the cloth i got the head
#zealot-class
graceful musk
zinc talon
well two things to note about smite pushing
ornate bone
the cloth i got the head
its in the shop right now
graceful musk
its in the shop right now
alr
zinc talon
if it's not shivering in place, it won't push
and if you hit 100% peril and bounce off, you won't push either
fleet zealot
Kantrael shotgun can 2 shot special against both snipers, bulwarks, and bombers
ripe quest
Yeah
fleet zealot
And function as a mini flamer
zinc talon
but you will push right clicking for basically a singel shot attack
hold RMB, let charge, press left click, repeat
fleet zealot
That also has a normal round that you can use for burst damage
zinc talon
your smite will jump once maybe twice in that time period
as long as you're not hitting max peril smite will push when you release
ornate bone
sweet home alabama
zinc talon
(if they're electrocuted and rooted in place)
so what you can do is hold rmb
and then trigger pull left mouse a time or two
fleet zealot
So kanty SG does a bit weaker at what flamer is good at but it doesnt have any of the weaknesses
zinc talon
getting chunks of the crowd each time
ripe quest
wdym
fleet zealot
I like old chaxe better
ripe quest
both have their qualities.
copper hawk
For new fight
fleet zealot
You can spam lights on the brother and take him down in a split second
fleet zealot
W... thunderous
zinc talon
also, surge staff can be a good choice because no matter what you think you're doing, you're not killing elites fast enough for the tank to keep sword lady away while you pop her shields then nuke dudebro
maulers and crushers need to be dead before they spawn
especially on hard mode
fleet zealot
Surge staff even fixed is lack luster
zinc talon
so elite delete is arguably more important than anything else
fleet zealot
It really was only balanced when it was bugged
zinc talon
what I mean is
ripe quest
Oh for the twins, I use Mk IV since I'm still waiting for a solid Mk XII. On paper you could chunk the shit out of a twin with the Mk XII since I think you can use the 1 shot thing for them
copper hawk
Brain burst
fleet zealot
Void does elite deletion better
copper hawk
W the enhanced blitz
zinc talon
bring something that is very capable of quick one and two tap elite kills
copper hawk
And trauma stagg
zinc talon
sure, bring that then
copper hawk
Staff*
fleet zealot
Surge nexus void is ridic
fleet zealot
I wish surge staff deleted
viral zodiac
Are there any special rewards for completing Hard Mode?
zinc talon
so the tank splitting off the sword lady
fleet zealot
That one patch
zinc talon
can regen his toughness without cohesion
fleet zealot
Where it was receiving bonuses meant for smite
viral zodiac
So bragging rights lol
zinc talon
also @vestal oyster third thing, bubble
zinc talon
dropping a bubble at or near the center of the room gives the tank toughness regen while he may or may not be in cohesion
while he's holding sword lady away from the team
vestal oyster
also <@260062420125351937> third thing, bubble
so bubble smite build is the way to go? with voidstaff too?
viral zodiac
How's the Zealot cloak build with Thunderhammer against the Twins?
fleet zealot
I dont care how helpful it is I’m running venting shriek
zinc talon
I would definitely try that out and see how your team benefits
I run that build you just listed p[retty exclusively on my psucker
ornate bone
i wasted 2 hours of my life watching this chat . i regret it ... very much. i shal go kiss my wife and lay in bed wondering what led to this worst of timelines
fleet zealot
Vent has saved my hide from my own stupidity and it’s massive knockback
Or using vent to keep my current smite going
vestal oyster
i wish there was a clear meta build to go for, my resources are still so limited
zinc talon
all I'll say to your point Az, is one twin's shield takes massively less damage from ranged, the other less from melee
ripe quest
How's the Zealot cloak build with Thunderhammer against the Twins?
It'll chunk them from what I saw.
fleet zealot
Iirc if you using vent at like 89% while channeling smite you dont break the channel
exotic portal
whats the best kelee weapon?
They say the knife is the most dangerouse weapon in the world.
fleet zealot
whats the best kelee weapon?
There is no objective answer
I need to make one of the mmo spreadsheets
smoky pewter
Okay, how spot the safe zones in the karnak twins fight?
fleet zealot
That has questions that guides people to their weapon
Basically all melees are more than viable besides taxe and old knife kinda in this neutral hell area
The most powerful weapon would be one you enjoy
zinc talon
aw
hidden nacelle
Okay, how spot the safe zones in the karnak twins fight?
a vent will open in the ceiling theres gonna be a giant spot light pretty hard to miss
zinc talon
I was leaving info out for the youngins to leave some intrigue to it
hidden nacelle
then the next vent will always be on the other side of it
zinc talon
I think tonight I'm gonna spend some time quick playing tier 4 and 5 regular fights just to babysit youngins through the fight and say enough to make thenm all hyped up about it
fleet zealot
Does this mean the treaty between oggy and femboy chat is broken?
