wait, they havent fixed the infinite shroudfield bug yet? .... fatshark what are you doing
#zealot-class
small kernel
dark zealot
(even if you do chances are you will get smacked anyway)
ripe quest
It always has, who told you that?
untold carbon
The new chain axe has double overheads and it does amazing with thrust
karmic whale
I... Don't know I just thought it wouldn't for some reason 😂 😂
ripe quest
The 3 recommended blessings are Slaught/Headtaker/Thrust.
clear notch
carapace
hollow ember
what is the best weapon would u say for the ult every swing?
north sedge
i think you're mixing it up with how chastise affects chain weapons
dark zealot
funni axe
karmic whale
what is the best weapon would u say for the ult every swing?
Evis, combat sword, heavy sword
karmic whale
i think you're mixing it up with how chastise affects chain weapons
Ohhhh that could be
royal sierra
heyo zealots, recent convert here, which eviscerator is best and how should I build it?
sharp zodiac
Both are good
hollow ember
Evis, combat sword, heavy sword
ty
small kernel
heyo zealots, recent convert here, which eviscerator is best and how should I bu...
both are good but new one is more single target focused
untold carbon
One time I managed to get Rodin to a little under half health before the first gas phase
broken token
royal sierra
will the new one still cleave well enough?
solar gorge
heyo zealots, recent convert here, which eviscerator is best and how should I bu...
both are good but the new one's horde clear is literally just hitting m1
ripe quest
what is the best weapon would u say for the ult every swing?
It's probably best on Mk II Evis and Dclaw since Savage Sweep is gonna allow you to do it right off the bat. Hsword can do it but maybe not every swing.
karmic whale
Bloodletter is also p good on chain axe imo
small kernel
will the new one still cleave well enough?
4 enemy dmg hard cap
extra cleave wont let you dmg more then 4
ripe quest
Bloodletter is also p good on chain axe imo
It's not really.
hollow ember
It's probably best on Mk II Evis and Dclaw since Savage Sweep is gonna allow you...
i see, thank you
coarse birch
im not sure i get bloodletter on chaxe, you can just spec for enough damage you dont need bleed
small kernel
One time I managed to get Rodin to a little under half health before the first g...
i wish they didnt have single hit dmg cap 
my thammer is crying in the corner
clear notch
will the new one still cleave well enough?
the new one only has lights for the horizontals
light attacks on both evis has a 4 target cap
any enemy hit after in the same swing is just staggered
royal sierra
ballin thank ye, and blessings/perks?
karmic whale
im not sure i get bloodletter on chaxe, you can just spec for enough damage you ...
Yeah that's true, but bloodletter can take care of the last bit if it rolls weird to allow you to 'slow-mo one tap' problem enemies
small kernel
ballin thank ye, and blessings/perks?
shred can change if not crit build
sharp zodiac
Some like to go wrath or SS
tame python
How does momentum work
languid canyon
shred can change if not crit build
does the pen matter, i have one similar but like 69 pen
clear notch
ballin thank ye, and blessings/perks?
flak maniac
rampage savage sweep
new one needs rampage and doesn't have a meta second blessing, decide on shred or bloodthirsty
small kernel
does the pen matter, i have one similar but like 69 pen
ye, we want low mobility
tame python
Worth it keeping uptime of toughness higher
north sedge
chaxe does not have issues with one shotting stuff, if made right
ripe quest
Yeah that's true, but bloodletter can take care of the last bit if it rolls weir...
A problem with it is Chaxe is really good at hitting 1 shots on all elites, esp with the Mk XII. It would only be used against Crushers and bosses in which Crushers take like 40 damage per tick at max stacks and bosses don't quite need it.
languid canyon
bet
small kernel
does the pen matter, i have one similar but like 69 pen
with 63% pen i am losing like 5% dmg against cara
royal sierra
so this is a brick
small kernel
so this is a brick
pretty much
royal sierra
darn
karmic whale
Paperweight
ripe quest
so this is a brick
If you really want to use it swap Rev it Up to Shred and Weakspot to Flak and run a crit build ig.
small kernel
darn
if you are low on mats, can swap weakspot with flak and rev it up with rampage and use it
karmic whale
A problem with it is Chaxe is really good at hitting 1 shots on all elites, esp ...
Is this assuming heavies?
sharp zodiac
I'd say damage and pen are ye priority, shredder too if thy calling, mobility is no necessity
untold carbon
The chainaxe I’ve been using has flak and poxie/groaner damage, I’m going to do a quick Damnation match to get enough plasteel to change poxies to carapace for crushers, maulers and the twins
ripe quest
Is this assuming heavies?
Special revs yeah.
small kernel
I'd say damage and pen are ye priority, shredder too if thy calling, mobility is...
shredder is important
thats your way to oneshot crushers
:v
royal sierra
luv y'all for the info
sharp zodiac
That I was not too informed of, I just knew it was important
plucky gate
Idk having shredder a bit low doesn't seem to matter that much
karmic whale
So with bloodletter I can just Rev light anything that isn't a crusher and kill it with bleed before retaliation
Little less committal than heavy Rev I think
Hmmm
I'm not really disagreeing with you just outlining my experience
royal sierra
what are the thoughts on crusher btw?
ripe quest
If it's locked in that would be the goto. However I think even a light rev ruins elites with good perks and Slaught or Headtaker.
small kernel
what are the thoughts on crusher btw?
all-rounder, good in general against anything
plucky gate
Mine's at 59% and it's still oneshots crushers with chastise heavy rev
ripe quest
what are the thoughts on crusher btw?
Very versatile weapon. Hits hard and fast, good CC with the special.
small kernel
Mine's at 59% and it's still oneshots crushers with chastise heavy rev
ofc you can with chastise
i was mentioning oneshotting without chastise
karmic whale
Crusher is awesome. 2nd best all rounder weapon imo
elder rampart
I heard chainaxes were good again, can someone catch me up to speed on that? Like which is better at what, blessings, etc...
north sedge
personal pref
small kernel
@plucky gate chastise makes it so you count crushers as flak armor (not dmg wise so you still want cara perk), which lets you basically gain 80% dmg against them
karmic whale
Yeah I was gonna say new chaxe is better for single target cause of overhead heavies but I actually don't know if that's true
plucky gate
What setup are you using to oneshot crushers without chastise?
ripe quest
I heard chainaxes were good again, can someone catch me up to speed on that? Lik...
