#zealot-class

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polar nexus
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  1. It's not a beginner weapon 2. Used well it's the maximum bonk dmg
sage swan
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crucis is recommended because it's heavy attacks are a significatnly better chain, and it does more damage, but ironhelm special cleaves through chaff, and detonates the first elite it hits, thats the tradeoff

verbal thunder
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... Huh, I... I'm not sure. I will try that, I suppose! I unbound my jump key because it kept getting me hit.

north sedge
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jump heavies, you can also aim so that you're intended target is at the edge of the screen and will get hit first

spark violet
verbal thunder
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Ohhh...

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Man that is weird

delicate shadow
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u don't need that node, I don't think I've used that node much at all outside a heavy sword build

north sedge
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yea i dont use the heavy toughness node either

verbal thunder
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Kind of sucks because my Crucis is basically god rolled, but damn is it clunky to use

subtle cedar
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That node is great

polar nexus
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Yes but you could go martyr with bleed of the emperor and splurge in the middle instead of going right

north sedge
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just takes some learnin

polar nexus
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So it opens new possibilities

north sedge
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and jumpin

coarse birch
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i just run blood redemption or w/e its called tbh

verbal thunder
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That's why I have memories of the thunder hammer hitting elites/bosses through hordes.

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I used to use ironhelm

sage swan
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Ironhelm has a really... unique attack chain, thats hard to acclimate too, but I prefer it to crucis after getting used to it

olive raven
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What horrific takes are being stated today

delicate shadow
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if you take second wind you already become god by default

spark violet
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crucis slaps so hard

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upto 60% faster swing speed now that stims exist

verbal thunder
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Why do folk prefer the Crucis if hordes and unintended targets can eat their thunder hammer attack?

coarse birch
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plus you can spam chastise so often toughness is really not an issue on zealot for me

verbal thunder
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Sure more damage, but how much more exactly?

coarse birch
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not so much id go out of my way for heavy attack toughness

olive raven
verbal thunder
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25% base?

spark violet
polar nexus
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I asked this question a few hours ago but bloodthirsty on the chaxe is useless right?

subtle cedar
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Imo it's way more worthwhile to learn to hit things with crucius special amongst hordes than it is to master ironhelm's combo routes

coarse birch
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yeah i wouldnt run it on chaxe

olive raven
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@delicate shadow I’m horrified already by the takes I’ve read today

verbal thunder
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Huh interesting

plucky gate
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bloodthirsty evis seems like a fun meme
would try if i actually had bloodthirsty unlocked

verbal thunder
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So what are some key points to mastering the Crucis' special heavy attack?

valid garden
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which of these two should I take on my knife backstab build?

verbal thunder
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How do you hit it reliably?

placid heron
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For an evis/chastise build, would you recommend blazing piety or inexorable judgement?

spark violet
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with the unstopable perk hammer ignores most enemies mass

polar nexus
valid garden
subtle cedar
valid garden
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also is this even necessary?

coarse birch
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no

valid garden
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thanks x2

coarse birch
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you dont need that node

oak geyser
delicate shadow
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no, it's a bait

verbal thunder
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Understood, I will give it some work then

olive raven
verbal thunder
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Time to become mario for the God Emperor.

sage swan
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comparing Ironhelm and Crucis damage on their specials is already like comparing Hercules and Heracles, they're both so far above the rest already

olive raven
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2% toughness a second average

delicate shadow
verbal thunder
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What ult is best ran with it?

valid garden
delicate shadow
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so yea, bait node, should be changed or deleted

olive raven
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Sorry 5% but still it’s horrid

ornate bone
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what blessing should I get on the new evis again so it punches through garbage?

oak geyser
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Assuming you run 2 wounds curios and intentionally spend most of the match with between 1 and 2 wounds available, its a 20-25% toughness damage reduction

valid garden
polar nexus
delicate shadow
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tbf youtubers literally only ever have bad takes

olive raven
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Also @spark violet I’d highly recommend switching block efficiency to flak or maniac

north sedge
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the bleed knife stuff has been on a roar since this weekend

olive raven
delicate shadow
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I don't think I've seen a single good take from a DT YTer

verbal thunder
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What ult is best ran w/ Crucis?

spark violet
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nah I block often

oak geyser
olive raven
spark violet
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I have max block efficiency

olive raven
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It is playstyle specific

verbal thunder
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Oh, fair enough.

coarse birch
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chastise is probably "technically" the best

north sedge
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🤔

coarse birch
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but whatever works for you

verbal thunder
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I will experiment some then.

olive raven
verbal thunder
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I usually prefer Chastise since it saves people from being chewed to peices

delicate shadow
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best ult is chastise if you wanna get technical, shroudfield viable

chorus honestly just run a different weapon

valid garden
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(just removed retributor's stance for second wind,) some options I could take are prob 50% toughness on melee, swift certainty, duellist, 20% unyielding and infested, or TWBS maybe?

spark violet
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being able to tank the entire moveset of 5 ragers is nice

spark violet
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plus you can revive through anything

olive raven
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stagger them

verbal thunder
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Interesting though, thanks lads!

olive raven
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use immolation

valid garden
spark violet
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depends on the situation

olive raven
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You have enough block by default

oak geyser
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Ragers are way too common for immolation grenades to be the default answer

coarse birch
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its good on knife your dodging constantly

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and you only have one point

valid garden
coarse birch
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oh i thought you had a free point

void iron
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Have we been able to turn our characters on the select screen this entire time

valid garden
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I replaced the bottom keystone modifier

