#zealot-class
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rampage is an option
None my builds work with chorus so I gave up
rampage/thirsty?
I just made one for the boss
yip
and then specialists to 10% crit damage depending on your specific sword's damage increase from body to crit
twins dedicated killing build since outside of twins there is no other challenges on the map
its just twins twins twins until more twins
I remember it being pretty beefy on the damage increase but...isn't weak spot more
The yoinky sploinky
either way
what this means is
if you rev cleave and get crits going
and aim fer fays
you are crit weak spotting every time
funny mauler kill chain time
and your crits on elites will be enough to reliably oneshot and swap from rev cleave to rev leet delete
when you slap an enemy
and they stagger
you get 20% more crit
what's nice about that blessing
using knife
mk2 club with perfect strikes goes brrr (do not try this lmao)
is it lasts exactly long enough to slap, punch, overhead nuke, and get one more quick action off before it ends
Sweep on mrk15 lol
when it's fit on the punch mace, the pride
Mk5 brute brain my beloved
pair it with brittle or skullcrusher
and slap is 4, punch is 8, overhead nuke is 80% more damage
Chaxe is fun but not for thee

haymaker mk6 knife funny
gag
M
but you are bringing a literal knife to a 40 minute gunfight
have you never heard the saying
Hmm
oh im not talking abt the twins fyi
Im trying to branch out of just using my flamer on zealot
I should make an uncanny executor mk6 knife
Which shotgun is actually good
I need to look for a better revolver, the one I have is great but the perks ruin it
The revolver is fun and I have a good one rn
Any chain weapon does the job
kantrael and agri are good
Finally, was doing an organized team last night and couldn't get past 1 boss. Did randoms and we got it on the 2nd try lmao
Kantri or law
agri doesn't fire quickly enough to be a real threat to elite packs in hard mode
shotguns prolly keep up just fine in normal
^
bring your bolter
i used bolter there. Worked like a charm
bring your cowboy 6er
Cool cool ty guys
what's the name of the mod for that version of the scoreboard?
looks better than the one im using
Ok I got one with a dogshit blessing but I have a HC and surgi I can slot into it I just need the other perk to be something good, one of them is flak so it's alright
what should i replace with the precognition blessing? could also find mk4 version of blesssing
what combo is that
Replace smackdown with uncanny
Yeah
And that firs target is a bit meh

Damn can't find a single match, gonna change regions if this keeps fucking with me
whatre we thinking i change
bloodletter to rampage?
That savage sweep is something, and yes
Kinda bricked sadage
did we not just reach the consensus that cleave perks on new evis are bad
are they
Bloodletter to rampage
Yes
Just less effective
They do nothing essentially
It will add some stagger but nothing else
I'm not in game currently
more cleave is still good if you're using a crit cdr build but that's about it

Finally found an auric game
Fuck it's in progress I'm scared
Based gf
If you have uncanny on knife you cant go wrong with flak and carapace
Thoughts on this thing?
Awesome
Glad I could contribute
it's a solid worker
it'll be the third or fourth last evisc you equip
cuz only a couple setups are more effective than that
i literally just said what his name was
Out of curiosity, what are the more effective set ups? So I know what to be in on the lookout for
I didn't even catch that name till after I looked at the sc
freddy! thats me im a freddy!
I had that okri comic removed for me (very nice of them) because the actual comic ends lower, but the original is blurred and I then added a solid black bar on top of that
but, side boob you see
is literally porn

your forgot the hypen
you dont need wrath on there
the mk15 already hits its cap on enemies hit even with no cleave and low cleave stat
but tiddeee and sloot and who-ure
Alright I'll get back to more auric damn once I finish this test for my college
Oh even the stat? Interesting
and all of this'
all youd do is just stagger a few more enemies per swing, but not deal damage to them
since the mk15 can only damage 4 enemies per swing
Completely forgot about it
What would be a better blessing for it?
