zealot-class

[next trench]

7443344801

the plan is to do the twins?

with low hp

[glass pelican]

yea

we got to the end

i have a ogryn with me

he is doing the damage

we focus on crowd control

[next trench]

my job is crowd?

just so i know what to take

[glass pelican]

crowd/dealing damage to the boss when the shield is down

we died cause we got overwelmed at the end

[next trench]

we have to kill the gun dude first

[glass pelican]

ye

we didn't have issues till the end

[next trench]

ah shit

i think i should have brought the eviscerator

its fine

[glass pelican]

this ogryn destroys shields

you will see

idk what stats he has on his gun

but shit melts the shield

[limpid radish]

so the shotgun is for ranged prio target sniping and using fire ammo on the bulwarks?

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

If you don't have a good revolver or just really hate bulwarks

Like

REALLY

Hate em

[prime ridge]

Gentlemen, Opinions on the new Evis?

[sharp zodiac]

Great

Kinda slow feeling but it's really good on single target in contrast to the old

[dense field]

It's very good

[prime ridge]

I feel like the rev hit chunks faster, too

or is that imagination

[sharp zodiac]

Well the old is a lot better at that but the new one is good at it too

But

They have a cleave cap at 4 but can still stagger

So kinda both

[prime ridge]

but you dont even really need to rev it to deal with armor

[sharp zodiac]

Well

The non revved heavy is very good on the easier to kill elites and specials

But the revved is better on the beefier ones

[prime ridge]

Its faster ttk, but the heavy works well when you're kiting around

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[prime ridge]

Like the scab ragers and maulers have not at all been a problem for me since I got this guy

[limpid radish]

so revolver > shotgun for sniping, but the shotgun has the anti bulwark trick?

[sharp zodiac]

Yeah

[prime ridge]

Revolver is my beloved.

[sharp zodiac]

Ye can always give the two a run and see which ye prefer

[copper hawk]

yum

memory leak

[open echo]

is this fine?

[hollow moth]

Wish I could rename my zealot

[prime ridge]

Even a okish revolver like this is great for dealing with incoming armor, snipers, and trappers, pennerboy

[hollow moth]

His name is Victor
After Saltzpyre
I didn't know it's one of the randomized names

[limpid radish]

but you can set bulwarks on fire with the shotgun, you know ^^

[prime ridge]

I don't need that trick

I simply got gud

[limpid radish]

are those stas okay or should i keep on rolling for a better one to upgrade? what is the stat prio here? Damage > Penetraion = Cleave Targets = Shredder > Mobility?

[prime ridge]

Mk 2 or 15?

[limpid radish]

15

[prime ridge]

its servicable, but I would seek better penetration

[limpid radish]

revolver wise, i only got this one

[prime ridge]

definitely seek another revolver

[next trench]

colummus rifle > ogryn big gun xD

[glass pelican]

So for all zealots

easy way to get the fflesh wound penance

play the twins on heresy

"easy"

we nearly died

brazuka saved the day

legend

[limpid radish]

thats why i am running with this shotgun atm till i get a decent revolver to try out 🙂

[steep igloo]

I literally had more coherency efficiency yet the brainrot still took hold, dude thought I took more than one heal then started knife discriminating me

Why are randoms like this?

[prime ridge]

did you teleport to the end and tank a few hits?

[glass pelican]

Nah

did the mission fully on heresy

the twins died fairly quick

[prime ridge]

I've been meaning to go for that penance, but I can never find anyone to run a private game with

[glass pelican]

i just asked here if someone else wanted to join

you were too late

sad

we had 1 more spot

[next trench]

what saved us in the end was that i manged to get the twins shield down while running lol

and they got stunned to revive us

scary af

[glass pelican]

if you want to in maybe a hour i can help you

you need to find 1 or 2 more people tho

i'll go ogryn

[prime ridge]

Hey braz

You wanna engage in some psychopathy again in an hour

[next trench]

what kind of psychopathy

[prime ridge]

Another flesh wound run

[next trench]

do ye blabber about kin

could do another i guess

doing this is a pain

if you dont do this way

[prime ridge]

I mean heresy doing it on one of the early missions would be fairly easy barring wild spawns

I just haven't gone for it before

I really should have done it when the suicide trick worked

[next trench]

suicide trick?

[lean lark]

if you had +ordo/+exp perk curios

[prime ridge]

on release you could pop barrels to get hp low and wait for a bit before suiciding

[lean lark]

oh nvm

wrong one

[next trench]

does anyone know why this steam window is huge

wanted to buy an outfit

cant interact with the window lol

[sharp zodiac]

The wall

[next trench]

ah changed resolution and now it works

[summer tree]

I wonder what the clear rate of the Karnak twins on the special difficulty (in a non-premade) is

Probably not very high

[ripe quest]

5% max

Most people are just gonna play the game casually so shit like hard-mode-actually-think-mode is gonna be really challenging.

[maiden path]

does anyone ahve that mod load order mod

[prime ridge]

You mean play ogryn mode?

[prime ridge]

DM me when you're ready

[limpid radish]

is this one better?

[prime ridge]

That's a decent one, yeah

[fleet zealot]

rip that shredder

[limpid radish]

so i can consider shredder as s dump stat?

[prime ridge]

looks a lot like mine

[fleet zealot]

noooo

mobility is the dump stat

[prime ridge]

Shredder is by no means a dump stat, but you can get around a lower shredder

[limpid radish]

so dmg> penetration=cleave=shredder >mobility?

[steel agate]

I love reading what the modifiers do so I know what’s a dump stat or not

[prime ridge]

Cleave is meh cause I believe it has a hard cap

[steel agate]

Inspect command my beloved

[fleet zealot]

cleave targets is lower prio on new evi

since it does have a hard cap

[limpid radish]

dmg>penetration=shredder>cleave targets > mobility

[glass pelican]

i'm good now

any zealots here want to get the flesh wound penance?

[limpid radish]

me 🙂

[glass pelican]

alright spot for 1 more

@prime ridge you good for it?

just opened the game

[hardy surge]

hey still looking for one?

[glass pelican]

Ye

waiting on midas

[hardy surge]

ill join

[glass pelican]

he was the one that wanted help

[open echo]

suggestions?

[hardy surge]

oh ok

[glass pelican]

i'll go ogryn since i got mine already

[hardy surge]

well please let me know if I can join

[glass pelican]

Yea you can

gonna do the twins on heresy

[maiden path]

lord forgive me i kind of want the rogue trader zealot outfit

[glass pelican]

let me invite

[sharp zodiac]

I'd swap the node just before the Keystone

[prime ridge]

hey im back

[glass pelican]

k

got a full party

so

we good

me and 2 more

[maiden path]

lord forgive me im buying the rogue trader zealot outfit

shit 2 drippy

[glass pelican]

so just waiting on you

[torn stream]

I'd recommend finding some points somewhere to nab the Toughness restore on dodge near the top of the tree, it's REALLY good in my experience

[glass pelican]

my man what is your code

or join my strike team

[torn stream]

Also yeah swap the pre-keystone node

[open echo]

using the new evic that has a terrible dodge distance

[limpid radish]

send you a dm

[prime ridge]

i assume the code in your name is the fatshark code, diabeto?