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for it

coarse birch
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ah i see

void iron
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Also I know this is a melk brebrick but imma see what I can do w this

coarse birch
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which knife are you running

north sedge
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meh

oak geyser
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Does second wind work on ranged attacks, and if so does it work on ones dodged with sprints or slides rather than actual dodges?

valid garden
warped dragon
coarse birch
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honestly that build looks mostly fine, id swap to the +unyielding and infested node though

verbal thunder
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Are there any bosskiller equivellant weapons on Zealot to the Crucis?

coarse birch
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no

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new evis is good at it tho

verbal thunder
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Not even the Eviscerator?

valid garden
verbal thunder
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nice

oak geyser
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Chaxes are really good for boss killing but they're not literal one taps

verbal thunder
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I may try that weapon next

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Doesnt have to be a 1 tap

warped dragon
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Nothing in the entire game competes with crucis boss dmg

coarse birch
verbal thunder
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Does the new eviscerator have a vertical or thrust heavy attack?

spark violet
warped dragon
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maybe old bolter

coarse birch
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i dont have any issues otherwise although i will say thy wrath be swift is very good

verbal thunder
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Good to know

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Thank ya Nam

valid garden
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all the red circles basically

spark violet
ripe quest
verbal thunder
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How does the new eviscerator perform against flak/maniacs?

delicate shadow
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duellist is a big boost for weapons like knife even if you aren't on a crit build because you still get very juicy weakspot hit scaling out of it

spark violet
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heavy swing 1 taps them

verbal thunder
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Good for mixed hordes?

spark violet
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no need to charge it

verbal thunder
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Yo, nice

oak geyser
verbal thunder
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Niiice

spark violet
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it does a weird half charge on heavy swings and push attacks

polar nexus
verbal thunder
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Sounds like I'd probably prefer the Eviscerator over the Crucis.

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Personally

coarse birch
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yeah id say duellist or TWBS

dense kraken
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Which Perk should i reroll and what are your recommendations for perks?

hardy surge
languid canyon
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ill have to test that when I have more plasteel 😭

valid garden
coarse birch
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endure

ripe quest
valid garden
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but in theory I suppose it would save points

oak geyser
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Duelist can be used with the right build to one shot crushers with a heavy MK12 Chaxe heavy without chastise or revving

dense kraken
hardy surge
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ability charge on crit is a huge game changer for knife

verbal thunder
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Revolver is basically a better throwing knife anyhow

coarse birch
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if your really worried about toughness swap scrouge to blood redemption

fleet zealot
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sad amendment to the previous W, while the menu is definitely a trimmed down version of the foodtruck menu and same items/layout

warped dragon
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Knifes are fun but feel kinda pointless unless you're running flamer or something

valid garden
oak geyser
north sedge
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mk12 chaxe doesnt even need that for crushers, barely needs buffs at all

valid garden
fleet zealot
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they were bought out by a local mexican food chain that uses way worse and cheaper ingredients

coarse birch
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for knife id take duellist over purge yeah

ripe quest
valid garden
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ok

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cheers

delicate shadow
valid garden
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I'll give it a go

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thanks yoshi

fleet zealot
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they were out of the shredded chicken so I got "adobo chicken" and it's just grilled chicken chunks

coarse birch
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np

delicate shadow
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is the chicken stored in a pdf?

fleet zealot
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i'm deeply upset at capatalism because that food truck was good asf

verbal thunder
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How is the new revolver on Zealot?

fleet zealot
ripe quest
coarse birch
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im kinda sad crits only affect damage but with current CDR buffing them would be insane

oak geyser
# verbal thunder How is the new revolver on Zealot?

IMHO kind of defeats the point, by the time you're close enough for it to be accurate you'd be pretty close to in-melee anyway. The old revolver is better at cleaning up zealot's biggest deficiency, which is quickly picking off high value targets at a distance

void iron
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Fuck you. Snipers your laspistol

fleet zealot
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but yea, that was my favorite food truck ever and it was one of the few authentic latin american places you can get this far north in montana

verbal thunder
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Understood! How does everyone feel about the Kantrael and the Flamer?

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Tbh I found the flamer rather niche and underwhelming

coarse birch
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kant shotgun is great

sharp zodiac
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Kantreal is great

verbal thunder
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Xantrael was decent

sharp zodiac
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Flamer is boring

oak geyser
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BTW how does the new heavy laspistol play on zealot? Does it have enough oomph to deal with flamers and the like?

fleet zealot
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and now it's just a cheap imitation cause they were bought out and moved into a to-go restaurant

coarse birch
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i like it

ripe quest
coarse birch
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laspistol is nice for movement and quick sniping

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good damage too

verbal thunder
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Imo the flamer should spray sticky flames onto the ground, like in DRG

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And come out faster

warped dragon
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Flamer used to be the best gun in the game

ripe quest
verbal thunder
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Also good to hear a review of the laspistol

north sedge
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flamer is strong but has a niche

delicate shadow
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new laspistol is one of the more fun las weapons rn

spark violet
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worst part about flamer is relying on team to kill snipers most of time

verbal thunder
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Fuck you Throwing knifes your sniper

subtle cedar
north sedge
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very good in scab melee only, i also use it on the hard mode twins

coarse birch
violet hornet
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Flamer niche is netting me top damage on melee only auric maelstrom

ripe quest
delicate shadow
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throwing knives are actually so much fucking fun, I love them

subtle cedar
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I wouldn't use it over old laspistol on zealot

north sedge
coarse birch
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i need to try them now that theyve fixed knives

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grenades are just hard to give up

verbal thunder
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To knives drop when thrown?

