#zealot-class
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🥲 why Hadron never give blessing I need
Call her mommy Hadron and always remember to pray to the Omnissiah first
Which knife is overall better for stealth zealot?
Thanks man, you've been really helpful 🙂
Since I really want strong backstabs on enemies
t-hammer
fuck knives
3 is better for single target
6 can deal better with multiple targets
but as salty said you'll do better with a thammer
I've seen what my friend call pull of with the knives though as stealth zealot
with the right build it seems pretty fun, plus tbh thunder hammer just doesn't seem as exciting (plus I'm running a newer character so I'm grinding my way to stealth zealot rather than playing my level 29 zealot)
If you get good at knives I'm sure it can be nice at what you want for it. I only know from what I've seen from others using it and it appears to be that you first have to make a pact with a demon so you don't get carpal tunnel in the first 24 hours of using a knife
Game ran like doodoo on my buddy's 3090 at launch, "it's darktide" doesn't mean much in the way of consistent performance lol
Dare I ask...hows the new evi?
I really enjoy the game so it does suck when a stutter happens and I get hit by a mauler v.v
I'll just play through it ig
i like it
Yeah my old laptop could barely run DT but the game was so much fun that I just dealt with it
As a chainsword user transitioning to new evi, i gotta get used to how much it slows your movement down when you swing it though
it feels like a proper heavy weapon.
The lights feel like heavy attacks
lights are all long sweeps
heavies are all high damage downward strikes
Uhh Banx you know the executioner sword from VT? it's that from what I hear
I've been addicted to the new chaxe to give the new evis an honest try
It's nice
every swing is slow as fuck but it still feels safe because of the wide arc and good stagger of the lights
Apparently you don't need savage sweep either cus of the cleave. Could push attack or just push in general if you mis time a swing
Since it is a slower weapon
Its a beast in martyr
yeah that's what i've been using it with
even with the aspd from martyr and chastise, it still feels somewhat slow
i'm too used to the fast weapons
very strong though
Heavy attacks are way too slow windup
At least thats my opinion
But hey, average 85k+ boss dmg in aurics feels good xD
did they change the new evisc at all
i feel like it buffers less compared to when it came out
Idk, i honesly switched to new evi only like a week ago xD
based
My friend probably got it from carrying a match vrs Karnak twins on damnation, we died a lot but we did well beyond that. I just was a shield ogryn but since then I was sold on stealth zealot.
So you have not even seen real game, but already make new character of the same class?
Wuh?
level 30 and all levels below that basically 2 different games
balance of weapons is way different
Bro... I got every other class to level 30, I know damn well the weapons are kinda crud beforehand but I still wanna make a new character and do knife zealot.
Don't need to get patronizing now.
are the new bosses flak?
This is in melk's shop, never played crusher, is it worth picking?
crusher is fun, stats look good
still wouldn't buy from melk, unless its for a blessing
I don't know what blessings you run with it
so I'm not sure if the ones that already have are decent enough
It’s good modifiers, but at least 3 things would need to be changed to make it good, so, not really
You want Skullcrusher as a blessing, and any impact blessing you like - it doesn’t really matter
And you also need 2 good perks. Horde enemies and Specials are probably not good perks
I see
then I'll leave it there
another more noobish question, what do you guys do with the weekly tokens, do you wait for a good weapon or something or just try to get as many blessings at 4
absolutely nothing 😛
Use em to get T4 blessings
haha similar to the above, when i do bother though its for t4 blessings
only good use unless you get luck y and get a god roll weapon
Brunt is the true source of weapons
ok thanks, I'll do that from now on since I'm beggining to have a bunch of them
yeah I know
recently learned about it too
I started playing my ogryn and blew through 40k plasteel just getting blessings and weapons 😄
fun fun
in any moment fatshark will give us more sources of plasteel
I'm sure of it
any moment now
I'm still at the plasteel one, ordos just because you reroll weapon till It's max stats?
gotta be pretty blessed for Brunt to give you a weapon w/ max stats
Have burnt through 200k and have yet to find a good revolver for my veteran
200k is basically nothing
I don't upgrade weapons below 370 and don't upgrade those that don't tank the right stat 😄
I have spent easy 7 mill so far trying to get a decent knife, it is not meant to be
💀
you are going to ruin the inquisition
how were i to guess you had others
it sounded like you were new
melk has so much crap at this point i buy from him even remotely decent things
otherwise you just sit in milky coins with nothing to spend them on
Brunt shouldn't have anything below 330 and Melk should be nothing but 370+ IMO
Melk bucks are by far the least useful
Especially when you have been playing a class for a while
agreed, imo melk bucks should have been aquilas instead, and the acquisitions you can get from him should've been higher priced dockets
hey so i was wondering is there a better of the 2 hammers i could go with or does it not matter much?
