun
royal vortex
it's "strictly better" in a sense that does not matter
sharp zodiac
Taunt one?
unique cairn
hammerblow is strictly better though
Hammerblow 3 is only 3% better than Trauma 4 but is .5s less time
sharp zodiac
Idk I literally know nothing about the big man
royal vortex
either blessing gets u the same thing
cerulean pike
ah
i had to use korouk for the longest time cause i had neither a good gorgonum or a good achlys
and it worked well for my goofy ass
unique cairn
Might keep Trauma 4 tbh cuz this will be my first 550 rating weapon lol
cerulean pike
It was my only good roll stubber
royal vortex
ppl only used krourk because there was no other heavy stubber it's always been p terrible
cerulean pike
for the longest time
fading vale
then go for the 550
calm salmon
Yeah
autumn vector
Gorg isn't as fun as achlys for me anymore but they are different mood. I think the crouch buff on achyls is stronk a sfuck
royal vortex
like legitimately it always had the awful handling/accuracy issues
calm salmon
for a long time it was really the only way to deal with scab stalkers/dreg stalkers on ogryn
and then fatshark has made them largely a non-issue
royal vortex
but u didnt have anything else that did what a stubber does
cerulean pike
so it holds a special place in my heart
royal vortex
Might keep Trauma 4 tbh cuz this will be my first 550 rating weapon lol
pog
north sedge
if take an achlys with chastise you're just throwing auric
autumn vector
if take an achlys with chastise you're just throwing auric
stubbers
cerulean pike
It was there for me when no other stubber was
autumn vector
ogryn chat is invading zealot chat
cerulean pike
invading?
royal vortex
tbh back then iirc the only good ogryn gun was ripper
grenade gauntlet has always been fine as a pick
cerulean pike
we've always been here
north sedge
oh im just making fun of a dummy from yesterday
royal vortex
but it is legitimately just a shittier revolver
coarse birch
was GG actually fine back then
royal vortex
yeah
royal vortex
it's never been bad
royal vortex
it was a special deleter
cerulean pike
It was even more broken when the melee of GG counted as a heavy attack
fading vale
GG is the coolest ogryn weapon at least
cerulean pike
God that was a fun bug
royal vortex
still is but like it did the same thing
cerulean pike
infinite toughness
calm salmon
GG is still amazing at regular damnation
cerulean pike
on light melees
calm salmon
it only falls off in auric hi-stg
cerulean pike
so fuckin funny
calm salmon
because of the 16 specials per wave
and increased elite spawns
The reload speed and ammo count can be felt there, but its still not bad.
cerulean pike
Release DT was so fuckin weird
calm salmon
Just becomes more ammo hungry
royal vortex
darktide pre-patch 13 doesn't exist to me
autumn vector
Rippers really grew on me. I remember hatting them but with can opener they are way better. IDR when they made that change, maybe that was alwasy the case.
royal vortex
god the game was so much more boring
cerulean pike
Bleed was broken
GG melees of any kind counted as a heavy attack for the toughness regen
Powersword existed
autumn vector
FF3 was a meme tho for a while on ripper
calm salmon
Power cycler granting +4 attacks
coarse birch
hounds didnt work
royal vortex
the mission board
coarse birch
there used to be no power cycler even
north sedge
hey uh coming back to the game after a week, is bleed knife still the meta?
autumn vector
Hounds used to vibrate through solid matter
coarse birch
hey uh coming back to the game after a week, is bleed knife still the meta?
yep lacerate flesh tearer
cerulean pike
hey uh coming back to the game after a week, is bleed knife still the meta?
yes
cerulean pike
I should start gaslighting newer players as a knife hater that bleed knife is good
royal vortex
flescherate lactearer
cerulean pike
It's time to stop avoiding the problem
and start becoming the problem
autumn vector
my finger still has pstd from bleed knife builds before I say the light and stopped using knife
royal vortex
i told a couple ppl to run haymaker on new knife
coarse birch
It's time to stop avoiding the problem
and start becoming the problem
you cant complain when you get them in pubs and they suck
royal vortex
me when i bind my ping button to m1
north sedge
I should start gaslighting newer players as a knife hater that bleed knife is go...
yea but enough people already do that
cerulean pike
payday 2 melee builds have trained me well
royal vortex
dunno why but i keep getting removed from matches
cerulean pike
dunno why but i keep getting removed from matches
its a conspiracy
fatshark is doing it
royal vortex
they be hatin on my fucking irritating lifestyle
autumn vector
I should start gaslighting newer players as a knife hater that bleed knife is go...
