#zealot-class

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polar nexus
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Let's say infested will help you burn the horde

sour stirrup
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🥲 why Hadron never give blessing I need

ornate bone
robust bane
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Which knife is overall better for stealth zealot?

safe latch
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Thanks man, you've been really helpful 🙂

robust bane
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Since I really want strong backstabs on enemies

distant lagoon
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fuck knives

polar nexus
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3 is better for single target

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6 can deal better with multiple targets

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but as salty said you'll do better with a thammer

robust bane
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I've seen what my friend call pull of with the knives though as stealth zealot

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with the right build it seems pretty fun, plus tbh thunder hammer just doesn't seem as exciting (plus I'm running a newer character so I'm grinding my way to stealth zealot rather than playing my level 29 zealot)

native cargo
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If you get good at knives I'm sure it can be nice at what you want for it. I only know from what I've seen from others using it and it appears to be that you first have to make a pact with a demon so you don't get carpal tunnel in the first 24 hours of using a knife

frozen kernel
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Game ran like doodoo on my buddy's 3090 at launch, "it's darktide" doesn't mean much in the way of consistent performance lol

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Dare I ask...hows the new evi?

native cargo
plucky gate
frozen kernel
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Yeah my old laptop could barely run DT but the game was so much fun that I just dealt with it

plucky gate
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As a chainsword user transitioning to new evi, i gotta get used to how much it slows your movement down when you swing it though

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it feels like a proper heavy weapon.
The lights feel like heavy attacks

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lights are all long sweeps
heavies are all high damage downward strikes

native cargo
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Uhh Banx you know the executioner sword from VT? it's that from what I hear

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I've been addicted to the new chaxe to give the new evis an honest try

plucky gate
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It's nice

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every swing is slow as fuck but it still feels safe because of the wide arc and good stagger of the lights

native cargo
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Apparently you don't need savage sweep either cus of the cleave. Could push attack or just push in general if you mis time a swing

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Since it is a slower weapon

plucky gate
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yeah that's what i've been using it with

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even with the aspd from martyr and chastise, it still feels somewhat slow

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i'm too used to the fast weapons

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very strong though

spark ember
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Heavy attacks are way too slow windup

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At least thats my opinion

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But hey, average 85k+ boss dmg in aurics feels good xD

steep flame
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did they change the new evisc at all

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i feel like it buffers less compared to when it came out

spark ember
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Idk, i honesly switched to new evi only like a week ago xD

robust bane
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My friend probably got it from carrying a match vrs Karnak twins on damnation, we died a lot but we did well beyond that. I just was a shield ogryn but since then I was sold on stealth zealot.

distant lagoon
robust bane
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Wuh?

distant lagoon
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level 30 and all levels below that basically 2 different games

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balance of weapons is way different

robust bane
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Bro... I got every other class to level 30, I know damn well the weapons are kinda crud beforehand but I still wanna make a new character and do knife zealot.

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Don't need to get patronizing now.

balmy oak
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are the new bosses flak?

delicate horizon
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This is in melk's shop, never played crusher, is it worth picking?

ripe grove
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crusher is fun, stats look good

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still wouldn't buy from melk, unless its for a blessing

delicate horizon
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I don't know what blessings you run with it

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so I'm not sure if the ones that already have are decent enough

oak ermine
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You want Skullcrusher as a blessing, and any impact blessing you like - it doesn’t really matter

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And you also need 2 good perks. Horde enemies and Specials are probably not good perks

delicate horizon
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I see

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then I'll leave it there

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another more noobish question, what do you guys do with the weekly tokens, do you wait for a good weapon or something or just try to get as many blessings at 4

opaque hinge
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absolutely nothing 😛

delicate horizon
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hoarding

opaque hinge
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Use em to get T4 blessings

ripe grove
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haha similar to the above, when i do bother though its for t4 blessings

opaque hinge
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only good use unless you get luck y and get a god roll weapon

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Brunt is the true source of weapons

delicate horizon
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ok thanks, I'll do that from now on since I'm beggining to have a bunch of them

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yeah I know

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recently learned about it too

opaque hinge
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I started playing my ogryn and blew through 40k plasteel just getting blessings and weapons 😄

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fun fun

delicate horizon
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in any moment fatshark will give us more sources of plasteel

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I'm sure of it

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any moment now

opaque hinge
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I just want more ordos

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that is the real bottleneck

delicate horizon
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I'm still at the plasteel one, ordos just because you reroll weapon till It's max stats?

ripe grove
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gotta be pretty blessed for Brunt to give you a weapon w/ max stats

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Have burnt through 200k and have yet to find a good revolver for my veteran

fading vale
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200k is basically nothing

opaque hinge
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I don't upgrade weapons below 370 and don't upgrade those that don't tank the right stat 😄

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I have spent easy 7 mill so far trying to get a decent knife, it is not meant to be

delicate horizon
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you are going to ruin the inquisition

distant lagoon
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it sounded like you were new

distant lagoon
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otherwise you just sit in milky coins with nothing to spend them on

opaque hinge
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Brunt shouldn't have anything below 330 and Melk should be nothing but 370+ IMO

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Melk bucks are by far the least useful

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Especially when you have been playing a class for a while

ripe grove
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agreed, imo melk bucks should have been aquilas instead, and the acquisitions you can get from him should've been higher priced dockets

lofty fractal
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hey so i was wondering is there a better of the 2 hammers i could go with or does it not matter much?

ripe grove
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redundant currency

opaque hinge
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I would rather they only put amazing weapons and increase the prices by a factor of ten

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For Melk

ripe grove
opaque hinge
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20k Melk bucks for a god roll weapon seems reasonable

lofty fractal
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ohh okay thanks and by chance which of the 2 would suggest for a heavy attack build?

opaque hinge
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this is the highest item on melk at the mo, why the fuck does this have a t2 perk and blessing

