zealot-class

[agile pivot]

Its not like its crit chance or damage is exactly impressive and it is SLOW.

[misty abyss]

Didn’t this set come with goggles for the head slot

[polar nexus]

I want those pants so much

[zinc talon]

oh you're right

[sage swan]

Hmm... I'll try a chorus build with the devil claw n see how that goes. Since shooters can spawn in the hard mode, a revolver isn't doing me the most good, wondering if I should take a brauto or something

[agile pivot]

Better for heavy sword or dclaw or knoce

[misty abyss]

Yeah the pants and the chest are the set, and those goggles

[polar sand]

I use martyrdom build with crit evis, works beautifully and destroys pretty much everything

[zinc talon]

this was another head that came around that time too

[languid canyon]

is this worth upgrading?

[distant maple]

Huh

I got it wrong then

[zinc talon]

other individuals that came in the first 3 or 4 cycles

[distant maple]

I wasn't there for the 6th rotation

[agile pivot]

I am trying to get a rampage ss flainiac evis but for the time being I am using ss and wrath together because im insane and need to be stopped

[zinc talon]

these came shortly after

[sage swan]

I saw that chocob cleared the hard mode with an infinite ammo inf auto build on vet, which is probably a good idea, i just don't have a good inf auto on my vet

[zinc talon]

I couldn't tell you the ordering

[agile pivot]

400% cleave dmg goes a little silly

[polar sand]

This is what im using atm
No clue what is ss flainiac is tho hahaha

[distant maple]

Godammit I want that hoodie

I'm pissed I missed that one out

[zinc talon]

then shit got really fuckin good for a time

[distant maple]

Huh?

What was the next

[zinc talon]

favorite outfit cuz sister of battle

[distant maple]

Oh

[ornate bone]

I really don't know how to make a zealot build

[agile pivot]

Ss= savage sweep flaniac=flak maniac

[distant maple]

Isn't that recent?

[ornate bone]

What should I be going for right now

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-jack-sparrow-johnny-depp-scream-scared-gif-6097020

[zinc talon]

then brobocop came out

[agile pivot]

Keep in mind I am an oldhead and vastly prefer the mk2 eviscerator

[polar sand]

ahhh, hmm i dont find that much cleave that important

[agile pivot]

That’s because the mk15 evis is completely awful at cleaving anything

4 targets damaged max

[steep hollow]

amen

[agile pivot]

mk2 evis has an extremely potent cleaving heavy

[zinc talon]

then sister of battle but tattered and battle worn

that's likely not the right headpiece

[polar sand]

Chopping 4-5 vs 6-8 per swing only sounds good on paper but most of the time you cant catch that many in the swing even when dragging the cursor haha

[agile pivot]

That kills like 11 shooters on a revved swing

[steep hollow]

the combos you can do with the mk2 allow you to control hordes much better imo, mainly because the block attack is a horizontal sweep

[misty abyss]

It’s not, I think it was black bandage? Something like that

[agile pivot]

Its 4-4

[steep hollow]

new eviscerator seems fun but i have been fucking up too much with it lol

[misty abyss]

That skull is a shop side purchase

[agile pivot]

The mk15 can ONLY damage 4

[distant maple]

BUT THATS RECENT FROM THE PAST WEEKS

[polar sand]

ah, still good by my standards haha

[distant maple]

So o haven't missed out much

[zinc talon]

this one, maybe?

[polar sand]

Maybe cause i focus on swing speed

[misty abyss]

Don’t think so?

[distant maple]

No

No

[agile pivot]

Also idk if you are where you are supposed to be as zealot you can easily hit 10+ targets a swing

[distant maple]

That helmet was for the sister battle

[zinc talon]

that one came out around the time of the sister of battle set, that's as much as I remember

right yep

[distant maple]

The tattered battered got that devilman dare devil mask

[steep hollow]

lol seriously?

[agile pivot]

Yea

[steep hollow]

that’s prolly why it felt so shit when i tried it

the stab block attack is fun. on paper. doesn’t do much even revv’d which is unfortunate

[agile pivot]

Its not a bad weapon but the mk2 is my ride or die until they release the horizontal only illsiviscerator

[zinc talon]

then this one got people talkin about kkk conspiracy garbage

[polar sand]

Yeah i almost never use stab block

[steep hollow]

i think they should just make a complete horde control eviscerator with vanguard attack patterns on literally every move

[polar sand]

I stick with lights for horde and heavies for revved attack

[ripe quest]

wdym Mk XV is just special L1 special L1 🙂

[sterile stone]

Everyone wants to do hard mode boss fight

[zinc talon]

also covid mask/I'm a duck quack quack comedy m ask

[sterile stone]

Everyone dies in phase 1

[distant maple]

I need that I need that I need that I need that

[sterile stone]

why

[ripe quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1183301165522358343/yeenbruh_-_1733130663212056854.gif?ex=6587d616&is=65756116&hm=e639f52e7c5413d6aabee70c1c509ef5e6c0322ecbe6a874c420e98fd21c1a0a&

[royal vortex]

simply win

[polar sand]

just L1 all the way and it works beautifully if you use aspd build

[zinc talon]

this was the publish I think they mistakenly added The Forbidden Outfits

[ripe quest]

I was mostly joking.

[steep hollow]

stab only eviscerator when

[agile pivot]

Idk thats the deimoviscerator, the mkxv

It felt just as useless as an actual melee weapon as the deimos did

[zinc talon]

one store update around this time the team mistakenly added a second page for every class

it had this style suit for everyone, but the individuals made no sense and the page was out of order and misshapen

they obviously fucked up and pushed something they didn't want to

[steep hollow]

when are they adding the rest of the penance cosmetics. man.

[distant maple]

I thought they deleted them from your inventory

[zinc talon]

but if you bought the gear in the like, half hour before they shitcanned the update and rolled out the correct cycle

you kept it

[hardy surge]

Negative Man vibes

[zinc talon]

I only had time to get okri and hatch's

[polar sand]

Btw why the heck did they even add the cleave stats to Mk 15 when you can only damage 4 damn o_O What were they thinking dayum

[zinc talon]

heh, I get Joshua Graham most often

that's about every cycle up to krieg then the free cosmetics we all got then something then today's update

[sour stirrup]

this even salvageable or nah

[exotic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/spanish-man-mdr-sing-gif-7692927

[sterile stone]

Bruh dead ass

[exotic portal]

change both blessings

[sterile stone]

I'ma vote kick any veteran that ques up to the boss fight

I swear to god not a single veteran alive that does this fucking fight

[zinc talon]

there was this suit but I can't remember at all how it fit together

[sterile stone]

Stays alive for more than 2 minutes

[strange kestrel]

yes change both blessings

surgical and hand cannon

and ur good

[zinc talon]

there were an are-you-guys-okay number of gas masks for a couple cycles so I have like six of them

[sour stirrup]

fr? its good?

[strange kestrel]

yep

[sour stirrup]

oh cool

[strange kestrel]

its ok

crit bonus a bit low and blessings are bad but you can change that

and its a good enough revolver

[zinc talon]

and then of course day 1 armor

and beta helmet

and that's as far as the rabbit hole goes I think, certainly farther than yall cared to read about I'm sure

[exotic portal]

Not as bad as getting a 380 rev, with surgical.

