#zealot-class
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then don't pretend you are doing some secret meta
you will do more bleed damage with uncanny strike than lacerate
Lmao what?
if you like bleed then try to run uncanny and flesh tearer
Dude... you're grasping at fucking straws bucko
you won't even listen about the BETTER bleed builds
speaking about scoreboard above
you're attaching your ego to a video game knife it's sad
Lazz, look at boss damage
new chaxe is basically new t-hammer
also why you changed your nick
@fading vale
stan called me Lars
Dude... the cognitive dissonance... I just said I love stealth zealot. You're the one throwing a hissy fit and trying to throw every last "ERM AKTUALLY IT"s not optimized"
who the fuck is stan
Stan is stan
I'd call you a nerd but that's an insult to them
the bleed stacks I can leave on some poor sod is insane
the dude who likes toes and skulls
Who pinged?
then don't give up on it
I mean, on damnation you are hindrance to team
You basically sabotaging the game for others
someone pinged you instead of me by mistake
obviously something is bothering you when you are told, hey, maybe your for fun build isn't even good for a 4fun build
No one, you imagined it
Ah no worries
why are you guys being such dicks like damn
I've seen my friend play stealth zzealot on damnation and damn well, not bleed stealth zealot but still.
cause I was polite and focused on improving the concept of her build and she gets pissy
Because cognitive dissonance, anything that isn't meta inherently makes them go shitter mode
stealth lets me push on the objective safely when the rest of the team is otherwise stuck dealing with horde
Evi is not meta, but it is good
Knife is borderline garbage
we all know bleed is bad you don't have to just immediately be dicks though, just don't engage
true
"Improve the concept" did I fucking ask? As you did was be a dickbag
we should let misinformation run rampant
Why say anything at all then if you are not ready to engage in convo
All I did was post my fucking build and y’all went for my throat talking down on it like a bunch of toxic trolls you didn’t have to say anything if u don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say anything but naw y’all wanna be animals like every other troll and thru the safety of the internet you run your mouth and then talk smack about me it’s ridiculous and not fair of anyone to treat some one like that and u have the audacity to say I’m going thru somthing nah you and all the other trolls like you need to get over what your going thru and act right
or you can do what I do and just post the correct information
i did but okay
without starting a pissy war
give correct information
You're actually a fucking narcissistic mfer on god.
and ignore the person
is it some pasta/
yes
on jah?
Yes, also I'm a she you batshit insane loon.
🍿
okay I'll correct it thanks for telling me
what is happening
how well does the chainaxe work now
Idk
I'm nonbinary but whatever, you jsut looking for reasosn to stay mad cause everyone is backing off you
standard bleed knife malding argument
me when i find out lacerate mercy killer is in fact not good
Stop bothering the bleed enjoyer. T5 is piss easy with any build.
that should be obvious
"but I do well with bleed" "IT'S DOGSHIT" so on and so forth
like, idk how many times I have to type "but if that is what you want to play go play it" jsut for the person to stay and mald
you can do well with a bad build
Does well. The Mk IV has revs on the lights that are fast but stick into enemies, and the Mk XII has heavies that are slower and harder hitting but a similar vibe. Special revs do big damage for both.
it does not make it a good build
it's an endless cycle and honestly lazorr is right
got any builds for it?
i want to use a axe
bleed is affected by rending?
it's like that one episode of rick and morty, where simply, I don't engage and I win, no attention
yes
yeah it will be an inifinite discussion
looking for 3 more zealots thatve done the twins on damnation, i wanna kill them in the secret mode.
yes
rending increases the damage of most dots
ik it works for soulblaze and bleed
also what stats should i look for in a axe
As Ogryn gamer I'm a bit confused what this talent means
Dodging bullets by running or only melee attacks?
Thank you man, at somebody's gonna not go full lunatic over having fun.
I don't have any on me rn. I'll grab one rq
dump mobility, defenses, and cleave targets (cleave targets on axes does basically nothing)
nothing to do with what it says it does really, it just means you can maintain sprint dodging bullets when you run sideways at 0 stam
When you run diagonally to someone shooting at you, you dodge their shots
But only if you have stamina
With this talent, you don't need to have it
perks flak maniac, unyielding carapace elites also good
blessing brutal momentum+headtaker
Ahhh nice
or BM+decimator
No problem. They are right about it being suboptimal, you're right about not giving a damn about what others think.
What was the point of sharing this build again?
When someone asks about that talent you really should tell first that you dodge while sprinting at all, because i did not know it for super long time, nowhere in the game it is mentioned
This is how it works in any community that cares about optimizing.
