#zealot-class

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robust bane
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I play for my own damn fun.

fleet zealot
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then don't pretend you are doing some secret meta

fading vale
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you will do more bleed damage with uncanny strike than lacerate

robust bane
fading vale
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if you like bleed then try to run uncanny and flesh tearer

robust bane
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Dude... you're grasping at fucking straws bucko

fleet zealot
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you won't even listen about the BETTER bleed builds

distant lagoon
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speaking about scoreboard above

fleet zealot
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you're attaching your ego to a video game knife it's sad

distant lagoon
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Lazz, look at boss damage

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new chaxe is basically new t-hammer

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also why you changed your nick

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@fading vale

fading vale
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stan called me Lars

robust bane
distant lagoon
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who the fuck is stan

dense field
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Stan is stan

robust bane
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I'd call you a nerd but that's an insult to them

fleet zealot
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the bleed stacks I can leave on some poor sod is insane

plucky gate
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the dude who likes toes and skulls

cloud rapids
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Who pinged?

fleet zealot
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then don't give up on it

distant lagoon
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You basically sabotaging the game for others

fading vale
fleet zealot
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obviously something is bothering you when you are told, hey, maybe your for fun build isn't even good for a 4fun build

distant lagoon
cloud rapids
fading vale
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why are you guys being such dicks like damn

robust bane
fleet zealot
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cause I was polite and focused on improving the concept of her build and she gets pissy

robust bane
proud jackal
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stealth lets me push on the objective safely when the rest of the team is otherwise stuck dealing with horde

distant lagoon
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Knife is borderline garbage

fading vale
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we all know bleed is bad you don't have to just immediately be dicks though, just don't engage

robust bane
fleet zealot
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we should let misinformation run rampant

distant lagoon
fleet zealot
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All I did was post my fucking build and y’all went for my throat talking down on it like a bunch of toxic trolls you didn’t have to say anything if u don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say anything but naw y’all wanna be animals like every other troll and thru the safety of the internet you run your mouth and then talk smack about me it’s ridiculous and not fair of anyone to treat some one like that and u have the audacity to say I’m going thru somthing nah you and all the other trolls like you need to get over what your going thru and act right

fading vale
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or you can do what I do and just post the correct information

fleet zealot
fading vale
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without starting a pissy war

fleet zealot
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give correct information

robust bane
fleet zealot
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and ignore the person

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
robust bane
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Yes, also I'm a she you batshit insane loon.

plucky gate
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🍿

fleet zealot
ripe quest
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what is happening

glass pelican
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how well does the chainaxe work now

autumn shadow
fleet zealot
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I'm nonbinary but whatever, you jsut looking for reasosn to stay mad cause everyone is backing off you

fading vale
coarse birch
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me when i find out lacerate mercy killer is in fact not good

dense field
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Stop bothering the bleed enjoyer. T5 is piss easy with any build.

distant lagoon
fading vale
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"but I do well with bleed" "IT'S DOGSHIT" so on and so forth

fleet zealot
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like, idk how many times I have to type "but if that is what you want to play go play it" jsut for the person to stay and mald

coarse birch
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you can do well with a bad build

ripe quest
coarse birch
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it does not make it a good build

fleet zealot
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it's an endless cycle and honestly lazorr is right

glass pelican
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i want to use a axe

distant lagoon
fleet zealot
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it's like that one episode of rick and morty, where simply, I don't engage and I win, no attention

fleet zealot
coarse birch
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yeah it will be an inifinite discussion

alpine musk
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looking for 3 more zealots thatve done the twins on damnation, i wanna kill them in the secret mode.

fading vale
coarse birch
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ik it works for soulblaze and bleed

glass pelican
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also what stats should i look for in a axe

tardy bramble
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As Ogryn gamer I'm a bit confused what this talent means
Dodging bullets by running or only melee attacks?

robust bane
ripe quest
fleet zealot
fading vale
distant lagoon
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But only if you have stamina

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With this talent, you don't need to have it

fleet zealot
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perks flak maniac, unyielding carapace elites also good

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blessing brutal momentum+headtaker

tardy bramble
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Ahhh nice

fleet zealot
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or BM+decimator

dense field
fleet zealot
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petition to rename sub optimal

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to fun optimal

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to avoid triggering people

compact lichen
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What was the point of sharing this build again?

distant lagoon
compact lichen
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This is how it works in any community that cares about optimizing.

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If you're not part of the crowd, you get dogged on

fleet zealot
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there is a ton of mechanics and shit the game doesn't explain

fleet zealot
compact lichen
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There's no stopping it, people are tribal in nature.

glass pelican
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just be happier and play ogryn and spam heavy attacks, i love ogryn

plucky gate
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wasn't the dodging while sprinting thing part of the psykanium tutorial?

compact lichen
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No I know. I'm just asking why there was any real friction to begin with?

distant lagoon
golden anchor
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Nah, you optimize the game until it's not fun anymore, then go back to running shit builds on maelstrom to give the game a chance

delicate shadow
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Can you lot not be socially maladapted for five fucking minutes

plucky gate
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no

autumn shadow
vast basin
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No

compact lichen
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Honestly, optimizing the game at all is not fun for a lot of people

delicate shadow
compact lichen
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But you shouldn't deride anyone for it

dense field
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I can't be happy with ogryn's dodges Sitgryn

ripe quest
# glass pelican got any builds for it?