[distant maple]

I looked at all of them

So in conclusion

I didn't miss out as much as I thought

[zinc talon]

no, some cycles were very uh, whelming

[tiny walrus]

DUDE THAT HAT IS THE BEST IN THE GAME

[zinc talon]

especially the fatsuit chests, the white and red with the gold pendant and paper covering the chest

[zinc talon]

heh I'm using it to be a christmas elf rn

okri's dressed up as santy klaws

[steep hollow]

of the two chain axes. which one is better

i feel like the new one is good? but also mk4 seems to have been buffed, heavy attacks feel faster now

[zinc talon]

the new one feels a lot more natural in my hands for how I play

all chain weapons were improved

[steep hollow]

w mmo idk be better if not every light attack latched into enemies

[zinc talon]

the old and new variants are roughly comparable in damage

so it's not like the old ones are less effective than the new ones

[steep hollow]

i’m still at a complete impass about the eviscerator

[zinc talon]

also in case you missed it

[steep hollow]

mk2 still feels better

[zinc talon]

you can dodge out of sawing a target

[steep hollow]

also chain axe is fun

this game is finally getting build diversity. wow!

[zinc talon]

absolute godsend

[steep hollow]

only took a year and a class overhaul

[zinc talon]

the new variants were described by FS as push stab, light attack cleave, heavy attack single target overhead

which tracks across all 3 in combat

[steep hollow]

they need to do a 2 handed chaxe already

[zinc talon]

the new evis revs up and cleaves on light, and will auto-rev on push attack

[steep hollow]

like a super heavy one. let me rip through bosses

[zinc talon]

you can use the evis push stab to dispatch most every smol and standard enemy

[steep hollow]

maybe that’s why it feels so bad?

the old one auto revs on like every attack i think

[zinc talon]

it's easy to miss with that attack until you get some time in the seat

nope, evis mk 2 auto revved on heavies

[steep hollow]

idk. i still feel like mk2 eviscerator is more horde control than the new one

[zinc talon]

new evis does that plus push attack

[cerulean pike]

mk2 is more horde control yes

mk15 is more single target

[zinc talon]

new chainaxe auto revs on heavy, old chainaxe auto revs on light

[steep hollow]

very nice heavy 1 -> light 2/3 -> block push combo on the mk2

feels great

and actually pushes enemies

pushing w/o doing the followup feels wrong at this point

[sullen eagle]

is Evisc one of those weps that basically needs 4x80stat

[steep hollow]

maybe just a skill issue

[cerulean pike]

mk15 revs does way more damage than mk2

[zinc talon]

I like the new chainaxe because the old can feel like it's locking you in place when you're light attacking several targets

[steep hollow]

not really, just damage and shredder i think

[zinc talon]

it can mess with your momentum and aim

[steep hollow]

penetration prob

[cerulean pike]

yes

[zinc talon]

the new one bonks and staggers very well

solid cleave

and you don't run the risk of a mis click light attack turning you when you don't want it to

[cerulean pike]

you want as high of all damage stats as you can

then mobility can go eat a dick

[steep hollow]

is the criterator still a viable strategy though? i used to run it all the time, been jumbling my builds as of late

[cerulean pike]

i mean yeah

[steep hollow]

idk how hard they nerfed bleed

[zinc talon]

one stack per crit

[cerulean pike]

why are you wanting bleed

[zinc talon]

but eviscerators can cleave bleed very well

[steep hollow]

are you seriously asking me this

[cerulean pike]

criterator is mostly for the crit cdr

[zinc talon]

and axe/assault lay 14 stacks cuz they only single target

good for bosses

personally I prefer a bloodthirsty rev cleave setup

either eviscerator

rev, cleave, rev, cleave, crit crit crit

[cerulean pike]

mk15 bloodthirsty is neat

[steep hollow]

yeah. idk how long ago but i’m pretty sure way back when the horizontal heavy 1 would latch onto the smallest of mobs if revved

now it doesn’t

so it’s great for clearing trash mobs

because i’m pretty sure revving gives you more cleave or something

I live in blissful ignorance of not knowing the in-depth numbers for this game

[zinc talon]

evis will latch onto any special enemy you connect with

they only cleave horde and standard size

[steep hollow]

well yeah

[zinc talon]

and I think when they run out of cleave, they latch on the last target

[steep hollow]

that and also if it’s an overhead

[zinc talon]

that's H2

[steep hollow]

or l1

[zinc talon]

old evis h1 is horizontal

[steep hollow]

or l2 i think

[zinc talon]

yeah all other attacks for both variants latch first target

except old evis H1 and new evis L1

[steep hollow]

i kinda got muscle memory’d into H1 -> L2/3 -> block attack

works. most of the time

[cerulean pike]

it gets latched onto horde if it reaches the end of it's cleave

which is why people get ss so go brrm across everything

[steep hollow]

it’s a bit annoying to have to rev, swipe and then charge a heavy for an overhead revved attack lol

[zinc talon]

heh it can be for sure

but if you run bloodthirsty for the 100% crit chance

you can straight NUKE a special after horde cleaving

then get right back to it

[wintry osprey]

cant lie yh, am I a fetus for finding the "abhor the mutant" penance hard asf 💀

[zinc talon]

you're a

[cerulean pike]

is that the chastise on mutie

[wintry osprey]

yh but you cant impact the mutie, gotta hit it before you land

[cerulean pike]

cause i got that on accident

[wintry osprey]

if only

[cerulean pike]

just chastise with heavy sword

[hexed field]

ive been loving using the crusher but i dont kill stuff fast enough to get the team callouts

[steep hollow]

something something thunderhammer

[wintry osprey]

been tryin with it, but either im just too close, or my teammates kill it before I reach it 💀

[steep hollow]

hey at least mutant grabs are consistent now. last year youd get dragged after 5 seconds of the mutant running past you in the opposite direction

[polar sand]

it does well

[wintry osprey]

sounds fun that

[hexed field]

Remeber how bad houndsa were

[steep hollow]

launch darktide was a different beast

[polar sand]

crit evis with a revolver to take out specials/elites thats far away

[steep hollow]

as in dogs were undodgeable

i shit you not. you could not dodge dogs before

[wintry osprey]

you used heavy sword for it?

[zinc talon]

I straight adore dogs and dog packs now

[hexed field]

God they were so obnoxious

[zinc talon]

whoops

[wintry osprey]

that sounds fucked 😭

[steep hollow]

post build :)

[wintry osprey]

the fact they just tear into you too, not like the trapper

sounds mashed out

[steep hollow]

back in my day we couldn’t even earn blessings!

[zinc talon]

Top five most fun moments in darktide, squaring up against an entire dogpack and pushing them all back as they pounce

[cerulean pike]

nah i used something else

but heavy sword is an easy one to get it

[hexed field]

Coming soon!

[zinc talon]

no ambush no ability no gimmicks just you fighting off an entire pack yourself

[cerulean pike]

or thammer

[steep hollow]

slot machine crafting

casino a la hadron drives me insane to this day

[zinc talon]

welcome to fascist catholic war crime simulator and loot casino

[wintry osprey]

fair, been using the hammer tbh cause im a massive hammer nerd but like

[steep hollow]

i still don’t even know what blessings you want on the eviscerator. wrath or something??

[wintry osprey]

idk man, just feels a bit painful doin this with randoms ngl, do you get LFG's here for weird class dependent penances often or?

[zinc talon]

have you put any time in the seat with the crusher as a variation on hammer combat?

