#zealot-class

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twilit ledge
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This one is a good outline for build

small kernel
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i will be using momentum sadly as that'll be much more helpful against twins

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havent decided on the ult yet

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also personally would never grab the voice of terra over restoring faith

empty python
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hey guys, just curious, does Duelist work on ranged weapons too?

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it doesn't say specifically for melee but I gotta wonder :\

small kernel
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i opt to go for more defenses but

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lemme test in meat grinder real quick

empty python
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to hit them breakpoints

small kernel
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desperation for what breakpoint exactly?

empty python
twilit ledge
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I did not see the shroud field in that build. The dash is essential

empty python
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and easier Dreg Rager one-shots

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and ofcourse, easier light-attack one-shots for normal Dreg/Scab mobs too xD

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(mostly for my own sanity bc Ironhelm leaves some dreg enemies at like 20-30 hp every light attack and it pisses me off)

small kernel
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but i am using martyrdom

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to oneshot bosses

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ofc the downside is the horde clear

mighty kelp
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How bout this fellas ?

empty python
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if only they make Crucis has the same movement recovery as Ironhelm

small kernel
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its still really good tho

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you can opt in to keeping wrath but cleave blessings on 15 are meh

empty python
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Perfect Strike is really good for Blazing Piety build too, cuz you cleave straight thru crushers and bulwarks

small kernel
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also why i run revolver

empty python
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I can't CAN'T use it when I see a crusher

small kernel
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but outside of that options are pretty limited or not that impactful

steep igloo
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Rashad and antax have good movesets, rashad is really good because of the finesse stat

faint marsh
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i’m getting 0 matchmaking rn

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fucking annoying

small kernel
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i was going to use it for twins anyways so

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will jsut swap crit dmg for flak

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and go with headtaker over shred

steep igloo
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Hadron moment

keen silo
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which other weapon is kinda "snipey" besides zarona stubby?

sharp zodiac
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The kantreal shotgun for some reason can put out nice range

keen silo
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boltgun?

sharp zodiac
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Eh

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Kinda

keen silo
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whata shotgun having range?

drifting wolf
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i'm pretty sure one of the headhunters is semi auto rather than burst fire

keen silo
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do u happen to know which one 👁️

drifting wolf
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MK VII

keen silo
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ty

lavish flame
keen silo
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how? does aim down sights make it a sniper or smth

mighty kelp
lavish flame
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It has a special slug round

keen silo
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yea, but isnt that just more aoe

lavish flame
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The slug does 4 digit damage with high headshot multiplier

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Uh

lavish flame
keen silo
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Ohhh neat

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is scattershot a good blessing?

lavish flame
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Its good on kantrael

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For agripinna u want full bore

keen silo
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and?

lavish flame
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Dealer's choice

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I run manstopper on mine but zealot doesnt have a way to get the crit up to 100%

sharp zodiac
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You could also go for no respite

lavish flame
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So u can go Scattershot, no respite, etc

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No idea why i said FF

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Dont think shotty even gets it lmao

drifting wolf
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shotguns gets fire frenzy

dense field
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For kantrael go no respite. The second blessing can be full bore, deathspitter, fire frenzy

keen silo
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ty

grave topaz
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Go flechette on Kantreal for the memes when fire peppering lol

dense field
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On your second kantrael - sure

grave topaz
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Hehe

small kernel
grave topaz
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I honestly wish for the secondary attacks on shotguns we could load multiple special shells into the chamber

small kernel
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@mighty kelp savage sweep and wrath are w/e on it, bloodletter puts bleed which is rather more useful but not necessary, shred is for crit builds

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and bloodthirsty is for killing 5-10 elites in a row each with single heavy, crushers included

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bloodthirsty looks good on paper but gotta remember if you hit any other enemy outside of that elite you lose the crit

mighty kelp
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which is bloodthirsty?

small kernel
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only for 1 hit

open echo
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are the tac axes any good currently?

placid fiber
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I've heard that the mk 2 is okay

mighty kelp
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Ah

clear notch
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you can do this with bloodthirsty

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i find rev spamming only useful for maulers, ragers, and ogryn units
gunner elites have tiny enough hp and armor that light spamming is enough

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so not really that useful

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you can just pull out your gun

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tho for ragers packs i guess it's preferable to pull out gun

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i've had to cancel a few rev attacks since i was about to eat some overheads

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but overall, if you're stuck with bloodthirsty on a mk15 evis with good stats, bloodthirsty is fine

small kernel
spark raven
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Thats the Eviserator i have

placid fiber
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"didn't know I lived with a sea lion" that's what my wife said cause I have the hiccups lol

faint marsh
clear notch
# mighty kelp How bout this fellas ?

block to flak
wrath to shred if you're going for a crit build
savage sweep if you want better damage distribution to the 4 targets lights are stuck with, might as well kill what you can damage
bloodthirsty if you like rev spamming against maulers, ragers, and ogryns

coarse birch
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Did you mean rampage

strange kestrel
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im lost on what perks to get on my chainaxe

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im kinda shredding thru everything

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cant tell if theres any breakpoints im not hitting

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should i just go flak maniac

coarse birch
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I think cara gets you one shot on crushers without chastise

zinc talon
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SHADDUP YEW LAFFINSTOKS

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I have an assertion

coarse birch
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But id need to double check

tardy bramble
strange kestrel
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true