Smth like this. You can make anything work except crit build and stealth imo. For Chaxe perks are a bit loose, Mk IV likes Flak + Elites/Cara/Unyielding and Mk XII likes Flak + Elites/Maniac. Blessings are Thrust/Slaughterer/Headtaker. You can use any ranged weapon with them really, but something like a Kant Shotgun or a Flamer helps since their horde clear isn't the strongest.

fleet zealot
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i'm advocating the same bleed build but overall easier to do and also sharing a mechanic people don't instantly know about xd

proud jackal
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which one do I keep?

compact lichen
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In fact, being negative about it at all serves no purpose but to put people off from trying to get better with or without a miiddling kit

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TL;DR - you're not helping anyone

ripe quest
compact lichen
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Anyway, my eviscerator is so scuffed.

fleet zealot
compact lichen
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All I have is fuckin' wrath on it

distant lagoon
robust bane
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Stabby stabby

compact lichen
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Knife isn't trash though

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You just have to know what you're doing with it and you kinda just....didnt at the time?

fleet zealot
compact lichen
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Yeah fuck a meta

fleet zealot
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the problem with knife is a lot of people fall into traps because fatshark doesn't explain mechanics

compact lichen
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It's about what the individual is skilled with

autumn shadow
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How’s this axe going so far

delicate shadow
ripe quest
# proud jackal which one do I keep?

Not quite sure about perks, I'm sure @fading vale has them on hand. I will note that Surgical/Hand Cannon is extremely nice on that Revolver, so smth like taking one blessing and slapping it on the other is probs what you want.

compact lichen
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You can play this game with white weapons if you're good enough at it

fleet zealot
glass pelican
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what blessings are good on the chainaxe

proud jackal
fleet zealot
ripe quest
frozen glen
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yooooooooooooo zealot chat

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yooooooooooooooooooooooooo

ripe quest
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hello red

compact lichen
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Someone's excited

fading vale
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you definitely want surgical hand cannon, flak maniac on revolver is ideal, but elites is fine too I think

proud jackal
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Thanks Larzorr :>

frozen glen
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i am playing darktide as zealot and im chatting in darktide zealot chat

autumn shadow
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I almost cried when this happened cause this was my first 380

tropic harbor
robust bane
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God damn it I got executor on my knife...

robust bane
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I'm gonna die inside now

frozen glen
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executor is good on knife brooooooo

fading vale
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executor got fixed right

fleet zealot
fading vale
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so it's solid now

frozen glen
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yeahhhhhhhhhh

fleet zealot
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i'm not engaging

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it's been fixed yee

delicate shadow
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it is fixed, finally

fleet zealot
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executor is a viable sidegrade to precognition

robust bane
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So you're executor is not bad compared and is in fact better than mercy?

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Nice...

delicate shadow
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it is now among the few things in this game that both work and have an accurate tooltip

frozen glen
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executor is better than mercy killer yes

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well

autumn shadow
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Btw does anyone else run at least +20% ally rev speed

frozen glen
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they do different things

fleet zealot
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mercy killer is in a shit spot

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it has 2 blessings that are just better than it

frozen glen
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id say precog is a direct upgrade to mercy killer

fleet zealot
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being precog and executor

fleet zealot
robust bane
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TIme to stab shit better now.

ripe quest
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It's odd since normally you'd want the +power since it affects the cleave profile better, but it's knife lol. Precog is a tiny bit more damage than 30% power.

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It's like, 40% or smth for weakspot

fleet zealot
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is executor 2nd bug fixed

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aka it not boosting dot damage like power should?

robust bane
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Debating if I should actually play or do the sliding while emoting glitch in lobby

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Emote slide glitch my beloved, hope they never patch it.

delicate shadow
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well I wouldn't give up uncanny on knife like ever

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unless rending gets fixed to not be ridiculous then mayb

ornate bone
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Hi guys we changed rending again, but added shred and 4x finesse to compensate

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Hope it doesn't get too broken ok ty bye

delicate shadow
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hey fellas we nerfed the thing that caps at 100% so you can't go above 100% on revolver now

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#fixed

drowsy steppe
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what is up gang

red mesa
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it existed in vt2. but ONLY for the ratling gunner.
so it made sense bc it was a single enemy, in a single tough situation, and only effected certain classes bc not everyone had ranged

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so the way they expanded it to "half the enemies in the game suppress you" in darktide

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it just feels fucking bad

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im sure you know that just gabbing/agreeing

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also sorry, im late, had my chat paused an hour ago and didn't realize lmao

calm salmon
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Random adds don't seem to suppress me anymore, just aimpunch.

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But yeah, I'm not really sure what the solution is.

Call of Duty hasn't ever had suppression. You just took damage for peaking your head out of cover for too long.

dark zealot
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just had a malding veteran

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was tempted to let him die at the end of the mission

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sadly another zealot got him up

calm salmon
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I guess we're just running up against Fatshark's teething pains. Its pretty obvious they've never made a first person shooter before, and half the community literally just wants VT2

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so there's no good way to actually implement ranged enemies cause everyone is like MELEE MELEE MELEE MELEE MELEE MELEE ONLLLLLLYYYYYYYY

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and then they want their stupid oneshot meta with ranged weapons to deal with suppression mechanics instead of just fixing the ranged problem altogether

dark zealot
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i actually think i played well that time, sure i got seperated towards the end from the objective and team... but the orgyn was trapped and fire bombs seperated us

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so either let the ogryn die or save him and regroup

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aint our fault the vet wanted to play hero and didnt follow

calm salmon
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Let alone shit like plasma gun and revolver.

red mesa
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an mg12 can 1 shot a mauler, rager?

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no way lol

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the basic bitch lasgun?

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i dont see anyone use anymore?

proud jackal
gray bobcat
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What was the reward for hard mode twin fight? I don't think I got anything

north sedge
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insignia

proud jackal
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"the scoreboard doesn't lie" 😂

dark zealot
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oh yeah I tried using this talent tree

dark zealot
calm salmon
dark zealot
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and generally being a prick

proud jackal
gray bobcat
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Can you show me the insignia? I might have missed it facePalm

dark zealot
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ogryn was some guy who joined halfway through and seemed competant

gray bobcat
dark zealot
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which is why i saved him over sticking with the vet

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if the vet couldnt handle it himself... his problem

proud jackal
north sedge
opaque island
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if someone goes down and i dont see my teamates trying to all rush to regroup around them then i know im gonna have a hard time

north sedge
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description will specifically mention hard mode

gray bobcat
proven thicket
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does invocation of death restore 1.5 sec of ability coolodwn once per swing or per enemy hit?

north sedge
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yea you didnt

opaque island
north sedge
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that's just normal damnation

gray bobcat
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I just hit the bell that everyone was hitting

gray bobcat
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so probably left

opaque island
proven thicket
gray bobcat
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Welp, back to the grinding board aPES2_Sweat

dark zealot
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normal bell vs gold bell

north sedge
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dunno, i assume it's one hit but assuming is bad. i dont play cdr

gray bobcat
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I thought there was only one bell aPES2_Sweat

small belfry
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so is antax bad now? what's meta zealot melee weapon and gun?

gray bobcat
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But no worries, I'll be happy to grind the hard mode fight

north sedge
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antax is still good

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play whatever, its basically taxe is meh, knife is mid, everything else play whatever

gray bobcat
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HOL' UP

ripe quest
gray bobcat
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I did hit the right bell and I still didn't get the hard mode insignia

dark zealot
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its not an insignia?

