Is that reak
#zealot-class
strange kestrel
vapid olive
hawt
brazen umbra
no knives suck
olive raven
actual knife i use dw, double bleed knives are shit
steep hollow
the new knife specifically has such a stupid block efficiency lol
you can facetank a chaos spawn im pretty sure
steep hollow
im not too sure on the specifics, i just remember seeing a random zealot hold off a chaos spawn for a solid 5 minutes
so im assuming whatever block it does must be better than the old knife
coarse birch
i think most weapons can block a chaos spawn forever except like maybe mk6 psword
steep hollow
i think most weapons can block a chaos spawn forever except like maybe mk6 pswor...
fair
steep hollow
power sword? just bad dodges
coarse birch
casue ik after 2 it loses max dodge effectiveness
ah ok nvm then
yeah not sure what cant block spawn then
steep hollow
its kinda funny, you'd think dodge distance wouldn't matter too much but i kept going down constantly for like 6 games on vet running psword after religiously using the chainsword for a while
you grow to appreciate rev it up...
coarse birch
dodge distance is nice
its not needed cause you can still dodge most things even with bad dodges
but its always nice to have
faint thistle
thoughts?
coarse birch
stats and unyielding are good the other stuff is bad
faint thistle
yeaaaaaah
coarse birch
but you can make it usable with thrust yeah
steep hollow
thrust is all the rage with hammers
steep hollow
probably becuase it's hilarious to output 30,000 damage in one swing
faint thistle
where da boss go? lol
north sedge
unarmoured aint great but with blessings changes a quite good hammer
faint thistle
good for horde clear i spose
steep hollow
doesn't unarmoured apply to plague ogryns? and beasts i think
north sedge
no
steep hollow
they need to give zealots the 2h mauler chaxe already
what blessings are actually good on the combat axes now? still have an old one with brutal momentum from before the nerf lol
coarse birch
damn limbsplitter thrust is a combo i havent sen on caxe
left iron
Except the thammer would've killed the spawn outright there, instead of taking more swings
torn stream
Yeah but only having a quarter of the TH's sexiness 
faint thistle
and no earthshattering kaboom the hammer gives
coarse birch
but BM is the really important one
steep hollow
didn't it get completely fucked though?
subtle cedar
Limbsplitter thrust caxe is not gonna kill hordes very well
steep hollow
oh huh then. time to bring out the ancient rashad then
axe and then maybe the new las pistol
i guess. crit build?
or just martyr for shits and giggles
subtle cedar
New laspistol kinda crap for zeqlot
north sedge
marty or momentum for axe
subtle cedar
The new laspistol is a vet weapon for doing that spend stamina for crit while adsing
steep hollow
i really just have been sleeping on the axes for so long then. and i don't even see anyone use them in random games
subtle cedar
Node
coarse birch
caxe has been good forever
so people probably got bored of it with new weps
which is why you dont see it as much
steep hollow
speaking of vet, i find it really funny how marksman's focus, a keystone meant for slow and precise playstyles, works better by just spamming an autogun into a crowd
good thing i already grinded my ass off for a decent one, then
literally has just been sitting in my inventory
for ayear
bc i though brutal momentum was ass now
insane
steep hollow
i did. felt weird for the first like 3 games
then i just went back to the eviscerator because by then the skill rework came out
idk this is just a product of ignorance on my end
proly why i never see it in pubs then
ive actually been extremely ejoying the new revolver. in like any build
minor sage
imagine requiring still to play 🤢
steep hollow
infinitely cooler to fan fire at snipers 150m away than to just ads like a nerd
lol
i mean obviously the gun class does more crit damage with guns than the melee class
ripe quest
It's still generally known that it's a very strong weapon.
steep hollow
didn't they change the run n gun blessing to tighten your spread and give like a close damage boost or something?
minor sage
supposedly
minor sage
but i dont think it works properly
spark raven
My heavy sword
stray cedar
Not bad Guardian
warped dragon
Eehhh.. more like flak, maniac or unarmored
steep hollow
the real question is why 15% maniac
left iron
When in doubt, flakiac
spark raven
I wish had Rampage on it https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth
ripe quest
didn't they change the run n gun blessing to tighten your spread and give like a...
Hit & Run? The dodge on close ranged kill one?
steep hollow
no the blessing on some guns that allows you to hipfire while sprinting
mainly on staves and the new revolver i think
north sedge
that's run n gun
steep hollow
that’s… what i said, yes
ripe quest
spark raven
Zealot is my most played class after that comes ogryn. Vet im still in progressof leveling
steep hollow
0.1 spread modifier lol
ripe quest
It's a bit small
esp since the weapons that get it don't really need it
I think like, Kickback on Ogryn gets it?
Might be fun there but they also have other blessings on it
silver rapids
Wait so, is bloodthirsty blessing not there anymore for Heavy Evisercator?
I can't see it
ripe quest
Take a screenshot of it
drifting wolf
that is agonizing
dusk hawk
the real question is why 15% maniac
this
ripe quest
Wait what do you even mean by this? I don't think you need 4x Caxe just to roll a single good one.
ripe quest
Bloodthirsty is a T4 blessing iirc
drifting wolf
Wait what do you even mean by this? I don't think you need 4x Caxe just to roll ...
you need 4 of the 5 modifiers it has to be in 75+ range for it to be at it's most effective
ripe quest
Both T3 and T4 say they have 8 since Perfect Strike is only a T3 so it fills the spot.
ripe quest
you need 4 of the 5 modifiers it has to be in 75+ range for it to be at it's mos...
Ah ok. So many different systems used for that I thought it was just him saying something dumb again.
drifting wolf
that's honestly dreadful to think about especially with how much of a pain it already is to get the blessings and perks you want
spark raven
I wish blessings where account wide i mean we earned once why should we forced to refarm them on each char
minor sage
it is account wide
spark raven
Wierd i had a blessing that fits on 2 weapontypes but i could only put it on the weapon type removed it from
minor sage
Blessings are weapon type specific
So a blessing on revolver is diff from blessing on autogun
drifting wolf
yeah, variants share the blessing pool
ripe quest
that's honestly dreadful to think about especially with how much of a pain it al...