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just total garbage

fresh talon
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Sometimes he just sells you trash and you gotta wait a while ass day

ripe grove
torn thicket
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Biggest flex I have 😔

opaque hinge
lofty fractal
jade kayak
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I see a lot of people running revolver over other guns alongside the new Evis. Is there a better benefit to the revolver over say the bolter or another complimentary weapon?

devout vault
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Boltgun takes like a year to draw on Zealot, which is why you dont see that particular thing very often, but Revo' is genereally popular, because esay to use, hits a lot of breakpoints and can pull it out on demand and dumpster something with it

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There are a lot of other viable choices, but Revo' ticks the most boxes for the least investment

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At least once you get past the horrendous crafting loop trying to get a good one

jade kayak
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What else is viable, just so I can look in inventory to hold myself over till i roll a good revolver?

robust bane
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Then again given the intelligence I've seen from my teammates on it well...

olive raven
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Revolver, shotguns, IAGs are go to zealot ranged

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Bolter is just

devout vault
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Agri' + Columnus IAGs, Graia + Agri' Braced, Agri' or Kantreal Shotguns MKIV or MK1a lasguns

olive raven
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Slow

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Flamer is used as well

devout vault
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Flamer is kinda bad in higher settings tho

lean lark
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no

devout vault
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Not having any meaningful range is a big kick in the teeth

robust bane
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Bolter's great, but it's kinda more a swift barrage of hits

lean lark
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flamer remains one of the best zealot ranged weapons

jade kayak
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'ranged'

devout vault
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In a pre-made sure, not if you're pugging

lean lark
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no

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works best in pubs

devout vault
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An even in a pre-made, i would rather take basically anything else

jade kayak
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Yeah, im learning quick as an ogryn main you have to be self reliant at most times.

lean lark
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if you have a weapon that's not that good at horde clear, flamer Is the best option

jade kayak
lean lark
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Flamer has good elite ttk and clear

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especially if you're running chastise/fury

torn thicket
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I used the flamer on relic zealot and just hoard cleared

jade kayak
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But crit cdr for Relic 😦

devout vault
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CDR skill really needs an ICD mechanic

lean lark
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it needs to be removed

jade kayak
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Why?

devout vault
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If it was only counted ont first crit of any swing, and had a 2.5s ICD, Piety wouldnt break it so hard and cooldowns would be a bit more of a thing, as it is, they're more of a suggestion than a mechanic

lean lark
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not gonna write an essay for this, but I'll just ask you:
Do you think that getting back an ability that has a 30s cooldown in one swing and being able to use it again to swing and get it back once more is a balanced idea?

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you might as well remove cooldowns altogether

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and nothing would change

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on other classes it feels kinda more balanced? To an extent

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zealots CDR is just stupid

devout vault
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Other classes are stronger than Zealot (again) at this point anyway, sadly

thick nacelle
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Guys, whats the best axe of the game ? ( plz don't tell me the saw-axe )

jade kayak
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Worship hard, get rewarded!

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lmao

devout vault
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Whole buncha nerfs gotta go through these next few patches

lean lark
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ogryn is the only class that I can safely say is stronger than zealot

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the others kind of just

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don't

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ogryn > zealot > vet > psyker is my ranking of strongest to weakest

devout vault
# lean lark not really

Zealot has DR and CDR, everything else about it is pretty balanced, Vet now does more melee damage more consistently than Zealot and has a great ranged tree, Psyker can play the game whilst being immune to damage for half of it because of crit strings, Ogg is Ogg and has DR, ranged damage and melee damage out the wazoo...

jade kayak
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As a whole package, mission to mission, I would disagree and say Psyker and Ogryn are better than Zealot.

devout vault
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I love Zealot, but other classes are just way stronger at the minute lmao

jade kayak
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Not in strength but completion.

torn thicket
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Depends on playstyle. Hard to find many great ogryn players so imma stand with zealots

lean lark
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vet does not deal more dmg than zealot at melee

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what are you getting that from

torn thicket
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torn thicket
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Huh????

devout vault
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Precision strikes effects melee and it has basically free attack speed buffs, and crits that apply brittleness and rending

lean lark
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gonna sound like a dip shit but I'm gonna need to see some evidence to back that outlandish claim

devout vault
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You can reach one shot breakpoint on bruiser cold with Rashad Axe, you need stacks of HT or Deci' to reach that on Zealot

lean lark
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so what

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that isn't a meaningful breakpoint

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at all

devout vault
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Cold, being the operative word here

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IE; with no buffs

torn thicket
devout vault
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With a fucking shit scooper no less

torn thicket
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So can zealot

lean lark
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zealot can oneshot/twoshot bosses with the Rashad

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can vet?

devout vault
torn thicket
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With greater survivability too

devout vault
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Zealot certainly has the survivability edge, but i already covered that

torn thicket
lean lark
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@devout vault

devout vault
ebon granite
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Are you guys really gonna let that veteran slide

devout vault
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That is some shit right there if you're claiming "two shot with Rashad"

jade kayak
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I don't think 1-2 shotting certain things to possibly fall to a fart is a fair measure of strength

torn thicket
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Those backstabs tho

lean lark
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you can see that I dealt 30k dmg in one hit

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and a plogryn has 60k health

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now if you do the math that's 2 hits in my books

ebon granite
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And overall, Melee wise, Zealot does more damage in general

torn thicket
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Vets can dish decent damage. But zealot excels in many other ways including damage

ebon granite
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until you start getting Plasma Gun

ebon granite
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Can't kill stuff if someone already Plasma them dead

devout vault
true kindle
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really? I definitely think plasma is up there

jade kayak
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@devout vault I dm'ed you like a dumb ass jagaloon if you didn't see it. Sorry

devout vault
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Its strong, but its dog vs boss

sharp zodiac
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Rat

eternal bolt
ebon granite
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Im a rat main, I don't care about what class is better

true kindle
ebon granite
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I just take my mini knife and run ahead like 600 meter and get one shot by chaos rat (trapper)

devout vault
ebon granite
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I dont know about you, but I feel like Veteran still suck even with proper builds compared to other class atm