redundant currency
I would rather they only put amazing weapons and increase the prices by a factor of ten
For Melk
the crucis leans more toward single target dmg and the ironhelm leans more towards crowd control
20k Melk bucks for a god roll weapon seems reasonable
ohh okay thanks and by chance which of the 2 would suggest for a heavy attack build?
this is the highest item on melk at the mo, why the fuck does this have a t2 perk and blessing
just total garbage
Sometimes he just sells you trash and you gotta wait a while ass day
personally i'd go with the crucis, its heavy moveset is just two wide swing attacks
Biggest flex I have 😔
I haven't ever bought a weapon from him to use
okay thanks may need to look into that
I see a lot of people running revolver over other guns alongside the new Evis. Is there a better benefit to the revolver over say the bolter or another complimentary weapon?
Boltgun takes like a year to draw on Zealot, which is why you dont see that particular thing very often, but Revo' is genereally popular, because esay to use, hits a lot of breakpoints and can pull it out on demand and dumpster something with it
There are a lot of other viable choices, but Revo' ticks the most boxes for the least investment
At least once you get past the horrendous crafting loop trying to get a good one
What else is viable, just so I can look in inventory to hold myself over till i roll a good revolver?
Playing shield Ogryn on Damnation... yeah that's new 100%
Then again given the intelligence I've seen from my teammates on it well...
Agri' + Columnus IAGs, Graia + Agri' Braced, Agri' or Kantreal Shotguns MKIV or MK1a lasguns
Flamer is kinda bad in higher settings tho
no
Not having any meaningful range is a big kick in the teeth
Bolter's great, but it's kinda more a swift barrage of hits
flamer remains one of the best zealot ranged weapons
'ranged'
In a pre-made sure, not if you're pugging
An even in a pre-made, i would rather take basically anything else
Yeah, im learning quick as an ogryn main you have to be self reliant at most times.
if you have a weapon that's not that good at horde clear, flamer Is the best option
I don't disagree, but the topic was what compliments new Evis which is very good horde clear.
I used the flamer on relic zealot and just hoard cleared
But crit cdr for Relic 😦
CDR skill really needs an ICD mechanic
it needs to be removed
Why?
If it was only counted ont first crit of any swing, and had a 2.5s ICD, Piety wouldnt break it so hard and cooldowns would be a bit more of a thing, as it is, they're more of a suggestion than a mechanic
not gonna write an essay for this, but I'll just ask you:
Do you think that getting back an ability that has a 30s cooldown in one swing and being able to use it again to swing and get it back once more is a balanced idea?
you might as well remove cooldowns altogether
and nothing would change
on other classes it feels kinda more balanced? To an extent
zealots CDR is just stupid
Other classes are stronger than Zealot (again) at this point anyway, sadly
Guys, whats the best axe of the game ? ( plz don't tell me the saw-axe )
Whole buncha nerfs gotta go through these next few patches
not really
Rashad combat axe
ogryn is the only class that I can safely say is stronger than zealot
the others kind of just
don't
ogryn > zealot > vet > psyker is my ranking of strongest to weakest
Zealot has DR and CDR, everything else about it is pretty balanced, Vet now does more melee damage more consistently than Zealot and has a great ranged tree, Psyker can play the game whilst being immune to damage for half of it because of crit strings, Ogg is Ogg and has DR, ranged damage and melee damage out the wazoo...
As a whole package, mission to mission, I would disagree and say Psyker and Ogryn are better than Zealot.
I love Zealot, but other classes are just way stronger at the minute lmao
Not in strength but completion.
Depends on playstyle. Hard to find many great ogryn players so imma stand with zealots
Meh. I still think zealot is pretty damn strong
It really does
Huh????
Precision strikes effects melee and it has basically free attack speed buffs, and crits that apply brittleness and rending
gonna sound like a dip shit but I'm gonna need to see some evidence to back that outlandish claim
You can reach one shot breakpoint on bruiser cold with Rashad Axe, you need stacks of HT or Deci' to reach that on Zealot
No not really. On my shitty knife build I can just about one shot crushers and maulers
And Vet can do that with a number of weapons too
With a fucking shit scooper no less
So can zealot
Im gonna need to see that claim myself 
With greater survivability too
Zealot certainly has the survivability edge, but i already covered that
Good backstab build with thunderhammer can one-two shot most monstrosities
@devout vault
Yes, TH can, i never seen Rashad do it, moreover, TH is deadass dog against everything else
IMPLYING I WILL LET HERETIC BREATHE FOR A SEC
Are you guys really gonna let that veteran slide
What about that is a two shot lol? 