[steep hollow]

my perfectionist brain always wants to roll perfect 380 weapons but i seemed to have calmed my autism enough to the point where i don’t esplode from using 360+ gear

[zinc talon]

the two combat styles aren't exactly similar but someone comfortable with one can learn the other pretty quickly

[steep hollow]

honestly if you get a good stat distribution it doesn’t really matter

idk why they decided to cap everything at 80 though. makes 0 sense

i feel like with the lack of any communication regarding crafting… maybe we’ll get an overhaul like the class system

[zinc talon]

expansion pack weapon power increases

[steep hollow]

or maybe it’s a cope

[autumn shadow]

Isn’t there supposed to be another tier above orange

[polar sand]

Sec let me make it on the build maker page

[cerulean pike]

savage sweep for cleave
rampage for power
shred for crit

[zinc talon]

it's just a softcap they'll prolly massage up later

[cerulean pike]

wrath garbage cause game can fuck you up sometimes

[steep hollow]

inb4 integer overflow on a 100/100/100 weapon

[cerulean pike]

and be like "nah you didnt hit that enemy, you lose all your wrath stacks have fun having 0 cleave you fucking nerd"

[zinc talon]

I have bricked otherwise perfect potential weapons because 550

[autumn shadow]

I love the weapon customization mod capabilities

[zinc talon]

every play session is fresh heavens and hells

[steep hollow]

i am so happy for you and not jealous at all

549 though. lol

[polar sand]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ada53d5-b5e4-4cee-8172-de73593147e8

[zinc talon]

heh apologies, I realize that just looks like a shameless flex but it was to highlight my priorities when I get a 380

[cerulean pike]

carapace perk

[hazy kite]

whats the best anti twins gun?

[cerulean pike]

[steep hollow]

crafting system is literally the only thing holding me back from fully enjoying this game. i wanna try a new weapon and then BAM 4 hours of resources and 6 hours of coins on random rolls

[zinc talon]

I have more than a couple ButWhy.gif weapons like this

[autumn shadow]

Btw there’s one option that turns the devils claw swords and the knives into a literal stick and I love it

[polar sand]

Just L1 on everything, charge nonstop to keep your +aspd buff up and keep your wounds low, youll shred pretty much everything

[cerulean pike]

you do not need carapace perk on mk15

[polar sand]

Revved H1 can take out crushers on crit

[autumn shadow]

STICK

[cerulean pike]

revved h1 takes out crushers on crit/using chastise without carapace perk

[polar sand]

What to switch carapace to tho? I already one hit everything without crit if its revved H1

[steep hollow]

flak…

[cerulean pike]

flak/maniac/elites

[steep hollow]

if in doubt, flak or unyielding

or maniac yeah

[autumn shadow]

Is it just me or is + flak damage better in most cases than + carapace damage

[cerulean pike]

sometimes you don't have the time to do a whole revved h1 so getting faster ttk on elites in general is good

[zinc talon]

ITS ME MAJIK WOND

[cerulean pike]

it is.

[autumn shadow]

STICK

[zinc talon]

AH CAST FIST

[steep hollow]

ugh i wish there was a better way to get plasteel than farming quickplay forever.

[cerulean pike]

because there's only two (now technically 4) enemies with carapace

[steep hollow]

tired of this resource grind

[autumn shadow]

BONK

[cerulean pike]

flak is half the game

[steep hollow]

i unironically wanna go back to the early/mid game when i’m like level 10 and every gun or melee i get is an upgrade

[cerulean pike]

mauler and the karnak twins heads are carapace

crusher is full carapace

that's it

that's all the carapace enemies in the game

[autumn shadow]

Although at the same time I also like unarmoured

[cerulean pike]

you
don't need unarmored

especially on zealot

[polar sand]

Doesnt ghelp me clear another breakpoint tho o.o

[cerulean pike]

anything unarmored just

dies

[autumn shadow]

Aren’t most enemies with flak have exposed unarmoured

[cerulean pike]

if you're using just the dt calculator, what it doesn't take into account for is your talent damage

yeah but they just

die

[zinc talon]

my current favorite is setting up a slab shield so that the shield itself isn't displayed even though it's purely visual and the weapon itself is unchanged

[steep hollow]

have you thought about the carapace allies though…

[cerulean pike]

die

[zinc talon]

because in third person, what it looks like, is I lower my shoulder into enemy fire to block bullets and get shot on purpose

and heavy attacks punch enemies in the face

[autumn shadow]

I like seeing the shield although I don’t like how the c-thru shield mod stopped working for me

[gray ice]

ayo what the dog doin

[cerulean pike]

you want flak to bash in the heads of those with flak heads

those with unarmoured heads, you already deal full damage to them so they don't matter

[steep hollow]

you want flak like always anyway

[polar sand]

Ah i keep carapace for when i have no chastice for crushers

[cerulean pike]

then maniac is for ragers

[polar sand]

Most of the time they are the only ones that gives me issues

[steep hollow]

the only time i see a reason to go elsewhere is maybe unarmoured on the flamer or if you really hate snipers

[polar sand]

Since revolver takes care of most flak

[cerulean pike]

you definitely do not need unarmoured on flamer

[steep hollow]

but like. for the memes

[zinc talon]

idc that nobody else can see it

it makes me giggle and fangirl all the time

[steep hollow]

thor?

[polar sand]

o i didnt know theres a talent calculator haha, i just test things out either in person or in meatgrinder

I mean damage

[cerulean pike]

yeah there's a damage calculator

[zinc talon]

ME BIG PULPER AZ A SMOL PULPER ONNIT SOZ IF A SMOL NEEDS TA DO SOM PULPIN AH CAN ELP IM PULP

[cerulean pike]

It's how I prove that the crit damage and weak point damage perks are

utter garbage

[polar sand]

But yeah feel free to switch carapace to flak if it works for you better

[cerulean pike]

and should only be used for memes

[cerulean pike]

because a t1 armor damage perk is just better damage than a t4 weak point/crit damage perk

[autumn shadow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad7f3c6-a450-4054-b2de-02405900b6cc/parry-this

Opinions

[cerulean pike]

is this a meme build or genuine build

i need to know if i need to hate you or not

[autumn shadow]

You could use this

[distant maple]

Accurate ogryn

[zinc talon]

it's a 'news' gaming site, it's prolly presented as genuine

[autumn shadow]

Tried my best to make it good

[zinc talon]

not a dig on gameslantern or anything

oh it's yours, my m istake

[cerulean pike]

is this a genuine build

[zinc talon]

I thought it was an article

[distant maple]

Now okri, block an entire platoon of scab gunners with your force field

[steep hollow]

doesn’t matter. stamina curio. to the warp with him

[zinc talon]

heh don't tempt me with a good time

[autumn shadow]

Yes it’s a genuine build I just need to find the components for it

[cerulean pike]

oh

my god

okay here we go

[steep hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085363175299485751/1181811898753220769/watermark.gif?ex=65826b19&is=656ff619&hm=1bc6ed7af0918bcdbc5bac539b137507826c8f9821027bf0ebe8268b0a9c2eb5&

[autumn shadow]

[cerulean pike]

man where do i even start with this

[polar sand]

I would move second wind to +10% crit from blazing piety

[cerulean pike]

why are people so into getting stamina

god

[steep hollow]

i think i need to either redo my go-to loadout for full crits or full swing speed. on the eviscerator

[autumn shadow]

But I’m getting +30% with the bleed

[steep hollow]

i tried too hard to do a little bit of everything

[polar sand]

i use 3X stam curio on vet, works amazing on that talent

[cerulean pike]

you need to crit first to get bleed crit

[steep hollow]

this is so funny lmao

[cerulean pike]

okay first off

that claw is the worst thing i've laid my eyes upon

and i've looked at myself in the mirror

[zinc talon]

well darn, now that I watch it solely for the bullet block

[autumn shadow]

It’s purely for the parry and stagger

[cerulean pike]

you don't need the stagger

[zinc talon]

they're not shooting me center mass like I'd hoped

[cerulean pike]

parry in general already staggers hard

[torn stream]

With us having done a bunch of stuff with the Moebian 6th recently, do you guys think they're gonna start going into some of the big names in the Cult of Admonition?