If you're not part of the crowd, you get dogged on
there is a ton of mechanics and shit the game doesn't explain
I'm not even advocating meta
There's no stopping it, people are tribal in nature.
just be happier and play ogryn and spam heavy attacks, i love ogryn
wasn't the dodging while sprinting thing part of the psykanium tutorial?
No I know. I'm just asking why there was any real friction to begin with?
No, devilclaw is suboptimal. New chsword is suboptimal. Knife is trash. There is difference between being not the best, and being hindrande to the team
Nah, you optimize the game until it's not fun anymore, then go back to running shit builds on maelstrom to give the game a chance
Can you lot not be socially maladapted for five fucking minutes
no
Thanks dude
Did anyone pay attention to that
No
Honestly, optimizing the game at all is not fun for a lot of people
But you shouldn't deride anyone for it
I can't be happy with ogryn's dodges 
Smth like this. You can make anything work except crit build and stealth imo. For Chaxe perks are a bit loose, Mk IV likes Flak + Elites/Cara/Unyielding and Mk XII likes Flak + Elites/Maniac. Blessings are Thrust/Slaughterer/Headtaker. You can use any ranged weapon with them really, but something like a Kant Shotgun or a Flamer helps since their horde clear isn't the strongest.
i'm advocating the same bleed build but overall easier to do and also sharing a mechanic people don't instantly know about xd
thank you
which one do I keep?
In fact, being negative about it at all serves no purpose but to put people off from trying to get better with or without a miiddling kit
TL;DR - you're not helping anyone
Real Zealot hours y'know?
Anyway, my eviscerator is so scuffed.
can you pay for my medical bills?
All I have is fuckin' wrath on it
well i would be happy if someone told me that knife is trash before i spent fuckn 200k to get high power knife and another 2k palsteel to upgrade them
Stabby stabby
Knife isn't trash though
You just have to know what you're doing with it and you kinda just....didnt at the time?
I agree with this, I think knife if built properly is a perfectl fine weapon, not meta but it's usuable
Yeah fuck a meta
the problem with knife is a lot of people fall into traps because fatshark doesn't explain mechanics
It's about what the individual is skilled with
How’s this axe going so far
I can't even pay for my own
I'm out here without a therapist or anti-depressants because I'm a foreigner so I'm forced to self-medicate however I can for my PTSD and ADHD
Not quite sure about perks, I'm sure @fading vale has them on hand. I will note that Surgical/Hand Cannon is extremely nice on that Revolver, so smth like taking one blessing and slapping it on the other is probs what you want.
You can play this game with white weapons if you're good enough at it
oh that's a tactical axe uhh
what blessings are good on the chainaxe
Yeah, that's what I want to do, but which to go with... 😅
slaught headtaker, or slaught/headtaker+ thrust
Thrust/Headtaker/Slaughterer.
hello red
Someone's excited
you definitely want surgical hand cannon, flak maniac on revolver is ideal, but elites is fine too I think
Thanks Larzorr :>
i am playing darktide as zealot and im chatting in darktide zealot chat
I almost cried when this happened cause this was my first 380
What knife blessings should I pair with that?
God damn it I got executor on my knife...
i'd cry too
I'm gonna die inside now
executor is good on knife brooooooo
executor got fixed right
so it's solid now
yeahhhhhhhhhh
it is fixed, finally
executor is a viable sidegrade to precognition
it is now among the few things in this game that both work and have an accurate tooltip
Btw does anyone else run at least +20% ally rev speed
they do different things
id say precog is a direct upgrade to mercy killer
being precog and executor
straight 60% upgrade lol
I see, so basically I actually got a blessing in disguise.
TIme to stab shit better now.
It's odd since normally you'd want the +power since it affects the cleave profile better, but it's knife lol. Precog is a tiny bit more damage than 30% power.
It's like, 40% or smth for weakspot
Debating if I should actually play or do the sliding while emoting glitch in lobby
Emote slide glitch my beloved, hope they never patch it.
well I wouldn't give up uncanny on knife like ever
unless rending gets fixed to not be ridiculous then mayb
Hi guys we changed rending again, but added shred and 4x finesse to compensate
Hope it doesn't get too broken ok ty bye
hey fellas we nerfed the thing that caps at 100% so you can't go above 100% on revolver now
#fixed
what is up gang
it existed in vt2. but ONLY for the ratling gunner.
so it made sense bc it was a single enemy, in a single tough situation, and only effected certain classes bc not everyone had ranged
so the way they expanded it to "half the enemies in the game suppress you" in darktide
it just feels fucking bad
im sure you know that just gabbing/agreeing
also sorry, im late, had my chat paused an hour ago and didn't realize lmao
I guess for what its worth, I've only noticed it on shotgunners/machinegunners/reapers lately.