We're much more strict about conventionally sexual language than we are regular curse words. Also, if you're aware of racial slurs we aren't sensoring, please DM them to me
I can do that,s ure
momentum, bloodthirsty or shred
I've lived in texas most all my life so there are a couple like I said lesser known ones that'd curl your hair
these
it really depends on what you want/how you play
I'm just bitching because my mexican food had a horrible accident on the way here and now I have to order and wait again
Maybe i should get shred
cuz the driver prolly got hungry and later loser'd my dinner
sorry for your loss
momentum for a safer more general build
shred for slight more damage by technicality or for crit cdr
bloodthirsty for a more reliable but more active method of crit cdr
i would say shred but i dont even use the thing, im a dclaw user so im biased
Rev it up ganggg
REV IT UP GANGGGGGGGG
you misspelled BASED
Huh. Thanks
the parry mechanic on field bosses is a ridiculous 4th wall shattering gimmick that worsens the game every moment it's still there
press one button, put on a movie, win
Fun is illegal
uh yeah cuz it is
I wish parrying was more of a perfect block mechanic than what it is but still, parrying is one of the best mechanics in any video game 

I just have to tilt my mouse for reving, love this little guy
yep I enjoy the dclaw myself
it's fun to have a mechanic to invite attacks then stagger lock til dead
hold on i gotta find that one clip
I hate when parry looks at the camera and breaks the 4th wall with its quips and jokes
instead of RAAAAGH or block staggering
We should also nerf ogryn
but explain to me in physics terms how you're parrying that plague ogryn's stomp
Sound waves
Parry them
emp'rah
Toughnes talents are hilariously overtuned
ewew is honestly undertuned tho
Still bitter that I got stuck in a drawn out fight with a plogryn and it's the one time I didn't bring my dclaw
Toughness talents on ogryn
oh yeah
so you could sit still, and press a single button
Yes
Hold right click toughness bar full
It's zel chat you took em when you came in
exhil takedown on a lawbringer manstopper build is pretty funny
I hope they continue to cater to yall's particular enjoyment style
and alternate attack instead runs the mission for you, fighting for you
While falling from big heights or doing ground slams, you can parry the floor to get an explosive jump that can stack with other movement options
💖 93
are you still mad abt ur mexican food
Sounds like your salty
I would be salty if I had my chips and dip
Maybe we should also nerf ogryn heavy strikes
cuz I'm too busy scarfing down bean dip to wipe my mouth
honestly I'm glad yall use the dclaw, it's one of the lowest mission brings on offer
From parrying nukes to fall damage
what kinda bean dip
I just think that gimmick cheapens the game for the whole team is all
@spare talon What mod gives the kill counter?
kill counter mod
Oh lol
literally that
is it kill counters for your weapons like vt2 had
Nice i missed that one
no its like a combo counter mid game
darn
no it's kill counter like in boomer games
I shield tank, I'm lucky to get six or seven kills per auric maelstrom
one time, I eked out eleven, been chasing that dragon ever since
i just grabbed a random clip
this is what it looks like in general gameplay
rofl
I was like, where's the plague ogryn
how is any of this relevent
oh okay so it's like warframe's combo system except just a number and not a crit mechanic
yeah ig
Yeah
its literally just to make you feel cool
its helpful knowing if they died or just got pushed away
i actually like having the combo counter there, it helps me know if im actually thinning the numbers of a group of elites fast or not
yeah
True dont always see red crosshair
I LOVE NUMERICAL VALUES REPRESENTING SITUATIONAL INFORMATION!
let me see your very okay mod mechanic and raise you some more totally whelming options
*glances at mod list over 💯 still miss some..
ive seen rock
haven't gotten to this one yet, cuz I already have hub hotkeys in muscle memory
and log me in as well
but the skip-to from the title is nifty
Raise you CLANG.wav
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/225
Demopan
And one renames

Poxslayer 
i have Big Iron and Parry this you filthy casual
How is Columnus Brauto?
shiel harmstronk and buzz sawldrin, jorj crushintons and slayburham lincoln, Cleevin Segal and Clobbert Redford
Its like the only brauto I have no experience with
it's not a bolter or flamer
or laspistol I guess
I've never particularly cared for braced anyway
Las Blicky
I think the Column gets a ton more stable braced
that, or its fire rate increases
and agrip will punch through enemies
Its like the most fun version of autogun
Heavily recommended
You missed the opportunity to call yourself Chainiac
There's a really nice Rashad melk has for me
But I spent all my remaining melk bucks on the chaxe I got
And OFC the flamer there ALSO has the blessings I need
But it's ass so idc about it
this is why you suffer through the work to get your account to 5000 marks and keep it there
Differnce between zerona and agrippina revolvers?
Sure but I'm a maniac with a chain axe
Calling myself a Chainiac would imply I use things like the chainsword
so you can impulse buy two, maybe three weapons before you go broke
I dont really its just chain axe
One is better at precision
Uh
And the heavy evis whenever I'm playing zealot
Zerona, I take it?
Yes, it's better than the agri
Doesn't mean the fanning quickfire of it isn't bad
Just outclassed by it's older brother despite it being fun
it also loads with a speed loader
instead of hold on guys I need to pull exactly four bullets out o my pocket
Agri is cooler and therefore better
agri for heresy and below
zarona for results
or if you just really REALLY fucking love doing this
I appreciate where the revolvers are at now with respect to the bolter
speed dump speed load, accurate .44 magnum slow reload, lazer beam accurate magdump aoe pop slowest reload
My inner John Wayne fan says I must go for Agri
it's a fun little playstyle
I'm just a 40k simp
I am here for chainsaw swords, explosive almost grenades in a rifle, flamethrowers, and powerbonks
I automatically like people I first meet with a poop shovel in their hands for exactly this reason
you're playing a 40k combat game
and you brought a thin little foldable dainty ww1 knockoff trench shovel
the fact they lured you to use it with how hard it hits just means you have an addictive personality so don't do drugs mkay
What is the BIS roll for Atrox?