median steeple
that new bolter skin got me acting unwise
zinc talon
I uh
fleet zealot
New bolter skin and they didnt even buff bolter last patch
fleet zealot
Smh fatshark dont you want to make money
median steeple
yeah ha ha ha
zinc talon
imagine, I bet you some asshole has like every cosmetic in the game
could you imagine
gross blegh
fleet zealot
Everyone knows, buff weapons when they get new cosmetics
median steeple
I just want specific sets which are prob never gonna happen
fleet zealot
I only have what i bought with the imperial edition aquilas
Back when i upgraded cause it was on sale on steam in october
onyx jolt
chorus sucks on the boss rush map
median steeple
what
onyx jolt
i finally was forced to try a thammer stealth build
fleet zealot
chorus sucks on the boss rush map
Yes and no
median steeple
it stun locks the twins lmao
fleet zealot
If it is consistently sucking either your team is bad and cant follow up
onyx jolt
it stun locks the twins lmao
not consistently enough on damnation mode
zinc talon
fleet zealot
Or you are bad and dont have crit cdr
zinc talon
who would do that....
median steeple
not consistently enough on damnation mode
it does do it consistently though?
onyx jolt
If it is consistently sucking either your team is bad and cant follow up
that's the main issue lol, i use it and the horde still exists after i use it
onyx jolt
it does do it consistently though?
from what i've seen, it does it every other pulse, but some moves from the twins push through it somehow
fleet zealot
that's the main issue lol, i use it and the horde still exists after i use it
Thats just a chorus/support tool issue
clear knot
metics in this game feel better to buy than they do in destiny and personally, thats all i care baout
so
zinc talon
well I will say
viral zodiac
that's the main issue lol, i use it and the horde still exists after i use it
Do you teammates go off and look for crafting materials while Chorus stuns the mob? lol
fleet zealot
A good chorus zealot helps a ton especially during the gas phase
zinc talon
inflation's gettin real on these price points
at first a lil over $30 would get you all 4 outfits, more for the accessory items
fleet zealot
Granted good isnt common in pubs
onyx jolt
A good chorus zealot helps a ton especially during the gas phase
oh yeah it definitely shines there, but otherwise my teammates can't even solo one of the bosses
zinc talon
today, I started with 2900 aquilas banked and bought 7000 more, three times
onyx jolt
i had a lvl 19 hop on with his buddy as well, so it seems that some low levels are trying to get carried
median steeple
I literally keep 900 aquilas on me at all times so I only have to pay 10$ for full sets
zinc talon
and I got everything for all 4 classes, with 3100 aquilas left over
fleet zealot
Thats why i dont run chorus/smite outside of premades or a full moon where I feel like being a team player with randoms
zinc talon
so it was 20,000 aquilas, bit more, for all 4 store pages this time
onyx jolt
Thats why i dont run chorus/smite outside of premades or a full moon where I fee...
yeah i'm starting to realize that now lol
ornate bone
so it was 20,000 aquilas, bit more, for all 4 store pages this time
buy ramen instead
onyx jolt
but stealth zealot build is super fun
median steeple
I use smite and chorus no matter what but sometimes you have to be very selfish with them
onyx jolt
i'm having fun with it (i will never use knives)
zinc talon
naw I'm blessed with respect to my financials
fleet zealot
Vet on the other hand? Vet shout is the only ability i run but i loved merc captain so bias
median steeple
since if people cant follow up its useless
zinc talon
and I am a 40k simp and have been for 20+ years
ornate bone
I'mma toss the take I force myself to toss each time chorus is mentioned
What a fucking boring ability, man
median steeple
If Scion skins drop I will spend as much money that is needed
zinc talon
and, fatshark cosmetics are downright amazing in their design
onyx jolt
I'mma toss the take I force myself to toss each time chorus is mentioned
what does this sentence even mean
median steeple
all I want is tempestus scions
zinc talon
all this to say if I can donate to the cause buying stuff on the store, it's already mine
ornate bone
You stop shooting and meleeing in the game about shooting and meleeing to go "look at my funny symbol" for several seconds
zinc talon
I'm not a whale, I'm a kraken
zinc talon
it's a great tool when used offensively instead of to cc and save the team
fleet zealot
yeah i'm starting to realize that now lol
Tldr mid team syndrome. If your team is bad enough to not capitalize on your support, you are basically just stalling as the horde gets more dense. With the great top tier teams, you are just making it slightly easier, but they would’ve been just fine no matter what
zinc talon
that's why I like its duration
onyx jolt
You stop shooting and meleeing in the game about shooting and meleeing to go "lo...
but it's a consistent stunlock which is useful when teammates actually capitalize on it
zinc talon
you can activate at a room threshold and charge to the other side cowering the whole room
and then your team comes in behind and cleans the room up
fleet zealot
Support abilities help this gray area of mediocre players and while that will win you a lot of pubs, will also lose you some
median steeple
I use chorus to uber buff my toughness to get revives
onyx jolt
Tldr mid team syndrome. If your team is bad enough to not capitalize on your sup...