[zinc talon]

so not exactly me laying the armored shoulderpad into fire

[autumn shadow]

STAGGER HARDER FUNNI

[cerulean pike]

you can stagger ragers just with parry without hammerblow

[steep hollow]

which heavy sword was really good? mk 9 right?

[cerulean pike]

all of them
mk9 considered best cause best moveset

[zinc talon]

but for non plant bullet magnet moments the visuals still look okay

[steep hollow]

mk9 and shotgun or something… charge build?

idk. i’m just looking for diversity at this point

[cerulean pike]

i need to learn how to use the mk9 properly cause i am just garbage

anyways back to roasting meeper's garbage build uhhhhh

[autumn shadow]

Also I would like some info can the party proc the perks or no

[zinc talon]

gauntlet just looks phenominal with this chestpiece

[cerulean pike]

what

[zinc talon]

I just love asymmetrical armor

[cerulean pike]

what do you mean can the party proc the perks

soc?

[autumn shadow]

AUTOCORRECT

PARRY

[cerulean pike]

oh

it's a hit so yeah i guess

not sure how missing a parry hit would work on wrath cause if you miss in general all wrath stacks gone

which is why savage sweep superior

[polar sand]

Damn okri, you fashion more than you actually play lol o_O

[steep hollow]

i really. really really want to dual wield swords. please fatshark

[zinc talon]

it's a disease, a sickness

[steep hollow]

i don’t care how good it is. i want 2 swords

[polar sand]

I play FF14 and i think you might find yourself another home there lolol

[cerulean pike]

anyways you pretty much want shred on that claw cause you're going crit

[autumn shadow]

But with the parry isn’t it faster to get more in a relative same timeframe

[cerulean pike]

you just need to click like
once

to get savage sweep up

[polar sand]

Same, dual sword or dual chain axe :<

[autumn shadow]

But the main point is to just block enemies

[cerulean pike]

and there's still a delay between parries

and you will get hit

[autumn shadow]

???

[cerulean pike]

there's a delay between parry proc and starting up another parry.
it's short but it's enough for shit to hit you

[steep hollow]

better yet: where’s my chain KNIFE

[autumn shadow]

I noticed that I could parry as fast as I could use the special

[steep hollow]

chain dagger if you will

unironically though give knife a parry

[autumn shadow]

I also have an idea I noticed if you hold block and parry than shortly after one after the other block attack and parry it stays up

[cerulean pike]

and also if you're just purely using parry you're gonna get like barely any crit cdr

also
god showstopper flamer

[autumn shadow]

Have yet to test it

[cerulean pike]

showstopper is such a garbage blessing... why have you done this fs

[autumn shadow]

I though the complaining part would be the fan the flames

[cerulean pike]

fan the flames has
some use

the puff has good stagger at least, much like the purgatus puff

staggers ragers

keeps you a lil bit safer against those fucks
fan the flames just makes that a lil stronger

though it's not needed

[autumn shadow]

I really like the idea of enemies blowing up in a crowd I’ve build up with the parry and stagger

[cerulean pike]

you're
not gonna do that

the crowd's gonna be dead just from the flamer itself already

cause horde is gonna die way before elites and specials do

and even when they explode
the explosions deal no damage

like, barely any damage

[autumn shadow]

???

[cerulean pike]

nevermind i looked and it seems they buffed the damage to

200 per explosion

[celest cave]

Well, even 200 is barely any dmg.

[cerulean pike]

when it used to do 50

[autumn shadow]

Chain reaction in a crowd

[cerulean pike]

it's 20%

what chain reaction are you gonna get

when a horde is already dead from just
using the flamer

[autumn shadow]

1/5 go boom

[cerulean pike]

realistically it's gonna be less than that

and the radius of the explosion is

3m

so much radius.

[autumn shadow]

Yes

[cerulean pike]

3 whole meters

[autumn shadow]

Isn’t that enough to hit 2-3 enemies away

[cerulean pike]

more like
1 enemy tbh

[autumn shadow]

But the point of this build is to crowd them all together in one big ball

[celest cave]

[cerulean pike]

you're gonna likely eat shit instead

from attempting to do so

[autumn shadow]

That’s why there’s parry and stamina for block

[cerulean pike]

you're still
very much gonna eat shit

your block is going to be reduced to atoms

even with all the stamina and efficiency

[autumn shadow]

There’s the 25% dmg red and 50% tough dmg red and +15% tough on dodge

[celest cave]

Lad committed to meme stuff. Let them try

[cerulean pike]

it was no meme

anyways lemme check how far away is 3m

again

[autumn shadow]

I legitimately want to run this

[cerulean pike]

bros gonna be more dead weight than 20% of my pubs

[celest cave]

No one can stop you from this. Idea is brilliant for making memes throws.

[cerulean pike]

80% of them are still worse than the concept of that build so

you got that going for you

[spare talon]

i just tabbed into the chat
what build
i need to see this

[autumn shadow]

I also went for the heal 25% of damage taken on purpose

[rustic ingot]

ughghhhhhhhh
finally

[cerulean pike]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad7f3c6-a450-4054-b2de-02405900b6cc/parry-this

this is about as far as 3m is probably going to be

[celest cave]

#zealot-class message

Idea to blow elites with showstopper while parry them

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/976221226823479337/1044327929796120606/attachment.gif

[cerulean pike]

i'm not exact cause the meter amount fuckin fades out when i get closer than 5 meters

[autumn shadow]

That’s a lot better than I thought it would be

[cerulean pike]

probably closer than that tbh

again i'm just guessing cause i can't see under 5m

[autumn shadow]

Still that’s really good for what I was aiming for

[cerulean pike]

getting beat up

[autumn shadow]

Parry and dodge and block

[cerulean pike]

getting beat up*

[spare talon]

as someone whos running a dclaw atm

[cerulean pike]

it's not that i don't believe in you

it's just that i really don't believe in you

[spare talon]

that build kinda hurts me

[autumn shadow]

And relic if you get surrounded

[rustic ingot]

Is anyone else sad this passive got nerfed and can someone please give me a reason to use it ;-; im sad they killed my boi

[cerulean pike]

it's still good

[polar sand]

its amazing for martyr build still

[spare talon]

it is still one of the best zealot notes to take regardless of build

[cerulean pike]

nerf doesn't mean it's not good still

cause

it's literally still great

[celest cave]

Problem with any "passive" playstyle in this game, you better kill things fast rather than dodge/block or parry them.

