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and it's a slower swing speed
both are crowd clear
but the old one is faster with less cleave
while the new one is slower with all cleave
then what's the point of the new one having all cleave
good question
you don't need cleave blessing
yah because cleave just doesnt work
poxwalkers? idk
old evis feels better to me in most ways
then use it no ones forcing ya
i know
i meant it feels like its just, actually better
i wish the new evis was equal but
a damage cap is what kills it
I am forcing you otherwise Iโll leave a plate of sugar free cookies on your bed
do u know whats crazy
makin me hungry at 1am
the only un-target capped move on old evis
heblo
is the h1
if u used
any move
besides this
u were experiencing target damage caps
the whole time
yah well that n push attack are all i use for horde clear
(and lights if i feel special)
the push attack is target capped
you use rev l1
ye that's a rev light attack
huh
the damage is significantly lower
there's very minimal reason to be concerned about the target caps because in practice the different is marginal
this things lke a swiss army knife
the only people i will accept this point from
block push, let go and press again so it goes to h2
are people who use H1 QQ
h1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qq
or sprint to cancel it
because u are otherwise using the weapon in a way where you're incorporating a significant amount of target capped attacks into the combo
because i havent seen anyone actually use h1 qq on old evis since they made the weapon deal damage
yea u can really feel the 4 target cap on the new evis its rlly bad
dont use it complete garbage
Went afk for a sec but here's my anti boss Ironhelm
Very cool, Big E, very cool
Unyielding enemies is like bosses n stuff right?
Backstabbing bulwarks and ogryn gunners
ah, so it's bulwarks, ogryn gunners and bosses?
well, most bosses
Yur
that's what I want on thunder hammer, yes?
Mostly, carapac is a good 2nd perk
setting up my thunder hammer so y'know. Got a solid 3/4 if I go unyielding lol
For boss killin ye its good on hammer
Here's the site if you just wanna see everythin
Thank you.
I only got 56 hours in so
still figuring out everything
Carapace is not good on thammer, stop spreading this. It does not reach any breakpoints to make it worth running over flak/elites
^
And here's my finalized hammer. I know it isn't perfect (critical hit damage isn't super great but at least it's extra damage?) but it's good enough to last me a while.
3 line weapon is good enough lol
Indeed.
and the 4th line is still... alright.
it's extra damage
so.
at the end of the day, really solid.
at the end of the day, even if the 4th one isn't the greatest, bonus damage is bonus damage
right?
so if there's any 4th one I'd want to get I do not mind this one
Its pretty irrelevant but its fine lol
Extra damage is extra damage
better then something that would do worse.
Also what do y'all think of this? I never really had an 'ammo issue' with this but eh. I kept efficiency 4 on there in case I get a better version so I can earn the blessing
I thought it's pretty decent but
idk.
Reminder, I'm 56 hours in so this is like one of the 'good' things I got.
Might sound weird but I'd argue that since you're not a vet it'd be good to throw Ghost on over deadly
Nah that's a great Kantrael. base stats are huge
I'm using it to pick off enemies quickly that I can't get into melee range with.
so yeah.
anything I should change?
like the perks or whatever?
deadly -> ghost
ranged ws -> maniacs
perhaps
Deadly accurate also requires that you hit a weakspot with a crit just so you know
Yeah I'd say Ghost over Deadly, Ranged Weakspot to Maniac
It'll let you challenge gunners safely
So if you're not critting when you hit a weakspot you dont get any bonus damage
I think I'mma keep deadly, but I can do maniac. what does maniac cover again? mutants, gunners I think?
Doesn't the face count?
Not gunners
Trappers and flamers
They are weakspots but htting weakspots doesnt mean you are critting
So you have to crit
gunners are scab/dreg, so flak/unarmoured
so ig ghost?
Ye
alright. I think I have deadly accurate unlocked at least.
Deadly n Headhunter is more of a Vet combo
ghost is the "I'd like to ignore ranged enemies" blessing
guys im going to hell i was toxic in hunt showdown
You do, if there's no microscope it means you have it
Yeah, I was using this as a long range 'fuck you' option to anything that tries to cause some heresy while I'm killing the infested.
Yeah so run Ghost, that way when you hit weak spots you become immune to ranged damage for a sec, plus w the reduced ammo usage blessing you get a lot more time to just dump the mag at enemies
and then Maniac over weak spot damage
Yeah ok
I'll see if I have it. I don't think I do.