mhm, i've been looking for a team recently to play harder stuff with, i won't pretend i'm the best player in the world, but at least i don't go down if i brush a horde
zinc talon
it also jostles bosses as well
may not 'stun' them
but you can say, ledge demons when timed right
smoky pewter
The twins - is that a time limited mission?
fleet zealot
Imo stealth is better for revives
median steeple
even the best players can be obliterated by the smallest ant
fleet zealot
Chorus ends if you go for the revive
zinc talon
unknown Azrhi but I doubt it
onyx jolt
Imo stealth is better for revives
true, because you can actually secure it instead of waiting on team
smoky pewter
Stealth good for revives and objectives both
zinc talon
I run bible thump/corruption eater/stun grenades on my zealot
I am unironically a DND heavy armor priest
it's a blast to play the role
delicate shadow
The twins - is that a time limited mission?
not time limited unless something changes down the line
ornate bone
but it's a consistent stunlock which is useful when teammates actually capitaliz...
I'm not disputing its effectiveness, which is honestly awesome
It's just that I don't wanna be the one using it because it bores me to death
smoky pewter
feel really powerful with it, opposite of boring
ornate bone
It's kinda like healing in MMOs
zinc talon
that's exactly what I meant earlier red
ornate bone
It's good, it's helpful, but I'd rather do big numbers and watch things ragdoll
zinc talon
I am preeszt
zinc talon
yknow your perspective and mine pair beautifully in a 2 zealot team
royal vortex
not time limited unless something changes down the line
now that i have my drip i need them to permanently remove the orthus offensive
zinc talon
your going crazy takes pressure off me to always be killing
and I can keep a more exacting eye on when I should be stepping in to give yall breathing room
the only thing I have to deal with at that point is scoreboard betamales who look at me revive them four times in a mission
then talk shit because my damage is lower than theirs
ornate bone
zinc talon
bitch without me you'd have no damage
clear knot
then talk shit because my damage is lower than theirs
i largely relax and loot in missions now and if i need to ill go fuck around in a horde or smth. its not as black n white as that but, i got plasteel to loot bbg
woeful pecan
How should I modify this? Run n' Gun to Surgical and Infested to Maniac?
ornate bone
*bitch without me you'd have **no** damage*
people still use betamales as a insult nowadays? aint that something after the gender wars 2022
ripe quest
Wrong, they aim for max plasteel gained.
ornate bone
your going crazy takes pressure off me to always be killing
It's hard for me to get a match with knife where I don't get most ranged elites
And one with revolver where I don't get most specials
ornate bone
Wrong, they aim for max plasteel gained.
only thing that truly matters hehe xD
I tunnel vision on anything that requires mobility or a cleaving shot
drowsy anchor
out of memory bug still jappening huh
verbal escarp
How should I modify this? Run n' Gun to Surgical and Infested to Maniac?
whats your melee?
woeful pecan
whats your melee?
XV Heavy Evis
ripe quest
If only the ordo docket bug was still around
clear knot
thats crazy
verbal escarp
XV Heavy Evis
i'd keep run and gun but switch the infested
verbal escarp
revolvers are better when you can stay mobile
ornate bone
Sometimes I'm not feeling the mojo, but when I get it going I'm just chaining headshots on shooters, doing 180s on them if I overshoot the sprint, slide dodging, it's some absolute cocaine squirrel gameplay
woeful pecan
revolvers are better when you can stay mobile
Fair. I'll move it to Maniac, because I hate all of them.
zinc talon
crude lake
chainsword still feels pretty good
zinc talon
Sometimes I'm not feeling the mojo, but when I get it going I'm just chaining he...
stealing this gameplay behavior description
verbal escarp
Fair. I'll move it to Maniac, because I hate all of them.
mainly good for ragers
nova python
Just hit 30 for the first time. how do I go about chasing that sweet sweet end game gearing?
verbal escarp
since you can get easily overwhelmed using evis
zinc talon
bleek did you save your crafting materials
nova python
I did
ornate bone
I pride myself in accurate descriptions
woeful pecan
since you can get easily overwhelmed using evis
Yup, I agree. Though XV does stagger Damnation Maulers, so that's nice. Thanks for the advice.
zinc talon
but don't orange curios that aren't 15+ or more toughness and 20+ or more health
you can change two of the three perks on them
what class/build are you?
nova python
Currently, Zealot, Knife, Shroud, but open to changing, just was easiest for levelling
zinc talon
right on
my bible thump/corruption/stun grenade priest healer zealot I run most often runs two toughness curios, and 1 +1 wound
for you right now I would say you want one 20 or 21% health, one 15-17% toughness, and 1 +1 wound curio to orange
to give you a broad starting basis
ornate bone
ur at 9311 msg send in this discord. party at 10k ? will you be bringing cake for everybody?