Rashad
idk, my axes all have teeth
unironically, I don't think I've once used a c or t axe outside WUT DIS DU in the grinder
If ye still want to use it then dam pen finesse and Crit seem important which ye got high nough
I just wanna know for any future crit builds
best blessing is barter
psh
Run marty if you want it do dmg
How do you even deal with all the fucking ragers on the Twins
kill
So hard to focus
shoot em
i prefer to kill them, but thats just my method
theres probably some other strats out there
Oh never thought of that ty
you can also ask nicely for them to go away
I usually just let them eat my ass
(bias alert) dclaw handles both them and rinda amazingly
dance?
Stab the bottom of the foot.
it's like they buffed weapons in anticipation for this fight
build / loadout?
from what i can see, hes got all of the damage on ult cast buffs, target mark keystone x8, trickshooter, crucian roulette, and deadshot
a build exclusively for doing exactly that
Anyone have a good tact axe build?
i just run a Mk7 on a typical crit CDR build with a lawbringer (manstopper/scattershot) and it works well
If I never give it to Hadron, It can't be bricked...
brutal and decimator right?
time to gamble
i run headtaker/decimator tbh, but brutal works
go martyr
schrodingers flamer
it is both a god roll and a brick simultanously until it is upgraded
Already have this one. I'll sit on the other for as long as possible.
GAMBLE
Ty ty. Mainly trying to roll one to do twins, just need to farm out the plasteel. I was going to run down the martyrdom tree and try it out
Whats the pattern people use, just spam light?
heavies and push + heavies and some light spam on chaff
special staggers muties
0:00 - Intro
GLOABAL WEAPONS
2:17 - Devils Claw Swords
3:11 - Combat Axes
4:01 - Combat Knife
4:18 - Tactical Axes
5:00 - Assault Chainsword
5:17 - Assault Chainaxe
VETEREAN WEAPONS
5:54 - Sapper Shovel
6:15 - Power Swords
ZEALOT WEAPONS
7:19 - Heavy Eviscerator
7:40 - Heavy Swords
8:39 - Thunder Hammers
9:38 - Crusher
PSYKER WEAPONS
10:23 -...
this too
Hope he updated that shit cause some of it is suspect
Are t axes usable now?
Thanks for the video, much appreciated
When I tried that one I posted earlier, in a damnation, it was decent.
look at the comments
I just want to tomahawk heretics
he made some mistakes
Yea i saw the video before
i don't think he could have edited the video without taking it down sadly
What's the roll for a mark VII heavy sword again
serviceable
ht + rampage / deathblow
perk wise
So wrath's off the table, it has to be rampage/deathblow
I felt the same way. It actually has a crit bonus on it, so it benefits from the crit build greatly.
You want martyrdom or momentum and have the max DMG possible
yes
Crit cdr on it is good too
I had good results with Blazing Piety though.
If you go scourge and all
Is the bolter still good for eviscerating boss enemies after the nerf to pinning fire or are there other better weapons?
can't complain got full bore 4 heh
does the new boss fight count as a run under 20 min for penance? even with bells
bolter needs buff bad
don't see why not
in that case, anyone wanna run it with me? I have no friends
whats a better secondary for damaging bosses?
I'm down
Just read properly, dont have bells sry
I have bells no worries
even without it seems to be pretty frequently under 20 min
just cant get anyone to run privs with
your code is missing a digit
I wouldn't be surprised if the penance doesn't count if you use the bell skip
seems like it would be an oversight if it does
126054992
hmm
can you send me yours?
I just hit the copy button on steam
did you get?
hell yea
No, I cba my guy, some other time.
for shotgun fire frrienzy or full bore?
You've been around a while if you have one of these
What mod?
ShirtlessTide
there's this penance called up close and personal
does it have to have me start a mission from scratch?
does joining in mid mission not work>?
do other people see it, or
It's not a mod, there was a bug a long time ago. But yes, people could see it.
you kept your shirtless or is that just a pic of when it was happening
Best glitch
gw themselves told fatshark to get rid of it
Just a pic from back then
My first clear was a hard run and i got like 4 penances off of it
it was funny seeing 4 man naked ogryns all packed into the transport shuttle
how tf to get Shocking Stuff penance... been trying for hours
don't speak to me of the old magics, witch
is there anyway to be shirtless other than mod?