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isnt it a border?

north sedge
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its insignia

dark zealot
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oh

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whats it look like?

glass pelican
small belfry
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no i need THE META build to delete ebverything faster than everyone else

cerulean pike
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heavy sword revolver obv

north sedge
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ok then uh play whatever weapon that i didnt mention

dark zealot
cerulean pike
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Perks unfortunate

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though carapace still technically useful

lean lark
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mk6 hword with bolter

dark zealot
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its not ideal but with enough crit its not terrible

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against the twins if i can headshot it helps

cerulean pike
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just switch crit damage to flak or maniac and then dumdum ez

dark zealot
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yeah think thats the plan

cerulean pike
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then just chastise and rip carapace apart

dark zealot
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so dumdum and death splitter

cerulean pike
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yep

gray bobcat
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Yep, I didn't get the hard mode insignia, odd.

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I'll relog to see if I get it, if not, I'll grind it again

dark zealot
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only have dumdum 3 for now

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but itll do

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so the question is then flak or maniac?

ebon granite
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I HATE HARD MODE TWINS I HATE HATE MODE TWIN I HATE HARD MODE TWIN

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atleast 10 hours of just pure grinding randoms

opaque island
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that catharsis

ebon granite
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I feel good

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after 10 hours of CBT

spark raven
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is the mk 15 evis any good i got 375 rating from the shop?

exotic portal
spark raven
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should i use that over my mk2 which has lower stats

exotic portal
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prob

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Unless, you're running a stamina build

north sedge
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check the stat on shredder and see what you lose

young temple
north sedge
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first one will have to nail 2 rolls in a row to end up being good though

young temple
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That’s a lot of chaff

shut lintel
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OK I need some advice for my zealot. I want to run chorus as my skill as I just love that skill, and I like the flame grenade. I need assistance figuring out the rest. Seen some zealots that can tank some shit but I also don't like to run off, I want to stick around my teammates. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have an eviscerator and a bolter

spark raven
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Now i only need a good hammer i messing around with a alot of diferent weapons

ripe quest
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And it's not much worse, handles crowds fine.

ornate bone
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lmao tf is with the difficulty on damnation spec assignment one

north sedge
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big bad boss moment

ornate bone
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do they get stunlocked by this shit

north sedge
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no

whole vapor
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I’m jealous of how few weapons you have in your inventory

spark raven
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Today im mesing around with Heavy Sword

faint marsh
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i’m laughing so hard wtf

small belfry
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zealot just feels so underpowered these days

little urchin
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are we playin the same game

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:0

small belfry
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just doesn't delete as fast as my vet

white jetty
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Trying to find a good axe for twins, should I just keep rolling?

little urchin
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right looks more than fine?

red mesa
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will this give me any issues at 70 cleave. will i lose a max target or something sometimes on certain armor types or nah?

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one of the pinned comments mentions "at least 71 cleave stat"

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but i havent tested myself if there is a difference

violet hornet
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If you inspect the weapon and hover over the cleave targets stat it'll show how many enemies you can cleave through

red mesa
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its 11.3 vs 11.66 value on the light attack cleave targets/stagger

violet hornet
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I have a mk 15 with 80 cleave stat which shows 11.70 cleave

red mesa
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so if its < 1

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i shouldn't ever feel it

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right?

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just not super knowledge how that works

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gotcha 11.66 was a 78 or 79% i had

violet hornet
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Yeah I'm not sure if that means you're damaging 11 or 12 targets

red mesa
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so .4 cleave, less than "half a hit mass"

sharp zodiac
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You'll still be staggering them regardless it won't be like as if they'll phase through the blade but they will not be damaged

violet hornet
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But I think as long as it's in the same integer as an 80% cleave one you're good

sharp zodiac
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The maximum cleave cap is 4

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So after 4 the enemy isn't being damaged however is being staggered

red mesa
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so the stat kind of literally doesnt matter

sharp zodiac
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Not too important

red mesa
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except if i was under 11, i would stagger 1 less enemy

sharp zodiac
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But not a dump stat

left iron
sharp zodiac
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Claim your just reward guardian

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10 fucking poxbursters

fleet zealot
violet hornet
proud jackal
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the widdle hanz

dark zealot
ornate bone
sharp zodiac
dark zealot
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I guess if I ever decided that i wanted a horde clear ranged weapon i have it now

sharp zodiac
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What are thy preferred blessings for the flamer

dark zealot
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i thought it was overpressure and the other one does a similar thing

fading vale
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blaze away is the only one that really does anything atm cause overpressure is bugged

dark zealot
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blaze away thats it

fading vale
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ideally it would be blaze and overpressure

ornate bone
fading vale
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you don't want either of those perks sadly

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could still get lucky though

ornate bone
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Noted

dark zealot
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i mean the thing already will kill the horde fodder

fading vale
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elites/flak/unyielding pretty solid perks

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I'm partial to elites and flak

tawny tangle
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hey yall just did some like testing in the pyskward and have come to the conclusion that fan the flames does literally nothing, primary attack staggers everything except ogryns and adding fan the flames did not change that.

dark zealot
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beat normal damn again

tawny tangle
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quickflame? just adds reload speed on empty