Kinda? It's not really any different compared to a good chunk of other weapons. High non-dump stats with BM and Deci/Headtaker along with whatever BPs you can hit with perks isn't too bad.
violet hornet
Only psyker staves don't follow those rules, all staves share weapon skins but not blessings
minor sage
tbh the weapon crafting/progression system could use some work
I think a system similar to div2 where you have multiple ways to improve a weapon
would do dt justice
violet hornet
tbh the weapon crafting/progression system could use some work
Understatement of the year
minor sage
Understatement of the year
ye but they've done a good job with the rebalances and class rework so far
so i'm not mad
that they prioritized that
ember yew
tbh the weapon crafting/progression system could use some work
It took them many years in Vermintide 2, but in the end they added Red Gear and Crafted Red Gear. I wonder if we can expect Red Gear here after a year or two
violet hornet
ye but they've done a good job with the rebalances and class rework so far
Yes it's certainly better than it was
minor sage
It took them many years in Vermintide 2, but in the end they added Red Gear and ...
100%
ripe quest
Yes, it's in a very annoying spot. Thousands of ideas have been thrown out so it'll probs get a good look. I'm hopeful since just about every playtester I've seen here has issues with the crafting system.
spark raven
id like Weapon stat upgrade system where you can remove a bit of one stat and reallocate it to another
fickle atlas
can anyone help clarify the main differences between zealot and veteran? Have difficulty differentiating the two
minor sage
the way that the weapon system in division2 works IMO is much better
it's split into early, mid and late-game progression
vapid olive
zealot shank shank veteran pew pew
minor sage
so each weapon rolls a bunch of stats, similar to DT weapons
drifting wolf
can anyone help clarify the main differences between zealot and veteran? Have di...
veterans have a stronger emphasis on ranged combat, it's the complete opposite for zealots, which generally focus on melee
minor sage
so you have weapons with like 90/100, 70/100, etc right
fickle atlas
veterans have a stronger emphasis on ranged combat, it's the complete opposite f...
thanks!
minor sage
so for early game people, your goal is to roll a weapon with as high stats as possible
then, in the midgame, there's this thing called recalibration
ripe quest
can anyone help clarify the main differences between zealot and veteran? Have di...
Zealot really likes melee weapons, Vet likes ranged weapons. You can have issues splitting the two up since in a vacuum they can accomplish similar things, all classes are mostly just up to preference unless you're min maxing in a premade.
minor sage
so each weapon has 3 stats, and 1 of them can be recalibrated to the highest roll you've discovered so far
so if you have a 90/100, 60/100, 88/100 weapon, you can recalibrate the 60/100 to 100
and finally for the endgame, you have this system called optimization
where you can give any stat on a weapon +5 for VERY EXPENSIVE costs
ornate bone
Wait, you guys aren't magdumping the poxwalker horde with the voice of Terra talent?
minor sage
so if you have a 90/100, you can optimize it twice to 95/100 and then 100/100
but it's extremely expensive
and imo it gives a very good system for progression
because the ease in terms of access
and how much grind it is
differs for someone who's new to the game
vs someone who's trying to get their perfect BiS weapon
ember yew
so if you have a 90/100, you can optimize it twice to 95/100 and then 100/100
yesterday wasted 12k plasteel and 1+m gold and didn't get a single wep
classic darktide experience
minor sage
danktide
dense karma
farttide
vapid mirage
yesterday wasted 12k plasteel and 1+m gold and didn't get a single wep
you surely got weapons for that
not necessarily the ones you wanted, but weapons
ember yew
no
not even a single one to get 2+2
at least 3/4 rank mix
found it
it was for the first time such bad RNG though
not a big deal for me, but then after playing VT2 for so long going back to awful RNG rolls is pretty meh
spark raven
Is there a channel to squad up ? I dont like being in VC do my hypersentivity having evven more stimuli recks my focus even more
violet hornet
There's some LFG channels but I'm not sure how often people group up there without also forming a VC
What continent are you on?
spark raven
EU
violet hornet
I believe you'd want this one: https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042833778931929109
serene fable
this worth investing in, considering its zealot
violet hornet
this worth investing in, considering its zealot
Yeah agri brauto is awesome for zealot
remote valley
anyone got tips or can help me with just a flesh wound penance?
open echo
this good? (just want to test the new knife)
bleak apex
strong current
limpid pike
oh im doing this build with it
its a meme stealth chainsword
so the bleed stacks help with it
ripe quest
If you swap Bloodletter with Rampage you'll get a very standard Mk XV.
Not quite sure how +Elites scales for the Mk XV but it might hit some BPs.
If you want a bleed Evis for whatever reason, use the Mk II since the H1 isn't target capped.
faint mountain
I get this feeling that Finesse is actually kinda important
limpid pike
If you swap Bloodletter with Rampage you'll get a very standard Mk XV.
oh ok thanks for info
ripe quest
I get this feeling that Finesse is actually kinda important
On the knife it's a good chunk of damage.
And a attack speed too.
faint mountain
damn
brazen umbra
power cycler for thammer?
say a lvl 4 blessing for an extra charge
1 rather than 2
too much?
north sedge
That would be dumb
brazen umbra
power sword with 3 swings is dumb
sharp zodiac
this good? (just want to test the new knife)
I'd swap haymaker
sharp zodiac
Just doesn't feel as practical as precognition, but if that's your call then fine
minor sage
Just doesn't feel as practical as precognition, but if that's your call then fin...
it's for different purposes
precog is big dmg boost for single target
dense field
power sword with 3 swings is dumb
Power sword with 17 swings was dumb.
minor sage
haymaker significantly improves your clear
i don't think you can compare them directly
ripe quest
In my mind trying to force the knife to be a crowd clear thing is just making it worse at single target and only mediocre at crowd clear
Covering weaknesses is cool on generalist or ST/CC leaning weapons but knife is very single target oriented
minor sage
I haven't tried it yet personally ¯_(ツ)_/¯
but i'm not going to knock it
when i haven't tested it
open echo
In my mind trying to force the knife to be a crowd clear thing is just making it...
talking about new cleave knife
minor sage
theoretically it makes sense
ripe quest
talking about new cleave knife
I am aware.
minor sage
the new knife h1 h2 has decent cleave
open echo
procog is much better one single target kinfe
oak yacht
So on the MkIV tac axe, when should you be using heavy attacks?
ripe quest
That knife isn't like, great at crowds either.
steep hollow
its good that they tried, but the fundamental playstyle w/ the knife goes against "crowd control"
so the new knife is just
slightly worse at single target
slightly better at horde management
ripe quest
It's better than the III but not by enough to compete
steep hollow
something something jack of all trades master of none
uncut scaffold
the fundamental playstyle of knife is "let the rest of my team handle it"
serene fable
your job is to hit dh
uncut scaffold
knife zealot's job is to go back to the mourningstar and change
open echo
your job is to hit dh
just had a game where a lvl 36 oggryn did that and got insta votekicked
steep hollow
nah knife playstyles get too much bad rep due to bad players with 0 positioning
a knife zealot can literally save the run in a proper context and also is just generally helpful to take down any big target
some people just run off and die in a horde
and throw the game
uncut scaffold
I mean, any build can save a run in proper context?