Random adds don't seem to suppress me anymore, just aimpunch.
But yeah, I'm not really sure what the solution is.
Call of Duty hasn't ever had suppression. You just took damage for peaking your head out of cover for too long.
just had a malding veteran
was tempted to let him die at the end of the mission
sadly another zealot got him up
I guess we're just running up against Fatshark's teething pains. Its pretty obvious they've never made a first person shooter before, and half the community literally just wants VT2
so there's no good way to actually implement ranged enemies cause everyone is like MELEE MELEE MELEE MELEE MELEE MELEE ONLLLLLLYYYYYYYY
and then they want their stupid oneshot meta with ranged weapons to deal with suppression mechanics instead of just fixing the ranged problem altogether
i actually think i played well that time, sure i got seperated towards the end from the objective and team... but the orgyn was trapped and fire bombs seperated us
so either let the ogryn die or save him and regroup
aint our fault the vet wanted to play hero and didnt follow
Bolter getting oneshot breakpoints make sense. And frankly that's it.
But at this point, we're running into the problem of weapons having the same damage profiles on elites/specials and adds, when it should probably not be that way. An MG12 oneshotting a dreg stalker or scab stalker makes sense. It oneshotting every special but mutants, and every elite but ogryns doesn't.
Let alone shit like plasma gun and revolver.
an mg12 can 1 shot a mauler, rager?
no way lol
the basic bitch lasgun?
i dont see anyone use anymore?
LOL is this the same ogryn I played with?
What was the reward for hard mode twin fight? I don't think I got anything
insignia
"the scoreboard doesn't lie" 😂
oh yeah I tried using this talent tree
not thats the veteran malding in chat
Executioner's Stance, veteran's red nodes, and critical hit/weakspot damage do crazy things
and generally being a prick
I luv ur pfp 🥺
oh okay nvm lol
Can you show me the insignia? I might have missed it 
ogryn was some guy who joined halfway through and seemed competant
A fellow Watership Down fan I see 
which is why i saved him over sticking with the vet
if the vet couldnt handle it himself... his problem
idk what that is... I just really like bunnies 😅
its like the normal one but wreathed in gold
if someone goes down and i dont see my teamates trying to all rush to regroup around them then i know im gonna have a hard time
description will specifically mention hard mode
Is this it? I don't believe I received it after that fight
does invocation of death restore 1.5 sec of ability coolodwn once per swing or per enemy hit?
yea you didnt
at the start did you guys ring the left or right bell?
that's just normal damnation
I just hit the bell that everyone was hitting
enemy hit
so probably left
hard mode is right bell
also does rev count as 1 hit or several for the purpose of that?
Welp, back to the grinding board 
normal bell vs gold bell
dunno, i assume it's one hit but assuming is bad. i dont play cdr
I thought there was only one bell 
so is antax bad now? what's meta zealot melee weapon and gun?
But no worries, I'll be happy to grind the hard mode fight
antax is still good
play whatever, its basically taxe is meh, knife is mid, everything else play whatever
HOL' UP
Revs count as 1 hit from what I know.
its insignia
no i need THE META build to delete ebverything faster than everyone else
heavy sword revolver obv
ok then uh play whatever weapon that i didnt mention
its not ideal but with enough crit its not terrible
against the twins if i can headshot it helps
just switch crit damage to flak or maniac and then dumdum ez
yeah think thats the plan
then just chastise and rip carapace apart
so dumdum and death splitter
yep
Yep, I didn't get the hard mode insignia, odd.
I'll relog to see if I get it, if not, I'll grind it again
I HATE HARD MODE TWINS I HATE HATE MODE TWIN I HATE HARD MODE TWIN
atleast 10 hours of just pure grinding randoms
how do you feel
that catharsis
is the mk 15 evis any good i got 375 rating from the shop?
I like MK15
better cleave than the old one, if i understood it right?
check the stat on shredder and see what you lose
Feels like it clears hordes just as well, and has decent bleed
first one will have to nail 2 rolls in a row to end up being good though
That’s a lot of chaff
OK I need some advice for my zealot. I want to run chorus as my skill as I just love that skill, and I like the flame grenade. I need assistance figuring out the rest. Seen some zealots that can tank some shit but I also don't like to run off, I want to stick around my teammates. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have an eviscerator and a bolter
Now i only need a good hammer i messing around with a alot of diferent weapons
Worse crowd damage, better single target. It's pretty good.