Mk IV is better for crowds. Can stunlock small elites with the lights. Mk XII has harder per hits and worse crowd clear. Blessings for both are Thrust/Slaughterer/Headtaker. I recommend Flak + Elites but the Mk IV likes Flak + Cara/Unyielding and the Mk XII likes Flak + Maniac.
small kernel
martyrdom regular stuff, with a crit from shred or if you want it guaranteed bloodthirsty
@clear notch had a video about
brave solstice
I've seen suggestions of taking Headtaker over Slaughterer, just wondering how much of a difference it will actually make. Thrust let's me one tap Crushers on Damnation
small kernel
killing 5-6 crushers in a row
or more i believe
each with single heavy
that was using bloodthirsty blessing to guaratee crit
karmic whale
I've seen suggestions of taking Headtaker over Slaughterer, just wondering how m...
Headtaker is just easier to keep up, no reason to swap
ripe quest
I've seen suggestions of taking Headtaker over Slaughterer, just wondering how m...
Thrust/Slaught is fine. Headtaker over Slaught is more personal preference, you can absolutely be aggressive enough to utilize it and it's a bit better for crowd damage.
brave solstice
Cheers, thanks folks
karmic whale
How is everyone else feeling about the new chainsword?
small kernel
or can you one shot them just normally?
actually doesnt even have
martyrdom stacks
couldnt find the multiple in a row one
might find after some more search a sec
elder rampart
Mk IV is better for crowds. Can stunlock small elites with the lights. Mk XII ha...
Which would you build for the twins? There's crowds and bosses
ripe quest
How is everyone else feeling about the new chainsword?
It's fun.
ripe quest
Which would you build for the twins? There's crowds and bosses
My ideal loadout is a Mk XII and a flamer for the Twins mission.
Used a Mk IV and a flamer since I didn't have a well build Mk XII yet.
karmic whale
I guess I was expecting more out of it? Maybe I have bad build/blessings
north sedge
either works
karmic whale
Is it supposed to be more horde clear?
open echo
got this from brunt, is the crit bouns to low or is it fine?
clear notch
<@138194307793289217> had a video about
open echo
got this from brunt, is the crit bouns to low or is it fine?
(its 16% out of 24% on most things)
clear notch
doesn't need any other buff other than bloodthirsty
the assured crit from bloodthirsty with +carapace damage one shots crushers
languid canyon
so whats the second blessing you would go for
open echo
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/118161475620...
holy shit
thats so nice
small kernel
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/118161475620...
oh ok it was the one i sent to him then
i though there was one that had
back to back crusher kills
small kernel
(its 16% out of 24% on most things)
just means you might miss a crit hit more often unless you ads for the while 3 sec duration of surgical
open echo
just means you might miss a crit hit more often unless you ads for the while 3 s...
its the hipfire revi
small kernel
oh, nvm
celest basin
what team comp. and strategy will be optimal for hard mode twins?
strange kestrel
what team comp. and strategy will be optimal for hard mode twins?
shout veteran chorus zealot taunt ogryn
open echo
oh wow this is fun
what does your evi look like?
plucky gate
Mine doesn't actually have bloodthirsty. I'm using the mod to edit my weapon stats in psykanium
open echo
ah
plucky gate
My actual evis looks like this
oak yacht
wow
open echo
My actual evis looks like this
nice
languid canyon
yall think dmg to specialists is ok on the evi, or just elite/flak/cara
open echo
My actual evis looks like this
this is my current one (hadron is a piece of shit)
small kernel
yall think dmg to specialists is ok on the evi, or just elite/flak/cara
flak + cara, you would usually want to kill specialists with ranged weapons
small kernel
this is my current one (hadron is a piece of shit)
i would recommend swapping maniac to cara
i doubt you need maniac for any breakpoints
open echo
i would recommend swapping maniac to cara
broke rn
small kernel
also momentum isnt the worst option, 2nd blessing option for mk15 evis all feels meh to me so
momentum can come in clutch
left torrent
this is my current one (hadron is a piece of shit)
twinsies lol jsut got this
open echo
momentum can come in clutch
kinda enjoying it
copper hawk
sharp zodiac
WAH
small kernel
they actually didnt fix it ...
this bug has been in the game since traitor part 1
open echo
this bug has been in the game since traitor part 1
yesterday was playing with 3 other zealots and we were all abusing this bug to try do twins on hard mode
the voiceline spam was so funny
small kernel
yesterday was playing with 3 other zealots and we were all abusing this bug to t...
its sad to see people abusing bugs to beat the new hardmode they released tho
plucky gate
hmm, i actually don't think my "low" shredder of 59% is actually affecting my damage that much. Setting it to 80% only gives me like 150 more damage when critting on a crusher
open echo
its sad to see people abusing bugs to beat the new hardmode they released tho
(we failed)
plucky gate
What's screwing me over is not having cara
open echo
with axe or knife you can even solo it
also if you mess up it can go badly
small kernel
ofc, thats how it should go ''normally'' you know?
ornate bone
Ayyye Darktide got my #2 game of the year
small kernel
as that hardmode is designed that way
ornate bone
open echo
ofc, thats how it should go ''normally'' you know?