[cerulean pike]

you know what else can also ball up enemies

a normal claw build

[autumn shadow]

Parry has the retaliatory strike which is why it’s mainly supposed to use over block

[spare talon]

parry is supplimentary to dclaw gameplay, not the primary dclaw gameplay

[cerulean pike]

i love parrying ragers

truly the "eat shit" button

[spare talon]

yeah, thats when you use the parry

[autumn shadow]

You can also bully bosses

[spare talon]

you dont sit in front of a horde holding the parry button tho

[autumn shadow]

I stopped the gun Karnak mid mission into kicking into my parry for a solid 30 sec

[cerulean pike]

you can also just do that with
any build

[celest cave]

Rely on showstopper to kill things is way to be a burden mostly. In team all elites will die faster than showstopper will proc, if you last standing, you just get fucked with this setup. But better to try, than discuss it 🙂

[cerulean pike]

cause his ai is just
stupid

someone has dodged up to like -15 and was still able to keep the fucker locked in his kicking animation

because his kicks are dinky like baby

[spare talon]

explosions on elite kills
on an aoe weapon
which will kill everything that the explosion will matter against before the explosion even happens

[cerulean pike]

but cole

it does 200 damage now!!!!!!!!

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bombastic-side-eye-cute-stare-gif-7750337992934084741

[autumn shadow]

Dmg is dmg

[cerulean pike]

i remember the times when showstopper did 50 damage

good times.

[spare talon]

against what tho???
everything else will literally be dead by the time it happens

just use that slot for a raw damage increase

[ripe quest]

The most impactful part of showstopper is the massive suppression AoE it has.

[autumn shadow]

Hordes still clumping up on the wall of elites that will build up

[ripe quest]

After using it a fair bit since there isn't a solid 2nd blessing for Flamer anymore, it does hit stuff quite often.

But it's shit damage for anything beyond fodder.

[spare talon]

but we're talking about a flamer with showstopper and fan the flames

[cerulean pike]

love dealing 1/10th of a rager's health

and then not hitting it again because they get staggered out of range

[autumn shadow]

The entire purpose of this build is to keep enemies stunlocked and in groups

[cerulean pike]

you know what else can do that but easier

smite

[spare talon]

or you could
kill them

[cerulean pike]

they're stunlocked for eternity if they're dead

crazy concept i know

also if you're going for stunlock just
use a crusher

like, that thing is way better at stunning than a claw ever will be

[ripe quest]

yee. It has a suppression AoE. Also a thing to consider since I see the "everything will be dead" thing a lot. That is only true if all of the enemies you're fighting are already spawned in a single group in range. If it's mid-horde and you snag some elite procs if you get lucky it'll chip away at fodder and whatnot that just entered your ranged.

[autumn shadow]

The flamer staggers and can hit all the enemies in the group

[celest cave]

You need like around 2/3 of canister ammo to kill infinite amount of crushers. Why you want stunlock them? 🙂

[spare talon]

like i dont mean to be toxic or anything, but what youre trying to achieve is something you should be using other things for

[autumn shadow]

I’m aiming for primary not secondary

[ripe quest]

imo Showstopper would be an ok blessing if it wasn't a % chance thing. Probs a 0.5 second cooldown or smth to prevent spam.

[spare talon]

but the only things that you actually NEED to stagger is the front line of enemies
anything behind that front line cant hit you

[autumn shadow]

Ranged enemies

[spare talon]

shooters and gunners dont shoot through other enemies

[cerulean pike]

they hit their teammates

[autumn shadow]

For me they always like to pop off shots at me

[plucky gate]

are you sure showstopper is really doing that much suppression? Ranged kills just naturally have suppression to begin with

[cerulean pike]

I think I've made a gunner kill a reaper before

[spare talon]

hell, snipers will literally KILL enemies for you

[cerulean pike]

it was funny

[ripe quest]

I remember looking at the file. It's fairly sizeable.

I'll check rq

[spare talon]

have you seen that clip of a gunner shooting a bulwark that was just standing right in front of him

theyre just like us fr

the ogryn stands in front of the vet

[cerulean pike]

i think i need to bookmark the source code

[autumn shadow]

I wish the game would give concrete numbers in game

[plucky gate]

my favorite instance of friendly fire is when i had a sniper shoot a dog to death mid-air after i pushed it

i had no idea how it even died until i saw the footage

[cerulean pike]

simply just

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/16

ez

[autumn shadow]

That mod is so nice

Same with the one that shows effects

[ripe quest]

Here's showstopper.

[spare talon]

this mod has literally helped me clutch by allowing me to prioritize the lowest health crusher when i was the last alive

[cerulean pike]

same tbh

[royal vortex]

i dont run it anymore. need my IMMERSION

[gray ice]

cheats hax and bad player

[cerulean pike]

cry about it

[autumn shadow]

10m Suppression?!?

[gray ice]

i will both cope and also seethe about this

[cerulean pike]

you're the epitome of coping and seething

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[cerulean pike]

anyways take this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFHBOKa_ZG0

[ripe quest]

It's effectively the Flamer's version of Terrifying Barrage.

[autumn shadow]

That’s stupid and I love it

MORE STAGGER

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1181152612490432512/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_replay_2023.12.04-02.13.mp4?ex=65893f97&is=6576ca97&hm=ccb5d37ce166316446c16e03f80c093667fd1805d28e25064c9d9cdfaef86703&

[ripe quest]

It's sadly on a 20% chance.

[spare talon]

I LOVE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS

[autumn shadow]

20% is enough in swarms of elites

[gray ice]

aight you gonna get passed the aux, better not be that trash

[hoary owl]

Anyone got an optimized build that uses Chastise, fire nades, and crit? I want to see how it compares to the one I am using.

[plucky gate]

hmm, 10m range sounds pretty nice

[polar nexus]

that is probably one of the most op thing i have ever seen

[plucky gate]

is 12 suppression actually enough to actually suppress things though? sounds like it needs multiple explosions for something to actually get suppressed

[autumn shadow]

With fan the flames shouldn’t it be plenty

[untold carbon]

Still haven’t been able to overcome the twins on hard yet, came really damn close. Tomorrow I suppose

[celest cave]

You will be the first player in game who using primary fire on flamer, so tell us

[autumn shadow]

I like the primary on flamer

[plucky gate]

well the assumption is if you were running showstopper, you'd be taking instead of fan the flames, so you wouldn't have it

[ripe quest]

Suppression and stagger are different.

[cerulean pike]

suppression is them being scared

[ripe quest]

It's not a 10 meter stagger aoe, it means ranged enemies and I think some random melee enemy gets scared.

[cerulean pike]

stagger is them being knocked around

[royal vortex]

🙏

[ripe quest]

It's ok when it procs but the issue is stuff like that is nice when you can control when it happens.

[autumn shadow]

Can suppression override stagger levels or no

Cause if it can’t nice

[ripe quest]

I have 0 clue, not familiar with how stagger works.

[cerulean pike]

start reading the code, code boy

[plucky gate]

oh i found it
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053823148048527440/1179554704909406229/sniper_dog.mp4?ex=658ca9ec&is=657a34ec&hm=200c22cd29a7dfff26508d833f7fdbcbc23ed78255763d8ebaed69c4395e7eda&

i was so confused

[royal vortex]

the sniper was a secret ATF agent

[untold carbon]

I’ve been running momentum chainaxe with headtaker and thrust, I’m able to to some monster damage, just need to make sure to avoid Rodin’s brap bombs and I’m good

[royal vortex]

ive done it with caxe

beacon of purity comes in clutch for that fight

[untold carbon]

I don’t know how I did it but one attempt I got Rodin to a little under half health in the first minute of the fight

[royal vortex]

i think u can skip phases if u stagger them at the right time

not sure dunno how to do it

[hoary owl]

Would any of you ever suggest the Heavy Las Pistol over the Revolver in its current incarnation on the Zealot? I am finally not hating the revolver (still don't like it visually), but I haven't messed with the Heavy Las.

[autumn shadow]

I hear STAGGER

[untold carbon]

But yeah, overall I’m confident that I can do it just need to play better

[hoary owl]

You can also cheese the fight with psykers.