And it's not much worse, handles crowds fine.
big bad boss moment
do they get stunlocked by this shit
no
I’m jealous of how few weapons you have in your inventory
Today im mesing around with Heavy Sword
zealot just feels so underpowered these days
just doesn't delete as fast as my vet
Trying to find a good axe for twins, should I just keep rolling?
right looks more than fine?
will this give me any issues at 70 cleave. will i lose a max target or something sometimes on certain armor types or nah?
one of the pinned comments mentions "at least 71 cleave stat"
but i havent tested myself if there is a difference
If you inspect the weapon and hover over the cleave targets stat it'll show how many enemies you can cleave through
its 11.3 vs 11.66 value on the light attack cleave targets/stagger
I have a mk 15 with 80 cleave stat which shows 11.70 cleave
so if its < 1
i shouldn't ever feel it
right?
just not super knowledge how that works
gotcha 11.66 was a 78 or 79% i had
Yeah I'm not sure if that means you're damaging 11 or 12 targets
so .4 cleave, less than "half a hit mass"
You'll still be staggering them regardless it won't be like as if they'll phase through the blade but they will not be damaged
But I think as long as it's in the same integer as an 80% cleave one you're good
The maximum cleave cap is 4
So after 4 the enemy isn't being damaged however is being staggered
so the stat kind of literally doesnt matter
Not too important
except if i was under 11, i would stagger 1 less enemy
But not a dump stat
the widdle hanz
the game really said "screw that guy in particular"
Sees ramp, neurons activated
It do be like that with the AI director
I guess if I ever decided that i wanted a horde clear ranged weapon i have it now
What are thy preferred blessings for the flamer
i thought it was overpressure and the other one does a similar thing
blaze away is the only one that really does anything atm cause overpressure is bugged
blaze away thats it
ideally it would be blaze and overpressure
Damn I wish a had a roll like that
Noted
i mean the thing already will kill the horde fodder
hey yall just did some like testing in the pyskward and have come to the conclusion that fan the flames does literally nothing, primary attack staggers everything except ogryns and adding fan the flames did not change that.
beat normal damn again
and the other blessing?
quickflame? just adds reload speed on empty
i heard blaze away and overpressure dont effect dot damage so those are pretty weak as well
how good is this thing
isnt that the slug?
ya i mean, this isn't special but ive just not abused it a lot personally. crit evis build is kinda dumb
something thats super helpful is putting +unarmored and flak so you can almost always 1 shot gunners to the head
anyone got a link to the mod that allows you too see all cosmetics?
I love it
I paid it with the new cowboy gun with the 50 percent rending on critical hit and crucian roulette and it’s unironically really fun
blaze away works fine, overpressure doesnt
it's under too much pressure 
@drowsy steppe
you bitch
Any Zealots in here beat the secret hard mode?

I have
it was pretty rough
I feel conflicted about executor since a single non weak spot hit resets it
I ran evis in the fight and the rev does great against the shields
beat em a third time
At this point, I just feel like playing Ogryn against hard mode twin is the only way
4 dude, mag dump into the shield
Could be better, haymaker is an okee blessin
else you just asking to be failing repeatedly until getting lucky
But I wouldn't recommend it over something like precognition
im an uncanny + precog fan
Rat trapper got me on first floor, i flew up to the 2nd floor from where i jumped
i mean if everyone just used the columnus mk 5 and dumped it into her shield
"timed attack"
but no gotta bring the plasma gun
aim botters
be a psyker
been using this for my crit build.
no shred but tbh, it pumps off cd and wrecks hordes anyway.
i dont usually use the crit build, just kinda messing with it. Anything important im missing in the talents? IM aware shred blessing would be even more crit, but momentum also feels very 'safe'
and yeah i did just bring a flamer... im a zealot i still can shred him in melee
I am new to Zealot, does anyone know if all masks change the voice or is it just the premium store? Or can all classes change their voice?
I'm pretty sure it depends on the helmet
just a few in the premium store
If it just covers your face no
not all masks in the premium store
my reward btw
that is bad
CHANGIN the voice I mean in terms of a different pitch and all of that is a specific helm I don't care to remember
thanks for the info, It sounded so cool, also funny because I think they were fanatic too
this thing changes the voice a lot
The psyker navigator helmets change the voice if I remember right
its such an ugly thing to wear
but the voice change is the real thing you get it for
since you cant see yourself in a game
Exactly why I only got the chest
They should put an option in the viewing of helmets that makes your character say something if it can change the voice. Be a cool QoL
are the blessing even worth salvaging?
Nah
oh yeah and this?
