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patent patrol
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with the rev up single target thing

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and it's a slower swing speed

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both are crowd clear

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but the old one is faster with less cleave

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while the new one is slower with all cleave

covert blade
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push attack insta rev

hard nexus
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the old evis has much better crowd clear

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because it doesnt have a damage cap

covert blade
patent patrol
hard nexus
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good question

covert blade
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you don't need cleave blessing

hard nexus
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yah because cleave just doesnt work

vale carbon
hard nexus
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old evis feels better to me in most ways

covert blade
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then use it no ones forcing ya

hard nexus
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i know

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i meant it feels like its just, actually better

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i wish the new evis was equal but

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a damage cap is what kills it

bleak apex
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I am forcing you otherwise Iโ€™ll leave a plate of sugar free cookies on your bed

hard nexus
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oh.....

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:(

royal vortex
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do u know whats crazy

covert blade
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makin me hungry at 1am

hard nexus
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josho

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!!!

royal vortex
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the only un-target capped move on old evis

hard nexus
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heblo

royal vortex
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is the h1

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if u used

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any move

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besides this

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u were experiencing target damage caps

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the whole time

hard nexus
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(and lights if i feel special)

royal vortex
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the push attack is target capped

hard nexus
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but

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yah i dont use it for damage

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only for stagger to rev

covert blade
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you use rev l1

clear notch
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ye that's a rev light attack

hard nexus
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huh

clear notch
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the damage is significantly lower

royal vortex
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there's very minimal reason to be concerned about the target caps because in practice the different is marginal

covert blade
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this things lke a swiss army knife

royal vortex
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the only people i will accept this point from

clear notch
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block push, let go and press again so it goes to h2

royal vortex
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are people who use H1 QQ

hard nexus
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h1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qqh1qq

clear notch
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or sprint to cancel it

royal vortex
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because u are otherwise using the weapon in a way where you're incorporating a significant amount of target capped attacks into the combo

clear notch
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hold left click and sprint to repeatedly use h1

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wait shit that got patched

royal vortex
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because i havent seen anyone actually use h1 qq on old evis since they made the weapon deal damage

frozen glen
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yea u can really feel the 4 target cap on the new evis its rlly bad

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dont use it complete garbage

clear notch
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trash fr fr

void iron
left iron
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Very cool, Big E, very cool

patent patrol
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Unyielding enemies is like bosses n stuff right?

silk stratus
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okay Brunt I see you fairly solid purchase from his armory

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Wasn't expecting it

exotic portal
patent patrol
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well, most bosses

void iron
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Yur

patent patrol
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that's what I want on thunder hammer, yes?

exotic portal
patent patrol
void iron
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For boss killin ye its good on hammer

void iron
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Here's the site if you just wanna see everythin

patent patrol
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I only got 56 hours in so

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still figuring out everything

left iron
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Carapace is not good on thammer, stop spreading this. It does not reach any breakpoints to make it worth running over flak/elites

silk stratus
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^

patent patrol
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And here's my finalized hammer. I know it isn't perfect (critical hit damage isn't super great but at least it's extra damage?) but it's good enough to last me a while.

minor sage
patent patrol
minor sage
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You dont want to drop like 20k plaseel chasing a 4 liner

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And still not get it

patent patrol
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it's extra damage

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so.

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at the end of the day, really solid.

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at the end of the day, even if the 4th one isn't the greatest, bonus damage is bonus damage

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right?

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so if there's any 4th one I'd want to get I do not mind this one

minor sage
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Its pretty irrelevant but its fine lol

patent patrol
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better then something that would do worse.

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Also what do y'all think of this? I never really had an 'ammo issue' with this but eh. I kept efficiency 4 on there in case I get a better version so I can earn the blessing

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I thought it's pretty decent but

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idk.

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Reminder, I'm 56 hours in so this is like one of the 'good' things I got.

void iron
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Nah that's a great Kantrael. base stats are huge

patent patrol
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so yeah.

patent patrol
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like the perks or whatever?

livid siren
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deadly -> ghost
ranged ws -> maniacs
perhaps

tropic pelican
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Deadly accurate also requires that you hit a weakspot with a crit just so you know

void iron
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It'll let you challenge gunners safely

tropic pelican
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So if you're not critting when you hit a weakspot you dont get any bonus damage

patent patrol
tropic pelican
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Not gunners

patent patrol
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as a 'weak spot'?

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for most enemies?

tropic pelican
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Trappers and flamers

void iron
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It's the weakspot yes

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But it means the critical damage you do to the weakspot

patent patrol
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idk.

tropic pelican
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They are weakspots but htting weakspots doesnt mean you are critting

void iron
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So you have to crit

livid siren
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gunners are scab/dreg, so flak/unarmoured

patent patrol
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so ig ghost?

void iron
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Ye

patent patrol
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alright. I think I have deadly accurate unlocked at least.

void iron
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Deadly n Headhunter is more of a Vet combo

livid siren
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ghost is the "I'd like to ignore ranged enemies" blessing

zealous basin
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guys im going to hell i was toxic in hunt showdown

void iron
patent patrol
void iron
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and then Maniac over weak spot damage

patent patrol
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Yeah ok

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I'll see if I have it. I don't think I do.

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I can change deadly accurate freely right? cause I changed that slot before

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I think

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i forgot

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lemme check

livid siren
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Yeees

patent patrol
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k then.

