zealot-class

[sour stirrup]

guess I hit the head by accident the 1 time I tried to kill it

[ember yew]

that's my dream MK15, i would swapped Elite with Maniac and Perfect Strike with +Cleave or Momentum (wanna test it), since im using ranged to deal with carapace

[faint marsh]

finally found a revolver i like

not the best stat roll 364 isn’t my favourite but the dump stat is on mobility so that’s fine ig

i do however have flak maniac surgical3 and hand cannon3 on it

[sour stirrup]

if I swap Elites to Maniac I lose Crusher 2 shot I believe and gain no meaningful bps for maniacs

I might be able to no rev heavy attack a rager but like I just shoot ragers

[ember yew]

that's why i said it what i would do in my build, may not be optimal for yours ofc

[sour stirrup]

and by +cleave do you mean Savage Sweep? capped at 4 targets anyway so feels like no point

[ember yew]

its if you want to swing through maulers and co

[sour stirrup]

looking into Shred or BT, leaning Shred I think tho

yea I guess so

not like I cant change my mind anyway. Rampage 4 and 25% Flak locked is kinda nutty

[ember yew]

good rolls anyway

gonna try for another MK15 maybe in a week

since i wasted my last resources for Twins HM weapon

and its worked

[nova python]

Why a chainaxe for HM Twins?

[ember yew]

well evis probably works too

to absolutely shred shields

and do decent damage on them overall

[next trench]

i want a double plasteel weekend

and i want it now!

[sour stirrup]

lol imagine

[ember yew]

damn was that a thing even once

[next trench]

farming crafting mats fking suck man

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-wallet-i-am-broke-no-money-no-cash-gif-24120042

when i want MK15

[olive raven]

Increasing cleave changes impact, crits, etc

It has use cases

It’s damage capped at 4

Other things apply

[sour stirrup]

yea ik

but like atp I'd just use Mk2

but thats just me

[next trench]

do yall farm on damnation?

[sour stirrup]

yea, you have to

[next trench]

or its actually better on lower diffs

[olive raven]

It’s the best for farming

[sour stirrup]

lower give poopoo mats

[ember yew]

i do damnation auric quickplay

[next trench]

yeah me too

[olive raven]

low int damnation will give the easiest maps and most plasteel

If you want any semblance of a challenge, auric damnation

[sour stirrup]

auric doesnt give more mats afaik

so I just farm normal damnation and watch stuff on my 2nd monitor lol

not enough plasteel in the world tbh

[ember yew]

fair enough

[fiery ingot]

is this it?

[sour stirrup]

ayo

[fiery ingot]

i dont have rampage tho

[sour stirrup]

Wrath to Rampage and Crit Dam to Carapace or Maniac

ezpz

[sour stirrup]

rip your plasteel for the near future

blessing hunting so painful

[fiery ingot]

is it hard to get it on a evis?

cant be harder than power cycler surely

[ember yew]

1/8 chance?

[fiery ingot]

oof

[sour stirrup]

ya 1/8

not the worst but still pretty bad

[ember yew]

worst is 1/10 or 1/12?

[sour stirrup]

cant be worse than me going for Surgical 3 on Oldvolver

[ember yew]

1/10 then

[sour stirrup]

I know THammer is 11

idk if 12 exists

[sour stirrup]

this was like 25k plasteel btw

all for nothing lol

[fiery ingot]

rip

haha get wrecked everyone

[sour stirrup]

ping dont work

disabled

guy is a bot tho

[oak ermine]

Force Swords have 12 IIRC

[sour stirrup]

yikes

cant wait to go through that hell when I level a Psyker

[fiery ingot]

better yet

never play psyker

[oak ermine]

And you only really want like ~4 of them

[tulip jasper]

i am playing my psyker more like a zealot if anything

[olive raven]

It’s also

[oak ermine]

Uncanny, Slaughterer, Unstable Power and maybe Deflector

[olive raven]

Not a 1/12

Or whatever

As it doesn’t account for the actual RNG behind consecration

[sour stirrup]

havent decided what I'll play next. still have a bunch of weapons I wanna go for on Zealot

[olive raven]

It’s why you only roll 360/370+ cuz it’s not worth rolling lesser base stats

So you technically roll usually quadruple what you need

So the actual numbers are fucked

[sour stirrup]

well crafting is the only endgame so

[olive raven]

A revolver, power sword, hammers, etc all have actually fucked chances of maxed blessings

[sour stirrup]

if it was less fucked game would probably get boring faster idk

[royal vortex]

the crafting system drives more people away than it retains

[olive raven]

Game gets boring cuz you have to grind for an hour just to consecrate one thing fully tbh

[sour stirrup]

plasteel

[nova ginkgo]

nah, core game keeps me playing. gambling is just ass

[olive raven]

even on new updates, absolute plasteel whales lose everything

It’s a horde shooter, not Minecraft

[royal vortex]

the crafting system would be less cancer if most weapons didn't have completely dead blessings

and you couldn't roll anything below a 350 at brunts at level 30

[clear knot]

and thigns generally costing less to upgrade, would be a huge help

[tribal trout]

Just got pranked by Melk.

[royal vortex]

if they fucked with the actual numbers for consecration and changed the plasteel/diamantine ratio to require more diamantine it'd be less annoying

[versed atlas]

any crusher builds out there that deal decent damage

[clear knot]

idk, i think curios arent a bad place to put weps, with some tweaks ofc

[olive raven]

Fr

[sour stirrup]

or have Diamantine do something else

[royal vortex]

im not going to hold out hope they'll give us a diamantine sink

[clear knot]

the cost to lvl a curio to gold vs a wep, i mean.

[olive raven]

Like one weapon getting upgrading costing an hour of my time is fucking absurd

[sour stirrup]

I mean Im a new player, only a week in and I will forever build up a boundless stack of Dia compared to the Plasteel I need

[royal vortex]

it's more realistic to just mess with some already existing numbers

u can't ever expect much of the shark

[olive raven]

Fr

[royal vortex]

mostly what i want is for crafting to involve less scenarios where you get absolutely nothing for spending resources

brunt sells you too many genuinely awful weapons

there's too many blessings that do not impact weapon performance meaningfully

[olive raven]

I love seeing 380s in brunt’s with +stamina and tier one blessings! That makes sense!