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im thinking unyielding carapace

zinc talon
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a thunderstrike/skullcrusher flak/carapace crusher is what the zealot needs to be bringing to the twins fight

strange kestrel
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because anything else is a joke

zinc talon
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fuck the new chain weapons

coarse birch
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Ok yeah then id run cara

clear notch
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elite carapace bloodthirsty
you need at least 2 sustained assault stacks if you don't have 80 damage and 80 shredder

zinc talon
strange kestrel
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alr

zinc talon
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this

placid fiber
zinc talon
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is my FuckStick

placid fiber
coarse birch
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Then you should get a new chaxe probably

placid fiber
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Awww

clear notch
placid fiber
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but my meme-chaxe...

placid fiber
zinc talon
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if you unironically bring that and somehow sneak it past the squadmates

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every time you do you'll leave a better fighter with it

coarse birch
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Tbf i dont check loadouts

strange kestrel
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brick of the day

clear notch
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that's mk15 evis

zinc talon
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so, flak/carapace skullcrusher/thunderstrike crusher

clear notch
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chaxe only needs thrust to oneshot crushers KEKW_ogryn

zinc talon
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the bosses seem to react to impact two ways, then I'll get to elites and horde

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while their shield is up, you can't knock em around

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or bleed, or burn em

placid fiber
strange kestrel
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i rock thrust thunderous on my chain axe

zinc talon
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when the shield pops for both, they're stuck on the ground

strange kestrel
zinc talon
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but if you don't damage them to a certain amount

placid fiber
zinc talon
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they'll get up and continue the fight without their shield

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and they are supremely stagger-able in this state

strange kestrel
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yellow

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not salvageable

zinc talon
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rocks, grenades, rumblers, charges

coarse birch
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Yeah thats bricked unless you just need a blessing

strange kestrel
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nah

zinc talon
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prolly slaps and punches too

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so if you let them get back up and then knock them on their ass a s econd time

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you'll be able to do a hell of a lot more damage when you can finally nuke the one you've been working on

dense field
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Counterargument: you can just damage them more

zinc talon
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because then thunderstrike and skullcrusher come into play

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and they're already on their ass staggered

strange kestrel
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my zealot is a mess i have too many blue and green 370-380s i need to upgrade but all my plasteel goes to my veteran

dense field
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And less elites will spawn

zinc talon
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at that point every single thing they're hit with is 80% almost double damage stronger

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and nothing is getting them off the floor again

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if you damage em too much, the shield pops and you have to do that stage again

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I assert you don't have to, if you let them get up and knock em down before nuking

placid fiber
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I like where you are going

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We should let you cook

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bacon

zinc talon
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me-bacon yes

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ofc this is impossible to test outside of a nerdge guysh I have an idea

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letsh all do this

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to test

placid fiber
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Oh God

zinc talon
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in the twins fight

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nah

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just, when it's the last time across the room

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let em get up then floor em

zinc talon
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it might shave half a minute off the fight

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and if it doesn't work you're already thinking that hard about the fight so you're going to cheeze the rest

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thinking, I gave you

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right here, right now

clear notch
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been seeing other zealots bring thammer to the twins fight

zinc talon
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scold them

clear notch
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i'm downright dissapointed that almost every single one of them had two impact blessings

zinc talon
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polite but firm

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and, if I'm completely wrong about the bosses

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and stagger and nuke whatever

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you still have in your hands a thunderstrike skullcrusher flak/carapace crusher

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that can aoe

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what are the elites

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now you can stagger a crusher pack

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and they stay down

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chain weapons for big damage, yeah fun, I really like the new evis in the fight

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axe too

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but that crusher can ragdoll half the horde and 2 of 3 packs

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and andale andale arriba across the room

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(pack a bible thump for added guarantee)

spark raven
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man i wish it was rampage instead of wrath

zinc talon
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and you don't need more damage on the twins fight

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especially at the end

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you need more patience and the same pacing

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you don't power it down you or them, you keep it from getting to that point

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nice and cool

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crusher provides this

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anyway I'm the main character so naturally I'm correct about all of this, you're welcome vote okri class president

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I'm off to be completely wrong about this

small kernel
raven swan
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The only weapon I can actually play on Zaelot

raven swan
zinc talon
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my setup so yall can throw peanuts while I learn the hard way

raven swan
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I literally fail with everything else

small kernel
# zinc talon

what does that have to do with what i just said also i am pretty sure i did a run with you too

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you were on ogryn tho

zinc talon
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I misclicked the reply button

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lol

small kernel
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oh i see

zinc talon
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I was, I was about to say I learned a whole new way to keep aggro under control and let yall work

drifting wolf
zinc talon
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that fight we cheezed, I killed six things. six.

small kernel
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i am okay with people doing it but whenever i see left side start on zealot i feel like i wanna puke

zinc talon
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because I was max mobility grabbing aggro with push taunt or shout and keeping them on me so they weren't on you

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I didn't have time to fight back

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so I thought, huh, and took it back to non bonkers elite horde boss fights in regular missions

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and suddenly I'm tearing around the room, knocking everything on its ass, and my team is three steps behind cleaning up

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I don't have to kill, and they don't have to dodge

open echo
placid fiber
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Oof

raven swan
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I have Overpressure on flamer

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What is the other blessing I need?

placid fiber
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I'd say replace both blessings

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Blaze away

zinc talon
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fan the flames never disappoints

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left click lets you cower everything and I mean everything in front of you as you close to melee

open echo
zinc talon
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and holding the valve open lets you waft across a room and then puff puff puff for guaranteed stagger cuz you just set everything on fire

small kernel
zinc talon
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english

placid fiber
strange kestrel
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LMFAO

zinc talon
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don't sleep on fan the flames