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I forget

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Or are they a straight shot

ripe quest
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Knives have always worked

delicate shadow
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you can counter-snipe with them if you get a good enough feel for the drop

coarse birch
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the hitboxes are just less wonky

ripe quest
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Was there a bug or smth?

verbal thunder
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Ah so there is drop

coarse birch
delicate shadow
violet hornet
warped dragon
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New laspistol feels kinda mid unless you build for it on vet imo

spark violet
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its similar to the sniping the sniper with a stun grenade penance

violet hornet
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Flamer has decent damage vs shields and flak

coarse birch
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also do knives still get affected by surgical

delicate shadow
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I don't think so but I don't even try to abuse that so idk

north sedge
coarse birch
delicate shadow
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just hit heads and you'll kill most anything you'd wanna be shooting

verbal thunder
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What do folks usually use the Xantrael for in here?

spark violet
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bulwark hitbox got changed yes

verbal thunder
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the burning special attack

coarse birch
verbal thunder
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Or the raw badonkadonk of the primary fire

coarse birch
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but really its nice for emergency horde clear or just general special killing/sniping

olive raven
coarse birch
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it has way more range than you think

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2 shots snipers at any range

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yeah top left tree is not great

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like the first 2 nodes arent awful

verbal thunder
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Oh, wait really?

north sedge
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it's fine, and basically have to go there if you're doing marty

ripe quest
verbal thunder
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Top left tree is bad?

warped dragon
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No

verbal thunder
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I must be dumb, I usually take it

oak geyser
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IDK Ive really enjoyed the bonus toughness on heavy attack kills

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Its really good for weapons with cleavy heavies

warped dragon
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Toughness on heavy kill is essential on heavy swords and hammer etc

oak geyser
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YOu just sorta Ogryn your toughness up on hordes even under fire

verbal thunder
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And yeah I take it for that toughness too

coarse birch
olive raven
north sedge
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you don't have to use heavy toughness on hammer

spark violet
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to each their own, aslong as you know what weaknesses to take note of you can use many different builds

verbal thunder
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Nice

north sedge
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it's good, don't get me wrong

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but there's options

verbal thunder
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I have a good Xantrael, glad to see people also like it

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I kinda built it on a whim

north sedge
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i use second wind generally

verbal thunder
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'I want to light things on fire with a shotgun' said a sleep deprived Dirien1299 at 2 AM

coarse birch
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second wind + blood redemption is very good

olive raven
ripe quest
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Second Wind/Duellist Thammer has led to some of the most gross Fury 2 shots on Chaos Spawn for me

delicate shadow
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my favourite is when people run stuff that doesn't work (as in is legitimately dysfunctional, not as in "not good") and think its the best thing since sliced bread

verbal thunder
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I will try top right tree sometime

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Sounds fun

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Primary thing is the toughness regen for me

olive raven
verbal thunder
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My ogryn brain activates when I'm playing zealot

olive raven
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Im just saying

verbal thunder
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And he wants to hit everything

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All the time

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Forever

olive raven
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If you are taking BLOCK EFFICIENCY to get revives off

coarse birch
olive raven
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atp its a skill issue

delicate shadow
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I'm at the point where I legit just run tknives all the time

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I'm hooked

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addicted

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can't stop won't stop

hidden nacelle
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same

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i will never go back to nades

ripe quest
coarse birch
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if you run a +3 stam curio especially you can always get a revive off

delicate shadow
olive raven
verbal thunder
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'Fuck you!' said Aquila the Hun on December 19th, 2023. Throwing a knife 300meters into a snipers face.

olive raven
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please god never run stamina

ornate bone
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i did what i could :)
knives only of course, including throwing knives

olive raven
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1x HP 2x Tough, 3x Tough, 3x Wound/2x Wound 1x Tough (Martyr Only)

coarse birch
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i def prefer 2x toughness

olive raven
coarse birch
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but im also big on toughness

olive raven
copper hawk
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Im small on toughness

olive raven
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ty for catching it

delicate shadow
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I run triple toughness on zealot

olive raven
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Same

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Triple tough on top

sharp zodiac
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I run 2

delicate shadow
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triple wounds if I go marty but marty is really only for when I'm baked af

violet hornet
olive raven
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I love regen'ing my full toughness in 5 dodges.

verbal thunder
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I hear so many different things about curio builds on toughness

coarse birch
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i never find health to be an issue

verbal thunder
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Some people run all wounds

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Some run all toughness

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Some run all hp

warped dragon
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I've been rocking martyr hammer as of late

delicate shadow
verbal thunder
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Man its hard af to dial in

warped dragon
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3 wound curios of course

coarse birch
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wounds is not good unless you are running martyrdom

olive raven
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The other two

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Are perfectly fine and good

verbal thunder
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I have been fuckin conned then

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Friend of mine said 'bro run hp curios and stack hp healing talents'

olive raven
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dw happened to me too (looking at the realasianrobot here)

verbal thunder
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thousands of plasteel later.....

olive raven
coarse birch
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that is someone who cant deal with gunners or takes a ton of bleed through damage in melee