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Oh, I have tier 3 ghost

calm salmon
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I come bearing gifts

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enjoy

patent patrol
zealous basin
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i too come bearing gifts

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here u are

void iron
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Then once you can up ghost to tier 4 do that too

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I recommend just saving up your melkbucks from weeklies cause sometimes he'll sell t4 blessins you may be huntin, I've got a few that way

patent patrol
void iron
patent patrol
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or one of em?

calm salmon
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it adds up to 365

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if you do simple addition

void iron
patent patrol
faint lark
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Hello I'm looking to do the damnation twins if anyone is interested in helping ๐Ÿ˜…

void iron
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If youre melee range of em just melee em but if they're far enough out just challenge w your gun

void iron
misty steppe
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Is there a different use for each knife or one is straight up better than the other?

livid siren
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just try not to get caught off guard by the gunners otherwise you will enjoy hotshot lasgun to the back

drowsy steppe
# calm salmon I come bearing gifts

Interesting that you choose the crit CDR node over backstab CDR. And you don't have Scourge or even blazing piety keystone active. And the Evisc you're using doesn't have Shred to proc more crits

void iron
calm salmon
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speeds up horde clear a little bit /shrug

calm salmon
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not really much else to spend the two points on

ripe quest
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I made the same exact comment

calm salmon
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I could grab TWBS

drowsy steppe
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Is that how you try to balance out how broken crit CDR is

calm salmon
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but I just don't

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TWBS is a boring talent

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and shits all over your skill in movement anyway

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since the other three classes don't get to use it

calm salmon
drowsy steppe
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While it's true you don't need TWBS for Zealot. It does give you more comfort playing the class

calm salmon
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But beyond that, its just a ginormous crutch

drowsy steppe
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And depending on the person. The comfort of it is a must have or not

void iron
drowsy steppe
calm salmon
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I'm sure as shit not

subtle cedar
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and backstab CDR is something you have to play into in my experience

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in general weapons who's clear depends on their >0 damage floor do it best

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like old evis

drowsy steppe
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Yeah but, the backstab isn't something you have to precisely aim something in an enemy's back

subtle cedar
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ofc

drowsy steppe
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Just be 180 from an enemy

subtle cedar
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but to really get the most out of it you need to be doing a relatively tight circle around a given enemy

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while keeping them from turning throughs tagger

misty steppe
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Throwing knife used to inherit combat blade blessings right? Does this still happen? And with the new mk4 too?

light holly
drowsy steppe
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Real value is having backstabber active for that 20% more damage regardless of where you aim behind an enemy

frozen glen
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the real value is giving a boss backshots and dealing more dmg

light holly
frozen glen
exotic portal
tame mirage
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lol

radiant ferry
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zealot chat

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what am i doin w this

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or is it fucked

patent patrol
patent patrol
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just with some extra cleave to help you against hordes

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idk tho

zealous basin
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@drowsy steppe you

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you

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watch my hunt clip

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its funny

zealous basin
hardy lake
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its so good the game struggle to load the pic

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too much DPS

patent patrol
void iron
patent patrol
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obviously it's stats can be higher but lol

void iron
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For Zealot I'd say yeah it's near perfect

livid siren
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the depravity of the mg4 lasgun

drowsy steppe
patent patrol
drowsy steppe
hardy lake
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you dont put the bless with 90% weakspot dmg ont crit ?

zealous basin
patent patrol
zealous basin
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me when injuns trespass on my brinery

patent patrol
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to engage reapers and gunners better

drowsy steppe
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You got that fuckin

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Get off my lawn type energy

patent patrol
void iron
void iron
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Plus you need headhunter, deadly only works if the weak spot hit also crits

patent patrol
hardy lake
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i mean this + crit perk its more than 1/3

patent patrol
void iron
patent patrol
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to determine?

hardy lake
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'id play pure crit mg12 build and swap for a crit melee, like HS, catachan or even crusher

patent patrol
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Here's my tree. It's meant to be a sorta 'melee wave clear' build.

void iron
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I mean tree is kinda up to your playstyle

hardy lake
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i prefer martyr dom for hammer

zealous basin
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i prefer marty the dom

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yall ever met him

hardy lake
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or momentum

void iron
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I like inexorable on my hammer for atk spd n dmg

zealous basin
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real nice guy but great in his role

patent patrol
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I think.

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But yeah.

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That's it.

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it's meant to be a sorta 'ol reliable' sorta thing.

void iron
patent patrol
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so

void iron
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Your tree is fine, I'd say to make a few with different builds/weapons you wanna try so you can find your playstyle

patent patrol
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run in, swing, nuke enemies, turn around, pop the gunner that's out of melee range

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I'm very aggressive

void iron
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Then you chillin ๐Ÿ˜Ž

patent patrol
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XD

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I'm also a dodger more-so than a blocker. I only really block when I'm out of dodges or fighting the daemonhost.

void iron
keen silo
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hows this weapon?

void iron
keen silo
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can i rather build with this evisc?
its only lacking in mobility

ripe quest
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That's a good base.

keen silo
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awesome
was worried cuz its got low rating

keen silo
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brunt had it in his shop

ripe quest
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The rating will affect your blessings and perks but like, 360+ is usually the sweet spot so that's a fine base.

dense field
void iron
keen silo
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welp, rip that fine piece
i love my luck

void iron
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Let's see the last roll

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:)

keen silo
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no more plasteel ๐Ÿ˜ญ

void iron
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Shiii rip

keen silo
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its a shit piece now anyway
3 unfavorable stats

void iron
patent patrol
sullen eagle
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still tryna decide between agri and zarona for martyrvisc zealot

dense karma
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and the damage for cdr node

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for i want to say sustained assault

patent patrol
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Ah ok. I think I like my current build but I'll try it.

dense karma
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damage for cdr is not good

patent patrol
dense karma
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what i said

patent patrol
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I'm using a long cooldown ult so.

dense karma
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it is a bad node

patent patrol
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i thought it'd be good to be able to pop it more

nova saddle
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I just can't win the new mission on Damnation and it keeps me aways from sleeping at night

dense karma
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it will not help you get your ult when you need it because you will just be dead

patent patrol
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What about this though? This seems pretty good. and has certainly helped me. Idk.