[sour stirrup]

its even funnier when Melk has a gold 14% Toughness curio or a 310 gold with tier 3 blessings up for the entire day

[royal vortex]

this is what i run with crusher

u can drop duellist/good balance if u want to path through immo nades but i have transcended the need for them

[clear knot]

i just really like restoring faith tbh

[royal vortex]

it does nothing for me

[clear knot]

its like a HR without hr

[royal vortex]

i take damage from disablers

thats about it

or i get overheaded once

[versed atlas]

is the damage ok?

[royal vortex]

the damage is great

[clear knot]

for me i mostly use it for crushers and or snipers who may annoying insta snipe me

[royal vortex]

it's not quite hsword/rashad levels but u have such good crowd control it doesn't really matter

[clear knot]

so i get a good portion of my bar back.

[olive raven]

all Josho builds shit out damage tbh

[clear knot]

josho also knows how to effectively deal damage

[olive raven]

The laspistol/ds4 build goes wild fr

[olive raven]

This

[sour stirrup]

when you guys are using Momentum keystone are you actively thinking about stacking it? or just let it work in the background

[clear knot]

which is more important then just, having a bunch of dmg talents or blessings

[versed atlas]

it just stacks passively

[royal vortex]

you're moving a lot in-game

[olive raven]

Genuine good player + good build = nutty

[royal vortex]

so u don't really have to think too hard

[versed atlas]

I much prefer it over martydom

[olive raven]

You will just have stacks

[versed atlas]

it rewards you a lot for being active

[olive raven]

Inebriates keeps you at max stacks cause ALWAYS DODGE

[royal vortex]

its what makes inebriate's poise so good because if ur not dodging u die very fast anyways

[olive raven]

Having a near constant +20% to attack things is pretty fuckin nice tbh

[sour stirrup]

Martyr is stronger tho no?

[olive raven]

I mean

Sorta

[royal vortex]

martyr doesn't apply to ranged

[oak ermine]

It’s a different power boost, only applies to melee

[royal vortex]

which is one thing to consider

[olive raven]

Martyr gives more survivability is the thing

[royal vortex]

also requires more point investments because u have 2 upgrades u want instead of 1

[oak ermine]

And Inexorable grants global attack speed and damage

[sour stirrup]

you a column brauto enjoyer through and through lol

[royal vortex]

it's on-paper "stronger" but a lot of people are going to play REALLY bad with martyr

[royal vortex]

i mean it matters for most guns besides like revolver

[olive raven]

lot of people also fundamentally misunderstand how to use it

[royal vortex]

it's a nice damage boost, with annoint in blood ur gettin some big damage modifiers

[sour stirrup]

yea thats my main ranged lol

[olive raven]

They think they should intentionally get hit

[sour stirrup]

Zarona Revolver goated

[olive raven]

When martyr should be treated as a passive

[sour stirrup]

no when I play Martyr I never do this

[royal vortex]

if ur a good player using smth like hsword yeah martyr is "stronger" but like

[sour stirrup]

I just prio last for healing stations

[royal vortex]

u can do good with any keystone

also

momentum buffs dodges

cooldown/distance etc

[olive raven]

“As you take damage you get stronger” yet they think it translates to “take damage”

[royal vortex]

so if ur like me and run weapons with <4 dodge counts its a really nice bonus

[sour stirrup]

I have a good HSword and its good but like... Evis is more fun

[oak ermine]

I think more people would understand/consider Inexorable, had this been mentioned on the skill description

[sour stirrup]

does it actually?

[oak ermine]

As is, it’s just obscure

[royal vortex]

its not a fatshark tooltip if it doesn't leave out crucial information

[ember yew]

they should just merge plasteel and diamantine into 1 resource

[sour stirrup]

wait how does it buff dodge

[royal vortex]

yeah, it used to be so strong it was basically infinite dodges in p13 iirc

but then they nerfed it

[oak ermine]

You either notice it by accident, test it thoroughly and discover it, or read about it anywhere but in the game itself

[sour stirrup]

oh wow

why dont it say that in game lmaooo

[royal vortex]

who knows

[oak ermine]

Because UI is hard

[ember yew]

there's a lot of things that's not named in the game

like the same bonus for ranged damage after dash

[oak ermine]

And relaying that much info in a description box is hard

[placid fiber]

wait... so there was a reason I was doing better besides just shroudfield? lol

cause my clutch build takes momentum

That's funny

[royal vortex]

all of my builds take momentum at this point

its the only keystone i like mechanically

[frank night]

this is mittins in the morning

good morning

[royal vortex]

hello mittins

[oak ermine]

Good day to you.

[spark raven]

If i pull shred from tatical axe could the put it on my Evis?

[frank night]

no

[olive raven]

Because Fatshark puts all its weight in its belly not its brain

[royal vortex]

nope

[oak ermine]

No, that’s a different weapon class

[royal vortex]

blessings only carry over between weapons in a family

[frank night]

hadron needs her slice of your sanity

[royal vortex]

so tactical axes are one family, eviscerators another, etc

[oak ermine]

The recovered blessing can only be applied to weapons within the same class

[nova python]

Where is the weakspot for the Twins?

[olive raven]

Head

[frank night]

da face

[nova python]

makes sense

[olive raven]

Tbh it’s better to shoot their body tho

Cuz they are similar to a mauler

[spark raven]

Why the fuck it isnt just universal have they ever explained why it isnt?

[nova python]

Ah ok, carapace heads then?

[olive raven]

🤷‍♀️

[olive raven]

Ya

A bit of carapace on the body

But it’s negligible

[royal vortex]

the less questions u ask about the motivations for why crafting is the way it is the better

nobody really knows

it just hurts the brain to think about

[olive raven]

So hit them on body for more dps on most things

[cinder roost]

Shoot maulers in the dick.