zinc talon
your perks to be screening for are gunner and sniper damage resist, then bomber resist and toughness regeneration speed, then other more role specific bonuses
a thing to note about toughness regen
that stat on the curio, not only increases the rate your bar refills, but lowers the delay before it begins to refill after being hit
and it also pairs with loner if that's ever your thing
north sedge
It only affects coherencey which is minimal value at best on zealot
zinc talon
the wound curio is almost mandatory especially just hitting 30 in tier 4 and 5 missions
because you lose one natural wound at those ranks, so you'd be showing up with just two wounds
ornate bone
If only the ordo docket bug was still around
ur only at 17671 msg send in this discord. you win* the nerd battle
zinc talon
you lose half your health to 1 ko and are dead on the second, instead of one third health and two wuupsies before dying
crude lake
I don’t use wound curios, I think there are a lot that don’t use them
zinc talon
sure, but this guy's freshly rank 30
crude lake
That’s fair
zinc talon
I'm giving him curio equipment to take him the furthest on the lowest plasteel usage
ripe quest
ur only at 17671 msg send in this discord. you win* the nerd battle
We are balling.
rugged arch
One thing about wounds is, having more wounds actually makes med stims LESS effective
zinc talon
you can reslot the other two, to also have 20% damage resist to other enemy types
so you can have potentially 60% damage resist to three enemy types, hypothetically
you can also put 20% damage resist of the same type, on each of your 3 curios
jsut can't have more than one per curio
rugged arch
Are the resist % numbers additive?
ornate bone
We are balling.
u got nothing on him though
ripe quest
To add, small note, it'll be like 48% DR.
zinc talon
good god
ripe quest
For each.
nova python
Ive got a green 20% hp. Blue 15% toughness (with ordo docket +), blue wounds with 15% gunner resist
readily available*
ripe quest
Are the resist % numbers additive?
They're each a 0.8x damage modifier multiplied together.
zinc talon
incriminating evidence exhibit two
ripe quest
u got nothing on him though
I don't need to have nerd battles with him though so we are in the clear.
zinc talon
almost reluctant to show yall my hours played, but who cares here goes
I'd tell yall to take bets but people have seen the amount previously so could easily guesstimate
stiff mirage
at least 4
ripe quest
2700
zinc talon
halcyon elbow
ello! i've been wondering, what knife is overall better?
ornate bone
mk3 is still my favorite, but people also like the mk6
halcyon elbow
so up to personal preference then?
ornate bone
107 days ....
rugged arch
107 days ....
How do you not have carpal tunnel
ripe quest
I think the intent is that the Mk VI is better at horde clear, but they both kinda just do the same thing which is single target focused damage.
zinc talon
heh in the beforetimes I was a practicing chiropractor
I guess I just know how to hold my mouse and position my kb to avoid it
nova python
That's how they rolled up.
ornate bone
ripe quest
300 hours of solo rapier Saltz gameplay in V2 prepared me for Darktide.
halcyon elbow
ngl i really like the skins atm in the shop
zinc talon
a lot of those hours are idling in the grinder, cuz you've never had an inactivity timer while in there
yep, the launcher also counts as played time to steam
so just leaving the launcher up will add hours
ripe quest
I have ~940 hours and my highest level character just hit 100.
I blame me trying so hard to play solo
zinc talon
but that's 624 overlevels or so
so I have run a job or two
likely close to a thousand missions all said
lessee
think I need 90 more operative revives to flesh out the 500 penance
rugged arch
ngl i really like the skins atm in the shop
I'd like the zealot one a lot if it didn't have those goofy candles on the shoulders
ornate bone
think I need 90 more operative revives to flesh out the 500 penance
2 pub games
nova python
think I need 90 more operative revives to flesh out the 500 penance
I can die.... lmao
rugged arch
Investigation and repair 👀
zinc talon
royal vortex
they released a disruption map i like to play and it has shot up in runs completed for me
zinc talon
yeah 1200 missions run, foof
royal vortex
now we need investigation/repair
rugged arch
I refuse to pay attention to those penances tbh, I'm NOT getting dragged into hab dreyko more times than needed lol
royal vortex
i just warren had a different mid event
zinc talon
I enjoy hab dreyko all said and done
royal vortex
the end sequence is the best in the game
the mid event is just painfully boring
i want to like hab dreyko but like half my runs end in server crashes
at the end event
zinc talon
huh
only crash issues I've had have been the out of memory instant crash in that video just linked
I've heard other people say that
rugged arch
the mid event is just painfully boring
Yeah my main beef with it is the mid event, I really don't enjoy it
The end event is fun now that it's been spiced up a bit
royal vortex
the end event could do with just a bit less "20 naked ragers in the showers at ram ranch" shit
zinc talon
I like the claustrophobic nature of the rooms and all the doors and whatnot
it's a quality map layout at least
plus now they've let snipers get up into the rafters
royal vortex
i wish this game wasn't powercrept to the point you have to have 20 of the same elite for any of them to be threatening
ornate bone
ive met a azreal in everygame ive ever played Gmod azreal was a real Shi*head
League azreal was a ok midlaner
royal vortex
sycorax is really fun all around
ornate bone
garrys mod. yeah
royal vortex
was my favorite map when they released it up until the carnival stuff
zinc talon
sycorax airlock segment is a rare bit of game design that gets more and more fun each time you do it
that whole map is just god tier game design to me
ornate bone
holy shi. plot twist all of them were you
royal vortex
i like mercantile (first carnival map) the most now
zinc talon
when I'm on okri I taunt push the entire way and let the team kill a couple steps behind me
royal vortex
unless you sit at the entrance during the end event, then it's boring as all hell
but i've had a lot of fun just running around that area
exotic portal
new penance for completing 1000 auric missions
native cargo
Auric!?!?!