I was there
Was great
when the old magics something something I'm a jesus metaphor
Nok-Nok stayed just arms until they departed to war
Whodere, his faithful companion
which one is it?
40 stun kills in 10s
40 stunned enemies killed in 10s
I can only remember those shirtless times in View All Cosmetics mod
I literally have every other Zealot penance
christ hab dreyko sucks
Do it on auric high intensity
damnation
so nades and a good brauto with ff + ds?
I did it with the old evis
i'd rather just not have the achievement and use a nade thats fun (fire)
Equip flamer, Create a game run it till noone is here, heresy or damnation, wait for a horde, dont kill em just kite a bit, then throw stun nade and burn
is a horde spawn in the beginning of a mission just rng
cuz ppl join the lobby super fast
Usually it happens 2-3 min in a mission
and even if I tell them, they dont care or "oops, I killed the entire horde even tho I said I wouldnt"
U can just play and try to do it mifgsme
darktide has an AI director so it is just RNG
Midgame, its still posdible
the problem is a fucking hate the flamer
so playing normally is annoying lol
if you want an empty lobby queue into a specific mission or maelstrom when there's only a few seconds left
Doubt u can do it with other weapon
I know I cant, so I want to just get it done so I can stop using this shit ass flamer
doesn't have to be the flamer I did it with the evis
hence why Ive stopped "playing normally"
maybe try using promethium instead of shit from an ass
a bolter can clear a hoard in a few shots
I take pleasure in people leaving when they see im a knife zealot
you cannot stop me
I take pleasure in seeing that the knife zealot has the lowest score (with base scoreboard mod)
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nice, but why a third wound?
i just did a mission for this
but i didnt get the penance
does quick play joining not work
Qp works for it.
I've been using this on a crit build, knife sucks ass but it's really good
it's really a piece of shit but it's very effective
Must've shot your weapon then.
nope
never picked up ammo
cuz I have full ammo
how i know is i use the stubby
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does the mission not work if the bot i replaced had fired shots?
cuz it could have been that, ir eally dont know
i didnt fire anything
pretty sure qp does not work for it
thats ass ðŸ˜
hey how is kantrael shotty for zealots? like how people usually play with this weapon? and should i swap fire frenzy for no respite?
I only QP and have it, you might not beable to replace a bot though
you should go no respite and ff / ds
be there since the start
no respite is bis on shotgun
oh i thought full bore was
it might work if you qp into a lobby
ff you mean the one that applies bleeding right?
no that's flechette
Qp does work, it's not a private party penance. The only conditions are malice+ and do not use a firearm. That's it. Must be a full mission.
okok sounds good
fullbore worls on subsequent shots
yea, i get it
but i did join a mission on quickplay
2 of them actually
1 of them i joined at the end
So i assumed i wouldnt get it
the other i joined almost at the start
and what is it that makes this weapon so special?
so basically you proce it on a mob then you do special
does the fire slug scales with something?
the fire is impacted by the close ranged dmg node
but you need to have your ranged weapon equipped
and chastise will benefit the dots too
ohh
because it downgrades armor
are you sure? because they changed some stuff since patch13
ty for the answers, going to swap for no respite when i get it and test it see how it goes
100% positive
I got it with shred. It's really making me turn my brain off with the cdr on crit light spamming a horde
I just took a mediocre green one through a heresy just to see whats what
Any recommendations for perks/blessings for a Turtolsky heavy sword?
Got a high roll one
did not even have to rev for the scab ragers
Maniac dmg is nice from my experience. I just lucked and got a decent one as a mission reward. It's satisfying 1 tapping mutants and ragers 50% of the time
Gotcha
Still leveling up my remade zealot. Uh...this shroudfield crucis 2 hammer is uh.
Pretty neat.
W/ shred, I feel like I don't need blazing piety and can run martyrdom zealot with cdr on crit. God I feel so dumb using it. Like I just light spam and it works
Ye olde reliable horde combo
Definitely like the animations for heavy sword even though I haven't made much experience with them.
Heavy sword is very satisfying to me
Looks pretty. I like me big dumfuck curved swords.
i see both being recommended but what do you guys like more slaughterer or head taker for new chaxe?
1-2 tapping mutants and ragers with not that bad of heavy attack speed is nice
How's movement with it? Never checked the inspection for myself.
Uh idk. Never thought about it and use chastise. I can it's better than evis
Oh?
I think the only thing about heavy swords is that I feel like I can't do anything when I can't get an angle on the bulwark
I never paid attention to the eviscerator conversations but has the original one changed enough to be noticeably less effective than whatever the new one is?
But that could be just that situation requiring a bit more than the brain dead requirement of just hacking away
Just steal the krak grenade outta the vet's pocket and bam ez
Definitely a heavy eviscrator enjoyer.