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i heard blaze away and overpressure dont effect dot damage so those are pretty weak as well

glass pelican
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how good is this thing

dark zealot
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isnt that the slug?

red mesa
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ya i mean, this isn't special but ive just not abused it a lot personally. crit evis build is kinda dumb

tawny tangle
open echo
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anyone got a link to the mod that allows you too see all cosmetics?

bronze crow
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I paid it with the new cowboy gun with the 50 percent rending on critical hit and crucian roulette and it’s unironically really fun

north sedge
delicate shadow
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it's under too much pressure pensivecowboy

placid lily
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@drowsy steppe

drowsy steppe
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you bitch

summer tree
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Any Zealots in here beat the secret hard mode?

placid lily
plucky gate
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it was pretty rough

ebon granite
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I just done it

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You're a backpack corruption healer + Mine Dearming

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nothing more

versed atlas
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I feel conflicted about executor since a single non weak spot hit resets it

plucky gate
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I ran evis in the fight and the rev does great against the shields

cunning zodiac
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this worth picking up at melk?

dark zealot
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beat em a third time

ebon granite
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At this point, I just feel like playing Ogryn against hard mode twin is the only way

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4 dude, mag dump into the shield

sharp zodiac
ebon granite
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else you just asking to be failing repeatedly until getting lucky

sharp zodiac
exotic portal
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Rat trapper got me on first floor, i flew up to the 2nd floor from where i jumped

dark zealot
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i mean if everyone just used the columnus mk 5 and dumped it into her shield

exotic portal
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"timed attack"

dark zealot
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but no gotta bring the plasma gun

exotic portal
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aim botters

dark zealot
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be a psyker

red mesa
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been using this for my crit build.
no shred but tbh, it pumps off cd and wrecks hordes anyway.
i dont usually use the crit build, just kinda messing with it. Anything important im missing in the talents? IM aware shred blessing would be even more crit, but momentum also feels very 'safe'

dark zealot
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and yeah i did just bring a flamer... im a zealot i still can shred him in melee

nocturne burrow
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I am new to Zealot, does anyone know if all masks change the voice or is it just the premium store? Or can all classes change their voice?

plucky gate
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I'm pretty sure it depends on the helmet

vocal pulsar
sharp zodiac
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If it just covers your face no

vocal pulsar
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not all masks in the premium store

sharp zodiac
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But if it's like a gas mask or a respirator of some kind yes

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Well..

dark zealot
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my reward btw

strange kestrel
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that is bad

sharp zodiac
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CHANGIN the voice I mean in terms of a different pitch and all of that is a specific helm I don't care to remember

nocturne burrow
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thanks for the info, It sounded so cool, also funny because I think they were fanatic too

dark zealot
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this thing changes the voice a lot

bronze crow
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The psyker navigator helmets change the voice if I remember right

sharp zodiac
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It does

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The new one

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Not the old version

dark zealot
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its such an ugly thing to wear

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but the voice change is the real thing you get it for

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since you cant see yourself in a game

sharp zodiac
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Exactly why I only got the chest

nocturne burrow
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They should put an option in the viewing of helmets that makes your character say something if it can change the voice. Be a cool QoL

dark zealot
strange kestrel
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Nah

plucky gate
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i would just sell tbh

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actual garbage

cunning zodiac
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can i save this or no?

dark zealot
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oh yeah and this?

strange kestrel
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Extract brutal momentum for when u get a rashad

plucky gate
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I don't think tac axe blessings even transfer to combat axes

dark zealot
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they dont

strange kestrel
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Then just sell

dark zealot
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different suffix

cerulean pike
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Get the blessings anyways in case they make taxes great again

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I just get blessings cause I wanna see my blessing wall filled up

dark zealot
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yeah

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id rather just get them for the collection if anything

eager epoch
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OG Chainaxe seems decent now

dark zealot
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look at all these junk knives

sharp zodiac
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Straight into thee bin since ye have all thy blessings there

dark zealot
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i normally use skins to mark things with better stats or higher stats

ornate bone
zinc talon
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Absolutely necessary for my A Pimp Named Kickback

cerulean pike
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You know

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I saw no need to get the name it mod

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But you sold me on it

dark zealot
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my inventory is fillef with knife or evis

zinc talon
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Shiel Harmstronk and Buzz Sawldrin must have a voice

left iron
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Here we go again

sharp zodiac
zinc talon
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Jorj Crushintons and Slayburham Lincoln must be heard

dark zealot
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why did i mark this one out?

regal sorrel
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What weapons would ye recommend for melting strong enemies?
Currently trying to kill the twins

zinc talon
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likely hand tremors caused by early onset arthritis

ornate bone
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kek

ornate bone
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i already have this ruined one

sharp zodiac
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Defence is primarily a dump stat and all thy other stats are good enough

dark zealot
zinc talon
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my defense is I don't let them hit me

sharp zodiac
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Basically what he said

dark zealot
#

then a chain or power wepaon

ornate bone
#

what about when da bosses come to clap ur cheeks

dark zealot
#

clap em back

zinc talon
#

I make em buy me dinner and wait til the third date

sharp zodiac
#

Yeah that

zinc talon
#

and they're fuckin whores they don't have that kinda patience

#

bam, zero attention

ornate bone
regal sorrel
dark zealot
fleet zealot
#

the twins are weak to the weapon they don't use

zinc talon
dark zealot
zinc talon
#

to save some of the intrigue for you

languid canyon
#

has anyone tried perfect stikes and bloodthirsty on the new evis?

fleet zealot
#

even with crit

#

savage sweep is better

sharp zodiac
#

Would be funny if they realized this and rinda grabbed a gun and her brother grabbed a lil knife