i mean mess up the bug
small kernel
i mean mess up the bug
i know, thats what i also meant
open echo
i know, thats what i also meant
ah
open echo
hardmode twins is fun, but the only part the isn't to me is not being able to get people back after they die
small kernel
eh, its fine its made that way to enforce heavier teamplay
and not letting your team die
hence why its bad with randos
only actual reward from that is insignia and penance so
its completely okay for it to be extra extra hard
small kernel
i mean mess up the bug
also with my thammer setup, i can insta phase them with a single stealth so
abusing that bug would lead me to
clear it really fast
open echo
only actual reward from that is insignia and penance so
messing around with friends is also a reward
small kernel
but i wouldnt use that thammer setup without the bug against them as they have single hit dmg cap
45 secs stealth goes to waste, doing only like 12-20k actual dmg at most while i should be doing +40-60k
open echo
ig
small kernel
thats why rashad caxe is the best weapon for the twins bossfight
thats not the point we were talking about
it was the stealth bug
royal sierra
how's this? sorry if I am spamming questions I will do this again
small kernel
and i would still say chastise better with axe
lean lark
no
lean lark
how's this? ~~sorry if I am spamming questions I will do this again~~
good, skullcrusher to t4 and cara to t4 flak
small kernel
no
this was why i was mentioning
thammer being too broken against twins
if i were to abuse bugs
lean lark
its been in the game since talent trees were a thing
celest basin
welp... I'm too weak to beat twins on hard mode
lean lark
someone else mentioned that your stealth was refreshing and i said "huh let me go see if i can find the culprit" and found it in 20 seconds
because i originally thought it was just me desyncing
ebon granite
welp... I'm too weak to beat twins on hard mode
I dont feel like it's a one man kind of thing with the hard mode
celest basin
well, Im trying with my ogryn friend, but still
small kernel
ye need at ''least'' 3 people knowing what they are doing
ebon granite
You need the zealot just running around setting off trap
You need ogryn to like face tank rinda
open field
whats the bug?
small kernel
whats the bug?
watch the video, no cooldown stealth
open field
OH
ebon granite
Veteran force to take voice of command or just useless in general imo
open field
thats wild
ebon granite
Psyker sound great for trash mob with the flame burn/Shield against ronda
I still never know how does Rinda's Aggro system work
it doesn't fit the normal boss aggro where most damage = priority
open field
What is the best action to be running for hardmode? Usually I use Chastise but RN I am using Chorus
lean lark
watch the video, no cooldown stealth
preferably dont just tell people how to use it and abuse it
ebon granite
What is the best action to be running for hardmode? Usually I use Chastise but R...
Random?
lean lark
and just leave it be until it gets fixed
ebon granite
Better just use Chorus
Extra Toughness really come in handy when one of the boss is literally just giving you landmine that if you fail toughness check, you take bazillion corruption
open field
mhm
ebon granite
Chatise is great, but not against this 2 boss
open field
Yeah
ebon granite
Most of the randoms pub squad I run into, have the problem of just dealing with rager to begin
small kernel
preferably dont just tell people how to use it and abuse it
ye no i am not
ebon granite
Rinda and Ronda's Moveset isn't dangerous when you fight them enough
open field
🙏 I pray to the beneficent emperor that the twins fall in battle
ebon granite
Melee girl have 2 mode, rush (literally no damage) and stand circle aoe damage
open field
I have found the two axe weilding guys to be the biggest pain
dark zealot
finally
ebon granite
I have found the two axe weilding guys to be the biggest pain
Yep Mauler/Rager in general
It's not the boss that kill you
it's the mobs that spawn with the boss
open field
Rodin is such a pain to be agroed by when you are already getting ganked
stray cedar
dark zealot
my reward for beating normal damn
ebon granite
Im just praying that they're gonna incorporate red item soon like vermintide 2
strange kestrel
candid nest
What's the diff between Stagger and impact?
ebon granite
fuck these rng
dark zealot
crit damage...
royal vortex
What's the diff between Stagger and impact?
both the same stat
it's fs tooltip fuckery
at least in regards to these talents
impact is the impact value on your weapon, stagger refers to the stagger state an enemy is in
candid nest
Using a evic so figure...Stagger?
jagged aspen
am i dense or is there not a zealot equivalent of the ogrynomicon?
faint mountain
SOME TIMES THE GAME GIVES YOU THE GOOD SHIT
ashen quartz
zamn
faint mountain
PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION
sturdy cypress
PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION
north sedge
Change the crit dmg it is bad
dark zealot
got very close
almost killed him
then i died and everything fell apart
(well a trapper got me)
but nah stealth zealot works
clear notch
PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION
crit damage perk is small because of how the math works
switch it to flak
opal basin
Is bolter usable at higher lvls on zealot?
ornate bone
What are the best perks I should get for a thunder hammer if I want to do a backstab build
dark zealot
2nd run was bad
dark zealot
What are the best perks I should get for a thunder hammer if I want to do a back...
what are you trying to kill?
ornate bone
what are you trying to kill?
Your typical monstrosities like daemonhosts
dark zealot
Your typical monstrosities like daemonhosts
well those are unyielding mostly
lean lark
all monstrosities are unyielding only
ornate bone
I must know of a good blessing
lean lark
bosses like scab captain and twins are flak/cara/unarmoured
ornate bone
Mostly for the Mark II Thunder hammer
I know not the knowledge of what blessings I should anoint my holy Hammer with
ornate bone
Huzzah I already have slaughterer but I must seek out thrust
As for the perks I'm pretty good
Just need to get lucky with a good damage first Target roll
dark zealot
im going for a heavy evis
lean lark
your main stats are damage first target penetration
crowd control is also a very good one to have but digressable if you want to focus on big dmg numbers
burnt citrus
Guyz. What are the best weapons to get sick damage numbers in damnation? I usually rock a Rashad axe and revolver but i haven't played in at least a couple patches.
balmy oak
the new evis?
slate notch
Is it worth stacking gunners/snipers resistance?
verbal thunder
Shieldgyrn is amazing
ripe quest
Is it worth stacking gunners/snipers resistance?
Yeah.
ripe quest
Guyz. What are the best weapons to get sick damage numbers in damnation? I usual...
Rashad Caxe and Revolver are both still really good.
ornate bone
B i t c h hehehe
ripe quest
I guess you could do like, Martyr Deathblow Hsword for higher numbers but it doesn't really matter past a certain point.
nimble fiber
untold carbon
I like this thing
lunar fable
untold carbon
I like this thing
I just don’t get why I’m enjoying it so much
dense field
The prettiest brick I have
sharp zodiac
The finesse is quite the painer
That and the other stuff too
Tis close but Hadron deemed it "no"
dark zealot
sharp zodiac
That pen stat hurts it I'll be quite frank
dark zealot
nah its clearly still viable
spare talon
That pen stat hurts it I'll be quite frank
i heard the pen stat doesnt scale much from low to high though
on the mk15
sharp zodiac
Really?