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imo

olive raven
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Your HP "regen" is basically just damage reduction

delicate shadow
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ur friend actually just gave you the enron treatment holy moly

verbal thunder
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If I could flashbang that man IRL

olive raven
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Versus say Second Wind

verbal thunder
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I would

ripe quest
olive raven
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giving you

verbal thunder
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Just sayin

violet hornet
olive raven
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15% toughness on dodge

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which is WILD

ember yew
delicate shadow
copper hawk
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Dum dum infernus

violet hornet
fleet zealot
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i can't tell my white fleshtubers apart

copper hawk
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Full auto mod

fleet zealot
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full auto mod is juicy

verbal thunder
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Reason I've been hanging out here so much lately is to dial in my zealot build more, ty all for advice

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I'm gonna flashbang my buddy for convincing me hp curios were BIS on Zealot later

olive raven
delicate shadow
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the incans had very interesting systems and also I find the way indigenous americans (especially south american cultures) made do without horses to be just really neat to learn about

ember yew
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full auto mod is not perfect though, the same Heavy laspistol got much faster rate of fire if you time it manually, instead of mod

verbal thunder
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Tbh everythings made good sense

calm night
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Take from Melk yay or nay?

verbal thunder
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And I usually get a good mixture of opinions

fleet zealot
olive raven
fleet zealot
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like uhh, the always swing first mod

vocal pulsar
fleet zealot
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that was taken down

ember yew
ripe quest
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It should be firing full speed

fleet zealot
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but you can adjust timing on full auto manually

verbal thunder
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Nay

olive raven
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CT too low, FT too low, perks too low, + wrath

fleet zealot
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if it's not firing at hte rate

ripe quest
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It's possible they used the ingame firerate as a reference and it was wrong? idk

olive raven
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@open pollen i truly hope your zealot guide explicitly states "Double Bleed Knife bad"

ripe quest
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But full auto should be max speed

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Hammer doesn't have enough authority to scare bleed knifers.

ember yew
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ima go check it again and mess with settings

north sedge
olive raven
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are just scary
the users

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just refuse to acknowledge facts

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like i pulled up the math showing you kill stuff quicker

native cargo
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If hammer had bleed they would use it

olive raven
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but nooooooo

native cargo
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We the psyop em into think hammers got bleed so they use it and realize the power

north sedge
copper hawk
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About not gettin arthritid

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Arthritis

coarse birch
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double bleed users must not use scoreboard

olive raven
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ah yes you stat pad and thus totally did super well

coarse birch
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theres just no way

olive raven
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id honestly

coarse birch
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not bleed defenders at least

north sedge
olive raven
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If anyone did that to me

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Id straight up tell em to hop in a game with a competent regular

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Using a non-bleed knife

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and watch the differene

ember yew
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and yeah, if i time it manually

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i can get almost mk2 firing speed

ocean nacelle
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omg trying to pug shocking stuff is like pulling teeth. After like 10 games closest I've gotten is 38/40 but people always kill my hordes right as I throw the grenade

olive raven
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or do a premade

coarse birch
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run ahead and just take something like hsword that just shreds hordes

fleet zealot
ocean nacelle
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so u think I should try using an hswortd instead of a flamer for this one?

coarse birch
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flamer works too

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i forgot if it was melee only or not

oak geyser
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How do you damage armor using heavy sword?

ocean nacelle
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Na, just stunned enemies so flamer works. Only upside for me lmao

coarse birch
olive raven
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it wont be super fast but

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anything with armor i think outside scab ragers will be staggered

sharp zodiac
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Can confirm

coarse birch
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Special also has better ADM i think

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id need to test tho

olive raven
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you can absolutely bully crushers

sharp zodiac
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Plus it's a nice way to two shot ragers if you don't have your headtaker stack

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But

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You probably should have it

oak geyser
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Which hsword is the good one?

coarse birch
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all of them, but mk6 or 9

ember yew
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i used this one

olive raven
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6 = Best TTK on elites

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9 = Best Horde clear

mental coral
olive raven
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but the horde clear difference is nominal

mental coral
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This worth?

olive raven
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so personally 6 is best

mental coral
coarse birch
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swap rev to thrust

olive raven
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it can 1 tap dreg ragers

dull jungle
coarse birch
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i always liked 6

buoyant pecan
coarse birch
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9 has a nice moveset for deathblow though

ember yew
mental coral
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shouldve push attacked

buoyant pecan
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he swung out of range, missed, and then dodged late

coarse birch
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does anyone know what causes chastise to get staggered by gunners btw, is it holding shift or just a lmao moment

sharp zodiac
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I like using deathblow on my HS

mental coral
coarse birch
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i cant seem to find a consistent reason for it

sharp zodiac
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Do you have twbs on

ember yew
coarse birch
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single target is very good

oak geyser
coarse birch
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i thought it was just invul for a period tbh but i was wrong it seems

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well that answers my question ty lol

sharp zodiac
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You'd think it would

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I always thought that too

native cargo
mental coral
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Me when I go "huh wdym, the mk 6 does dogshit damage" and then I check and I'm using one with a 49% damage roll lmao

coarse birch
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ew

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why

native cargo
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For bosses doe thunderous be cool af

solid current
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sometimes the zealot might be a little too fast

mental coral
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the one on the left hasn't been rolled yet