You dont need to do that, new players seem to do that on their own already, its like a thing. It just occurs. Its weird.
coarse birch
somebodys gotta do it
coarse birch
rant post when?
cerulean pike
you cant complain when you get them in pubs and they suck
funny thing is this won't affect me cause i'm too busy playing bloons tower defence 6
coarse birch
well
royal vortex
pog
royal vortex
she was kind to me
coarse birch
josho does have like 300k
cerulean pike
he's been hoarding it like the filthy frog he is
north sedge
Josho is but a peasant compared to me
coarse birch
if the game hates you enough
north sedge
coarse birch
those dockets are wild do you not buy weapons
left iron
Lmao poor
north sedge
Not often
spiral anvil
How many hours
royal vortex
pt 2 released
and i wanted the new stuff
dough rolls a weapon once in a fkin blue moon its not fair
coarse birch
props for being able to not want a perfect version of every weapon tbh
going for perfect all the time is what actually ruins my reserves
north sedge
Too many hours
royal vortex
i am hitting bps u wouldnt even believe with an extra 10-20% damage on skrusher
coarse birch
happy for you josho
royal vortex
going for perfect all the time is what actually ruins my reserves
i delete anything with below 70 in stats i want
coarse birch
yeah same
royal vortex
which causes a great deal of pain for myself
but i refuse to budge
the wallet will break before i do
coarse birch
unless its like a stat that doesnt scale
but i have to buy 50 weapons at a time
to get one with 70+ in everything
so it can get bricked
royal vortex
thank GOD for buy until rating/barter at once
coarse birch
i should use that
royal vortex
its what let me spend so much plasteel/ordos right after pt2 dropped in the first place
i'd still be rollin for shit if i had to do it all manually
coarse birch
yeah i do it manually mostly cause i hate actually running out of money
and that might happen with roll till
autumn vector
Mmm time to start farming materials for next update
lean lark
i delete anything with below 70 in stats i want
low standards
royal vortex
i just wanna say
delicate needle
thank GOD for buy until rating/barter at once
god i hope we can get crafting to improve base weapon stats instead of slot machine for 370s
royal vortex
god i hope we can get crafting to improve base weapon stats instead of slot mach...
all they really have to do with the existing framework is tighten the range on rarities
like it shouldnt be below 350
1/5 to 1/3rd of all the shit i buy with buy until rating gets sold and i have my minimum rating set to fuckin 320 lmao
autumn vector
PowerAxe crusher lets me live in a illusion where we have a power axe
native cargo
i just wanna say
Me using the chilly weather skin
delicate needle
like it shouldnt be below 350
fr make anything from the requisitions and brunt, once you reach a certain point in xp, just always be above 350 bc you're never using anything other than that
native cargo
I do have that skin doe josho just me likes the chilly weather
royal vortex
if they did this and shifted some of the plasteel cost on consecrate to diamantine
delicate needle
Me using the chilly weather skin
can't believe I bought these skins just to wind up using the default skin bc it's the best š
royal vortex
crafting would feel way less awful
delicate needle
with the exception of one knife skin and an ogryn weapon
ivory marlin
Josho why are you flirting?
native cargo
can't believe I bought these skins just to wind up using the default skin bc it'...
The pain of fashion
ivory marlin
stan said i am not
Why would you listen to stan
native cargo
Japan why are you a very violent frog
royal vortex
i bought the camo skins from a while ago for a commandogryn drip
the frog is not violent
royal vortex
Why would you listen to stan
he christens me with new names regularly
autumn vector
crafting would feel way less awful
Just let me stripp blessings off bricked bases
north sedge
That's just the rule, if stan fucks up your name, you take it
royal vortex
Just let me stripp blessings off bricked bases
at this point so many ppl have more diamantine than plasteel they need to make a unique sink for it
the most realistic way to go about it is probs letting u reset a weapon to grey for like 1k diamantine
autumn vector
but letting us gamble more
yea
they do that
make it cost melk coins while were at it
royal vortex
basically all i want is for them to minimize the feeling of getting shafted by crafting
autumn vector
melk and diamant
native cargo
Deep down I know that one day FS will give us a purpose for diamantine.
exotic portal
it would open for more playstyles
royal vortex
another thing FS has started doing
is tightening up the dif between t1/2/3/4 blessings
which is nice
i think headtaker is now .5% extra per stack going up a tier
autumn vector
they seem to be trying to niche things some, like the buff to run n gun even if its not likely good enough to use just yet
delicate needle
Deep down I know that one day FS will give us a purpose for diamantine.
let me exchange it for plasteel 
autumn vector
let me exchange it for plasteel <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
35 to 1 ratio
royal vortex
they seem to be trying to niche things some, like the buff to run n gun even if ...
yea
delicate needle
acceptable
north sedge
at this point so many ppl have more diamantine than plasteel they need to make a...