#

What then

fleet zealot
#

but new evi doesn't want any cleave blessings

ornate bone
#

Shoot anime bitch hit gun boy

languid canyon
#

ok gotcha

fleet zealot
#

new evi wants rampage + shred or another non cleave blessing

zinc talon
#

if you're building a dedicated hard mode twins eviscerator

regal sorrel
#

How good is the new evicirator?
Un the context of fighting the twins

zinc talon
#

you want bloodthirty to be able to start chaining crits to dump on elites/boss

zinc talon
#

and rev it up to scoot across the room

#

then carapace and flak

sharp zodiac
#

Since their body is flak

zinc talon
#

I promise, it will outshine other setups for that fight

sharp zodiac
#

And head is cara like that of thee mauler

ornate bone
#

dis is near impossible

#

atleast with randoms dnno

ripe quest
vast basin
zinc talon
#

consider having someone split sword lady away from dudebro

#

shoot her shields

dark zealot
sharp zodiac
#

For example

zinc talon
#

then turn and nuke the dude

vast basin
#

I got Karnak damnation first try

sharp zodiac
#

Say I and okri are fighting the twins

ornate bone
#

💀

zinc talon
#

You can kill the bosses one at a time

ornate bone
#

give me ur luck

sharp zodiac
#

I force the woman to go for me because okri is scared of woman

ornate bone
#

my teams dont do that

zinc talon
#

you don't have to evenly dps them

fleet zealot
#

you can break the shooter dude twin shield down then focus the sister

ornate bone
#

i guess the range one is best to focus?

dark zealot
#

yes

fleet zealot
#

focus the ranged one cause once he is dead, the sister is just tank and spank, block, dodge, and kill

dark zealot
#

gang up on em like its your average JJK "fight"

fleet zealot
#

side eyes you

zinc talon
#

the bosses only poof and do the gas event twice

#

on the third reappear you can kill off the first one then 100-0 the other

north sedge
#

if you're gonna chain weapon for it, just chaxe it

dark zealot
#

another keeper knife

zinc talon
#

eviscerator with bloodthirsty rev it up flak and carapace

#

new chainaxe with headtaker and thrust elite and carapace

#

you're already over damage on flak

#

and with thrust and headtaker the boss damage difference is largely academic

sharp zodiac
#

Basically?

#

Don't die

dark zealot
#

i mean thats the game?

ripe quest
#

If you want the Thammer equivalent for the twins use a Chaxe.

zinc talon
#

zealot bible thump can be used to get the entire team across the room with zero issues

#

if you have a psucker, have him drop a shield in the middle of the room for the person splitting sword lady off

#

so they can get toughness regen out of cohesion

#

also gives them a visual reference not to stray to far cuz sword lady dashes

dark zealot
#

i just dodge from her

#

and hope my dodge toughness regen is enough

zinc talon
#

veteran grenade regen paired with ogryn nuke grenade can completely change elite clear

regal sorrel
zinc talon
#

Thunder Hammers are dogshit for the twins fight

#

because they aren't unyielding

#

bring armor penetrating ranged weapons like the bolter and revolvers

#

to help get em off your mates

delicate shadow
#

Rinda is easy to duel people just need to stop panicking and just actually give it a go lmao

zinc talon
#

stun grenades help

#

corruption healing is fantastic

sharp zodiac
#

It's like fighting a tiny fleshbag that can't grab you

zinc talon
#

bible thump is a must if you want to largely guarantee you win the fight with randos

delicate shadow
#

also duelling her is fucking fun like, it's the only fun part of the whole fight

zinc talon
#

chastize can also help pulp bosses but you have to know the opportunity to use it

#

so start with bible thump corruption healing stun grenades, all of you

nocturne burrow
zinc talon
#

pick both 5% movement speed pips

north sedge
#

yea like "shield is down" and "ok time to chastise"

nocturne burrow
#

Oh man that was funny

zinc talon
#

momentum is a plus cuz you're running across the room a lot

#

a max mobility new chainaxe doesn't slow down when you rev it while sprinting

plucky gate
#

Rinda is easy to 1v1 as long as you know she's on you.
For our clear I was on Rinda duty while the other 3 were on Ronda + elites

zinc talon
#

and if you're full speed sprint when you charge a heavy you'll cover almost as much ground as if you weren't charging a heavy attack

plucky gate
#

basically just have a dedicated rinda fighter and it's a lot easier

cerulean pike
#

Tbh I'd say the other way around

placid fiber
#

Were any mods broken by the last update?

cerulean pike
#

3 of your team drag rinda around, one person on the ranged fucker and just have him on a kick loop

dark zealot
#

i mean that ideal

cerulean pike
#

kick loop makes him pretty much worthless

zinc talon
#

sword lady is easiest for a shield tank to handle fwiw

plucky gate
#

I found rinda a lot more manageable 1v1
It's just hard to hit her when she's switching aggro all the time

dark zealot
#

but you all need to jump him once shield is down

zinc talon
#

her sword hits do next to no stamina damage

#

and you don't have to worry about mines at all

dark zealot
#

so if three people are on one side

zinc talon
#

just food for thought

dark zealot
#

and he is on the other side you wont do enough damage to him

placid fiber
#

ooo a new darktide mod loader update lol

plucky gate
#

And the gun dude is really quick to kill
So the plan was 3 people nuke ronda and then we all gang up on rinda after

zinc talon
#

and don't split the bosses across the room, stay in one of the four corners adjacent to each other

#

sword lady dashes

#

that can leave everyone in the dust

cerulean pike
#

i'd prefer to kill gun dude first cause of the damn mines

fleet zealot
#

people should pop mines if they actively aren't doing anything

zinc talon
#

mines can be sprinted through

zinc talon
#

clearing mines is something everyone should be doing

cerulean pike
#

a lot

fleet zealot
#

straight up, mines are only bad if they are compounded by another issue

dark zealot
zinc talon
#

good man/person/woman/thing

#

that's all I got, go forth and spread fuckery

cerulean pike
#

Especially as ogryn and zealot

zinc talon
#

and Die for the Emperor

plucky gate
zinc talon
#

or Die Trying

cerulean pike
#

big line of mines? press f

#

no more mines

dark zealot
#

it quite simple if everyone plays their role and when they get down time try to get rid of mines

dark zealot
#

but the randoms

#

they dont

fleet zealot
#

yea I hate when we are trying to go through the gas phase and there is just a shit load of mines

cerulean pike
#

When the gas phase is starting I always pop a few mines since you'd have time to do that very easily

dark zealot
placid fiber
#

Do you walk into the circle to trigger mines then walk out?