Hm, alright then, guess ye got something viable then
Just better pray de Hadron dont mess it up
dark zealot
chain weapon
ive just been using my sword god roll
thank the big E
80%
my roll (38%)
13% and 8% diff
80%
32%
hmmm
north sedge
hit inspect
verbal thunder
You can get a better roll than that
Pen is very important
I wouldnt spend the plasteel on that one
waxen horizon
ur scared to blessing this ?
thorn sable
It’s true, pen is mighty
Some would even say pen is big
But this pen is small and that’s bad
verbal thunder
Yeah, doesnt have to be perfect, but that's extremely low
open bramble
holy shit. you know, hsword is braindead, but I just made a rashad and took it out for a spin, and this is some hodor shit
oak yacht
What's the difference between the marks of thunder hammer?
dense pollen
13% and 8% diff
the difference is relative, so the 80% one is more like 25% better on Flak and 33% better on Carapace
sharp zodiac
holy shit. you know, hsword is braindead, but I just made a rashad and took it ...
Fair and balanced clearly
faint marsh
finally found a decent knife
please brunt let me have a 380 again
i don’t actually wanna play chainsword i’m sorry
faint marsh
lmfao in what sense is it a bad knife?
strange kestrel
2 bad blessings and a bad perk
faint marsh
bleed stacks are like the most important thing you can run on knife zealot lol
celest basin
that knife is wet dream of every zealot year ago :D
faint marsh
okay explain it beyond calling it bad that’s what i asked you to do lol
ripe quest
Uncanny vastly increases damage output. Bleed blessings are just kinda eh, and they cap at 16 stacks so having both doesn't do anything much.
strange kestrel
because bleed doesnt matter youre hindering your own dps
?
ruthless backstab having 100% rending on backstab hit?
one shotting everything along with precognition?
faint marsh
ok no
ripe quest
They do ok Unyielding damage but you need rending to get use out of it against other stuff.
faint marsh
i’ll record this lol you’re so wrong
ashen prairie
think this thing can work?
marsh notch
think this thing can work?
thunderous to headtaker and crit hit dmg to flak or carapace whatever you want
faint marsh
rending is useless lmfao
strange kestrel
wow
marsh notch
woah now
ripe quest
think this thing can work?
hmm, your best bet is probs Crit Hit Damage to Flak and Bloodletter to Headtaker or Thrust.
strange kestrel
that is the worst take ive heard ever
marsh notch
why do you say it’s useless
strange kestrel
because shes clueless
faint marsh
rending is only a good thing if you don’t know how to block hit like i didn’t this morning
strange kestrel
im not arguing with somebody who doesnt know about the game
its ok to be a noob just dont act like u know stuff
ripe quest
rending is useless lmfao
It's a large damage increase to flak, maniac, unyielding, and carapace.
It also buffs your DoTs.
faint marsh
alright chief i asked why bleed stacks were bad still no answer
just getting told it’s bad and to use rending like lol
marsh notch
rending increases your damage to every prio target in the game
faint marsh
reasoning pls
marsh notch
except dogs
faint marsh
dmg increase is absolutely noticeable on hordeclesr
ripe quest
Here is the damage table for bleed. Should be up to date.
strange kestrel
horde clear is not a good foundation to base your argument about flesh tearer lacerate not sucking
dark zealot
you could think of it as as armor pen
strange kestrel
youre just using knife zealot wrong
if u build your knife to have good horde clear
marsh notch
the knife even if you build full bleed with T4 blessings is only at best mid at horde clear, it does it better than base knife but worse than other zealot weapons
dark zealot
you can partially ignore the reduction in damage against the armor types
true kindle
new evis goes WHIRRRRR (i'm caligula)
strange kestrel
knife is not good at horde clear first and foremost as a knife user its not your job to go around killing the trash mobs
ripe quest
Having 2x bleed blessings isn't great because you hit the 16 stack cap really fast. Having Uncanny + bleed blessing will vastly increase the damage you do and the damage bleed does if you're adamant on running bleed.
sharp zodiac
new evis goes WHIRRRRR (i'm caligula)
You are too good at the videogame
strange kestrel
yeah lol dont even gotta run the meta precog and ruthless backstab
even tho ruthless backstab is a must have on zealot
two bleed blessings let alone one is stupid
ripe quest
Ruthless and Uncanny are interchangeable on preference.
sharp zodiac
Agreed
open field
What counts as a backstab
strange kestrel
hindering dps and building your knife to make it do something its inherently not good at
ripe quest
Just here Ruthless doesn't do anything for bleed so Uncnany is better for it.
sharp zodiac
What counts as a backstab
Think of a Frenchman and his backstab window and that's the knife's
strange kestrel
yea but ruthless backstab precognition is still the way to go
sharp zodiac
Anything on the back
open field
Just a hit? not a kill
marsh notch
Anything on the back
anything? 😏
strange kestrel
doesnt have to kill
strange kestrel
any weapon type can backstab yes
yup
have you seen crucis thammer one shotting with backstab?
plucky shuttle
whats this pls?
no idea what it is
dark zealot
nah use the big knife
dense pollen
i would if hsword had Uncanny
plucky shuttle
its from special asignement
marsh notch
whats this pls?
no idea what it is
new mission insignia reward
strange kestrel
https://tenor.com/view/hammer-game-explode-gif-15267202
thammer gameplay
thorn imp
i would if hsword had Uncanny
thats rashad
plucky shuttle
new mission insignia reward
ok thx
how to use it?
thorn imp
also acceptable
ripe quest
ok thx
how to use it?