Excuse me sir i have double the plasteel compared to diamantine, only i matter
royal vortex
stfu scrooge mcduck
autumn vector
Eat the rich
royal vortex
exactly
native cargo
Hopefully this is all just a story based experience as once we get past "Act 1" or whatever they are doing with captain wolfer and co. we will get a better system
native cargo
Because we did good and we are getting access to better stuff
royal vortex
Hopefully this is all just a story based experience as once we get past "Act 1" ...
u know what i want
royal vortex
to go to other planets in the moebian system
lean lark
4.25 4.5 4.75 5
native cargo
Lemme at em
royal vortex
pinning fire
o
delicate needle
Hopefully this is all just a story based experience as once we get past "Act 1" ...
would be sick
delicate needle
to go to other planets in the moebian system
nah send me to the gene stealer cult in the deep hive
native cargo
But yeah, I'm just coping hard with the crafting system to the point I am justifying it via the story
delicate needle
i wanna KILL
autumn vector
So since they nerfed stagger and how it works on boltor can we like get rid of the dumb animation now or is that thing just going to gather more dust in inventory?
native cargo
I do not wanna be bred by genestealers
and I don't want this discord to go uwu again because of the genestealers
delicate needle
i just want an excuse for more content
native cargo
"Oh pls purebred daddy!"
loads shotgun "Face the wall heretic."
delicate needle
w/e it may be
royal vortex
although ngl if fatshark tried their hand at a spacehulk deathwing style game
i'd whale out for it 3x as hard as dt
because fuck me that game was so cool conceptually/visually and they just fumbled the actual playing the game part
native cargo
I want more content too as well. Just please do not make me wade through slaaneshi food markets cus I'ma get hungry and nobody wants me hungry
autumn vector
idc what enemy we kill so long there is cool shooty spiky cutty things along the way to said enemy
native cargo
I heavily enjoy smiting things
cerulean pike
okay i need new bloons tower defence music
native cargo
Which is why I enjoy this game its nice
calm salmon
Also, on the topic of bolter
autumn vector
besides the console version is out and poping, now FS making DLC mode most likely so im excited for whatever that is
calm salmon
it'll never have a niche so long as volvo and plasma gun exist
native cargo
Too late ig
calm salmon
in their current iteration, I suppose
cerulean pike
im not doing incursion
im doing bloons tower defence
totally different league mechanic
native cargo
Well if you ever do pirate shit then thats something to listen to
royal vortex
besides the console version is out and poping, now FS making DLC mode most likel...
i would pay for a admech char
autumn vector
i was curious how bolt pistol was going to be but im not now, after new revolver and revolver nerfs I'm pretty sure its just going to be a better revolver
cerulean pike
i got the greatest recommendation in poe
time to go from bloons tower defense
to dungeon defenders music
autumn vector
i would pay for a admech char
admech seems the logic choice if we are getting another archtype. I mean there are other things but admech something works.
With what they said about making maps for Bardin back in the day
native cargo
im doing bloons tower defence
idk listen to this then. Depends on what defense you're doing ig.
autumn vector
I doubt we ever get
native cargo
Just any power metal will do
autumn vector
Ratlings
royal vortex
hive ganger would be cool as well
autumn vector
unelss they did that here
royal vortex
but idt that'll ever happen
delicate needle
i would pay for a admech char
I'd drop big (dlc relative) bucks for admech
native cargo
They would have to give us a climbing mechanic for ratlings
cerulean pike
bloons baybee
native cargo
They're so fucking small
delicate needle
only if they get radium carbine
autumn vector
Ratling seems more a like an ogryn class
native cargo
Then there will have to be a shoulder mounted mechanic for ogryns
autumn vector
as in give up ranged weapon for shoulder mounted ratling
native cargo
Hell yeah
autumn vector
just let the ogryn aim it
native cargo
aim it like the predator shoulder mounted weapon
native cargo
For admech we could get a lot of stuff. Arco-flagellant, skitarii, servitor. Whatever
native cargo
aimbot sniper
royal vortex
i hope they give ogryns lascannons
native cargo
I want them to give ogryns increasingly more ethnically questionable weaponry
royal vortex
but ig the problem kinda is a lot of the big guns for og are similar to heavy stubbers so 
who knows what we get
i want a version of the rumbler that fires air-detonated grenades
autumn vector
Isn't there like a dual barreled melta gun or something?
calm salmon
but ig the problem kinda is a lot of the big guns for og are similar to heavy st...
I'd be totally fine with fatshark just going "here's stubber, but laser"
autumn vector
that seems ogryn
delicate needle
For admech we could get a lot of stuff. Arco-flagellant, skitarii, servitor. Wha...