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or quick reload on empty can

small kernel
placid fiber
zinc talon
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you're back on station with a full tank in like, two seconds

raven swan
olive raven
zinc talon
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if things are hairy that's enough to make the flamer falter on keeping back the tide

olive raven
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But rampage also works

placid fiber
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I mean by replacing both blessings you can use rampage or deathblow at any time

zinc talon
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so valve open, burn the whole room

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valve close, puff puff puff

open echo
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probably 3 mil dockets and this is the best iv'e got, this good?

polar nexus
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I just got bloodthirsty on the chaxe. There's a build with that? I only remember that's good for the evis.

small kernel
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i dont remember if you really need bloodthirsty or not

zinc talon
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my brittle/thrust 4 can push then heavy rev and one shot everything

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except bosses

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but it takes 25% of a slugs health, genuinely dead in 4 heavy revs

polar nexus
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I can effectively one tap a crusher with 3 stacks of thrust

zinc talon
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and demonhosts in twenty seconds or so

polar nexus
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Yeah in probably don't need it

zinc talon
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yeah yeah that's the meat grinder but if you hit em twice you've done a third to half the entire boss's health

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headtaker/slaughter 4 feels like it puts in more work swing to swing

small kernel
polar nexus
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I only get thunderous 3:(

zinc talon
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you're a lot more kickass so you don't have to hide to rev and thrust and nuuu I missed

dapper robin
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with the amelia barquette pack cosmetic i really feel like i am a damn psychopath pyroman flamer

zinc talon
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that's what I'm saying, I did, lemme link the videos

dapper robin
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i use the sienna tattoo for the fire flame in the arms

copper hawk
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shlerp

small kernel
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all those heavies that quite some time

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at that point

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just run thammer

dense karma
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i can never get my melee into the burgle back

ember yew
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and it's sad

vestal coyote
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It's such a pain

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Every time I feel like I got the perfect shot lined up

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Bam, tail to the face

small kernel
placid fiber
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with shroudfield you can walk into it's tail

zinc talon
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and thrust is doubly vulnerable in that respect

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because the chaos spawn in particular can bowl you out of the way from behind

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if it's moving, and you're moving faster, charging a heavy reve

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it'll bounce you back and make you wiff

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slug tail too

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thrust brittle's prolly not the combo here I think

small kernel
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just do this

zinc talon
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cuz headtaker slaughter feels a lot more fluid swing to swing

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all up and down the threat scale

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that axe doesn't just fuck it (your very crude bad word here)

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mine would get me in trouble

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very easy combos to swap in and out of

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and very easy awareness of which attack will destroy the thing currently in front of you

royal vortex
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pls do not molest the cspawn

ember yew
zinc talon
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MYT JUS TAYK A SMOL BYTE

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I got lucky with several 375+s the first weekish they were here

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and I had the spare blessings

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so I put two or three together to see just how hard they fucked in mission on high tiers

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a max mobility hard hitting chainaxe is brutal agressive gameplay

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if you get up to full sprint speed, which you do almost immediately

small kernel
zinc talon
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your baking a quick, heavy attack keeps you moving at a great pace

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you cover a ton of ground

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so you really can gauge and gamble on blindly charging into the next elite pack for the fourth time in a row

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and pulling it off

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it's a fun combat style

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cuz it's not a fuckin poop shovel or slick slick slick dagger

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it's a gritty screen shaking cat food sourcing tool

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a real weapon

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like back in the day

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when men were men

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and sheep were nervous

zinc talon
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and yes, before you ask

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that is a pineapple grenade I'm holding onto

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if anyone or anything myself included knocks that part of the weapon against something

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well that's the ball game

strange kestrel
zinc talon
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have you seen the state of hive city sewers

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can't be using a lil feminine hello kitty camp spade

strange kestrel
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I guess 😭

zinc talon
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the shit

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needs shoveling

strange kestrel
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Told bro we got big shovels

wraith helm
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For the Caxe, do people prefer decimation or headtaker?

raven swan
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Am I the only one who stacked all of his curious to 15% Corruption Resistance?

oak ermine
zinc talon
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that's kinda been sent home early by zealot corruption eating

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suddenly resistance doesn't matter as long as you have the aura

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it's a real pressure valve on the twins fight if someone gets caught up in the gas

strange kestrel
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Hs9 is rampage SS yes ?

zinc talon
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then they only need to heal what they lost

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instead of, now you have to work the rest of the fight with 15% health

oak ermine
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Headtaker can also be reliably stacked and maintained - if you whiff a swing with Decimator, the buff is gone.

olive raven
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Decimate and headtaker is more a gameplay preference

zinc talon
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headtaker will always be there for you

oak ermine
zinc talon
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decimator will call you drunk at 3am and give you the ride of your life

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a time or two

oak ermine
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Headtaker works better for HS

wraith helm
raven swan
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Don't know, I never used different tha this

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I die like shit wit heverything else on damnation

zinc talon
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transcend to crusher enjoyment

raven swan
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to what

zinc talon
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to..the crusher..enjoyment

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now I'm all of the rythm of it

raven swan
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Ahh that one

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But what's the difference tou

zinc talon
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between yours and mine?