Uhhh the new one is cool. I don't use it a lot because i prefer the chaxe and chainsword
It's your preference of moveset. Sweep lights and strike down heavy.
The push attack is a thrust that you don't have to Rev up for
That too
If you don't have anything or anyone else that can break their guard then yeah just let them pull up. Wait maybe like a second and a half after they close the distance and there's your angle usually.
new evis is brain off mode, light attacks for hordes heavy attacks for single target wheras the old evis has a bit more going on
Are the heavies like, helm splitter style verticals?
Can confirm. My brain is mush on wound zealot with it
they're like the H2 on old evis but repeated
Btw what would you want on your new evis in terms of perks and blessings?
I didnt play perfect but i just wanna say fuck you to all the "knife players are useless" people like any weapon cant be useful if you know waht its weaknesses and strengths are and cover for them
Got you
I run flak/cara and rampage/momentum
Also, hello Vega enjoyer

I see you like bastards as well
Vega dlc season 2 copium
I'll play 6 when they add him lol
He had...a rough time save like I wanna say mid season 5?
I haven't run a crit build in a bit. I guess momentum is the only other good option than shred?
bloodthirsty works too depending on how you want to play it
situational comparatively though
I'll try out momentum and bloodthirsty whenever I get back to playing with the new evis
Yakuza!?!
do you mean Kazuma Kiryu the Dragon of Dojima
I remember everyone saying aki was broken and S tier but now she's almost bottom of the barrel apparently 
I wouldn't know. Fuck a tier list I'm here to ball out
the true chads are the ones who play what they enjoy, not what is meta
But I can see where she struggles considering 6 starts your characters at their strongest with drive and all that
So is this any good I'd assume or just chuck it
it could work
Many others with kits that can shut her out of effective range.
I'm not as good eith her like my Kim but she's definitely feeling linear compared to her tho
Still waiting on these internet Ken mains to shut me down though...💅
Dunno. Weak flame ig
Can work. Depending on your luck of getting a better later. It can serve you for now
Eventually I'll play juri and rashid
I'm waiting for Ed
Fun characters
What's the best thing to roll onto this nowadays? Not sure what perks and blessings matter for the flamey boi
hoping ed will lead into shadaloo reappearance
Overpressure Blaze Away
I just...hate his original debut and direction but love his animations.
Psycho power kickboxing? Sure. :^)
Cheers Judge
I'd like him to have his little cammy post doll arc
And for the dolls to be their own characters after liberation
Lots of potential
would be cool
What's crazy is someone has videos of playable modded versions of the story mode encounters. They're literally just unfinished characters
Plus since they going the revitalize route again, they can kind of just maybe build new characters off some of other shit
Sf still needs a new wrestler
Alex has a sister...js. nu power bomb
Big slam
r mika in sf6 
The crucis hammer is not helping me anymore in most damnation missions
I have the idea to move to the new eviscerator
depends what role you're looking to fulfil
I mainly focus taking out crushers and maulers also bosses obviously but the hordes are making it hell to actually hit them
Even if I aim higher I always seem to hit an infected
And it's a waste of time
new evis' rev lights will cleave through smaller enemies and attach to armoured enemies like maulers, ironhelm thammer does the same
Ironhelm is way to weak tbh
Personal preference
I'll try it out and look what blessing will work best
Huh. Never could've thought of that
I really don't want to leave the crucis
I'll try it out
rampage/bloodthirsty has been fun. flat dmg buff always helps and thirsty lets you chain crit rev heavies over and over
but you need a fair group of enemies to take full advantage of it
My ideal evis today is the new one with savage sweep and bloodletter, flak or unyielding and maniac. I have the old one with all of that Grolled and the new one is superior imo.
Guys. Is martyrdom on zealot bad?
no
no
Ni
ss isn't doing much for you without a crit cdr build, bloodthirsty is the better special attack buff between the 2 and maniac is almost redundant since you kill all maniacs very quickly anyway
400 IQ
whats the dif with the light attack and the reved light attack tho?
when you rev it, it will cleave through smaller enemies and latch onto armoured ones like maulers
I like to Build my Eviscerators as a hybrid bossing/hoarding weapon. So I try to get all the cleave out of it with ss and if you wanna boss with it, you need BL and unyielding. Maniacs isn't really needed but my old one needed it to cleave the ragers with one swing. I admit, either Carapace/flak/maniacs with unyielding would still make me happy though.
fair enough
mrk2 or 15?
