zealot-class

[rose crescent]

Mhm

[native cargo]

plasu lawyer idk

fuck

that was a brain fart

plus***

[torn stream]

Shit how was I supposed to learn this? I've gotta change my whole MO to keep up with the times as a modern gay

[fleet zealot]

I can understand if he doesn't come back cause he is a genuinely chill dude

https://tenor.com/view/two-men-kissing-gif-24517185

[native cargo]

Wait who is a chill dude o.o?

[torn stream]

Jocat

[rose crescent]

Honestly that part of the community is just crazy rn

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/lasers-lizard-cyclops-laser-gif-5509522

[fleet zealot]

jocat been getting doxxed for about 2 years now and is quitting content creation

[native cargo]

Thats fucked

[torn stream]

He got doxxed because incels were like "nooooo genuinely liking women is cringe 😭"

[native cargo]

Actually disgusting

[fleet zealot]

jocat is like, the mirror opposite of all these sigma male people and they hated him for it

[torn stream]

Which part?

[fleet zealot]

cause he just actually respects women and is engaged

[native cargo]

I can't wait until 2077 happens and they get fucked (plus us) by corporations

[lilac bone]

That hot man on man chemistry -- I appreciate that you've come around to my point.

[native cargo]

At least they will get what is coming to them

[torn stream]

Oh my god this is how I found out he's engaged too? Man, this guy's got a good life, barring the whole doxxing thing

[fleet zealot]

honestly it was like, 10% terminally online wokescolds, mostly the weird terf feminists

[torn stream]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-cat-stoned-stoned-cat-gif-25615600

[fleet zealot]

and like 90% right wing trolls/edgelords

[thorn mango]

What perks are recommended for the Zarona revolver?

[fleet zealot]

huh

[lusty orbit]

skrillex

[fleet zealot]

you know what chat you are in right?

[torn stream]

We're all a lil gay for the God-Emperor

Even the women

[fleet zealot]

you really got to work on like

not being you, no offense

first the racial slurs and now the "vague anti lgbt posting"

i'm not even mad

i'm just weirded out

[torn stream]

Yeah, like this is Zealot chat, one of the gayest places on the internet

[hardy surge]

I think flakcara

[fleet zealot]

i don't think you or anyone decides what regular lgbt is but I think we should drop this topic

i can hear aquila's moderator pain

[lusty orbit]

i decide this chat now.

[torn stream]

anyway, anyone else catch that ESL Stormgate showmatch the other day?

[lusty orbit]

sire melk appreciation club. activate.

[native cargo]

What does this mean lmao

[hardy surge]

Chaxe 4, are you by any chance a VGGer?

[delicate shadow]

I'm asking you sincerely to please stop basing your perspective on the world around social media insanity that is not even vaguely representative of the real world

[lusty orbit]

fuck no he crashed my game again.

[torn stream]

based Sire Melk Male Behavior (TM) on his part tbh

[lusty orbit]

i’m just being nice to he gives me a good list of stealable blessings soon™️

[fleet zealot]

I've been doing some digging and the amount of outrage/insane culture moments that are just, fake are insane

like discord screenshots or videos

[native cargo]

Ban the fetishists in chat

We must have a cleansing

[fleet zealot]

but people buy into them

[delicate shadow]

75% of it is fake and that's taking a conervative estimate

[torn stream]

anyway I've come to seek forgiveness and repent for my impure desires to play as the Infernal Host in Stormgate

[delicate shadow]

it's all rage bait for clicks

[native cargo]

Sure ig go ahead

[lusty orbit]

caught an opp tryna sneak-diss on the vox channel, turned his hive-city into cadia. i’m nice with it.

[drowsy steppe]

What in the world

[fleet zealot]

something something, anything you say can and will be used against you something something

[fleet zealot]

is this

[lusty orbit]

hi that’s me btw👉👈🥺

[fleet zealot]

no it's not the purple name

https://tenor.com/view/ena-joel-g-ena-joel-g-joel-g-ena-gif-20510015

[sour stirrup]

groaners > maniac
rampage > headtaker
good enough? or need deathblow

[fleet zealot]

no

wrath to headtaker

deathblow isn't needed

it's just a great option that mk9 can go

[sour stirrup]

rampage 1

lol

[fleet zealot]

rampage one is fine

they narrowed the gap massively

wrath is literally useless

[sour stirrup]

hmmm ok I'll do that then

[fleet zealot]

12% damage

that's how much you are missing

[sour stirrup]

glad to know it didnt brick

[fleet zealot]

and that is more than worth getting headtaker on it for 30% damage

also, i'm not kidding, cleave blessings do nothing for heavyswords their base cleave is too high

[sour stirrup]

oh fr?

TIL

[fleet zealot]

yee

you want cleave on like, old evi, dclaws, cause they will get stuck

[sour stirrup]

am more excited to try this now

[fleet zealot]

heavy sword only really get stuck on carapace/unyielding

[sour stirrup]

groaner/poxwalker > maniac is the way for the other refine?

[fleet zealot]

no do the maniac change

you were right on that one

just keep rampage one for now unitl you can find a better sword

[sour stirrup]

yea thats what I mean

was just checking

[slate void]

What are the advantages of the Agrip Revolver over the Zarona revolver

[sharp zodiac]

Nothing

But in all seriousness

[fading vale]

uh it's funny and reloads faster but nothing else

[slate void]

I see that Agrip has "Brace" instead of "ADS"

[sharp zodiac]

Reload and ig cool factor if you like cowboy stuff

[slate void]

The Agrip Revolver

[sour stirrup]

brace = fan the hammer

cool

[sharp zodiac]

Well OFC it's called agrip revolver it needs to have a grip

[slate void]

Oh, that's neat

Cowboy loaded

[fading vale]

it does everything worse than old revolver but it has a cool factor

[lusty orbit]

it’s five shots because the 41st millenium is a dark and unforgiving universe

[sharp zodiac]

Not a fan of hooligans name

[fleet zealot]

some poor mechanicus loser in 31k found a revolver schematic but it was for a 5 shot

and now we suffer

[lusty orbit]

but i am. that dude’s epic (like the games launcher). i’m that dude btw

[sharp zodiac]

I just got fucking flashbanged by your bio I'm coming to your house

[untold carbon]

It was the schematic for the smith and Wesson .500 magnum

[distant maple]

Fellow guardians, which is the best heavy sword?

[thorn mango]

Thank you.