open echo
just had a game where a lvl 36 oggryn did that and got insta votekicked
its so funny seing the votekick pop up and them insantly vanish
steep hollow
fair but with the uptime on invis its essentially just free revives 24/7
hardy surge
ah yes, another day, another knife debate
uncut scaffold
had a 26 zealot pop chorus and trigger the dh earlier
steep hollow
had a 26 zealot pop chorus and trigger the dh earlier
lol
quartz tartan
im the best there is
uncut scaffold
I just think running into public games with a build that can't handle hordes is irresponsible at least
hardy surge
is parry with the devil's claw something worth looking into on zealot?
serene fable
is parry with the devil's claw something worth looking into on zealot?
yeah
serene fable
chastise into headshot parry can one hit crushers on the right build
steep hollow
can they give zealots a greatsword already please. like 2h sword. all i want
open echo
it can block like. pretty much anything
it can block crusher overheads
uncut scaffold
eviscerator does not scratch my 2h sword itch
hardy surge
any recommendation on mark / blessings?
steep hollow
eviscerator does not scratch my 2h sword itch
exactly
eviscerator is amazing. but i want a proper steel sword
open echo
any recommendation on mark / blessings?
iv is the best dclaw
uncut scaffold
heavy sword, though
steep hollow
right but thats still 1h
dense field
any recommendation on mark / blessings?
Mk4, rampage, shred
uncut scaffold
hand and a half
hardy surge
thank you
dense field
yw
steep hollow
just give me a greatsword. ill take a longsword even
ripe quest
So on the MkIV tac axe, when should you be using heavy attacks?
I'm not a big expert on Taxe but Heavies and PA's are used for Flak, Unyielding, Maniacs, and Scab Bruisers. Lights will outpace heavies for Carapace. You should probs test it because Taxe is super BP oriented, you might not need heavies as much. Depending on how the PA swings it'll be nice for BM.
steep hollow
mauler axe...
uncut scaffold
a 2h axe would have big baruk khazad energy
steep hollow
i really want an overheat weapon on zealot
or just anything i can explode myself with really
hardy surge
when doing knife I keep running into explodey things. if that helps.
serene fable
give zealot a gecko
ornate bone
What's the difference between the 2 handed chainswords
sharp zodiac
Yeah it's pretty good, 3/4
And yeah left side
And don't forge twbs
Corget
Forget
hardy surge
never forgetty
polar nexus
veterans have a stronger emphasis on ranged combat, it's the complete opposite f...
Vet's has plasma and psword. Zealot has flamer and eviscerator. That's it.
dense coral
Is I shall not fall worth to be taken in the martyrdom specs? I mean, to have a good amount of wounds you have to forgo thoughness curios
hardy surge
wounds give you toughness damage reduction. so it balances out
untold carbon
Fun fact: Technically evis is a power weapon, because it is equipped with a lower power disruption field generator, which is a weaker version of what’s fitted to other power weapons.
dense coral
wounds give you toughness damage reduction. so it balances out
tbh missing health gives you toughness damage reduction
untold carbon
This information use to be provided via the mk2 evis’s description, I really miss the weapon descriptions, they added so much
violet dragon
what mod is this ?
untold carbon
Scoreboard
violet dragon
ty
polar nexus
just had a game where a lvl 36 oggryn did that and got insta votekicked
Mistake can happen. You just deal with it. And the DH disappears after 2 deaths, so not really a PB.
polar nexus
This information use to be provided via the mk2 evis’s description, I really mis...
When did they disappear?
untold carbon
When did they disappear?
When the detailed weapon inspection stuff was added
polar nexus
😦
violet dragon
That means nothing. He can be a reroll.
no i just dont understand the endgame levelling, how can you be lvl36?
is it after your gear levels add up?
polar nexus
True lvl mod
untold carbon
@polar nexus aka this menu
polar nexus
Base 30 + exp gained after that cap
violet dragon
i see i see
polar nexus
😦
violet dragon
does that include games played before you download the mod?
polar nexus
Yes
untold carbon
It made me pretty sad when the descriptions were removed because they added some nice little bits of world building and just cool tidbits
This one was my personal favorite at the time
untold carbon
i wonder what my zealot level is lmao
I remember playing for around 300ish hours before I learned how to mod and at the time I exclusively played Ogryn and my true level at the time was 103, now it’s 246
plucky gate
It made me pretty sad when the descriptions were removed because they added some...
yeah i kinda miss them
spark ember
seems like Ines used too much of these new stimms...
shadow spruce
the helli sthis chat spam?
If I had to guess it’s the save mission mod
violet dragon
I remember playing for around 300ish hours before I learned how to mod and at th...
ok so im prob around 100ish
violet dragon
maybe +-5
minor sage
holy fucking shit
people kept dying
dragged them kicking and crying to the finish line
minor sage
also why are there so many characters named Callista?
I think it's a name in the randomized pool
like Villan or Gronk
north sedge
Hell yea block efficiency
untold carbon
Congrats
next trench
i can change the perks and this is gooood
untold carbon
Flak/Carapace is what I prefer on it personally
forest dew
ladies and gentleman
Jesus Christ, it's Jason Bourn.
untold carbon
@next trench Also I have 2 chainaxes that I swap between depending on the mission, I have one like yours for more general use and I have one with headtaker and thrust for melting elites, which can one shot a crusher under the rights conditions
Without chastise
ripe quest
yee that's pretty normal for chaxe
forest dew
My favorite crusher melting device is a mk4 dueling sword.
untold carbon
@ripe quest Also I’m considering giving the og chainaxe a try, what are the optimal combos for it?
woeful pecan
Which chainsword is better? Mk IV or Mk XIIIg?
untold carbon
Depends on preference
untold carbon
I personally prefer the MkIV chainsword
Mainly because I’ve just become so accustomed to it that I’m reluctant to embrace the Mk XIIIg
next trench
<@136495831162290176> Also I have 2 chainaxes that I swap between depending on t...
this catachan
FUCKS
faint mountain
what mod is this ?
Scoreboard
ripe quest
<@239404785453760512> Also I’m considering giving the og chainaxe a try, what ar...