Equip it in the cosmetics menu
marsh notch
ok thx
how to use it?
cosmetics and then insignia
ripe quest
It's like, bottom right slot
marsh notch
it’s below your frame
dense pollen
rashad goated
plucky shuttle
ok thx
marsh notch
every time I find a new favourite weapon I get bored of it and move onto the next one
it’s been like this for a month now
strange kestrel
ive never gotten bored of rashad
shovel rashad and thammer are the only melees ive never gotten bored of
sharp zodiac
I've just stuck to the devil's claw and the eviscerator
strange kestrel
day 1 💪
dark zealot
so is this what to got for on the evis?
strange kestrel
thats good yeah
sharp zodiac
Every other weapon to me is either boring or something I don't use as much
oak yacht
wow i rly like the chainsword over the evisce
thorn imp
momentum bad
strange kestrel
me too
true kindle
so is this what to got for on the evis?
this is mine
strange kestrel
i use chainsword over eviscerator
true kindle
whether you prefer shred for dmg or momentum for sustain is up to personal preference/skill
celest basin
hard mode twins is beyond me... skissue AF :/
strange kestrel
free toughness especially with the xv eviscerator and its perfectly horizontals sweeps
strange kestrel
hard mode twins is beyond me... skissue AF :/
whats your build?
thorn imp
youre zealot
dark zealot
whether you prefer shred for dmg or momentum for sustain is up to personal prefe...
crit is more funni
strange kestrel
chorus is gonna make it easier
true kindle
I run chastise/judgement
strange kestrel
if you run stealth get off of it
true kindle
what's wasted about attack speed?
celest basin
whats your build?
for twins, beacon of purity, chorus, momentum. evi mk15
true kindle
this weapon is slowwwwww
dense pollen
no, the blessing, not the keystone
true kindle
oh right
strange kestrel
for twins, beacon of purity, chorus, momentum. evi mk15
oh youre chillin
just practice and youll get it
dense pollen
which i also mentally call Momentum but is not actually called Momentum
north sedge
On the new evisc its totally preference, rampage + whatever
thorn imp
momentum cringe, marty goated
dark zealot
is bloodletter a bad blessing then?
thorn imp
true kindle
momentum can compensate for lesser skill, greater skill can compensate for absence of momentum and then further optimize dmg output with something else
classic darktide
strange kestrel
momentum is easy and free dmg
true kindle
blessing
strange kestrel
oh
true kindle
yeah
strange kestrel
oops
dense pollen
Bloodletter just seems kinda bad bc things shouldn't survive getting sawed
strange kestrel
LMAO
dense pollen
lmao
true kindle
I love the momentum keystone
strange kestrel
i mean youre still right
true kindle
and use it all the time
dark zealot
Bloodletter just seems kinda bad bc things shouldn't survive getting sawed
true XD
strange kestrel
momentum blessing is easy to proc and its a good chunk of toughness that you regen
dense pollen
and you aren't sawing stuff that bleeds well usually
strange kestrel
yeah i had to force myself to stop using momentum and try other things
dense pollen
negligible boss damage too
true kindle
piety is good for some things but I just miss the att speed from judgement or marty keystones
strange kestrel
im currently having a lot of fun with marty swing speed chainsword
true kindle
so I run rampage/shred evis with judgement
dark zealot
so thrust headtaker?
dense pollen
oh wait, is this Chaxe
strange kestrel
bloodletter is like the flesh tearer of knife
dense pollen
either Headtaker+Slaughterer or Thunderous+Bloodletter
north sedge
No
dense pollen
strongly leaning towards double power
north sedge
Thrust headtaker or slaughterer
thorn imp
what hte fuck is thunderous bloodletter
what weapon is this
how is that an acceptalbe combo
dark zealot
what about my gun (this is what it has atm)
faint marsh
still takes out cara crushers in 6 seconds so idk guys. would uncanny make this even faster?
sorry for being so long i take forever to record stuff
thorn imp
still takes out cara crushers in 6 seconds so idk guys. would uncanny make this ...
Or you could press F with rashad and one shot it
north sedge
Yes, yes it would
dark zealot
still takes out cara crushers in 6 seconds so idk guys. would uncanny make this ...
thats too long, just backstab to the head
thorn imp
Also yes
dark zealot
i thought we was talking evis
we were
faint marsh
okay sweet. thank you for actually taking the time to explain and understand what you’re saying instead of being a meta chaser who acts like they came up with the idea to use knife
strange kestrel
she cant understand that precog ruthless backstab is just better
north sedge
I invented the idea of knife
strange kestrel
and thinks rending is useless :p
thorn imp
dont post the meme
dark zealot
with stealth you can one tap a crusher if you hit the back of the head/neck
strange kestrel
back of body even
dense pollen
i got thrown by this and thought Chaxe
north sedge
dont post the meme
strange kestrel
thorn imp
dark zealot
you get 20% back could get crit for cdr
faint marsh
with stealth you can one tap a crusher if you hit the back of the head/neck
i really find chorus is useful for buffing the team through tough spots though
you don’t always get good players lol
north sedge
Someone said thunderous bloodletter which would be chaxe no don't do that
faint marsh
tbh this is appealing though
dark zealot
then just kill the threats yourself
faint marsh
yeah i try to balance killing the threats with buffing team
celest basin
I love the momentum keystone
current talent tree pl0x? :D
faint marsh
that’s i guess why 6s is my cap for my build
unlesssssssssss
uncanny makes bleed stacks better
which it was explained would do a great job of that
time to return to my findom relationship with brunt ig
dark zealot
last question i guess... is this funni bonk?
north sedge
Bleed is a trap, only useful on shit like frag grenades and ogryn heavies since both are basically free aoe bleed
Replace trauma with skullcrusher
faint marsh
me if i didn’t have coherency regen as one of my main things
dark zealot
what about perks?
north sedge
The usual, flak maniac
thorn imp
flak maniac
olive raven
me if i didn’t have coherency regen as one of my main things
still horrifying seeing you actually run this
strange kestrel
LOL TRUE
faint marsh
still horrifying seeing you actually run this
i at least fixed my tree from the utter meme it used to be
yeah….. it used to be worse
strange kestrel
me if i didn’t have coherency regen as one of my main things
if you want team support benediction is the best aura
15% toughness dmg reduction is so good
violet hornet
i at least fixed my tree from the utter meme it used to be
looks pretty good now
faint marsh
thank you. yeah it was so embarassing before
celest basin
twins hardmode with randoms
dark zealot
strange kestrel
if youre running knife with that build theres no need for bleed blessings because piety plus scourge plus knife base crit chance is enough to proc bleed
mercy killer ruthless backstab
olive raven
i at least fixed my tree from the utter meme it used to be
if only the curios were fixed 😔
faint marsh
if only brunt would let me just get past these fuckng knife builds i can start to focus on them
dark zealot
honestly... i have no clue
dark zealot
then its perfect
faint marsh
until i can have better luck with brunt i will be stuck with these
misty charm
until i can have better luck with brunt i will be stuck with these
damn bro use the screenshot button lol
light holly
until i can have better luck with brunt i will be stuck with these
Toughness regen speed suuuucks
Get gunner res
faint marsh
damn bro use the screenshot button lol
no it takes too long
dark zealot
ngl id take it on veteran for the ultimate support
light holly
Like especially for zealot
misty charm
no it takes too long
shift+window+S
misty charm
oh lol
faint marsh
it’s so bad i know
truly is a mystery to me how people haven’t figured out how to tweak controller sensitivity and it makes me sad to use xbox
i am a controllercel though
trail grove
Hm...
trail grove
You know, I had this thought for some reason.