skitarii or lowly tech adept seems most likely
delicate needle
probably related to hadron
calm salmon
PEW PEW
royal vortex
I'd be totally fine with fatshark just going "here's stubber, but laser"
yea i mean u have stuff like recons vs iags, the way u balance it is different adms and secondary characteristics
delicate needle
just gimme my omnissiah axe and cancer carbine and I'm happy rho
autumn vector
Still wouldn't mind a giant ogryn revolver
royal vortex
i think im p happy with ogryn melees at this point since we have Thunderhammer But Betterā¢ļø
well the paul needs a total rework
native cargo
give ogryns a chain fist so they can just
calm salmon
The ogryn melee situation is really weird
native cargo
punch into walls
autumn vector
new shovels getting nerfed
calm salmon
and then you go play vet with power sword
delicate needle
Still wouldn't mind a giant ogryn revolver
ogryn shooting 30mm rounds out of a revolver
calm salmon
and do 900k melee damage
autumn vector
i would bet on it
calm salmon
and its like "duhfuq fatshark"
royal vortex
im not really a fan of how the ogryn tree GIGABUFFS melee but the ranged tree doesn't really do that for ranged
i want them to tune down skullbreaker buffs and tune up the melees a bit
royal vortex
and its like "duhfuq fatshark"
it is p funny
because a shovel has to wind up an agonizingly slow horizontal heavy
to proc bm on bruisers
autumn vector
Just give ogryn the 2handed crusher club already FS
royal vortex
meanwhile psword
autumn vector
Do it
royal vortex
FACEROLL MASH LMB
royal vortex
HORDE DIES
royal vortex
mk6 psword at least has a more interesting moveset than mk3
autumn vector
You are forgetting the, I can also one or two hit crushers and anything else in melee
cause push attack is fine
calm salmon
2sbp on crushers, ragers, and maulers
1 shot bps on literally everything else
what a fun and engaging melee weapon they've designed
native cargo
Give ogryns the multi melta but in ogryn size so they can have another thing to hold m1 on
royal vortex
i mean vet can 1-tap crushers with their shovel
native cargo
it will make them happy trust
royal vortex
and it doesn't have the agonizing endlag
royal vortex
the problem with ogryn shovels is BM basically
autumn vector
what is that called
royal vortex
uncanny
autumn vector
yea
royal vortex
@calm salmon ive come to the conclusion the one weapon i like slam on instead of soften em up is the og shovels
particularly the mk5
because it lets u reach stagger BPs on mid-swing ragers easier
autumn vector
I would rather have a shotgun revolver with a speedloader
royal vortex
fuck u
autumn vector
plasma pistol
royal vortex
i want a proper 2 handed melta
native cargo
when 
royal vortex
that and a boltpistol
boltpistol and 2 handed chainaxe are the weapons i desire most
royal vortex
ogryns can wield em iirc
autumn vector
boltor with a 100 round mag
makes sense for ogryn but at that point just give me heavy boltor
native cargo
I want meltas first, but having a funny inferno pistol or hand flamer is cute af
and
yeah
just that
autumn vector
I just cant seem the flame pistol having a niche when normal flamer eixsts in its realm
what you gonna do puff everything?
maybe less range?
more burn?
native cargo
hand flamer wouldn't really have a purpose I think
Like if they add the heavy flamer or some shit into the game its gonna be the flamer but better idk
native cargo
We shouldn't. Maybe skins of variants for the flamer
royal vortex
i mean most weapons that don't have variants have alt models
the ordo dockets skin for obscurus used to be an illisi model
before illisi was released
so its technically possible
native cargo
I'd be afraid if they decide to give one of the classes a Gravitron. using gravity for a weapon would range from hilarious to boring depending on what they do with it
calm salmon
I'd be afraid if they decide to give one of the classes a Gravitron. using gravi...
I wouldn't be surprised if fatshark just sticks with the mundane side of 40k
spiral anvil
Another flamer mark that fires projectiles instead
calm salmon
Here's a gun
here's a gun but its x y or z different
basically what we have now
but flamer variants are really easy
more ammo, less DOT
less ammo, more DOT
spiral anvil
Less range, faster pullout, less movement restriction, altfire is compressed air
sand lance
Hold on
calm salmon
Less range, faster pullout, less movement restriction, altfire is compressed air
get outta here pyro
north sedge
Make cryo cannon....a sludge pump
spiral anvil
sand lance
This man wanting to Airblast Scab Bomber bombs back at hordes
mossy tulip
crit chance worth over flak on laspistol?
this is mostly for monstrosity maelstrom
ornate bone
Laspistol has a nice flak modifier by default
ripe quest
+crit chance is never worth it.
ornate bone
I think it's worth the extra funnies
mossy tulip
+crit chance is never worth it.
what makes you say that?
olive raven
crit chance worth over flak on laspistol?