Thrust/Headtaker/Slaughterer. Same as the Mk XII. I use Flak + Elites but it also likes Unyielding and Carapace. Maniac is ok but you can stun lock them and also kill them really fast with lights already.
I've heard Unarmored is fun on both Chaxe's as well, but I haven't tried it.
untold carbon
Horde combo for it is push attack heavy yeah?
ripe quest
Just heavy spam. PA is now just used for it's CC and in some cases for it's lack of a target cap. Heavies will clear crowds faster.
untold carbon
I’m guessing it’s advised to take the extra attack speed node? Or is that not necessary?
jagged aspen
i get tired of ppl venting abt bad teammates on here but seriously, two of us were trapped and had like 10 poxwalkers on us and neither teammate did anything, the third came along and got trapped too, then the last just died, this couldve been avoided if we werent just getting whittled away by tiny enemies. it takes like half a second to help a trapped teammate smh
ember yew
i get tired of ppl venting abt bad teammates on here but seriously, two of us we...
That's not the worst case, i saw a veteran with 100 ranged damage after phase one and a half of phase two on Twins HM.
And ||5k melee damage||
And he was alive for quite long.
This is something beyond me.
still quartz
i get tired of ppl venting abt bad teammates on here but seriously, two of us we...
Some people are not good at making correct decisive choices on the spot and it shows
Traps take half a second to clear but somehow a ton of pubs don't remember that and just try to clear the area around first assuming it'll take as long as a revive
Even after picking you up from the trap
The brain controls in mysterious ways
dusty junco
In one sentence convince me to make a zealot character for the first time
north sedge
Butt
drifting wolf
most fun melee combat of all classes
agile pivot
In one sentence convince me to make a zealot character for the first time
Only viable character everything else sucks
dusty junco
Only viable character everything else sucks
Hmm not very convincing, try again
untold carbon
In one sentence convince me to make a zealot character for the first time
Local crackhead preaches about divinity and faith while butchering every heretic is sight
dusty junco
Local crackhead preaches about divinity and faith while butchering every heretic...
Understandable
jagged aspen
wth am i supposed to do if im faced with crushers or ragers or a monstrosit or maulers? like do i just take loads of toughness damage then health damage then wish i picked ogryn instead or what?
minor sage
wth am i supposed to do if im faced with crushers or ragers or a monstrosit or m...
you kill them
jagged aspen
wow thanks didnt think of that
hardy surge
learn to dodge and weave around the maulers and crushers. If you can't melee the ragers, kite and gun them
minor sage
wow thanks didnt think of that
to be fair, what else can I say lololol 
minor sage
which weapon
hardy surge
I always focus my guns on whatever can take down ragers better
jagged aspen
crusher
minor sage
special -> knockdown, then smash their heads in
drifting wolf
crusher can stagger rager groups, iirc
jagged aspen
special -> knockdown, then smash their heads in
knockdown?
minor sage
ye i think the special knocks down ragers and staggers maulers/crushers?
woeful pecan
Is Auric just Damnation with guaranteed high intensity?
drifting wolf
i can confirm the special can smack bulwarks out of their defensive stance, easy pickings afterwards
minor sage
Is Auric just Damnation with guaranteed high intensity?
there's a hidden modifier on it that spawns more shit
woeful pecan
there's a hidden modifier on it that spawns more shit
Okay, just checking. Tried it for the first time because Damnation felt too easy, and I got bullied. We won, but it was more due to the Psykers than me
minor sage
Okay, just checking. Tried it for the first time because Damnation felt too easy...
yep i think the standard hardest difficulty is auric hi-int stg
sometimes maelstroms are harder
but it's a mixed bag
woeful pecan
My only death did teach me that I cannot be nearly as aggressive on Auric or I get two trappers and eight bombers on my ass
minor sage
i think auric histgis prob the most fun
woeful pecan
It was hi-int stg, and the plague tree scanning map
minor sage
oh yeah that one is pretty rough
hab dreyko kek
having a strong build and good weapons
helps a lot
stray cedar
Okay guys be honest is there any salvaging this:
woeful pecan
My build is pretty decent. Really it was getting net'd out of range of my allies that did me in
Stayed closer to them after that
minor sage
Okay guys be honest is there any salvaging this:
it actually might be salvageable lol
can you show pen numbers
on chaxe
olive raven
how tf are there
stray cedar
which number in particular
minor sage
cara and unyielding ADM
stray cedar
minor sage
and flak ADM
if you have it
ok so you would need to test this
but I'm pretty sure due to how the rev works
stray cedar
unyielding isn't on any stat
untold carbon
Understandable
Was that in anyway convincing?
minor sage
and see if thunderous is applying
dusty junco
Was that in anyway convincing?
Mhm
stray cedar
yeah Thunderous I thought could also go with a bleed/crit Kantrael or a Flamer, at the worst
will test it 1 sec
see how many stacks of Brittle it gives
minor sage
if rev is able to hit 40% brittle and apply it to the rev
I think that might be pretty sick
check how close you are to crusher and mauler oneshot with it
minor sage
oh too bad lmao
yeah it's fucked then
i thought that since the rev is a multihit
if you could cap the stacks instantly
and have it apply to the rip
fading vale
nope
ember yew
hab dreyko kek
hab dreyko got a bit rigged spawns at the end
like zercs waves especially
and they are infinite too, so better scan stuff fast, i remember finishing it a few times and everyone was at 0 ammo
jagged aspen
hmm, but what do i do against the twins or assasination targets?
dusty junco
Convince me to make a zealot before I make a psyker with one sentence.
uncut scaffold
Psyker is game on easy mode.
fading vale
Hold W.
north sedge
Butt stuff
oak yacht
A lot of psykers perform very badly because for some reason they just want to spam smite on trash mobs
untold carbon
Convince me to make a zealot before I make a psyker with one sentence.