[glass pelican]

ye

[torn stream]

I use it with Thunder Hammer, it's about the principle of the thing more than the actual dodge distance

Like you can always dodge stuff like Crusher overheads, Shotgunner shots, and Rager combos even without a fast weapon

And it smooths things out so much

[open echo]

eh

[open echo]

any clue what i could swap for it?

[north sedge]

i mean, th still dodges better than evisc

[torn stream]

I'd remove the Attack Speed near the middle keystone and the cleave damage at the top left to get it, personally

[torn stream]

Sure, but you can always dodge stuff like a Crusher overhead or Shotgunner shots

Esp since stuff like sprint-sliding also counts as dodging iirc

[placid berry]

which zealot melee is best for quickly dispatching elites

[dense karma]

ok

[cunning zodiac]

This worth grabbing?

[cursive mirage]

What should I swap out on this shotgun

[covert needle]

reload speed/ carapace -> maniac damage, deathspitter -> full bore?

[clear notch]

rashad caxe

[subtle cedar]

Old chainaxe

[glass pelican]

so just tried it with other 3 players here

skip to the final twins

get hit by a bomber

beat the twins

easy penance

[limpid radish]

yo, really nice strat!

[vast basin]

Yeah the new mission makes just a flesh wound very simple

[gray ice]

Change perks to flak/maniac, blessings are good. If you haven't changed anything yet, that is

[glass pelican]

it really does

[hardy surge]

@glass pelicanthanks ❤️

[glass pelican]

if someone here wants some help with it i can help a couple of people later

i'll go ogryn

and just taunt the boss

[glass pelican]

np

i was trying to get that penance for weeks

so i know how it feels

[hardy surge]

I've been playing since beta, been ignoring the now redacted penances for my sanity. but it is nice clearing jotting one out.

[glass pelican]

i gave up on the psyker ones

[hardy surge]

I'll gladly help you get them whenever

[glass pelican]

Maybe one day

if i feel like playing psyker

i don't like psyker or veteran that much

[prime ridge]

heh

I like psyker, but the redacted penances are something else

like not get while you play penances, gotta actively seek them

[glass pelican]

yup

i only got the ogryn and zealot redacted penances down

i ain't interested that much in the psyker or vet ones

[hot thunder]

You doing another flesh wound run?

[glass pelican]

if anyone needs the help sure

try and get more people if you can

[hot thunder]

i join if we find 2 others

Anybody needs the flesh wound penance?

[boreal totem]

what should I do with this one... don't want to mess it up

[cursive mirage]

Also I just got this as a drop, what should I swap on it

[stoic harbor]

Just a general question, how do you guys deal with rager packs?

[glass pelican]

i stare at them

[spark ember]

its finally happening

[glass pelican]

and die

[velvet path]

Is the new chainaxe good?

[stoic harbor]

on my ogryn ragers are angry guys that fall over, but I find them really threatening as a zealot

[spark ember]

its fine

[stoic harbor]

Using the evis, it can deal with one or two but when there's ten

[spark ember]

heavy, back dodge, heavy, back dodge

if its a new evi ofc...

[stoic harbor]

yeah, mk15

[spark ember]

or u can just use chastise to stun them all

and swing lights

also stun nade and rev if u want to soften them up

idk there is many ez ways to deal with a pack of ragers 🙂

[strange moon]

I love it it’s amazing

[livid siren]

https://tenor.com/view/khorne-warhammer40k-warhammer-berserker-gif-16784535

[potent crescent]

Question, what’s the best keystone for Psyker? I can’t make up my mind because all of them look kinda boring :/

[strange moon]

You may be in the incorrect channel but I like the right side one for memes/gunker, left side one for reliable bubbles

I don’t really run middle that’s kinda boring to me

[misty raven]

That would depend on your build.

I like left for smite, middle for BB/assail, and right for assail gun psyker

[placid fiber]

Wait... this isn't the psyker channel?!

[misty raven]

Nope we magic vets

[polar nexus]

It's psyker chat 2 here

[placid fiber]

[strange moon]

With how fast gunker moves basically a zealot right

Just squishier

[misty raven]

Only way I kept up with 3 knife zealots 1 game

[strange moon]

Zooming

[unborn depot]

Does anyone know if the two evisc types share the same BiS blessings

[potent crescent]

Wait

Oh fuck wrong channel

So so sorry ;-;

[sharp zodiac]

I think so

[strange moon]

You just wanted the opinion of melee freaks

[sharp zodiac]

Since both benefit from rampage, SS, shred etc

[north sedge]

sweep is not as good on new one

[placid fiber]

tfw you get a sudden craving for peanut butter... :/

[sharp zodiac]

That's the only difference I've met since it isn't as good as horde clearing as the old one

[north sedge]

do rampage + preference

[unborn depot]

You are forgiven, sparky head

[unborn depot]

What's your recommendation?

[polar nexus]

With KD, stamina, deflector, peril Dr.... You can become tanky veeeeerry fast

[placid fiber]

we literally talk about pretty much everything here, hehe

[north sedge]

if you want dmg, shred or bloodthirsty, first one is more general, 2nd can get you some chain rev kills on elites, though it becomes a bit whack a mole

[next trench]

we did a whole malice maelstrom with a bot 💀

[strange moon]

For a slightly more limited time than zealot though given zealot’s near constant dr when in fray

[placid fiber]

2.5k damage on malice...

I see dat ogryn lol

[untold carbon]

Recently started using the agri and columnas infantry auto guns, they’re a shit ton of fun

[misty raven]

It lacks a heavy sweep but I feel pretty competent with brain dead light spamming a horde

[polar nexus]

I miss infinite dodges. I used to do less than 100 DMG taken in Damn :/

[placid fiber]

1 thing that helps, sort of, with avoiding damage is treating every hit like it is lethal >.>'

that's more of a vt2 scarring me type of thing, tho... <.<'

[misty raven]

Took me a bit. Only because when hearing the attack noise and just trying to keep sprinting through and it not working and irritating me

[placid fiber]

It took me a bit to get good at avoiding attacks well, rather than only panic dodging

[sage swan]

Take one hit on cata from a lucky blackrat and there goes 80% of your health bar...

[glass pelican]

So how viable is the boltgun

i never really used it

[placid fiber]

Yeah... my vt2 experience made vt1 a lot easier, tho, lol

[sage swan]

Boltgun is great, it's only issues are reloading and pulling the damn thing out of your pockets

[glass pelican]

what blessings are good on a boltgun

[sage swan]

If you don't mind either of those, it can shred bosses, obliterate every ogryn, and still be accurate enough to pop a sniper from a mile away

[uncut sapphire]

thanks Emprah

[sage swan]

Hmm... pins seem to be unusable on mobile now lol

[glass pelican]

sounds neat

[dense karma]

why does this level 100+ zealot have shock and awe on his thammer

deliberately put on too

slaughterer/shock and awe

[sage swan]

Check the pins for blessings on stuff, i think it was pinning fire and... Shattering impact

Those two blessings

[dense field]

Alright, now I have to kill the twins with randoms.