[delicate shadow]

the mk6 and mk9, I prefer the 6 myself

[sharp zodiac]

The one with the x innit

[distant maple]

Let me read my Roman numerals rq

[pearl snow]

Whats the build here

[lusty orbit]

i like it when the sword slices things

[distant maple]

Alr gotcha

Needing to use other weapons than the new chaxe I've been using

[solemn portal]

what are the good revolver blessings

[distant maple]

Actually let's me get my stacks up

For that lotsa damage

[delicate shadow]

just gunning it down right side of the tree but also grabbing perilous combustion and a couple of the other soulblaze nodes

Duelling sword mk4 with uncanny and precog

I have smite but I literally don't use my blitz ever on that build

the staff is a voidstrike with surge and warp flurry

[vivid condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493928725801467906/1186523979264040960/image.png?ex=65938f91&is=65811a91&hm=0dcbae7944d1254433763431d619f470ceeabe4ba57304eb2e934395c935d390&
my friend just posted this (leveled up from a gray)

[distant maple]

Oh my god

2 t4s

1% damage

[sharp zodiac]

Handcannon and surgical

[sharp zodiac]

New solo auric maelstrom weapon coming up

[dense field]

Handcannon and surgical for zarona/crucian for the new one

[sharp zodiac]

Handcannon is basically a necessity

[drifting wolf]

is there are preference for fire frenzy or deathspitter on the infantry autoguns?

are they interchangeable or is one better than the other?

[steep hound]

pretty interchangable imo but I like fire frenzy better overall

[solemn portal]

thanks

[steep hound]

I finally have 10/10 T4 blessings on the Thunder Hammer 🥹

I chased Thrust and Slaughterer for months

[vestal geode]

What's better for the new eviscerator? Carapace armor or flak?

[dense field]

Flak

[olive raven]

tbh i like Dumdum/Deathspitter as it makes the IAG more versatile but yea

personal preferences atp

[native cargo]

testes

[distant maple]

Best blessings for the heavy swords?

[olive raven]

Deathblow/Headtaker/Rampage

My preference is Deathblow/Headtaker and HS6

As it has best Elite TTK

[dense field]

Deathblow/Rampage is secondary

HT is a must

[distant maple]

How will it fare with the mk9?

[fading vale]

hswords do primary damage to 2 enemies by default

[distant maple]

Well how do you think it'll fair with the mk9

[fading vale]

on heavies

[dense field]

Very good

[distant maple]

Trynna get a goood horde clearer but at the same time a good elite killer from the overhead

Alr

[fading vale]

the horizontals and diagonals can 1 shot all elites except ogryns and maulers

[dense field]

It's not like ht+rampage won't kill elites

It will

[olive raven]

Good

[clear notch]

perfect

[olive raven]

Use the mk6 with deathblow/headtaker

It’s slightly slower than mk9’s horde clear

But it one shots dreg ragers 💀💀💀

[distant maple]

Alr alr

[olive raven]

MK 9 works damn good as well tho

[distant maple]

But the real question is, which has a faster light swings

[olive raven]

Neither

I think

[distant maple]

Ignoring finesse

[dense field]

Rampage/HT also oneshots dreg ragers in the mixed horde

[distant maple]

Alr

[olive raven]

Heavy swords are already pretty quick

[dense field]

So it's more of a preference

[olive raven]

Yea I take deathblow just for that little extra nudge

[distant maple]

Well considering I coouuuld just use the special to stagger an elite im gonna go for the mk9

Cuz of the heavies

[olive raven]

I mean

It’ll just fuckin kill it 💀

[distant maple]

Yes yes auugh

[dense field]

Just keep swinging

[olive raven]

Heavy swords are genuinely OP

can’t lose if you use it

[distant maple]

Besides I need a weapon like the new chaxe to let me get my 2 stacks up (the kill stacks and the 3 enemies in one hit stacks)

[olive raven]

Fuckin… huh?

[distant maple]

Got a preetty op zealot build going on

[clear notch]

time to keep trying to do twins hard mode with pugs

https://tenor.com/view/skull-skull-emoji-skeleton-skull-reaction-skeleton-reaction-gif-25051682

[distant maple]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-there-friends-homies-riding-cruising-gif-13823374

[clear notch]

perchance

[distant maple]

Having so much fun with the graia infantry gun

[dense field]

graia IAG is fun

[distant maple]

It feels more satisfying with a sight attached to it with the help of the weapon customization mod

[drowsy steppe]

Fuck you

[native cargo]

WHEN1?!?!!?!?!

[distant maple]

Funnily enough I got a 380 rating of it yesterda-

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975103312477167627/1182076722804445264/96C63B95-2A62-4F17-9819-C090B9772059.gif?ex=658c9c3c&is=657a273c&hm=819dba6e32f38fe17d495a5f36ad32caa00d6adf8584ff24aa285154367ec69f&

[clear notch]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-cooler-dbz-gif-25055548

[distant maple]

No!!

Not my $399.99 black jeans!!!

[clear notch]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-your-tone-boy-watch-your-tone-kratoz-god-of-war-gif-18420543

[sharp zodiac]

:[

[clear notch]

your parents are ass

disown them

what?

[sharp zodiac]

Better yet

Replace their genes

And steal their jeans

[clear notch]

i need you to elaborate

[distant maple]

How to put a zealot in distress:
Step 1- show them a pysker using their warp abilities to levitate a pizza into their mouth
Step 2-

[stiff mirage]

will hadron ever give me a good weapon

[clear notch]

oh

haha

well see the punchline is sex

the punchline of the set up is

[distant maple]

It's funny because the joke is about sex

[dense field]

It has a minor issue though

[sharp zodiac]

PIZZA

Those freaks do not deserve a SLICE of the god emperor's Italian meat and cheese

[dense field]

that should probably get reported

[distant maple]

PREACH GUARDIAN

[dense field]

no

(it's locked)

[clear notch]

god damn it

these pugs always dying to getting mobbed by ragers

[sterile schooner]

How does the graia compare to the columnus and agri iags? Can't say I've tried it tbh

[dense field]

graia is more controlled than columnus

like, by a lot

[sterile schooner]

What's the tradeoff?

[dense field]

slower RoF

Columnus is busted

because it uses graia damage profile with columnus RoF

[hardy surge]

even after Graia buff?

[dense field]

^

It was a graia braced buff

[sterile schooner]

I have just got my vet to 30 and yeah the columnus feels very good to use for me atm, partially because of the high rate of fire

[hardy surge]

ooooh, mb. thought you were talking about braced

[ripe quest]

iirc the listed damage values on the IAGs are mega shit

[keen silo]

is this worth using on catachan blade?

[hardy surge]

yes the Columnus iag is crazy good

[dense field]

never

[distant maple]

Damn 65% on a t1

[keen silo]

im getting mixed signals here

[dense field]

It's a poor blessing on any weapon

[ripe quest]

It's not really that good. If you want something similar use Wrath or Savage Sweep.

[hardy surge]

catachan blade doesn't need more cleave

[rigid trellis]

savage sweep is generally the way to go if you're after cleave

[keen silo]

gotcha

[lilac bone]

I wouldn't worry about tier 1 blessings too much. Knives are mostly mobility weapons that can crit and cause bleed. Use it if it's fun -- and then aim towards what a knife is good for. CRITS!

[keen silo]

i meant the death claw

[left iron]

Thats a dclaw

[keen silo]

not knife

[left iron]

Not a knife

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/lordfibo-lordzfebz-gif-25361200

[hardy surge]

lol, the knife is also a catachan blade. it was bound to happen

[lilac bone]

I'm always wrong. Just use the knife. It's a good choice.