It's been recurring in my mind for a bit.
faint marsh
that is very close to my build, i basically tweaked what you sent to make knife compatible with it
trail grove
Power Dagger, anyone? Exclusively Zealot
naive linden
What should I change? besides elites to unyeilding?
dark zealot
so that?
naive linden
oh okay word
thorn imp
thunder to headtaker/sllaughterer
plucky shuttle
chorus more damage or toughness reduction?
thorn imp
damage if you really wanna run chorus buff
dark zealot
i wanted to go for the most tougness reduction possible
(hence the cdr so you can use it again if you get rekt)
thorn imp
That doesnt work like you think it does
its only hp damage
If you really wanna spam chorus you go crit
drowsy jackal
i run the damage to help just get past shit
the damage reduction doesn't do much because you still get your shit beat if you get hit a few times
steep hollow
chorus more damage or toughness reduction?
damage easily
dark zealot
anyway what curios would be best with that?
plucky shuttle
want to try tanky zealot
not sure if i will like the chorus but i wanna try
steep hollow
if you need the toughness reduction for you and your team after you already used a 7(?) second long stun ability, the run was already over
plucky shuttle
I dont like that long cooldwon
naive linden
is the hammer backstab 1shot build actually any good?
sage swan
what perks was it to put on a good good mk2a revolver? carapace and... maniac? flak?
ashen prairie
Huh, emps actually dropping something that I don't instantly bring to the cable mommy for a blessing
pastel marsh
Is there a general build guide about zealots like the other classes have?
like what blessings on what weapons are good?
etc
plucky shuttle
get either of the abilities that reduce your cd
found out I cannot fight when its in use
gonna use rush instead
sage swan
you could look at builds on gameslantern
steep hollow
if you could. it would be a little too strong
modest rampart
like what blessings on what weapons are good?
There is a recommended blessing/perks list for all zealot weapons in the pins to this chat. For feats, generally everything is good as long as you have Thy Wrath Be Swift. Some weapons are better for crit builds than others. Lotsa variety with zealot tree
north sedge
Theres a builds thread here and weapon blessings info in the pins
plucky shuttle
if you could. it would be a little too strong
true
lost trail
stupid question, does showstopper (20% chance for elites/specials to explode on death from the flamer) also work for soulblaze fire? because i've noticed im using my melee weapon and killing an enemy who's soulblazed and they exploded 
sage swan
TWBS isn't 100% necessary, I just use it with Hammer mostly
royal sierra
did the melkman deliver?
cerulean pike
what perks was it to put on a good good mk2a revolver? carapace and... maniac? f...
maniac flak. doesnt need carapace.
cerulean pike
did the melkman deliver?
milkman delivered spoiled milk
royal sierra
ah beans
cerulean pike
i unno what you thought of it other than the ok statline
sage swan
maniac flak. doesnt need carapace.
well it had Carapace3 and Infested2, and could only replace one
royal sierra
glory hunter isn't terrible, stats are good, maybe if cavalcade was worth it all it needs are new perks
cerulean pike
you know what glory hunter doesn't give you
more damage
sage swan
i just did elites%, so I dont have to pick one lol
cerulean pike
elites should probably work
sage swan
carapace is nice cause I rolled a pretty low Pen stat, but it should be more than serviceable
cerulean pike
As it has been told to me
think pen stat shouldn’t matter too much when you have 100% ADM, and the damage loss is very negligible
obviously having more is still better but
Eh
Always thought it was a straight damage multiplier since thats' what it looks like on the item stat
but i was wrong. think it just multiplies the base adm?
need exhil to figure this out for me cause im too lazy
sage swan
well, I can 2 shot a crusher, so I think that's a success
cerulean pike
yeah 100% adm does that to a revolver
gritty ingot
pen had been straight muliplier.. Don't know now though
tardy thicket
Another day, another shot in the heart by the armoury
please tell me the dump stat on this is cleave targets
hushed knoll
@lusty turtle soup owo
fading vale
As it has been told to me
think pen stat shouldn’t matter too much when you ha...
it's the base ADM values
hexed field
<@94406045148917760> soup owo
chicken noodle?
fading vale
I think it's taco soup
cerulean pike
ty laz
fading vale
I'm sure he is having ketchup with saltines on the side
fading vale
this doesn't do it for you?
ornate bone
sharp zodiac
this doesn't do it for you?
No this looks like the food you'd eat if you get paid bi weekly and just spent 75% of your money on a videogame bundle
naive linden
what is best caxe
proven merlin
anyone have thoughts on what to do with this axe?
fading vale
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4f4a0b-666d-4786-865a-6fcf8e0a48b4/fu...
need to rework the top
minor sage
idk where to put that last point though
there's not really such a thing as a tank in this game
fading vale
drop scourge and crit TDR
minor sage
you just have to take both damage and defensive nodes
naive linden
what is better caxe mk 2 or 5
agile pivot
anyone have thoughts on what to do with this axe?
Just leave jt as is
Taxe is completely terrible atm
naive linden
what makes mk 2 better? just more damage?
fading vale
more damage and attack speed
minor sage
anyone have thoughts on what to do with this axe?
the roll is actually quite good
coarse birch
Yeah it has finesse
coarse birch
I have a few well rolled taxes im sitting on till buff
fading vale
I think taxe 7 pattern is still bugged/wonky
coarse birch
Just stacking like attack speed and whatnot im guessing
minor sage
it's just that zealot and psyker have much better weapon options
hushed knoll
this is an assault on my person wtf stan
Wtf how it’s creamy chicken tortilla soup 
minor sage
than taxe
hushed knoll
this doesn't do it for you?