[sage swan]

I mean, i don't think shock and awe is bad, it's just not as good as thrust... or headtaker

[dense field]

It's bad

Memeishly bad

[sage swan]

I'm still trying to do pubs in the hard mode, which will be probably impossible

I should just go in the voice channels and find a group willing to do it, but man...

sometimes it's fun clutching shit out in pubs

[dense field]

Sometimes it is

[vestal oyster]

What do you guys think is more valuable in orthus offensive hardmode, zealot or psyker

[quiet turret]

Zealot, psyker lacks the damage imo

[dense field]

Also the new evi is great for that fight

[vestal oyster]

I was having a really hard time in there with Psyker, so much so that I made a zealot alt lol

It’s almost capped now

[dense field]

Zealot, hands down

[sage swan]

like when i was helping a couple ogryns and a psyker, managed to res one of the ogryns against two bosses by downing the gunner, baiting the melee to a slash far away from me, and dropping a stun grenade

[quiet turret]

Ogryn is number 1 imo for hardmode

[sage swan]

I got so much praise for that, felt really good...

[quiet turret]

you can tank the gas phase infinitely and your ranged weapons shred the twins

[north sedge]

Both work well

[sage swan]

Psyker has it's uses though, smite is great for that fight, and deimos force sword does great damage

[north sedge]

Shield is great

[dense field]

Smite is not *that* great

[sage swan]

It's good when you want to get 4 crushers and 9 ragers off of your gunner ogryn

[dense field]

So is a stunstorm grenade

[vestal oyster]

Plus yeah like voidstrike staff is great and all but zealot revolver is so crisp

I can take out any elite I want with a quick draw

[sage swan]

Yeah but you get 3 of those, and smite is infinite

[dense field]

Smite is not infinite.

[vestal oyster]

Both classes definitely have their uses but I’m really finding it hard to not play zealot this patch

[delicate shadow]

I've never felt the need to use smite on psyker, I just use my staff if I need an aoe

or assail I suppose, assail is still good

[dense field]

And the psyker is kinda disabled too during the smiting

[buoyant owl]

By hard mode do you mean auric maelstrom?
Not overly hard

[dense field]

Hard mode twins

[strange moon]

Yeah same 😔 but Deimos two tapping crushers/making them fall on their asses is hilarious

[sage swan]

I don't mean Auric maelstrom, i mean orthus/twins fight on the secret hard mode

[vestal oyster]

And hordes are spawning literally everywhere so you start smiting one screen and another just comes up behind you

[dense field]

yep

[vestal oyster]

It was infuriating

[dense field]

and you're stuck because of smite

[prisma sigil]

Smite psyker is pretty great for HM twins you just need to be fluid

dont get stuck

[dense field]

And you really don't need infinite amount of stuns, the fight is like four phases. Elites are only problematic during the latter three.

[sage swan]

I still need to try the new evis for the fight, just been too busy

[prisma sigil]

New evis is really good

[dense field]

IT'S FANTASTIC

[prisma sigil]

Idk about for the fight

But it's awesome

[vestal oyster]

Mk15 is what we’re talking about right??

What makes it so different than the mk2?

[dense field]

I just cleared the HM with it

[royal sierra]

any saving this dagger?

[dense field]

Mk15 overhead heavies hit HARD

[sage swan]

Oh i know it's good, i used exe sword in vt2 Plenty, I've just heard that a revved heavy vs the gunner barrier one shots it

[spark ember]

finally i got it D:

[next trench]

remove lacerate and maybe sprint?

[spark ember]

damn i like green color XD

[next trench]

i think?

[dense field]

When you pop the shield on a twin, a single rev overhead+chastise instantly removes 1/4 of their healthbar

[strange moon]

Revved heavy thrust new chainaxe does one tap the barrier which is

[spark ember]

Lacerate -> uncanny, sprint -> flak

[strange moon]

So nice

[royal sierra]

flesh tearer better than lacerate?

[dense field]

And they start the gas phase

[sage swan]

That knife is fine, i don't know why everyone hates Lacerate

[strange moon]

Ngl I like lacerate over flesh tester

[spark ember]

yes

[dense field]

because you want to hit weak spots only

[untold carbon]

The brap phase

[dense field]

that's right

[spark ember]

its do not synergize with the knife vibe in total, with knife u want always to aim at weak spots, where lacerate do not work

[delicate shadow]

bleed in general is shit damage for the most part, and knife damage is also shit if you aren't critting, weakspotting or ideally both

[strange moon]

Idc about hitting heads when I just want ability up asap tbh I want faster crits

So immediate bleed is useful in that space

[delicate shadow]

and most knife blessings want headshots anyway, like uncanny

[spark ember]

bleed is bad 😦

[delicate shadow]

and if you're not taking uncanny then idk what to tell you, at that point we're debating fun, not effectiveness

[dense field]

What do you use your ability for?

[strange moon]

I stab them in the back 👍

[dense field]

Usually it's damage, toughness, stagger

[sage swan]

I'd take Lacerate and Rending on backstab, but that's because i like the free 30% crit from the one talent, getting me 50% crit from blazing piety faster, getting me crazy amounts of cooldown, so i can either spam stealth, or spam Chorus

[dense field]

So if already do damage you don't need it up as often

and you're safe because your enemies are dead

[delicate shadow]

that is actually pretty bad considering knife heavies to the head can borderline one hit them and all of that damage you're doing is mostly rending

[spark ember]

show me...

[sage swan]

Oh i should get a good roll on the new knife before trying to get a better evis mk15

I'm not sure who I want to get the new chainsword on... I'm thinking my melee veteran build would like it best

[hardy surge]

perks for this?

[strange moon]

Dropping aggro for immediate ability uptime and then subsequent ability to pick off targets is more valuable to me tbh

[spark ember]

also bleed deals pretty decent dmg to bosses, if there is no boss hunters on team

[sage swan]

It's good passive damage

[spark ember]

flak maniak sweep -> headtaker

ah nvm yeah blessing are locked..

[next trench]

it seems good the way it is

[cerulean pike]

you don't want crit chance

on a weapon

[dense field]

Then you should probably switch to the devil's claw w shred

[hardy surge]

crit to maniac?