[calm salmon]

sigh

bleed knife bad

[lilac bone]

It's not.

[calm salmon]

PLEASE use executor, uncanny strike, and precognition(any combination of uncanny strike+the other two)

and divebomb elites/specials

and actually be useful to your team

not get bogged down by 9 poxwalkers

because you do 31 dps

and call it "Good"

[keen silo]

is fire frenzy hard to get blessing or something?

[calm salmon]

No

but it is just RNG

so like

[keen silo]

ive done like 10 fodder

[calm salmon]

also yes

Congratulations

You've not even tried

[keen silo]

💀

[keen silo]

cut me some slack im new
im not used to all my earnings go down the drain yet

[calm salmon]

I'm just giving you context.

10 weapons is literally nothing.

[drowsy steppe]

[calm salmon]

Yeah it sucks.

yes, literally everyone hates it.

No, Fatshark hasn't said anything about changing it other than "They're working on it"

[keen silo]

lol

[hardy surge]

@keen silohey, are you lvl 30? if you are not you should s top investing until you are

[keen silo]

i am,

[lilac bone]

If it works, use it. When it stops working stop.

[ionic turret]

huh? what do you mean? it's a pretty rewarding system. i got power cycler 4 on my vet's power sword in only 1k hours. if that's not a reward for my time invested I don't know what is

[sharp zodiac]

Took me the sacrifice of my newborn to barely get powercylcler 3

Clearly a flawless system

[hardy surge]

I don't hate it. I don't care enough about getting an absolute max stats BiS weapon to mind it

[lilac bone]

Everyone will tell you everything is shit except one thing. Lemme tell you, that one thing will be nerfed. So just play what is fun. Have something for berzerkers, carapace, and hordes -- if you plan that out yer build is usable.

[olive raven]

Don’t worry, you’ll get numb to it soon

[ionic turret]

I was only joking, it's fucking dog shit lmao

[drowsy steppe]

Bleed knife is meme fun but not the best

[twilit blade]

Not 4/4, but close enough for me to mess around with while I hunt for crucian + HC

[ripe quest]

Try to get a white item that 360+ base rating. Upgrade it to blue, swap the first blessing to a T4 blessing that isn't something that you want in the second blessing. If you want to double down you can swap the perk to a T4 as well, but obv that uses both mod slots so only do it if you either only want the blessing or it's just a bad perk. Upgrade it to orange. Repeat.

[lilac bone]

Bleed knife is really -- knife. Because of the way crits are worked into the zealot tree -- if you want to crit -- you want to hit things that are bleeding -- as bleeds allow for more crits. I wish it wasn't so. The knife is for crits, bleed gives crits, so -- it's gonna be some sort of bloody.

[thorn sable]

It’s amazing how long people have continued to talk about knives when asked about a catachan blade

[olive raven]

Just… no.

[drowsy steppe]

Just run Piety keystone with Scourge for a total of 55% crit chance

[native cargo]

c:

[thorn sable]

Have you tried folding the steel?

At least 1000 times

[ionic turret]

smart. The real darktide endgame isn't having all the best weapons anyway, it's finding excuses to create builds around the absolute worst trash loadouts possible then gaslighting yourself into thinking that because you can beat auric maelstroms with them that, in fact, they were actually the best weapons the entire time

[drowsy steppe]

And actualky spec your knife to something that can kill things

[olive raven]

Bleed is Garbo compared to just killing the enemies

[south folio]

crits also bump the direct damage dealt by your knife

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/ratio-twitter-matt-tera-gif-23391300

[sharp zodiac]

You have become my 14th reason

[ripe quest]

I mean you could also just stack damage with Uncanny/Precog and Duellist. Shit is like, a ~118% damage increase before Uncanny with critical weakspot hits. The knife already crits a shitload you don't need a bleed blessing to ramp it.

[sharp zodiac]

Prepare for raining cats and dogs

[native cargo]

I will eat them all

[lilac bone]

This. You bleed to bump damage output not to bleed.

[sharp zodiac]

You will not be able to hold back the tide when it's dark

[robust bane]

@sullen eagle sorry it took me a while but here it is more or less. Anything blank is open ended https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ae23391-4717-444f-826b-cd3c7e1f2d44/knife-goes-in-guts-come-out

[south folio]

i'm arguing against you because you only need to hit a bleeding enemy for +crit chance

[ripe quest]

The only good bleed blessing on knife procs when you crit. You don't need it to ramp crits.

[south folio]

once you've got that done, just lean into the normal damage of your knife

doesn't matter if the bleeding enemy has 1 or 16 stacks

[olive raven]

Also you literally just

[ripe quest]

Even with only scourge you can ramp up crits in like 2 seconds of light spam and then you just go ham doing 2 shots on Crushers

[robust bane]

You can also do mark 6 if you want something less centered around powerful backstabs and more wild slashing and heavy attacks that can clear hordes

[olive raven]

The talent node that causes bleed

And you get plenty

[robust bane]

But mark 3 is tbh just good

[sharp zodiac]

Scourge

[ripe quest]

I wish it cleared hordes

[olive raven]

Tbh I’d swap the perks to flakiac

[sharp zodiac]

of the past

[robust bane]

flakiac?

[ripe quest]

Flak + Maniac

[olive raven]

Flak/Maniac

[sharp zodiac]

Flak and maniac

[robust bane]

Tbh, I'd say mark 6 is great for hordes, mark 3 works well too.

[ripe quest]

Great in what regard? Compared to other weapons it isn't.

It's more geared towards crowd damage, but it's not good at it.

[olive raven]

You dont want crit chance cause its so negligible

[robust bane]

Honesrtly I disagree with flakiac on the knife, crit rats is better tbh.
Fair maybe it isn't for you, but it serves me just fine and I can just find a good spot. I personally like the knife builds.

[drowsy steppe]

Great in DEEZ

[olive raven]

And crit damage modifier is already fucking nutty

[ripe quest]

Don't put a knife in your nuts.

[olive raven]

I mean yea it’s just advice

[robust bane]

I'm inclined to disagree for one reason, and that is when you're wildly swinging and decide to just do that.

[robust bane]

Fair enough.

[sharp zodiac]

That sounds painful

[olive raven]

You could prolly take a good old scoreboard and check the crit rate difference

[robust bane]

I guess you can do flackiac too, but I personally just enjoy my crit rate stuff as it makes me feel nice.

[distant maple]

So what yall think of the fanatic's slight heretical remarks about a skulls and blood

[robust bane]

Optimal? Probably not, but fun? Very.

[olive raven]

I mean ig

I just don’t think the crit rate difference is severe enough for you to notice

[ripe quest]

If you use that VA and run Chaxe you unlock a secret faith to Khorne

[robust bane]

Fair enough.

[drowsy steppe]

I think he should die

[native cargo]

ankles

[distant maple]

Well so long as they worship the master of mankind im good

[robust bane]

I don't use scoreboards so my overall performance is 'Do is seem I'm doing good? Is it helping me and my team? If yes: Then it works for me. If not, I reconsider my approach."