Extract brutal momentum for when u get a rashad
I don't think tac axe blessings even transfer to combat axes
they dont
Then just sell
different suffix
Get the blessings anyways in case they make taxes great again
I just get blessings cause I wanna see my blessing wall filled up
OG Chainaxe seems decent now
look at all these junk knives
Straight into thee bin since ye have all thy blessings there
Absolutely necessary for my A Pimp Named Kickback
my inventory is fillef with knife or evis
Shiel Harmstronk and Buzz Sawldrin must have a voice
Here we go again
Wowowoah now hold on thee kindred that hammer can still be saved
Jorj Crushintons and Slayburham Lincoln must be heard
What weapons would ye recommend for melting strong enemies?
Currently trying to kill the twins
likely hand tremors caused by early onset arthritis
aint some defence important
kek
chain sword
i already have this ruined one
Defence is primarily a dump stat and all thy other stats are good enough
columnus mk5 infantry gun for shooting rinda's shield
my defense is I don't let them hit me
Basically what he said
Ok noted
then a chain or power wepaon
what about when da bosses come to clap ur cheeks
clap em back
I make em buy me dinner and wait til the third date
Yeah that
Guns work on there shield?
I Currently use old evicirator tho I'm thinking of switching to new one since I hear its good
yes the sword one
on rinda specifically
the twins are weak to the weapon they don't use
all I'll say is one shield takes much less damage from ranged, the other much less damage from melee
to save some of the intrigue for you
has anyone tried perfect stikes and bloodthirsty on the new evis?
Oh i get it
perfect strike is bad
even with crit
savage sweep is better
Would be funny if they realized this and rinda grabbed a gun and her brother grabbed a lil knife
What then
but new evi doesn't want any cleave blessings
Shoot anime bitch hit gun boy
ok gotcha
new evi wants rampage + shred or another non cleave blessing
if you're building a dedicated hard mode twins eviscerator
How good is the new evicirator?
Un the context of fighting the twins
you want bloodthirty to be able to start chaining crits to dump on elites/boss
Pretty good
its a chain weapon
Since their body is flak
I promise, it will outshine other setups for that fight
And head is cara like that of thee mauler
Both are good.
Lol
did twice back to back with randoms on normal mode
For example
then turn and nuke the dude
I got Karnak damnation first try
Say I and okri are fighting the twins
💀
You can kill the bosses one at a time
give me ur luck
I force the woman to go for me because okri is scared of woman
my teams dont do that
you don't have to evenly dps them
you can break the shooter dude twin shield down then focus the sister
i guess the range one is best to focus?
yes
focus the ranged one cause once he is dead, the sister is just tank and spank, block, dodge, and kill
gang up on em like its your average JJK "fight"
side eyes you
the bosses only poof and do the gas event twice
on the third reappear you can kill off the first one then 100-0 the other
if you're gonna chain weapon for it, just chaxe it
another keeper knife
eviscerator with bloodthirsty rev it up flak and carapace
new chainaxe with headtaker and thrust elite and carapace
you're already over damage on flak
and with thrust and headtaker the boss damage difference is largely academic
i mean thats the game?
If you want the Thammer equivalent for the twins use a Chaxe.
zealot bible thump can be used to get the entire team across the room with zero issues
if you have a psucker, have him drop a shield in the middle of the room for the person splitting sword lady off
so they can get toughness regen out of cohesion
also gives them a visual reference not to stray to far cuz sword lady dashes
veteran grenade regen paired with ogryn nuke grenade can completely change elite clear
I have the new chaxe but I'm much better with the ild evicirator
Thunder Hammers are dogshit for the twins fight
because they aren't unyielding
bring armor penetrating ranged weapons like the bolter and revolvers
to help get em off your mates
Rinda is easy to duel people just need to stop panicking and just actually give it a go lmao
It's like fighting a tiny fleshbag that can't grab you
bible thump is a must if you want to largely guarantee you win the fight with randos
also duelling her is fucking fun like, it's the only fun part of the whole fight
chastize can also help pulp bosses but you have to know the opportunity to use it
so start with bible thump corruption healing stun grenades, all of you
bwahaha is that what u call the pulse ability thing
pick both 5% movement speed pips
yea like "shield is down" and "ok time to chastise"
Oh man that was funny
momentum is a plus cuz you're running across the room a lot
a max mobility new chainaxe doesn't slow down when you rev it while sprinting
Rinda is easy to 1v1 as long as you know she's on you.