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anyway I'll try this.

dense karma
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that is just not a lot i dont think

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pount much better spent elsewhere

patent patrol
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ah ok then

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i'll try this

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I can always throw in combat ability regeneration on my curios I suppose

void iron
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Here's my take, I'd argue you don't need thy wrath be swift because you have Chorus, so when you start getting shot or slowed by enemies you're trying to get near you can just pop it to push them back and get on top of them. This gives you toughness dmg reduc in coherency, as well as the dmg reduc to allies from middle tree and damage reduc from dodge since you like doin that.

dense field
exotic portal
sullen eagle
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can i get a fun stealthot build

exotic portal
sullen eagle
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what abt weapons

exotic portal
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cleave hordes do not really need to dodge

sullen eagle
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why not thammer/

void iron
void iron
exotic portal
sullen eagle
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ok so cleave knife? which one is that

exotic portal
sullen eagle
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also im kinda dissapoitned with agri revolver

exotic portal
sullen eagle
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lmfao

exotic portal
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Wouldn't even run flamer with the new thing going for it.

subtle cedar
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man, new evis is such a head empty weapon rofl

exotic portal
subtle cedar
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headtaker + shred

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martyr build

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just run into like, pretty much everything and spam left click and things just die

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-including crushers-

exotic portal
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axe one shots, pops heads off, not much with those ravagers

subtle cedar
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oh yeah like, lightspamming down crushers with it isn't exactly the best way to kill crushers

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but it's totally doable

subtle cedar
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lol

blazing fossil
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i loved that show lol

exotic portal
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would'a paid less than 5-7 million for a new perk/blessing bout a million

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Just to skip a run

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One dagger is 9200?

sullen eagle
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emprah's gift

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basically a godroll, except...

patent patrol
sullen eagle
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ayo???

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i think emprah felt bad for me

void iron
exotic portal
patent patrol
sullen eagle
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how do i do big dmg on knife?

buoyant rune
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what u guys think of the heavy las pistol?

sullen eagle
patent patrol
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her

patent patrol
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so TECHNICALLY I was still right

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lol

patent patrol
sullen eagle
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how do i get the big single hit out of this knife

void iron
void iron
crisp glade
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Hello so Iโ€™m a vet looking to become a zealot what weapons would yโ€™all recommend I use

exotic portal
sullen eagle
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i mean what combo

patent patrol
sullen eagle
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also holy shit this is actually insane

exotic portal
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Heavy sword is usually a good startoff

patent patrol
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do you want an assassin sneaky backstabber build? a 'run in blindly and swing and watch as things drop' build?

sullen eagle
patent patrol
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a tank build?

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a support build?

sullen eagle
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is there any way to take an aura other than loner? i dont wanna be an asshole lol

crisp glade
crisp glade
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Did use shout from time to time as well

sullen eagle
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i dont like loner aura

patent patrol
sullen eagle
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makes me feel bad

exotic portal
sullen eagle
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ah its not possible to take an aura other than loner in this build

crisp glade
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So guessing zealot is a more offensive melee focus sort of vet?

void iron
# sullen eagle i mean what combo

So that knife is actually p interesting, it's got a few diff dps techniques. You have general horde clear with heavy, light x3, repeat. Single target damage you can do light, heavy x2, repeat for precise attacks / heavy x3 if it's an enemy without a super specific weak spot

patent patrol
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while vet is about shooting everything in the face

sullen eagle
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this actually looks super fucken fun

patent patrol
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Zealot is about being in their face ruthlessly attacking

sullen eagle
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lemme roll my knife

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what gun should i use with this

exotic portal
sullen eagle
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yknow

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i normally hate laspistol

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but i think you're cookin

patent patrol
# exotic portal nop

wdym nope? In most cases Vet's the one standing back shooting stuff with the occasional melee while Zealot is the primarily melee occasionally gun.

sullen eagle
patent patrol
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in a good team anyway

exotic portal
crisp glade
patent patrol
sullen eagle
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ruined?

exotic portal
sullen eagle
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fuck you hadron

exotic portal
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two 3 points pluss stam and or//// groaners..

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yikes

sullen eagle
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also those blessings are just trash right

void iron
# sullen eagle i dont like loner aura

Loner is fine if you don't always run off, it's actually insanely useful for gunner hunting with toughness regen on your curios, let's you stay tanky while tearing thru enemies, and you can always stealth out n head back to your team if need be

patent patrol
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damn

sullen eagle
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eh, still usable for now at least lol

exotic portal
patent patrol
sullen eagle
void iron
# sullen eagle ruined?

For now, swap groaners to flak and mercy to either precog or uncanny, it'll actually work p well for ya in the meantime

sullen eagle
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i usually run hi3/3strom so itll be fine for now

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ok so horde clear combo for knife?