That is some shit right there if you're claiming "two shot with Rashad"
I don't think 1-2 shotting certain things to possibly fall to a fart is a fair measure of strength
This exactly
Those backstabs tho
you can see that I dealt 30k dmg in one hit
and a plogryn has 60k health
now if you do the math that's 2 hits in my books
And overall, Melee wise, Zealot does more damage in general
Vets can dish decent damage. But zealot excels in many other ways including damage
until you start getting Plasma Gun
Can't kill stuff if someone already Plasma them dead
Not even one of the most powerful options the class has tbh
really? I definitely think plasma is up there
@devout vault I dm'ed you like a dumb ass jagaloon if you didn't see it. Sorry
Its strong, but its dog vs boss
Rat
plasmagun bad vs boss? thats a weird take
Im a rat main, I don't care about what class is better
that's true
I just take my mini knife and run ahead like 600 meter and get one shot by chaos rat (trapper)
Its relatively good vs weakened bosses, but not great vs full fat ones
I dont know about you, but I feel like Veteran still suck even with proper builds compared to other class atm
a lot of map just not designed for vet
If we're talking bosses you need to break the shields on to this day, psy swords are the thing that do the most damage up front when the shield down. I could be wrong.
Like this is a single mag from Recon Lasgun, which takes near fuck all time to dump
potential damage is high but it doesn't matter if something just stare at you a bit
And maybe PHammer
with recon las
i dont believe this at all
yea your statement made more sense when i thought about it, plasma gun deals a huge chunk but the ttk is very slow compared to a columnus auto gun, crit recon, or braced
Recon Las is formidable on Vet
Good for you, its reality, people are just incredibly stupid and if someone tells them something is bad, then they'll assume its bad an not even try to test it themselves
plasma gun has naff dps
what blessings you using or was it just a random grey to prove a point lol
recon las takes I need to see outside meat grinder
i dont play recon im a plasmagun/revolver enjoyer
Thats with Headhunter/DumDum + Marksman's Focus keystone, an no, its a good roll all in, maniac/flak for perks
I assume this is all headshot?
Yup
lmao im still stuck on the fact we call Plogryn/Spawn/Beasts bosses. 
It's good potential damage afterall, I trust that statement
Its the same deal, Finesse weapon is buffed by Finesse Keystone, who woulda thunkit right?
Not like x must be better than y
All you gotta do is be consistently accurate to leverage Marksman's, but people are still hung up on "oH bUt I nEeD tO sTaNd sTiLl!!!" (you dont)
when you have good veteran tryhard with plasma gun and power cycle IV running around dishing a lot of damage
yeah, but I could also take an IAG.
but yeah the 'standy still oh no' part of the keystone is massively overblown
You shush your big head up!
not a vet main so I can't talk on behalf of that
There is a reason they give it to the people who deserve it in lore!
but my friend has been dishing more damage than me when they run power sword/plasma gun
when any full auto gun caps stacks from briefly looking at some guys at head height
yea and a dude fresh outta prison DOES NOT deserve a power sword
ruining my immersion
lmao I know.
Sure, you could just take an IAG, but its skill floor is much lower, Recon is just one of those things that requires a bit more effort than others, which is a bit weird to have to say about a gun with no recoil, but hey, it is what it is
Can't kill shit if everything just die
the power sword can 2 shot crushers so for some reason roundfish went and made a weapon that can 1 shot crushers
shobel fune
Powersword an TH both need a rework tbh
i wish there was a thunderhammer that did AoE damage on the activation
idk if the new one does that i aint try that thing
I think it's okay because I still feel vet's skill tree fuckin suck
looks ugly af
TH should have AoEs on regular attacks and keep the big ol' powered bonk for single targets, PSword, i dont even know what the fuck to do to fix that mess
my biggest objection to the recon las is that it gets its knees randomly broken consistently enough that it's not worth going through the hadron plasteel olympics to make a gun that delivers less than my call of duty assault rifles
and psword is just broken strong
powersword shouldnt be in the game for random guardsmen that were in prison a day before
If random gangsters in rogue trader can have a power hammrr
you could maybe give the hammer some kind of AOE action follow up for elite packs
And a power maul
but other than that eh
Then we can have powar wpnz
which is why it is clearly a broken one
since it does not hold charge for more than several swings
Its a bit annoying that its been hit with so many nerfbats thats for sure, but hell, that setup from the above picture would have been actually broken with old Shocktrooper
Bit more effort...
Are we really saying the Recon Las takes skill?
When only times it eas ever good was when it could abuse bugs or talents?
Giving a power weapons to someone who's survived as long as we have at 30 makes sense that should be the unlock imho.
yea after 1 damnation mission any guardsman that survives should just become a space marine ngl
Just spam crusher special 
Main problem is that TH is kinda shidd vs everything that you cant give a fat wallop to, well shidd is maybe a bit much tbf, but it struggles compared to many of its contemporaries
We're members of the Inquisition, Rannic made us personal Squad and we are Auric level operatives.