[cerulean pike]

Yeah

[next trench]

ah wait its not locked

[cerulean pike]

crit chance as a perk is garbage

[strange moon]

That doesn’t one tap crushers/bulwarks

[ornate bone]

Guys

[spark ember]

yes

[hardy surge]

thanks

[dense field]

crit damage is worse

[ornate bone]

I thought it was just a devil of my own making

But they do exist

[sage swan]

Everyone thought bleed was busted, then they nerfed the damage cap by 25 per tic, now it's trash again

[ornate bone]

They do exist

[cerulean pike]

bleed was only busted on release

[dense field]

But you can parry them do death

[next trench]

on auric it feels like im always out of ammo without that

[ornate bone]

How do I delete the browser history from my brain

What do I do to make the pain go away

[coarse birch]

what do you need for the crusher one/2 tap parry kill these days anyway

[cerulean pike]

you can't

[strange moon]

This is not relevant to me though

[cerulean pike]

crusher one tap was because of hand-cannon

[coarse birch]

cause base on psyker it takes like 10 parries to kill them lol

oh that makes sense

actually

[cerulean pike]

crusher one tap on claw was always cause of hand-cannon

just straight up 80% rending on a parry

[dense field]

You can one-tap one (1) crusher at a time. That's not a lot of impact.

[next trench]

maaaaan so close to greatnesss

[vestal oyster]

Should I make the zealot rat knife build?

[cerulean pike]

quick answer: no

[vestal oyster]

Actually that’s not even a question I’m doing it

[delicate shadow]

I ain't hopping on DT to just record melting crushers faster lol

People have been debating bleed knife for ages now find the stuff in the discord yo

[vestal oyster]

We are the rats

[hardy surge]

rat knife?

[dense field]

rat zealot

steal all the things

steal-steal

[hardy surge]

oh lol

[vestal oyster]

Go fast, be sneaky

[cerulean pike]

yeah there's already been quite a few videos on rending knife being just straight up better than bleed

[vestal oyster]

Stealth revives

[strange moon]

Why aren’t you just playing plasma vet or voidstrike psyker if that’s your goal lol

[spark ember]

right, obviously u dont...

[dense field]

ALWAY SNEAKING-STABBING

[strange moon]

That’s way more impactful

[vocal pulsar]

throwing my hat in the ring

[hardy surge]

yesyesyes

[vocal pulsar]

bleed knife is a joke

[cerulean pike]

it's like doing full damage on a crusher is better than watching tiny bleed stacks tick away for like 10 seconds

[delicate shadow]

like you can hit 100% rending with uncanny still, precog will give you an extra 50%+ finesse damage, if you're zealot you'll have duellist

also bleed damage is super low on carapace and so think about how rending is affecting that and then realise the knife heavies that scale way harder will do more

[fleet zealot]

^

but have you considered

[spark ember]

until u show me proof i choose to ignore all your arguments 🙂

[fleet zealot]

All I did was post my fucking build and y’all went for my throat talking down on it like a bunch of toxic trolls you didn’t have to say anything if u don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say anything but naw y’all wanna be animals like every other troll and thru the safety of the internet you run your mouth and then talk smack about me it’s ridiculous and not fair of anyone to treat some one like that and u have the audacity to say I’m going thru somthing nah you and all the other trolls like you need to get over what your going thru and act right

[hardy surge]

Lacerate is a top tier blessing though and you can't change my mind

[dense field]

Why don't you?

[cerulean pike]

You'd think bleed knifers aren't brainlet enough to consider common sense

but here we are

[delicate shadow]

like y'all are literally posting clips of killing crushers with the weakest options on knife vs carapace, so idk why it's a big leap of logic to realise the attacks that do scale well vs carapace are gonna do it faster lmao

[spark ember]

still cant see a proof

[dense field]

Stabbing is fun, but I stab with a combat axe

[coarse birch]

lacerate is probably the worst bleed blessing imo

[hidden nacelle]

based

[cerulean pike]

lacerate is definitely the worst bleed blessing

[fleet zealot]

you need medications

[strange moon]

Because im more capable of benefiting the team and rescuing bad situations on stealth knife zealot alongside dealing with gun lines/specials/etc

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-block-parry-dodge-block-parry-dodge-gif-25053870

[fleet zealot]

flesh tearer is just better

[vocal pulsar]

40 seconds to kill a few crushers is terrible

[cerulean pike]

flesh tearer works on both non and weakspot hits

and you're gonna be hitting a crit like most times anyways

[fleet zealot]

knife and knife builds have high asf crit chance

[lusty turtle]

Wait people are only now realizing knife bad at damage

[vocal pulsar]

also that's 40 seconds in a perfect flat environment

withotu anything to stop/interrupt you

[livid siren]

post the dreg rager reaction

[hardy surge]

nah, Lacerate guarantees a fast Scourge buildup. worth it for the crit chance

[delicate shadow]

no lol

[fleet zealot]

and you want to be aiming for weakspots always with knife cause it has high finesse and builds around it buff weakspot

[spark ember]

30, but show me how its done...

[lusty turtle]

Also hi zealot chat i survived surgery

[vocal pulsar]

chaxe

[coarse birch]

yeah if you arent weakspotting with knife

[livid siren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1185876678946340894/ragerreaction.gif?ex=659134b8&is=657ebfb8&hm=3d0846e2eac37dbe4a9095f3ffaac6e2f8733b1812a5133ad30d0d9fa3965f74&

[coarse birch]

it will feel like shit

[cerulean pike]

Ya know what I'ma steal a mamox clip for this

[spark ember]

we are talking about bleed knife vs non bleed knife

[fleet zealot]

omg this is the clip bro this is jsut worse than normal knife

[vocal pulsar]

still

[pearl valve]

oi get rest not cruise on zealot chat stinky

[vocal pulsar]

uncanny is the way to go

[spark ember]

if u have no clue what are we talking about why the fuckdo u even trying to incline

[vocal pulsar]

i have 1600 hours in this game

[fleet zealot]

go uncanny+ precog, 100% faster

[vocal pulsar]

most "experts" would agree that uncanyn is the way to go

[cerulean pike]

man look at all that damage knife does to a boss without needing bleed

[fleet zealot]

why the fuckdo u even trying to incline

[vocal pulsar]

and not bleed

[fleet zealot]

[hardy surge]

the thing is that you don't go for continuous body hits. you go for a couple of body hits when initiating combat then go for weakspot. go down to a couple of body shots every combat downtime. it does work

[lusty turtle]

You cant stop me

[fleet zealot]

that's still not right

[spark ember]

all i can see is only bla-bla-bla and zero proof

[fleet zealot]

because you don't even need to go for body hits at all

[coarse birch]

theres not much reason to not be going for weakspot hits with knife

or most things

[next trench]

the hell are these icons

[pearl valve]

yeah I can

@severe patrol @delicate shadow ban this man so he goes to sleep and gets his rest after surgery

[fleet zealot]

The proof is in the pudding do I need to pull out the damage calculator to please you?

[cerulean pike]

yeah but you also can do the same body hits with flesh tearer and get 14 stacks instead of a dinky 6

[lusty turtle]

[hidden nacelle]

another day of high octane chat about bleed knife

[cerulean pike]

like

[delicate shadow]

I got it

[coarse birch]

it is an eternal discussion

[spark ember]

i do give zero fk about your calculator and your numbers in spreadsheet, show me the proof

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/smack-rick-grimes-shovel-season1-gif-14559596

[hidden nacelle]

quick everyone whats the color of ur toothbrush

[coarse birch]

the calculator is literally

[lusty turtle]

[coarse birch]

the damage it will do

[north sedge]

Knife is funny because its mid tier at best people fucking love talking about it to death

[hardy surge]

flesh tearer is not guaranteed though. so it slows scourge by a lot.