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and how do i get the big dmg hit? im assuming if i can afford it, whiff whiff F stab

exotic portal
void iron
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You can also buy white n green knives from brunt just yo get em to blue so you can farm blessings, works sometimes

exotic portal
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overall lacerate

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works with both light and heavy attacks

void iron
exotic portal
faint marsh
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i made a twitch bc boyfriend convinced me to

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itโ€™s over

sullen eagle
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oh i saw ty

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i mean comboes yeah

void iron
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Oh

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Lul

exotic portal
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running carapac with it also nice

void iron
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With crit you blow throw cara p easy

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Another combo is to block attack into heavy x2, light, repeat heavy x2 light

exotic portal
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combos with it totally possible.

sullen eagle
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if i get blackscreen during load its joever right

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just close?

exotic portal
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it is a trick of the trade weapon after all cause of attack speed

void iron
sullen eagle
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over a minute so yeah its joever

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also the knife does a SHOCKING amount of dmg

exotic portal
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no please, nerf.KEKW_ogryn

sullen eagle
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please dont nerf, its fun

void iron
exotic portal
sullen eagle
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not having any keystone mods is rough tho

void iron
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@sullen eagle also if you time stealth correctly you can get two enhanced hits off

sullen eagle
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oh? that sounds insane

exotic portal
zealous basin
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u guys should

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u should

void iron
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You're p much only missing one and it's perfectly fine w/o it

sullen eagle
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so im gonna want haymaker/lacerate?

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what do they od

exotic portal
sullen eagle
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?

sullen eagle
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im confused

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im asking what blessings imma want

void iron
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I'd go for this with what you have available on this knife

sullen eagle
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why flak?

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also im just gonna end up scrapping it for a refund

void iron
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Thought you could swap out stamina instead of groaners just to increase waveclear

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Flak is good vs maulers, scab ragers, n most gunners

sullen eagle
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but i 1 tap them anyways?

void iron
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Here's all the enemies with flak armor

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With ability yeah you'll one tap, but without the bonus damage is super useful to clear enemies quickly

hot thunder
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what perks on zarona revolver? got crit chance on it. Flak or carapace for the other one?

exotic portal
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or the possibility to change the weapon overall

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like having surgery 4 on a 380 revolver

crisp glade
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Whatโ€™s a good range weapon to use on zealot

void iron
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This is my knife

cerulean moth
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when karnak twins poop away

exotic portal
cerulean moth
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poof

void iron
sullen eagle
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also what makes Haymaker so good?

keen silo
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this is not salvageable right ๐Ÿ˜ญ

exotic portal
cerulean moth
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its ah

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one of the evis of all time

keen silo
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got such a good base
hadron fucked me over

stiff mirage
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as she does

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hand hadron a godroll and sheโ€™ll give you tier 2 blessings

sullen eagle
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does anyone know what causes Error 2014?

void iron
keen silo
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also whats the best blessing for evisc

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need to know

stiff mirage
fallen oriole
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how's the mk VI knife? also how do you even use knives

void iron
exotic portal
exotic portal
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Trying easier runs to figure out is always nice

fallen oriole
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got this gift from brunt at green but I dont have enough plasteel to keep going yet, I assume the roll id actually want is flak+maniac, rending blessing + ?????

sullen eagle
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the issue i have with it rn, is basically my game will randomly blackscreen on load and then i cant join another lobby until i restart my pc

fair zephyr
keen silo
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I'm crying

fading vale
fair zephyr
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let me rev it up and destroy my computer

fading vale
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executor actually works now so it's solid

void iron
exotic portal
fading vale
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uncanny is the minimum requirement on knife

cerulean moth
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YOUR UNCANNY

fallen oriole
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ty all, anything I should know about actually using the thing? also any recommended ranged pairings?

fading vale
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there are lots of solid ranged weapons, basically just not lasguns or agri HH

cerulean moth
fading vale
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best ranged are zarona revolver, agri brauto, flamer, kant shotty

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other good ones, columnus brauto/IAG, lawbringer, the other 2 headhunters

void iron
fair zephyr
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Yhorm

fallen oriole
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ye I like running old revolver, just didnt know if it was like super good at hordes (So i shouldnt run flamer) or single target (so then maybe flamer)

fallen oriole
crisp glade
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game just crashed cause of "low memory" someone explain this stupidity?

fading vale
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how to get everyone to instantly ignore your takes: "bro do you not run aurics"

fair zephyr
void iron
fading vale
void iron
fading vale
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kant shotty is a good alternative that can do widespread damage

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as well as snipe

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same with lawbringer but lawbringer has worse overall clear and worse versus mixed hordes

fair zephyr
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Had a simultaneous crash with 3 players in a disc call a couple days ago that was interesting ng

void iron
fair zephyr
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Everyoneโ€™s game closed at the same second. Something has that power

fair zephyr
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Postulate you sword swinging bastards

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Then we can crash pubs

void iron
fading vale
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second way to get everyone to ignore your takes: "it's just personal preference"

exotic portal
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reaver or not but can't aquaint for a teammate running a knife build in the team?

blazing fossil
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is getting the mystery weapons worth it for melk bux? Arent they high rolls?

left iron
fading vale
blazing fossil
fading vale
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there is no point

blazing fossil
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LOL

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after this mission i might buy one for kicks

fading vale
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the only use for mystery shop is if you have a huge excess of melk coin and need curios on a new character

blazing fossil
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they should make those 350+ rolls, and they would be useful imo

mental coral
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Mystery shop is just worst bruntโ€™s no