I can change deadly accurate freely right? cause I changed that slot before
I think
i forgot
lemme check
Yeees
so change out ranged weak spot damage for max maniac damage and deadly accurate for tier 3 ghost?
ye
Then once you can up ghost to tier 4 do that too
I recommend just saving up your melkbucks from weeklies cause sometimes he'll sell t4 blessins you may be huntin, I've got a few that way
You got it. Then I'll have essentially a perfect weapon?
how the fuck is that a 365 base
or one of em?
with math
it adds up to 365
if you do simple addition
Ye your gun is good af, dmg and stopping power are most important so it'll hit like a truck, ghost will let you take on gunners with ease, efficiency will help you to not use up too much ammo
how do I approach a gunner with it? side-arm shoot em in the head?
Hello I'm looking to do the damnation twins if anyone is interested in helping ๐
Say you've got gunners down the range from you, you just pull it out n start firin lol
If youre melee range of em just melee em but if they're far enough out just challenge w your gun
I've just never seen all 70s like that, the bars make it feel impossible lmaoo
Is there a different use for each knife or one is straight up better than the other?
just try not to get caught off guard by the gunners otherwise you will enjoy hotshot lasgun to the back
Interesting that you choose the crit CDR node over backstab CDR. And you don't have Scourge or even blazing piety keystone active. And the Evisc you're using doesn't have Shred to proc more crits
New knife is a p good all rounder, has a bit of horde clear if you go heavy 1, light 3 repeat. Old knife is good single target dmg but it's horde clear comes from spamming the shove attack
I press F into a horde and get 20 something seconds taken off my cooldown
speeds up horde clear a little bit /shrug

not really much else to spend the two points on
I made the same exact comment
I could grab TWBS
Is that how you try to balance out how broken crit CDR is
but I just don't
TWBS is a boring talent
and shits all over your skill in movement anyway
since the other three classes don't get to use it
IE: its a massive crutch that zealots rely on instead of getting gud
While it's true you don't need TWBS for Zealot. It does give you more comfort playing the class
There are exceptions to this. A few players here, and Thunder Hammer.
But beyond that, its just a ginormous crutch
And depending on the person. The comfort of it is a must have or not
wb on knife? A speed boost to an already fast weapon lettin a zealot burst into backline is p huge
You're backstabbing things far more often in practice. With the only caveat that backstab CDR has it's innate cooldown which iirc is 5 seconds
You may be
I'm sure as shit not
it's 1 second
and backstab CDR is something you have to play into in my experience
in general weapons who's clear depends on their >0 damage floor do it best
like old evis
Yeah but, the backstab isn't something you have to precisely aim something in an enemy's back
ofc
Just be 180 from an enemy
but to really get the most out of it you need to be doing a relatively tight circle around a given enemy
while keeping them from turning throughs tagger
Throwing knife used to inherit combat blade blessings right? Does this still happen? And with the new mk4 too?
You do gain more value if you backstab head though eh?
Real value is having backstabber active for that 20% more damage regardless of where you aim behind an enemy
the real value is giving a boss backshots and dealing more dmg
The talent?

no the gun
Personal prefrence i guess.
lol
Fair enough. I didn't know it was that good lol.
that seems like it'd be good for a single target build.
just with some extra cleave to help you against hordes
idk tho
here
So I'm good now?
lol yup
Looks good
just need ghost 4 and this is like, the perfect weapon then?
obviously it's stats can be higher but lol
For Zealot I'd say yeah it's near perfect
the depravity of the mg4 lasgun
The great American patriot defending his property from bandits. 1899 colorized
near perfect as in just ghost need to be tier 4?

you dont put the bless with 90% weakspot dmg ont crit ?

I have that. Deadly accurate. but he said I should use ghost instead
me when injuns trespass on my brinery
to engage reapers and gunners better
I'm glad you noticed.
Since it's a Zealot you don't really need to worry about deadly, more of a vet thing
Plus you need headhunter, deadly only works if the weak spot hit also crits
Someone's gotta be that lol.
you can have + 25 % crit flat with zealot no ?
i mean this + crit perk its more than 1/3
Well, this is now my build. The hammer being a 3/4 is good enough for me lol.
Yeah with left tree, but I'd argue it's more effective to have a way to deal with ranged enemies you can't reach quickly
do I need to put my tree in here so y'all can see what I run?
to determine?
'id play pure crit mg12 build and swap for a crit melee, like HS, catachan or even crusher
Here's my tree. It's meant to be a sorta 'melee wave clear' build.
I mean tree is kinda up to your playstyle
i prefer martyr dom for hammer
or momentum
I like inexorable on my hammer for atk spd n dmg
real nice guy but great in his role
Mine is a pretty generic build
I think.