[sharp zodiac]

Anklebiters

[native cargo]

I bite ankles and give diseases.

[sharp zodiac]

Keep the fem one alive

[sharp zodiac]

Jus like me fr

Except I go after old people

[lusty orbit]

i bite elbows

[drowsy steppe]

You should use scoreboard for better self evaluation on your team contribution

🙂

[robust bane]

Is it mod?

[sharp zodiac]

Yes

[robust bane]

Not interested then tbh.

[clear notch]

grenades keeps piling up
is focusing on ranged twin the meta strat

[distant maple]

I'd rather not to avoid toxicity

[drowsy steppe]

Its essy to install

[native cargo]

penis

[olive raven]

That’s def fair, I only use it to check my builds between minute differences I can’t see in the psyk

[drowsy steppe]

Wami

[robust bane]

I do what feel rights, if I play well and we win I call it a W.

[native cargo]

Scoreboard moe like snoozeboard

[drowsy steppe]

Im going to destroy you

🙂

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[native cargo]

reallly 🥺

Yays

[robust bane]

If I kill lots of goons? I call it a W.

[distant maple]

STUN GREN OR FLAME GREN FOR THW HARD MODE FIGHT

[sharp zodiac]

YOUR MOTHER

[distant maple]

Gooning...

[drowsy steppe]

Im already toxic

🙂

[robust bane]

I'm a simple person, scoreboards aren't vanilla and I'd probably feel bad if I tried my best to minmax.

[left iron]

Yes you are

Can confirm

[native cargo]

I only have scoreboard to see how many kills I got because I'm on that khorne shit. I won't throw or be a detriment to the team due to it cus I got self control but

[robust bane]

So I don't, I play like the little stim addict I am

[native cargo]

BLOOD

MUST SPILL

[sharp zodiac]

..what did you just say

[native cargo]

BLOOOOD

[robust bane]

By the way give me your stims

[sharp zodiac]

Someone contain the rat

[native cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-gif-1630712686706559038

[distant maple]

Toxic like rodin's homemade fart bombs

[native cargo]

BLOOOOD

[steel temple]

This artist's WE art is awesome

[drowsy steppe]

Oh lawd can we not talk about the gas bombs

[robust bane]

It's not a drug problem it's a drug solution

[distant maple]

He loooves his fart bombs

I wonder how he made em

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975103312477167627/1182076722804445264/96C63B95-2A62-4F17-9819-C090B9772059.gif?ex=658c9c3c&is=657a273c&hm=819dba6e32f38fe17d495a5f36ad32caa00d6adf8584ff24aa285154367ec69f&

[native cargo]

idk any art I just looked up khorne in the gif lmao

[sharp zodiac]

They're not fart bombs they're bombs that have been blessed by nurgle

[distant maple]

Nurgle's fart bombs

[sharp zodiac]

Shut up

Before I call Kevin

[distant maple]

Ork bombs

[native cargo]

wrong

They're made by the brapnaks

[sharp zodiac]

The.. what

[distant maple]

Brap?

[sharp zodiac]

Oh

Nevermind

[distant maple]

What is brap

[sharp zodiac]

Don't answer my question

[drowsy steppe]

Im removing France from this world ong

[distant maple]

[sharp zodiac]

I will remove your pinky

[native cargo]

The brapnaks. You know the twins you fight

hard mode rodin just unleashes

everything

crazy

[robust bane]

I will say one thing however.

[sharp zodiac]

Oh

I was expecting some weird beyond comprehending thing again

[distant maple]

Bro didn't bother going to the bathroom before fighting

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975103312477167627/1182076722804445264/96C63B95-2A62-4F17-9819-C090B9772059.gif?ex=658c9c3c&is=657a273c&hm=819dba6e32f38fe17d495a5f36ad32caa00d6adf8584ff24aa285154367ec69f&

[sharp zodiac]

Ew EW

[robust bane]

I don't rely on the scoreboard for information as it doesn't account account for the sheer rng and randomness of a game, sometimes I'll have to worry about my team being alive than damage, sometimes the game will throw more. No two missions are the same and that can skew results.

Many games taught me already that pure bean counting of statistics (no offense) won't reflect one's perfomance well enough.

[steel temple]

Seeing how many specialists and elites you kill is a pretty strong indicator of your usefulness to the team since those enemies are the typical run enders

[sharp zodiac]

Especially the bagger and the grabber

[distant maple]

Me with my chaxe

[north sedge]

Not that difficult to parse

[sharp zodiac]

Idc if the hound doesn't grab I couldn't think of a rhyme

[steel temple]

And bombers and flamers too, even after the hotfix to flames they are still pretty threatening

[robust bane]

Yes, but will it have the same amount each time? Will somebody be a more effective specialist killer and get to them first? Are you doing a horde clearing style instead?

[dense field]

I used stunstorm. You want to stop elites RIGHT NOW, and molotovs are not as good at it as stuns.

[steel temple]

There is no such thing as horde clear style, all classes with any weapons can solo a horde

[sharp zodiac]

Those definitely feel more situationable now that it's been toned down, if your team isn't in the best spot they can easily make things go from bad to worse

[steel temple]

It's basic melee skill, the horde enemies in this game do not constitute a threat

[sharp zodiac]

But rely on something to get that ball dropped

Otherwise they're just nuisance

[robust bane]

I disagree personally, some styles are better with hordes than others. But if that is your perogative I cannot change it. I've seen teams get swamped in hordes of enemies and that bogs down the specialist killers with distractions, a horde killer is a viable playstyle.

[drowsy steppe]

Specialists ends runs 90% of the time than hordes

[versed escarp]

so does shred like, work with the eviscerator's special attack or nah

[robust bane]

You can be centered around shielgryn, some support build, or etc. You maybe not be killing specialists but you still fufilll a vital role.

[versed escarp]

(or rather, does it proc shred per eviscerator tick)

[robust bane]

See the flaw in that "Specialists is the main importance" argument?

[sharp zodiac]

No

[versed escarp]

BOOOO

[sharp zodiac]

Only on the after hit

[dense field]

Specials never end runs on their own

[drowsy steppe]

And the horde clearing weapons youre talking about are also the ones that are good against those exact elites and specials

[sharp zodiac]

Gotta wait for the rev to finish for it to proc which sucks

[drowsy steppe]

Yes they do

[clear notch]

hordes are free toughness regen

[distant maple]

Just shoot em with your dakkas

Simple as

[sharp zodiac]

The fuck is a dakka

[steel temple]

Specialist and elites are still always going to be more important, unless you want to admit that hordes are actually what gives you a bigger problem

[sharp zodiac]

You some kinda greenskin

[steel temple]

then you are blessed to suffer from a unique condition few can relate to

Who here actually has issues with hordes

[sharp zodiac]

The hordeissue

[distant maple]

Dakka dakka

[robust bane]

This, there's lots more scenarios than just than just raw damage or kill numbers that factor into good gameplay. To narrow it down to 'my way or the highway" is disingenuous and ignores the other factors that can make a good player and a good team.