[royal vortex]

hardmode twins also have -100% hs damage on top of all their other buffs

which is funny

[spark raven]

I always will my brain is more hardwired to logic by default than others

[frozen glen]

so

no head

[olive raven]

They really tried preventing hammer o-

RED

NO

BAD

GO BACK TO YOUR CAVE

[fiery ingot]

no head

[royal vortex]

i mean hammer sucks for this fight because its huge damage multiplier on special is only for unyielding

and theres not any unyielding in the fight

[placid fiber]

So you can give hea- wait...

[olive raven]

It’s fat shark, logic doesn’t work

[olive raven]

Ya

Rashad goated for it

[spark raven]

Doesent sounds like they are thinking logical

[olive raven]

They never are

[royal vortex]

give them a year

it'll probably be marginally improved

also deathspitter applies to throwing knives

which lets u 1-shot a full hp scab rager

[next trench]

come the fuck on man

[placid fiber]

Oof

[next trench]

lets see if hadron bricks this

[placid fiber]

Hey, bloodletter is kinda nice on the chainsword

[dense karma]

i like how it lies about the rating

[placid fiber]

I mean... 375 + 45 + 45 = 465

[dense karma]

i mean the 375

its 374

[placid fiber]

the %'s aren't always exact

could be like 62.4%

79.3%

and 78.2%

and 75.1%

[dense karma]

still stupid

[placid fiber]

Stupid? Yes

[placid fiber]

I'm already in love with it

[open echo]

nooo

[clear knot]

one more shot to make it usable

[next trench]

i meeean headtaker isnt that bad

swing at a horde, get max stacks and bonk carapace enemy

[spark raven]

What ult do hammer Zealots usually run?

[open echo]

i use chatsie

[ember yew]

you can use shroud if you want to oneshot demonhosts and bosses

otherwise anything is fine

[drowsy steppe]

Chastise or stealth

[open echo]

this is my current one

[drowsy steppe]

this is great

[ember yew]

got lucky with this one

[open echo]

nice

[sharp zodiac]

The standard look for the hammer is so ugly

[subtle cedar]

I'm really confused as to why people think new laspistol is worth using over old laspistol besides if you're a vet running the stamina spend while aiming node.

Is there something i'm missing? Afaik it's got the same damage modifiers as old laspistol with lower dps and higher variance from crit

[ember yew]

i've run overview yesterday

it's not worth it

for zealot though

[native cargo]

Thats cool and all but show the real code

[spark raven]

thats the only hammer i have right now

[subtle cedar]

Er, what do you mean by run overview

Is that the vet node?

[ember yew]

you missed the discussion i mean about it yesterday

[subtle cedar]

Oh

[ember yew]

but in short tl dr

skip it

[subtle cedar]

It's exactly what i said?

[ember yew]

more ammo consumption, less rate of fire, the fire power is higher, but overall DPS is much less

[subtle cedar]

Lower dps, higher variance, no real advantage besides synergy with that vet node?

[ember yew]

cant use Ghost

[subtle cedar]

Wait it can't?

[ember yew]

no i mean you can

but the firerate is so shet

[subtle cedar]

Oh, but shoots too slowly

Yep

[ember yew]

if you miss a shot your fckd

[subtle cedar]

But yes, exactly what i said

Sweet, thought so, people having weird bias/preference takes i guess

[ember yew]

im like 150 hours+ laspistol user

this is main wep

wait

wrong one

this is the heavy i rolled

[subtle cedar]

Rofl

Yeah was bout to say

[ember yew]

this is the main one

[copper hawk]

Full auto mod my beloved

[ember yew]

im gonna try something for Ghost IV sometimes later

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-warhammer40k-spacemarine-armour-laser-gif-17566336

No impact?

[ember yew]

actually i would never tried to make one

if i paid attention that it eats 3 ammo per shot instead of 2

i was thinking it was 2 too

got scammed

[subtle cedar]

I don't consider the mag to really be an issue

[exotic portal]

Charge up uses more ammo

[ember yew]

its a heavy issue for since in pugs

[subtle cedar]

They both can continuously shoot for a pretty long time

[ember yew]

im like doing the lifting against gunners

like recent match

i was the veteran there

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/necrons-wh40k-gif-7750560

[ember yew]

tho im zealot

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-cope-warhammer-meme-shut-up-gif-24598622

[ember yew]

so yeah im out of ammo a lot of time

tho veteran with aura helps

but if there's none

it's sad life

https://tenor.com/view/theres-just-not-enough-bullets-frozone-ran-out-of-ammo-need-more-ammunition-xset-gif-21445078

[polar plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1180149094245748736/rapidsave.com_97wht1lecbj91.gif?ex=657c5e7e&is=6569e97e&hm=3d4a8873bb55ac8a8e945ccb8d45fa5bd85705497e447894c572a542121b3207&

[exotic portal]

Must be the ricochet.

[subtle cedar]

Idk, 186 total shots seems like quite a bit to me given it does hit decently hard, besides i was talking about mag size, not total ammo

[copper hawk]

Twoo

[exotic portal]

Laundry day

[copper hawk]

Full auto mod w lasgun mg1a..

[polar plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1118121230491455531/1155992398489460847/ezgif-4-fac5af971b.gif

[copper hawk]

Kbity fucked up ruh

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-breath-underwater-swim-dive-meditate-gif-16997098

[polar plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/894054612787691530/1184568675555086336/caption.gif

[karmic whale]

bloodthirsty good on old chainaxe or no

[fading vale]

no, not compared to other blessings

[karmic whale]

Thx Laz

[exotic portal]

yup

same, never run render with new knife

[karmic whale]

Render?

I hardly know her

(help)

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-gif-19215799

https://tenor.com/view/seduce-dean-winchester-supernatural-gif-13328540

Render without blessing thou, thammer.

impact 🙌

[open echo]

nooooooooooo

[exotic portal]

thunderstrike on an already staggered assasion mission boss

perfect

[ornate bone]

MMM
Sexo Sexo!

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-awful-meme-funny-gif-24724857

[raven swan]

Е despise gunners given the way I play (flamer and brutax)

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/opm-one-punch-man-gif-22204781

[frosty herald]

Bait

[next trench]

lets gooo

she didnt brick it

[ornate bone]

in the end we all know why we were imprisoned

[strong current]

What armor type are mobs when I used chasite

Flak?