[royal vortex]

yeah, depends what u want it to do

its got better sustained damage and a quick reload

[sterile basalt]

U can stun lock them with VoC + relic after their shields are down
U can even stun lock both of them if they happen to be grouped up together nicely

[spare talon]

i still find it funny that i just throw a stun grenade just so i can reload in a room quite literally filled to the brim with flak and carapace enemies
and that was a good use of the grenade too

[royal vortex]

won't pick a special out of a horde worth a damn unless u can shoot over the horde

but it's a very solid pick

[hoary owl]

How is it versus Crushers?

[royal vortex]

if you chastise it's really good

with blazing piety i was getting 3.3k-ish dps

[spare talon]

GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT

[untold carbon]

I need to remake my build to use that passive

[hoary owl]

Either one just flat out better than the other? I heard mixed things about the newer one.

[royal vortex]

both have the same raw dps

so like, whichever u prefer

i like the new one a lot based just off the vibes

and it hurts less to shoot for a couple matches since i dont use full auto mod

[untold carbon]

Alrighty it’s late for me, I’m heading to bed, night y’all

[royal vortex]

gn

[surreal shore]

i see thx

[autumn shadow]

Don’t let the bedbugs bite

[royal vortex]

the old laspistol synergizes better with infernus, i'd rather run raking fire or ghost on the new one

[dark zealot]

That’s why you keep a flamer next to the bed

[spare talon]

i wouldnt have found much use having that aura on my team for me at least
1 single mine when ive got no toughness drops me down to my 2nd and last wound in terms of corruption

[hoary owl]

lmao fair. But don't you like Raking Fire because you use stealth a lot?

[royal vortex]

there's no reason to bring toughness to that fight so i just strapped on 3hp curios with 3x corruption res

beacon of purity kept me from EVER having a full wound corrupted unless everyone else on my team died and i was the last guy standing (which i suicided anyways cuz u cant win that)

[royal vortex]

nah i hardly really touch stealth. it's just one of the few blessings that actually does something

[dark zealot]

Beacon of purity is a curse

Ever been downed by a trapper where no one can get you?

You take forever to die

[royal vortex]

doesn't matter cuz i will only ever run that aura in orthus

other options are normally just better

[hoary owl]

That's fair.

Alright, I'll mess around with them in Psyk using loadout_config and see if I can imagine myself using one.

[royal vortex]

it gives ur team a lot more breathing room, and effectively increases their HP since most of the damage u take is gonna be from corruption anyways

[hoary owl]

Thanks.

[royal vortex]

godspeed soldier

[dark zealot]

It can help in pubs where they are unaware that a pox hound is slobbering all over you

[royal vortex]

i just feel its application is too niche for general use

in pubs i have to do most of the work the majority of the time since there's still plenty of new players not accustomed to the difficulty yet

[plucky gate]

i haven't really found myself dying to the corruption as much

[royal vortex]

ive legit only died to a hound like once

in the last 1000 hours

[spare talon]

ah yes
the classic
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1169008755720060959/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.30_-_20.46.13.42_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6553d73e&is=6541623e&hm=02605f4b7ab2c3410be49c69d9872a0c5235a2adf10f97df462ca2e6bfbd40d5&

[plucky gate]

more often the melee boss either pushes or chases me into like 10 maulers/ragers

[royal vortex]

and it was when i got hounded across the map from my team on the sycorax end event

cuz they went to rescue a fucking BOT

[plucky gate]

and then i die instantly

[royal vortex]

while i was doing the objective

infuriating

[dark zealot]

This is why I like the shotgun because I can just send a dragons breath round through the entire horde and damage it enough to get it off them

[dense field]

pain

[eternal bolt]

what blessings for ironhelm 1shot build? thrust and brittleness? or thrust and headtaker

[plucky gate]

thrust headtaker or thrust slaughterer

[eternal bolt]

roger, im a heavy sword and fury of the faithful enjoyer so im new to this 1 shot stuff

got my first 1 shot on a plague beast with a green crit damage hammer just didnt record

[dark zealot]

Fury of the faithful makes me less faithful

[eternal bolt]

i was a saltzpyre main in VT2 so i had to throw it back with what i knew

[dark zealot]

I discovered the stealth zealot and from then on I studied the knife

[polar sand]

At least you had a front row seat to watching the guy deal with the horde

[dark zealot]

(Insert the meme)

[eternal bolt]

besides the speed im not a huge fan of the knives

the attack patterns dont click with me for whatever reason, turtolsky mk VI till i die

[spare talon]

you can play a game with this clip
try to guess what moment i let go of the mouse and keyboard to prop up my head with my hand and watch

[dark zealot]

Have you considered… punching heretics in the face?

[celest cave]

you are speaking with a 1900 hours main vet, i can recognize garbage when i see it, the rage is because if i know Fat Shark they won’t do nothing about it untill next big patch, and i will be stuck with this for a long time

i do have the hours, but i’m bad at math, besides i never really understood what power meant, i just assumed it had some other stats along with the damage, but not more damage

i’m still confident that i have enough hours to tell at first glance if veteran got a buff or a nerf however, that i’m sure

i’ve been trough the whole thing since closed beta, since they nerfed my power sword like a month after release, i’m still pissed at it even now that its damage got buffed and never managed to give it a better gameplay

i’m still mad for patch 13 when they removed the reload skill to give it to the ogryn, i used to play whole games never reloading my bolter, i just pressed F when i needed it, and now i’m reduced to spend most of the time reloading as if i were using a shotgun or a revolver, that just won’t do for me

AND NOW they even nerfed the reload speed, compelling me to go for the center path a the start, because you literally can’t play without confirmed kill, and you don’t have enough perk points to get the reload perks because of all the filler perks that does nothing in the central path

maybe another veteran was not influenced by this as much, but as i’ve stated on the beginning it is my veteran that got ruined

[eternal bolt]

i do enjoy that from time to time

[dark zealot]

Not what I meant but I appreciate finding a new meme

[celest cave]

Monkey see, monkey do.

[eternal bolt]

honestly i play veteran plasmagun without reload talents and i do fine (damnation gamer)

whoever posted that originally is gigacoping

[dark zealot]

No you are just built different

[celest cave]

you are speaking with a 1900 hours main vet

[eternal bolt]

1900 of being a gigacoper

just pull out a sword who needs guns anyways

[grave topaz]

Not reading all that good luck to you though bro

[dark zealot]

Not but I genuinely played this s month after release I think

[celest cave]

Thx pal

[grave topaz]

[dense field]

This is peak vet brain

[polar sand]

Wait is that a meme or is that actually what you just wrote LOL

[dark zealot]

Had like 20-40 hours in zealot and was only lvl 26

[spare talon]

found it

[dark zealot]

Thank you

[celest cave]

It's pasta compiled from forum.

From 1 person in topic.

[polar sand]

13/10 meme right there

[dark zealot]

But I’m one of those players that kinda “gave up” on the game

Idk a new talent every 5 levels was kinda lame as heck

And weapon rng

Oh boi

(Also didn’t help i was running the game on a hard drive)

[dark zealot]

What makes it funnier is I have that outfit except I’m missing the gold mask and instead have the black/red one

[royal vortex]

game feels a lot more fun since the talent rework and the general relative balance getting better

[dark zealot]

Absolutely

I even branched out and… tried other classes

I know heresy

But if I smite everything every 5s I’m totalling helping

[torn stream]

I still pretty much only play my Zealot personally. Got a Psyker to 30, didn't jive

Felt too much like a mosquito no matter what weapon I picked, always felt like Psyker's tools were all about getting enemies off them

[thick nacelle]

The emperor aproves your name

[naive fable]

I don't know how folks can only play 1 class. I get bored and switch between classes constantly.