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so was wondering

solid current
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esp when your charge doesnt stop on the mauler you wanted and sends you right into Religious Freak Jail

coarse birch
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yeah take thrust on the new one its less horde clear focused and thrust lets it one shot like everything and do massive boss damage

coarse birch
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headtaker/slaught great on old one though

sharp zodiac
solid current
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thats the least of my worries :C

coarse birch
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we got locked out at the end of this part

mental coral
coarse birch
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because they ran in and pressed the button then ran back out

coarse birch
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cursed

solid current
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BEHOLD, THE GROTIEST SWORD OF ALL TIME

native cargo
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Headtaker/thrust or slaughter/headtaker doesn't really matter. I clear hordes and do big damage to enemies with either or

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If you have trouble clearing a horde just chastise once and bam

mental coral
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But yeah I still think even with a good rolled mk 6 I'd rather use the mk 9

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cuz the mk 9 cleaves are completely horizontal

urban scroll
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does carapace help hit a breakpoint for new evis?

coarse birch
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i also like momentum for the attack speed

mental coral
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means I can slice through 8 shotgunners in one swing

coarse birch
olive raven
#

its not great but

north sedge
native cargo
#

Momentum is a must on my new evis and new chaxe. Not the blessing the skill node I mean

olive raven
#

block eff to maniac, wrath to headtaker

Or

swap both blessings to Headtaker/Deathblow

native cargo
#

Shit too slow otherwise

mental coral
north sedge
#

yep

oak geyser
#

Does it just suck against maulers?

coarse birch
#

in what sense

mental coral
native cargo
#

I accidentally chastised through a trapper net. Was fucking amazed

ember yew
#

went to swing my mk9 a bit again, naked drag ragers and mutant are 1 tap

#

flak armor rager tho need 2, even if crit

olive raven
coarse birch
#

yeah hsword base maniac damage is very high

oak geyser
#

ya

olive raven
#

nah

mental coral
#

man if only my new chaxe had t4 flak

olive raven
#

it doesnt suck

minor sage
#

it's fine against maulers

coarse birch
#

its good if you hit the flak body

mental coral
#

;-;

olive raven
#

Just hit the body not the head

coarse birch
#

and the special staggers

minor sage
#

you just h1 ->special

olive raven
#

The head is carapace, body is flak

minor sage
#

and they're perma stunned

olive raven
#

So youll deal more to body

mental coral
#

tho tbh I don't even use chaxe for normal gameplay

olive raven
#

500 versus 360 damage

coarse birch
#

esp since you should run flak on hsword anyway

#

imo at least

urban scroll
coarse birch
#

actually

#

let me test that bloodthirsty one shot

#

might need certain stat reqs

minor sage
#

were testing it last night

#

if you wanna see

coarse birch
#

that works too

minor sage
coarse birch
#

im p sure its possible

#

but i think you need more than just BT

minor sage
#

tldr, you can do it with a perfect weapon + BT + 25% cara

#

but if your weapon isnt perfect

#

then you need elites or dmg stacks or martyr stacks

coarse birch
#

ok so you need 80/80/80

minor sage
#

something like that yeah

urban scroll
#

so carapace isn't gonna help if i don't got 80 on priority stats

coarse birch
#

no it will

urban scroll
#

oh okay

coarse birch
#

we are saying for not needing cara

urban scroll
#

ohhh

minor sage
#

oh you need cara regardless lol

coarse birch
#

oh do you

minor sage
#

but you need some additional help from tree

#

if your weapon isnt juiced

oak geyser
#

Which talents do you just assume whe you say "help from tree"? Because zealot has a lot of melee damage buffs

minor sage
#

4% dmg on hit, martyr dmg stacks or elites perk on weapon

coarse birch
#

oh it does make it so you dont need chastise

#

which is big

minor sage
#

yes you dont need chastise

#

so you can rev - chastise a crusher to start the chain

#

and just kill the rest of the pack

#

with bloodthirsty chaining

coarse birch
#

this will one shot with just bloodthirsty + cara

#

so ig these stats for not needing damage stacks

#

id need to edit stuff for finding the cutoff though

minor sage
#

are you running dmg stacks

coarse birch
#

no

#

actually

#

let me double check

#

ill turn off my skill tree

minor sage
#

your weapon should BARELY miss the onshot breakpoint i think

#

at least that's what contra tested

coarse birch
#

ok yeah flat it will

minor sage
#

yep

#

so you need a slight bit of help from tree and it'll hit it

coarse birch
#

but thats with no damage talents which is slightly unlikely

#

depending on which talents matter

solemn portal
#

whats the rough tree for crit zealot

oak geyser
#

How do you hit a mauler not in the head with h1 on the mk 9?

oak geyser
#

Blazing Piety gives 25% crit, Scourge will give 30%, and if you have Shred on your weapon that can get you up to another 20% for a total of 75% crit chance, though Shred is very optional

#

Do you just look at your feet?

mental coral
#

btw does the mk 9 hsword need maniac

#

or should I swap to unyielding

coarse birch
#

do you only have one perk

solemn portal
#

thanks

mental coral
coarse birch
coarse birch
ember yew
minor sage
#

oh yeah?

coarse birch
#

from my testing

stiff dagger
#

between the old and new laspistol which is better?

minor sage
#

what does your tree look like

coarse birch
#

its empty if your askingme

#

i was just testing if you could do it with no help from the tree

stiff dagger
#

im using the old one and thinking switch to it but dont want to waste golds

vocal pulsar
keen umbra
#

Anyone here rocking a zealot called PelvisPresley?