For our clear I was on Rinda duty while the other 3 were on Ronda + elites
and if you're full speed sprint when you charge a heavy you'll cover almost as much ground as if you weren't charging a heavy attack
basically just have a dedicated rinda fighter and it's a lot easier
Tbh I'd say the other way around
Were any mods broken by the last update?
3 of your team drag rinda around, one person on the ranged fucker and just have him on a kick loop
i mean that ideal
kick loop makes him pretty much worthless
sword lady is easiest for a shield tank to handle fwiw
I found rinda a lot more manageable 1v1
It's just hard to hit her when she's switching aggro all the time
but you all need to jump him once shield is down
her sword hits do next to no stamina damage
and you don't have to worry about mines at all
so if three people are on one side
just food for thought
and he is on the other side you wont do enough damage to him
ooo a new darktide mod loader update lol
And the gun dude is really quick to kill
So the plan was 3 people nuke ronda and then we all gang up on rinda after
and don't split the bosses across the room, stay in one of the four corners adjacent to each other
sword lady dashes
that can leave everyone in the dust
i'd prefer to kill gun dude first cause of the damn mines
people should pop mines if they actively aren't doing anything
mines can be sprinted through
I do this
clearing mines is something everyone should be doing
a lot
straight up, mines are only bad if they are compounded by another issue
you still kill him first
Especially as ogryn and zealot
and Die for the Emperor
yeah that's the other reason i wanted 3 on him
or Die Trying
it quite simple if everyone plays their role and when they get down time try to get rid of mines
yea I hate when we are trying to go through the gas phase and there is just a shit load of mines
When the gas phase is starting I always pop a few mines since you'd have time to do that very easily
i tanked three cause the guy in front ran through three before i had time to actually react
Do you walk into the circle to trigger mines then walk out?
i hit the edge then dodge back
dont try and do more than three at once
that or i walk through their edge if i'm trying to get past them
I basically play em like they're crusher or mauler overheads
That or i just chastise/bull rush through em
cringe
I just step in and out of the radius as I run past them
I'd shove incan into a mine
workable if you don't have a better one
i'd use it if purple rarity it isn't just dog shit
I don't like losing a dodge from dumping mobility too much
it don't matter much to me tbh
51 mobility or die
see i do have better (also theres my old one)
oof the perks on that orange one
hadron was not kind
thats the other thing the mobility is also terrible
I've run a lot of low dodge shit so like, losing a dodge from mobility doesn't change much for me
for me it's less losing a dodge
and more, if i have over 51 mobility i gain a dodge
just makes my life easier but not required
like twbs
got high 70s or 80... but no cleave at all
id rather get bad low stats because they are cheaper blessing fodder
high stats that are bad are just wasted potential keepers
i'd rather get higher stats since
na u lyin mate i only get randoms that wipe in 20secs to 3min
higher chance of t4

I'd rather get high bad stats than bad low stats because they sell for more ordo dockets
I don't roll either one
I only roll good stats
simply spend millions of ordo dockets for good bases
in the midst of selling i found this
It'll do for now 
hmm no flesh tearer lacerate 😔
Its on loner psyker so its okay
no it's never ok
it's never ok to not flesh tearer lacerate
"Post the gif, zealot chat!"
No fuck off

my works must be shown ice, they must be shown
better
chat i finally did it
i finally had good luck with brunt and hadron
we are so back
<3
thats good
so happy
part of why i had a shitty knife was bad luck tbqh
couldn’t roll a decent number until today
ok so haymaker can trigger on push attacks
FLES TEARER LACERATE
This any good?
Bring chaxe if you're making something specifically for that fight
Crucian Roulette good on autoguns?
Other than perfect stats yea pretty awful
if it had cara it might be better if i headshot than my chainsword
Chaxe will still do better and you have 3 rolls left before you even write that off
HAVE A HOLLY
JOLLY
SCREAMMAS
dont have the plasteel to roll it atm
only other thing i can think of is this
that was my first time getting dogged that game
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yes
I did stupid stuff most of the time
Elites works too
also why do i always get the games of all time on my hsword
anyways time to suffer due to only 5 build slots

the clutch aoe taunt to stop the charger and grab the whole rooms attention
then going into the next room and taunting all that too
and skedaddling back to the team once they've had the time to get themselves up cuz everything's trying to eat my spleen
Tanking.