[clear knot]

chastise downgrades all armor types by one for (iirc), 3 seconds. so carapace armor is downgraded to flak, and flak is downgraded to unarmored.

thats for ranged dmg, for melee it reduces armor for the first melee hit as well.

[strong current]

Okay so to melt crushers I need to have flak instead of carapace right?

[clear knot]

no

actually

[strong current]

For flamer

[clear knot]

your cara perk will still work with chastise active.

it jsut changes the way armor dmg is handled for a short amount of time

[ember yew]

its annoying when they stand there and shoot for a minute or two

[clear knot]

so im not losing any value by runnign a 25 flak perk when i run chastise, because it will still give me that extra dmg against the flak enemies while im in my ult

[strong current]

Wait so it does not change my dmg perks? I mean if I have flak on it will not increase my dmg to crushers while chaiste

[clear knot]

correct

[ember yew]

its just changed armor values, but does not change modificator itself

[strong current]

Oki

[native cargo]

If you chastise the poxwalker with nothing but a trench coat and undies then are they naked armor wise?

[strong current]

Then I guess in order to melt crusher horde by myself guess I have to roll a perfect flamer

With lv4 blessings on both

[clear knot]

76 burn is the most important part of a flamers stats

[native cargo]

76 burn

[clear knot]

that allows you to reach max burn stacks

[strong current]

Yea I have it at 80

Still can’t kill crushers horde

It will let them have like 30-50 health left

Guess it’s becuz I only have the two blessings on iii instead of 4

If I have level 4 blaze away I think I can single handed melt the horde

[clear knot]

yeah blaze away and insp barrage is what i personally run, with flak+elite

[blissful frigate]

Lvl 4 blaze away moment

[native cargo]

Just hit em with the jiggy with it and they can't do shit. Trust.

[strong current]

Tho in practice not that important cuz after all teammates are a thing

[clear knot]

that doesnt exist btw

[strong current]

Yea I am running blaze away and the increased dmg with lesser ammo in mag

[strong current]

Rly?

[clear knot]

yeah

[strong current]

Dang it rip my plastels

[clear knot]

overpressure doesnt work with the long fire/braced mode of flamer also

which is why i use insp barrage

[strong current]

What

That’s stupid

[clear knot]

only the primary action

the lil puff puff

[strong current]

It’s like the fan of flame

Looks great but doesn’t work well

Guess I’ll change it to quick flame or inspring brrage

How’s about show maker or that thing makes elite explotes

[ebon granite]

How does chastise work during rev up

[clear knot]

wdym

[ebon granite]

I saw chocoB use Rev attack (animation) -> chastise

Instead of doing it before

[still quartz]

Oh

[clear knot]

that is the one perk i also cant recommend

[still quartz]

What happens is that the Crit is applied to ALL ticks

[clear knot]

it doesnt do enuff

[fiery ingot]

its because chastise treats enemy armor as one tier below for 3 seconds

[still quartz]

Instead of only the main hit if you Chastise before a Rev hit

[fiery ingot]

so cara becomes flak

[ebon granite]

Ah

[still quartz]

Well that

Basically that

[ebon granite]

So it is better to activate chastise during rev attack animation against carapace

[native cargo]

First don't trust what you see on YT its all lies and second don't trust anything said here as its also lies

[still quartz]

Trust the Rat

He speaks truth

[strong current]

Oki btw

[still quartz]

finally a paradox

[strong current]

Have they fixed the 50 weakspot dmg on dodge?

[native cargo]

[fiery ingot]

always trust the internet

can never go wrong

[still quartz]

For what

[blissful frigate]

Probably not

[still quartz]

What is that bug specifically

[blissful frigate]

Zealot talent, same area as Until Death

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/have-at-thee-rat-jump-gif-3333922911057271749

[still quartz]

Against anything you want dead

[blissful frigate]

Apparently wouldn't give any dmg bonus

[strong current]

It’s just not working

[still quartz]

Oh Duellist isn't working?

[strong current]

Sadge that’s some big dmg I’m looking for

[still quartz]

Only the Finesse part is?

[native cargo]

I'm on my ogryn arc so idk what this finesse is

[still quartz]

Rat Ogryn

[fiery ingot]

rorgre

[left iron]

It has never not worked. It did not have a icon showing when it was active, and that was fixed recently

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/skaven-warhammer-rat-ogre-total-war-packmaster-gif-25555285

[polar nexus]

Sauce?

[native cargo]

in lore skaven

[clear knot]

yeah, its never not worked.

just that the icon wouldnt show up in buff bar

[still quartz]

Hm

[polar nexus]

👍

[native cargo]

Fat Shark and their buff bars smh

broken game refunding after hundreds of hours can't believe it

smh

[clear knot]

refunding my 2k hours played game wahammer 40k darktide

[native cargo]

"You want the time back or the money?"

[clear knot]

money pls

[strong current]

Nice

Okay my hammer time

[still quartz]

I can't believe they reduced my Power Sword damage by 1 singular digit

Refunding the game, can't fuckin play anymore

[blissful frigate]

Someone said a while ago in a reddit post, then spread to a bunch of comments on other posts

[still quartz]

Ew Darktide Reddit

Worse than this chat in its afterhours

[lean lark]

ok let me open up darktide reddit and read the first new post

[blissful frigate]

Both are part of the realm of chaos

[still quartz]

Darktide Reddit's most coldest take:
buff [insert obviously jack shit op weapon] here

[next trench]

what perk yall suggest

[lean lark]

first new post

i think that says enough

[native cargo]

Found this in the reddit. Idk what the hell to think

[lean lark]

sprint eff to +flak and devastating strike to savage sweep

or rampage

[frosty herald]

The rizzler

[blissful frigate]

Wish there was a way to make bleed useful for more than mercy killer

Taking all the base dmg buffs on vet to try and boost his bleed dmg just makes your weapons one shot anyways

[polar nexus]

With uncanny.