Would you rather use a big ass Chainsword or use a dinky little saber
next trench
guess nobody is getting close to me with this one
uncut scaffold
Hey does full bore work on the slug special
untold carbon
Yes
uncut scaffold
that sounds busted
untold carbon
Not really
fading vale
it would be good if the slug was worth anything
dusty junco
Would you rather use a big ass Chainsword or use a dinky little saber
Psyker gives bad arguments so Zealot it is
hardy surge
handy yes. busted no
fading vale
but it's just a shitty revolver
uncut scaffold
slug 1 shots gunners?
untold carbon
So does revolver on its own
hardy surge
it would be good if the slug was worth anything
has more stagger than revolver. can drop the bulwarks shield, can get crushers, maulers and ragers on their butts
it is super handy
uncut scaffold
maybe i just got a shit revolver then
fading vale
has more stagger than revolver. can drop the bulwarks shield, can get crushers, ...
woopty fucking doo
stray cedar
what are the meta blessings for old Chaxe anyways
fading vale
shoot 1 thing lol
uncut scaffold
why are you being so rude
untold carbon
what are the meta blessings for old Chaxe anyways
Same for the new one
north sedge
what are the meta blessings for old Chaxe anyways
Thrust slaughterer headtaker
stray cedar
Thrust? Interesting
would've figured not as much on the old one as heavies are for hordes
hardy surge
Thurst in chaxe affects the rev. add a chastice mid rev and you get crazy amounts of damage
north sedge
Heavy rev can make your crusher troubles go away
hardy surge
I can 1 hit gas phase the twins hard mode with one of those
untold carbon
Thurst in chaxe affects the rev. add a chastice mid rev and you get crazy amount...
With momentum and max thrust you don’t even need chastise to one shot a crusher, granted you have cara as one of your perks
stray cedar
well my cursed chaxe still 2-shots them and can 1-shot them with mid-rev chastise
hmm
buoyant pecan
if slug was the primary firing option, fullbore would be goated
north sedge
uncut scaffold
You just have to slug once, then spam click
fading vale
yeah they might as well delete the primary from agri
and just give it less powerful slugs
uncut scaffold
its still a shotgun
fading vale
not really
uncut scaffold
you a big revolver guy?
wraith helm
Is flakiac needed on everything?
buoyant pecan
why would I want a shotgun that sucks vs the others that dont suck
untold carbon
It might as well be a slug shotty with its stupid tight spread
north sedge
There is some exceptions to flaniac
fading vale
agri just wants to be something it's not
untold carbon
kant and lawbringer
Just wanna thank you again for Kantpilling me, it’s been a blast
buoyant pecan
listen man if your using your lil friend on enough maniacs you feel like you need an extra 25% for em, maybe just date different women
or men
untold carbon
But I’ve also got into the agri and columnas infantry auto guns as well lately
untold carbon
buoyant pecan
My gun isnt as good as my delusions claim it is therefore it is Illegal for me to enjoy it
north sedge
Yes the agri iag and braced are good
untold carbon
I absolutely love the agri iag
uncut scaffold
I'm trying to get something that can kill gunners since every vet I've gone with in pugs has decided that its my job
and my kant is just not cutting it honestly
fading vale
the columnus IAG is just funny with its fire rate and the fact it's also a brauto
wraith helm
Look, im just trying to figure out if the flak part is for gunners or the ridiculous flak maniacs
untold carbon
the columnus IAG is just funny with its fire rate and the fact it's also a braut...
Why’s that?
north sedge
Dive with your face
uncut scaffold
there are flak trash mobs right?
fading vale
Why’s that?
it's hipfire is very good and more accurate than columnus brauto and it also has like 60 ammo
minor sage
mine has 72 in the clip laz
fading vale
flak is the most common armor type
untold carbon
it's hipfire is very good and more accurate than columnus brauto and it also has...
So you’re better off not adsing with it?
fading vale
both ADS and hipfire work well
minor sage
so most ppl have 55-57
untold carbon
So the blessings I got on mine are Dum Dum and fire frenzy, are there better combinations?
fading vale
also has better crit scaling and chaining so crit perk actually works well, or if you have piety
uncut scaffold
Isn't "close range" like, absurdly close?
fading vale
So the blessings I got on mine are Dum Dum and fire frenzy, are there better com...
nah these are good, or deathspitter or raking fire over fire frenzy
8 meters
uncut scaffold
i cannot eyeball 8 meters
wraith helm
flak is the most common armor type
There are but you one shot most trash mobs. I wanted to know for a combat axe, is if the flak damage is for the gunners or the flak ragers
uncut scaffold
pretty sure my zealot is crosseyed
minor sage
it's pretty bad tbh lol
8m is tiny
I would prioritize dumdum, then the 2 perks
and the 2nd blessing last
fading vale
good for hipfiring elites up close
minor sage
ye but a lot less impactful than the other 3 stats
uncut scaffold
every perk is good for something
question is if that something is actually useful
untold carbon
I’ll stick with what I got for now and try for a better one once I climb out of plasteel poverty
What’s funny is it’s because of the twins that I got into the agri
Because my Kant wasn’t really cutting it against the elites
So I tried something else
agile pivot
Colomnus iag is way better than agri brauto
untold carbon
I’m using agri iag
agile pivot
Since you dont have to pray to the rngemperor to hit stuff with its useless braced mode
north sedge
You shouldn't be bracing it
uncut scaffold
so, standing in the middle of the meat grinder, agri shotty procs full bore against any mob while ads
without using the special
fading vale
agri brauto is bonkers
agile pivot
I genuinely can’t understand why
fading vale
I mean you don't like any guns
agile pivot
Ive tried mine on every build I have and it just feels like a paintball gun
awful ammo econ, terrible damage, blessings that require you to waste ammo on trash to make it passable as a ranged weapon
coarse hinge
so whats the best tree path nowadays for zealout, asking for a friend
fading vale
great ammo econ, amazing damage, good blessings
untold carbon
so, standing in the middle of the meat grinder, agri shotty procs full bore agai...
Yeah it’s spread is very tight
fading vale
tf you talking about
uncut scaffold
left gang turn up
fading vale
I can spam an agri brauto the whole damn game and never run out of ammo
agile pivot
tf you talking about
I am convinced my agri must be bugged or something because everyone talks it up constantly despite the weapon being completely useless
ember yew
Look, im just trying to figure out if the flak part is for gunners or the ridicu...
i saved this link to so long ago
fading vale
you are the only one who thinks this
agile pivot
It feels like a paperweight compared to the colomnus iag
fading vale
everyone else thinks it's insanely strong
agile pivot
It only feels passable after the perk above twbs procs
wraith helm
https://imgur.com/a/AR0Nxo4
I wasn't asking about that. I was asking about whether you take glad on melee for the flak maniacs or just for the gunners
uncut scaffold
Both?
what's a good gun to pair with hs4 and left side traits?
is the answer just always going to be columnus brauto
fading vale
you mean DS4?
violet hornet
or HS6?
violet hornet
I usually take something with armor pen if I can since HS doens't do great vs carapace in particular
Which used to be bolter but these days is usually the zarona revolver
fading vale
uh, really anything out of zarona revolver, brautos, IAGs, kant/lawbringer shotty, bolter kinda mid but you can make it work
as long as you are using chastise for ranged downgrade for crushers
it doesn't matter that much
frozen ibex
Chainaxe rips so hard got people asking about it. 
ember yew
Chainaxe rips so hard got people asking about it. <a:yesgryn:1024009817846710434...
they can just install the mod and inspect themselves
frozen ibex
violet hornet
Chainaxe rips so hard got people asking about it. <a:yesgryn:1024009817846710434...