Stupid.
half of that video tabbing around btw
there's a mod for that
bonk
Behold!
there is a single solitary fucking fruitfly that is making its life mission to either crawl inside my ear or land on my fucking eyeball
i should probably pick up that mod
the other ogryn's scream is just icing on the cake
I'm never throwing a nade when i hear a burster sound ever again
alright time to try out this new chainaxe
alright how should you be using chaxe mk12
I've decided I'm gonna change people I don't like's morning alarm to a steadily increasing burster intensity
it goes brr, and they go ahhhh
i see
lights for horde, heavies for elites
rev heavy if it's big enough
heavy attacks auto rev
light revs should kill everything but ogryn
heavies for the rest
alright
and don't sleep on the push stab, it's a one shot dispatch to smol and standard sized
it costs nothing to rev while sprinting
just need to figure out when to rev and what rev to use
and if you're full speed sprinting a heavy attack charging shuldn't slow you down much at all from full sprint speed
heavy attack auto rev will get you up to mutants and ragers
those take a weakspot light rev or heavy rev
gunners/shot might take more than a single heavy auto rev
dogs/snipers/tox/bombers/flamers all onetap on weakspot with even moderate damage blessings
worth mentioning i dont have thrust rn
you'll lose that vcard someday buddy
headtaker is the first 'best' thing to get
as it pairs with thrust and slaughter both
yeah i just have slaughterer/headtaker rn
thunderous pairs beautifully with thrust
my thrust 4 thunderous 4 can oneshot a crusher with a single push to apply 4 stacks before a heavy rev
going back to last night
i havent seen a decent vet in a minute on auric
what a real one
so when do you want to light rev?
chaxe can one shot crushers without thunderous, it's a very easy breakpoint to hit
quick dispatch of standard size cuz it should kill them in just a tick maybe two
(flexes big numbers)
sprinting to specials
to kill them as the group gets alerted
and to stun ragers and maulers and crushers out of their attacks
auto rev isn't a guaranteed stun
esp at high tiers
the other two zealots were also knife zealots but they kinda died constantly
stealth knife zealot is very lame
The lights are horde clear, they also have a good chunk of single target damage for some reason. They can 3-4 shot some elites. Heavies are low commitment big damage, and special revs are high commitment bigger damage. The weapon pairs really well with Thrust.
what those sweatlords look and sound like
yeah man, very cool, you sure did clutch the rescue with stealth didn't you
your stealth aggro dump is also the reason we all died
nothing like watching a loner zealot kite a poxwalker crowd for 1.5 minutes while they slowly bleed out
Thunderous is only for Carapace. It's worse than Headtaker for everything else. You can also hit the same BPs against Carapace so it's more for the base rev attacks spamming, smth like Thunderous/Headtaker on the Mk IV along with Punishment will ruin Crushers.
I can kill slugs in 4 heavy revs
almost exactly 25% health a hit
and I can psykanium kill a demon in twenty seconds or so
so bosses too is all I meant
but thrust is a bit of a high ask in combat
the range on your axe is shorter than you expect/want
and bosses like spawns can legitimately knock you out of range right as you're about to swing
like fucking clockwork
certain missions like mostly melee where half the mission is crushers and boss fights like assassination and the twins
works beautifully there
elsewhere headtaker and slaughter take the lead
decent enough? what should I replace?
I don't have exact numbers but 1 stack of Thrust outpaces Thunderous for non-Carapace enemies iirc
getting the swing to land is more important than bigger numbers
lol imagine getting that fuckin swing timing into your muscle memory for hectic combat
So is Crucian Roulette desirable on autogun, or skip this?
At the very least 2 stacks absolutely will, which matches up with the early thrust swing bug that Chaxe has rn
it's not alone, and those weapons still have it
I would hedge expectations as to its fix
there'sd really only one blatant action to force the 2 charge release, don't remember what it is but boy was I good at doing it without thinking when seconds mattered
thrust is not difficult to use in a fight
I'd change the perks
the axe, makes it difficult
because of its swing arc and overall reac h
it's very easy to get jostled out of range as you're releasing
Any recommendations? Feels like a good roll
I think Chaxe is the only weapon to have the issue afaik. It's a thing with revs and thrust. At the very least Thammer doesn't have it.
or have your aim sent to something you didn't want to hit
That is a very good roll yeah.
hey isnt this a person here
grenade gauntlet had it day one right up to pinpointing revamp
carapace and unyielding
unyielding and elite
depending on your crusher heaviest hit breakpoints
go see how much health a t5 crusher has after you give it the biggest boop you can
Yeah that tracks
Lots you can do, keep blessings the same. Perks are Flak + Elites/Maniac so you can probs just swap Crit Hit Damage to Flak and you'll be fine.
cuz elite still hits crushers 10%
if you're building for the twins fight
carapace flak
local priest revs chaxe with murderous intent
Ay zealots, how's the flamer doing now adays? Good, bad?