minor sage
ember yew
minor sage
#

this one

#

the conditionless 5% nodes

#

there's 2 i think

ember yew
#

Something like this allow to facetank gunner patrols

#

and reapers

#

reapers are just free kill

stiff dagger
coarse birch
minor sage
#

from the small nodes

#

not sure if that'll hit the BP

ember yew
#

since no Ghost

coarse birch
#

with just the passives

#

anything else will put it over basically

stiff dagger
#

imma facetank gunners then, tks for advice!

ember yew
#

that's enough to erase from 1 to 3 crushers, if lucky on crits or they are not full HP

#

and if you got 2 dashes, it's x2 then

mossy lodge
#

guys bess build for zealot?

mental coral
#

uhh

#

best build? that would depend on weapon no

ember yew
#

can i insert knife zealot joke here

tall plume
mental coral
#

blades of faith lmao

mossy lodge
#

and weapons?

vocal pulsar
#

yeah throwing knives definitely not considered best for zealot lol

mental coral
#

don't run blades of faith

#

its fun its not the best

hard nexus
#

fury is def good but

torn stream
#

I favor immo nade/bene/Fury/whatever the crit one is, can't remember what it is

tall plume
#

Cadia mk IV assault chainsword any shotgun

vocal pulsar
#

they are not bad, but are decent on a select few builds. even then, stun/fire nades will carry you and your team further

hard nexus
#

if you’re looking for the best you’ll wanna look at chorus

mossy lodge
#

can you send me a screen shot\

#

to i can follow t

tall plume
#

:)

mossy lodge
#

thx

hard nexus
mental coral
#

this will work for most weapons

tall plume
mossy lodge
#

xd

tall plume
#

xd

minor sage
#

looks right to me lol

hard nexus
#

same

tall plume
#

its the third path third path then first path then second

#

for the best build

hard nexus
#

oh ur just trolling nvm

#

darcy 2

tall plume
#

hahahahaha he put it together

mental coral
#

lol darcy?

#

not on the level of darcy just yet

coarse birch
#

hey dis out of curiosity did you guys try backstabbing the crusher instead of headshot

#

with the backstab node

hard nexus
#

were

mental coral
#

I mean it was obvious he was trolling but chain sword with shotgun isn't even that bad

tall plume
#

Dont go looking at my time in server its rood

mossy lodge
#

thx for the help guys

mossy lodge
#

you the best

hard nexus
mental coral
#

yeah

tall plume
#

sheeet

mental coral
#

you could prob ask laz

hard nexus
#

yah they’re all pretty good now

mental coral
#

idk how good agrippina is actually

hard nexus
#

agripinna still is relatively weak

#

but the other 2 are solid

mental coral
#

but lawbringer apparently isn't a meme anymore

tall plume
hard nexus
#

lawbringer can cut out swathes from hordes with its alt fire now

hard nexus
long temple
#

Ay lads what are the niche of crushers and heavy swords? Been levelling zealot and they dont fit my hands too well

mossy lodge
#

guys is shrdder important in the cadia mk iv?

mental coral
#

hsword is meta

#

crusher is fun weapon

onyx solar
#

What should I do with this dagger? Not sure which blessing to swap out for T4 Uncanny, if any

hard nexus
ripe quest
# hard nexus agripinna still is relatively weak

It's good for it's finesse. It doesn't beat out the Lawby for Unyielding damage in that regard, but it has higher totals than both Kant and Lawby for everything else. Obv still needs to hit BPs. This can be exploited better on Vet.

mental coral
#

hsword will kill everything in the game besides crushers/maulers and bosses

hard nexus
#

exhil jumpscare

#

hewwo

mental coral
#

it takes longer to kill reapers as well

hard nexus
mossy lodge
#

ok

ripe quest
hard nexus
#

i wanted to try my agri out at some point anyway

long temple
#

Ahh, so hsword is for "medium" elites, and i just prefer the hammer over the crusher

clear notch
tall plume
#

I remember when crushers were the meta for zealot

hard nexus
#

i don’t

#

oh wait

#

nvm

#

darcy

clear knot
hard nexus
#

beta female jumpscare

long temple
#

That power wham sending a mutant is what sold the hammer for me

clear notch
#

puppy jumpscare

coarse birch
#

if i take the backstab node that is

left iron
#

I have become the coin wizard

#

I upcast Gold for an extra coinflip of damage

tall plume
clear notch
#

scale portation

#

fucking larian studios lmao

hard nexus
#

i hate the discord mobile update so much

#

grah

hard nexus
#

king gizzard and the wizard lizards

clear notch
#

WIZARD LIZARD MENTIONED

hard nexus
#

or is it lizard wizards

clear notch
#

LES FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

hard nexus
#

yeha that

clear notch
native cargo
frosty herald
steel agate
#

That gif reminded me of the charge attacks on the talon lotr games

opaque island
#

black desert i think?

steel agate
#

I think I butchered his name KEKW_ogryn

clear notch
#

dragon's dogma 2

frosty herald
opaque island
clear notch
#

goty 2010

#

dragon's dogma 3 goty 2012

strange kestrel
#

6% is so funny to me

naive linden
#

micropeen ass sword

mental coral
#

game ruined

naive linden
#

what are the ranged options for dealing with carapice armour?