Who you referring to?
you
WHERE IS SUPERMAN
I would want all that I said on the new one. I have the old one with all that.
ah cuz the new one doesn't benefit from cleave at all, only old
Didn't know that.
it does but only for crit cdr builds
Kinda crazy that it doesn't benefit from cleave with all the horizontal swings
new mission is fun
I guess I got lucky a long time ago then. The 4 targets would get buffed by SS, no?
not on the mk15
That is so dogshit
you just stagger more enemies but it still counts towards crit cdr
for each enemy you stagger
Is the mk15 referred to as Unstoppable or something else?
it's the same as mk2
such a waste
this ones good cuz its old one
no one said it didn't, but it's not as good as the mk2 in comparison
Oh I know, I was just under the impression the mk15 was better based on attack patterns until I found out it doesn't benefit from SS on cleave
its just a bit more focused on elite killing, still does fine in the horde clear
Now I just want one cause it looks cooler than the old one.
feels more weighted too old like a pool noodle
melk trying to sell this gun for me. seems like he is concerned about my survival 😂
anyone beat the hard mode on pubs?
with pubs? no, I'm not that good
Not with PC locked into crossplay...If these were the pre-crossplay days, then yes I'm sure it could've been done.
Being shit is platform agnostic

REAL AND TRUE REAL AND TRUE REAL AND TRUE
Yeah I did 2 ogryns 2 zealot I think
Test name this gun 
whats max wounds on heresy/damn?
Pretty sure the ogryns were carrying
7
isn't martyrdom unable to reach max wounds thne
GRAIA HEAVY STUB KNIFE MARK 6
got close a few times
almost killed the ranged dude
would be easy after that

marty only goes to 6 now
used to be 8
not sure abt that
7 is only achievable in low difficulties
fixed
What's the best thunderhammer blessings? Been havin a blast with it but I run a bit of a weird build usually so
lol same why they even bother moding the description
Thrust and Headtaker
Ah ok. I got Headtaker 4. I don't have thrust at a high level tho. The second blessing I got was trauma 1.
it's decent at least.
I'll hold onto it and try to get like thrust 3
water bottle
not trauma, thrust
mb
This is my current hammer. Is it the best? No, I highly doubt it
but with some rebless I can probably make it really nice.
I will say I do like sprint efficiency. Idk maybe I'm weird.
Sell it
it's just nice to go fast
why would I do that?
with some reblesses I can make it decent.
also headtaker 4 I just got
It's doodoo
so.
how is it doodoo? explain.
I know it's not the greatest but
it can still be a 3/4 weapon
2 reblesses and it's fine.
exactly.
it's not perfect but it'll be fine once it's set up right.
That's not how cleave works.
I have high standards, if its your first then have fun with it for now.
You should probably consider I only have 56 hours
this is a weapon I'm gonna use for a WHILE.
it's damn near perfect since it can be a 3/4
"spare parts"
question. What perk should I rebless and to what?
I know that, now.
sprint eff to unyielding if you're boss killing
Ah ok. I was using it more for swarm clear and single target damage. I know the thunder hammer isn't THE BEST wave clearer but it gets by with my build. I like to run it sorta mixed. Luckily for 'wave clear' you don't need much since base enemies are frail ig.
I'm weird on how I run stuff
anyone managed to carry a team through hard mode yet?
what's the trick to using the flamer? the primary fire seems kinda awkward, and everything is just so clunky
i want to use the alt fire all the time but the gun just takes so long to do anything
Also you wanna see 'bad'? Here's my old hammer. Lol.
Only pull it out when your screen is full of heretics, unload.
I ran it because it fit my build style despite not being good for it lol
I love my silly little knife
new heavy evis would be better as a hybrid horde clear and single target weapon overall but yeah ironhelm does the trick

yeah but it takes 5 minutes to do that tho
Crucis master race hammer, I hate the Ironhelm
not to mention activating the alt fire mode
Yeah. I'm not gonna argue with ya there. I just happen to get really good hammers.
so I went with it, you feel me?
primary fire is for stagger, alt fire is for clearing the screen especially if you chastise once you've applied burn stacks
anyway so should I just run unyielding over sprint efficiency and it'll be a good 3/4 once I get thrust 3 or somethin?
so just like the purge staff but slow
yeah, you could run flak or maniac if you have trouble killing any particular enemy but unyielding is generally the play for hammers
You have to turn the gas on, yes
I don't usually have trouble killing anything. I mean I killed stuff with this thing.
So lol.
purg cant melt a group of crushers as easily but yeah ig
Sadly the first target is low but I'm happy w this for now
Same
Account-wide curios, when?
I've said it a million times before and I'll say it a million again, I am still waitin on 2H Ogryn weapon, 2H Zealot Powersword, Dual Wield of some sort for zealot (personal desire xd), and vet lmg
account wide storage when
💔
Character bank when
what perks should i run on the columnus mk 2? i currently have deathspitter/hit and run
if it has dumdum, can put in dumdum
gotcha
Cookie when
I'm pretty sure she was holding a life size model of an Ogryn sword...
yes
I suggest Fire Frenzy

I asked earlier if martydom was bad on zealot. People said no. Is it dumb to run max wounds ?
if you aren't running martyrdom, yes
is this coping
you won't need maniac unless you specifically want to kill mutants in an unrevved heavy
cara or flak would be better
how's agri revolver on zeal
HHELL YEAH BRUDEER
God I love Zealot specifically for those moments when you're at 10 HP and start doing mass damage and just turn into fuckin Doom Guy.