zinc talon
since I run (yeah shut up I know your thoughts on it) a +3 stamina curio and 1 block eff/2 stam regens in my curio trio I have enough pips to rythmically push the entire distance from airlock to airlock
exotic portal
Maelstrom?
hardy surge
since I run (yeah shut up I know your thoughts on it) a +3 stamina curio and 1 b...
a stamina curio is a solid choice
zinc talon
heh I wasn't digging at you az, just talking to the room
I'm used to saying stuff especially in ogryn chat that gets me just
exotic portal
heh I wasn't digging at you az, just talking to the room
royal vortex
map really likes dumping a shit ton of ragers on you outta nowhere so a couple bad spawns and people will fold
nah that's a default name
u probs haven't
royal vortex
fairly sure its not me considering ive ran cosmetics that cover the hair up for quite a long while
and ive hardly played pubs in the last 6 months
~90% of my games are in premades
native cargo
Liar you pub aurics regularly I know because I am in your hard drive
red mesa
josho nice clutch there,
whats the perfect/exact peril mod again?
native cargo
Josho. I can't believe you lie
red mesa
i dont use that, maybe i should try it
royal vortex
dude fk pub aurics lmao too many idiots who can't handle 2 ragers
royal vortex
josho nice clutch there,
whats the perfect/exact peril mod again?
trueperil. think its not patched anymore and i think perilgauge is better but i cba to update
native cargo
I can't handle one rager they got that dominant vibe
exotic portal
dude fk pub aurics lmao too many idiots who can't handle 2 ragers
Gotta get em penances thou, 1000 auric missions no?
red mesa
trueperil. think its not patched anymore and i think perilgauge is better but i ...
cool, i see peril gauge here but looked like true peril was still working. but ty
royal vortex
1.8 million damage requires u to play a single match longer than i am ever willing to
what game type
native cargo
I did 1.8 million damage on a hot dog once
royal vortex
ive gotten 1 million in 25 in a premade using kickback gunlugger before the min pellet count change
red mesa
just about 1mil is my max, nowhere near 1.8 lol
royal vortex
worst bug ive had was 2 ppl at the end of a hishock smelter dying and getting sent back to start
delicate shadow
my peak is about 800k, also farming poxwalkers for numbers is meaningless padding lmao
royal vortex
had to do the rest of the event as a 2 man
zinc talon
if yall aren't playing the game most live enemies pushed into the center hole at the end wins you're simply not playing the level correctly
red mesa
and that i think was an all melee, all scab modifier, and i was carrying hard on trauma psyker. like only one alive multiple times having to clutch lmao
royal vortex
was annoying
royal vortex
my peak is about 800k, also farming poxwalkers for numbers is meaningless paddin...
it's funny
at least
delicate shadow
that's tru
exotic portal
my peak is about 800k, also farming poxwalkers for numbers is meaningless paddin...
Push & shove
royal vortex
also good for the penance if u dont have it
my last 50k kills were kickback ogryn
lost half my iq points doing it
zinc talon
kickback will make you think less in combat, it's true
use it for too long and you're just not doing things you used to
red mesa
its so fun lol kickback go brrr
royal vortex
i love how the ammo disparity between kickback and rumbler grows every ogryn balance patch
native cargo
Lmao
polar nexus
batman?
exotic portal
native cargo
The kickback will probably rip your entire torso off if you can even lift it
minor sage
zinc talon
oh incidentally since you sparked the memory
ragers these last cpl days are remarkably easier to shield push
royal vortex
p14 kickback gunlugger with a surv vet was the dumbest possible shit
exotic portal
royal vortex
only been mildly reigned in because fire rounds aren't bugged
zinc talon
I can straight bully naked ragers now, and flak ragers aren't much tougher
royal vortex
and the min pellet count nerf
zinc talon
I don't use it simply because of how immediately OMGMINMAX people make it out to be
I get it, it straight erases groups of enemies
royal vortex
the ammo count on the fuckin thing is absurd
zinc talon
but the weapon is not as broadly speaking useful as others are
royal vortex
56 with +25%, 47 otherwise iirc
definitely shouldn't have almost as much ammo as a kant shotgun lmao
hollow ember
hmm for MK15 Evi people, how the hell do u handle pack of maulers or ragers? When i Used heavy special attack it one shots but the last tick that is and the other ragers/maulers in pack will hit u during that
and if u cancel that animation and dodge u will not get that last tick
zinc talon
well, that depends on the mission being run and what special challenges it has
that's what I mean, it's generically really effective but it serves no additional purpose beyond BOOM. DEYS DED
native cargo
Yes need brrrr they ded
zinc talon
you're not bringing kickbacks to mostly melee mostly dreg missions I hope
zinc talon
when half the mission enemies are crushers?
royal vortex
no because you bring rumbler gunlugger with an ammo vet and just carpet bomb everything
zinc talon
bold
native cargo
...yes
spiral anvil
hmm for MK15 Evi people, how the hell do u handle pack of maulers or ragers? Whe...