I don't really agree with that
Yea lol wut
T hammer workz fine in hordez naow
I can kill pretty much everything with a hammer
Also is it me or Zealot Marytdom fuckin suck in the new boss fight
U shouldve saw it prepatch
We're practically part of Rannicks fucking Retinue
Its good now, but yes, in effect, if you cant consistently headshot dudes, then you might as well bring something that doesnt require that amount of effort
but power creep on everything else makes it appear worse
You can stagger entire mixed hordes and can 1-2 tap trash 💀
Stagger fuckin suck when you can kill shit
why stagger when you can kill with other weapon
U do kill shit
gotta be baiting
It doesnt have a dam cap anymoar
Which was what anyone with room temp braincell count does
W slaught and thrust u wipe the floor w everythin
Thats kinda the crux of the balanced discussion all round tbh, class power has to come down a fair bit before any weapon balancing discussions really have all that much relevance
The hammer literally staggers one of the largest areas at a time 💀
I don't want every weapon to be as stupid as an hsword caxe psword illisi dueling sword etc
So u can cleavr through entire mixed hordez
i just want 2 handed chain axe
Then its a good gun 🤷♂️ its 5 headshot kills to cap MF's at the 15 stack, which should be trivial
dont care bout anythin else
Stagger
Yea imma just kill the hordes with attack speed buff and such
First swing, everything staggered. Second swing, half of what’s in front is dead.
I wonder if he thinkz we're talkin about the p maul
I'd rather just bring a Plasma Gun and clear the whole hallway of things rather than vacuum the ammo to kill 3 poxers with 1 recon mag
I dont know aobut you but I don't meet a lot of thunderhammer user
does it take a lot of effort to be good with hammer? sure, but it's one of the only rewarding weapons to use
see things and spam heavy ig
My wanted weapons are 2 hander power sword and melta. Thats it.
You are vastly underestimating what that gun is capable of
no.... this is not how you use a hammer
He has 2 be baitin
Probably because someone told you it was bad, but hey ho
We've been playin since like
Wow. It's still standing
In most of our cases, the closed beta
That was one mag
The recon was gokd lost patch cuz of a bug w rending stacks
trueee a melta gun would be dope
Fuck you I WANTED to go to hard mode first try
W it patched it's outclasses by the autoguns
I wasn't draggged
I play pugs with it an top the board on the regular 🤷♂️
I want a plasma listole
who cares about clips of vet damage on monstrosities, almost every gun in the hands of a vet deletes monstrosities
Its not a hard gun to make super strong if you're not braindead
Dude it's pubs
That's like saying I win arguments in general chat regularly

Those guys are lobotomy victums
You have plasma gunner in your name, which is also tantamount to saying "i cant aim for shit" if you wanna go down that route 😉
stealth bug abusers make the game so boring
theres a stealth bug?
new revolver can 1 mag monstrosities, does that make it a good gun? no
Who gives a fuck if its in meat grinder or not? Even if it isn't thats still close to have the health gone if you account for missed head shots.
I think its pretty good tbh, its just a shame it has no cleave
On top of the clip, the other players have it killed alongside the consistent dps.
i dont like not being able to aim
Ppl like gimmicks and bad guns
the brace should be special action
I should know. I've been using plasma since beta xD
Been playing it on Psyker, with the ability to supplement the ammo usage issue, its good over there, but its sadly gonna be being compared to old revo', which is just utterly fucking busted 
imo just a shittier version of the existing revolver, but it is fun to say its high noon and then spraying
Not really
Devs were of course trying to make a revolver that wasn't the same as the first.
Speed reloader does help a lot now that the blessing is weird
So they resorted to making it Fan hammer with no cleave
Close kill = Faster reload speed
All it really needs is the ability to cleave like 5 hitmass
cant aim and deals less damage how is that not shittier lmao
An then its kinda sorted
Right click spam shoot something dead
A lot of time I dont get any space to fully reload revolver in auric 5
need to get those incredibly overpriced white pants, going for a kinda n corp inquisitor look with the armor
just too much hordes + Special
I still wanna know why Rannicks balling revolver has a ring at the end of the barrel that glows blue before he fires.
So at least then random poxies aint "get down mr presidenting" your shots
old revolver shoot 5 shots and kill everything on the screen
dunno if theres a helmet to match
new revolver kill like 2 things
This pretty decent?