But yeah.
That's it.
it's meant to be a sorta 'ol reliable' sorta thing.
@patent patrol
Your tree is fine, I'd say to make a few with different builds/weapons you wanna try so you can find your playstyle
I found mine
run in, swing, nuke enemies, turn around, pop the gunner that's out of melee range
I'm very aggressive
Then you chillin ๐
I'm the type of person who will skip out on a point of no return heal just for MAXIMUM DAMAGE
XD
I'm also a dodger more-so than a blocker. I only really block when I'm out of dodges or fighting the daemonhost.
Yeah that's how I am with knife, I just prefer the speed n such. Here's a min of carnage I may have posted before (I forget shit xd) before I knock tf out
hows this weapon?
If you like dodging I'd recommend to swap these two, gives you flat dmg reduc on successful dodge
can i rather build with this evisc?
its only lacking in mobility
Mobility is a dump stat.
That's a good base.
awesome
was worried cuz its got low rating
also what about this shotgun here
brunt had it in his shop
The rating will affect your blessings and perks but like, 360+ is usually the sweet spot so that's a fine base.
Try this instead. It's a minor adjustment.
P good base, has potential w good blessin
welp, rip that fine piece
i love my luck
Commit
Let's see the last roll
:)
no more plasteel ๐ญ
Shiii rip
its a shit piece now anyway
3 unfavorable stats
But yeah the shotgun is nice, agri is insane with full bore cause of its alt fire so I'd say it's a goos grab
what changed exactly?
thank you for the input
still tryna decide between agri and zarona for martyrvisc zealot
one of those nodes at the top on the left
and the damage for cdr node
for i want to say sustained assault
Ah ok. I think I like my current build but I'll try it.
damage for cdr is not good
wdym?
what i said
I'm using a long cooldown ult so.
it is a bad node
i thought it'd be good to be able to pop it more
I just can't win the new mission on Damnation and it keeps me aways from sleeping at night
it is minor cdr and only works on health damage
it will not help you get your ult when you need it because you will just be dead
What about this though? This seems pretty good. and has certainly helped me. Idk.
anyway I'll try this.
ah ok then
i'll try this
I can always throw in combat ability regeneration on my curios I suppose
Here's my take, I'd argue you don't need thy wrath be swift because you have Chorus, so when you start getting shot or slowed by enemies you're trying to get near you can just pop it to push them back and get on top of them. This gives you toughness dmg reduc in coherency, as well as the dmg reduc to allies from middle tree and damage reduc from dodge since you like doin that.
12% of a minute is 7 seconds
With talents and teammates talents makes quiet the difference
can i get a fun stealthot build
what abt weapons
Cleave dagger w/haymaker, lacerate or flesh tearer
cleave hordes do not really need to dodge
why not thammer/
Do 1 health 1 toughness 1 wound, make sure they have toughness regen, and gunner resist is always a plus
@sullen eagle here's mine if you want a hammer build, either hammer works w it, most important thing is to have thrust and unyielding dmg
Think this one was the one i ran.
ok so cleave knife? which one is that
mk VI
also im kinda dissapoitned with agri revolver
Still outdoing bolter
lmfao
Wouldn't even run flamer with the new thing going for it.
man, new evis is such a head empty weapon rofl
Would be fun with headtaker on it
headtaker + shred
martyr build
just run into like, pretty much everything and spam left click and things just die
-including crushers-
axe one shots, pops heads off, not much with those ravagers
oh yeah like, lightspamming down crushers with it isn't exactly the best way to kill crushers
but it's totally doable
Tried for a new dagger with carapac & unyelding
lol
i loved that show lol
would'a paid less than 5-7 million for a new perk/blessing bout a million
Just to skip a run
One dagger is 9200?
oof, that power lol
Pray it rolls well
That's rough
Indeed. I hope Emprah blesses him.
how do i do big dmg on knife?
what u guys think of the heavy las pistol?
her
but wait. In the warhammer 40k lore we call each other Brothers.
so TECHNICALLY I was still right
lol
I ain't wrong. We're called BROTHERS here.
how do i get the big single hit out of this knife
Roll it first, see what perks n such you get
And crits
Hello so Iโm a vet looking to become a zealot what weapons would yโall recommend I use
On what enemy?
i mean what combo
There's a lot of good ones. you need to find your playstyle.
also holy shit this is actually insane
Heavy sword is usually a good startoff
do you want an assassin sneaky backstabber build? a 'run in blindly and swing and watch as things drop' build?
if anything i'd say avoid bolter, recon las (if zeal has em)
is there any way to take an aura other than loner? i dont wanna be an asshole lol
I mean I used the col IGA and the Chainsword as a stealth vet
Did use shout from time to time as well
i dont like loner aura
Well lucky you. Zealot has the chainsword. He even has a two handed version called the heavy evicerator.
makes me feel bad
I got kicked once for using it.
ah its not possible to take an aura other than loner in this build
So guessing zealot is a more offensive melee focus sort of vet?