[cerulean pike]

im also gonna just use this, though it's new knife

[coarse birch]

its actually better than i thought

if you use uncanny

[cerulean pike]

you're a knife build. it's going to hit pretty much all the time

[delicate shadow]

@spark ember there ya go nerd

[vocal pulsar]

arcotash aesthetic

[cerulean pike]

Like, if you're not critting as a knife build you'd doing something wrong

i mean, if you're using a knife build you're also doing something wrong but

if you're gonna use a knife build might as well make it actually useful

[spark ember]

its a vet, and its a one crushers, i am waiting to see how u deal with 6 of them at once

[severe patrol]

I remember playing the Twins fight for the first time and we all died and this fucking knife zealot kept swinging at the twins for 6 minutes straight before he finally died after barely doing any damage, I was just sipping coffee and wheezing half the time 💀

[daring blaze]

Excuse me???

[delicate shadow]

dodging is kinda easy in this game lol

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-driving-car-cute-gif-16109266

[fleet zealot]

and that is nothing including talents and shit

[cerulean pike]

You kill a crusher in two hits.
You multiply that but like 6 and a crusher pack is dead

• you having to spend 30 seconds reapplying stacks while there's a horde

[delicate shadow]

dealing with multiple elites

[cerulean pike]

Fucking goofy ass

[spark ember]

show me...

[delicate shadow]

is not hard

[coarse birch]

you literally would fight the crusher pack the same way you would with bleed

except for half the time

[cerulean pike]

Bro really is acting like a darcy clone now but for zealots

God damn

Kill that man

[fleet zealot]

#zealot-class message bruh

[lusty turtle]

[fleet zealot]

darcy clones escaping containment

[spark ember]

i already said i am waiting to see 6 of them at once, running at you

[delicate shadow]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1GAgL5pRVmvw38/mdqddxOynMcL?invite=cr-MSx6Z04sMTkxMjMwNzQ0LA

dodging crushers is not hard

[untold carbon]

Shows proof, “Nuh uh that’s not right!”

[tropic harbor]

This is amazing

[spark ember]

is that so hard for you make a video of you killing 6 crushers?

i dont get it

[fleet zealot]

hey guys if oyu don't go through my narrow goal posts and waste your time, I'm not wrong

[severe patrol]

When you successfully dodge it is fine but when you get overhead attacked + insta downed its somehow the game's fault and not yours

[fleet zealot]

fucking ben shapeepo college of debate

[tropic harbor]

I don’t wanna play style shame but damn that’s hilarious

[delicate shadow]

fatshark pls I dodged, ignore the giant hammer lodged in my ribs ty

[spark ember]

speaking shit as always...

[cerulean pike]

bro really is right wing pilled of "I don't need to show my evidence, you need to show YOUR evidence"

[severe patrol]

I have learned not to be salty at bullshit AI because I am the kind of masochist girl thats been playing Expert L4D2 for like years before this 💀

[delicate shadow]

bro the video you posted isn't even a fight, it's psykhanium lmao

[severe patrol]

Love Charger's basic melee attack doing 15dmg to my 100 health pool

[spark ember]

do it the same way, what the problem?

[drifting wolf]

witch hunter captain experience

[delicate shadow]

I can't be assed recording a video when you're obvs working in bad faith lmao

[fleet zealot]

hey guys, go in psykanium and kill 6 crushers and then I will probably find a way to say I'm not taking the L anyways

[delicate shadow]

also watch the link I posted, I obvs can dodge elites

it's actually

[fleet zealot]

you literally see a crusher get 2 hit, multiply that by 6

[hardy surge]

you are not critting "all the time" with knife. Scourge has to build up. Fury has to build up. If you luck out on crits at first you 1 hit a couple of enemies but your scourge gest stuck in zero half the fight. Going for a few lacerate hits will ramp up your scourge and fury to get the damage rolling in faster. the flesh tearer bleed is not worth it

[delicate shadow]

not hard

[fleet zealot]

base knife crit is like

35% if not higher

flesh tearer is more than enough trust

[cerulean pike]

You don't even really need scourge.

Like, two hits of lacerate is worse than one hit of flesh-tearer

[coarse birch]

yeah knife crits like every third swing

it should be at least

[delicate shadow]

you could run riposte and get better crit value that way anyway

[severe patrol]

Yeah dodging is easy, its just that when you got multiple enemies on your ass it understandably becomes hard from how many people are trying to kill you

[fleet zealot]

and it's not even about bleed stacks

[severe patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-the-matrix-fight-fighting-combat-gif-4627317

[fleet zealot]

it's about ease of gameplay use

[cerulean pike]

And if you "accidentally" hit a head (which you should be hitting heads anyways)
You don't get lacerate

[fleet zealot]

flesh tearer you have to move your mouse WAY less

[coarse birch]

a blessing that works against knifes entire strength is not good

for minimal reward as well

[spark ember]

literally 3 guys trying to prove their point without ability to record how they deal with 6 crushers in psyk xDD

[cerulean pike]

Also if your fury isn't up for the whole game after you get your 25 stacks at the start, you really are doing something wrong

[untold carbon]

I remember doing a meme piety chastise knife build and I ended the game with like 3-4 thousand crits landed, it was hilarious

[fleet zealot]

lacerate you are going to have to drop your aim a lot to go for chests, then raise it back up a lot more than just normal weakspot aiming

[delicate shadow]

legit if y'all want crit to be higher just run riposte, straight up, or the one that gives crit when you punch a dude

either will get you much further than scourge

[spark ember]

srly, u guys are able to end the conversation with just one post, but nooooo

[delicate shadow]

scourge is just a tasty bonus on top

[spark ember]

clowns...

[strange kestrel]

wtfis going on

[fleet zealot]

why don't you do it?

[glass pelican]

i don't spend too much time on the zealot chat since i mainly play ogryn but every time i see a situation like this is usually about the knife

[fleet zealot]

if you have so much free time

[cerulean pike]

incan please kill that man

[strange moon]

We’re all clowns here

[strange kestrel]

what is the discussion

[cerulean pike]

it's literally darcy pilled now

[delicate shadow]

bruv people have posted clips already, please get a grip

[fleet zealot]

put him through the machine

[hidden nacelle]

LOL srs

[glass pelican]

why does the knife make people go crazy

[delicate shadow]

if you want something specific, make it yourself

[ripe quest]

What 2 weeks of meta does to movement players.