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actually killing things

raven swan
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Yes, but that have same perks, same stats. What is the actually difference

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Between antax and rashad

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Perks?

zinc talon
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combo chains

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things like push block swing arc

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are the heavies or the lights the overheads

raven swan
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Huh, they don't work the same?

placid fiber
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the heavy and light attacks are the same

oak ermine
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Rashad has quicker attacks notably, as well as an additional modifier for finesse damage

zinc talon
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not when they swing, no

placid fiber
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rashad has finesse

raven swan
placid fiber
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antax has cleave targets

oak ermine
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Antax has a stronger push attack (it has much better cleave damage spread)

placid fiber
zinc talon
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I haven't used one in a while, I think the special for tac axes is the same, that 3 swing quick combo

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even less sure about cockaxescombaxes

raven swan
placid fiber
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you only damage 3 targets tho <.<

zinc talon
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this is where bromentum swoops in

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and does the superhero land on your knee thing

placid fiber
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and breaks both knees

zinc talon
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immediately

oak ermine
zinc talon
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yeah, it'll let you think you're cleaving

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go you!

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such a great job hitting more than one thing

tropic harbor
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Ass damage ignored carapace armor though

zinc talon
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people swear by em, I couldn't ever mesh with em

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so as the resident expert

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never having used them

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you want the blessing that's damage only when you don't swing

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(ridiculous)

oak ermine
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I don’t like using combat axes. They are too straightforward to be enjoyable staregryn

zinc talon
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aaaand.

oak ermine
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Literally just mash M1

zinc talon
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bull butcher just woke up in a cold sweat

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'were they talking about oh thank god'

oak ermine
zinc talon
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new evis is this to a much lesser extent

oak ermine
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dodged a bullet, right there

zinc talon
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I'm still not sure what rev l1 cleave is supposed to accomplish

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even if it sucks, and continues to when explained, there had to be a reason

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and I aint seeing it

flat marsh
zinc talon
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most every axe I've seen is a 1 attack loop overhead for heavy

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and a 3 or 4 loop light

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and you spam light til heavies show up then you heavy til it's just lights then you light til a

final dust
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Cursed question: since the atoma gasmask hood we got reminds me of the heretic sniper is there any way to cobble together a ranged zealot build?
Not asking for a viable build, just ideas.

I figure maybe a crit build trying to use the stealth ability?

oak ermine
zinc talon
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I think, it's there, for bloodletter and bloodthirsty

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that, or damage falloff

oak ermine
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It’s supposed to be a cleaving attack that gets stuck on a fat target mid-horde

zinc talon
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it does seem to do the same damage minimum floor across every target hit

oak ermine
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But it deals funny damage, so there’s no reason to do that

zinc talon
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which is a good deal higher than maybe the third or fourth target hit on just a regular light

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but it's less for the first pair

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and not enough to kill anything outright even with correct stats

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so it's a weakened horde lawnmower

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regular light is faster anyway, so that's for flak and anything that'd catch in the teeth of the weapon

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rev light is for half finished hordes to cleave 7 things at half health

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so, now you have a reason for why you never use it at least

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new evis is also starting to feel a tinge simplistic on what your next attack will be mid fight

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if opportunity for rev, rev heavy or just heavy if you didn't think to rev up

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if single target to dispatch, push stab for the auto rev

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and for everything else, there's mastercardlight swing

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cool, it's opportunistic at least

fading vale
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I feel like this is overcomplicating the new more braindead evis

zinc talon
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just not very nimble

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heh well I want to enjoy it, this is why I don't

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(as much it still kicks ass)

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but the bull butcher escaped its pen and knocked up the OG eviscerator

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and now you have to thinkg about cleaver sex every time you equip your new eviscerator

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you're welcome

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do I keep it green forever and love the potential of it, what it could be

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or do I roll it, brick it, hate it, and sell it

gray cloud
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Brick it and restart the process, nice roll tho

zinc talon
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fine to hell with it let's fuck this pig

zinc talon
zinc talon
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welp I keep bloodletter and unarmored

placid fiber
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or replace both blessings

ripe quest
zinc talon
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huh, I never would have found that myself

zinc talon
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WAIT GUYS IF YOU HAVE THE TIME TO REVVING WILL LET YOU HIT TWO MORE HORDE

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okay so bloodletter, bloodthirsty or rampage, carapace for the twins fight

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swap off for elite or unyielding when not doing that

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then the sword can be a crit chambering heavy rev nuker

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and exactly everything I said not to bring and to bring a crusher instead

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cool.

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you die the hero, or

placid fiber
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you get pissed on by a gorilla

gray cloud
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I love zealot, it's so fun to play

placid fiber
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Yeah it is

trim kindle
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Any gewd?

placid fiber
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I mean it's the new chainsword which I have mixed opinions about

zinc talon
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god I love this headgear

tulip jasper
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tried the Rashad axe. its too slow for my liking, especially now that i am used to the Atrox MKII Tactical Axe DeadFischl

trim kindle
gray cloud
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You pc guys get all the fun stuff

zinc talon
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reject thumbsticks, return to mouse and keyboard

trim kindle
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Im on pc and i dont even know how to get it lolol

zinc talon
tulip jasper
zinc talon
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this website is where to start

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it'll walk you through every step to getting the framework set up in your folders and where to drop the mod folders

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then add names of mods to a .txt you want loaded and toggle the on/off switch and bam

trim kindle
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I know how to mod, I just dunno what those mods are in the slightest ive scoured the website lol

zinc talon
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then you're 3/4 done already

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search the mod categories by unique downloads

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that'll put the most useful right there for you to yay/nae

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and then you can ^see in third person recap just how bullshit your KO was

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or whatever is your thing

gray cloud
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Yeah that was bs

zinc talon
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big QoL ones for me were log into the last character you played automatically, weapon sorting categories and renaming, and hotkey bindings for everything in the mourning star

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also

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you can bind FOR THE EMPEROR to a hotkey

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and shout it whenever you feel it's necessary