Don't reload fast enough that's the problem
counterpoint its fun
Like i said, this is the problem, its gonna be compared to old one, which is busted at the moment
Not enough breathing space in Auric 5
New one needs more cleave, old one needs its cleave reduced
or just swap to the real revolver, 1 tap the special, and continue cleaving hordes
I dont know about you, but there's just too much to kill in Auric
yeah the old revolver needs a nerf for sure
but in general it is a bit Lesser
the playstyle is for the quick of hands
game needs a big balance pass
Yes, yes it fuckin does 
i though they already nerf the old revolver
Too much fuckin hordes + special make your 5 rounds goes too fast
They did
Now you do slightly worse against crusher
they "nerfed" it
People are gonna scream like a spoiled kid when his mum wont buy him sweets when the nerf wave happens, but it needs to
aka not an actual nerf
But overall, it doesn't impact how you play revolver in auric 5 which is quickly snipe the special
they can just buff the new revolver
while your evis kill face tank hordes
I kill a billion elites and specials every time I bring revolver, it's not just for sniping specials occasionally
rather than bringing stuff up to it
Well it kinda does, because enemies stack up a lot in Auric, so that one shotgunner you shot, ends up having the bullet pass through his head an killing six of his mates
Just as God intended
they should add some cleave into the new revolver
Yeah, and reduce it on the old one
hell you don't even need crit to 1 shot flamers if you are close to them
what is harder Auric or hardmode Twins? new player so apologies if it's apple and oranges type of situation, just want to get some idea
what this game really needs is a disgraced commissar class that allows you to execute downed teamates for buffs
There is no Auric version of the twins, there is normal and then there is hardmode
U cant blay Twins in Auric
Auric missions are just Damnation and whatever the difficulty beneath Damnation is
Same rewards, everything
ah i see, ty
However, you're guaranteed at least one hi5 shock mission
In Auric
And all Auric missions have like
maowric meowssions :3
Im really confused whether people actually do Auric 5 to realize you dont get breathing room in general with revolver reload
Y i dont use remeowver
I'm confused how people still struggle reloading guns
And use the brauto instead
I just prefer the kantreal instead at times
Because you're the face tank?
sometimes i fumble reloads because my carpal tunnel makes me drop the bullets
Yea let me get this veteran to the front and he will power sword everything
Red fumblin thr bag
oops he die
there are no roles
Typicale..
cuz the mauler look at him aggressively

I should say the kantreal shotgun specifically because I just realized how little kantreal narrows it down
I dont like shotgunz
There is no roles so Psyker can just one shot everything fr
sure you do
Cuz i played 2 much comp tf2 as a demomain
everyone just kills everything, it's not some complex team game
Demomain spotted
Opinion
Tolerated
This is the parte where i squeal and showe u my demoman unusual collectione like it's my cherished shoe collectione
I mean... melee volver vet atm is meta vet
And those guys do wanna be in front
yeah psword is ridiculous
People complain Psword and Shovel while Veteran just have extremely high skill floor with other weapon and can't even do shit
new shovel revolver wep master goes stoopid
Devil claw
Lol
Rashad
devil claw, rashad, combat knife
Like the only "meh" vet melee weapons are the chains and the tacaxe
chainsword is still good
For vet its meh cos they have too much good shit
Whatz the new shovel like
By then just play ogryn larping with point-blank barrage

A thunderhammer
I nvr play vet
New Chainsword fucks tbh
Fair
the new ogryn shovel can one shot 4 crushers at a time 🙂
Havent tried that one yet
Its worth giving a go, very strong weapon
BABE HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO DARKTIDE BUT NOT MY DM
Why play veteran when you could be a guy that just dont die, a space magician, and a better vet larper
Vet shovel can also 1 tap crushers, but only one at a time.
And thats why new BM is more busted than the old one
Cos vet has very very good melee?
And the best precision ranged in the game?
But outside of funny 4 Crusher one-taps, it’s still a worse Mk3b/Mk1 clob
Should just have been straight up deleted, not even given a second chance
Im sorry but with what toughness
WTFF
Vet's main thing is they are squisher than zealot and ogryn
yea but chainsword go brrr and enemies bleed
vet is incredibly strong people are just bad at playing it
With my 3s cooldown chastise toughness regen
fun > meta
Teache me diz crusher killin technique..
Im unable 2 adapt zo my vet loadoutz r all just exec stance
And my 8.5% tou regen on melee kill. And my 15% tou regen on headshot. And my 10+25% on elite kill
What's the meta build right mrow
idk the setup but it's just new shovel with thrust and maybe carapace and perhaps some talents idk
cica u need crucnch and the bonus ogryn dmg + thrust 4, cara, and brutal momentum
but you can also 1 shot 4 maulers at a time etc
Brutal meowmentum
And my toughness in a button ability on a 30s cooldown with 6s cdr on special kill.