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a lot of map just not designed for vet

jade kayak
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If we're talking bosses you need to break the shields on to this day, psy swords are the thing that do the most damage up front when the shield down. I could be wrong.

devout vault
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Like this is a single mag from Recon Lasgun, which takes near fuck all time to dump

ebon granite
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potential damage is high but it doesn't matter if something just stare at you a bit

jade kayak
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And maybe PHammer

frosty herald
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i dont believe this at all

eternal bolt
jade kayak
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Recon Las is formidable on Vet

devout vault
# frosty herald i dont believe this at all

Good for you, its reality, people are just incredibly stupid and if someone tells them something is bad, then they'll assume its bad an not even try to test it themselves

frank night
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plasma gun has naff dps

eternal bolt
frank night
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recon las takes I need to see outside meat grinder

eternal bolt
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i dont play recon im a plasmagun/revolver enjoyer

devout vault
frank night
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plasma gun on non-weakened bosses

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before I get ping replied five times

ebon granite
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jade kayak
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lmao im still stuck on the fact we call Plogryn/Spawn/Beasts bosses. draclulmao

ebon granite
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It's good potential damage afterall, I trust that statement

devout vault
ebon granite
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Not like x must be better than y

devout vault
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All you gotta do is be consistently accurate to leverage Marksman's, but people are still hung up on "oH bUt I nEeD tO sTaNd sTiLl!!!" (you dont)

ebon granite
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when you have good veteran tryhard with plasma gun and power cycle IV running around dishing a lot of damage

eternal bolt
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power swords are a crutch

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shovel enjoyers rise up

frank night
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yeah, but I could also take an IAG.

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but yeah the 'standy still oh no' part of the keystone is massively overblown

jade kayak
ebon granite
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not a vet main so I can't talk on behalf of that

jade kayak
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There is a reason they give it to the people who deserve it in lore!

ebon granite
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but my friend has been dishing more damage than me when they run power sword/plasma gun

frank night
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when any full auto gun caps stacks from briefly looking at some guys at head height

eternal bolt
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yea and a dude fresh outta prison DOES NOT deserve a power sword

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ruining my immersion

jade kayak
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lmao I know.

devout vault
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Sure, you could just take an IAG, but its skill floor is much lower, Recon is just one of those things that requires a bit more effort than others, which is a bit weird to have to say about a gun with no recoil, but hey, it is what it is

ebon granite
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Can't kill shit if everything just die

frank night
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the power sword can 2 shot crushers so for some reason roundfish went and made a weapon that can 1 shot crushers

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shobel fune

devout vault
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Powersword an TH both need a rework tbh

eternal bolt
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i wish there was a thunderhammer that did AoE damage on the activation

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idk if the new one does that i aint try that thing

ebon granite
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I think it's okay because I still feel vet's skill tree fuckin suck

eternal bolt
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looks ugly af

fading vale
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the hell needs a rework on hammer

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it's one of the best designed weapons

devout vault
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TH should have AoEs on regular attacks and keep the big ol' powered bonk for single targets, PSword, i dont even know what the fuck to do to fix that mess

frank night
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my biggest objection to the recon las is that it gets its knees randomly broken consistently enough that it's not worth going through the hadron plasteel olympics to make a gun that delivers less than my call of duty assault rifles

fading vale
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and psword is just broken strong

eternal bolt
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powersword shouldnt be in the game for random guardsmen that were in prison a day before

copper hawk
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If random gangsters in rogue trader can have a power hammrr

fading vale
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you could maybe give the hammer some kind of AOE action follow up for elite packs

copper hawk
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And a power maul

fading vale
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but other than that eh

copper hawk
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Then we can have powar wpnz

distant lagoon
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since it does not hold charge for more than several swings

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buoyant pecan
jade kayak
eternal bolt
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yea after 1 damnation mission any guardsman that survives should just become a space marine ngl

karmic sparrow
devout vault
buoyant pecan
fading vale
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I don't really agree with that

olive raven
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Yea lol wut

copper hawk
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T hammer workz fine in hordez naow

fading vale
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I can kill pretty much everything with a hammer

ebon granite
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Also is it me or Zealot Marytdom fuckin suck in the new boss fight

copper hawk
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U shouldve saw it prepatch

buoyant pecan
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We're practically part of Rannicks fucking Retinue

devout vault
fading vale
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but power creep on everything else makes it appear worse

olive raven
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You can stagger entire mixed hordes and can 1-2 tap trash 💀

ebon granite
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why stagger when you can kill with other weapon

copper hawk
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U do kill shit

olive raven
copper hawk
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It doesnt have a dam cap anymoar

buoyant pecan
copper hawk
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W slaught and thrust u wipe the floor w everythin

devout vault
copper hawk
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Uncludin hordes

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Rember that thrust stacks powar and not dmg

olive raven
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The hammer literally staggers one of the largest areas at a time 💀

fading vale
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I don't want every weapon to be as stupid as an hsword caxe psword illisi dueling sword etc

copper hawk
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So u can cleavr through entire mixed hordez

eternal bolt
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i just want 2 handed chain axe

devout vault
eternal bolt
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dont care bout anythin else

ebon granite
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Stagger
Yea imma just kill the hordes with attack speed buff and such

copper hawk
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Zame..

olive raven
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First swing, everything staggered. Second swing, half of what’s in front is dead.

copper hawk
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I wonder if he thinkz we're talkin about the p maul

buoyant pecan
ebon granite
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I dont know aobut you but I don't meet a lot of thunderhammer user

fading vale
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does it take a lot of effort to be good with hammer? sure, but it's one of the only rewarding weapons to use

jade kayak
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My wanted weapons are 2 hander power sword and melta. Thats it.