[strange kestrel]

what is the ARGUMENT

[fleet zealot]

bleed is the strongest placebo effect in gaming history

[coarse birch]

bleed knife bad uncanny good

[fleet zealot]

bleed>heavies vs crushers (not my take)

[glass pelican]

idk man i just use the hammer or evi

[cerulean pike]

because people are feeling the loss aversion and want it to be good when other weapons are just better

[glass pelican]

and be happy

[strange kestrel]

bad take

[strange kestrel]

ruthless backstab uncanny

easy

not hard

[spark ember]

they all claim they can do the same faster, but non of them can post a video of that

[fleet zealot]

no

[spark ember]

thats all

[oak bronze]

anyone know where this is from?

[strange kestrel]

ruthless backstab precognition

easy

[fleet zealot]

they capped rending bonus

[delicate shadow]

people already posted clips

doing it faster

[fleet zealot]

you only benefit from 1 rending blessing really

so uncanny+ precog

[untold carbon]

Only time I ever run bleed is scourge for crit evis and bleed heavies for Ogryn weapons like the bully club and shovel

[ripe quest]

Faster with what, any weapon or just different knife blessings?

[spark ember]

non bleed knife

[coarse birch]

uncanny smackdown

[desert thicket]

Knife isn't good. It's fun.

[coarse birch]

i think were the blessings

in the clip

[glass pelican]

damn the knife seems to be the taboo weapon

just use the hammer

[strange kestrel]

LITERALLY LMAO

[glass pelican]

i'm having fun with the chainaxe

cool weapon

[fleet zealot]

faster with knife

[ripe quest]

What talent setup

[strange kestrel]

zealot has so many interesting weapons and yall use thek nife

knife

[spark ember]

if u can show me, i would be glad to see it 🙂

[desert thicket]

Running Mach 5 at gunner groups and feeling like a ninja is peak darktide fun

[strange kestrel]

stop crying and use thammer

crusher

bro even chainaxe

[spark ember]

whatever u prefer, just be a zealot

[fleet zealot]

I dont use knife

it's crimge

[hardy surge]

ok, here's my take. I personally think knife is such a debated weapon because it is the only weapon with that ridiculous mobility. Any other weapon tanks your movement. and once you are hooked you can't let go.

[cerulean pike]

It's not

[strange kestrel]

i think bleed knife is hindering dps for no reason

thats all

knife is good

[cerulean pike]

probably for zealot mayb yeah

[fleet zealot]

knife's biggest weakness is that people fall into the dumbest traps cause fatshark doesn't explain mechanics

[ornate bone]

Knife's mobility is ridiculous to the point I started sucking with other melees

[cerulean pike]

but tbh my ass moves faster with an eviscerator than 90% of knife gamers i've found

lmao

[desert thicket]

Crazy how you can actually play any weapon on any difficulty because skill > weapon pick.

[strange kestrel]

yeah literally

[untold carbon]

Chainaxe is tasty rn, been using this one a lot, lets me one shot crushers and all other big boy elites without chastise

[fleet zealot]

so you have people going dumb stuff like lacerate+fleshtearer, crit chance+crit damage

[hardy surge]

that goes for a lot of weapons tbh.

[ripe quest]

I can benchmark stuff. I really don't care too much, if you run bleed you need Uncanny and I see you running Uncanny so . ik Uncanny/Precog ruins crushers with Martyr.

[glass pelican]

i think chainaxe is becoming my favorite melee

i like the chainaxe

[cerulean pike]

Momentum works too

[glass pelican]

love me axes

[ornate bone]

It's so easy to get anywhere and avoid enemies with knife that you just get used to it and suddenly playing a normal weapon feels like walking in mud

[delicate shadow]

knife is only debated because people don't know how to do math ngl

like there's nothing wrong with taking bleed but people swear by it for things that other blessings mathmatically and practically do better

[fleet zealot]

not really, a lot of other weapons it is pretty much all but accepted damage, power, and brutal momentum>everything else

[drifting wolf]

need a bigger chainaxe

[strange kestrel]

bro chainaxe is amazing

i love axes

[fleet zealot]

chaxe is my baby

[glass pelican]

not for me cause the moment i unlocked another melee weapon i dropped the knife

[fleet zealot]

best weapon

[cerulean pike]

2 handed chainaxe? nah
i want my half handed chainaxe

[glass pelican]

why would i use a knife

[strange kestrel]

you can chop off a head with a CHAIN AXE

[glass pelican]

when there is axe

chainaxe

evi

hammer

[strange kestrel]

in what other game will you get a fucking chain axe

[ornate bone]

And knife also has the benefit of working differently for different classes

[strange kestrel]

and you choose to use a knife

my brother in christ i have a knife in my kitchen

[ornate bone]

Mercy killer on zealot is very mid because you can't reliably proc it without being a lacerate nerd

[spark ember]

the thing is people claim bleed setup is complete trash compared to what u described, i disagree with that statement, and so that why i want someone show me how fast they can deal with 6 crushers with non bleed knife

[cerulean pike]

knife has the benefit of showing you people you know are gonna be garbage

[delicate shadow]

like if you need crit, take riposte or smackdown, if you need extra damage just straight up, take precog or executor

all builds should be running uncanny

[ripe quest]

If only Crab was here, I loved him yelling at bleed knife users

[limpid radish]

Change Perfect Strike to Rampage, right?

[untold carbon]

I have a new appreciation for the chainaxe because it’s the weapon that I beat the hard mode twins with and was an invaluable source of damage. One attempt I nearly took half of The gun guys hp in the first minute of the fight

[hardy surge]

you don't have a chain axe in your house? lame

[ornate bone]

Mercy killer on vet is great because you can bleed enemies on any melee hit

[cerulean pike]

ye

[strange kestrel]

i wish

[glass pelican]

too broke for one

i have a bat

[ornate bone]

I actually have problems hitting the same breakpoints from my vet on my zealot

[fleet zealot]

kinda but nah

[glass pelican]

that is also a tazer

and a flashlight

[fleet zealot]

mercy problem

[ornate bone]

Despite zealot being the "melee class"

[cerulean pike]

i have a crowbar in my home

[limpid radish]

Rev it up sounds pretty cool, why does no one mention it?

[fleet zealot]

is that it is just half as good as precog

[tame valley]

a shame this isnt on my vet

[fleet zealot]

cause damage>mobility

[strange kestrel]

oh yeah mercy killer on vet is gross

[tame valley]

what do i put on this

[fleet zealot]

especially when you have charge

[fleet zealot]

crucian to surgical

[cerulean pike]

pree much
rev it up is ok

[fleet zealot]

and uhh, perk elites to maniac

[hardy surge]

This guy with rev it up was running faster than me in a full sprint speed knife build. it is pretty funny

[ornate bone]

Psyker I don't think benefits from mercy killer because they can't bleed on hit, but also not flesh tearer because they don't have the same attack speed as zealot and neither scourge

[fleet zealot]

yea but then you give up rampage/headtaker/slaughterer/thrust

and that's just not worth

[ornate bone]

So my best guess, because I don't run knife psyker, is executor or haymaker

[fleet zealot]

psykers shoudl never run knife

[coarse birch]

yeah the damage blessings are just better

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/japan-toei-marvel-spider-man-hero-gif-18985706

[fleet zealot]

they have duelling swords

[strange kestrel]

knife psyker is nefarious

wtf

[ornate bone]