dark zealot
#

yee

#

just sprint in then out

cerulean pike
#

i hit the edge then dodge back

dark zealot
#

dont try and do more than three at once

plucky gate
#

that or i walk through their edge if i'm trying to get past them

cerulean pike
#

I basically play em like they're crusher or mauler overheads

#

That or i just chastise/bull rush through em

dark zealot
#

cringe

delicate shadow
#

I just step in and out of the radius as I run past them

cerulean pike
#

I'd shove incan into a mine

ornate bone
#

randoms cant even do malice spec assignment

#

😩

cerulean pike
#

i'd use it if purple rarity it isn't just dog shit

plucky gate
#

I don't like losing a dodge from dumping mobility too much

cerulean pike
#

it don't matter much to me tbh

zealous basin
#

51 mobility or die

dark zealot
#

see i do have better (also theres my old one)

cerulean pike
#

oof the perks on that orange one

plucky gate
#

hadron was not kind

dark zealot
cerulean pike
#

the 377 evis is worse than the profane one you showed

#

362 is
ok

dark zealot
#

thats the meme one

#

the fake "god roll"

cerulean pike
#

I've run a lot of low dodge shit so like, losing a dodge from mobility doesn't change much for me

dark zealot
#

im still a knife addict

#

so i like 4 minimum

cerulean pike
#

for me it's less losing a dodge
and more, if i have over 51 mobility i gain a dodge

#

just makes my life easier but not required

like twbs

plucky gate
#

I could live without it too

#

but i want everything

#

every breakpoint, every dodge

dark zealot
#

got high 70s or 80... but no cleave at all

#

id rather get bad low stats because they are cheaper blessing fodder

#

high stats that are bad are just wasted potential keepers

cerulean pike
#

i'd rather get higher stats since

ornate bone
cerulean pike
#

higher chance of t4

ornate bone
plucky gate
#

I'd rather get high bad stats than bad low stats because they sell for more ordo dockets

#

I don't roll either one

#

I only roll good stats

#

simply spend millions of ordo dockets for good bases

dark zealot
#

in the midst of selling i found this

left iron
#

It'll do for now NODDERS

north sedge
left iron
north sedge
#

no it's never ok

sturdy cypress
north sedge
#

it's never ok to not flesh tearer lacerate

sturdy cypress
#

"Post the gif, zealot chat!"

left iron
#

No fuck off

north sedge
left iron
north sedge
#

my works must be shown ice, they must be shown

dark zealot
#

better

cunning zodiac
#

christ almighty. new evis plus chastise

faint marsh
#

chat i finally did it

#

i finally had good luck with brunt and hadron

#

we are so back

solid current
faint marsh
#

finally

strange kestrel
#

thats good

faint marsh
#

so happy

#

part of why i had a shitty knife was bad luck tbqh

#

couldn’t roll a decent number until today

dark zealot
#

i mean maybe for the twins?

languid jetty
#

ok so haymaker can trigger on push attacks

drowsy steppe
#

FLES TEARER LACERATE

woeful oyster
#

This any good?

drowsy steppe
#

RIP AND TEAR TILL ITS DONE

#

!!!

dark zealot
#

actually even with bonus carapace

#

its worse than my chain sword

north sedge
#

Bring chaxe if you're making something specifically for that fight

dark zealot
#

i have one with thunderous high pen and damage but terrible shredder

#

57%

smoky pewter
#

Crucian Roulette good on autoguns?

dark zealot
#

like bruh

#

70% damage i could work with

zinc talon
dark zealot
#

then this an old chaxe but has unyielding

#

so its not helpful

north sedge
#

Other than perfect stats yea pretty awful

dark zealot
#

if it had cara it might be better if i headshot than my chainsword

north sedge
#

Chaxe will still do better and you have 3 rolls left before you even write that off

frozen glen
#

other than perfect stats and it having a good perk

#

yea pretty awful

left iron
#

Red gets dogged for the 4th time behind fire somewhere far ahead

fleet zealot
#

HAVE A HOLLY
JOLLY
SCREAMMAS

dark zealot
#

only other thing i can think of is this

frozen glen
#

😭

left iron
#

Fine, the other times were trappers

#

I'll concede that

frozen glen
#

yes

dense karma
#

cant track down thrust 4 so this will do

#

flamer wants flak/unyielding right

left iron
north sedge
#

Elites works too

dense karma
#

also why do i always get the games of all time on my hsword

#

anyways time to suffer due to only 5 build slots

zinc talon
#

the clutch aoe taunt to stop the charger and grab the whole rooms attention

#

then going into the next room and taunting all that too

#

and skedaddling back to the team once they've had the time to get themselves up cuz everything's trying to eat my spleen

#

Tanking.

#

Stupid.

dense karma
#

half of that video tabbing around btw

zinc talon
#

Brave, yes, exciting, yes, but Stupid

#

blegh thanks, hold please

fading vale
fleet zealot
zinc talon
#

there is a single solitary fucking fruitfly that is making its life mission to either crawl inside my ear or land on my fucking eyeball

dense karma
#

i should probably pick up that mod

zinc talon
#

I'm about to douse the room in Off and failing that just burn the house down

zinc talon
#

the other ogryn's scream is just icing on the cake

plucky gate
#

I'm never throwing a nade when i hear a burster sound ever again

dense karma
#

alright time to try out this new chainaxe

hidden nacelle
#

lmao the invisible shield

#

using the ol meat hooks

dense karma
#

alright how should you be using chaxe mk12

zinc talon
#

I've decided I'm gonna change people I don't like's morning alarm to a steadily increasing burster intensity

north sedge
#

it goes brr, and they go ahhhh

dense karma
#

i see

north sedge
#

lights for horde, heavies for elites

zinc talon
#

light attacks bonk and cleave

#

very effectively

north sedge
#

rev heavy if it's big enough

zinc talon
#

heavy attacks auto rev

#

light revs should kill everything but ogryn

#

heavies for the rest

dense karma
#

alright

zinc talon
#

and don't sleep on the push stab, it's a one shot dispatch to smol and standard sized