No
5% crit chance is nothing
Itās a difference that is so negligible itās not worth the lost base damage.
cerulean pike
what makes you say that?
because it's just 5% crit chance
olive raven
Also the pistol I think has
cerulean pike
I think the only thing I have crit chance on is a purgatus
olive raven
15% base crit?
vale carbon
5% sadge
25% greato
heavy arch
they should bump it to 10%
vale carbon
simple as
faint marsh
my bf is trying to help me do hard mode and we keep getting bad pubs
ripe quest
It is a very small increase to damage. It's value is increasing the chance to proc a blessing, but on most weapons that value is small compared to a damage perk.
faint marsh
well i guess thatās it
heavy arch
both of you try running flamers
mossy tulip
whats laspistol crit multiplier?
native cargo
So fun fact. If you use an ammo crate in the elevator on the sycorax mission it will be left behind as you go up
mossy tulip
looks like 4x
native cargo
Pretty neat find
olive raven
I assume one of the stats will say it
And yea the multiplier probably varies with what
Weak point or not?
ripe quest
I think the only thing I have crit chance on is a purgatus
Even on the Flamers it's just kinda sad. If you get really lucky with when you crit it at most kills certain enemies in a tick or two less.
cerulean pike
yeah i'm probably gonna switch out crit chance for something else on my purgatus
it's mostly just the extra burn application for crit
ember yew
Make cryo cannon....a sludge pump
Melta Gun when
ripe quest
seems to be almost 4x
Use the BP calc if you're using the old Laspistol, it'll give exact numbers.
vale carbon
how dumb is it using flamer with just the LMB attacks?
olive raven
Scab ragers, dreg ragers, etc
4-8 tap id say is a more fair estimate tho
So you can prolly kill idk
mossy tulip
let's say its a 300% increase to a shot, which is conservative for a plague ogryn
300 *0.05
15
and it also procs infernus
olive raven
Er
mossy tulip
so the expected value of the perk is pretty high
olive raven
Homie itās crit chance not damage
olive raven
Okay yea so
mossy tulip
thats more than 4x
olive raven
Crit chance doesnāt change crit damage
olive raven
Crits yes
mossy tulip
so the probability of getting a 300% dmg increase
is 5%
so you can get expected value
olive raven
It would be 20% chance per shot
mossy tulip
and on bosses where u dump shots
im calculating the marginal increase yes
anyways i think its p good
just based on that
if anyone has some evidence to the contrary
olive raven
Itās not
mossy tulip
pls let me know
olive raven
Gimme like
mossy tulip
(other than just saying its bad)
olive raven
5 minutes here
Aight so
- 5% is a negligible value
- Keeping your unyielding perk will increase the actual damage to a larger degree, leading to overall higher DPS.
Letās
Say that 15% of the mag will actually crit
cerulean pike
25% extra damage ontop of 15% crit > 0 extra damage ontop of 20% crit
olive raven
This isnāt how probability works but using it for simplification
olive raven
That is an even worse idea.
lean lark
you're putting your dps into rng
mossy tulip
monstrosity i mean
lean lark
why a laspistol out of all things
mossy tulip
it is kinda rng yea
cerulean pike
"kinda"
it is rng
mossy tulip
laspistol has incredible boss dmg
better than anything else zealot has aside from thammer
cerulean pike
eviscerator
chaxe
vale carbon
monstrosity i mean
monstrosities are really rare and unreliable to show up
cerulean pike
columnus
mossy tulip
and i melee everything else
lean lark
bolter
columnus
agri revolver
flamer
agri revolver is a ? as i havent tested it on zealot yet
heavy arch
las pistol is p gr8 on bosses
vale carbon
and there's more if you aren't limiting to just zealot
mossy tulip
you know what
autumn vector
i mean like
mossy tulip
nvm guys
idle marsh
Flamer?
autumn vector
you generally it seems unles syou are playing low intensity
gonna face 1-2 mon a misssin
lean lark
flamer is a good option in monstrous malestorm given there's like
next to no chance there wont be any trash enemies nearby the boss
native cargo
I wouldn't be surprised if fatshark just sticks with the mundane side of 40k
I wouldn't either but the idea of us progressively getting more and more whacky and absurd weapons appeals to me
vale carbon
lean lark
so you can clear it out for your teammates and still deal decent boss dmg
native cargo
"They od a good job so give em what they want i guess?"
lean lark
while still clearing everything else
vale carbon
"They od a good job so give em what they want i guess?"
"yes, give me the viral bomb, i can be trusted with it"
mossy tulip
theres a reason he runs las
mossy tulip
or run thammer/new evis/rashad caxe
thammer is nice but then you have to use thammer
rest of the run
lol
autumn vector
New Evis is stupid good at everything tbh
vale carbon
thammer is nice but then you have to use thammer
skill issue
autumn vector
even its horde clear isn't terrible
olive raven
YouTubers. Are not. To be trusted.
mossy tulip
its just mid
olive raven
Like 99% of the time
cerulean pike
bro is throwing knives at a sniper when he has a laspistol out
lean lark
nah bro just put your trust into youtubers and copy off of them so you end up with zero knowledge and just parrot someone else's build
knock yourself out
buoyant pecan
have you true duoed monstrosity maelstrom
Why would I ever care to do this
idle marsh
Lasknives
cerulean pike
sorry let me rephrase
bro is throwing knives at a sniper when he has a laspistol out and no other enemies around him
cerulean pike
(and misses. twice)
vestal coyote
Can anything be done with this?