[torn stream]

Thank you

[thick nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/religion-loading-ignorance-gif-19538242

[torn stream]

Simple: I like watching those who have sinned against Him on Terra burn with righteous flames

[thick nacelle]

I know a guy that ONLY plays the veteran

He's one of those call of duty boys

[torn stream]

May they find redemption as the slaughtered ram, proffered for Atoma's salvation

[native cargo]

me in lights out when I catch the trapper

[thick nacelle]

He rushes, die and then rage

[naive fable]

I probably play vet the most but sometimes I just want to run guys over with an Ogryn of chop guys up with an evicerator or use a bunch of space magic on guys.

[thick nacelle]

They want to carry out the game cause they were carried once by a good veteran build, and then they wanna do the same just by assuming its shooting in the heads and reloading before the mag gets empty 💀

[daring belfry]

near godroll?

[torn stream]

Don't have to reload if you internalize Imperial doctrine and fix bayonets

[hoary owl]

My first class was Ogryn and I played over a thousand Damnations with him, during this time I only bothered to play other classes to level them up to 30. When I came back in late October of this year (I stopped playing in late December of last year), I only started playing other classes because I decided to start taking care of the class specific penances, and also I realized that there might be a scenario where I might need something other than the Ogryn. That hasn't happened yet, but hey, it could happen.

[drowsy steppe]

Yes

Since you already switched 1 perk

Are you building this claw for Crits or nah?

[rough galleon]

what does brunt have against shredder

[daring belfry]

yeah its for a piety build

[torn stream]

Note: I have a bad habit of sometimes forgetting to use my ranged weapon so I probably shouldn't be one to talk

[drowsy steppe]

Then just swap out Wrath for Rampage

[thick nacelle]

When was the last zealot build uptdate/upgrade ? If there were any in the past...

[drowsy steppe]

Oh and you don't need crit damage perk

[torn stream]

The overall class rework iirc

[drowsy steppe]

Swap it out for Maniac instead since it covers the dreg ragers and most specialists

[thick nacelle]

So, is it possible that we get another one in the future ?

[naive fable]

I got a friend who plays Psyker most of the time but primarily just runs at guys and melees then with force weapons and uses flame staff. Dude just wants to hack and slash but doesn't play any if the hack and slash classes.

[thick nacelle]

😂

[distant lagoon]

Headtaker + slat or slat/headtaker + thrust for new chaxe?

[torn stream]

What could we stand to gain, realistically? Our current tree's pretty damn great

[thick nacelle]

Agreed, just wanted to know if there were any modification to come

[torn stream]

The one based psyker in the entire galaxy

[hoary owl]

That's literally impossible to know

[thick nacelle]

Ok

[naive fable]

Yeah, I love him.

[distant lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-dog-pet-poke-gif-17835661

[torn stream]

Hey dorf

[spare talon]

Please god take off that crit melee damage

[vestal oyster]

how's zealot doing this patch?

[spare talon]

Just replace it with maniac and throw rampage over wrath

[distant lagoon]

... why the fuck would you put melee crit damage

[torn stream]

Pretty great I'd say

[vestal oyster]

great starting a slot then, need to branch out from psyker

[torn stream]

We're damn near mandatory for Orthus Offensive in my experience, we're just as unkillable as ever

[distant lagoon]

Anyone else having crushes sometimes when talking to melk?

[naive fable]

Zealot is surprisingly well rounded right now IMO.

[torn stream]

[vestal oyster]

i was getting REALLY frustrated

with running psyker in orthus

i just cant make enough of a difference

[distant lagoon]

The fuck that supposed to mean

[vestal oyster]

to make us win

[distant lagoon]

skill issue

also lack of smite issue

[grave topaz]

Smite? Lol just don’t get hit

[vestal oyster]

im starting to think psyker is just not doing too well rn

[torn stream]

I won't judge anyone for having a crush on Melk

[vestal oyster]

deltarune mentioned!?

[torn stream]

jk ofc, I know what you meant

[grave topaz]

I have a crush on howelette

[distant lagoon]

again, skissue

[distant lagoon]

Zola

[thick nacelle]

Brunt so sexy tooo

[distant lagoon]

Brunt is not a person even

[safe latch]

Psyker is definetely strong, I too find it not as suited as other classes might be for the Orthus Offensive but it is definetely strong

[vestal oyster]

ok fine what's your main class

[distant lagoon]

that's like fuckning your PC

[distant lagoon]

Psyker

[sterile schooner]

I cleared the fight with a psyker last night and she contributed great, the bubble saved our lives a lot

[spare talon]

Ogryns have souls

[torn stream]

Not a crush at all but I fervently stan Hadron. I support women's wrongs, in particular the wrongs she will inevitably commit

[naive fable]

I like Hadron.

[distant lagoon]

Brunt is servitor, no?

[spare talon]

I have crushes on the environmental storytelling ogryns

[torn stream]

Brunt is the Ogryn quartermaster

[grave topaz]

She’s just Girlbossing

[spare talon]

No

That's just a servitor

[torn stream]

The servitor is a servitor he bosses around

[torn stream]

[spare talon]

Brunt is the ogryn in charge of all the arms

[thick nacelle]

HE'S AN OGRYN ?

I thought he was a regular human

[torn stream]

We saw Brunt in a cutscene at one point

He put a gun in a box iirc

[spare talon]

Yes
Do you guys not remember the cutscene in patch 13 when you first stopped by the armory

[thick nacelle]

I don't remember

[drowsy steppe]

Headtaker/Thrust and Thunderous

you can 1 shot Crushers with Thunderous

iirc your saw ticks apply brittleness

[torn stream]

Anyway I sleep

[distant lagoon]

you can do it with thrust as well

[polar nexus]

Joke aside, they changed something about reload speed?

[autumn shadow]

Wait then we know at some point in darktide an ogryn has touched a psyker staff

[polar nexus]

20 carapace thrust 4 and rev can one shot a crusher too

[drowsy steppe]

oh yeah, Thunderous also helps immensely against the bosses. Especially the Twins

[celest cave]

No more perks for particular weapon types reload speed iirc. Haven't seen new vet tree tho.

[naive fable]

Vat has 2 reload skills that are very good but almost never get used because they're up against survuval talents and that's usually a better deal. At least in my experience.

[polar nexus]

Way better than patch 14

[distant lagoon]

i am not sure about that...

Have you even tested it

in case of crushers it reduces amount of swings you need to take to kill it by 1 or 2

I very much doubt it gives you more damage than headtaker or slat

[frozen glen]

no we're just pulling stuff out our ass

ofcourse we tested it

[drowsy steppe]

We do a run yesterday with a Thunderous Chainaxe

its still a teamwide damage increase against bosses, since Brittleness isnt a self buff rending

[distant lagoon]

i am pretty sure it is this

[frozen glen]

thats a lot coming from the shit take spewer

[eternal bolt]

a lot of malice players dont like brittleness since it isnt very noticeable there

[opaque hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/it-crowd-go-popcorn-gif-14391028

[distant lagoon]

specifically in case of new chaxe thunderousi s pointless on it

[drowsy steppe]

yes well, everything here is discussed with Damnation in mind

[distant lagoon]

you can already one-shot crushers

No shit

[hoary owl]

Aren't they simply talking about its use versus the Twins?