#

not boltgun or revolver

naive linden
#

that shit do like 80 dmg a shot

strange kestrel
#

chastise and it oneshots a crusher

naive linden
#

what

strange kestrel
#

yup

naive linden
#

uhhhh how?

strange kestrel
#

chastise gives rending and guaranteed crit

#

i melt crushers with laspistol

mental coral
strange kestrel
#

or quite literally anything

mental coral
#

otherwise anything works with chastise

fading vale
#

no, chastise does not give ranged crit

ripe quest
naive linden
#

ah okay I like running the AOE armour +

strange kestrel
#

whatever chastise gives that makes me fuck crushers up really bad

ripe quest
#

Just moves the carapace ADM down to Flak

#

and Flak down to Unarmored

naive linden
#

but I guess I'll do chastise if its the only way

#

I hate not being able to deal with crushers it kills runs with bad teams

frosty herald
#

chastice downgrades armor

#

At this point its a secret feature

ripe quest
#

Though I think giving Fury a listed rending buff would be interesting

strange kestrel
#

yeah whatever it does you beat shit up real bad with it

steel agate
ripe quest
#

Fury the ult

#

Not Blazing Piety

steel agate
#

Oh Sitgryn

#

Am big dumb for confusing the 2

frosty herald
#

Tekken 8 and infinite wealth are out on the same day

ripe quest
#

Making Blazing Piety a rending keystone would be funny but it'd either just be still only for some weapons or needlessly op

fading vale
#

I kinda hate that piety is literally just a 0 effort flat crit chance node

naive linden
#

oh wtf

ripe quest
#

yee it'd be cool if it did something

naive linden
#

I had no idea about this chastise rending!

ripe quest
#

other than just crit

frosty herald
#

Blazing piety's only thing is just having cracked crit chance and synergising well with fleshtearer

naive linden
#

I can actually kill crushers with shotgun LETS GOOOOO

frosty herald
naive linden
#

i am addicted to kantrael shotgun

#

what is downgradading

ripe quest
#

Like, Blazing Piety could be the dedicated durability keystone but nope, crits

frosty herald
#

If chastice gave rending it would not be this strong

ripe quest
#

Could even make it utility or proper support

subtle cedar
naive linden
#

where in the skilltree can I read this

subtle cedar
#

For melee it applies until your next hit, for ranged it applies for 3 seconds

#

You can't

naive linden
#

thats such bullshit lol

subtle cedar
#

Cos fatshark

naive linden
#

I would have never known]

#

that is such a wild ability

ripe quest
frosty herald
#

Its a secret feature

ripe quest
#

The Zealot secret menu of fun hidden mechanics

naive linden
#

well no more spiritual fotitude for me I guess

ripe quest
#

Fun Fact: Judgement buffs your dodges

frosty herald
ripe quest
#

And Blazing Piety's left branch gives 2% extra toughness on any kill

subtle cedar
ripe quest
naive linden
#

so does chastise make it so its just you that has that boost to DPS

subtle cedar
#

Yes

naive linden
#

or is it like an AOE when u cast

subtle cedar
#

It's you only

naive linden
#

how long does it last?

fading vale
#

ok stop with the chastise misinformation

golden hearth
#

is it too min max to try and fix this sword

fading vale
#

on ranged weapons it is attack speed buff and armor downgrade from cara to flak and flak to unarmored for 3 seconds

golden hearth
ripe quest
golden hearth
#

i wanna get unarmored to maniac and prob get hs and rampage 4

fading vale
#

on melee it's crit and 25% melee damage and same armor downgrade for one hit, and attack speed buff for the duration

subtle cedar
#

For 1 hit

fading vale
#

and that

naive linden
#

I did not know it affected ranged lol

frosty herald
#

You do know you can cancel out of a chastice charge and still have the buff right

sour stirrup
#

ranged only gets the attack speed buff for 3s?

#

not the duration?

naive linden
#

how do u cancel

golden hearth
#

whats the best brauto mark

fading vale
#

attack speed is duration

naive linden
#

s?

frosty herald
#

You backdodge once when activating it

golden hearth
#

is it agrippina

fading vale
#

armor downgrade is 3s

ripe quest
sour stirrup
#

ty Lazorr

#

and Exhillious

frosty herald
#

You can also backdodge cancel bullrush

golden hearth
#

is best brauto mark agripinna or column

fading vale
#

agri

naive linden
#

bullrush u just press S to cancel no?

#

or is it a faster cancel?

fading vale
#

columnus good too

sour stirrup
subtle cedar
golden hearth
fading vale
#

s cancels the charge

sour stirrup
#

from what I understand

fading vale
#

agri does more damage and has 2 cleave

#

and better penetration

frosty herald
#

Bullrush can get you killed if you rush into a dumb situation

#

Which is why knowing you can cancel it is useful

fading vale
#

and better accuracy and range

subtle cedar
#

To the point of "if they chose to hit f there then they probably are not good enough to realise they -should- cancel

#

Unless it's like, straight up spotting a demonhost at their destination mid-charge

livid gull
#

Gpus out for warranty. Is Darktide playable on an Xbox series S? I know it’s available but coming from running very high settings at 80/90fps to series S got me worried I won’t enjoy it at 30 with a controller vs MnKb.