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(it always is why aren't you shouting right now)

gilded bough
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What's the difference between the ironhelm and the crucis ? Can't check right now as gameslantern doesn't work on some networks

zinc talon
#

ironhelm cleaves on power up

#

and crucially it remembers which attack in the combo chain you're on

#

and doesn't reset you to L1 or H1

#

you can swing twice poewr up and attack with the third

trim kindle
#

@zinc talonIve got a few QOL ones, im just wondering what mod it is to have custom weapons and such

zinc talon
#

ah

#

weapon customizations mod, from the darktide modders discord

trim kindle
#

Oh so its not on the website

gilded bough
#

Hmm

zinc talon
trim kindle
#

No access 😛

gilded bough
#

So what downsides does the ironhelm have ?

zinc talon
#

it's the only one that isn't, yeah

#

it doesn't hit as hard

#

but it's a lot more fluid and hits several targets on the power attack

#

so it's less single target boss delete

#

and more single target boss delete

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with a new swing color

fading vale
#

it's worse versus maulers and crushers

zinc talon
#

personally I enjoyed it more than the crucis but I don't much use either so

fading vale
#

doesn't quite hit reliable 1 shots on them

zinc talon
#

the crucis is a direct copy/paste from bardin's 2 handed hammer in vt2

fading vale
#

ironhelm is the hammer you use if you don't want to learn how to use a hammer

zinc talon
#

I got my fill there so never saw the appeal

gilded bough
delicate shadow
#

tbf the crucis special attack changes the dynamic entirely

zinc talon
#

it does

#

especially it powers up without any hit on your melee momentum or agility

#

and powers up in sprint

#

it can be very, very nimble

delicate shadow
#

2h hammer in vt2 is purely heavies for crowd control and lights for elites, the thammers be a bit different because of the specials

zinc talon
#

and the attack chains from light to heavy mid-combo blend together well enough

floral creek
#

what's the best build for carrying twins fights?

zinc talon
#

you can pivot as quick as you can chamber the next attack

gilded bough
trim kindle
zinc talon
#

long as you know what you're committing yo

#

to

trim kindle
#

Use stealth to revive

fading vale
#

if they would delete the overhead from ironhelm that would be nice

delicate shadow
ember yew
# trim kindle Any gewd?

you can slap + maniac + flak armor on it, a do shlick shlick with 123131% attack speed bonuses

gilded bough
delicate shadow
floral creek
#

I've been trying to use the holy symbol to keep people alive but I usually end up with 3 veterans and at least one of them is down before we even hit the gas phase

zinc talon
gilded bough
tulip jasper
delicate shadow
#

wish ironhelm was more like saltz' greathammer lol

fading vale
delicate shadow
#

the whole having to block cancel to keep a combo going is something I really don't like when it does appear in a tide game

zinc talon
#

so obviously here is where I shill for shield/shout taunt tank

delicate shadow
#

interupts the flow

ember yew
opaque hinge
#

4xZealot Hi Shock, much fun was had

zinc talon
#

the fight is unique in the sense that it's your job to split sword lady off the rest of the group

royal vortex
fading vale
#

they tried to nerf caxes by changing BM and then just made it stronger 👍

royal vortex
#

not great

zinc talon
#

and then in subsequent stages pick up the crushers and maulers

royal vortex
#

it was the most annoying part when i was new to dt and trying to learn the obscurus

zinc talon
#

so the team can work on them

floral creek
royal vortex
#

because my brain actually couldnt wrap itself around the concept

zinc talon
#

but everything is so in your face you don't have time to fight back

royal vortex
#

that i have to stop attacking

floral creek
zinc talon
#

you zip around the room push taunting til your team kills

royal vortex
#

because u would do i think it was light -> heavy -> block reset and thats just

zinc talon
#

everything

royal vortex
#

not really something weapons should be doing

zinc talon
#

you are kite king extraordinaire

#

it's manic but it's a blast

floral creek
fading vale
#

crusher looks terrible but it's a great weapon, pretty dynamic and wants you to actually learn a moveset

zinc talon
#

shield and grenade gauntlet

royal vortex
#

thats my favorite part of the crusher because if u do a fuck up in a combo

zinc talon
#

feel no pain/shout taunt/push taunt

#

nuke

royal vortex
#

u can flow back to w/e u actually gotta do super fast

zinc talon
#

the veteran can refill your grenade 3 times? I think

royal vortex
#

or if u get big brained enough can cope and say it was intentional

zinc talon
#

that's 3 erasures for gathered up elites

#

you push taunt sword lady and keep her attention while the team pops the shields then nukes dudebro

#

and when maulers/heavies show up, you taunt them and skedaddle

tulip jasper
#

i just wanna spam and see heretics get yeeted Hypers lightattack spam with my Atrox MKII Tactical Axe is funny for that

zinc talon
#

grenade gauntlet is for reaching across the room to kill pounced dogs or mutants

#

or ragdoll the stuff around guy you're sprinting to to revie

fading vale
#

gauntlet is the coolest ogryn ranged by far

zinc talon
#

the last hard mode I complete

#

I killed six enemies

coarse birch
gilded bough
#

I wanna make a build that uses all the vet's grenade talents and a shotgun and just pretend to be a ww1 trench fighter whose primary weapon is grenades

keen silo
#

why is martyrdom build good?
you basically have to be on death's edge to make the most of it right?