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Itโ€™s what people used before bruntโ€™s existed

fading vale
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nobody used it

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ever

mental coral
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Psure some people did

royal vortex
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the only thing its good for is spending 10k marks on curios if you have literally no good curios on a class

mental coral
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Considering the other alternatives was afk shop simulator

fading vale
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you can't even select which weapon to roll

mental coral
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But no reason to use it now either way

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Lmao true true

dense karma
#

quick check would martyrdom chaxe be alright

mental coral
#

I just use melks if I see a funny blessing

fading vale
mental coral
#

Martyrdom can work with anything I thought

fading vale
#

Marty works with everything pretty much

dense karma
#

yeah figures

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just wanted to make sure i wasnt making a mistake

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not sure if i just miss martyrdom but ive felt a bit off my game with new chaxe

fading vale
#

I do not know chaxe secrets, maybe someone here atm does

#

but I assume you have at least slaughterer/headtaker/thrust

dense karma
#

ye

mental coral
#

How is new eviscerator compared to hsword

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Cuz uh

dense karma
#

only thrust 3 rn sadly but eventually

mental coral
#

Hitting carapace with hsword hurts

fading vale
#

nothing compares to hsword

dense karma
#

think ill swap off flamer for kant shotty

fading vale
#

but uh, new evis is supposedly solid for single targets and decent for hordes

exotic portal
#

Why is the limit on blocked players only 10?

left iron
#

Derpy, you played VT2 right?

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Its exe sword

mental coral
#

A little yes

dense karma
#

wait when did i get this

mental coral
#

I hate the exe sword lmao

#

I used all the lmb spam weapons

dense karma
#

oh its got low shredder anyways

mental coral
#

Like cog hammer

left iron
#

Well, thats pretty much what it is

#

High damage heavies and sweep lights

fading vale
#

new evis is just like, brain off lmb spam for hordes and heavies for single target

left iron
#

Overhead heavies*

mental coral
#

Iโ€™ll buy one and test out the moveset in meat grinder

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Tho I canโ€™t play darktide rn anyways. Idk if I broke my mouse when I beat orthus hard or some shit but it doesnโ€™t register my clicks in the most inconvenient of times

fading vale
#

game eating inputs is pretty standard

mental coral
#

Nah itโ€™s my mouse this time

fading vale
#

ah

mental coral
#

Cuz I noticed it happened in different games

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Like in MMO Iโ€™m trying to spot heal and I click on the tank and it just doesnโ€™t register

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And the tank fucking dies

sullen eagle
#

whats so good abt laspistol

dense field
#

Boss dps, fast movement speed, fast swap. It complements weapons like hsword.

craggy python
#

new evis looks pretty cool too

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i wish they'd give us a nice evis skin

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i still prefer the old one but i like using the new one too. never can have enough toys

blazing fossil
#

damn i cant decide between HS9 or rashad. HS9 does insane maniac damage, but rashad handles carapace better

dense field
#

It depends on your secondary weapon

blazing fossil
#

too bad scab ragers aren't maniac, then the HS9 might have an edge

dense field
#

Have you tried agripinaa pattern braced autogun? It works better vs ragers than kantrael.

blazing fossil
crisp glade
#

would a shotgun on zealot be a bad idea?

dense field
dense field
#

But kantrael is better than other shotguns for a zealot

crisp glade
dense field
#

Yes

rigid trellis
blazing fossil
#

i think I can make this work

vocal pulsar
#

kantrael (fire shotgun) is a mainstay for many zealot builds

#

the lawbringer shotgun is really good too

#

the only shotgun that's questionable is agripina (slug shotgun)

#

the agri is better on vet

rigid trellis
#

nah I've seen a decent amount of zealots perform well using the agri

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not as well as using the og revolver with the exception of 1 but still

dense field
fallen oriole
#

hadron why

placid fiber
#

Hadron be like

dense field
#

It's not horrible...

placid fiber
#

"It could be worse..." >.>

dense field
#

Exactly

placid fiber
versed atlas
fallen oriole
#

its smackdown -> uncanny, then sprint eff -> flak yeah?

placid fiber
#

Probably

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Hell... you might even get somewhere doing smackdown - uncanny, mercy killer - executioner

fallen oriole
#

nothin wrong with sprinting forever

placid fiber
#

for better horde clear, anyway

#

I wouldn't advise doing that, but, it's a thought anyway

fallen oriole
#

definitely a choice one could make

placid fiber
#

Ideal? Not a chance in hell. A questionable choice that could help in niche scenarios? Maybe.

#

A way to troll the noobs by clearing hordes a little better? Hehe

potent shuttle
#

trying to remember what blessing for a bonk hammer, thrust and??

placid fiber
#

slaughterer/headtaker

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whichever you prefer, except maybe for the ironhelm which would need slaughterer for more breakpoints >.>

potent shuttle
#

ty

placid fiber
#

One of the benefits I get from listening to the meta ramble x.x

#

I went from uh

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to

fallen oriole
#

on the kant shotty is there any pref between ds and ff?

placid fiber
#

after No Respite, that is

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Unless it's the agripinaa shotty which full bore and no respite are the 2 you want >.>

#

Sometimes I feel like a freaking machine with how I can spit out ideal blessings like that lol

fallen oriole
#

ye i have no respite 4 on it already, changing terrifying barrage to ff4 or ds4

placid fiber
#

I think ff4 is prefered, is all

fallen oriole
#

ty

ashen prairie
#

Anyone else using the autopistol on the twins? It suck sucks lacking the range in normal auric but if you just spend time in the bossarena...