And my 50% tdr at high tou
thrust and + carapace are a must for the build
Like vet has some of the best tou regen in the game atm. Maybe not as insane as ogryn. But its insane
yea i like playing VoC with all toughness regen nodes and toughness regen share to coherency
super good
Can't argue if all vet play like god with their build but they just don't
well idk about good but i enjoy feeling like Kruber
just simply easier to play as ogryn gun larping
Vet has the issue of being the "easy" class sincr launch
vet attracts the worst players that won't learn to melee and take terrible builds and try to play like an FPS
So a lot of people there got propped up by the class pre P13
Well thats the meme innit, most of the playerbase doesnt play any class to thier fullest extent
Also this
Its the CoD class
does any of this seem reminiscent of the creature that was banished
even the way they talk
or is it just ptsd
Ptsd
Going right back to this, hell nah we need to nerf everything
You did well with your build doesn't mean half the population of this game can replicate it
I mean vet having better melee than zealot is... interesting shall we say
Tbf zea has way way better survivability
So its not unbalanced
Its just well... vet has so much power in the melee that you dont expect it to have
zealot is tanky plus dmg vet is just glass cannon if they go melee
Zealot hasnt really ever dominated melee dps.
Vet isnt even glass tbh
Rarely, you could came across vet that run power sword that deal more damage than zealot
Its just not zealot brick levels
idk my friend dies all the time playing melee vet
mostly, you came across vet that run power sword that keep going down
Its either been vet or psyker outperforming zealot melee.
Don't tell them that Wilmer 
Ogryn also.
Psword got a lot harder to use now post P14
Its still amazing good
Just not braindead
Is perfectionist or Master Crafted better for a knife/thunder hammer stealot?
Like a thunderhammer. U cant just mindlessly spam it
Perfectionist just better if you want to boss kill
depends on how good you are, if you find that the baseline 3 seconds stealth isnt enough to get the attack off then getting more time is better
The 300% damage illisi cucked zealot for most of the patches from having the highest melee damage
People used to the old brain off Special Heavy Heavy Heavy technique now suck on Psword
Shroudfield is just your team suck (or you want to play specific map)
Also the psword
Since... ever
I was a special light light light lsr
ty yall
PS 6?

Shroudfield in the new map is useful to just go hiding and rez people constantly
because your team gonna go down a lot
Hehe i have nothin in my brain
I just did lightz
Cos u actually have to... gasp block
Cuz im lzy

Its like special into block cancel into lights for chaff
I disagree until they get better sound in this game
Special into blocj cancel into push attack and light strikedown for elites
the audio sometime just gone
But it basically kills crushers about as fast as Thammers
Oh Imma get hit (Audio que didn't exist)
Without the vulnerability window
Main adv thammers have now over the crazy vet melee options frankly is boss damage
And even then well
Helbore bayo exists

Ok it no longer is as nutty as it was, but its still nutty
Helbore bayo boss damage slaps
It used to have ttks similar to thammer
Now its a bit slower
Anyone got opinions if Martyrdom or Inexorable Judgement makes you tankier or if one is better over the other with the Tigrus Heavy?
Martyrdom + Crit Tigrus right now is just too good
fun game
Inexorable Judgement just not that great imo
Thats how I feel
You get so much shit from Martyrdom, Better Toughness Damage Reduction, better attack speed better attack damage
Blazing Piety on Perfect Blessing Tigrus is not required because you just crit a lot
Whats considered perfect to you cuz I see a mix of three blessings everyones using on it
I think thats what im on atm
Martyrdom solve the underlying issue of Evis just being low attack speed (Compared to Heavy Sword)
go in, turn your brain off, block + heavy + heavy, go low toughness -> press F
the only thing that can kill meta zealot is just a bunch of gunner spawn
Wouldn't recommend doing that
I dont find fire that much issue because you pull out le revolver
Kindred
one tap it in the head and goes back
I don't find gunners a problem because they can't stun me
Twbs moment
But when u get a bullshit spawn with nlos bombers and just all the flamers with tight corners
That just mean there isn't enough gunner
Yeaaaaa
I also have x3 gunner resistance
I s2g. Every time fatshark goes
"Reduced Elite count"
Gunner population doubles
There's not enough gunners to kill me
Not yet
do you guys like my zealot
Soon
I once got a double gunner patrol
Can I take a look at your build
The only problem I had as zealot is just gunner
a fuck lot of gunner spread across a long hallway
Lotta "DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR" I fear followed by the sounds reminiscent of an execution
Melee vet is actually the 4th zealot subclass
Can i recommend the agripinna shotgun?
my bank can't afford it after I spent it all on the warp bussy
Fashion Korps of Krieg
Fair
WARP BUSSY!? HERESY!
It's usually something like this
ngl, veteran got the DRIP this time around
Look, The beloved deemed it ok
with caxe and 3 toughness curios
Ah
Youre hanging out with THAT psyker again arent you
its the closest i can make the dawn of war krieg officer
You run heavy Evis with that?
It is certainly possible...