royal vortex
#

more effort for less reward

ember yew
zinc talon
fading vale
zinc talon
#

makes you tankier than not being at death's door

fading vale
#

Marty is the easiest build

gilded bough
zinc talon
#

people of a certain skill threshold just shine with it

floral creek
zinc talon
#

but it incentivizes you to be a liability for your team, to be a strength for you rteam

ember yew
fading vale
#

there's 0 reason to intentionally go low HP on marty unless you just want to flex

royal vortex
#

if u run BFTE and whatnot u can be more tanky than anything the other 2 keystones provide

floral creek
keen silo
#

but dont u only have 5 wounds with a 3 woundd curio?

tulip jasper
#

you just play, and happen to get stronger as you get damaged

royal vortex
#

particularly if u run the 2 wounds node + 3 hp curios with BFTE

zinc talon
#

I hope zealots that turn their noses up at med stations to keep their martyrdom stub their toe

#

dude, just heal then get hit again

royal vortex
#

since u get the DR + ogryn-sized hp

zinc talon
#

for my blood pressure

zinc talon
#

THERE IS STILL MOUTAIN DEW IN THIS VENDING MACHINE

royal vortex
#

and the math on 3 marty stacks for melee damage is not bad at all

zinc talon
#

I WILL PULL YOUR LEGS OUT OF SOCKET AND DRAG YOU

fading vale
#

bleed for the emperor and other DR/healing talents make it quite impossible to die outside of being trapped

#

with marty

tulip jasper
zinc talon
#

yep, people I run with finish out the job top damage and no revives, and only damage taken was what took to get to their preferred %

#

but

royal vortex
#

i skip medicaes on zealot regardless of keystone because the only thing killing me is disablers and 1 overhead triggers until death on all my setups anyways

zinc talon
#

everyone else is stupid

ember yew
zinc talon
#

and maryrdom get sthem killed

delicate shadow
dark zealot
delicate shadow
#

this is why crusher is simply the best weapon

zinc talon
#

I will never not take both 5% movespeed pips

delicate shadow
#

you literally never have to stop and everything is a combo with a purpose

tulip jasper
#

note i run momentum comfyBlin

delicate shadow
#

feelsgoodman

zinc talon
#

or less

dark zealot
royal vortex
delicate shadow
#

and it's not busted broken like rashad and shit like that lol

royal vortex
#

(because of the crusher)

zinc talon
#

cant cut what you just crushed

#

don't worry it's not there anymore all the same

floral creek
delicate shadow
royal vortex
#

the like

fading vale
#

everything

royal vortex
#

part where it exists

zinc talon
#

well just like

delicate shadow
#

the only thing about it that's not overpowered is the special attack lmao and you just ignore that exists

floral creek
#

I only really play darktide and dont talk about it online much so this is all news to me

royal vortex
#

its one of the strongest generalist weapons in the game

zinc talon
#

welcome to the shitshow fren

#

strap in and get ready to find out that thing you bring

#

is simply incorrect

coarse birch
#

Yeah it just does everything

royal vortex
fading vale
#

the fact you just spam lights and delete literally everything for free with 0 thought faster than most other weapons and just heavy for crushers or unyielding

royal vortex
# floral creek why?

super good single target damage, has a blessing that gives it insane horde clear

#

extremely simple and easy-to-learn moveset

zinc talon
#

new chainaxe does this very well with HT/SL4

#

light bonks will oneshot one to two smols in horde situations

royal vortex
#

good stagger tools on the push attack (and the special i guess, heavies also stagger crushers for some reason)

zinc talon
#

heavy rev about half the specials

delicate shadow
#

well the thing is Rashad is the correct thing to bring

the problem is it's correct for literally everything, you actually cannot go wrong unless you do something intentionally dumb, all you gotta is spam lights into everything and then heavy attack crushers and bosses

coarse birch
#

Good attack speed too

zinc talon
#

sorry, heavy auto rev takes half the specials

#

heavy rev takes everything

#

it's a great how much time do I have weapon

royal vortex
#

basically its very safe, simple moveset, high damage, very good dodge stats, etc

floral creek
#

only the rashad model?

coarse birch
#

Yeah 5 dodges too

zinc talon
#

the problem with combat and tactical axes

royal vortex
#

there's no downside

#

the antax is like a slightly worse rashad

zinc talon
#

is they're sorely lacking in the chainsaw department

fading vale
#

antax works too but Rashad is simply better

coarse birch
#

Antax too but rashaad has finesse

delicate shadow
#

antax is like a more somewhat balanced rashad lol

frank night
#

used to be antax but then they fixed the rashad bug with never hitting weakspots

delicate shadow
#

achlys has a moveset that makes me itch so we'll ignore that one

frank night
#

then they did and rashad was the fully package

royal vortex
#

mittins you KNOW it could hit weakspots

#

you just

#

had to be crab

#

and be willing to fucking

#

do the most god-awful hitbox manipulations

delicate shadow
#

you had to do some absurd camera movement

royal vortex
#

it was so bad lmfao

zinc talon
#

does anyone know if this is additive like all your curio toughness regen added together

fading vale
#

the Achlys horizontal heavy is just a worse Rashad light which is amazing

frank night
#

i am not willing to get arthiritis before 50 from doing houdini twists to trick an axe into hitting a head

tulip jasper
#

i find with the taxe i just spam weakspots with light attacks

zinc talon
#

or if it multiplies all that and gives you a lot more actual regen

royal vortex
#

i want to like the achlys

#

in a "so bad it's good" kinda way but its just like

#

they designed a moveset that was completely pointless

timber bramble
#

but rashad doesnt have a chain on it and loses out on the cool factor

fading vale
#

also btw if you didn't know never ever ever use caxe heavies on maniac

timber bramble
#

most important nerf

royal vortex
#

in most cases

frank night
#

dogs cant look up

royal vortex
#

like comically far above the head

#

are u a dog

#

is that what ur communicating rn

oak ermine
frank night
#

no i am visibly a business attire pallas' cat

zinc talon
#

nice, I'll try it out then

frank night
#

pfp representative

zinc talon
#

but my auto rev heavies take out flamers toxes bombers and trappers

fading vale
#

don't bring coherency regen on zealot.....