devout vault
fading vale
copper hawk
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He has 2 be baitin

devout vault
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Probably because someone told you it was bad, but hey ho

copper hawk
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We've been playin since like

buoyant pecan
copper hawk
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In most of our cases, the closed beta

devout vault
copper hawk
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The recon was gokd lost patch cuz of a bug w rending stacks

buoyant pecan
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Am I supposed to be impressed that you did this in the meat grinder?

eternal bolt
vocal pulsar
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Fuck you I WANTED to go to hard mode first try

copper hawk
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W it patched it's outclasses by the autoguns

vocal pulsar
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I wasn't draggged

devout vault
copper hawk
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I want a plasma listole

fading vale
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who cares about clips of vet damage on monstrosities, almost every gun in the hands of a vet deletes monstrosities

devout vault
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Its not a hard gun to make super strong if you're not braindead

buoyant pecan
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That's like saying I win arguments in general chat regularly

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Those guys are lobotomy victums

devout vault
# buoyant pecan Dude it's pubs

You have plasma gunner in your name, which is also tantamount to saying "i cant aim for shit" if you wanna go down that route 😉

neat hatch
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stealth bug abusers make the game so boring

eternal bolt
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theres a stealth bug?

fading vale
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new revolver can 1 mag monstrosities, does that make it a good gun? no

jade kayak
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Who gives a fuck if its in meat grinder or not? Even if it isn't thats still close to have the health gone if you account for missed head shots.

devout vault
jade kayak
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On top of the clip, the other players have it killed alongside the consistent dps.

fading vale
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it's like, extremely mid

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and relative to other guns it's bad

eternal bolt
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i dont like not being able to aim

buoyant pecan
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Ppl like gimmicks and bad guns

eternal bolt
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the brace should be special action

buoyant pecan
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I should know. I've been using plasma since beta xD

devout vault
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Been playing it on Psyker, with the ability to supplement the ammo usage issue, its good over there, but its sadly gonna be being compared to old revo', which is just utterly fucking busted KEKW_ogryn

eternal bolt
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imo just a shittier version of the existing revolver, but it is fun to say its high noon and then spraying

buoyant pecan
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Devs were of course trying to make a revolver that wasn't the same as the first.

ebon granite
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Speed reloader does help a lot now that the blessing is weird

buoyant pecan
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So they resorted to making it Fan hammer with no cleave

ebon granite
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Close kill = Faster reload speed

devout vault
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All it really needs is the ability to cleave like 5 hitmass

eternal bolt
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cant aim and deals less damage how is that not shittier lmao

devout vault
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An then its kinda sorted

ebon granite
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A lot of time I dont get any space to fully reload revolver in auric 5

edgy quail
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need to get those incredibly overpriced white pants, going for a kinda n corp inquisitor look with the armor

ebon granite
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just too much hordes + Special

buoyant pecan
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I still wanna know why Rannicks balling revolver has a ring at the end of the barrel that glows blue before he fires.

devout vault
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So at least then random poxies aint "get down mr presidenting" your shots

fading vale
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old revolver shoot 5 shots and kill everything on the screen

edgy quail
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dunno if theres a helmet to match

fading vale
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new revolver kill like 2 things

verbal dust
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This pretty decent?

ebon granite
edgy quail
devout vault
ebon granite
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Not enough breathing space in Auric 5

devout vault
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New one needs more cleave, old one needs its cleave reduced

eternal bolt
ebon granite
edgy quail
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in practice though i have found it deals with mutants way easier

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than the old one

fading vale
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yeah the old revolver needs a nerf for sure

edgy quail
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but in general it is a bit Lesser

drowsy anchor
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the playstyle is for the quick of hands

fading vale
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game needs a big balance pass

devout vault
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Yes, yes it fuckin does KEKW_ogryn

drowsy anchor
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i though they already nerf the old revolver

ebon granite
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Too much fuckin hordes + special make your 5 rounds goes too fast

ebon granite
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Now you do slightly worse against crusher

fading vale
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they "nerfed" it

devout vault
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People are gonna scream like a spoiled kid when his mum wont buy him sweets when the nerf wave happens, but it needs to

fading vale
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aka not an actual nerf

ebon granite
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But overall, it doesn't impact how you play revolver in auric 5 which is quickly snipe the special

drowsy anchor
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they can just buff the new revolver

ebon granite
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while your evis kill face tank hordes

coarse birch
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nah old revo is op

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it needs a nerf

fading vale
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I kill a billion elites and specials every time I bring revolver, it's not just for sniping specials occasionally

coarse birch
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rather than bringing stuff up to it

devout vault
fading vale
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you can 1 shot 2 ragers at a time

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3 shotgunners

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2 gunners

copper hawk
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Just as God intended

drowsy anchor
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they should add some cleave into the new revolver

devout vault
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Yeah, and reduce it on the old one

fading vale
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hell you don't even need crit to 1 shot flamers if you are close to them

hollow ember
eternal bolt
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what this game really needs is a disgraced commissar class that allows you to execute downed teamates for buffs

devout vault
copper hawk
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Auric missions are just Damnation and whatever the difficulty beneath Damnation is

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Same rewards, everything

hollow ember
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ah i see, ty

copper hawk
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However, you're guaranteed at least one hi5 shock mission

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In Auric

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And all Auric missions have like

frozen glen
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maowric meowssions :3

copper hawk
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Hi int at the bry least

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TWOO

ebon granite
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Im really confused whether people actually do Auric 5 to realize you dont get breathing room in general with revolver reload

copper hawk
#

Y i dont use remeowver

fading vale
#

I'm confused how people still struggle reloading guns

copper hawk
#

And use the brauto instead

sharp zodiac
#

I just prefer the kantreal instead at times

fading vale
#

literally just reload bullets when you can and slide dodge

#

non issue

ebon granite
#

Because you're the face tank?

frozen glen
#

sometimes i fumble reloads because my carpal tunnel makes me drop the bullets

ebon granite
#

Yea let me get this veteran to the front and he will power sword everything

copper hawk
#

Red fumblin thr bag

ebon granite
#

oops he die

fading vale
#

there are no roles

copper hawk
#

Typicale..

ebon granite
#

cuz the mauler look at him aggressively

copper hawk
frozen glen
#

flamer has no role.... flamer has no role.....