Martyrdom is the best
im running evisc/martyr zeal, is agri revolver a possible option with it
i basically only use my revolver to quickdraw ranged enemies
True. I personally am a fan of the infantry lasgun but that's just me
don't ask why.
I just like using it.
i like kantrael lasguns but it doesnt fit my zealout vibe
I love the kantrael. It's good for quickdraw counter sniping
Lol
and I just
like laser guns in general
especially red laser guns
my favorite color is red so
I use the Zarona for the same thing
for my primary I run the ironhelm thunderhammer. I know it's worse for crowd clear then the heavy evic's but I for some reason keep getting SPECIFICALLY really solid thunder hammers
so I go with it
might struggle to kill from further away, but if you like the fan the hammer style, I dont see why not
oh yeah didnt ironhammer get bufed
As if it needed it.
in the recent patch or patch before that?
ironhelm was bad last i checked. Also this patch
It never was.
the title 'crowd control' is a bit misleading though
cause the og heavy evicerator is better than it is at that
but the thunder hammer always did INSANE damage if I recall
well, single target
are u talking abt crucis or ironhelm
damage
ironhelm
Just one of these on my fucking vet... please fatshark...
I run ironhelm
crcuis just kinda does everything better than ironhelm tho
LET'S GOO!! Just did Twins on Hard with no Ogryns and I was the Psyker!!
Ironhelm gets the job done. And I really like it anyway.
ope wrong channel
Also I'm pretty sure Ironhelm does more single target burst damage
comparatively.
both thunder hammers are good nonetheless.
is this blessing combo good enough?
swap full bore to scattershot or no respite
and crit to flak
shaddap
okay, I'll try looking for them
is it just me or does agri revolver have CRAZY crit%
^ scattershot imo, wide spread on alt fire is gonna be huge w fire frenzy stacks
whats the purpose of revolver bash
smacking people
how about both scatter shot and no respite at once? 😂
This is also fine
The primary difference is that the Ironhelm activated swing cleaves and the Crucis activated swing is a nuke that does not cleave. That's why people use the crucis to nuke bosses.
whats the counter to armor if you're running Catachan/Heavy swords? I assume it's just the revolver but i wanted to check
so i just hit lvl 30 with my first char what is a good way to farm good weapons?
revolver/bolter best options
do you also blast maulers away with the guns as well or can those be slugged out with
With the devil claw, you can do a perfect parry for some sweet damage and basically no stamina drain
does the parry even work through the mauler overhead? or only their little side swipes
Perfect parries work with mauler and crusher overheads
Missing the window will not damage you, but it will nuke all your stamina
You'll fuck em up, yes, even more so if you take Fury of the Faithful combat ability and use it when you open up on them. Maulers, Flak Ragers, Crushers.
for the bolter it's Shattering Impact and Pinning Fire/Cavalcade
if youre running bolter with hsword, pinning fire shattering impact is what you want
or alternatively you could run surgical pinning fire
but you can't really just pull it out and quickly kill the armored enemies Infront of you then dip
for the second perk what would you run for it? I have it set to maniac right now
mb still for the sword
Idk then probably flak
oh i already have flak so i just set the 2nd one to maniac
should be fine then
for shoty whats better full bore or fire frenzie?
Which shotty?
kant
I'm not a expert on the shotguns but I would think FF.
Fire frenzy is better
more damage
but is "harder" to proc
and you need to proc it 3 times to make it have a better effect than fullbore
If you have no respite 2nd choice not that matter. But fullbore doesn't proc well on kant.
I figured it probably wouldn't proc unless he shot a monstrosity with it. But it does proc pretty easy within like 1-2 meters of a target. (Full Bore)
Man fuck the bullshit. Send me busted cracked the fuck out zealot builds. All the brrrt, all the gore.
Where the giblets at?
I like making these fucks bloom with the shotties
I like doing shroudfield too much a lot. Ive seen some of these clips that are just badass.
English weird.
you done the evis crit build?
Should be able to find something on there
fury of the faithful spam is glorious
I use my ironhelm as a mix of both so it's still a good nuke but fits my build for wave clearing at the same time
Not yet no
Aw. Was hoping people pulled the vet move and showed off stuff. This'll work too yeah.
alright alright what perks/blessing for ironhelm
Only just now realized these are the fuckin barbers lmao
Hey, quick question. Should I take thrust 3 with headtaker 4? would that be good? Idk if there's Thrust 4, but I'm wondering if using a rebless for thrust 3 for a 3/4 hammer would be a good call here.
cause getting tier 4 blessings are hard.