#

it costs nothing to rev while sprinting

dense karma
#

just need to figure out when to rev and what rev to use

zinc talon
#

and if you're full speed sprinting a heavy attack charging shuldn't slow you down much at all from full sprint speed

#

heavy attack auto rev will get you up to mutants and ragers

#

those take a weakspot light rev or heavy rev

#

gunners/shot might take more than a single heavy auto rev

#

dogs/snipers/tox/bombers/flamers all onetap on weakspot with even moderate damage blessings

dense karma
#

worth mentioning i dont have thrust rn

zinc talon
#

you'll lose that vcard someday buddy

#

headtaker is the first 'best' thing to get

#

as it pairs with thrust and slaughter both

dense karma
#

yeah i just have slaughterer/headtaker rn

zinc talon
#

thunderous pairs beautifully with thrust

#

my thrust 4 thunderous 4 can oneshot a crusher with a single push to apply 4 stacks before a heavy rev

solid current
#

going back to last night

#

i havent seen a decent vet in a minute on auric

#

what a real one

dense karma
#

so when do you want to light rev?

north sedge
#

chaxe can one shot crushers without thunderous, it's a very easy breakpoint to hit

zinc talon
#

quick dispatch of standard size cuz it should kill them in just a tick maybe two

solid current
#

(flexes big numbers)

zinc talon
#

sprinting to specials

#

to kill them as the group gets alerted

#

and to stun ragers and maulers and crushers out of their attacks

#

auto rev isn't a guaranteed stun

#

esp at high tiers

solid current
#

the other two zealots were also knife zealots but they kinda died constantly

#

stealth knife zealot is very lame

ripe quest
# dense karma alright how should you be using chaxe mk12

The lights are horde clear, they also have a good chunk of single target damage for some reason. They can 3-4 shot some elites. Heavies are low commitment big damage, and special revs are high commitment bigger damage. The weapon pairs really well with Thrust.

dense karma
#

alrighty ty all

#

god i better get thrust 4 soon

zinc talon
#

what those sweatlords look and sound like

#

yeah man, very cool, you sure did clutch the rescue with stealth didn't you

#

your stealth aggro dump is also the reason we all died

ashen quartz
#

nothing like watching a loner zealot kite a poxwalker crowd for 1.5 minutes while they slowly bleed out

ripe quest
# zinc talon thunderous pairs beautifully with thrust

Thunderous is only for Carapace. It's worse than Headtaker for everything else. You can also hit the same BPs against Carapace so it's more for the base rev attacks spamming, smth like Thunderous/Headtaker on the Mk IV along with Punishment will ruin Crushers.

zinc talon
#

I can kill slugs in 4 heavy revs

#

almost exactly 25% health a hit

#

and I can psykanium kill a demon in twenty seconds or so

#

so bosses too is all I meant

#

but thrust is a bit of a high ask in combat

#

the range on your axe is shorter than you expect/want

#

and bosses like spawns can legitimately knock you out of range right as you're about to swing

#

like fucking clockwork

#

certain missions like mostly melee where half the mission is crushers and boss fights like assassination and the twins

#

works beautifully there

#

elsewhere headtaker and slaughter take the lead

delicate horizon
#

decent enough? what should I replace?

ripe quest
#

I don't have exact numbers but 1 stack of Thrust outpaces Thunderous for non-Carapace enemies iirc

zinc talon
#

getting the swing to land is more important than bigger numbers

#

lol imagine getting that fuckin swing timing into your muscle memory for hectic combat

smoky pewter
#

So is Crucian Roulette desirable on autogun, or skip this?

ripe quest
#

At the very least 2 stacks absolutely will, which matches up with the early thrust swing bug that Chaxe has rn

zinc talon
#

it's not alone, and those weapons still have it

#

I would hedge expectations as to its fix

#

there'sd really only one blatant action to force the 2 charge release, don't remember what it is but boy was I good at doing it without thinking when seconds mattered

north sedge
#

thrust is not difficult to use in a fight

sharp zodiac
zinc talon
#

the axe, makes it difficult

#

because of its swing arc and overall reac h

#

it's very easy to get jostled out of range as you're releasing

pseudo valve
#

Any recommendations? Feels like a good roll

ripe quest
#

I think Chaxe is the only weapon to have the issue afaik. It's a thing with revs and thrust. At the very least Thammer doesn't have it.

zinc talon
#

or have your aim sent to something you didn't want to hit

ripe quest
dense karma
#

hey isnt this a person here

zinc talon
#

grenade gauntlet had it day one right up to pinpointing revamp

pseudo valve
#

Maybe flak?

#

Feel like I already onetap most maniacs with this

zinc talon
#

carapace and unyielding

#

unyielding and elite

#

depending on your crusher heaviest hit breakpoints

#

go see how much health a t5 crusher has after you give it the biggest boop you can

pseudo valve
#

Yeah that tracks

ripe quest
zinc talon
#

cuz elite still hits crushers 10%

#

if you're building for the twins fight

#

carapace flak

pseudo valve
#

local priest revs chaxe with murderous intent

glass crown
#

Ay zealots, how's the flamer doing now adays? Good, bad?