[fading vale]

if only there was a blessing that applied rending to bleed

[native cargo]

If only bleed

[tardy bramble]

😭

[fading vale]

I assume that it only more difficult to get now cause everyone kills shit so fast

[native cargo]

Do hi int, run ahead of the team, get a horde going, hope for the best. Trust

tbh I just kinda played the game and got it

[ebon granite]

First of all, Heresy for dying out of duty

Second of all, L rizz

[blissful frigate]

There used to be pockets of pox walkers that made that real easy

[native cargo]

I haven't looked at the zealot penances for a long time

[blissful frigate]

Basically unaggroed horde

[native cargo]

So Idk what is what anymore

[left iron]

Only shows up in lights out now

[tardy bramble]

That's the thing
They are always right behind me
It's like pub teams turn into best coherency team when I try to do the penance

[frosty herald]

Use flamer

[native cargo]

Are you able to do it in a private game? get your AI teammates downed and try it ig

[tardy bramble]

I use flamer but pull out time after throwing nade is awful

It gives me bolter vibes

[fading vale]

brauto should be able to do it as well

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/skinwalker-disguised-as-a-planet-planet-disguised-doomsday-laser-gif-25012493

[fading vale]

agri brauto has 2.0 cleave

[native cargo]

Just m1 really fast

[polar nexus]

Does bleed benefit from onslaught on vet?

[sharp zodiac]

Rizzle me this

[polar nexus]

Or from the rending node?

[fading vale]

no idea

[placid fiber]

No I won't rizz you, Luna

I got better things... like killing heretics... and annoying lazo- Oh, hi Lazorr. >.>'

[lean lark]

the dmg? yes. the onslaught effect itself? not anymore

you used to be able to proc onslaught per dot tick

now you cant anymore

i had a vet build with kantrael that just melted everything

and insannely ammo efficient

[placid fiber]

Being ornery makes me want sugar in my coffee...

[fading vale]

fatsharks slow but steady effort to make ranged things ranged and melee things melee

[lean lark]

shame i didnt have flechette at the time

would've been even better

[nimble fiber]

https://youtu.be/HRdKVJaNcLo?feature=shared

[polar nexus]

Ah fuck I wish I had known that earlier

[placid fiber]

Hey, Lazorr, I think I found live footage of you driving

https://tenor.com/view/drifter-risk-of-rain-returns-drifter-risk-of-rain-returns-risk-of-rain-returns-drifter-gif-17792526599931004715

[fading vale]

just did the twins for the first time, absolutely no fucking clue what was going on in the final fight

[placid fiber]

[fading vale]

🤔

[placid fiber]

Oh wait... that would be me driving...

I'm surprised there isn't an oversized backpack for people who are loot goblins >.>

[fading vale]

their shields did appear to take actual damage from hammer special though

[placid fiber]

did it use the special?

[fading vale]

what

[placid fiber]

I mean could you whack again and again with it

rapidly

[fading vale]

it was as expected

[polar nexus]

I thought bleed benefitted from a rending blessing like uncanny. If so, doest that work for other dots like the Kant?

[placid fiber]

used up and gone, like my will to play any rpg- That's a different subject. <.<'

[fading vale]

I've never tested burn rending but I imagine it would

[placid fiber]

be...?

or that the burn would gain damage from rending?

[fading vale]

that burn would gain damage from rending

[native cargo]

Which one o ye is a landlubber

[placid fiber]

I'm guessing that's what you meant, but, I am simply too low of a singular brain cell

[placid fiber]

I am sir singular the braincell, of the 5th legion

[frozen glen]

play rogue trader

[native cargo]

death to landlubbers

[placid fiber]

That was my cousin

who was of the 4th legion

[native cargo]

only landlubbers get hit by cannon balls

[fading vale]

I need a happy anime to watch, I'm too sad after seeing happy people dying

[placid fiber]

Poor soul didn't make it much further after that...

[placid fiber]

uh... um... uh... idk any non-depressing anime

I also don't watch most anime...

[fading vale]

right

a lot of really good stuff

[placid fiber]

I have a super old one I can recommend

[fading vale]

is also so sad

[placid fiber]

that is somewhat sadish, but, kind of happy go lucky

[tame mirage]

Clannad

lol

[fading vale]

bruh

[native cargo]

uhhh angel beats idk

[fading vale]

I just watched Clannad

Jesus christ

[tame mirage]

ha

[placid fiber]

Have you seen uh... Ruroni Kenshin? lol That's the happiest one I can recommend that I know

but it's fucking ancient af

[fading vale]

maybe I'll check out angel beats

[clear knot]

yuru camp is comfy and chill

[fading vale]

I have seen it, they are also remaking it rn

[native cargo]

Uhhh idk much animes so...angel beats?

[placid fiber]

Wait, really?! 😮

[fading vale]

yeah

[placid fiber]

[fading vale]

I want to say a whole remade season is out

[placid fiber]

My body... is ready... I think...

[fading vale]

also

live action ruroni kenshin on Netflix

[placid fiber]

Eh

[fading vale]

was surprisingly really good

[placid fiber]

Okay, I might watch it

[native cargo]

Just watch the boondocks according to google thats an anime

[fading vale]

lol

[placid fiber]

lol

[frosty herald]

I cant recommend anything since i only watch seinen

[native cargo]

fr

[tame mirage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/941030637870137404/1176978554270011505/58724b8821a7fa444a70d1210182247be30fdb44.gif?ex=6570d5b2&is=655e60b2&hm=920f67770f9443d53a902832514ed669b877e8bb2b0042b7beeba5896b4fb945&

[placid fiber]

pokemon! XD

[fading vale]

I watch pretty much all genres including trash

[native cargo]

boondocks is my kinda anime

btw idk wtf that toothbrush anime is

kinda scared

[placid fiber]

My shiny teeth and me?

oh God...

[fading vale]

I bet it's really sad somehow

[native cargo]

The tooth brush is a long dead friend. They possessed the tooth brush

[placid fiber]

o_o'

What are they doing with the toothbrush...?

Oh God, I don't want to know...

[native cargo]

One of my friends is really into fooly cooly so

idk

[native cargo]

handsome

[placid fiber]

Best looking thing I've seen all day

[fading vale]

God this sadly reminds me of that one new anime where dude died from eating raw pig liver and reincarnated as a pig and is in love with a woman

[placid fiber]

Oh God

[fading vale]

the fuck are the writers on

[tame mirage]

nurse shark!