So in there we already have 3 classes with 3 different blessings

[cerulean pike]

they also have a mk4 dueling sword

[glass pelican]

true

[fleet zealot]

there is no objective reason to take a knife over a sword that does the same thing but it can roll uncanny+rampage and be better

[glass pelican]

we should give psyker a hammer

[strange moon]

Psyker has Deimos

[coarse birch]

and cant roll bleed blessings

[dense field]

probably switch specials > flak

[fleet zealot]

mk4 dueling beats out even deimos

[ornate bone]

I hate deimos

[north sedge]

even crabs need rest

[fleet zealot]

it's ridic

[cerulean pike]

mk4 dueling sword is just knife but better for psyker

[vocal pulsar]

I want bolter on psyker

[ornate bone]

To me psyker has either mk4 ds or illisi

[fleet zealot]

i miss yog

[ornate bone]

Nothing else

[coarse birch]

give psyker shotguns tbh

[strange moon]

Does it 2 tap crushers without buffs

[hardy surge]

knife is fine in syker if you never use it. like... for real. you can staff all day. and just switch to knife lierally only for the movement speed. I'd even slot it with sprint efficiency and stamina

[fleet zealot]

😭

[untold carbon]

2h force sword needs to come now

[ornate bone]

Maybe devil's claw 4

[strange kestrel]

give psykers a one way trip to the golden throne

[glass pelican]

give ogryn a 2 handed chainaxe

do it

[cerulean pike]

probably. it can also i think 1 tap crushers with buffs?
or at least nearly does it. my ds4 sucks so

[delicate shadow]

anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxAKmdUC-yc

[fleet zealot]

not without buffs but mk4 dueling can wreck crushers

[untold carbon]

I’d rather have a normal 2 handed axe

[fleet zealot]

and from a longer distance

[cerulean pike]

It also does it faster since you don't have to wait for the deimos animation

[coarse birch]

damn this is from the dark times lol

no tiered blessings

[strange moon]

Which Deimos animation you don’t need the rev for it just charge 2

[regal sorrel]

Just managed to beat the twins on heresy with the aripina praced auto

[strange moon]

Which also makes crushers belly flop

[marble tinsel]

should i use beacon of purity or benediction?

[regal sorrel]

Is the bolter good?

[delicate shadow]

on vet it can be

[cerulean pike]

does the deimos not do the whole pump warp into enemy when you attack

it's been a while i've only used illisi

[delicate shadow]

pretty mid otherwise

[strange kestrel]

no

[fleet zealot]

mk4 dueling heavies>deimos h2

i'm sorry to say

[coarse birch]

special does

[fleet zealot]

you are a bit behind in the meta

[north sedge]

yes but h2 is very strong on it

normal h2

[cerulean pike]

ah

so you still have to combo into it

[ornate bone]

Yep

[strange moon]

I’ve used both I prefer Deimos lol

[cerulean pike]

meanwhile ds4 is just
two heavies of any kind

[ornate bone]

And you can't even do l1 h2

[coarse birch]

and your stuck in place

[ornate bone]

because the gun loops h2 into l2 or whatever was the light

so you can't double stab with deimos

but you can with ds4

[coarse birch]

the only real benefit of deimos is knocking everything over

[north sedge]

it's a good weapon, just dueling sword does the same thing better

[cerulean pike]

mk4 is all stabs

[coarse birch]

but ds4 just kills it

so

[delicate shadow]

2 tapping crushers with a ds4 crit at full rending

[dense field]

And ds4 has that sweet speed

on top

[cerulean pike]

my ds4 has no rending

[delicate shadow]

ds4 is like knife, but without the stupid debates on it because it only gets non-bait blessings

[north sedge]

both are ultimately trash though because they can't roll flesh tearer lacerate

[fleet zealot]

LMAO wtf the bleed knife dude dm'd me

[coarse birch]

true

[fleet zealot]

and instantly deleted it before I could read, then blocked me

xd

[cerulean pike]

sounds like a sad life to live

[fleet zealot]

what a beta

[dense field]

sigma grindset

[cerulean pike]

this is, once again, why i clown on people

[dense field]

keeps you guessing

[untold carbon]

If 2 handed force sword gets a moveset similar to the Bret Longsword from VT2 I’ll officially give Psyker another chance

[cerulean pike]

incan says im being TOO MEAN
i'm simply doing the god emperor's work

[north sedge]

i just make memes

and then sometimes people link me to my own memes which is funny

[glass pelican]

let's talk about how much the knife sucks from a style perspective and how much cooler a chainaxe is

[untold carbon]

I’ve had that happen a few times myself

[cerulean pike]

no im busy playing path of exile

[ornate bone]

I also have found a cool spot in GW2

[glass pelican]

i would be playing 40k rogue trader if the game wasn't fucked in act 4

[ornate bone]

Cute place

Comfy

I killed the wildlife

[glass pelican]

this game took oveer my life for a while

i still haven't gone back to it

i should

[drifting wolf]

nooo not the wildlife

[ornate bone]

I bought the first two expansions on sale because I really really wanted to try out revenant and the elite specs

Well, I pestered a friend to buy it for me

[glass pelican]

i own all expansions iirc

i just don't have that much time to play it

[limpid radish]

chain axe or evi, wich one is objectively superior and why?

[glass pelican]

for me a chainaxe sounds way cooler

[north sedge]

back when overhaul hit and knife fever roared back to life, some people would randomly show me their knife scoreboards cause of the memes

[glass pelican]

never was the biggest fan of swords

[ornate bone]

My condition berserker when the enemy's description says "immune to burning"

[glass pelican]

i do love axes tho

[glass pelican]

you play berserker too?

[ornate bone]

Found it to be the most fun out of the ones I tried so far

[lapis frigate]

what can i do to salvage this bad boy

[ornate bone]

Which were daredevil, deadeye, berserker and spellbreaker

[delicate shadow]

chain axe because evis players tend to be mouthbreathers

no but actual reasoning is likely chaxe just due to better consistency, you don't have to do weird shit like bloodthirsty whackamole and w/e

[left iron]

Get fucked, scourge is better

[ornate bone]

The sheer fire spam of berserker is magical

I'm leveling a ranger now because I'm interested in soulbeast

[dense field]

It's fine

[glass pelican]

i have like 4 classes at lv80

[ornate bone]

Berserker has been the most fun tho

Both for power and condi

[untold carbon]

I’m a fan of all bladed weapons(with a preference towards swords), I’m usually not big on blunt weapons, but a lot of the blunt weapons in this game have found a special place in my heart

[lapis frigate]

salvage might have been the wrong word, what could improve it

[glass pelican]

i think a guardian, berserker, tempest aand i don't remember whaat else

[left iron]

Soulbeast has insane single target DPS for pvp

[ornate bone]

Axe berserker is idiotic

Infinite quickness, infinite fury

[glass pelican]

i love my axe berserker

got those bad boys on pink

[ornate bone]

Came to a point where I had to change gear to get less precision because I was going above 100% crit chance

[untold carbon]

I made my Rashad look like a one handed hammer, and I like it a lot more

[dense field]

Surgical 4 instead of crucian

[ornate bone]

Unless the game does Warframe crits, in which case RIP precision gear

[north sedge]

no we must debate the nuances of new evisc, most of the time you m1, but sometimes you have to hold m1 a bit

[whole vapor]

Which chainaxe is better?