#

shivers

sharp zodiac
#

I should say the kantreal shotgun specifically because I just realized how little kantreal narrows it down

weak pecan
#

i have

#

its me

copper hawk
#

I dont like shotgunz

ebon granite
#

There is no roles so Psyker can just one shot everything fr

copper hawk
#

Cuz i played 2 much comp tf2 as a demomain

fading vale
#

everyone just kills everything, it's not some complex team game

copper hawk
#

And am tired of watchin numberz slowly go up

#

B4 i can have fun againe

sharp zodiac
#

Opinion

#

Tolerated

copper hawk
#

This is the parte where i squeal and showe u my demoman unusual collectione like it's my cherished shoe collectione

lavish flame
#

And those guys do wanna be in front

fading vale
#

yeah psword is ridiculous

lavish flame
#

Fuck psword

#

New shovel is absurd

#

Its a thunderhammer

ebon granite
#

People complain Psword and Shovel while Veteran just have extremely high skill floor with other weapon and can't even do shit

eternal bolt
#

new shovel revolver wep master goes stoopid

fading vale
#

Rashad

eternal bolt
#

devil claw, rashad, combat knife

lavish flame
#

Like the only "meh" vet melee weapons are the chains and the tacaxe

fading vale
#

chainsword is still good

lavish flame
#

For vet its meh cos they have too much good shit

copper hawk
#

Whatz the new shovel like

ebon granite
copper hawk
lavish flame
copper hawk
#

I nvr play vet

devout vault
lavish flame
fading vale
lavish flame
#

Havent tried that one yet

devout vault
#

Its worth giving a go, very strong weapon

olive raven
ebon granite
#

Why play veteran when you could be a guy that just dont die, a space magician, and a better vet larper

lavish flame
#

Vet shovel can also 1 tap crushers, but only one at a time.

devout vault
lavish flame
#

And the best precision ranged in the game?

oak ermine
devout vault
#

Should just have been straight up deleted, not even given a second chance

ebon granite
lavish flame
#

Vet's main thing is they are squisher than zealot and ogryn

copper hawk
#

Lazorr..

#

Im on my handz and kneez..

#

Pls..

eternal bolt
fading vale
#

vet is incredibly strong people are just bad at playing it

lavish flame
eternal bolt
#

fun > meta

copper hawk
#

Teache me diz crusher killin technique..

#

Im unable 2 adapt zo my vet loadoutz r all just exec stance

lavish flame
#

And my 8.5% tou regen on melee kill. And my 15% tou regen on headshot. And my 10+25% on elite kill

copper hawk
#

What's the meta build right mrow

fading vale
#

idk the setup but it's just new shovel with thrust and maybe carapace and perhaps some talents idk

copper hawk
#

I needz w copy it..

#

Talentz and alle..

frozen glen
#

cica u need crucnch and the bonus ogryn dmg + thrust 4, cara, and brutal momentum

fading vale
#

but you can also 1 shot 4 maulers at a time etc

copper hawk
#

Brutal meowmentum

lavish flame
#

And my toughness in a button ability on a 30s cooldown with 6s cdr on special kill.

And my 50% tdr at high tou

eternal bolt
lavish flame
#

Like vet has some of the best tou regen in the game atm. Maybe not as insane as ogryn. But its insane

eternal bolt
#

super good

ebon granite
#

Can't argue if all vet play like god with their build but they just don't

eternal bolt
#

well idk about good but i enjoy feeling like Kruber

ebon granite
#

just simply easier to play as ogryn gun larping

lavish flame
#

Vet has the issue of being the "easy" class sincr launch

fading vale
#

vet attracts the worst players that won't learn to melee and take terrible builds and try to play like an FPS

lavish flame
#

So a lot of people there got propped up by the class pre P13

devout vault
frozen glen
#

does any of this seem reminiscent of the creature that was banished

#

even the way they talk

#

or is it just ptsd

copper hawk
#

Ptsd

ebon granite
#

You did well with your build doesn't mean half the population of this game can replicate it

lavish flame
#

I mean vet having better melee than zealot is... interesting shall we say

#

Tbf zea has way way better survivability

#

So its not unbalanced

#

Its just well... vet has so much power in the melee that you dont expect it to have

eternal bolt
#

zealot is tanky plus dmg vet is just glass cannon if they go melee

little thicket
#

Zealot hasnt really ever dominated melee dps.

lavish flame
#

Vet isnt even glass tbh

ebon granite
#

Rarely, you could came across vet that run power sword that deal more damage than zealot

lavish flame
#

Its just not zealot brick levels

eternal bolt
#

idk my friend dies all the time playing melee vet

ebon granite
#

mostly, you came across vet that run power sword that keep going down

little thicket
#

Its either been vet or psyker outperforming zealot melee.

devout vault
little thicket
#

Ogryn also.

lavish flame
#

Its still amazing good

#

Just not braindead

versed turtle
#

Is perfectionist or Master Crafted better for a knife/thunder hammer stealot?