Chastise to stagger, that's two dead
royal vortex
no reason to run anything else on ogryn
zinc talon
sure there is
spiral anvil
Then pull out your gun 
zinc talon
the gun is boring
hollow ember
Then pull out your gun <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
what gun do u use for pack of maulers/ragers?
royal vortex
can't talk about something not being effective in a certain mode then pivot to fun smh
lost trail
hmm for MK15 Evi people, how the hell do u handle pack of maulers or ragers? Whe...
Generally, I don't use the special attack but use a combination of lights, heavies, and push -> attack (which for the mk 15, is a nice stab) Do what you think is best in the moment or what feels right
royal vortex
i'll put all the crushers on their ass and deal no damage if i damn well please
zinc talon
I'm a shield/gauntlet afficionado myself
zinc talon
the single target damage is excellent and the OHSHIT crowd control is almost unparalleled
spiral anvil
But flamer needs you to pull it out before they reach you
hollow ember
i see, ty
lost trail
you're so kind, giving him a ride!
native cargo
With crusher I can push attack to lift an enemy a bit and slap em back down cus the next attack is at a downward arc. Very fun to do mid horde lmao
zinc talon
plus, blaze away is an awesome blessing
hollow ember
yea 1 rager or mauler i can deal with but I tried multiple in the training ground and it gets hectic and inefficient
zinc talon
since it's only for melee swings
you don't even have to hit something to build stacks, you can swing at the air
iron seal
GG needs brunt recolord for dockets.
zinc talon
the only thing the gauntlet lacks is push and block
hollow ember
ragers have insane range on their melees that kiting seems meh with MK15 long heavy special animation, but i guess i need a gun for a pack
zinc talon
that's what you give up for a melee weapon that shoots armor nuking crowd clearing explosives
if you want a god tier good time and have weapons customization mod
slap a flashlight on your grenade gauntlet and sacrifice the falcon punch for a melee weapon with a light source
and run lights out missions using just one weapon
gauntlet only lights out
spiral anvil
ragers have insane range on their melees that kiting seems meh with MK15 long he...
It's a losing battle to try and fight more than two at once
zinc talon
it is a blast
spiral anvil
Without chastise
native cargo
What about putting wheels on it and making it like a roomba
hollow ember
It's a losing battle to try and fight more than two at once
yea that seems to be the case
native cargo
Gauntlet roomba
zinc talon
well remember ragers take very little stamina to block comparatively speaking
you can very easily simply soak their combos until you get a chance to start yourself
ripe quest
It's not quite as combo-y but I have always enjoyed the Thammer ragdolls in a similar way.
spiral anvil
Yea block, dodge back, gun
zinc talon
they also push much more reliably than they used to
hardy surge
hmm for MK15 Evi people, how the hell do u handle pack of maulers or ragers? Whe...
so, when it comes to ragers, revolver does very good. if they are focusing on you it is easy to land headshots. But not so great for maulers in my opinion. using something like the colum 5 works fine. In the current twins boss I brought the graia 4 because it can drop a lot of them in one clip, but gun has a few drawbacks in normal missions. Shotgun is great, specially the one with the slug. when running shotgun I always have 1 slug in. if a pack arrives, first slug to the face drops the first rager and gives you full bore to dispose of the rest. same with maulers. only drawback is it takes forever to reload. but in a tight spot if you can't do a full reload just loading and shooting slugs is quite powerful.
zinc talon
It's not quite as combo-y but I have always enjoyed the Thammer ragdolls in a si...
heh the crusher will do this pretty well too on its push attack since it's a bottom left upper right swing
zinc talon
so, when it comes to ragers, revolver does very good. if they are focusing on yo...
all valid
I will say though
graduating to hard mode twins fights, you get a ton of crushers and maulers as the horde elites
the bolter very quickly becomes one of just a few choices to bring to handle them
spiral anvil
I would bring crusher
hollow ember
so, when it comes to ragers, revolver does very good. if they are focusing on yo...
ty for the generous answer
zinc talon
I know how yall feel about the bolter in its current state but try bringing it next time you're doing the twins with your buddies in squad
hollow ember
yea seems like i need to experiment with guns, I have been neglecting them a lot with zealot
zinc talon
oh speaking of I have a couple tips and tricks concerning the bolter I laid out yesterday or day before, I'll link yall the start of the monologuing
spiral anvil
Bolter on zealot?
zinc talon
yis
polar nexus
@royal vortex
spiral anvil
Isit cavalcade memes
polar nexus
fuck crusher
royal vortex
<@445566734255259648>
pog
zinc talon
thread begins here
hardy surge
the bolter very quickly becomes one of just a few choices to bring to handle the...