I thought it was hype until I tried it and even just learning I was pulling crazy damage numbers
frozen ibex
I thought it was hype until I tried it and even just learning I was pulling craz...
It do be crazy. First game with it just testing the build and pulled 1 mil. 
north sedge
Can they also install the mod that lets them time travel so they don't have to ask?
frozen ibex
Can they also install the mod that lets them time travel so they don't have to a...
Just install time travel mod duh.
north sedge
fading vale
what exactly was the change that made chaxe so good
ember yew
It do be crazy. First game with it just testing the build and pulled 1 mil. <:wh...
did you use XII or the old one?
violet hornet
what exactly was the change that made chaxe so good
I think the attack speed and damage was buffed enough that heavies don't leave you as open to get attacked during anymore and lights aren't locking you in place long enough to be punished
frozen ibex
did you use XII or the old one?
IV. I don't like the new one.
north sedge
what exactly was the change that made chaxe so good
On the old one they changed the light animations to be more vertical so you don't get whiplash every 5 seconds, better dmg, being able to dodge out of rev is nice too
Both can one shot crushers without chastise
With a few buffs going of course
fading vale
Both can one shot crushers without chastise
that causes me physical pain
north sedge
They also happen to fuck up the twins pretty hard so nice timing there
fading vale
I was happy with hammer balance until they started making everything do what the hammer does but better
north sedge
I mean hammer is still king of unyielding
tropic hill
the CLAP
fading vale
sure
untold carbon
They also happen to fuck up the twins pretty hard so nice timing there
Yeah it was the weapon that I beat the twins with on hard
fading vale
but also so much shit deletes monstrosities now
not much melee besides hammer but
ranged
north sedge
I wouldn't mind things being scaled back for boss dmg/stagger
fading vale
at this point make the hammer also delete carapace or something, idk
frozen ibex
The old chainaxe light spam against elites is so visceral and cool now.
fading vale
power creep
drifting wolf
at this point make the hammer also delete carapace or something, idk
i haven't played hammer but it doesn't already do that?? gg
north sedge
Until they increased the hp
fading vale
i haven't played hammer but it doesn't already do that?? gg
it's incredibly difficult to 1 shot crushers without F
ember yew
what's the point of 2nd hammer, which has weaker charged attack? even with (recent) buffs i'm not sure what to do with it
frozen ibex
whats the actual zealot meta weapon
Combat axe with bm and columbus infantry autogun.
drifting wolf
better crowd control i think
fading vale
what's the point of 2nd hammer, which has weaker charged attack? even with (rece...
spam special more for cleave
and you don't have to learn to aim it
violet dragon
Combat axe with bm and columbus infantry autogun.
which axe you think?
fading vale
Rashad
frozen ibex
Rashad or antax your choice.
frozen ibex
Try the new knife too if you haven't. It's same same but slightly different.
violet dragon
i do enjoy the new knife
ive just been using a knife for too long i think
time to switch up le build
frozen ibex
Give chainaxe a try too. Not as good overall as combat axe but it's very visceral.
Khornate cultist.
violet dragon
Khornate cultist. <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
untold carbon
Combat axe is such a boring weapon that I don’t care how good it is, it puts me to sleep
light steppe
How I feel about most of the meta weapons tbh
frozen ibex
Just left click and win. 
light steppe
I've got my kentrael vet build for that
frozen ibex
Mfw fast light attack with 250+ damage and killing 4+ every hit.
untold carbon
Chainaxe, Evis, Thammer, Crusher are all much more engaging weapons to me
north sedge
They completely changed it
untold carbon
Yeah it’s pretty damn solid
light steppe
I'll give it a try tonight then
untold carbon
They completely changed it
Now only if they could give the Paul the same treatment 
light steppe
Last I remember it was just a kinda shit thunderhammer
north sedge
It's a combo weapon now that wants headshots
untold carbon
It’s also really easy to build one because it only has 4 blessings
light steppe
Huuuh?
north sedge
Special is just for occasional stagger
untold carbon
The only blessing that really matters for it is skullcrusher, all the others are impact blessings, with the best of them being hammerblow
still quartz
Probably one of the top Zealot weapons now
Criminally good at its job
And that's killing everything
north sedge
Light heavy is basic horde clear, push attack does a ton of finesse dmg, pa light heavy basic combo for crushers and the like
Can control elite packs
untold carbon
Oops all maulers
untold carbon
Least deranged ai director
still quartz
Fr
exotic portal
4th part of the traitor curse?
still quartz
I feel like those get spawned more often too if you're moving faster than the map expects you to
Anti-speedrunning measures
minor sage
Have they buffed it?
it's basically a monk staff now
that you can power up to knock stuff down
(is the design they were going with)
pretty cool
lots of combos as well
untold carbon
If the crusher could have brutal momentum that’d be crazy, but it’s still really damn good without it
north sedge
Does not need any of that shit
tropic harbor
Wait is crusher good now too?
still quartz
Yes
drifting wolf
very good
untold carbon
Paul has brutal momentum and it interacts pretty interestingly with powered heavies, headshot kills with a powered heavy makes all the enemies hit take the full damage of the powered swing
untold carbon
again it doesn’t need it, but it would be fun to make use of on the crusher
tropic harbor
Sweet
golden rain
Paul has brutal momentum and it interacts pretty interestingly with powered heav...
All weapons with Brutal Momentum do this, FYI.
untold carbon
Now I just have to wait for the Paul buff(in 3 years)
tropic harbor
Is there a weapon or build we all shit on now that crusher is good?
untold carbon
All weapons with Brutal Momentum do this, FYI.
I know, just makes powered swings on the Paul useful other than just stagger
north sedge
Knife still exists? Achlys, taxe
tropic harbor
Are knife revolver zealot teammates still a waste of space then?
still quartz
Depends
north sedge
Most of the time?
minor sage
Is there a weapon or build we all shit on now that crusher is good?
ye you may shit on smite psykers
i'll allow it
still quartz
If they're not running ahead and dying to 5 Poxwalkers because they don't know basic melee?