lavish flame
#

Like a thunderhammer. U cant just mindlessly spam it

ebon granite
eternal bolt
#

depends on how good you are, if you find that the baseline 3 seconds stealth isnt enough to get the attack off then getting more time is better

little thicket
#

The 300% damage illisi cucked zealot for most of the patches from having the highest melee damage

lavish flame
#

People used to the old brain off Special Heavy Heavy Heavy technique now suck on Psword

ebon granite
#

Shroudfield is just your team suck (or you want to play specific map)

copper hawk
#

I was a special light light light lsr

versed turtle
#

ty yall

lavish flame
copper hawk
ebon granite
#

Shroudfield in the new map is useful to just go hiding and rez people constantly

#

because your team gonna go down a lot

copper hawk
#

Hehe i have nothin in my brain

lavish flame
#

Yea the old meta was PS 3 Special HHH

#

Now its more complex

copper hawk
#

I just did lightz

lavish flame
#

Cos u actually have to... gasp block

copper hawk
#

Cuz im lzy

lavish flame
#

And push

#

And have melee fundamentals

copper hawk
#

Noh

#

Special light light light

sharp zodiac
#

Basically thy saying now ye should have a breein

#

Brian*

copper hawk
lavish flame
#

Its like special into block cancel into lights for chaff

ebon granite
lavish flame
#

Special into blocj cancel into push attack and light strikedown for elites

ebon granite
#

the audio sometime just gone

lavish flame
#

But it basically kills crushers about as fast as Thammers

ebon granite
#

Oh Imma get hit (Audio que didn't exist)

lavish flame
#

Without the vulnerability window

#

Main adv thammers have now over the crazy vet melee options frankly is boss damage

#

And even then well

#

Helbore bayo exists

#

Ok it no longer is as nutty as it was, but its still nutty

ebon granite
#

Helbore boss damage fuckin slap

#

not the best ttk but just a fuck lot of damage

lavish flame
#

Helbore bayo boss damage slaps

#

It used to have ttks similar to thammer

#

Now its a bit slower

jade kayak
#

Anyone got opinions if Martyrdom or Inexorable Judgement makes you tankier or if one is better over the other with the Tigrus Heavy?

steep flame
ebon granite
#

Martyrdom + Crit Tigrus right now is just too good

steep flame
ebon granite
#

Inexorable Judgement just not that great imo

jade kayak
#

Thats how I feel

ebon granite
#

You get so much shit from Martyrdom, Better Toughness Damage Reduction, better attack speed better attack damage

#

Blazing Piety on Perfect Blessing Tigrus is not required because you just crit a lot

jade kayak
#

Whats considered perfect to you cuz I see a mix of three blessings everyones using on it

ebon granite
#

I just fuck with Shred + Rampage

#

20% crit + 36% more damage

jade kayak
#

I think thats what im on atm

ebon granite
#

Martyrdom solve the underlying issue of Evis just being low attack speed (Compared to Heavy Sword)

#

go in, turn your brain off, block + heavy + heavy, go low toughness -> press F

#

the only thing that can kill meta zealot is just a bunch of gunner spawn

lavish flame
#

Zealot u mean

#

XD

#

Also fire

#

Fuck fire

sharp zodiac
#

Wouldn't recommend doing that

ebon granite
#

I dont find fire that much issue because you pull out le revolver

sharp zodiac
#

Kindred

ebon granite
#

one tap it in the head and goes back

lavish flame
#

Fire is mostly problematic when its spammed

#

Its ok if u have it under control

dense field
#

I don't find gunners a problem because they can't stun me

sharp zodiac
#

Twbs moment

lavish flame
#

But when u get a bullshit spawn with nlos bombers and just all the flamers with tight corners

ebon granite
lavish flame
#

Yeaaaaa

dense field
lavish flame
#

I s2g. Every time fatshark goes

"Reduced Elite count"

Gunner population doubles

dense field
#

There's not enough gunners to kill me

sharp zodiac
#

Not yet

weak pecan
#

do you guys like my zealot

dense field
#

Soon

sharp zodiac
#

I'll ask the AI to spawn 70

#

Just for yee

lavish flame
#

I once got a double gunner patrol

ebon granite
lavish flame
#

40 gunners

#

And not a single fking poxwalker in sight

ebon granite
#

The only problem I had as zealot is just gunner

#

a fuck lot of gunner spread across a long hallway

sharp zodiac
#

Lotta "DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR" I fear followed by the sounds reminiscent of an execution

lavish flame
lavish flame
ebon granite
surreal solstice
lavish flame
#

Fair

jade kayak
#

WARP BUSSY!? HERESY!

dense field
delicate needle
ebon granite
dense field
#

with caxe and 3 toughness curios

ebon granite
jade kayak
#

Youre hanging out with THAT psyker again arent you

weak pecan
ebon granite
#

You run heavy Evis with that?

dense field
#

It is certainly possible...

ebon granite
dense field
#

but i'd switch something up

ebon granite
#

I feel like it's good with knife but not really with Heavy Evis

dense field
#

maybe this

#

or chorus+martyrdom

weak pecan
#

now here is my real zealots

dense field
#

with stunstorm

faint marsh
sharp zodiac
faint marsh
#

we love a knightly priest

sharp zodiac
#

Like you're ready to be tied up and all

weak pecan
ebon granite
dense field
#

so at least 21k

ebon granite
#

You're a zealottttt

steep flame
#

just a wipeout fan

sterile schooner
#

the pen and shredder isn't too low is it?

drowsy anchor
#

well they could been higher

dense field
#

Too low for what?

sterile schooner
drowsy anchor
#

nah it should be serviceable

drowsy anchor
#

i dont see any zealot codex

dense field
sterile schooner
drowsy anchor
#

i prefer headtaker and slaughterer

#

bloodthirsty too

dense field
#

Stats are 100% fine for HT+slaughterer

drowsy anchor
steep flame
#

gimp mask

sharp zodiac
#

Exactly

drowsy anchor
#

suitable attire for suitable activities

sterile schooner
#

hmm i have headtaker 3 but no slaughter yet

#

melk pls

dense field
#

But bloodthirsty is questionable

drowsy anchor
#

why questionable

dense field
#

when you can just slap +60% power on it

#

on the axe I mean

drowsy anchor
#

hmm

#

well, you may not have 60% all the time

#

and as you are killing the crusher your 60% will decay

#

at most 30

dense field
#

Yeah thrust 3 is merely +45% power Guarded

drowsy anchor
#

so you hold heavy charge all the way ?