So that knife is actually p interesting, it's got a few diff dps techniques. You have general horde clear with heavy, light x3, repeat. Single target damage you can do light, heavy x2, repeat for precise attacks / heavy x3 if it's an enemy without a super specific weak spot
Essentially. The opposite of vet in most cases.
while vet is about shooting everything in the face
nop
this actually looks super fucken fun
Zealot is about being in their face ruthlessly attacking
laspistol
wdym nope? In most cases Vet's the one standing back shooting stuff with the occasional melee while Zealot is the primarily melee occasionally gun.
Accatran or Kantrael pattern?
in a good team anyway
depends how trigger happy you are
Which eviscerator should I use
Both are good honestly. Really good.
ruined?
pretty much
fuck you hadron
also those blessings are just trash right
Loner is fine if you don't always run off, it's actually insanely useful for gunner hunting with toughness regen on your curios, let's you stay tanky while tearing thru enemies, and you can always stealth out n head back to your team if need be
eh, still usable for now at least lol
run haymaker with it
Gonna be straight up, never seen someone get shafted this hard aside from myself LOL
dont have it LMAO
For now, swap groaners to flak and mercy to either precog or uncanny, it'll actually work p well for ya in the meantime
i usually run hi3/3strom so itll be fine for now
ok so horde clear combo for knife?
and how do i get the big dmg hit? im assuming if i can afford it, whiff whiff F stab
lacerate
You can also buy white n green knives from brunt just yo get em to blue so you can farm blessings, works sometimes
Think she means the actual attack pattern
basically w/e
@sullen eagle wrong one, here's the combos
Oh
Lul
running carapac with it also nice
With crit you blow throw cara p easy
Another combo is to block attack into heavy x2, light, repeat heavy x2 light
combos with it totally possible.
it is a trick of the trade weapon after all cause of attack speed
Give it like 15 sec then close
Just a dagger
no please, nerf.
please dont nerf, its fun
Also give this build a try, inexorable is huge with knife
yeah, it cleaves, less impact than the other knife thou, but..
not having any keystone mods is rough tho
@sullen eagle also if you time stealth correctly you can get two enhanced hits off
oh? that sounds insane
usually one shot crushers from backstab
Eh they're not too important for this tbh, dmg reduc on crit makes you super tanky and no one takes the shove modifier
You're p much only missing one and it's perfectly fine w/o it
don't really need to dodge a horde
?
I'd go for this with what you have available on this knife
Thought you could swap out stamina instead of groaners just to increase waveclear
Flak is good vs maulers, scab ragers, n most gunners
but i 1 tap them anyways?
Here's all the enemies with flak armor
With ability yeah you'll one tap, but without the bonus damage is super useful to clear enemies quickly
what perks on zarona revolver? got crit chance on it. Flak or carapace for the other one?
Works for me but i'd much rather have carapac 4 than elites 3.
or the possibility to change the weapon overall
like having surgery 4 on a 380 revolver
Whatโs a good range weapon to use on zealot
This is my knife
when karnak twins poop away
Mostly situational
poof
Revolvers / Laspistol/ Flamer
ooh that knife is so pretty
also what makes Haymaker so good?
this is not salvageable right ๐ญ
overall cleave from the weapon
got such a good base
hadron fucked me over
does anyone know what causes Error 2014?
Stamina to maniac and rev to rampage, it'll hold out till you get better
i think itโs your internet
i guess, yea
how's the mk VI knife? also how do you even use knives
They're working on a fix, they've known about it since late Oct but don't have an exact cause
You throw em.