[fluid mason]

so much thought...why not make it simple and run around spamming your melee.

[sterile schooner]

Tbf horde in your face does get in the way of shooting the specialists sometimes

[drowsy steppe]

Hordes, as in Pox and groaner hordes, are the least threatening thing in the game

Its the elites that can swarm

[sterile schooner]

Especially if your team isn't covering or making any space for you

[dense field]

Hordes are difficult terrain

[distant maple]

I love bomber hordes

[sharp zodiac]

Someone call for a boom

[robust bane]

Yeah, that too as well. You make a good argument yourself.

[native cargo]

yerp

on that nurgle grind

[drowsy steppe]

Or the specialist wombo combo that disables any form of movement on a run

[distant maple]

DIE

[steel temple]

Believe it or not, doing this already kills hordes

[drowsy steppe]

You dont

[steel temple]

making them basically a non factor

[fluid mason]

make everything a nonfactor

[sharp zodiac]

Turn everything into butter

Buttertide

[drowsy steppe]

You dont melee 99% of the time ever

[native cargo]

hordes on their own don't give me issue, its the occasional mixed horde or a trapper coming outta the bushes just to bind me up.

Very un-pog

[sharp zodiac]

Next time check your bushes before you get the pushes

[clear knot]

https://tenor.com/view/filian-dance-fox-filian-dance-gif-27327093

[pseudo valve]

Maulers mixed in with a pretty thick horde and a special or two plinking at me is the 'ah shit' scenario

[fluid mason]

says who

[sharp zodiac]

Barack Obama

[distant maple]

Says ME

[keen silo]

i had stripped down, it was at 519
i switched to fire frenzy it went down to 498
wtf is this

[dense field]

Well ok then

[drowsy steppe]

Do you honestly try to charge towards a sniper while hes behind a horde

[keen silo]

is that fine

[fluid mason]

yes

[distant maple]

Well

Yea

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[drowsy steppe]

I dont believe you

[left iron]

Vet moment, when you dont charge the sniper

[distant maple]

I've done it plenty of times

[drowsy steppe]

Pog

[sharp zodiac]

Rating doesn't matter

[fluid mason]

you should

[keen silo]

ig this blessing is one of those that gives good bonuses but doesnt count in rating

right

[drowsy steppe]

TRUE

[dense field]

363+45+90=???

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hellbound-hellraiser-ii-hellbound-hellraiser2-hellraiser-pinhead-screaming-gif-21215449

[north sedge]

Went down a tier in blessings, overall power does not matter

[sharp zodiac]

That basically

[keen silo]

Ohh right the tier

[sharp zodiac]

What soft said that I was about to say

[hidden verge]

what do u think about this one?

[keen silo]

ig it was strpped down tier 4

[native cargo]

Oh god its bum jantorpe

[zealous basin]

who

[fluid mason]

heresy

[clear knot]

me FLIP

[sharp zodiac]

I'd grab headtaker to consume it tbh

[clear knot]

its ME

[native cargo]

bnuum jantorpe

[zealous basin]

hi (who r u)

[native cargo]

rip the jummie

[zealous basin]

okay u know what im sorry that was rude

[hidden verge]

thx

[sharp zodiac]

Character development

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1149434177008185424/7yd8ye.gif

[clear knot]

naah its cool

[zealous basin]

:3

https://tenor.com/view/cat-uni-gif-26762123

[keen silo]

😭 why brunt, why
why shredder

[sharp zodiac]

The ogryn has found faith in holy fury

[ripe quest]

@drowsy steppe I found a relic of Patch 13 theorizing

bm powersword moment

[sharp zodiac]

Why are there giant numbers

I don't wanna be in math

[zealous basin]

u should be

[sharp zodiac]

I already learned what I needed

[zealous basin]

oh ya whatd u learn then

[sharp zodiac]

Algbre

Shapes

[zealous basin]

whooo

[fluid mason]

i learned that george washington is the 1st president

[drifting wolf]

was not expecting the columnus iag to mulch through stuff as good as it does

[zealous basin]

wrong

[fluid mason]

🧍‍♀️

[zealous basin]

freak

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/not-sure-hmm-thinking-gif-5730421

[spark raven]

Are there any good Zealot mains that stream on twitch or make good vids on youtube?

[agile pivot]

man this is why I stay my ass out of soyker chat

[polar nexus]

chocob

agentchaos

@frozen ibex is agentchaos

and telopots too

[dense field]

Reginald

[polar nexus]

ohhh yeah

[dense field]

But he's a chaxe main

[polar nexus]

they are not zealot mains, but good with every class

[drowsy steppe]

Oh lawd

Thats gonna be so stupid

When you can casually kill 6 ragers in 1swing

And fuckin 6 dreg gunners

[sharp zodiac]

They'll be..dreged..in the they're going to fucking die

I can't think of anything

[agile pivot]

psyker chat coping bc we take the game seriously

[sharp zodiac]

What chat isn't coping at least once a day

[drifting wolf]

maybe ogryn chat, not sure

[sharp zodiac]

I don't think they have the brain power necessary to understand how to cope or what coping is

Best not to explain it tho

Wouldn't want to ruin the whilsiness

Whimsiness

[ionic turret]

Does fury of the faithful proc ranged crits?

[fading vale]

why is it that the people that complain about this chat are always the biggest dipshits

like literally just read what you are writing

[agile pivot]

because we here at zelqchat are just the best

nobody here is bad

very friendly

[fading vale]

no it does something different for ranged

[ionic turret]

Interesting

[warm trellis]

I almost miss zealot chat being degen general chat

[fading vale]

it's a 3 second armor downgrade

[warm trellis]

never thought I'd say it

[fading vale]

cara to flak

flak to unarmored

[agile pivot]

also rate of fire boost yeah?

[fading vale]

yeah that too

but it doesn't give you the attack speed if you do it during firing

[royal vortex]

u have to stop shooting for the aspd onus to apply

[agile pivot]

weird bug lol

[royal vortex]

so if ur chasting and shooting u have to let go and start shooting again

it happens with any ranged aspd buff its annoying

on the flipside

if u keep firing after the buff wears off

[fading vale]

same thing with momentum, if it procs you have to stop shooting and start again

[royal vortex]

u keep it

so if u have 20 momentum stacks and lose it halfway through a brauto mag u keep firing and retain the buff

[fading vale]

allegedly a design limitation at the moment

being unable to change attack speed during an action

[versed escarp]

Anyone know a good Kantrael shotty setup?