[placid fiber]

NEED NURSE ASAP!

[tame mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-viralhog-spinning-underwater-dancing-nursing-shark-gif-20516417

[placid fiber]

Even my wife is horrified by that lol

[fading vale]

lol

vending machine was actually kinda entertaining though

[placid fiber]

Sometimes the meth and/or cocaine heads can hit gold...

sometimes... we know what mix they were probably on >.>

so... think 1 cup of sugar is enough for coffee? >_>'

[clear knot]

noh

[fading vale]

all I know is Japanese people seem to hate living and being adults (according to anime)

[placid fiber]

I need 2 cups?!

[placid fiber]

I mean... doesn't that match most people irl...?

[fading vale]

I guess so

just drink your coffee black

[placid fiber]

I am drinking the sugar for the sugar

to see if it helps me any

[copper hawk]

boondocks

[placid fiber]

saints?

x.x

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/whatdyousay-gif-25582023

[placid fiber]

I prefer black coffee, but, I am seeing if I can feel better with the sugar :/

ugh, it tastes like sugar water... 😦

[fading vale]

wait does angel beats have piano

[placid fiber]

what?

I don't know, I haven't watched it x.x

[fading vale]

cause the intro has piano

[placid fiber]

Piano is good

for da soul

[fading vale]

for whatever reason I have a soft spot for piano

it's nice

[placid fiber]

I like piano in general

My mom taught a lot of piano when I was a kid >.>

[fading vale]

the anime I just watched was a happy/sad romance with a lot of piano

hits hard

[placid fiber]

Piano can drive a lot of emotions home, really well

Don't you hate it when your right big toe touches the teeth of a fish and you just... disintigrate?

[tame mirage]

hardmode

[cinder roost]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=rJAn7KcJChc&si=XoykdGY7kpr2K_iI

[still quartz]

I still haven't fully emotionally recovered from Angel Beats

[frosty herald]

a happy anime

way of the househusband?

[still quartz]

Tis a good and funny one, yes

[keen silo]

is lawbringer shotgun good?

[verbal scarab]

Do Zealots run Man Stopper on Kantrael shotguns? Do they pair it with another crit blessing or no respite?

[still quartz]

Yes

[still quartz]

Usually want that paired with Scattershot but you can just do uh

[native cargo]

I never watched it I just know bringing it up makes people sad

[still quartz]

No Respite + Deathspitter / Fire Frenzy

[native cargo]

On your new evis you want angel beats + clannad

[still quartz]

Dude, I thought I was in for a pretty lighthearted show of a school in the afterlife

[native cargo]

Animes do be like that ig

[verbal scarab]

scattershot + man stopper for lawbringer and agripina and flechette+scattershot for kantrael?

[spark raven]

Is this a good build for Sword https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth i sadly couldnt get rampage my sword has wrath instead

[native cargo]

Like AoT was the typical shonen then it turned into a cool rebellion against a government then into some wild fucking rumbling shit

Making me like: What am I watching

[still quartz]

Agripiina should be Full Bore + No Respite

Kantrael with Flechette + Scattershot is a funny meme but that should be for Lawbringer

[sharp zodiac]

The build has some things that I would absolutely change

[still quartz]

Kantrael, just run No Respite + Fire Frenzy or something

[sharp zodiac]

Like the whole two wounds and bleed for the Emperor node

(the ones you get when you don't pick any sounds qurio)

Wounds

[still quartz]

I'd change the build to being a Bleed Stealth Knife Loner Invis

:^)

[sharp zodiac]

With lacerate and fleshtezrer

[still quartz]

Yes

[spark raven]

I already have a stealth build

And blessings on the weapon are locked icant change them

[verbal scarab]

Im gonna run No respite + Scattershot because Im trying to make this Chorus build more interesting. Was running mk2 revolver, havent crafted a decent mk14 yet

[native cargo]

Idk about you guys but I just think devastating strike is op on all the zealot weapons it really shines when you use it on the daemonhost

[still quartz]

Tis but a joke

[still quartz]

Nah run Scattershot + Flechette then, it's very fun

I do that for my Chorus build xd

Bleed + Burn, almost like a little Flamer

If only Flechette could go to T4 and apply more stacks

[verbal scarab]

sadly Im locked into No Respite

[still quartz]

Oh okay

[sharp zodiac]

Still a good thing to lock in on

[still quartz]

Yeah very much so

[dense field]

sadly Im locked into the BiS blessing

[native cargo]

Shoulda locked in hit & run smh

[verbal scarab]

I am playing a class I rarely play, trying to get more weekly currency. excuse me for wanting some more build variety

[native cargo]

o.O

[sharp zodiac]

Moo

[native cargo]

Its fine to go for build variety idt anyone was antagonizing you for it

[native cargo]

hush four legged udder

[still quartz]

Squeak squeak

[sharp zodiac]

Woww

[native cargo]

Approved

[still quartz]

[native cargo]

Squeakinese is an approved language

[sharp zodiac]

Rat calling the creature under your bed four legged

[native cargo]

Damn right

That skinwalker isn't fooling me

[still quartz]

Skinwalker when they realize that my body fucking sucks (I ate all the laxatives prior to dying)

[native cargo]

The skinwalker disguised as a universe when I activate the halo rings

Damn hours ago you guys were talking about this

[spark raven]

the blessing have locked symbol next to them and dont want run stealth on every zealot build i play

[forest dew]

You know, after using the combat axe and a martyr stealth build. I don't think I can run anything else on the zealot anymore. Super clutchy, carries pubs, and does poopy tons of damage.

[royal vortex]

finally

[native cargo]

da hell this mean

[open echo]

D:

[native cargo]

Idt I experienced htis maybe?