It's based
Trying easier runs to figure out is always nice
got this gift from brunt at green but I dont have enough plasteel to keep going yet, I assume the roll id actually want is flak+maniac, rending blessing + ?????
the issue i have with it rn, is basically my game will randomly blackscreen on load and then i cant join another lobby until i restart my pc
Not on melee
The Tigrus looks like the ram stick in my computer that darktide exploded
uncanny and precog or executor is what you want, and flak maniac pretty sure
let me rev it up and destroy my computer
executor actually works now so it's solid
Get it to transcendent, if it rolls precog, lacerate, executor or uncanny change out mercy killer for sumn else. Perks wise whichever of the two rolls worse swap it to flak4
Uncanny works somewhat for a compensation for not having a carapac perk.
uncanny is the minimum requirement on knife
YOUR UNCANNY
ty all, anything I should know about actually using the thing? also any recommended ranged pairings?
there are lots of solid ranged weapons, basically just not lasguns or agri HH
best ranged are zarona revolver, agri brauto, flamer, kant shotty
other good ones, columnus brauto/IAG, lawbringer, the other 2 headhunters
Carapace perk isn't really necessary, even without ability being up you can tear thru a crusher with a few crits if you have uncanny. Plus crusher is the only carapace unit that is actually mostly carapace, the rest are flak or unyielding
ye I like running old revolver, just didnt know if it was like super good at hordes (So i shouldnt run flamer) or single target (so then maybe flamer)
You do not run aurics?
if its decent at most things then once I get to trancendant ill run revolver w it
game just crashed cause of "low memory" someone explain this stupidity?
how to get everyone to instantly ignore your takes: "bro do you not run aurics"
@fallen oriole here's a combo list for it too, also to add one more. Block attack into heavy x2, light, then repeat heavy x2 and light combo
revolver is just kind of the strongest weapon in the game, but you will suffer a bit for horde clear and what not
Memory leak, they're working on it but no clue how long it'll take. See how many you can run before crash, when you get to the last you gotta close and reset the game
kant shotty is a good alternative that can do widespread damage
as well as snipe
same with lawbringer but lawbringer has worse overall clear and worse versus mixed hordes
Had a simultaneous crash with 3 players in a disc call a couple days ago that was interesting ng
I run exclusively aurics, these are all new knife matches with this exact knife.
Everyoneโs game closed at the same second. Something has that power
Personal prefrence

second way to get everyone to ignore your takes: "it's just personal preference"
ok
reaver or not but can't aquaint for a teammate running a knife build in the team?
is getting the mystery weapons worth it for melk bux? Arent they high rolls?
Bro do you not run sedition?
no they are as bad as brunts
so whats the point?
there is no point
the only use for mystery shop is if you have a huge excess of melk coin and need curios on a new character
they should make those 350+ rolls, and they would be useful imo
Mystery shop is just worst bruntโs no
Itโs what people used before bruntโs existed
Psure some people did
the only thing its good for is spending 10k marks on curios if you have literally no good curios on a class
Considering the other alternatives was afk shop simulator
you can't even select which weapon to roll
quick check would martyrdom chaxe be alright
I just use melks if I see a funny blessing
yes
Martyrdom can work with anything I thought
Marty works with everything pretty much
yeah figures
just wanted to make sure i wasnt making a mistake
not sure if i just miss martyrdom but ive felt a bit off my game with new chaxe
I do not know chaxe secrets, maybe someone here atm does
but I assume you have at least slaughterer/headtaker/thrust
ye
only thrust 3 rn sadly but eventually
Hitting carapace with hsword hurts
nothing compares to hsword
think ill swap off flamer for kant shotty
but uh, new evis is supposedly solid for single targets and decent for hordes
Why is the limit on blocked players only 10?
A little yes
wait when did i get this
oh its got low shredder anyways
Like cog hammer
new evis is just like, brain off lmb spam for hordes and heavies for single target
Overhead heavies*
Hmm sounds like my kinda weapon
Iโll buy one and test out the moveset in meat grinder
Tho I canโt play darktide rn anyways. Idk if I broke my mouse when I beat orthus hard or some shit but it doesnโt register my clicks in the most inconvenient of times
game eating inputs is pretty standard
Nah itโs my mouse this time
ah
Cuz I noticed it happened in different games
Like in MMO Iโm trying to spot heal and I click on the tank and it just doesnโt register
And the tank fucking dies
whats so good abt laspistol
Boss dps, fast movement speed, fast swap. It complements weapons like hsword.
new evis looks pretty cool too
i wish they'd give us a nice evis skin
i still prefer the old one but i like using the new one too. never can have enough toys
damn i cant decide between HS9 or rashad. HS9 does insane maniac damage, but rashad handles carapace better
It depends on your secondary weapon
i like kant for rager walls
too bad scab ragers aren't maniac, then the HS9 might have an edge
Have you tried agripinaa pattern braced autogun? It works better vs ragers than kantrael.
no but I will now, I have tons of resources saved up
would a shotgun on zealot be a bad idea?