Why you gotta do me like that
minor sage
they're not bad at all they're just... out classed
fading vale
Why you gotta do me like that
fading vale
it's hard for caxe and taxe to exist in the same universe
minor sage
you take no damage
and run fast as fuck
and knife has uncanny
which is broken as fuck
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obi-wan-you-have-done-that-yourself-ewan-mcgreg...
You will pay for this
fading vale
You will pay for this
It's over Stanakin
ornate bone
need to rework the top
top?
coarse birch
Knife has 2 rending blessings although backstab is meh
fading vale
top?
top of the tree, don't run scourge and crit TDR, and you aren't getting a ton of value from bleed for the emperor
and drop crit CDR
this is not a crit build
and your curios are no bueno
especially combined with bleed for the emperor
and a lack of toughness
you don't have any toughness generators in that build
and your toughness is too low
combat ability regen and toughness regen perks are very low value
coarse birch
Also i would def swap to back stab cdr
light steppe
Just don't get hit, won't need to regen toughness then
fading vale
and I would recommend at least 2 toughness curios for a build like that, especially once you have generators
right now with that build all you are gonna do is eat a bunch of health damage
you can probably also get TWBS once you drop a couple things
untold carbon
@royal vortex lets fucking go baby
light steppe
I've never understood how 1 stam was worth it
coarse birch
1 +3 stamina is quite a bit of stam
light steppe
OK but like, how much tho? An extra 5 seconds of sprinting, an extra couple shoves?
minor sage
OK but like, how much tho? An extra 5 seconds of sprinting, an extra couple shov...
is pretty significant on psyker or vet
sage swan
not until we get a shield weapon, then I'm going +9 stam curios
minor sage
vet has ways to turn the stam into damage, via deadshot and stuff; psyker +3 stam makes you go from 2 stam to 5 stam
(with certain weapons)
native cargo
I'm slowly watching discord put exclamation points over random servers and I'm wondering when this one is gonna get hit lmao
minor sage
i think knife psyker has base 2 stam, and FS psyker has base 3 stam
so doubling your stam is pretty big deal
minor sage
I'm slowly watching discord put exclamation points over random servers and I'm w...
it may not affect it, depending on how their db are sharded and how they scaled the servers
minor sage
ded
zealous forum
native cargo
it may not affect it, depending on how their db are sharded and how they scaled ...
We are not making it outta 2023 alive
daring chasm
what are peoples gun opinions/how up to date is the weapon blessing guide in the pinned comments? I'm pretty happy with my melee set up, but i've mostly just been using the bolter because it's bad ass. thinking of trying out some more guns though
lethal quartz
which role does each of the Evi fulfil? Or how to best utilize each variant. Did some searching but I've seen opposite opinions here. (new good against horde, old monster damage and vice versa).
native cargo
Basically discord is having an issue and the server is disconnected from the wider discord server or something
native cargo
meaning its just not alive
minor sage
ye deded
coarse birch
other way around
minor sage
which role does each of the Evi fulfil? Or how to best utilize each variant. Did...
tldr; new evis is easier to use but target capped, old evis is harder to use but not target capped
native cargo
Must kill more. MUST PURGE
lethal quartz
tldr; new evis is easier to use but target capped, old evis is harder to use but...
target capped as in not effective against every enemy type? or do you mean hitmass?
sage swan
makes me wonder how people saw someone month 1 with the 1 million kills portrait border...
minor sage
target capped as in not effective against every enemy type? or do you mean hitma...
ok so do you understand how cleave works
sage swan
when you do a light swing, it only damages a max of 4 targets
it can stagger more than 4, based on cleave, but will only damage 4 no matter what
minor sage
let's say I have a weapon that does 50,30,15,15; what happens is that when you cleave it does that much damage in order of how many enemies are hit
native cargo
farming kills or just playing the game relentlessly for the fun of it
minor sage
if you hit 50 enemies because you have infinite cleave, all enemies besides the first couple take 15 damage since that is the tail-end of the cleave distribution
exotic portal
sage swan
tbh, I dont think it matters that badly, I can still kill 2 infested with every swing
minor sage
damage capped weapons have a cleave distribution that ends at 0
so all enemies beyond that 0 also take 0 damage
lethal quartz
ok so do you understand how cleave works
more or less, I know about hitmass but not the exact numbers
lethal quartz
so all enemies beyond that 0 also take 0 damage
I see, so old Evi it is
I've been using a crappy one while levelling anyway. Used the new mark just one round but didn't like the push attack.
plucky shuttle
Tigrus MK XV or MK II ?
lethal quartz
just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything that might be worth learning the different moveset, but if they're (almost) identical I won't bother. Thanks
hardy surge
any thoughts on Rashad vs Atrox?
gray ice
any thoughts on Rashad vs Atrox?
Combat axes or tac axes?
ember loom
Rashad was better than aatrox when it got buffed cuz it had finesse as a stat I think
And the lights were faster but I haven't played them since the new patches hit
gray ice
Think you guys mean the antax
ember loom
Yeah sry I meant antax
minor sage
any thoughts on Rashad vs Atrox?
caxe is more of a non-crit weapon, taxe is more of a crit weapon
gray ice
Rashad is typically considered better due to finesse stat
ember loom
Some ppl are on here say that Rashad is better these days
stray summit
Must kill more. MUST PURGE
THE PILE GROWS
ember loom
And I think one person said they found a build that works with tax axes
gray ice
I mean there's plenty of builds that work with tac axes, it's just not a great weapon currently
sharp zodiac
The claw will never flaw
rain blade
Does Pen matter if you are running 100% Rending?
jade kayak
is one revolver arguably better than the other or just pref?
gray ice
Old revolver is still kinda better, but new one is not useless or anything
New one is pretty fun, so I've been using it some
gray ice
I don't even think I'd go as far as to say its bad, it's just not as good.