In which case, Thunderous is very good.

[spark raven]

i havent messed around with Heavy swords how are they?

[red mesa]

the unbreakable forearm

[hidden verge]

about revolver, do I need to headshot + crit to one shot most stuff (except rager and orgyn)?

[eternal bolt]

im personally enjoying turtolsky mk VI, have had a lot of success with this but you do struggle vs carapce armor

maulers and crushers are a pain in the ass with this weapon

[gray ice]

no we're a bunch of malice larpers remember

[fading vale]

did learn yesterday that shattering impact is now useless

[gray ice]

in general or just on bolter because of ADM changes?

[fading vale]

because it's now 4 stacks of 2.5%

[spark raven]

I looked at this for heavy sword https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth

[fading vale]

and not 4 stacks of 5%

[polar nexus]

The it crowd slaps

[gray ice]

what the

[lavish flame]

Rip

[gray ice]

shattering impact wasn't even super good why nerf it now

[fading vale]

well they probably just forgot to change shattering on bolter

after changing rending

[lavish flame]

Ngl shattering is blergh on bolter anyway after the ADM changes

[distant lagoon]

wait, what is rending now?

[fading vale]

16 stacks

of 2.5

brittleness I mean

[fading vale]

I agree but there were still people shouting about it for crushers

and with this.... well

[distant lagoon]

so what would you say about thunderous on chaxes?

[fading vale]

probably also mostly pointless

[onyx current]

it's not something you choose willingly, but it's not a completely dead blessing slot either.

somewhat close though.

[fading vale]

what are the chaxe ADMs

[dapper robin]

just to wonder one question anyone here have a good idea of cosmetic for a zealot pyroman flamathrower maniac psycho ?

[fading vale]

they are already pretty high on most things no

[distant lagoon]

That's what i am saying

But damn i lvoe reworked old chaxe

easily best zealot weapon right now for me

[onyx current]

you don't apply brit stacks for yourself, you do it for the team.

it's a gesture of good will.

[fading vale]

eh, everyone already kills shit fast enough, maybe just for the twins

[onyx current]

ye.

[fading vale]

I can see it for the twins but not much else

[onyx current]

then again, a chaxe zealot will skip the twin into the next phase by himself in 5 seconds tops.

provided team helped him with peeling and shields.

[polar nexus]

What about that bullet you'll save when your reload time is like 4s 😄

[drowsy steppe]

seems to be a pretty standard build

I would take out swift certainty and retributors stance on the bottom right Momentum keystone

[spark raven]

Whats the dumb stat on Heavy swords

[hidden verge]

about fury ability, "your next attack gain 25%" what? 😓

[drowsy steppe]

its Defences

[polar nexus]

25% ordos

You slap, you win

[hidden verge]

really? 😮

is it even possible to gain more ordo without the perk on curio? 🤔

[drowsy steppe]

iirc its a +25% more damage on your next melee hit, and it would also receive a guaranteed crit

how much crit damage youre gonna do depends on the weapon's finesse multipliter

[hidden verge]

thanks

[distant lagoon]

[zealous basin]

WHO

WANTS

TO PLAY

HUNT SHOWDOWN

[drowsy steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/964151226423984138.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[distant lagoon]

your mom

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-hunt-hunt-meme-get-on-hunt-showdown-gif-24553870

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042961211702116394

lets go bitch

[frozen glen]

yea mal

[left iron]

[drowsy steppe]

[zealous basin]

fuck u bitch loser!

im boutta win 1v3v3v3

i dont need u....

[spark raven]

Thats Heavy sword i have useable or not?

[polar nexus]

Yes

[zealous basin]

watch my stream

[grizzled aspen]

that actually brings a question to my mind

why would you want to use a heavy sword

[zealous basin]

cuz its fucks

boring but fucks

[grizzled aspen]

like genuinely why would you use one when chainswords, eviscerators, and thunder hammers exist

[zealous basin]

tru

[polar nexus]

Because it fucks

[zealous basin]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042961211702116394

watch my stream noobs

[polar nexus]

It's braindead gaming

[grizzled aspen]

I am disregarding your opinion because you're a hunt showdown player, thanks for understanding

[zealous basin]

its a good game...

oh guys in ym compoiund

brb

[grizzled aspen]

mk15 evisc is braindead gaming lol

[polar nexus]

It has headtaker, deathblow, rampage, simple but efficient moveset

[polar nexus]

Yeah, I admit it's even more braindead

Except hsword cleaves half Atoma with each slash

[grizzled aspen]

valid

not sure why its cleave is that high

but it is

[spiral anvil]

Brutal momentum

[polar nexus]

It's hard to go wrong with it

[polar nexus]

Yes?

[spiral anvil]

Actually it's called deathblow

[spark raven]

How do Heavy Sword and Evis compare?

[spiral anvil]

Thanks fatshark

Evis has better crusher and boss damage

[celest cave]

Bromentum in disguise.

[spiral anvil]

Heavy sword vs crushers is kinda sad

[spark raven]

I noticed while Playing Knife that im getting overcofident

[grizzled aspen]

hsword is consistent and it's hard to make a bad one, eviscerators are hard to make good because you need specific stuff on them

hsword has a couple handfuls of blessing pairs that work good, evisc has like 1

[polar nexus]

Hsword, without deathblow, has very good cleave and the power blessings just make that even better

[fresh talon]

Hsword kind of like toast, can't go wrong unless you overthink it

[spiral anvil]

True

[zealous basin]

you will play hunt showdown with me

[grizzled aspen]

no it's a bad game

[zealous basin]

its a good game you will play it with me NOW

[grizzled aspen]

it's sweaty and full of gross people

I dont wanna

[zealous basin]

literally just frag them

roll in and click their heads its soooo easy

[grizzled aspen]

roll in
get my head clicked
ape rage

[zealous basin]

watch my stream bro ill show u how its done

[distant lagoon]

anyone else having huge fps drops at this part of the map

[native cargo]

This update has been weirdly stuttering in gameplay. Its only Darktide too so idk what they did. But that map does have a few areas that tank fps a bit

[rigid trellis]

the game's performance has definitely taken a dip since warren 6-19 and the twins ambush event dropped

[zealous basin]

should i play some phonk while i hunt

will that make me hunt bette

r

[safe latch]

Guys I need help with the upgrade path of this shotgun, is no respite absolutely necessary? if yes which perk should i keep?

[distant lagoon]

go to hunt discord

why you discussing ity here

[safe latch]

(For blessings I would likely keep full bore)

[polar nexus]

You can test in the psykanium first

And if you lock full bore you can still go back to fire frenzy

[versed atlas]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/968662066422489138/1185169905008529408/image.png?ex=658ea27c&is=657c2d7c&hm=3d4d2c57c1193d72580f831376e8b44a433030668a98bbadde16707028fa6b2c&

[safe latch]

Thanks, I mostly wanted to know if I could switch both perks or No Respite was the superior choice

How can I try it tho? Is it a mod or?

[zealous basin]

cuz this is a better place to discuss it duh

keep up

[polar nexus]

So there's a mod to do that

[open echo]

hadron finally did something good?

[polar nexus]

#1048318548180738118 message

I would keep reload speed I think, it's the only way for a zealot to reload faster except if you take the only talent in the middle tree

[open echo]

also, good eg or not?

[polar nexus]

Hit n run to no respite

Probably WP DMG to flak

[open echo]

ig