It's also good vs carapace if you use fury of the faithful btw
Not at all
But kantrael is better than other shotguns for a zealot
that the flame shotgun?
Yes
no, I've seen people perform well with both the kantrael and agri shotguns
i think I can make this work
not a bad idea at all
kantrael (fire shotgun) is a mainstay for many zealot builds
the lawbringer shotgun is really good too
the only shotgun that's questionable is agripina (slug shotgun)
the agri is better on vet
nah I've seen a decent amount of zealots perform well using the agri
not as well as using the og revolver with the exception of 1 but still
Yeah you only need to swap both perks to flakiac
It's not horrible...
"It could be worse..." >.>
Exactly
Hadron do be doing this, most of the time...

its smackdown -> uncanny, then sprint eff -> flak yeah?
Probably
Hell... you might even get somewhere doing smackdown - uncanny, mercy killer - executioner
nothin wrong with sprinting forever
for better horde clear, anyway
I wouldn't advise doing that, but, it's a thought anyway
definitely a choice one could make
Ideal? Not a chance in hell. A questionable choice that could help in niche scenarios? Maybe.
A way to troll the noobs by clearing hordes a little better? Hehe
trying to remember what blessing for a bonk hammer, thrust and??
slaughterer/headtaker
whichever you prefer, except maybe for the ironhelm which would need slaughterer for more breakpoints >.>
ty
One of the benefits I get from listening to the meta ramble x.x
I went from uh
to
on the kant shotty is there any pref between ds and ff?
I think fire frenzy is prefered, but, deathspitter is also okay
after No Respite, that is
Unless it's the agripinaa shotty which full bore and no respite are the 2 you want >.>
Sometimes I feel like a freaking machine with how I can spit out ideal blessings like that lol
ye i have no respite 4 on it already, changing terrifying barrage to ff4 or ds4
I think ff4 is prefered, is all
yeah it gets to that point doesnt it
ty
Anyone else using the autopistol on the twins? It suck sucks lacking the range in normal auric but if you just spend time in the bossarena...
They made auto bad again ๐ฆ
Okay I only bring the autopistol if my build lacks a way to kill specials immediately
Lost all of its kill power
like trappers
my martyrdom builds don't have throwing knives, so I take the autopistol with that
Heavy laspistol is just better in each statistic and use case
With the 1 exception of inspiring barrage
aw
I should try throwing knives again, unfortunately i suck with them
Inspiring Barrage is amazing for keeping you afloat when you're drowning
don't have any laspistols on me (and kinda lacking funds to make one)
It gets easier when you slow down and wait for enemies to lock themselves in place to do something
The inspiring barrage autopistol suits a panic gamer more than someone who does better while not panicked
Like gunners always stance up and face you before firing, as do trappers and flamers
Best time to chuck a knife at their dome
alas I lack the patience
or hit some random pox walker in front of them
Ragers are a bit trickier, but if you catch them running straight at you, their heads remain fairly stable
Some of their attack strings also make it easy to knife hs too
Just comes with practice
autopistols destroy maniac ragers >.>
You can also soften up a mutant with gunfire, then hs them with a knife
Tends to kill them
autopistol covers the eviscerator, chainaxe, and thammers better than the heavy sword, caxe, and dclaw
Wrong imo
Okay which of those 3 are great for quickly killing a trapper?
of the 1st 3
and I mean one that has the net aimed
Heavy las is better in general, yet again. They nerfed auto too much, you burn through far more ammo and get far less kills as a result.
Ttk needs a bump again
Heavy las can get two headshots on a trapper and you can keep it moving
I am talking brauto vs autopistol. Yes laspistol covers them nice, but, autopistol will kill the trapper in less time without headshots generally
both have the same draw time, but, autopistol I think staggers better iirc
good aim? laspistol, yes
panic gamer like me? I'll take my autopistol
Why stagger when you can instantly hotswap and kill a special
and I have a good laspistol as well.