You still get really good mileage out of it
heavy arch
crit dmg on evis15 is not useless ya goofs
you grab crit dmg or + elite for 15 evis to meet crusher BPs
vestal oyster
what do you guys think of the rogue trader zealot set?
gray ice
I'd like it more without the pegleg
hidden nacelle
comon the pegleg is the best part
forest schooner
so what's the standard martyrdom talent build?
delicate shadow
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4f4a0b-666d-4786-865a-6fcf8e0a48b4/fu...
kinda horrid lol
fallow moth
I like the zealot rouge trader set decided candles were for the poor, and just has a whole candelabra on their shoulder
fading vale
kinda horrid lol
I gave in depth suggestions and explanations earlier
clear notch
they're doing some heresy in open chat
idle coyote
how important is cloud radius for the flamer ?
vital grove
can anyone help with the Just a Flesh Wound penance?
clear notch
how important is cloud radius for the flamer ?
it decides the range and the width
still depot
Never really played with the braced AG. How do I craft this?
fading vale
Never really played with the braced AG. How do I craft this?
uh, it's already perfect except for upgrading tiers
olive raven
Never really played with the braced AG. How do I craft this?
Literal god roll
Upgrade death spitter and take your pick of perk, I’d recommend flak to max
fading vale
I would just leave it as is in case there are balance changes
olive raven
That’s also true
subtle cedar
Tbh i'd argue the ranged invuln on close ranged kill is potentially worth it over one of the other talents
fading vale
no
subtle cedar
Tho tbh i find i can also just use it to suppress everything and not get shot anyway
sour stirrup
fading vale
defense and mobility are always dump stats
sturdy hinge
It'd be real nice if i could not get Thunderous III for the (I counted) 12th time in a fucking row at level 30.
dense field
Some blessings are just built different
clear notch
ringing the hard mode bells is getting tedious
vestal oyster
also is there anything to the psyker's atheneum in terms of zealot guides?
pastel marsh
this looks pretty pog so far
craggy python
hey gang, does anyone want to do the twins hard mode?
pastel marsh
This looks pretty nice do far
merry comet
clear notch
This looks pretty nice do far
rolls so good bro sent it thrice
somber drift
compact nymph
Can anyone tell me how people are able to drop the stun grenades at their feet so quick?
It takes me a full 3-4 seconds of holding right mouse button and then left mouse button and then waiting another second for it to actually appear before I let go
but I'm watching streamers who are able to drop them in 1-2 seconds
I asked them and they said "idk"
violet hornet
Can anyone tell me how people are able to drop the stun grenades at their feet s...
right click to throw at feet
oh you are lol
violet hornet
I think you can immediately click left after starting to hold right to get it out as fast as possible
realistically I'm probably mashing it though
compact nymph
hrm, yeah immediately right then left clicking and holding both is quicker
I shall try in a mission, ty!
clear notch
hold right click right after selecting grenades and spam left click
or just aim down and spam left click
red spindle
what guns do y'all pair with thammer builds? i'm enjoying the revolver but i kind of think it's a bit boring at times and i'm looking to branch out
vocal pulsar
brauto
las pistol
thammer is a bit slow, so it's nice to pair it with something that's fast and/or has some hordeclear capability
lawbringer or kantrael shotgun
flamer
visual stream
what guns do y'all pair with thammer builds? i'm enjoying the revolver but i kin...
I do bolter because ranged feels like an accessory outside of necessity situations but I have been looking into a getting an mkV Columnus for brrr
Works well enough, especially for a quick sniper or bomber kill from across the map before swapping back
vocal pulsar
here's what a decent brauto looks like
indigo basin
i have 1 refine/rebless left. should i get warp flurry IV or replace one of the perks with a 25% bonus? (psyker chat is dead)
vocal pulsar
i have 1 refine/rebless left. should i get warp flurry IV or replace one of the ...
i'd do damage tbh. unarmored is not going to serve you very well at all on surge
visual stream
i have 1 refine/rebless left. should i get warp flurry IV or replace one of the ...
If I had to guess, 25% more damage on something that actually matters over unarmoured sounds a lot more beneficial than slightly less charge time
vocal pulsar
swap unarmored to maniac
indigo basin
yeah i was leaning that direction. just wanted a second opinion thanks guys!
vocal pulsar
yw
fleet zealot
i am descending into a wow player
i am doomed and lost
and discord iss fucking dead
tropic harbor
columnus IAG
Columnus? Isn’t that the gun who thinks Tertium is round?
red mesa
if you had 1 point, and had to choose between disdain or duelist (heavy sword) what do you take?
violet hornet
Ell was finally given chaxe buff and has lost all meaning and direction
red mesa
which is better for overall dmg? heavy sword is better at cleave than single target, so disdain seems good but duelist sort of synergizes with the flat heavies and deathblow right?
ornate bone
I'm scared of people with profile pictures where I can't see their shoulders
vocal pulsar
you should fear me anyway
native cargo
crit bonus is low but its the best I got. God emperor prevails????
hidden nacelle
Columnus? Isn’t that the gun who thinks Tertium is round?
oh you
pseudo valve
violently purging heretics while three vets stare at me from the other room saying 'go white zealot go'
exotic portal
Prob haymaker
exotic portal
What are the BIS blessings for the new knife?
Prob haymaker and lacerate
misty raven
which is the big bonk hammer
vast basin
Crucis has bigger bonk, ironhelm has horde control
misty raven
gonna finally try getting one
vast basin
Good luck, TH has like the most dead blessings of any weapon
small kernel
crit bonus is low but its the best I got. God emperor prevails????
this is the amount you get for 80%
do your math or inspect your weapon yourself
i am more worried about your low reload speed
misty raven
nice
exotic portal
misty raven
now I need plasteel
misty raven
damn. it'll do though. I'll keep it mind ty
small kernel
ye its definitely solid still
storm thorn
damn combat axe still got hands
small kernel
damn. it'll do though. I'll keep it mind ty
now watch it brick from upgrades
misty raven
now watch it brick from upgrades
as is tradition
storm thorn
antax is still worse than rashad right
violet hornet
It's not bad but rashad does outperform
storm thorn
word
unfortunate because this antax is a 380 but it's a good taste of what it'll be like once I get the super deluxe version
really the big thing is finally getting bm4
axe definitely feels like it goes from dogshit to top fragging
exotic portal
Broken chaos spawn throwing me places outside map
violet hornet
bm in general makes a huge difference yeah
exotic portal
through the floor
drowsy anchor
Broken chaos spawn throwing me places outside map
hey i got that just yesterday
exotic portal
hey i got that just yesterday
drowsy anchor
it seems like as long as if theres a ceiling, the chaos spawn throw wil put you into the floor above it lol