[agile pivot]

allegedly

no respite fullbore

[versed escarp]

Im honestly not sure how to build this, the blessings in general seem meh

oh ok

[fading vale]

no respite is the best by far

[agile pivot]

if you want to use it more than the bare minimum like me no respite deathspitter

[fading vale]

then fire frenzy deathspitter or full bore

[sharp zodiac]

If you see a giant vertical rectangle load your flammable rounds you keep on yourself at all times for some reason

[agile pivot]

if you are strange you can use scattershot and flechette

niche but funny

[fading vale]

no respite does much more than it says it does

which is probably why you thought it was underwhelming

[agile pivot]

it increases the damage of active fire tics doesnt it

[fading vale]

it stacks multiple times

[agile pivot]

oh does it

[fading vale]

multiplies against stagger count

(might be limited to 3x not sure)

[agile pivot]

its ok though

I have my mk x laspistol

[fading vale]

60% damage

is kinda nice

[royal vortex]

7x

i think

[fading vale]

I never confirmed what they changed after they patched it

would need to look at code

[royal vortex]

kant shotgun still does comically high damage to a bon

[fading vale]

ah

[sharp zodiac]

It's always been my favorite weapon before I discovered the revolver

[warm trellis]

why just bon

[fading vale]

cause bon builds large stagger counts

others don't

[royal vortex]

because for some reason the weakspot hits count towards a stagger count that doesn't reset often

[warm trellis]

wacky

[royal vortex]

so a no respite gun into a bon weakspot will fuckin DESTROY it

[agile pivot]

bon also has a gigantic weakpoint that doesnt move all over gods green earth like the other two

[sharp zodiac]

And it's tasty

[agile pivot]

I think maybe I have hit the chaos spawn in the face like 4 whole times

[fading vale]

it's unclear why bonbon builds stagger count though

[agile pivot]

usually I cant even see it

[royal vortex]

the cspawn weakspot is essentially center mass when its facing u its not really that hard to hit once u know the general area its in

especially with weakspot prio weapons

(most of them)

[agile pivot]

its behind the arm or its just facing away or some other thing

but thanks

I will take this info

[royal vortex]

crab once remarked something about being further away when meleeing making it easier to hit

i think because it juts out slightly

[fading vale]

usually not too bad to hit with hammer as long as you don't accidentally hit the arm

[royal vortex]

(granted he was talking about the hsword 9 when he said it)

[fading vale]

hammers greatest weakness: stupid ass arm hitboxes

[agile pivot]

I have difficulty with the plogryn head because it makes me framedrop

[sharp zodiac]

Instead do frameups

[fading vale]

the number of times I bonk a bulwark and it's just like, how could that possibly not have killed them, oh SOMEHOW IT HIT THE ARM

[warm trellis]

too shiny

[royal vortex]

the bulwark shield hitbox still extends too far to the sides of the fucker

at least it isnt as bad as it was on launch

[warm trellis]

not always tho right

[fading vale]

I don't mean the shield

[agile pivot]

hit bulwark near its head
somehow hits the shield anyway

[fading vale]

I mean the arm

also with reapers at times

[warm trellis]

pretty sure I have video of stabbing them immediately in the side last the shield

[royal vortex]

the carapace sections on ogryn enemies are the most troll shit ever

[fading vale]

yeah

[fading vale]

all you have to do is step over their big toe

then you can hit them

[agile pivot]

I do enjoy slipping under their arm and like after image dragonball fast movementing them

[fading vale]

you can technically get inside of them past their toe on hammer and hit them from "the front"

but it's much easier to let the vet stagger reset it 40000 times by shooting it's shield over and over

[warm trellis]

yeah usually just void em in the face because I am not close enough yet

works too

[royal vortex]

he's doin his best

[agile pivot]

I cant believe steam discussions users genuinely think the boltgun is valuable because you can shoot the bulwark shield A FEW TIMES and it staggers open

like

just melee it

[fading vale]

does bolter no longer 1 shot open bulwarks?

[warm trellis]

funny surge blessing stagger it's not a big bug uh

it's totally fine

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/vvoee3

i love

the columnus

[zinc talon]

are you...

you are

you're mocking me for buying this backpack

[warm trellis]

yes

[slate void]

Thank you Hadron

[drowsy steppe]

it should still be able to

[steel temple]

Very nice revolver if you can find HandCannon 4

unarmoured to Flak and it's basically Perfect™️

[slate void]

No blessings 😔

[steel temple]

Blessingless 😔

[quaint verge]

On vet?

[median crow]

😄

[ashen heart]

do i keep the Tier 3 SkullCrusher and swap Thunderstrike for HammerBlow or do i keep Thunderstrike and Swap to Tier 4 Skullcrusher?

[celest cave]

Skullcrusher 4 is all you need.

[clear notch]

nonhard mode twins in damnation feels way too easy

[hardy surge]

no it doesn't

[clear notch]

after spamming damnation hard mode with pugs

it does

[keen silo]

this game really does not want me to play eviscerator

[versed escarp]

im sorry

where would folks in this chat take this?

[atomic sparrow]

good enough flamer roll?

[royal vortex]

maniac to unyielding

[valid junco]

Maniac to Unyielding and then kill literally everything.

[royal vortex]

fan the flames to BA, groaners to flak

unarmored is unfortunate but its w/e

[versed escarp]

Should I swap Slaughterer to Headtaker or is that unnecessary?

[valid junco]

Nah

[royal vortex]

personal preference

either will work

[olive raven]

Literal preference both work

[atomic sparrow]

yeah its not hte most perfect roll but mobility got dumped decently enough

[pseudo valve]

Usable? I wanna try out flamers

[ocean nacelle]

Is it reasonable to get shocking stuff in a pug nowadays? (40 stunned enemies in 10 seconds penance)

[sterile schooner]

Kinda difficult imo cause most of the time your pug will be aggressive enough to not leave you 40 enemies

[old wave]

guys are these teamwide

[valid junco]

Yes

[rough vault]

@royal vortex you're tall

[old wave]

thx

[drowsy steppe]

low cloud radius but its usable

swap out Quickflame for Blaze away and you want Flak over Crit damage perk and youre good

[willow vale]

Thankfully yes lol

They all are, tbh.

[versed escarp]

so i know it's a meme but

has anyone used the kantrael flechette shotty before?

how bad is it

[native cargo]

My butt smells what do

[versed escarp]

Shower, buddy

[native cargo]

No

[versed escarp]

gamer moment 😔

[quaint verge]

Throw tato powder on it

Idk

[ripe quest]

Once Overpressure gets fixed it'll be fine, could be a bit better though.

[pseudo valve]

Useable is all I need for now.

[polar nexus]

I used kantrael with no respite + flechette and scattershot + flechette

It's fun but I think there's a bug with flechette on the Kant, @ripe quest right?

[sage swan]

I'm kinda doubting my evis build now, I was having a much easier time on karnak twins hard just taking an ogryn and mashing heavy attack

i mean, theres not much else for me to take, I dont have shred on my evis so doing Blazing Piety is iffy

[clear notch]

for karnak twins?

[sage swan]

yeah

[clear notch]

ye you need to use tank martyr build

trying to spam chastise for the toughness regen won't work

[pseudo valve]

flamethrower is a good bit of fun ^^

[sage swan]

what would that build look like though... like, take shield of contempt, bleed for the emperor, and just max out wounds?