I don't think you realize what my aiming is >.>
Bad, yeah, I heard
As in can't hit the broad side of a barn door at point blank range sometimes <.<
I'd rather use a braced columnus or an agripnaa at that point
Yes: the laspistol is nice, but, the autopistol isn't covering a damage niche per say
It's about survival and specials
Only downside is a slighter slower draw time
that's why I don't take those on my martyrdom builds
I need something fast for trappers who caught me off guard
and that I am comfortable with
and that can recover my toughness from 0% quickly, on the fly
specifically for martyrdom, and not blazing piety
If you want to stagger everything, just use an ironhelm, or better yet, a crusher
Excluding monsters, crusher is very powerful now
It's power to just disable crusher patrols by just spamming light special attacks is fucking funny
Okay, now what can help me with toughness and trappers? (with martyrdom)
Talent tree for toughness
You're not a panic gamer are you <.<
Not missing headshots with literally any of the other solid ranged weapons
I specifically am only defending the autopistol for a build that lacks quick trapper killing and a back-up way for safety
Even then, just slap maniac on an auto gun and go for the chest
Their health pool is tiny
Anyway, I'm done. I am not going to spell it out for you if you are going to just argue with me
i just got here but im on darkpillwarriors side cos they're usually right
Love the agri
oh this convos dead dead
love the new revolver i live to praise the emperor and fan the hammer
hah
I thinkz i haz 1 othar build wjere i dont use the agri as my ranged option
I swear by the agri
Best pub gun tbh
I just am experienced with survival as the last person alive >.>
Coverz everythin rlly well
while 250% panicked
Distance kills, close kills, killin hordez of gunnerz and shooterz
also: I have no clue wtf I am doing as engineer in rorr atm
just got out of a mission so im super late but yeah, fair enough, I tend to run dclaw + revolver
I run brauto w my dclaw
Run brauto w my hs
Run brauto w my axez
Brauto w my thammerz..
worst fuckin mission I've had in a long time- dropped down to heresy bc I couldnt find a damn mission, had a vet verbally abusing the level 27 zealot
speaking of, does this game have a report button
Hrm
I specifically only run autopistol with my martyrdom builds that don't have a way to insta kill trappers
Brauto will insta kill trappers
the draw time
It's vry fast
Trappers shoot faster when caught off guard
If u hear a trapper just pull it out and kill them
I've been in the situation where my brauto was too slow enough times
I hate 2 be that gloop and i hatez when i zee this zaid but skille issue i guezz
where my throwing knife or autopistol is fast enough
Ive honestly only ever had thst issue when reloadin
cant find it
You've never been caught off guard by a trapper that was silent? lol
with your melee out
Not because of brauto draw time
A silent trapper gets you whether ur usin a shredder, a revolver, or a bolter
If it's stopped and aiming you have less than a second
autopistol has that draw time
The autopistol's draw time is too slow even to kill something that fast
U have 2 draw AND shoot
Guys i got this for zealot. What is the good options to replace perk/blessing?
I havent had any silent trappers recently, just three spawning in each other, that shit sucks
W the agri u can stagger a trapper out of her shooting animation
Which meanz insta deletion of the trap
It just disappears
you do with the autopistol as well...?
unless you're running 20% collateral lol
I specifically am just stating I use it for my own peace of mind and because I do better, overall, with that build
Uh idk 4 the new chsword but replace rev it up for sure
That's almost a godroll chsword
also because it draws faster
all other builds? Doesn't matter the weapon, I have throwing knives so I take my brauto
I never zaid u were wrong 4 usin the shredder over the brauto
Just sayin even in thst instance the brauto still workz
And ive never had a situation where the brauto has failed me even when a trapper is already firin
p sure its crit chance -> maniac and rev -> savage sweep but dont quote me on that
I mean trappers are the main reason I bring the autopistol, secondary reason is toughness regen with that build
It has good damage against armor st range, is accurate enough to snipe distant elites, has great per-shot damage over range, and a very high stagger value
I never rlly considered usin a secondary 4 tness regen..
also it works well with my panic gaming

like it almost feels designed for my type of gaming, even tho it wasn't
Dont EVER use the crit chance perk
I don't use crit chance lol
Ah
4 my normal chsword i use sav sweep and ramp
yeah put maniac or something else over crit chance
only exception I can think of is like thammer. flakiac is just so good
oh fair didnt know that one
The last tick of damage on a rev'd overhead is ridiculous
There's a build okri made w thrust and thunderous
That kills burgles in four max-thrust rev'd heavies
It's insane
wild
I forget that I have more ranged weapons then just the revolver
I have like near god roll lasguns and the graia auto and I just dont use em
columnus brauto + crusher is p fun
the Catachan bleed + back damage is making me go hard
just found out that cameras work very similarly to solar panels
they stop working when you smash them with a hammer, it's true
sure
what curios should I run (not martyr)
Bless 3 Shred is okay if you really not desperate...
yeah but not those perks lol
Okay Zealots can y'all help me real quick. Enlighten me with the Emperor's knowledge
I.WILL.GET.500k.BOSS.DAMAGE
I don't play Zealot so I don't know anything really. During my hard mode attempts I've seen Zealots having like infinite invis during my matches and nearly clutching victory. Is this a glitch or are Zealots just broken
no, you cannot scream "blood for the golden throne" more than 3 times, the inquisition will get you.
oh we just have solid cool down reduction. all of our combat abilities regen pretty quickly
its why we dash / praise so often
So what I'm seeing isn't a glitch you can just chain invis?
what do you mean "chain"
Well I'm just saying I'm talking about how I see Zealots just constantly invisible.