[left iron]

It doesnt, you're good

[ornate bone]

Based

[delicate shadow]

it's very complicated

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-awesome-shirt-fashion-gif-10350473

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-clam-grass-jump-gif-25956447

[ornate bone]

I do feel the pain of the warrior specs because I need to gear differently for both

I can't even shoehorn condition into spellbreaker

I have to get a full separate set for it

[glass pelican]

for me style wise axe just look damn cool, while i also think swords are cool but i see them sso much in media i don't really dig them that much

[north sedge]

is preference, old one a bit better at horde clear, new one a bit better at hard hits, but both delete the elites so

[ornate bone]

And apparently there's no cheap knight gear in the trading post so I can get power, precision and toughness

[left iron]

I have crafted mythic, i think the rarity was called, on 6 of my characters

My god that was expensive

[glass pelican]

guild wars 2 and cheap gear don't go together

[ornate bone]

Right now I think my berserker got uhhh

[glass pelican]

only when getting to 80 for the first time

[ornate bone]

Precision, condi, toughness

[untold carbon]

I prefer the mkXV because it’s literally the successor to the Executioner Sword

[ornate bone]

Which was a nice change because I can self-heal from the fire apparently

And I get deleted a bit less by champions

[north sedge]

this was about chaxe

[untold carbon]

Ah

Apologies

[ornate bone]

Funny how going full damage at 80 is different from going for it at the start

[ripe quest]

Played like shit in both of these. It's somewhat hard to passup like, ~40% damage that Precog gives you for just hitting a weakspot hit imo. Executor is fun too.

[ornate bone]

And also other funnies, like how thief's unload falls off on the late game

[untold carbon]

I do enjoy my chain axe a lot tho

[strange kestrel]

WOAH

nice bro

i love guild wars

i was a firebrand

[left iron]

I really liked just camping near one of the bandit bosses in the first 3 zones, the sheer amount of people dying to them was hilarious

[ornate bone]

Unload and racking up might does so much when I'm bullying skritts in Queensdale, but then I try it in Heart of Thorns and the enemies are like "uh-huh, now die"

[glass pelican]

that was the first class i got to 80

and said to myself

[delicate shadow]

ty lol, I had zero interest in launching the game just to do psykh stupidity

[glass pelican]

"i don't like this"

and went to berserker

[ornate bone]

That's me

[glass pelican]

never looked back

[strange kestrel]

me too but i loved it

then i got an elementalist

[ripe quest]

It helps that I like knife.

[ornate bone]

I just die a bit later than most

[strange kestrel]

then i got a condi mirage

[ornate bone]

I was trying a bandit in a level 40-whatever area with my ranger

[strange kestrel]

so fun

[left iron]

I sometimes helped, but mostly i was playing flute somewhere nearby

[delicate shadow]

yea I just dclaw if I feel like going that way at all lol

[left iron]

I was in a musicians guild

[frosty herald]

yknow

[ornate bone]

I was evading the guy like I was coated in mayonnaise

[frosty herald]

this actualy makes a lot of sense for psyker

[ornate bone]

And this thief would come in, get slapped and die

[north sedge]

no real knife lovers flesh tearer lacerate, sadly you're an uncanny hipster poser 😔

[untold carbon]

Right?

[frosty herald]

bret longsword does fit psyker in moveset

[ornate bone]

Bret sword is le eleganté

[left iron]

The giga DPS boys going like 'YEEAAH im gonna oneshot this dude'

And gets bodied

[ornate bone]

oh shit, I need to shit

[dense karma]

thoughts?

[strange kestrel]

good

ghost for dumdum if u want more dmg

but ghost is fine

[untold carbon]

I’d actually finish leveling my psyker if he got a bret longsword

[strange kestrel]

then ranged damage vs elite to maniacs

[dense karma]

isnt infernus not as good on the new las?

[north sedge]

yea it's not great

[dense karma]

since its slower fire rate

[left iron]

Infernus isnt as great on new las

[untold carbon]

The fact that they looked at real hema manuscripts for some of the moves makes me love it even more as a hema nerd myself

[spark ember]

nice, 20 sec is a good result, tnx u for sharing

[delicate shadow]

it's almost like

[strange kestrel]

ah my bad

[delicate shadow]

we were right

or something

[frosty herald]

Bret longsword blocking on heavy is peak

[ripe quest]

Chaxe is too good for me to pass up. Just the vibe

[frosty herald]

Now imagine force greatsword blocking with deflector

[delicate shadow]

aha nice I am so not into chain weapons

[strange kestrel]

what is the build.

[ripe quest]

Standard Martyr with Second Wind

[delicate shadow]

luv me crusher, dclaw, hsword and combat axe

mostly dclaw and crusher tbh

[strange kestrel]

oh bet

[dense karma]

stun grenade and flamer

[spark ember]

it was obvious from the beginning, u have another issues. Althou i still think u have no right to call bleed setup a complete trash while its 10 sec slower then non bleed.

[dense karma]

must have a lot of faith in teammates

[strange kestrel]

i use the same build for thammer

[delicate shadow]

now you're shifting goal posts lmao, unless you mean to say you were baiting the whole time

[strange kestrel]

ive changed my mind about flamer it can do some pretty cool stuff i still dont like it tho

[untold carbon]

MkXII chainaxe push attack is underrated, I like it a lot

[ripe quest]

yee it weirdly hits hard

The lights too

[frosty herald]

Stab push attack are my favourite attacks in darktide

[ripe quest]

If the lights were on a different non-chain weapon they'd be my goto for single target damage lol

[ornate bone]

hm, I just remembered

[delicate shadow]

you wanted hyper specific proof, you got it, it proves the other setup is better, idk wtf you want lmao

[untold carbon]

It feels more like a one handed hammer, especially before they added the rev sounds to the lights

[whole vapor]

Crusher is the truth

[dense karma]

WHO'S READY FOR A BRICK

[ornate bone]

I'm also farming black lion keys so I can get a makeover kit and turn my norn zerker into full native american wife mommy mode

[spark ember]

i said from the very beginning that i am not agree with people who call bleed set up a complete trash. And i want proof, tnx god one good guy @ripe quest managed to provide a proper proof

[ornate bone]

Which is incredibly based, of course

[untold carbon]

Love me crusher

[dense karma]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[strange kestrel]

damn...

[delicate shadow]

so you got what you wanted 🙂

[strange kestrel]

it only had to have 16 more points in mobility and 2 more in crit bonus

[delicate shadow]

#zealot-class message

it's like as though I said people can take bleed and it's ok to take it

[strange kestrel]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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