Yeah, waste of space
If opposite, usually you don't worry about Elites
tropic harbor
I say that but they always seem to carry my ass when I get paired with them
still quartz
Sometimes you get the good ones
Most times its newbies bringing their strats to the wrong difficulty
north sedge
I've had 3 good knife players ever since the game came out
tropic harbor
I will say, I played knife revolver on malice with some friends and it was pretty fun
still quartz
Yeah on Damnation, mileage can vary
You ain't gonna get top kills for hordes and such but good position management and enemy focus goes a long way
misty mason
So its chain weapons you want for the twins yeah? ATM the only chain weapons i like are the evisc, are they good for them?
still quartz
Evisc should be fine
still quartz
If anything the Elites that spawn are deadlier than the Twins
untold carbon
So its chain weapons you want for the twins yeah? ATM the only chain weapons i l...
Evis is fine but chainaxe demolishes em
misty mason
I dont think im gonna wind up doing hard mode cause I dont want to form a premade
heavy arch
just go to vox and say ur mic is broken
still quartz
Which twin yall usually kill firsy
north sedge
Ranged
light steppe
Plasma dude is probably easier to kill
still quartz
I know Rodin's got annoying bombs but Rinda...
That woman has mad sword skills
Hmm
heavy arch
cuz shes weaker to melee attacks
still quartz
Oops rip HP
heavy arch
so she goes down faster
north sedge
Only the shield
still quartz
^
wild apex
any good zealot bluids?
north sedge
And its the ranged guys shield that takes more melee
heavy arch
and then the worker bees do their thing bingo bango
amber sluice
is chorus of spiriutual fortitude just like amust have for a zealot? it feels so strong
and is flamer not good anymore?
hardy surge
is chorus of spiriutual fortitude just like amust have for a zealot? it feels ...
not a must
amber sluice
a lot of builds seem to be doing shotgun now but those were awful back when i stopped palying
hardy surge
and is flamer not good anymore?
flamer got mega nerfed a few patches ago
molten isle
flamer still feels strong idk about nerfs
light steppe
Flamer has felt less powerful for a couple patches
amber sluice
whats the best build right now? or a good one that uses eviserator?
wild apex
yes
light steppe
Maybe I just got bolter bias
north sedge
I would rank flamer well above bolter
molten isle
yeah me too lole
amber sluice
heard bolter got crushed recently
light steppe
Bolter feels more impactful, which is why I call it bias
light steppe
Flamer has zero feedback on hits, plus you can barely see what you're burning
molten isle
flamer will kill all the maulers in your screen for 20 ammo
light steppe
So yeh, numbers wise its better but bolter just feels so much better
amber sluice
is evis good now?
light steppe
Evisc has always been good
amber sluice
molten isle
now at least you can clear hordes with it
amber sluice
is that good?
light steppe
I've pretty much always used it since hitting 30 and I can't see much difference
north sedge
No evisc sucked before overhaul, now it is solid
molten isle
it's okay if you dont have anything better
light steppe
Activate still kills ragers dead
fading vale
sprint to flak and it's pretty decent
hardy surge
I wouldn't consider this a "slap in the wrist"
amber sluice
it's okay if you dont have anything better
best i got, whats so bad about it?
molten isle
best i got, whats so bad about it?
penetration is pretty low and the blessings are what you want but tier 3
it could be way better thats it
amber sluice
just tryin to get something to beat twins, my psyker is getting crushed
molten isle
well not way better, just a bit
fading vale
tier of savage doesn't really matter nor does the T3 vs t4 rampage
the biggest issue is unyielding perk I think but it's not a dead perk
molten isle
isnt rampage a bit more damage?
fading vale
32% vs 36%
north sedge
fading vale
is pretty small
amber sluice
is that a decent roll?
fading vale
is that a decent roll?
yes
native cargo
Yet the flamer can still do this despite people still thinking its nerfed beyond redemption v.v
tulip jasper
whats the common consensus on the tactical axe in general? 
fading vale
flamer is still incredibly strong
amber sluice
or is that better?
fading vale
it was barely nerfed
native cargo
whats the common consensus on the tactical axe in general? <:ASthink:58265681156...
The short version of it is taxe therefore destroy it cus I'm not paying taxes
fading vale
or is that better?
this is better
amber sluice
almost all 80s, pretty damn nice
fading vale
whats the common consensus on the tactical axe in general? <:ASthink:58265681156...
basically has no place because caxe exists
molten isle
ive been trying chainaxe lately and it feels a bit gross
hardy surge
taxe is fun in my opinion. but very lackluser
amber sluice
is evis/shotgun a good enough build for the twins?
molten isle
taxe sucks it does nothing well
tulip jasper
basically has no place because caxe exists
caxe quite a bit slower though 
taxe is good for horde clearing and i seem to be doing decent just smashing bosses with a flurry of swings
or is the attack speed not worth the damage lost
molten isle
caxes are better at dealing with hordes if you have brutal moment
fading vale
caxe is better at everything particularly because of BM and the damage for one shots, it's a bit slower but will do way more
north sedge
caxe is much better at horde
native cargo
Which caxe we talking about? There are a good few
fading vale
Rashad
native cargo
Never got into caxes
molten isle
rashad or antax
fading vale
Antax is good too, Rashad is just a straight upgrade
hardy surge
Taxe is better at running around. if you plan to do a lot of that.
molten isle
yeah rashad does the same damage but actually has finesse
native cargo
molten isle
also the new evisc kinda powercreeped the old one i think
amber sluice
decent?
tulip jasper
will try Rashad tomorrow then though i dont really run anything above malice 
so all in all might not matter too much
native cargo
also the new evisc kinda powercreeped the old one i think
I get it has more horde clear potential but honestly I just gotta chastise once and a horde is dead. Even if I have to go into another horde I just shove once and assuming no ragers are there I can just clear it
ez
molten isle
uhh
ripe quest
whats the common consensus on the tactical axe in general? <:ASthink:58265681156...