Psyker Dome + Flamer got me acing up
but i'd switch something up
I feel like it's good with knife but not really with Heavy Evis
now here is my real zealots
with stunstorm
God that 2nd ones mask is so goofy
we love a knightly priest
Like you're ready to be tied up and all
that's more then half of 40k
I meannnnn
so at least 21k
You're a zealottttt
no sir
just a wipeout fan
well they could been higher
Too low for what?
any relevant breakpoints i guess
nah it should be serviceable
This is good
i dont see any zealot codex
I'd worry more about getting thrust 4 before fine tuning the axe
yeah i still don't have thrust 4
Stats are 100% fine for HT+slaughterer
gimp mask
Exactly
suitable attire for suitable activities
But bloodthirsty is questionable
why questionable
hmm
well, you may not have 60% all the time
and as you are killing the crusher your 60% will decay
at most 30
Yeah thrust 3 is merely +45% power 
so you hold heavy charge all the way ?
while facing, most definitely more than 1 crusher ?
You don't need to fully charge a heavy to get 3 stacks
whats the chest from?
how long do you have to hold ?
recolored moebian chest
hmm
Thats a thing or mod?
Not too long
How you do dat
mod
mod, called for the drip
hmm
Nyhaheghegehgehgzgegehgeheghe
Thank you. I too have the gimp mask so I will do that
really want money to buy the gimp mask with the hood in the store right now lol
but im not getting paid till feb
I think its divinity original sin 3
idk how long do you think it is but if i had to hold it all the way, which i have to if i want 3 stacks, then im not really sure i can be safe
Nuh uh, divinity original sin 27
the fastest heavy i can do dont give me any thrust stack
Baldurs 3 isnt made yet
It's definitely less time than it takes to fully charge a heavy
idk, im testing it in the psyka right now and its def need meto hold all the way
is this worth building fellow zealots
also where can i get curios?
all builds say i should get blessed bullet
no idea where to get it
well
Blessed bullet is just what the Curio is called, any Curio can have anything ye desire
you can buy curio from requisitory shop
keep checking the armory
right so any curio is fine
as long as it has the stats i want?
Yes
yeah as long as it has the stat you want
nice
what about this wep
its damage seems a bit low
turto sword+ stub revolver makes me struggle against armored stuff
cant really find a solution to it
idk how to change my playstyle
You'll learn it overtime, things like ye change and grow overtime
but in that build my way out is to spam revolver im guessing?
since it has rending
Well I wouldn't say SPAM, with surgical you'll be giving yourself a lot higher Crit chance by aiming down sights for a short bit (up to 100%) rending and surgi are stupid strong
Yep i meant only stub shots
Yeah, only thing I see a problem is bulwarks but ye can practice making them open up depending on what nade ye have
Maulers
Very loud and angry fellows
If ye struggle to hit their head their body is a lot easier as unlike their helm their body is flak
Right yea
Those two I struggle with cuz I'm often cornered and my teammates let me get gang piled
Oh ye I did notice that
Ye never want to be in corners with em, they thrive off those if it's just you and multiple
how do people take down the shieldsreally quickly
what shield
You have 14 fingers? I know hicks have a problem with inbreeding but damn 
Average american
Any country ever ?
Baguette
not in the warhammer universe
Sadly 😦
what weapons a re people using for the fight
I had a knife zealot, but I was a rending trauma psyker
Knife zealot was really useful to set off bombs
ive liked new evis so far
thammer would be good obv
havent run anything else yet
T hammer is meh until you break shield since shields have an innate max damage cap
yeah I tried hammer a few times andit's sort of hard
I tried crucis and there's just too many adds to get clear shots on elites
I think what weapon you run should depend on what else your team is doing
and pretty much always 0 toughness when aggroed
Chocolatine ou pain au chocolat ?
If you're trying to pub, just use an ironhelm or evis
beat hard mode with my Crush(er)
what did you do with crusher
Shoot them in the face
its lag time for me
parry gets crit and dmg whatever
no more Dt today 😔
boioioing
Either focus the ranged one or control the mass of ragers/maulers/whatever it spawns.
Sometimes yes
does the special stagger the bosses
Chocolatine
does anyone know how the toxic gas buffs poxwalkers by how much
no
were you running chorus
na chastise
ok
There's a steam guide
link?
that's just for the bells
Sorry it was on Reddit
ok
Looking for it
I'll have al ook later
can weapons be used across classes?
or not?
No
But blessings can
Well,
If ye have a weapon for vet, ye can't use thee for zel
gotcha
But if ye obtain thee blessing than thy can use the blessing for the zel
we can only store 1 blessing at a time
and it gets used up right?
when we re bless
So long as it's the same weapon or a weapon in the mark
as in 1 copy of headtaker
Yes, or it's other previous marks (if it has any)
ohh right
And tip
If the weapon becomes locked ye can still grab the blessing to own
But ye can't replace it
Once you unlock a blessing you have it available to apply forever
That too
blessings also transfer across characters like the rest of crafting
1 good thing fatshark has done with the whole system
im confused
so we can re use blessings?
i got a handcannon earlier
so i can just apply handcannon on other revolvers?
as many as i want?