Good
thank
I held an impromptu ted talk about the current state of the flamer
and why all of you yes all of you are using it wrong
let me find the start
but it burns the poxwalkers nice and crispy
you also didn't know how it worked with chastise, or that you could chastise while firing it
thread begins
A light breeze could knock em over
wait, no, thread begins here maybe with explanations of each video, sorry
They should replace Shroudfield with an ability where you take a box of 30 ogrynheimer bombs and run forwards
Also I do not understand this logic. They are not mutually exclusive, you can have bigger numbers and land swings. Thunderous does nothing to improve your hit rate, neither does Thrust. The buff icon tells you exactly when you can release a swing too.
flamer macro when
why would you need a macro for flamer
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so you can spam primary fire without clicking rapidly
trick #2, wafting the cone back and forth and its difference in stack speed
okay but if i want to power move on the heretic and bathe them in a stream of fire?
What's new here? It's already been known you can move your flamer back and forth to spread more DoT with less ammo lol
nope, you hold rmb to brace
I didn't know that
and click left mouse rapidly
you will fire faster than the flamer can lose fuel
and in so doing score extra free blasts that al count as 1 stack
so would you still use blaze away?
crit on flamer does not provide an extra burn stack, unless that has changed recently
crit on purga staff does provide an extra burn stack, however
I don't prefer BA, it incentivizes wasting fuel
watch the wafting video to see the why of it in action
what would you use then
blaze away is wanted for killing elite packs, it's the pick
inspiring barrage is always a solid choice
overpressure if it's working correctly, idk
I feel like the value of BA would outweigh the ammo saved by spamming the button
and speedload on empty
in the video, are you using blaze away
Overpressure doesn't work
It does.
I thought the same thing but apparently i tested badly. It does apply an extra stack as long as you actually hold it till the next tick
#zealot-class message
i rarely have issues with flamer ammo
good question, lemme see if I have the inventory up in any of these video starts
not currently in game
interesting
I would be willing to try new tech if it deals more damage
found in shop?
that's pretty good
Ooo nice, buy it
grab it
that's great
pretty much BiS
not pretty much
since you can have 2 free slots
yee you can make a perfect toughness curio with that.
wtf that's perfect
oh good, I did use one intentionally with no damage affecting blessings or perks
and now ill never see one ever again
okay but what if blaze away tho
since crit counts equally for both holding down the trigger and wasting fuel or these other techniques I show you
would a blaze away one be worse off doing continuous stream
does blaze away affect raw power or damage increase specifically
cuz if it's weapon damage only burn stacks prolly don't benefit
I'm gonna try to pull it up but a long while ago I did a bit of research on +Crit chance on flamers and it's like, worthless
what even is the preferred curio meta?
and burn is the primary determinant for damage output, not damage
good point
3x toughness, or 2x toughness 1x hp
So is Crucian Roulette a good get, or should I skip it?
I ran crit solely because flamer crits lay double burn stacks
i got used to three hp
and also all my other flamers had experiment changing perks and blessings
Yeah that's what I'm talking about, it doesn't actually affect the damage that much
toughness regen curios affect both the rate at which you regenerate your bar
as well as lowering the delay time before it starts to fill
-5 toughness dmg reduction or this ?
This node is not good
yep that only fills once every what, ten seconds
Toughness regen is ok but like, being super aggressive can hinder the effectiveness of it. I remain having an open mind since Tyr said it was good so idk
and usually you only build maybe eight stacks in actual combat
move more
It can only trigger when you activate the buff. Basically on first swing, then every time off cooldown but you're already killing things and probably have full toughness anyway
he is wild
and uses a wound curio
like i have three 20% hp curios with 5% perks on all three
What does he use the wound curio for? It's sometimes nice with certain Maelstroms
350hp zealot
So, uh, what do I need to know about the twins? >.>
i have a tank build with max possible hp
376
150 toughness
4x wounds
it's pretty good
I saw them a little bit from the times they randomly spawned
I know about the gas bombs
drastically increases survivability...?
okay
we're so fucked
at full toughness
and why would more tougness be better than more hp?
i'm not beating the twins with pugs
you can soak one melee attack from almost everything
fuck this holy shit
with no damage to your health
toughness is far easier to replenish/abuse than hp
at less than 100% toughness, damage will bleed through proportionally to health
I am well aware.
It prevents damage from ranged enemies for longer periods of time and higher toughness amounts allow for reduced or no damage to health depending on how you play
For some reason , burn now goes through toughness?
toughness will 100% soak ranged damage until emp[ty
It's a negligable increase to damage, +Crit Chance gets overshadowed completely by other perks.