Thank fuck they fixed that so I don't hear stealth zealots repeatedly saying their lines over and over

Was pretty annoying

[open echo]

its funny when 4 zealots are doing it

[royal vortex]

i had a pub zealot get mad at me because i dared to run 30 meters ahead during a bonbon fight to rescue someone

[still quartz]

So THAT's how it triggered

[royal vortex]

he spent the whole game dragging and farming poxwalkers

[open echo]

lmao

[royal vortex]

took him a solid 30 seconds longer than everyone else to get into every elevator/airlock

[quaint verge]

After he barrelling the person too

[native cargo]

explain to me what a bonbon is idk this lingo

[royal vortex]

beast of nurgle

[open echo]

huh

[royal vortex]

hotfix

[open echo]

i just downloaded the patch

[open echo]

already downloaded it

[royal vortex]

download it again

[tropic pelican]

maybe they havent

[quaint verge]

Tell your friends to update :v

[native cargo]

That doesn't exist. In a different convo with an inquisition agent, the bonbon doesn't exist. It is the Atoman Snail

Mutated ofc

[royal vortex]

thats right

very true

[copper hawk]

Atoman snail

[quaint verge]

BoNBoN

[spark raven]

What does Heavy sword run on Curios when not using stealth?

[copper hawk]

Noh

[native cargo]

No its the Atoman Snail

[copper hawk]

It's burgle

[quaint verge]

ASAS

[copper hawk]

2x hp 1x tness

What i run

Each curio havin +tness and +hp

W the talents i run for my hs ix i have 171 tness and 310 hp

Essentially unkillable

[royal vortex]

any combination of health/toughness is fine

wounds if ur doin marty

[open echo]

i switched from that to 2x tness 1x health recently

[spark raven]

Thats the build i used as a reference but i might need tailor it more to my playstyle https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

I never run stealth

I ran stealth only for hardmode

[forest dew]

I never did before running with a combat axe, that shit slaps.

[spark raven]

my knife build runs stealth

[copper hawk]

W like a specially curated chaxe xii build

[royal vortex]

stealth is ok

[copper hawk]

I dont rlly like it tbh

[royal vortex]

the problem is it doesn't grant attack speed

[forest dew]

Depends how you use it.

[copper hawk]

I try to fill the role of aggro glooper

[forest dew]

I use stealth to create a consistant front line for the team.

[copper hawk]

Bein the center of a maelstrom of bloodshed, to take pressure off teammates

[royal vortex]

my favorite part about stealth is the group of people who really don't like it

[copper hawk]

Specifically snoykers and Snoyeranz

[forest dew]

Get into melee range with no danger.

[royal vortex]

more than it being useful itself

[copper hawk]

I just dodge slide shooters

Or use my agri brauto b4 pushing

Agri my beloved..

[fiery ingot]

got this emperor gift. should i keep this thing or eat it for one of the blessings?

[forest dew]

Ding dongs who run super far ahead and stealth to dump all the agro they just got give it a bad name.

[royal vortex]

because theyll blame people being dipshits on a certain build when pub knife zealot speedrunners always existed

news flash

ppl were complaining about knifers from day 1

its not new, it's not stealth or loner aura's fault

[forest dew]

There is no knife build that I have that uses stealth though.

Well, lacerate builds were totally busted in the begining.

[royal vortex]

also vet stealth has way more problematic implications for the game

than zealot stealth

but people ain't ready for that a lot of the time

[native cargo]

I enjoy it when I see someone stealth and do an objective. Makes me wanna pat them on the head but I'm afraid of hurting them cus am ogryn usually now

[royal vortex]

like 3-6s of no aggro on a knife zealot shouldnt be making u fold

but like

2x charges

10s of -90% threat

and 8s of stealth on vet

[open echo]

why is this fun

[royal vortex]

now we're getting into griefing territory lmao

[open echo]

oh wow

[quaint verge]

Just use the complementary rock

[royal vortex]

also like

use the crusher

its very fun

[native cargo]

Use the crusher. It crushes stuff

[quaint verge]

I should incl. It for next time then.

[native cargo]

I will give them tiny rock

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

[open echo]

whats the ideal perks/blessings for the new chaxe?

[placid fiber]

My wife had me fuck around my router which has been messed up for a while, wasn't sure I could even fucking get the interent back... but I did. I said something to my internet company a while back, but, they haven't sent someone to look at the power chord yet

[quaint verge]

Depends

Slaughter and headtaker

Unyielding and cara if you like to hunt big bois

If you do, HT/slaughter + thrust

[open echo]

i see

ty

[quaint verge]

I two shot crushers with non-rev heavy with 1 stack thrust each

So it's all about preference.

[copper hawk]

I do ht and thrust on the new chainaxe

[open echo]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ae50354-e284-41ad-a930-0d80ad5972a3/chaxe-test hows this as a build for it?

[copper hawk]

For the hardmode twins i did bloodletter and thrust

[open echo]

i used a really dumb build that wouldn't work well outside of hardmode twins

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9adf3e93-1a6a-44c5-872a-ee4a96b2fdb5/stupid-hard-mode-twins-build

[royal vortex]

scourge isnt getting u anything worthwhile i would drop it for good balance

[forest dew]

I just used my standard Caxe, martyr, stealth build for HM Twins.

[open echo]

never used that before

[halcyon elbow]

i think i should go with carapace armor right? instead of unyielding

thought unyielding would b nice but having some issues vs dem carapace armor

[frosty herald]

im gonna be real with you chief

[lucid ravine]

what's the deal with the combat and tac axes? I can't seem to figure out a good role for them in a build

[halcyon elbow]

knife is garbage

[frosty herald]

this is not a good knife

[halcyon elbow]

ik

but im out of plasteel

[frozen glen]

ur issue with carapace is that u dont have uncanny

[halcyon elbow]

so that's gotta do with it

[frosty herald]

id suggest getting uncanny fleshtearer/precognition

[stray cedar]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-2-22/89770

Duelist has an icon now

[forest dew]

Tac axes are... ok.. Combat axes with brutal momentum fucking rule. Use them with martyr builds.

[dreamy quail]

hello zealot friends, what to refine on this roll?

[halcyon elbow]

i have precognition, so ig i use that instead of the humansized enemy thing

[lucid ravine]

i mean isn't combat axe just a different kind of knife?

they both have the same stats

[frozen ibex]

Knife flamer in 2024

[frosty herald]

haymaker never procs

like ever

[quaint verge]

T4 haymaker procs quite often

[frosty herald]

funny tip

[buoyant rune]

what u guys think of the new heavy las pistol?