heavy arch
u guys are weird
vestal coyote
or can the only thing that can be done is to consume it
lean lark
sustained to handcannon i guess
autumn vector
u guys are weird
whats weird?
vale carbon
Can anything be done with this?
you can sell it
that's something that can be done ig
autumn vector
Anyway for new revolver i know its not great but was there ever a general consenus on blessings? Handcannon is a must, thats obviously but what about the other one
heavy arch
if i had a las pistol that id only pull out against monstrosities
then yeah the only other buff besides unyielding would be crit chance
autumn vector
New laspistol can one hit a lot of elites with headshots
vale carbon
having a weapon exclusively built for one kind of weapon seems like diminishing returns
heavy arch
thats not what the guy was asking tho
vale carbon
like, not even usable for elites or specials?
mossy tulip
then yeah the only other buff besides unyielding would be crit chance
yeye sounds good
heavy arch
if we could have more than 5 build loadouts id have niche builds like that
stuff for monstrosity + no ammo pickup
olive raven
nah bro just put your trust into youtubers and copy off of them so you end up wi...
ššš
spark ember
if we could have more than 5 build loadouts id have niche builds like that
We can...
U just need a mod
olive raven
Anyway for new revolver i know its not great but was there ever a general consen...
Crucian and trickshooter I think
olive raven
then yeah the only other buff besides unyielding would be crit chance
Not even
The math doesnāt do that
lean lark
i run trickshooter handcannon on new revolver
lean lark
i highly dont recommend it unless you've got a surefire way of getting crit chance
spark ember
New rev is for piety builds imho...
sweet pilot
which one has potential to be better? both kinda feel the same i think
wrong axe, not the rashad
zealous basin
darktide!
autumn vector
idr what taxe has the "good" animations but
mossy tulip
The math doesnāt do that
What math is this
autumn vector
the shred axe seems better
cause to my knowledge you do piety taxe for cdr
but if you arent cdr taxe
then idk
but i wouldnt' not be cdr taxe
but tbh I wouldnt be taxe
so take my word with grain of salt
ornate bone
buoyant pecan
Laspistol crits are sicko mode
versed escarp
thank you to the folks who helped me do the zealot speedrun penance š
I have candle shoulders now let's fucking go
autumn vector
that's why the new revolver is so meh to me. Cause old laspistol seem better overall as well as new
vestal coyote
Yeah I am just not feeling it
I like being able to aim
and the infinite penetration
royal vortex
vacuum capsule
zealous basin
whar
vocal pulsar
@royal vortex
royal vortex
vacuum capsule
faint marsh
finally rolled a good flamer
zealous basin
wtf
faint marsh
what should i look for in terms of blessings
vocal pulsar
vacuum capsule
zealous basin
burn is kinda the most important stat i would not be dumping plasteel into something that rolled dumpstat burn
consecrating a good flamer is easy since theres only one blessing that matters
(blaze away)
faint marsh
ok i also rolled a nice bolt gun at the same time i wanted advice for
faint marsh
wanted to try this one out because i seen other people have fun with it
not the best roll either but still ysable@
faint marsh
my main weapons are definitely better stats than these but i mean i just wanna check āen out
zealous basin
that roll i mean
olive raven
what should i look for in terms of blessings
Blaze Away, Overpressure too but itās bugged rn
lean lark
bolter is anti-armor and anti-boss
very good
personally i run shattering impact + pf with flak + cara
if you want to use it to kill elites snipers etc put surgical pf
if not, shattering impact/cavalcade with pf and any of the usual perk combos
steel temple
the gun is good but those perks and blessings are mediocre
You are looking for Deadly accurate / surgical and flak /maniac / elite / unarmoured are some perks you can play around with
ember yew
Extract that IV blessing - that's still good value
native cargo
maybe?
open pollen
looks like a weird instrument
Dude's about to unleash a sick riff upon thine ears
With his digital splingtwanger
zinc talon
welp
not even gonna look at it, ever
maybe a quick screencap if it changes on me somehow
it'll just be the Whorgle
it whargoles
ITS A BOOK ICON THING
THAT I BEAT PEOPLE TO DEATH WITH
polar nexus
You are looking for Deadly accurate / surgical and flak /maniac / elite / unarmo...