Malnourished. If you hit a bunch of BPs it's ok, best with something like Martyrdom.
native cargo
I'm talking about the new evis in the later part of the sentence
fading vale
will try Rashad tomorrow then <:ASthink:582656811568594945> though i dont really...
oh, taxe will work in malice, but we relate everything to damnation
tulip jasper
Taxe is better at running around. if you plan to do a lot of that.
i like spam dodging as i strafe around a boss just chopping away 
molten isle
I get it has more horde clear potential but honestly I just gotta chastise once ...
its better at both horde clear and elite damage i feel
ripe quest
also the new evisc kinda powercreeped the old one i think
Old one is better for crowds.
molten isle
i dunno about that to be fair
amber sluice
decent but bad perks, might as well replace sprint with flak or maniac
thanks, first time using a shotgun, is it for hoard or like elites/bosses?
molten isle
its faster? i dont really remember
hardy surge
nah, old evis is very solid still
molten isle
im not saying its bad im saying its worse
fading vale
flamer blessings and perks what do i need
blaze away for blessing, second blessing doesn't matter cause overpressure is bugged atm, and for perks elites/flak/unyielding
molten isle
at least thats what i felt
faint marsh
blaze away for blessing, second blessing doesn't matter cause overpressure is bu...
thank you very much
fading vale
thanks, first time using a shotgun, is it for hoard or like elites/bosses?
shotgun can do every role, sniping, hordes, mixed hordes, hipfiring elites
ripe quest
Old Evis and new Evis have been benchmarked so many times now. It's essentially old one clears crowds better, new one can 1 shot more stuff.
valid garden
guys I have a possible bug report and this shit only happens for my zealot; this is the 3rd day in a row my game has just crashed upon opening melk (it just reset) on my zealot. I have literally no idea why it's doing this and it is getting quite annoying. Also, melk consistently shits on my zealot (yes, lvl 30) but all my other lvl 30 classes are complimented. Why is this?
molten isle
melk shits on everyone
faint marsh
milkstore crashed the game for like a week now
molten isle
unless youre a vet
valid garden
fair enough
faint marsh
since i started playing
ripe quest
The lights on both Eviscerators are target capped, but the H1 on old Evis isn't. With damage increases it surpasses the new one's light spam.
faint marsh
the bug i want fixed is when people get thrown through the floor by chaos spawn
so fucking annoying to lose a teammate i could’ve easily revived
tulip jasper
thanks, first time using a shotgun, is it for hoard or like elites/bosses?
love using slug shotgun for just sniping specials at long range
molten isle
i never liked shotguns for bosses but they kinda just kill everything
ripe quest
thanks, first time using a shotgun, is it for hoard or like elites/bosses?
The Kantrael is really good as a generalist, it can soften hordes and elites with the special shot. It even pierces Bulwark shields. Primary does high damage as well.
molten isle
with chastise you 3 tap crushers
mental coral
molten isle
i mean they did join later didnt they
hardy surge
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/tc4weD3EdK
this channel in a nutshell
fading vale
I mean it's hard to say without a scoreboard
it's possible that person was just sitting in the back being slow and not contributing
light dust
Is having only 3 wounds on zealot good or nah
molten isle
special disablers and ranged elite kills should matter a bit more than damage
ripe quest
It's implied that it's a relic cdr build of some kind so I'm not entirely surprised they had the lowest damage.
minor sage
Is having only 3 wounds on zealot good or nah
no
you want either 2 wounds or 7 wounds
any other number is bad
amber sluice
holy SHIZ the kantrel shottie knocks the SHIZ outa guys
ripe quest
Toughness TDR can use a mix of Wound and Toughness curios.
light dust
you want either 2 wounds or 7 wounds
seven??? 💀💀
mental coral
Is having only 3 wounds on zealot good or nah
I mean if you are new it’s okay to have one wound extra for the safety net
fading vale
holy SHIZ the kantrel shottie knocks the SHIZ outa guys
it's very good
molten isle
wound builds are very strong
light dust
I mean if you are new it’s okay to have one wound extra for the safety net
My zealot is lvl 30
tulip jasper
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/tc4weD3EdK
i mean, i am happy when resident psyker stuns a massive horde with lightning to allow for easy clears
fading vale
seven??? 💀💀
martyrdom
mental coral
I’ve also seen the 4 wound (+2 wound from Marty tree) 3 toughness curios build but no clue how good that is compared to 7 wounds
light dust
He has 3 wounds and 320 Hp
fading vale
you don't really require 7 wounds with marty, 5 or 6 is fine too with another curio
mental coral
My zealot is lvl 30
Well 30 doesn’t mean much. Just do you go down enough to warrant taking an extra wound
ripe quest
I’ve also seen the 4 wound (+2 wound from Marty tree) 3 toughness curios build b...
It's just tanky. Fun in a premade that can play off of it. When I do it with randoms I've been settling on 1x Toughness 2x Wounds.
mental coral
Do you eat shit and go down more than once before a medicae often
amber sluice
it's very good
im throwing huge ogrryn elites and bosses around
acoustic parrot
If I'm playing Matyrdom Zealot, is it better to have Max HP perks on my curios or Max Toughness?
light dust
Do you eat shit and go down more than once before a medicae often
No not rlly most missions I go without my toughness being broken
mental coral
It's just tanky. Fun in a premade that can play off of it. When I do it with ran...
🤔 cuz I just run all wounds but idk if that’s actually better than increasing base toughness
fading vale
If I'm playing Matyrdom Zealot, is it better to have Max HP perks on my curios o...
why not both?
molten isle
If I'm playing Matyrdom Zealot, is it better to have Max HP perks on my curios o...
as secondary perks you can have both
then sniper or gunner damage
fading vale
gunner resist is best
molten isle
snipers do funky shit sometimes
molten isle
and getting quickscoped at 50hp is pretty dangerous
acoustic parrot
I'd prefer to choose just one as I like having other perks, but ok.
molten isle
yeah 2 gunner 1 sniper is what i go
mental coral
The psyker guide maker insists on taking toughness regen perk and gunners being B tier
fading vale
there aren't any other perks worth mentioning
amber sluice
shotgun can do every role, sniping, hordes, mixed hordes, hipfiring elites
wow they really buffed thhem
molten isle
if anything theyre nerfed iirc
molten isle
has kantrael been dodging nerfs for months now?
fading vale
they were all buffed
amber sluice
whats the special fire on the kantrel shoty do?
molten isle
just fire
mental coral
Infinite cleave stacks fire
fading vale
whats the special fire on the kantrel shoty do?
infinite cleave 6 stacks of burn, cleaves bulwarks
molten isle
it can kill bulwarks at ease
amber sluice
is it a mode shift or a single shot?
molten isle
but i dont think it does a lot
fading vale
single
amber sluice
ah
fading vale
you need to shoot twice to max burn stacks
amber sluice
i was throwing bullworks around liek rag dolls just blasting them lol
fading vale
for a mixed horde with bulwarks especially just blast 2 or 3 special shots
they will die
maybe 4 depending on how wide the horde is
olive raven
The psyker guide maker insists on taking toughness regen perk and gunners being ...
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