opaque tangle
#

They made auto bad again ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

placid fiber
#

Okay I only bring the autopistol if my build lacks a way to kill specials immediately

opaque tangle
#

Lost all of its kill power

placid fiber
#

like trappers

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my martyrdom builds don't have throwing knives, so I take the autopistol with that

opaque tangle
#

Heavy laspistol is just better in each statistic and use case

placid fiber
#

With the 1 exception of inspiring barrage

ashen prairie
#

aw

fallen oriole
#

I should try throwing knives again, unfortunately i suck with them

placid fiber
#

Inspiring Barrage is amazing for keeping you afloat when you're drowning

ashen prairie
#

don't have any laspistols on me (and kinda lacking funds to make one)

opaque tangle
placid fiber
#

The inspiring barrage autopistol suits a panic gamer more than someone who does better while not panicked

opaque tangle
#

Like gunners always stance up and face you before firing, as do trappers and flamers

#

Best time to chuck a knife at their dome

fallen oriole
#

or hit some random pox walker in front of them

placid fiber
#

I do too, but, the knives cover my brauto really well

#

on my other builds

opaque tangle
#

Ragers are a bit trickier, but if you catch them running straight at you, their heads remain fairly stable

placid fiber
#

ragers I just use my brauto on >.>

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or my autopistol if I am using martyrdom

opaque tangle
#

Some of their attack strings also make it easy to knife hs too

#

Just comes with practice

placid fiber
#

autopistols destroy maniac ragers >.>

fallen oriole
#

I just parry ragers, its very funny

#

huge fan of dclaw's parry

placid fiber
#

with a dclaw you would probably want a brauto

#

and not an autopistol

opaque tangle
#

You can also soften up a mutant with gunfire, then hs them with a knife

#

Tends to kill them

placid fiber
#

autopistol covers the eviscerator, chainaxe, and thammers better than the heavy sword, caxe, and dclaw

opaque tangle
#

Wrong imo

placid fiber
#

Okay which of those 3 are great for quickly killing a trapper?

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of the 1st 3

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and I mean one that has the net aimed

opaque tangle
#

Heavy las is better in general, yet again. They nerfed auto too much, you burn through far more ammo and get far less kills as a result.

#

Ttk needs a bump again

#

Heavy las can get two headshots on a trapper and you can keep it moving

placid fiber
#

I am talking brauto vs autopistol. Yes laspistol covers them nice, but, autopistol will kill the trapper in less time without headshots generally

#

both have the same draw time, but, autopistol I think staggers better iirc

#

good aim? laspistol, yes

#

panic gamer like me? I'll take my autopistol

opaque tangle
#

Why stagger when you can instantly hotswap and kill a special

placid fiber
#

and I have a good laspistol as well.

#

I don't think you realize what my aiming is >.>

opaque tangle
#

Bad, yeah, I heard

placid fiber
#

As in can't hit the broad side of a barn door at point blank range sometimes <.<

opaque tangle
#

I'd rather use a braced columnus or an agripnaa at that point

placid fiber
#

Yes: the laspistol is nice, but, the autopistol isn't covering a damage niche per say

#

It's about survival and specials

opaque tangle
#

Only downside is a slighter slower draw time

placid fiber
#

that's why I don't take those on my martyrdom builds

#

I need something fast for trappers who caught me off guard

#

and that I am comfortable with

potent shuttle
placid fiber
#

and that can recover my toughness from 0% quickly, on the fly

#

specifically for martyrdom, and not blazing piety

opaque tangle
#

If you want to stagger everything, just use an ironhelm, or better yet, a crusher

#

Excluding monsters, crusher is very powerful now

#

It's power to just disable crusher patrols by just spamming light special attacks is fucking funny

placid fiber
#

Okay, now what can help me with toughness and trappers? (with martyrdom)

opaque tangle
placid fiber
#

You're not a panic gamer are you <.<

opaque tangle
#

Not missing headshots with literally any of the other solid ranged weapons

placid fiber
#

I specifically am only defending the autopistol for a build that lacks quick trapper killing and a back-up way for safety

opaque tangle
#

Even then, just slap maniac on an auto gun and go for the chest

#

Their health pool is tiny

placid fiber
#

Anyway, I'm done. I am not going to spell it out for you if you are going to just argue with me

craggy python
#

i just got here but im on darkpillwarriors side cos they're usually right

copper hawk
#

Love the agri

craggy python
#

oh this convos dead dead

#

love the new revolver i live to praise the emperor and fan the hammer

placid fiber
#

hah

copper hawk
#

I thinkz i haz 1 othar build wjere i dont use the agri as my ranged option

#

I swear by the agri

#

Best pub gun tbh

placid fiber
#

I just am experienced with survival as the last person alive >.>

copper hawk
#

Coverz everythin rlly well

placid fiber
#

while 250% panicked

copper hawk
#

Distance kills, close kills, killin hordez of gunnerz and shooterz

placid fiber
#

also: I have no clue wtf I am doing as engineer in rorr atm

fallen oriole
copper hawk
#

I run brauto w my dclaw

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Run brauto w my hs

#

Run brauto w my axez

#

Brauto w my thammerz..

fallen oriole
#

worst fuckin mission I've had in a long time- dropped down to heresy bc I couldnt find a damn mission, had a vet verbally abusing the level 27 zealot