It's a 3 so surgical... Not sure. DA + HH is probably better
formal umbra
which autogun is worth investing in? need some variety from my revolver
flat marsh
Colomunus
formal umbra
thanks!
polar nexus
As for maniac. Yeah. It's like trying to compensate for a weakness. Better melee them.
distant maple
ember yew
i hope in 2028 fartshart implement better sorting options
locking up your favorite weapons
and etcetc
vocal pulsar
vacuum capsule
livid siren
vacuum capsule
zinc talon
oh my god
crusher has free powerups if you hide em in your movement well enough
it makes you so fast
I think you're chambering momentum inside the powerup itself
you get goin at a good clip and hit it, move really quickly to avoid the snare, and don't interrupt it again until you land so to speak
and suddenly you're hoppity skipping at max velocity, in three directions a second
laying heavy power hits
about as fast as you'd be spamming lights, lil slower
but certainly faster than heavy spam
void iron
Uber brick but whatever 
'
Trying to prep for brick 2
nvm it was a brunt brick we safe
blazing fossil
time to play auric hungover
exotic portal
time to play auric hungover
ember yew
went to test last one
how tanky it is
almost 1m damage
works
- tanky
need that rampage IV though
exotic portal
how's the new one hander chainsaw?
ember yew
how's the new one hander chainsaw?
if you mean sword, i use it as a main crit wep as of now
dumped IV
its just a better ver of IV
exotic portal
better bet might just be to run unyielding instead of cara and rely on 2nd weapon for crushers
steep flame
im boutta start my first game of baldurs gate 3
ember yew
better bet might just be to run unyielding instead of cara and rely on 2nd weapo...
im just killing them with Dash + Laspistol
considering you have access to 2 dashes
95% of the time i have one available
so im just completely yolo'ing
its a fun meatgrinder when you replace shred with +Cleave
so you can pierce thru most stuff
void iron
When you forget to swap loadout but get to do the 1 thing you made this build for
surreal solstice
...was that damnation
surreal solstice
ye, auric
Wait
You one shotted Demonhost
On damnation
WITH T3 THRUST
WITH NON - WEAKSPOT HIT
WITH IRONHELM?
exotic portal
adds up
void iron
Wait
You one shotted Demonhost
On damnation
WITH T3 THRUST
WITH NON - WEAKSPOT H...
Shroudfield n it's dmg modifier + inexorable + out of stam node + unyielding etc = like 225% bonus vs bosses
exotic portal
add a bleed render to talent trees, not just armor render
formal umbra
LOL
open echo
hadron whyyy
formal umbra
shes addicted to bricking weapons
open echo
hadron whyyy
this is bricked right?
deep sapphire
Anyone looking to do the just a flesh wound penance here?
dense field
And then you have options
formal umbra
literally mastercrafted by goddamn salamander blacksmiths but they dropped it on accident while making it and ended up making sly marbos butterknife
mossy lodge
good morning people
Do you guys know who to unlock the special cosmetic for zealot?
i dont even know a to get into a private game to unlocked
xd
leaden vapor
DH has very low HP compared to other bosses 
iron helm is grate
geart
grie
groert
graet
great
yeah
mossy lodge
OH,OK
iron gazelle
i love doing it heresy + take curtis thunderhammer and charge DH and see the other confused where the boss health go
polar nexus
i dont even know a to get into a private game to unlocked
You need do a private mission with someone. You can set the mission to private in the mission map center thingy
open echo
Thunderous > slaughterer
what abt headtaker?
dense field
It's ok
polar nexus
It's easier to keep up. And bleed stacks proce HT too
polar nexus
You don't really need it
dense field
iron gazelle
i got the new chainaxe with something like warth and slaugtherer 4
BBRRR BRRRR heretic
keen silo
cmon game
keen silo
got it for free
but shredder sucks š
ember yew
copper hawk
I guess
Replace block effic 2 flak
Change dev strike 2 rampage
The rot consumez
fading vale
TIL why Steve always gets hangry even when he has food in his bowl but it's been pushed to the side
cats don't like their whiskers touching things like that
keen silo
how can i play better with crucius mk2?
the moveset is feels really hard for horde clearing
fading vale
what's your crucis and build look like
keen silo
fading vale
you gotta learn to do the heavy drag dodge dance for hordes as well
keen silo
i wanted to run momentum but no build had that
fading vale
yeah don't go crit on hammer
keen silo
you gotta learn to do the heavy drag dodge dance for hordes as well
meaning holding, dodging back and weaving camera with the strike direction?
keen silo
please do
keen silo
cant, my weapon is modded 2x
fading vale
darn
keen silo
my perks are a bit diff
fading vale
oh I run backstab CDR
instead of swift
also you can swap the stam melee to HR if you want
fading vale
the blue one on the bottom right
keen silo
so i just went with this
placid fiber
What do I even want on the laspistol besides dumdum... reassuringly accurate...?
keen silo
oh I run backstab CDR
gotcha
fading vale
What do I even want on the laspistol besides dumdum... reassuringly accurate...?