#

while facing, most definitely more than 1 crusher ?

dense field
#

You don't need to fully charge a heavy to get 3 stacks

jade kayak
drowsy anchor
#

how long do you have to hold ?

drowsy anchor
dense field
#

hmm

jade kayak
#

Thats a thing or mod?

dense field
#

Not too long

torn thicket
drowsy anchor
drowsy anchor
drowsy anchor
sharp zodiac
#

Nyhaheghegehgehgzgegehgeheghe

torn thicket
#

Thank you. I too have the gimp mask so I will do that

placid lily
drowsy anchor
#

really want money to buy the gimp mask with the hood in the store right now lol

#

but im not getting paid till feb

frosty herald
#

I think its divinity original sin 3

drowsy anchor
# dense field Not too long

idk how long do you think it is but if i had to hold it all the way, which i have to if i want 3 stacks, then im not really sure i can be safe

sharp zodiac
drowsy anchor
#

the fastest heavy i can do dont give me any thrust stack

frosty herald
#

Baldurs 3 isnt made yet

dense field
drowsy anchor
keen silo
#

is this worth building fellow zealots

drowsy anchor
keen silo
#

also where can i get curios?
all builds say i should get blessed bullet
no idea where to get it

drowsy anchor
#

well

sharp zodiac
#

Blessed bullet is just what the Curio is called, any Curio can have anything ye desire

drowsy anchor
#

you can buy curio from requisitory shop

sterile schooner
drowsy anchor
#

or curio acquired sometime after mission, emperor gift

#

or buy from melk

keen silo
#

right so any curio is fine
as long as it has the stats i want?

sharp zodiac
#

Yes

drowsy anchor
#

yeah as long as it has the stat you want

keen silo
#

nice

keen silo
#

turto sword+ stub revolver makes me struggle against armored stuff
cant really find a solution to it

#

idk how to change my playstyle

sharp zodiac
#

You'll learn it overtime, things like ye change and grow overtime

keen silo
#

but in that build my way out is to spam revolver im guessing?
since it has rending

sharp zodiac
#

Well I wouldn't say SPAM, with surgical you'll be giving yourself a lot higher Crit chance by aiming down sights for a short bit (up to 100%) rending and surgi are stupid strong

keen silo
#

Yep i meant only stub shots

sharp zodiac
#

Yeah, only thing I see a problem is bulwarks but ye can practice making them open up depending on what nade ye have

keen silo
#

That and the armored axe enemies

#

One with the welder helmets

sharp zodiac
#

Maulers

#

Very loud and angry fellows

#

If ye struggle to hit their head their body is a lot easier as unlike their helm their body is flak

keen silo
#

Right yea
Those two I struggle with cuz I'm often cornered and my teammates let me get gang piledstaregryn

#

Oh ye I did notice that

sharp zodiac
#

Ye never want to be in corners with em, they thrive off those if it's just you and multiple

balmy oak
#

how do people take down the shieldsreally quickly

drowsy anchor
#

what shield

sharp zodiac
#

Can confirm

I have 14 revolvers on each finger

#

One per finger I mean

drowsy anchor
#

i guess thats a lot of

#

guns

sharp zodiac
#

Solves every problem

#

Except pub teamates

#

Need more guns for that

devout vault
solar gorge
#

Average american

sharp zodiac
#

Nono I'm from the nation with the capital filled with assholes

#

I meant city staregryn

solar gorge
#

Any country ever ?

sharp zodiac
#

Baguette

devout vault
#

Ahhh my natural enemies... the french

keen silo
#

it literally says FR on their name

#

😭

solar gorge
#

it stands for "for real"

#

🤦‍♂️

keen silo
#

not in the warhammer universe

sharp zodiac
#

In which I am not

flat marsh
balmy oak
#

what weapons a re people using for the fight

flat marsh
#

I had a knife zealot, but I was a rending trauma psyker

#

Knife zealot was really useful to set off bombs

coarse birch
#

thammer would be good obv

#

havent run anything else yet

flat marsh
#

T hammer is meh until you break shield since shields have an innate max damage cap

balmy oak
#

yeah I tried hammer a few times andit's sort of hard

#

I tried crucis and there's just too many adds to get clear shots on elites

flat marsh
#

I think what weapon you run should depend on what else your team is doing

balmy oak
#

and pretty much always 0 toughness when aggroed

polar nexus
flat marsh
#

If you're trying to pub, just use an ironhelm or evis

worldly lagoon
balmy oak
#

what did you do with crusher

ebon granite
balmy oak
#

the weapon

#

were you just juggling the elites

pale plover
#

devils claw is nice for the hard mode

#

fury of the faithful and parry

drowsy anchor
#

its lag time for me

pale plover
#

parry gets crit and dmg whatever

drowsy anchor
#

no more Dt today 😔

pale plover
#

boioioing

worldly lagoon
worldly lagoon
balmy oak
#

does the special stagger the bosses

sharp zodiac
pale plover
#

does anyone know how the toxic gas buffs poxwalkers by how much

pale plover
balmy oak
#

were you running chorus

worldly lagoon
balmy oak
#

ok

polar nexus
balmy oak
#

link?

strong current
#

Found an old pic

#

Any guesses where was it?

balmy oak
#

that's just for the bells

polar nexus
#

Sorry it was on Reddit

balmy oak
#

ok

polar nexus
#

Looking for it

balmy oak
#

I'll have al ook later

keen silo
#

can weapons be used across classes?
or not?

sharp zodiac
#

No

#

But blessings can

#

Well,

#

If ye have a weapon for vet, ye can't use thee for zel

keen silo
#

gotcha

sharp zodiac
#

But if ye obtain thee blessing than thy can use the blessing for the zel

keen silo
#

we can only store 1 blessing at a time
and it gets used up right?
when we re bless

sharp zodiac
#

So long as it's the same weapon or a weapon in the mark

keen silo
#

as in 1 copy of headtaker

sharp zodiac
#

Yes, or it's other previous marks (if it has any)

keen silo
#

ohh right

sharp zodiac
#

And tip

#

If the weapon becomes locked ye can still grab the blessing to own

#

But ye can't replace it

north sedge
#

Once you unlock a blessing you have it available to apply forever

sharp zodiac
#

That too

faint marsh
#

blessings also transfer across characters like the rest of crafting

#

1 good thing fatshark has done with the whole system

keen silo
#

im confused
so we can re use blessings?