#

speaking of, does this game have a report button

copper hawk
#

Yah

#

U go 2 the social tab i think

void lichen
placid fiber
#

I specifically only run autopistol with my martyrdom builds that don't have a way to insta kill trappers

copper hawk
#

Brauto will insta kill trappers

placid fiber
#

the draw time

copper hawk
#

It's vry fast

placid fiber
#

Trappers shoot faster when caught off guard

copper hawk
#

If u hear a trapper just pull it out and kill them

placid fiber
#

I've been in the situation where my brauto was too slow enough times

copper hawk
#

I hate 2 be that gloop and i hatez when i zee this zaid but skille issue i guezz

placid fiber
#

where my throwing knife or autopistol is fast enough

copper hawk
#

Ive honestly only ever had thst issue when reloadin

fallen oriole
copper hawk
#

The reload can be tedious

#

But ive ran the agri brauto since closed beta

placid fiber
#

You've never been caught off guard by a trapper that was silent? lol

#

with your melee out

copper hawk
#

Not because of brauto draw time

#

A silent trapper gets you whether ur usin a shredder, a revolver, or a bolter

placid fiber
#

I mean caught off guard as in it is already aiming

#

but hasn't shot

copper hawk
#

If it's stopped and aiming you have less than a second

placid fiber
#

autopistol has that draw time

copper hawk
#

The autopistol's draw time is too slow even to kill something that fast

#

U have 2 draw AND shoot

wind heath
#

Guys i got this for zealot. What is the good options to replace perk/blessing?

fallen oriole
#

I havent had any silent trappers recently, just three spawning in each other, that shit sucks

copper hawk
#

W the agri u can stagger a trapper out of her shooting animation

#

Which meanz insta deletion of the trap

#

It just disappears

placid fiber
#

you do with the autopistol as well...?

#

unless you're running 20% collateral lol

#

I specifically am just stating I use it for my own peace of mind and because I do better, overall, with that build

copper hawk
#

That's almost a godroll chsword

placid fiber
#

also because it draws faster

#

all other builds? Doesn't matter the weapon, I have throwing knives so I take my brauto

copper hawk
#

I never zaid u were wrong 4 usin the shredder over the brauto

#

Just sayin even in thst instance the brauto still workz

placid fiber
#

sometimes

#

not always

copper hawk
#

And ive never had a situation where the brauto has failed me even when a trapper is already firin

frank night
#

NEVER

#

have you

copper hawk
#

What i like most about the brauto is how versatile it is

#

Never have i ever

fallen oriole
placid fiber
#

I mean trappers are the main reason I bring the autopistol, secondary reason is toughness regen with that build

copper hawk
#

It has good damage against armor st range, is accurate enough to snipe distant elites, has great per-shot damage over range, and a very high stagger value

#

I never rlly considered usin a secondary 4 tness regen..

placid fiber
#

also it works well with my panic gaming

copper hawk
placid fiber
#

like it almost feels designed for my type of gaming, even tho it wasn't

copper hawk
#

Dont EVER use the crit chance perk

placid fiber
#

I don't use crit chance lol

copper hawk
#

5% is a miniscule increase in a chance

#

Im talkin 2 the guiye above a bit

placid fiber
#

Ah

copper hawk
#

4 my normal chsword i use sav sweep and ramp

placid fiber
copper hawk
#

Yah

#

Flakiac is what u want for most wpns in the game

#

Chswords included

upbeat torrent
#

solo twins

fallen oriole
#

only exception I can think of is like thammer. flakiac is just so good

copper hawk
#

Chaxe

#

Unyielding and maniac for the xii

#

Specifically as a boss shredder

fallen oriole
#

oh fair didnt know that one

copper hawk
#

The last tick of damage on a rev'd overhead is ridiculous

#

There's a build okri made w thrust and thunderous

#

That kills burgles in four max-thrust rev'd heavies

#

It's insane

fallen oriole
#

wild

#

I forget that I have more ranged weapons then just the revolver

#

I have like near god roll lasguns and the graia auto and I just dont use em

royal vortex
#

columnus brauto + crusher is p fun

nova saddle
#

the Catachan bleed + back damage is making me go hard

steep flame
#

just found out that cameras work very similarly to solar panels

royal vortex
#

they stop working when you smash them with a hammer, it's true

steep flame
#

sure

obtuse solstice
#

what curios should I run (not martyr)

dense field
#

hadron please I beg you

stable cypress
#

yeah but not those perks lol

charred mason
#

Okay Zealots can y'all help me real quick. Enlighten me with the Emperor's knowledge

left iron
#

I.WILL.GET.500k.BOSS.DAMAGE

charred mason
#

I don't play Zealot so I don't know anything really. During my hard mode attempts I've seen Zealots having like infinite invis during my matches and nearly clutching victory. Is this a glitch or are Zealots just broken

craggy python
craggy python
#

its why we dash / praise so often

charred mason
#

So what I'm seeing isn't a glitch you can just chain invis?

craggy python
#

what do you mean "chain"

charred mason
#

Well I'm just saying I'm talking about how I see Zealots just constantly invisible.

craggy python
#

i mean

#

yea we can do that

left iron
#

A weapon with high cleave, and a crit build, can do that with this

#

Since it counts for each hit

#

So if you hit 8 things

craggy python
#

yea im just confused if you mean you're seeing someone permanently invisible or something

charred mason
#

Like during the hard mode arena there was Zealot last man standing and they were just invis constantly

craggy python
#

like we have crazy cdr

left iron
#

You reduce by 12 seconds

charred mason
#

Yeah basically like permanently invisible

royal vortex
#

there's an infinite invisibilty bug

#

something to do with sprinting when you ult

craggy python
#

i get my chorus back in 3 or 4 swings if im chilling

royal vortex
#

don't remember the specifics

craggy python
#

there it is

charred mason
#

Oh so it is a glitch then that makes a lot of sense

#

Because I was spectating a guy who almost claimed victory for us and he was just killing shit and really never coming out of stealth the entire time.