Yes
Your brain is the ocean when it comes to it
Or is it the skies the limit..whatever doesn't matter
yea literally overhwhelmed when i read those builds
im dumbing down whatever i can for my own sake lol
now that im 30 and got a decent weapon and stuff
what should i work towards?
havent done auric missions cuz im scared lol
What I do not recommend is doing what I did and as soon as I hit lv30 the first damnation mission I went to was damnation Twins
yea i didnt touch it
Play regular damnation if you're comfortable with it, upgrade whatever stuff you like
is cleave targets too low?
Waddup
Dump cleave targets
also, shred is fine right?
For crit builds you want shred + rampage anyway
worth? or pen too low?
Swords 👎 axes 👍 chain weapons 👍 mk3 knife 
It’s an okay weapon. Keep it just in case you don’t get a better one
mk6 hsword is one of the best zealot melees altogether
mk9 hsword is also one of the best zealot melees and is the easiest to use
How’s this eh?
falter to headhunter
but its bricked
deadly accurate + headhunter bis blessings
cara to maniac
yeah no point shoot at carapace with that unless you F'd

What blessings do you have
not sure
anyway i doubt blessings could make it better than other weapons with blessings
It's a mid weapon that you have to sweat your ass off with to do alright
how do you guys build the new revolver
combat blade is very good if you have the right build
Define very good
fun, niche combat, mobile, able to deal with many situations
great at elite hunting
not great at horde clearing
Very fun to play I general
What should I turn this into fellas? Ill be back in a little bit to read any responses.
I havent used Mk 6 yet, but +2 stam should probably be swapped with dmg of some type
i would stack lacerate and flesh tearer blessings onto it though
the new “horde clearer” knife if my favorite weapon on zealot in my opinion
well
i use mk3
mk 3 is delightful
If you use stealth with the knife
You can either one shot it
Or get it to under half
but you can one shot literally everything else
wait the big guys or the ones with the chainsaw axes
the big guys
Oh
You can get them like half easily but since your in a team if you half them they’ll be dead in a second
Haymaker to Uncanny Strike
Stamina to Maniacs or Elite
whats a good ranged wep besides stub revolver?
with a lot of ammo
Oh wait, that's a new one
hmm haymaker could be good on it then
brauto is fun
I didn't actually
damnation meat grinder btw
which blessing is worth taking?
Which one is better?
my knife isn’t the best because hadron cucked me out of the crit chance refinement
for what purpose? horde clear? elite kills?
but it still performs
yea
i mean for hordes i got melee
so mostly elite kills, long range ones
If you use the stealth
i always find doing this so satisfying when there’s like 7-8 of them in auric
Move you probably could one shot it
which one is brauto?
cant find a gun by that name
Agrippina braced auto
Columnus Mk2 with right blessings is fantastic at mid range
err wait is it mk 5?
It's for shooter/elite blob clear
Gotta worship mommy Hadron for her best rolls
ya
mk V is infantry
mommy hadron and i have a findom thing going on it seems
Meowbow
i use it currently for that; horde and blobs of ragers
Probably she loves that shit
believe me id love some ordos too
every time i finish a match i keep getting ripped off by brunt first
wanted to use this since i like its feedback
wonder if its worth
this specific gun
just two assholes running the shops
I kinda want to get into the brauto now for some reason, which one is considered the best?
maybe it's just me, but I typically want my weapons to ahve at least 70%+ dmg
noted
Oooof lmaoo
I have to many ordos
it’s genuinely not fair i can spend like 500k and only get 2 weapons with enough stats and then hadron fucks them up
i hate her
i’m going to arson her shop
371, I mean I would always prefer max damage on most of my weapons but idk the scaling on those guns. Like say a columnus iag? You can be like 60% vs 80% and the dmg differential isn't make or break significant
that damage stat is brutally low
tbh i wouldn’t run that
I prefer the other knife heavy too but this one not terrible
It isn't "brutally low" it could just be better if he lucks out with brunt
And then me over here, ever worshipping mommy Hadron getting god rolled bolters/lasguns on my first try
yeah i tried running it too but just doesn’t come in handy like the mk3 does with the ability to one shot ragers and maulers
66 is brutally low lol
which seems like the bread/butter of the zealot build tbh
you want like 75+ at least lol damage is not a sink stat on that gun
Like what other guns do you have and do you play enough to keep rolling for more without a care? Depending on that, it's a serviceable gun until you get a better stat alignment one
not mine that’s for sure
i run a super memey build LOL
and perhaps worth upgrading for blessings
i discarded all older ones, rn
only have the zarona stubby
Use push attacks more.
is that 3 or 6
3
Have you ever actually looked at the stats for some guns and seen what the actual difference the numbers make. A 12% dmg columnus iag isn't a super soaker vs a 80% dmg one
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