#

i got a handcannon earlier
so i can just apply handcannon on other revolvers?

#

as many as i want?

north sedge
#

Yes

sharp zodiac
#

Your brain is the ocean when it comes to it

#

Or is it the skies the limit..whatever doesn't matter

keen silo
#

yea literally overhwhelmed when i read those builds

#

im dumbing down whatever i can for my own sake lol

sharp zodiac
#

And that's perfectly fine

keen silo
#

now that im 30 and got a decent weapon and stuff
what should i work towards?

#

havent done auric missions cuz im scared lol

hollow ember
keen silo
#

yea i didnt touch it

north sedge
#

Play regular damnation if you're comfortable with it, upgrade whatever stuff you like

open echo
#

is cleave targets too low?

untold carbon
#

Waddup

ripe heron
#

Dump cleave targets

open echo
little urchin
languid canyon
#

worth? or pen too low?

torn thicket
torn thicket
lean lark
#

mk6 hsword is one of the best zealot melees altogether

#

mk9 hsword is also one of the best zealot melees and is the easiest to use

verbal dust
#

How’s this eh?

lean lark
#

falter to headhunter

#

but its bricked

#

deadly accurate + headhunter bis blessings

#

cara to maniac

opaque hinge
#

yeah no point shoot at carapace with that unless you F'd

little urchin
lusty turtle
#

old screenshot, hc is 60% now

#

smh GatorSMHHD

little urchin
#

Still pops

jagged aspen
#

i dont understand why you would use the combat blade

#

hits as hard as a paper towel

wind epoch
#

What blessings do you have

jagged aspen
#

not sure

#

anyway i doubt blessings could make it better than other weapons with blessings

north sedge
#

It's a mid weapon that you have to sweat your ass off with to do alright

drowsy anchor
#

how do you guys build the new revolver

wet cipher
dense field
#

Define very good

wet cipher
#

fun, niche combat, mobile, able to deal with many situations

#

great at elite hunting

#

not great at horde clearing

light dust
#

very cool knife flips

#

fast

wet cipher
#

also yeah knife flips

#

and you're a zoomy zealot

light dust
#

Very fun to play I general

desert coral
#

What should I turn this into fellas? Ill be back in a little bit to read any responses.

faint marsh
#

i don’t prefer that knife

#

the heavy isn’t my fav

wet cipher
#

I havent used Mk 6 yet, but +2 stam should probably be swapped with dmg of some type

faint marsh
#

i would stack lacerate and flesh tearer blessings onto it though

light dust
#

the new “horde clearer” knife if my favorite weapon on zealot in my opinion

wet cipher
#

does it deal with crushers well?

#

and other armored enemies

light dust
#

well

faint marsh
#

i use mk3

wet cipher
#

mk 3 is delightful

light dust
#

If you use stealth with the knife

#

You can either one shot it

#

Or get it to under half

wet cipher
#

one shot?

#

a crusher?

light dust
#

but you can one shot literally everything else

#

wait the big guys or the ones with the chainsaw axes

wet cipher
#

the big guys

light dust
#

Oh

wet cipher
#

ogryns

#

with concrete hammers

light dust
#

You can get them like half easily but since your in a team if you half them they’ll be dead in a second

dense field
keen silo
#

whats a good ranged wep besides stub revolver?
with a lot of ammo

dense field
#

Oh wait, that's a new one

north sedge
dense field
#

hmm haymaker could be good on it then

frozen glen
#

holy shit dough updated it for the mk 6

#

the flesh tearer lacerate sequel

north sedge
#

I didn't actually

faint marsh
#

damnation meat grinder btw

keen silo
#

which blessing is worth taking?

spark raven
#

Which one is better?

faint marsh
#

my knife isn’t the best because hadron cucked me out of the crit chance refinement

wet cipher
faint marsh
#

but it still performs

light dust
#

yea

keen silo
light dust
#

If you use the stealth

faint marsh
# faint marsh

i always find doing this so satisfying when there’s like 7-8 of them in auric

light dust
#

Move you probably could one shot it

keen silo
north sedge
#

Agrippina braced auto

keen silo
#

ohh

#

thanks

wet cipher
#

agrippinaa braced is more for hordeclear, yeah?

#

close range

keen silo
#

feels like it

#

doesnt have a scope

#

i mean scope-view

wet cipher
#

Columnus Mk2 with right blessings is fantastic at mid range

wet cipher
#

err wait is it mk 5?

dense field
ornate bone
wet cipher
keen silo
faint marsh
sharp zodiac
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Meowbow

wet cipher
ornate bone
faint marsh
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every time i finish a match i keep getting ripped off by brunt first

keen silo
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wanted to use this since i like its feedback
wonder if its worth
this specific gun

faint marsh
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just two assholes running the shops

untold carbon
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I kinda want to get into the brauto now for some reason, which one is considered the best?

wet cipher
ornate bone
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I have to many ordos

faint marsh
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it’s genuinely not fair i can spend like 500k and only get 2 weapons with enough stats and then hadron fucks them up

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i hate her

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i’m going to arson her shop

misty raven
faint marsh
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tbh i wouldn’t run that

desert coral
misty raven
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It isn't "brutally low" it could just be better if he lucks out with brunt

ornate bone
faint marsh
wet cipher
faint marsh
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you want like 75+ at least lol damage is not a sink stat on that gun

misty raven
faint marsh
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i run a super memey build LOL

wet cipher
keen silo
dense field
wet cipher
dense field
dense field
misty raven
# faint marsh 66 is brutally low lol

Have you ever actually looked at the stats for some guns and seen what the actual difference the numbers make. A 12% dmg columnus iag isn't a super soaker vs a 80% dmg one

faint marsh