[pseudo valve]

I'd suggest support zealot for twins. Mix it with a hammer (either works, crucis is a tad bit better) and focus on clearing horde so the team can smack boss

[clear notch]

evis with rampage and savage sweep for the damage

[pseudo valve]

Works everytime

[clear notch]

shoot melee girl's shields

heavy spam on ranged boy's shields

kill the adds first before popping shields

having rampage instead of just crits will help you

are you in pugs

tell your team to focus on range boy after shields pop

kill the adds before popping shields

[celest cave]

I mean, if pugs can't handle elite or you can't carry them by deleting elites this fight is tough. Elites is the problem, bosses on their own are joke.

[clear notch]

ye it's always them getting bogged down by ragers

[keen silo]

which turto mark is best?

[sage swan]

I'm doing it with some friends, one of them is going next time with a plasma vet to handle elites

[clear notch]

you guys got a spot left?

[sage swan]

nah, got 4

[clear notch]

damn

[ember yew]

It's a problem when pugs instantly die from zercs or just stand in fire (insert classic joke here)

[clear notch]

pugs actually following tactics is hard enough

[ember yew]

did HM runs for 4+ hours yesterday, 0 successful attemps, but it was fun

like i was back to WoW days

[sage swan]

I wana do it with zealot, but I'm just kinda doubting how effective my build is

[ember yew]

Chainaxe is the king to tear up shields

[sage swan]

I'm using the new evis, since I have a decent one of those

[ember yew]

i can pop shields solo on HM if i start with melee guy

because otherwise chasing his 250 dashes is annoying

[clear notch]

chaxe having minisaw is great for this ye

[sage swan]

do you guys have an example of what a decent build for the evis would look like? these ones im seeing on gameslantern are kinda wack

[clear notch]

tank martyr?

[sage swan]

yeah

[celest cave]

Not that problem tho if you have at least 2 decent teammates who can cooperate
But ye, just QP into twins and trying to convince pugs do some shit isn't good coinflip.

[ember yew]

ik, but random pugs are extremely rough, it's like you are going hardmode on top of hardmode, i posted yesterday how veteran did 5k melee + 100 ranged damage in a lifespan of like 7 minutes. I was trying to simulate in my brain how could something like this happen, but aside from people being scared and panickly blocking 98% of the time i didn't got other ideas.

[ripe quest]

The fire round only bleeds the first target hit.

[sage swan]

huh, thats almost identical to my build, just you go for TWBS

I'll try it out with the stun immunity

[ripe quest]

Also imo Man Stopper is better compared to Flechette. It's so scale-able, esp on Lawby and Agri. Man Stopper + Flechette can be fun too on BP build

[ember yew]

if everyone making Crusher, gonna do one too, never ever used that thing

[celest cave]

Crushes was super boring before rework.

Now it's one of the best weapons.

[versed atlas]

crusher good now?

[sage swan]

yeah, crusher is a quick head crushing machine now

[celest cave]

Except carapace and boss dmg, but it's fine.

[versed atlas]

how so

[celest cave]

Rework.

[sage swan]

they buffed its attack speed and its finesse modifier by alot

[celest cave]

You don't need to spam special now.

And have good dmg and cc on basic attacks.

[sage swan]

so, aim for heads and start swinging

[ember yew]

I wonder if you can play ping pong with carapace when you got like 300% impact power, could be fun for memes or just in general

[sage swan]

the charged heavies are decent damage vs carapace, nothing like an evis or TH, but better than something like claw sword

[celest cave]

Not really, since CC radius on special very small now. Mostly you'll hit different targets in real gameplay situation. Isolated target pretty doable.

[royal vortex]

u dont even need to activate if u have trauma/hammerblow stacks

h2 with stacks up staggers a crusher unless they have stagger res

a h1 followup will also put it on its ass afterwards

[sage swan]

honestly, crusher might be ok in the twins fight if you're mainly supporting

like, elite clearing, peeling for teammates

[celest cave]

Crusher ideal weapon for survivability since you knock and kill most elites very fast. Pretty safe, but it's not fast enough to make it comfy for teammates in HM. I've tried it, better to flamer anyway.

[sage swan]

honestly, im kinda liking the idea. I'll give it a shot next time I can try

[royal vortex]

its not gonna beat a rashad/chain weapon for the boss fight but it does p ok

[ember yew]

Can it knockdown zercs in a swing animation?

[celest cave]

Push attack can iirc. But need to check.

[sage swan]

sure can

[versed atlas]

I just got this on my rashad. Thoughts

[royal vortex]

once u have stacks of an impact blessing up it does it reliably

otherwise need to hit headshots on the heavies iirc

[sage swan]

ive got two impact blessings though, that might be helping me a bit

[royal vortex]

the heavy 2 (horizontal from the left) has the highest base stagger out of any crusher move

[celest cave]

🇫

[versed atlas]

😔

I thought brittleness wasn't too bad

[celest cave]

Technically you can do decapitator -> bromentum and crit dmg -> flak or something and it would be fine weapon.

But rolls are sad=\

[versed atlas]

Im not a fan of decapitator tbh

since there is nothing to one shot around bosses most the time

[celest cave]

I'm not sure if anyone are fan of it.

[ember yew]

at least new IV blessing

[celest cave]

Anyone here claw parry masters tho?
Learning it currently and can't figure out if it's safe to use parry in mixed horde or not really.

[sage swan]

hold down block while you mash parry, it cancels the recovery animation of the parry

[pseudo valve]

Depends on whats in the horde

[misty abyss]

It’s not really worth going for the parry during hoards more so than you should just do your hoard clear combo most of the time

If it’s ragers yeah I would go for the parry

[pseudo valve]

Absolutely use it to dick over ragers. Be cautious with maulers and if there are multiple maulers/crushers it's something of a gamble

Also, surprisingly, really useful to duel bosses with it. You can parry them pretty easily, except fleshbag cause he's fast

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

game stop

[sage swan]

change unarmored to flak, trauma to the single damage blessing the thing has, and you're golden

[celest cave]

Yeah, bosses isn't a problem. Chaos spawn is fine imho, like it dies faster from parry because of fast attacks.
Usually it's maulers and ragers that give me troubles.

[pseudo valve]

Fair enough. Ragers are simple, just walk into them when they start winding up and the parry can usually one or two tap them depending on aim

[devout pasture]

Why not on Veteran, Why on Zealot 🥲

[versed atlas]

Just tried out brittleness on bosses feels really nice tbh

completely removes armor

[ember yew]

sad part i still need to unlock Skullcrusher IV

so just gonna slap III on it meanwhile

[sage swan]

yeah just hunt around for it, check if melk has it every now and then

[pseudo valve]

Been pondering what melee weapon complements the flamer

think I've settled on chainsword

[sage swan]

wait a fucking second when the fuck did I get Skullcrusher4??????