Lol
at least for me
cause you said thrust and headtaker so yeah
Thrust
what to change?
I know thrust is very good. Just wonderin if I should use 1 rebless on 3 or wait till I get 4.
cause 4's are hard to get.
3 is fine, still a huge dmg boost on hammers
so 3 is like a baseline then?
you can always rebless an item with a higher tier version of itself later
Ye it'll work v well
or any other blessing, for that matter
And you can just bless it to 4 later when u find it
Not exactly. My weapon was a 1/4. It head headtaker 4 and high stats and that's it. So I got thrust 3, now it's 2/4. When I hopefully get a batter hammer I plan to definitely earn the headtaker 4 blessing tho.
After this I gotta refine one of the stats and I got a solid 3/4.
Slap Unyielding on this and I should be good for a while.
at least till I get somethin better
I wanna say thunderous to rampage or headtaker cause this seems like more of a crowd control hammer
Wym? You can still put thrust 4 on it once you get it
I think im misreadin
refining one of the stats takes a slot off, does it not? I only get 2 'redos'.
basically.
if I recall
Either thunderous to rampage or headtaker and block to flak / option two: keep perks as is and throw headtaker thrust on blessings
It'll look you to the two that you didnt change, but it just means you can change the thrust
Headtaker and whichever perk you dont change will stay the same
OOOOH.
But you can change the others as much as you want
So if you get thrust 4 you can throw it on over 3
so upgrading a slot won't take the thing?
Not if it's the same slot as the one you already did
So if you change one of the perks
You cant change headtaker and the other
But yeah youll be able to change thrust as much as you want
so for example, if I made the critical hit damage max, would it take the second slot since it's a straight upgrade or?
If you maxed crit dmg itll lock the sprint so you can only change the crit dmg
or would it cost a slot?
ah ok. I'll just change sprint to unyielding max then and get thrust 4.
should be good for a while on that
Ye w headtaker 4 itll be a beast even w 3
you have four stats on weapons, two perks, two blessings
you have two slots that can be modified, and can be any combo
those modified slots can be changed to anything else, any amount of times needed (but will still cost mats)
so you can have a weapon with perfect perks, and you can mess around with any blessings it can have
or one perk, one blessing
etc etc
that said, i tried out an ironhelm a bit earlier and was severely disapointed. it was exceptionally slow and clunky, and struggled with more than one dude.
i had better sucess with a random drop heavy sword, as i could still take out ragers effectively enough
am i just being the dumb about it
i know it's the delete button weapon, but it feels like you compromise too much
I personally love it. It does just fine for me. I don't struggle with much of anything with it.
Might sound weird but I like it with Fury and Inexorable Judgement, keeps you high on atk spd and dmg
Also the ironhelm is debatably the least difficult one to use
i mean, i'm sure it was a very unflattering example of the weapon, it was just some random drop i tried when leveling
This is mine, wish it were headtaker but it's nice either way
i'm sure a proper built one may be a better experience
but i have no blessings collected lol
Oh yeah, trust me, it is.
basically using the charge feature makes it a nuke on a stick
LOL
i probably should get a set of weapons that are in the shared pools, like a devil's claw first
I could show you my build but no part of it except the damage will carry you. It's basically nothing but full gas and minimum survivability. I'm working on 2k hours and can afford to not take mitigations and I can dodge bullets.
also trust me when I say this, the crucis feels a lot worse than the ironhelm. Well, imo. The crucis is basically a single target nuke compared to the ironhelm's more generalist cleave style with a nuke option.
though i really want a shotgun with those level 2 blessings. flechette and what. crack shot? idk
oh, i found the crusher pretty fun to use tho
if the ogryn's new shovels are a fair comparison i may like it then. luv me mkV
What? The Crucis?
the ironhelm as you said
it's effectively less damage for crowd clear, stunning and still having that charged hit that can one shot mutants n stuff. And does a lot of damage to basically everything.
the ogrn shovels are a horde/single attack set that's reversed for light/heavies in the two, and the special attack can one shot crushers
Think of it as the evicerator but sacrificing some crowd clear damage for a nuke option
if that makes sense
still crowd clears well
but not as well as the evicerators
but does far more burst damage on those enemies that need that kinda firepower
imo it's a perfect generalist weapon.
gives you a nuke option while still having solid crowd clear
old evis is more horde clear new evis is more single target focused, right?
oh thanks
wrong
reversed then?
old evic is more single target (still good crowd clear but not as good as the new one, and higher attack speed) and the new one has ALL cleave attacks