#

Talking for damnation level stuff

worldly nebula
#

If you already own it, there’s no downside to trying it yourself

livid gull
#

Waste of time downloading it is all. Not a small game

worldly nebula
#

Overnight?

livid gull
#

If I don’t like the base console version that is

#

Might as well overnight I suppose

fleet zealot
#

I heard S has like

#

uhh, mortal kombat on switch issues

livid gull
#

Although I think it actually has MnKb support Xbox

fleet zealot
#

where you'll have locked 30 fps and poor graphics

#

but otherwise runs fine

livid gull
#

Yeah I play a lot of mk11 on my switch I know what you mean

fading vale
#

I can't imagine an S plays darktide well let alone using a controller for darktide

sharp zodiac
#

It's not horrible

worldly nebula
#

30 fps (especially locked) is better than 0 fps

fleet zealot
fading vale
#

30 FPS might as well be 0

fleet zealot
#

just kinda, looks bad

#

and runs at 30

sharp zodiac
#

Reminds me when they released Arkham Knight onto switch, looked exactly like that

#

Not sure why they did but eh

livid gull
#

It’s more that it might not be horrible if your going into console version. But I’ve put like 200 hours in on a 4070 idk what the series S will feel like in comparison Is all and we idk hate to waste the bandwidth if I won’t play it

fleet zealot
#

idk what to say

sharp zodiac
livid gull
#

Just curious seeing if anyone’s kinda gone from pc to console and how they felt

native cargo
#

Had nice little moment last match.
The psyker who thought he was a lost cause cus he got trapper'd into a mixed horde: "Leave me"
Me with the stubber and a dream: pepegun1

livid gull
#

Thanks y’all

native cargo
#

Saved that psyker

#

lmao

sharp zodiac
#

With a really mushed face

sharp zodiac
frosty herald
ornate bone
#

bin or can i keep upgrading?

frosty herald
#

That is NOT the same batsuit

sharp zodiac
#

I promise you it is unfortunately

fleet zealot
native cargo
#

I really really love just holding down m1 and blazing away at the enemy

#

So its neuron activation

sharp zodiac
sharp zodiac
#

I will win one

#

Someday

native cargo
#

The rock is op

#

lovely rock

frosty herald
#

The switch port studio smoked crack

#

Just do batman origins instead of arkham knight

sullen eagle
#

what blessings on knife?

#

i keep hearing conflicting thinfs

sullen eagle
frosty herald
#

Uncanny is mandatory

ornate bone
#

Some homies say haymaker

sullen eagle
#

ive heard haymaker/uncanny, haymaker/lacerate, lacerate/uncanny,

frosty herald
#

Im gonna cry

ornate bone
#

No lacerate

frosty herald
#

Haymaker and lacerate are the worst blessings

left iron
#

Lacerate

frosty herald
#

Get precognition or fleshtearer

sullen eagle
#

what makes lacerate bad?

left iron
#

Whoever the fuck tells you to get lacerate should not be listened to

frosty herald
#

You dont want bodyshots on a weapon designed for weakpoint hits

ornate bone
#

Bleed does bad damage, still doesn't do particularly good damage with rending and the knife is a weapon meant for hitting heads every single time

minor sage
#

man i'm so annoyed

#

that fatshark made maulers and crushers loud as fuck

#

because of reddit complaints

#

i can't hear dogs or trappers

frosty herald
#

Be happy

minor sage
#

over the fucking clanking anymore

frosty herald
#

Crushers used to be dead silent

minor sage
#

i'm ok with them being silent

frosty herald
#

Ive been given backshots and died instantly from them

minor sage
#

cuz they dont do anything

sour path
#

what blessings are best for the combat knife?

#

uncanny strike and lacerate?

cerulean pike
#

I’ve had a crusher triple kill my team before because we had no idea that fucker was behind us

ornate bone
#

Flesh tearer is pretty fine to pair with uncanny strike because you're already expected to be critting with the knife and you don't need to avoid the hea-

#

WHY

buoyant pecan
#

"They don't do anything"

#

The insta kill from behind becuz the crusher was silent

frosty herald
#

Im going to strangle the person that reccomends lacerate to everyone

north sedge
ornate bone
#

Not if I commit that understandable legal crime first

cerulean pike
#

I wasn’t even mad.

That crusher killed three people in one swing. That motherfucker deserves a promotion

frosty herald
#

You dont want to know

#

How many people downed me by dodging a overhead into me

cerulean pike
#

Crusher moved like a real G. In silence. Like lasagna

ornate bone
#

trash?

sharp zodiac
#

Ogryn too rough

#

Tough

cerulean pike
#

Luna??????

sharp zodiac
sharp zodiac
cerulean pike
#

is there something you need to tell the class

sharp zodiac
#

no

#

No there is not

cerulean pike
#

Also: Bird

sharp zodiac
#

Did you name them

cerulean pike
#

No

sharp zodiac
#

Shame

ornate bone
#

fr

cerulean pike
#

Santa Cruz was nice tho. Would go again.

sharp zodiac
#

Seems like a nice place

#

Reminds me when I arrived at a coastal carnival in New Jersey because I got lost horribly

#

At least I think it was

cerulean pike
#

how did you manage that

sharp zodiac
#

Akari, I got lost and ended up in two fucking casinos

#

I get lost frequency

cerulean pike
#

frequency

sharp zodiac
#

I will blow up

cerulean pike
#

do it

sharp zodiac
#

Well now I don't want to

cerulean pike
#

my plan worked

sharp zodiac
#

Fuck

cerulean pike
#

my main goal

#

is to blow up

#

and act like I don’t know nobody

sharp zodiac
#

Grindset tbh

cerulean pike
#

Oh yeah that reminds me ty yama

#

Did you gamble in the casinos

untold carbon
sudden herald
#

zealot is just the best thanks to reddit

native cargo
untold carbon
#

New meme, thoughts?

sour stirrup