royal vortex
#

is the christmas hat business attire

frank night
#

tes

#

yes

royal vortex
#

the elder scrolls

zinc talon
#

reasonably certain heavy auto revs take out mutants

#

or almost

frank night
#

I was on an all hands call with the c suite recently

zinc talon
#

why wouldn't I

placid fiber
frank night
#

and the CEO was dressed as an elf

#

so dont tell me the santa hat is unprofessional

royal vortex
#

i didnt i asked a question

#

i was attempting to learn about the culture of the 5th circle of hell

frank night
#

it was accusatory

royal vortex
#

thank you very much

dark zealot
floral creek
oak ermine
#

Right. Why wouldn’t you bring Toughness regen on Zealot?

ember yew
frank night
#

ur on thin ice

my pedigree chum

oak ermine
#

I’m just curious more than anything, so please don’t write an essay about it

zinc talon
fading vale
royal vortex
#

im actually on solid ground mittins but that was a good guess

#

it snowed here recently

zinc talon
frank night
#

did it

royal vortex
#

it did

frank night
#

how much

ember yew
zinc talon
#

you, vs the guy she

royal vortex
#

enough that it covered the ground

sharp zodiac
#

It bounces off wood

royal vortex
#

not much more than that

frank night
#

supervillain pause

sharp zodiac
#

Monologue

dark zealot
royal vortex
#

i am not cool enough to be a supervillain

#

u and i both know this

frank night
#

dont sell urself short

zinc talon
#

sell yourself tall

#

you get a better rate

timber bramble
#

you can be one anyways and practice how to be cool on the job

sharp zodiac
#

Well how tall are they

frank night
#

true if penguin can be a supervillain

#

technically

sharp zodiac
#

I would eat a penguin for 2 nickels

royal vortex
zinc talon
#

either way you're still, yknow

#

sittin funny for a week

#

so get paid what you deserve

dark zealot
#

so nothin'?

whole vapor
#

Is auric heresy a big step up from high intensity damnation?

zinc talon
#

totally gonna movie voice these poor sods I match with on the load in to the twins fight

#

fate brought them together

#

until tragedy tore them apart

#

now, four friends

#

four thousand heretics

#

for. the. emperorrrr

oak ermine
#

Auric Heresy may only be tougher if it is with Shock Troop Gauntlet

zinc talon
#

on paper it's supposed to be higher spawn caps and shorter horde and special timers

#

but director gonna director

whole vapor
#

Aye

zinc talon
#

I had a regular auric just specials/weak bosses that took us ten deaths and forty minutes

#

and I needed a shower afterwards

#

I needed a shower before, but I needed one after too

oak ermine
#

Unless you were so sweaty you needed a double shower

zinc talon
#

more of a backyard and a hose situation

frozen glen
#

rashad

zinc talon
#

lava soap and a brillo pad

frozen glen
#

combat axe

royal vortex
frozen glen
#

!

zinc talon
#

engine degreaser

frozen glen
#

bitch

royal vortex
#

did i not

frozen glen
#

no

royal vortex
#

i dont believe u

frozen glen
#

u should

royal vortex
#

i won't be lied to

frozen glen
#

i am not lying

frank night
#

redverse

zinc talon
frozen glen
#

josho will make fun of me for my habits and then casually adopt it as his own

frank night
#

put urself into

#

reverse

#

ho ho

zinc talon
#

oh oh?

oak ermine
# zinc talon

The map is so foggy the “mostly ranged” enemies cannot even shoot at you from reasonable distances KEKW_ogryn

royal vortex
#

screenshot the message

zinc talon
#

good, because I can't see shit eithewr

#

hold up shield wait for charge

#

very world war 1 mud and mustard gas

#

I should wear a gas mask

oak ermine
#

The only thing remotely difficult about this modifier is some events

#

Because bruisers get replaced by stalkers

#

And some other unit is replaced by Shotgunners

frozen glen
#

wdym screenshot the message

#

it wont play the ping sound

timber bramble
#

I’m stupid so when its foggy I get lost

royal vortex
#

the message is highlighted when it pings u

#

what the fuck do u

#

how

prisma sigil
oak ermine
buoyant pecan
#

Time to abuse

prisma sigil
#

See those are the maelstroms I never bother playing

buoyant pecan
#

Everyone ping this man

prisma sigil
#

It's like 2 or 3k more than a normal auric damn

timber bramble
#

but lol yeah I know the maps but sometimes lose my orientation anyways

ripe quest
oak ermine
#

You can always refer to where the other smurfs are

zinc talon
#

there

frank night
zinc talon
#

chemical warfare is no longer a concern

viral hare
buoyant pecan
oak ermine
zinc talon
#

I've been angry ever sincve they let us go shirtless and took it away

#

never forget what they took from us

solar gorge
#

the price to pay for patch 13

zinc talon
#

this chestpiece meets halfway and I'm willing to negotiate

viral hare
#

“I wish they added shirtless back into the game”

the monkey paw curls

#

$20 in the next shop

ember yew
viral hare
#

LOL

zinc talon
#

I just adore my tiny little spiked neck goiter armor

#

PERTECS ME GLANDS

#

sir those are not norm-GOTTA PERTEC YER GLANS

#

o-ok

viral hare
#

a good ogryn protecs ‘is glans

zinc talon
#

nobody will ever name this weapon better than the french

buoyant pecan
#

Lame De Combat

#

So very true

viral hare
#

French people are funny, I wish they were real

buoyant pecan
#

Next you'll say Ohio is real

dark zealot
viral hare
#

Unfortunate

royal sierra
dark zealot
#

shred is alright for this?