sharp zodiac
#

Good

glass crown
#

thumbsup_ogryn thank

zinc talon
#

I held an impromptu ted talk about the current state of the flamer

#

and why all of you yes all of you are using it wrong

#

let me find the start

dark zealot
#

but it burns the poxwalkers nice and crispy

north sedge
#

you also didn't know how it worked with chastise, or that you could chastise while firing it

zinc talon
#

thread begins

pseudo valve
#

Hilariously, current chaxe leaves crusher with 1 hp

#

so elite damage it is

sharp zodiac
#

A light breeze could knock em over

pseudo valve
#

basically

#

I killed one donking it with a grenade more or less lol

zinc talon
#

wait, no, thread begins here maybe with explanations of each video, sorry

stray summit
#

They should replace Shroudfield with an ability where you take a box of 30 ogrynheimer bombs and run forwards

ripe quest
zinc talon
#

anecdotal things before actual start

#

videos begin here

balmy oak
#

flamer macro when

zinc talon
#

first real trick technique, rapid left mouse braced fire

north sedge
#

why would you need a macro for flamer

stray summit
#

🤓

balmy oak
#

so you can spam primary fire without clicking rapidly

zinc talon
#

trick #2, wafting the cone back and forth and its difference in stack speed

zinc talon
#

shooting in circles

dark zealot
#

okay but if i want to power move on the heretic and bathe them in a stream of fire?

ripe quest
#

What's new here? It's already been known you can move your flamer back and forth to spread more DoT with less ammo lol

zinc talon
balmy oak
#

I didn't know that

zinc talon
#

and click left mouse rapidly

#

you will fire faster than the flamer can lose fuel

#

and in so doing score extra free blasts that al count as 1 stack

balmy oak
#

so would you still use blaze away?

vocal pulsar
#

crit on flamer does not provide an extra burn stack, unless that has changed recently

#

crit on purga staff does provide an extra burn stack, however

zinc talon
#

I don't prefer BA, it incentivizes wasting fuel

#

watch the wafting video to see the why of it in action

balmy oak
#

what would you use then

north sedge
#

blaze away is wanted for killing elite packs, it's the pick

zinc talon
#

inspiring barrage is always a solid choice

#

overpressure if it's working correctly, idk

ripe quest
#

I feel like the value of BA would outweigh the ammo saved by spamming the button

zinc talon
#

and speedload on empty

balmy oak
#

in the video, are you using blaze away

ripe quest
#

Overpressure doesn't work

plucky gate
vocal pulsar
#

i rarely have issues with flamer ammo

zinc talon
#

good question, lemme see if I have the inventory up in any of these video starts

#

not currently in game

balmy oak
#

I would be willing to try new tech if it deals more damage

dark zealot
#

found in shop?

balmy oak
#

that's pretty good

ripe quest
balmy oak
#

grab it

vocal pulsar
balmy oak
#

pretty much BiS

vocal pulsar
#

not pretty much

balmy oak
#

since you can have 2 free slots

vocal pulsar
#

it IS BIS

#

no doubt about it

ripe quest
#

yee you can make a perfect toughness curio with that.

vocal pulsar
#

put gunner resist and 5%hp

#

for perks

plucky gate
zinc talon
dark zealot
#

and now ill never see one ever again

balmy oak
zinc talon
#

since crit counts equally for both holding down the trigger and wasting fuel or these other techniques I show you

balmy oak
#

would a blaze away one be worse off doing continuous stream

zinc talon
#

does blaze away affect raw power or damage increase specifically

#

cuz if it's weapon damage only burn stacks prolly don't benefit

ripe quest
#

I'm gonna try to pull it up but a long while ago I did a bit of research on +Crit chance on flamers and it's like, worthless

dark zealot
#

what even is the preferred curio meta?

zinc talon
#

and burn is the primary determinant for damage output, not damage

balmy oak
#

good point

ripe quest
#

It was like, an average of 2-4% increased damage or smth

#

Depended on where you crit

vocal pulsar
smoky pewter
#

So is Crucian Roulette a good get, or should I skip it?

zinc talon
#

I ran crit solely because flamer crits lay double burn stacks

balmy oak
#

some people run toughness/stam regen

#

I run ally pickup sometimes

dark zealot
#

i got used to three hp

zinc talon
#

and also all my other flamers had experiment changing perks and blessings

ripe quest
zinc talon
#

well good

#

task failed successfully

vocal pulsar
#

dont reccomend toughness or stam regen

#

on zealot

zinc talon
#

toughness regen curios affect both the rate at which you regenerate your bar

#

as well as lowering the delay time before it starts to fill

ornate bone
#

-5 toughness dmg reduction or this ?

dark zealot
#

i meant like the curio blessing

#

i know toughness regens bad for perks

left iron
ornate bone
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ye no idea how that work

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lmao

zinc talon
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yep that only fills once every what, ten seconds

ripe quest
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Toughness regen is ok but like, being super aggressive can hinder the effectiveness of it. I remain having an open mind since Tyr said it was good so idk

zinc talon
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and usually you only build maybe eight stacks in actual combat

dark zealot
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what about the boss though?

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constantly moving and dodging

left iron
# ornate bone ye no idea how that work

It can only trigger when you activate the buff. Basically on first swing, then every time off cooldown but you're already killing things and probably have full toughness anyway

vocal pulsar
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and uses a wound curio

dark zealot
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like i have three 20% hp curios with 5% perks on all three

ripe quest
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What does he use the wound curio for? It's sometimes nice with certain Maelstroms

dark zealot
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350hp zealot

placid fiber
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So, uh, what do I need to know about the twins? >.>

vocal pulsar
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376

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150 toughness

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4x wounds

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it's pretty good

placid fiber
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I saw them a little bit from the times they randomly spawned

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I know about the gas bombs

dark zealot
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what does toughness even actually do?

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i get it reduces damage to hp

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but how?

placid fiber
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drastically increases survivability...?

zinc talon
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okay

clear notch
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we're so fucked

zinc talon
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at full toughness

dark zealot
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and why would more tougness be better than more hp?

clear notch
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i'm not beating the twins with pugs

zinc talon
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you can soak one melee attack from almost everything

clear notch
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fuck this holy shit

zinc talon
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with no damage to your health

vocal pulsar
zinc talon
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at less than 100% toughness, damage will bleed through proportionally to health

ripe quest
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I am well aware.

placid fiber
zinc talon
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at 0%, all damage hits health

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the exception is ranged fire

balmy oak
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For some reason , burn now goes through toughness?

zinc talon
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toughness will 100% soak ranged damage until emp[ty

ripe quest
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It's a negligable increase to damage, +Crit Chance gets overshadowed completely by other perks.