A weapon with high cleave, and a crit build, can do that with this
Since it counts for each hit
So if you hit 8 things
yea im just confused if you mean you're seeing someone permanently invisible or something
Like during the hard mode arena there was Zealot last man standing and they were just invis constantly
like we have crazy cdr
You reduce by 12 seconds
Yeah basically like permanently invisible
i get my chorus back in 3 or 4 swings if im chilling
don't remember the specifics
there it is
Oh so it is a glitch then that makes a lot of sense
Because I was spectating a guy who almost claimed victory for us and he was just killing shit and really never coming out of stealth the entire time.
But it seems like he fucked something up at the end and got himself killed by the brother's aimbot
Which of the perks should I swap, and what to?
weakspot for flak?
actually thats just
change the top one to flak is what id recommend
I can't get True solo to work on Orthus Offensive, bells don't trigger if there is one player, and the first Twin spawn don't trigger, and there is a invisible wall behind his spawn so you can't progress forward. (Sigh) Pain
Any advice for my flamer? Don't have the largest collection of blessings yet
groaners to flak and fan flames to blaze away
Oh dear
Blaze away will have to wait till I can collect it
Sounds like knife propaganda
cica u need to explode
red is online
I knew you were a knife player all along
i already did hard mode
fuck
hey ice
u wanna do hardmode
wtf
D: im doing my army crap now and i was gonna play more bg3 this weekend but this fucking mission came out
need 1 more premade to do hardmode
so even though i have an extra half day of leave i cant even get to half hp on twins lmao
Unfortunate
the army has taught me many things but fighting nurgle twins is not one of them
glad to officially be a part of the guard now though
If you need a extra I can join, im bored out of my mind rn
oh thank fuck
even worse im in the middle of collecting documents to apply to some uni courses
i dont need to do that i need to kill these fucking twins
2 weeks until uni starts for me 
if you want to send me a inv just use this
hey congrats! my government automatically defers my uni stuff until i finish my army so i have 2 more years to apply for stuff
oh jeez
well it sounds like you have a plan at least
ok ICE
I've been playing pubs for a few hours, and they've been extra bad today
Wait, hol' up
Are you both Asian servers?
yep
Mmm
been happening since patch 15
Well, in that case, i'll let you do it on your servers
u have been happening since patch 15
josho has been coming since patch 1
and joshos adhd didnt even mock me for it
yea so who's joining rnrn
i let u live with that mistake
thats exactly what my dad said to my mother about me


right imma go read while we wait
ice r u still coming
immigrations and customs enforcement
just tell him you're an illegal immigrant and he'll be at your door
Feel like I need to farm up some blessings tbh
on god im so bored of zealot i wanna pick psyker
im not aware of how badly they've been nerfed or buffed, but i wanna chuck the rocks again
Just make sure you're looking for t3 blaze away, there is no t4 blaze away
I'll let you do this on Asian servers, dont wanna drag more people into the ping hell
Also i need to eat
ye don't have it at all
@frozen glen imma go smite psyker i think
or just assail
probably better with that horde
im stuck in the fucking load screen
B. Larghm
I have been trying to figure this out for so long lol. I see my gun has 'mobility' as a stat but not my hammer. Does that mean I'm faster with my hammer or gun?
like is no stat higher than a visible stat? how does that work
cause I keep thinking it means I'm slower or somethin
it just means it isnt a stat that gets modified
check the details on the weapon to see exactly
Well that could've gone better
especially because stats tend to be different per weapon despite having the same name, for example on thammer defense affects sprint cost, push cost, dodge distance and dodge speed
but on a chainaxe it affects push cost and sprint cost
how do i stop getting instantly folded and left perpetualy with no toughness?
Ask them nicely to target someone else
sounds like delaying the inevitable
Which one do you think looks better guys?
Thy wrath be swift lets you ignore stagger from gunners and melee, so you wont fold immediately on first hit received if you're in a bad spot
how am i stuck in a loading screen again
Skissue
quitting out again
Run the bat file again if you have mods, try moving the game over to SSD, check file integrity