oak ermine
#

… which can be said about most of the blessings for Eviscerator, because they all are fairly mediocre

sharp zodiac
zinc talon
sharp zodiac
#

I want Tess to tickle me too

dark zealot
#

just seen this in the shop

sharp zodiac
#

Pretty good

ripe quest
dark zealot
#

clearly this is the superior evis

sharp zodiac
#

The meta choice

heavy arch
#

and congrats you have a horde clearing beast, crusher 1 shot any elite or special 1 shot

#

S+ god tier wep

ripe quest
heavy arch
#

For evis15 you do

ripe quest
#

It doesn't calc well, it's not that much damage.

heavy arch
#

what if the goal isn’t to pump out significantly more damage but to upkeep bloodthirsty as easily as possible and meet crusher BP?

#

because if everything already dies in 1 hit I don’t need a +25% dmg perk

delicate shadow
#

what even is the crusher bp? all I know is you need a rev crit, unsure on what damage/power investments you need in specific

misty raven
# dark zealot shred is alright for this?

I have it on mine. It's fine. I don't have a lot of time with evis but it allows me to give up blazing piety if I want to be wound zealot and still get decent crits for cdr

heavy arch
#

All I know is I couldn’t 1shot a crusher without using F without having +cara and +critdmg

delicate shadow
#

is that on non-crit revs?

open echo
#

this fine? (3 mil dockets and this is the best iv'e got lmao)

heavy arch
#

crit rev

delicate shadow
#

because pretty sure people have hit the BP without needing crit dmg but it's probs due to nodes or rolls

heavy arch
#

fair

misty raven
ripe quest
heavy arch
#

I could but the emperor gave me these rolls to work with

#

just saying there’s a use case for it with evis 15

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

obtuse tangle
#

i wish emperor would just bless me with headtaker 4

ripe quest
#

Where?

#

I don't see a spot where +weakspot or +crit is better than alternative perks.

heavy arch
#

Okay then

opaque coyote
#

what r good blessings/perks for the new chaxe?

#

headtaker/slaught and flak/carapace?

obtuse tangle
#

i prefer thrust and either headtaker/slaughterer

#

perks wise you can go flaniac/carapace i think though i would personally want to test the breakpoints first

#

unyielding isnt bad too

#

i think you might be able to one shot crushers or come close to one shotting them with full thrust reved heavy att with the right build

karmic sparrow
#

Brace revolver is shit?

zinc talon
#

and awesome

#

a superposition

#

depending on whether or not you like it

#

the deadliest weapon you can bring to a mission

#

is you

#

you're better than you think you are shut up and try guns

oak ermine
#

Good attitude indeed

#

There’s no need to play the meta

#

When you can play Rashads with 0 Penetration

dark zealot
untold carbon
#

@ripe quest got my hands on a good mk4 chainaxe, goddamn it feels so much better than I remember

distant maple
#

Because it got BUFFED!!!

untold carbon
#

I know, but man the glow up is unreal

#

After trying the new chainaxe, loving it and beating the twins on hard with it, I thought I’d never give the mk4 another chance, but I’m glad I did

distant maple
#

The light chain attack is nice stuff to fight against maulers

#

And ragers

strange kestrel
#

Everything

untold carbon
#

Yeah it absolutely shreds all elites

#

I like being able to one shot crushers without chastise

grave topaz
#

blazing piety with kantreal fire bullets and bleed crit is pretty fucking funny

strange kestrel
#

Yep

#

Melts everything

untold carbon
#

But I also really like the mk4’s lights staggering ragers and such

clear knot
#

which, everything is mostly worse than old revolver

#

bcuz old revolver is busted af rn

untold carbon
#

But even then it’s still fun as fuck

clear knot
#

yeah!

#

its a fungrade! like dough says

untold carbon
#

I like being a cowboy

clear knot
#

its really fun i really like it. and i enjoy using it on my zel at that

untold carbon
#

I’ve reflex shot dogs out of the air with the fan too many times to count

#

But it still feels amazing every time

strange kestrel
#

Tbf every gun is worse than agri revolver

clear knot
#

that was my point

strange kestrel
#

And even then its not a bad weapon at all

#

Oh

strange kestrel
#

I didnt scroll up

#

I agree

ripe quest
uncut scaffold
#

using the hs overhead on a jumping dog makes me feel like the main character

untold carbon
uncut scaffold
#

shield oggy best oggy

ripe quest
trail grove
#

Change?

strange kestrel
#

Deadly accurate

#

Yes

ripe quest
strange kestrel
#

Thats bad

#

Well not bad but subpar

uncut scaffold
#

I'm still trying to figure out if lasgun is worth it

sharp zodiac
#

Kinda

uncut scaffold
#

I keep finding myself being put as the only guy with any kind of range, even though my traits are set up for melee

strange kestrel
#

It is on veteran

uncut scaffold
#

on god im so tired of revolver vets leaving all the gunners and shooters to everyone else

#

you're the shooty class, shoot the shooty enemies

#

simple as