#

But it seems like he fucked something up at the end and got himself killed by the brother's aimbot

placid lily
void lichen
#

Which of the perks should I swap, and what to?

craggy python
#

weakspot for flak?

#

actually thats just

#

change the top one to flak is what id recommend

misty abyss
#

I can't get True solo to work on Orthus Offensive, bells don't trigger if there is one player, and the first Twin spawn don't trigger, and there is a invisible wall behind his spawn so you can't progress forward. (Sigh) Pain

void lichen
#

Any advice for my flamer? Don't have the largest collection of blessings yet

frozen glen
#

groaners to flak and fan flames to blaze away

left iron
#

Oh dear

void lichen
#

Blaze away will have to wait till I can collect it

copper hawk
#

I cannote waite .

#

If u WAITE u will EXPLOD !!

left iron
#

Sounds like knife propaganda

frozen glen
#

cica u need to explode

craggy python
#

red is online

left iron
#

I knew you were a knife player all along

craggy python
#

come do hard mode twins

#

i need to be carried

frozen glen
#

i already did hard mode

craggy python
#

fuck

frozen glen
#

hey ice

copper hawk
#

Graaah i need 2 do hard mode teins

#

Twins

frozen glen
#

u wanna do hardmode

left iron
#

Hey Red

#

I already did hardmode

frozen glen
#

wtf

craggy python
#

D: im doing my army crap now and i was gonna play more bg3 this weekend but this fucking mission came out

frozen glen
#

need 1 more premade to do hardmode

craggy python
#

so even though i have an extra half day of leave i cant even get to half hp on twins lmao

sharp zodiac
#

Unfortunate

craggy python
#

the army has taught me many things but fighting nurgle twins is not one of them

#

glad to officially be a part of the guard now though

misty abyss
craggy python
#

oh thank fuck

#

even worse im in the middle of collecting documents to apply to some uni courses

#

i dont need to do that i need to kill these fucking twins

left iron
#

2 weeks until uni starts for me noot

frozen glen
#

stock up the coffee and noodles

misty abyss
#

if you want to send me a inv just use this

left iron
#

Im renting out my house so i can rent a apartment closer to the uni

#

Fml

craggy python
#

oh jeez

#

well it sounds like you have a plan at least

left iron
#

Red, i can join for that as well lmao

#

I dont mind

frozen glen
#

ok ICE

left iron
#

I've been playing pubs for a few hours, and they've been extra bad today

#

Wait, hol' up

#

Are you both Asian servers?

frozen glen
#

yep

left iron
#

Mmm

royal vortex
#

who gave melk the power to crash my game

#

this man needs to fkin stop

frozen glen
#

been happening since patch 15

left iron
#

Well, in that case, i'll let you do it on your servers

royal vortex
#

u have been happening since patch 15

frozen glen
#

wtf

#

msm

craggy python
#

josho has been coming since patch 1

frozen glen
#

and joshos adhd didnt even mock me for it

craggy python
#

yea so who's joining rnrn

royal vortex
#

i let u live with that mistake

craggy python
#

thats exactly what my dad said to my mother about me

left iron
frozen glen
craggy python
#

right imma go read while we wait

frozen glen
#

ice r u still coming

craggy python
#

immigrations and customs enforcement

#

just tell him you're an illegal immigrant and he'll be at your door

void lichen
#

Feel like I need to farm up some blessings tbh

craggy python
#

on god im so bored of zealot i wanna pick psyker

#

im not aware of how badly they've been nerfed or buffed, but i wanna chuck the rocks again

violet hornet
left iron
#

Also i need to eat

craggy python
#

@frozen glen imma go smite psyker i think

#

or just assail

#

probably better with that horde

#

im stuck in the fucking load screen

copper hawk
#

B. Larghm

patent patrol
#

I have been trying to figure this out for so long lol. I see my gun has 'mobility' as a stat but not my hammer. Does that mean I'm faster with my hammer or gun?

#

like is no stat higher than a visible stat? how does that work

#

cause I keep thinking it means I'm slower or somethin

dense karma
#

it just means it isnt a stat that gets modified

#

check the details on the weapon to see exactly

sharp zodiac
#

Well that could've gone better

dense karma
#

especially because stats tend to be different per weapon despite having the same name, for example on thammer defense affects sprint cost, push cost, dodge distance and dodge speed

#

but on a chainaxe it affects push cost and sprint cost

jagged aspen
#

how do i stop getting instantly folded and left perpetualy with no toughness?

misty abyss
#

Ask them nicely to target someone else

jagged aspen
#

sounds like delaying the inevitable

misty abyss
#

Just always dodge essentially

#

slide for certain gun mobs

livid mountain
#

Which one do you think looks better guys?

left iron
#

Thy wrath be swift lets you ignore stagger from gunners and melee, so you wont fold immediately on first hit received if you're in a bad spot

craggy python
#

how am i stuck in a loading screen again

left iron
#

Skissue

craggy python
#

quitting out again

livid mountain
craggy python
#

i dont have mods

#

oh melk crashed my game