[frosty herald]

the punch heavy of mk6 knife combos into heavy 1

[frozen ibex]

Yeah I know but that's too much micro for me.

Just push attack spam. Xd

[frank night]

its good

[open echo]

another sacrifice

[frank night]

u can use it on a few things

deadshot vet etc

[royal vortex]

so true

[frank night]

especially deadshot

[open echo]

one day hadron won't fuck me over

[frank night]

deadshot

[royal vortex]

im not good enough for deadshot

[native cargo]

Defenses is 63% smh needs to be 80

[frosty herald]

Josho

Main hellbore

[open echo]

nuh

[royal vortex]

no

[frosty herald]

Weak

[native cargo]

Nuh uh is correct

Here have a pat

[next trench]

4th mission in a row in the colisseum map or whatever its called someone gets the whole team killed by fighting far from us

pog

[forest dew]

You see, you just gotta be good enough yourself to carry a team through that.

[native cargo]

You mean mercantile? It does have a literal arena ig

[frosty herald]

Sometimes you gotta leave someone behind

[next trench]

not when theres 6 gunners supressing me

cant even shoot back

god dammit stay inside the psycher shield

[ornate bone]

"Fixed an issue that prevented Zealot Shroudfield combat ability from entering cooldown when sprinting and activating the ability at the same time."

[copper hawk]

Day 3917391+e10 of me askin 4 a series of missions that tie into one another like in V2 of us defending the mourningstar from an attack

[native cargo]

Mourningstar got boarded by the one piece

[olive raven]

So fun thing in Darktide

[hushed knoll]

MITTINS HI

[glass pelican]

usually when that happens i just leave them to die

much safer

[olive raven]

Sometimes not reviving someone is more beneficial

Sometimes not running after them is beneficial

[frank night]

helo stan

[olive raven]

I’ve often let a teammates die because it would’ve meant the run failing if I tried to revive there and so you just run to the rescue spot

[frank night]

u just gotta get game sense

sometimes you dont wanna go for the rescue when you know you can move the rescue point further away from the mob chasing you

[frank night]

sometimes you know the downed guy is in an area with infinite elite spawns

sometimes the trapped guy is posting at you in team chat and you don't like him

[hushed knoll]

Oh wow what is this

[olive raven]

The best way to clutch is to run like a little bitch

[hushed knoll]

Why do you always write hello with one l

[olive raven]

Barnyard breakfast sandwich

[hushed knoll]

Seems sus

Barnyard?

[sturdy cypress]

This is why i die immediately after my teammates

[olive raven]

Sausage, bacon, ham, egg, cheese

[frank night]

helo

[sturdy cypress]

I put up a final stand anddiein glorious combat

[frank night]

and yeah a lot of ppl ensure the wipe by continuing to fight like they're 4 people

and thus brick the mission

[sturdy cypress]

(I get netted in 10 seconds)

[frank night]

so true bestie

i also like briefly getting stuck in a corner

[olive raven]

Like also rule of thumb

[frank night]

and then a bomber nade bounces off the top of my head

[olive raven]

If facing a crusher/mauler/rager pack

Alone

Do understand you aren’t him

You aren’t gonna magically shit out damage

[frank night]

who's him

i am him

[royal vortex]

so TRUE

[olive raven]

Oh tbh if I don’t like a teammate I let em die

Usually

Especially if they picked a grim up

Or have been holding an ammo or medic pack for too long

Fuck em

[frank night]

ive never seen some1 unironically pick up a grim in like 3 months

[forest dew]

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-meme-use-your-head-gif-4595800915730774837

[sturdy cypress]

You must have amnesia you forgot that im him

[forest dew]

sometimes you gotta let them die to heal them.

[royal vortex]

the last 10 times i have

they die

[olive raven]

I’ve had

5-7 matches where people did

And I immediately begged them to break that shit 💀

[frank night]

the message that grims are useless was decently spread

unless it wasnt

[forest dew]

How are you supposed to look at a grim at the end of the game if you don't pick them up?

[olive raven]

I can play with the corruption but their 2 wound extra psyker cannot

[royal vortex]

my mentality is that if u think ur good enough to carry it u can grab it

but if u go down

im not reviving u

u get 1 chance

[olive raven]

General chat is full of lobotomies

[coarse temple]

Grims aren't useless bc you do get extra rewards BUT you need to have enough grim resistance so it doesn't harm anyone

[olive raven]

Grims are useless

The reward is fuck all

[royal vortex]

my extra 5,000 ordo dockets

pog

[copper hawk]

We have a Servitor in chat

Wr have a Servitor in chat

[coarse temple]

I had a guy act all pissy when I had him break a grim to not throw a damnation game

[copper hawk]

Let me get rid of this Servitor

[frank night]

grims need to apply a % bonus to crafting materials to be werf

[olive raven]

Exponentially increase the risk of losing ALL rewards in exchange for 5k ordos

[forest dew]

The Theta Squad in me will always pick up grims.

[frank night]

altho i have also deliberately carried a grim because someone was screaming at me to break it

the duality of man

[copper hawk]

https://youtu.be/MqLGrMg---0?si=Osx07u__L8Hdc-Si

[olive raven]

Each one should be like .33x extra everything

[coarse temple]

Doesn't it also give xp tho? If you still have a character under 30

[forest dew]

ScroogeMcDucks UNITE.

[royal vortex]

if someone stands by a scrip/grim and pings it more than once

i will never

grab it

wrong reply

[olive raven]

It’s still pretty useless

[royal vortex]

i meant to reply to the satanic entity

masquerading as a cat

[frank night]

meow

[coarse temple]

Ig

[olive raven]

I’d prefer finishing a run and getting significantly more than potentially ruining a run

[royal vortex]

suffer

[coarse temple]

But again if they have enough grim resistance

Who cares

[royal vortex]

do not reply with 'prosper'

i will be angry

[coarse temple]

And that's 1% of people

[frank night]

thrive

[olive raven]

No one runs grim resistance

[royal vortex]

god damnit

[coarse temple]

Some weirdos do