yeah, in my hard mode clear a plasma vet was dedicated to handling all that while I was dealing with trash and doing the big hits on the bosses
opaque island
I guess i never paid that much attention to it, does each mission only have specific types of enemies, or is there a way to tell?
zinc talon
I've never played a veteran, ever, so I know absolutely fuckall about the class itself but man do I always feel good seeing a plasma gun in the hands of a teammate
zinc talon
I guess i never paid that much attention to it, does each mission only have spec...
the desert maps generally have more yellow robe guys, the inner city slum maps typically the armored grey guys
it's only truly one or the other in maelstrom melee only map types
surreal shore
guys???
does
chastise not give ranged attack
damage anymore???
like ranged armor pen?
why isnt my flamer deleting crushers anymore???
ripe quest
so, when it comes to ragers, revolver does very good. if they are focusing on yo...
I might get obliterated by Lazorr for recommending it but I do seriously recommend trying Scattershot/Man Stopper on Agri shotgun. It will turn a rager pack into paste, and with how scattershot stacks it'll be up most of the time.
zinc talon
why isnt my flamer deleting crushers anymore???
how long ago were you using this technique? there's been a couple changes to both flamer and charge
the las pistol crusher delete still works great I think, I'll check real quick
ripe quest
chastise not give ranged attack
The duration was reduced but it should still work.
hardy surge
I might get obliterated by Lazorr for recommending it but I do seriously recomme...
that's a nice combo you got there. I'll have to try it out
red mesa
why isnt my flamer deleting crushers anymore???
build up some flame stacks first, then chastise helps
steep hollow
10 minutes of random rolls
left iron
Poors 
steep hollow
down from 3.8 mil. how?
zinc talon
polar nexus
I might get obliterated by Lazorr for recommending it but I do seriously recomme...
On Agri or law?
hardy surge
Have you noticed that if you manage to kill one of the twins before last gas phase the game says "screw you" and spawns it after gas anyway?
red mesa
heard some people mention "since this is a perma event"
does anyone really think they will just keep this twins thing around forever? i feel like no way they will
polar nexus
They will keep them until they have a replacement
red mesa
but would be cool if they did, and added more and more over time and had a whole "special missions" section that built up with challenges to play
ripe quest
On Agri or law?
Agri. If you want the Unyielding damage Lawby is better for it.
I think Scattershot/Man Stopper would work for Lawby if you aren't hitting weakspot hits as much.
It also makes the special shot a lawnmower which is fun.
surreal shore
build up some flame stacks first, then chastise helps
i see thx
polar nexus
Yeah, but how do you use it? Load a slug and pray that the ragers form a line?
I use no respite scattershot on lawbringer
ripe quest
No, you use the primary fire in that situation.
polar nexus
And I admit dabbling with fléchettes on Kant
Ok but how does that make the Agri different from the lawyer?
hardy surge
yeah, no slug. I'm pretty sure the idea is to burst out the whole clip on the pack
clever zealot
Whats the new laspistol about?
polar nexus
More finesse on primary?
ripe quest
Flechette being bugged for the Kant fire shot is so sadge
ripe quest
More finesse on primary?
It'll do like 10-15% less than Kant on a proper finesse hit.
I have the math buried somewhere.
clever zealot
Whats the new laspistol about?
also the new evis, whats the difference?
hardy surge
Whats the new laspistol about?
new lapistol: higher damage, lower RoF
polar nexus
Flechette being bugged for the Kant fire shot is so sadge
Yeah but I did lie 100k of burning and bleed once in a run
Ok, I would have been more efficient just meleeing
hardy surge
new evis: light attack horizontal for horde clear, heavy attack straight vertical
ripe quest
Yeah but I did lie 100k of burning and bleed once in a run
It's most likely 95% burn damage. Flechette only bleeds the first enemy hit by the fire round.
zinc talon
why isnt my flamer deleting crushers anymore???
^
ripe quest
It's most likely 95% burn damage. Flechette only bleeds the first enemy hit by t...
This is slightly different if you're using Flechette/Man Stopper since a crit fire round will proc bleed on all enemies hit.
zinc talon
I'm prolly doing it incorrectly but the problem here seems to be the time needed to open the valve to shoot
spiral anvil
Yeap
zinc talon
handy bit of info I just stumbled over
open the valve, then charge, and your valve will be open
when you cancel
north sedge
you can chastise while actively firing
polar nexus
It's most likely 95% burn damage. Flechette only bleeds the first enemy hit by t...
It was more 80/20 iirc
zinc talon
then reload, then charge while firing
polar nexus
I'll find you the scoreboard later
zinc talon
the damage just isn't there vs the laspistol
north sedge
can you las pistol an entire pack?
polar nexus
This is slightly different if you're using Flechette/Man Stopper since a crit fi...
Fuck I need that. I tested no respite flechette and flechette scattershot only
north sedge
An entire pack?
distant maple
Yall is the new cadian assault chainsword good? Or is the new chainaxe better (yes I know the new evisc is op shush)
zinc talon
clever zealot
new evis: light attack horizontal for horde clear, heavy attack straight vertica...
sounds nice
zinc talon
the new 1h chainsword has really impressive combo looping potential
spiral anvil
Yall is the new cadian assault chainsword good? Or is the new chainaxe better (y...