I like raking, someone like you might like ghost
placid fiber
Eh, I would rather take reassuringly accurate or infernus than ghost... since I'm only taking this with my blazing piety build
placid fiber
btw Laz, did you see the stupid edit I did?
keen silo
you aren't overusing special are you?
thing is special doesnt cleave mobs
so i dont try to use it on hordes
placid fiber
This, I mean
keen silo
only for single target or high value i try special
fading vale
Eh, I would rather take reassuringly accurate or infernus than ghost... since I'...
eh, don't take infernus
that's the lower fire rate laspistol anyways
yeah crucis has a high learning curve
placid fiber
This, I mean
What do you think of my mutie, Lazorr? lol
fading vale
so you kinda need to learn how to use the special and when, you can use it in horde scenarios but only at certain times and with other utility backing you up like F
fading vale
What do you think of my mutie, Lazorr? lol
lol
copper hawk
Lazorr what do u think of turnipz
fading vale
turnipz?
fading vale
only for single target or high value i try special
also don't be afraid to use lights, lights are quite solid now
fading vale
you use them for killing high HP trash in 1 hit, and killing minor elites and specials (not ragers or maulers)
or clearing slightly spread shooters faster
also a light special can 1 tap bulwarks with some buffs up
fading vale
im struggling hitting targets reliably
are you by chance on a controller or just not used to it
fading vale
crucis just takes some practice, it's not a press m1 weapon like others
fading vale
gotta learn positioning timing and hitbox manipulation a lot more than many other weapons
you should also make use of jump heavy specials
for hitting high value targets in hordes sometimes
I'd also swap 1 more curio to toughness and swap 1 more perk to gunner resist
and idk if I would run that kant with not piety unless you are doing like, scab melee only
no respite and FF/deathspitter/full bore are gonna do a lot more general work
keen silo
jump heavy is a thing? š
copper hawk
yarp
keen silo
is it for hammers only?
or
fading vale
hammer only
keen silo
ohh nice
fading vale
helps single out taller targets
mossy scarab
hammer only
Whats wrong with Connecticut?
fading vale
Stan
mossy scarab
Hold on, stan lives there?
fading vale
no he gifted me this name while drunk
mossy scarab
Okay good, I was worried. Thats like 30 minutes from me
I mean the entire state of connecticut is 30 minutes across
rancid fern
I have a new love.
mossy scarab
I have a new love.
Absolute trash. Damage is too high. You need one with under 10% damage, preferably zero.
fading vale
I have a new love.
also trauma to skullcrusher
rancid fern
Absolute trash. Damage is too high. You need one with under 10% damage, preferab...
this is the best i can do. im also not going to use blessing perks because they're so overrated
keen silo
@fading vale is desperation really that good to take ni the build?
stamina depleted meaning completely?
or partially also gives the buff?
fading vale
I run it for bigger damage on monstrosities and sprinting into fights but by no means do you need it
you can swap it for HR
keen silo
yea thats what i was thinking
a little bit of survivability for me can be clutch ig..
rancid fern
also trauma to skullcrusher
kinda vibing w/ the trauma
fading vale
for example on monstrosities you can block certain attacks to get 0 stam
keen silo
oh so it is 0 stam?
fading vale
kinda vibing w/ the trauma
yeah but trauma isn't doing anything with the already insane impact you have particularly with hammerblow
skullcrusher can give up to 80% damage
yeah it's 0 stam
mossy scarab
this is the best i can do. im also not going to use blessing perks because they'...
Solid 8/10. It's alright.
keen silo
i just removed second wind and took both HR and desperation
would it be too much of a tradeaway?
keen silo
aight
rancid fern
Solid 8/10. It's alright.
I'm tempted to go spend 200k finding the least damage possible just to satisfy
olive raven
Second Wind > Desperation
crisp plaza
Whatās the dump stat on the MK 3 combat blade
olive raven
Iād honestly say itās better than Holy Revenant too
olive raven
Whatās the dump stat on the MK 3 combat blade
I believe mobility
Mobility/Defenses is usually the dump stat
crisp plaza
Is first target really that necessary
rancid fern
Solid 8/10. It's alright.
2nd puchase. The emperor blesses.
ember yew
I have a new love.
feels like too much BONK power, get dat Skullcrusher
fading vale
first target is straight damage scaling so
rancid fern
feels like too much BONK power, get dat Skullcrusher
i should make a skull crusher setup also. i actually only got into this crusher today and bought a bunch and got lucky with this one.
crisp plaza
After like 15 blades this is the best one I got. Should I keep hitting the slots?
If only that mobility and finesse were switched
fading vale
probably, that finesse is a bit sad
olive raven
Is first target really that necessary
Yes
ember yew
then go and get 0 useful stuff
-20 hours from your life
it's basically
a goddarn gacha
onyx solar
I wouldn't say 0 useful. If you look at the stat difference between 60% and 80% finesse it's really not that huge
onyx solar
fair
crisp plaza
Iām gonna do it
onyx solar
bricking a weapon is the worst damn thing
crisp plaza
ember yew
https://tenor.com/view/carlos-madrigal-black-smith-wilmer-valderama-from-dusk-till-dawn-gif-24924050
rancid fern
Just made 5 more that were worse
just upgrade and vibe for a bit