[pseudo valve]

makes for a fun 'this is my zone' kind of playstyle

[sage swan]

I just been sitting on this???????????????

well hot damn

there we go, not fuckin bad

[gray ice]

I'd put flak instead of cara

you'll get far more mileage out of it

[sage swan]

yeah, probably a good idea, I was just thinking about the twins fight lmao

[gray ice]

even then you'd still want flak, you don't wanna hit them in the head

[celest cave]

Twins base flak and head carapace anyway.

It's not really profitable to hit their heads.

[sage swan]

aaaaaaa my plasteel.... she wanes...

I'll get it swapped over later

[celest cave]

Imagine being broke on plasteel smh

[ivory marlin]

Hi vin

[sage swan]

I had so much stored up, then I went and made a million new weapons for my characters

[gray ice]

hi gale

[spark ember]

Tell it to chaxe users

[clear notch]

holy shit i did it

hard mode with pugs\

[ivory marlin]

Jale

[sage swan]

grats

[spark raven]

Since i have the same Evuserator would this build be a good fit? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad6955a-1a54-4a6a-bfdb-dbc89c493000/mk-xv-eviscerator-is-crazy?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[gray ice]

g a l e

we've been over this

[ivory marlin]

Read the name vin its a j

[gray ice]

I see the name

[clear notch]

muse of jale

[gray ice]

and reject it

[ivory marlin]

I reject your rejection

[gray ice]

I met you as gale and you will die as gale

[clear notch]

your name is silly, muse of jale

[ivory marlin]

SILLY muse of jale but yes

I am silly

[clear notch]

straight up silly fr fr

[ivory marlin]

I am a silly goose ngl

[clear notch]

just needed teammates that doesn't crumple when faced with more than 3 ragers

i'm surprised the hard mode just didn't spam crushers

[ivory marlin]

One day you’ll say jale

[sage swan]

yeah... If I had 4 of me, I think I could clear it. constantly left as last one alive lmao

[ivory marlin]

Hows the zealot meta

[clear notch]

first tox in the room should've just spawned crusher clusters to weed out people

[ivory marlin]

Is it still bleed knife?

[clear notch]

chaxe is useful now

[spark raven]

I have a pretty good roll Mk15 evis do i use a different build for it than for the MK2?

[clear notch]

both the old and the new

[ivory marlin]

What about taxes tho?

[clear notch]

taxe and bleed knife are the only useless weapons left that zealot has

[ivory marlin]

Lmao

[sage swan]

taxe is unfortunate, but I'm expecting it to get a buff

[clear notch]

ye taxe is the only one that's useless now

[ivory marlin]

Lmao

[clear notch]

but caxe exist

so i doubt it's getting a buff

[sage swan]

thats not to say you cant do well with a taxe, I've seen auric maelstroms get cleared with a taxe zealot

[spark raven]

I looked at this one https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad6955a-1a54-4a6a-bfdb-dbc89c493000/mk-xv-eviscerator-is-crazy?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button question is is it good?

[hardy surge]

that's so sad. I really like the taxe

[ivory marlin]

Wowzers

[hardy surge]

congrats

[sage swan]

thats a chocoB build, of course it's good

[ivory marlin]

Is that the highest difficulty one?

[clear knot]

im proud of u contra : )

[sage swan]

ChocoB is like, a monster at these games. thousands of hours in all 3 tide games

[ivory marlin]

Hi jum

[clear knot]

hallo

[polar nexus]

Yes

[ivory marlin]

Hows the wife and kids

[polar nexus]

Chocob is a good player.

[clear notch]

did it with pugs 🙏

[clear knot]

my wife is ballin. kidz be chillin

[ivory marlin]

Thats good

[clear notch]

it's great that the melee girl constantly agro'd on me so i can pull her to the center of the room

[ivory marlin]

Melee girl has a hard on for me istg

No matter who i am or where i am she dead bolts to me

[clear notch]

i think the hard mode fight really comes down to clearing the adds before popping both shields so you have an opening to just deal damage

[sage swan]

when are they adding the Karnak Twins to Dead by Daylight?

[ivory marlin]

Tomorrow

[sage swan]

:O

[ivory marlin]

Then the fortnite crossover is next week

[ember yew]

there's already twins in DBD

or whatever that thing called

[sage swan]

new Jonesy killer in dbd

[clear notch]

deal 25% of the bar fast enough and the tox happens
most of the damage can be dealt with a rev heavy weakspot

[ivory marlin]

Fortnite jonsey survivor and raven team leader killer

Her weapon is an og pump

[sage swan]

her mori is hitting you with the griddy before ending you

[ivory marlin]

After she attacker her recharge animation is hitting the dougie

[spark raven]

I came back to this game like a week ago and most of my playtime is on the old skill system so i cant really judge whats good or not

[sage swan]

yeah, i dont expect anyone to know who chocob is, but watching their vids is how I got good at Vermintide 2, and Vermintide 2 is how I got good at Darktide

[clear notch]

change stamina regen probably on the curios
zealot already has good stamina stats, more stamina regen doesn't add a lot

[ivory marlin]

Guys ugly garfield plush is so me

Like that’s literally just me in that photo

[spark raven]

I never truly masterd VT2 melee

[clear notch]

the fuck

[sage swan]

once you get it down, it's like a dance, super satisfying to pull off

[clear notch]

block efficiency

[ivory marlin]

Yummy

[clear knot]

i woouldnt use that build with a gun to my head but thats me

[sour stirrup]

yeaaa the Evis perks are yikes on that build

[spark raven]

More Health or Toughness then?

[clear notch]

damn he's coked tf out

[clear notch]

toughness

[gray ice]

unlikely

[ivory marlin]

Nah he’s just tired

[sage swan]

yeah chocob doesn't get like, meta gear, just gets a good modifier roll, maxes it to orange, changes the blessings

[clear notch]

he fucking eepy
boy is full of lasaga

[spark raven]

Can explain why ?

[sour stirrup]

you can change to +% Ordo Dockets too since you'll need a lot

[sage swan]

lots of people dont like using Martyrdom, since it requires you to be low health to get use out of it

[clear knot]

thats not why

[clear notch]

it's

[sage swan]

it also wants you to swap all of your health/toughness curios to wounds

[clear notch]

it's half crit cdr and half martyr build

which isn't really meshing well

you'd be better off just going full on one tree instead

[clear knot]

it doesnt know what it really wants to be and everythign in that build to me is all over the place.

but i am smol brain so i could be looking or thinking of it wrong

[sage swan]

i mean, the gameplay he uploaded shows it working perfectly fine, but again, chocob is Not an average player

[clear knot]

use what you want, if ur having fun. it doesnt matter

[spark raven]

If have trouble surviving how would would i build Evis?

[sinful maple]

MK2 or MK15?

[clear knot]

i have a evis build in the pins here, you can swap the old evis for new one and thats a good build for evis as a bseline

[spark raven]

Im messing with almost all zealot melee weapons

[spark raven]

My Mk15 has the bettter rolls

[minor sage]

@fading vale man i feel like all those flesh tearer lacerate bleed knifers gives knife such a bad rep LOL

it's actually such a great weapon

i'm literally addicted

to knife