I actually think the new chainaxe is better than the evis
ripe quest
Yall is the new cadian assault chainsword good? Or is the new chainaxe better (y...
New Chaxe is better for assassination bosses, new Evis is better for Unyielding bosses. They both obliterate elites, but Chaxe imo has a faster profile for it, old Chaxe with light spam will ruin elites as well. New Chainsword does light spam a bit better and is otherwise just a moveset remix of the original with higher single target damage.
distant maple
I had a feeling the new axe was better
hardy surge
I actually think the new chainaxe is better than the evis
new chaxe slaps. Did twins hard with that baby.
ripe quest
Old Chaxe has better crowd damage than the new one.
vestal coyote
New chain axe is good? Shit, I may need to try one finally
zinc talon
I have more fun with the axe hands down, but the new eviscerator can be a real utilitarian role filler with its selection of blessings
distant maple
I'm still gonna main the old chainsword honestly until an evisc skin is out (idk weapon skins is appealing to me)
vestal coyote
yeah I am glad I got my lame tiger skin for it when it was around
Since they haven't put any up since
zinc talon
new evis is probably reliably higher damage on the scoreboard at mission end, if that's a priority to you
distant maple
But the new chaxe defo gonna use it for the twins until I get my champion insignia
zinc talon
it is not TIGER STRIPE it is MEAT AND BLOOD AND GORE
distant maple
new evis is probably reliably higher damage on the scoreboard at mission end, if...
Oh no I'm typically the player that clear hordes fast
vestal coyote
lol
vestal coyote
it is not TIGER STRIPE it is MEAT AND BLOOD AND GORE
sry bby
zinc talon
distant maple
Ion mind the damage my priority is horde clearing
zinc talon
(it's tiger stripe and it kills me)
spiral anvil
Ion mind the damage my priority is horde clearing
The damage comes from the horde clearing lol
hardy surge
But the new chaxe defo gonna use it for the twins until I get my champion insign...
you can go into gas phase in one or two revs. just get another zealot to chorus its face to give you an opening
distant maple
The damage comes from the horde clearing lol
Yes I know
But you get what I'm saying
zinc talon
downright fuckugly on our shovel imo
vapid solstice
anyone know if perks affect burn damage on flamer?
distant maple
If ever I did hard mode I need to spam the new chaxe from brunt till I get good mobility in that thing
spiral anvil
anyone know if perks affect burn damage on flamer?
Yes
spiral anvil
It depends on the ACTIVE weapon though
zinc talon
yep that
spiral anvil
If you swap to melee then it's your melee perks
vapid solstice
oh awesome
clever zealot
what knife would you recommend for the zealot backstab build?
ripe quest
If ever I did hard mode I need to spam the new chaxe from brunt till I get good ...
Mobility and Defences are dump stats thankfully.
vapid solstice
nice little mechanic
spiral anvil
If you swap to blitz you get nth
distant maple
Mobility and Defences are dump stats thankfully.
I know, I just wanna be fast thasall
hardy surge
what knife would you recommend for the zealot backstab build?
the 3. I honestly don't think I'd recommend the 6 for any build.
zinc talon
I've been extremely lucky with my new axe purchases
and I will absolutely agree max mobility axe is phenominal
clever zealot
the 3. I honestly don't think I'd recommend the 6 for any build.
why not?
zinc talon
people that categorically dump stat mobility will never stop feeling like their weapons are somehow, some way, missing something
'power maul too slow broken weapon'
no. you're too slow
max movement power maul makes you a football running back
as an example
hardy surge
why not?
because of the 6's horizontal heavy. being able to stab things in the head is a big thing on knifes.
ripe quest
people that categorically dump stat mobility will never stop feeling like their ...
I have always dump stated mobility and I always will. Have never complained about the mobility of a weapon.
polar nexus
people that categorically dump stat mobility will never stop feeling like their ...
A lot of player are just ult spammer
They never learn how to move properly
north sedge
🤔
ripe quest
I genuinely feel as if most weapons have more than enough mobility to offer. Shit like knife and force sword is insane to me. So 50% mobility isn't a big loss.
polar nexus
Damage taker above 1k is not a thing, except if you're going martyr
polar nexus
I genuinely feel as if most weapons have more than enough mobility to offer. Shi...
Knife and force swords are something else
Try to use a low mobility psword
zinc talon
you're playing at the level you're aware of the tradeoffs, so it's a valid approach
ripe quest
I have.
spiral anvil
Force swords are mobile?
polar nexus
It's horrible
zinc talon
but the hoi pelloi unwashed masses, they don't know
spiral anvil
They aren't bad but putting force sword next to knife kinda sus
zinc talon
they just know bull butcher best kickback best click lmb til job done
spiral anvil
But dodge distance and movetech
ripe quest
It's like, not bad. I haven't ever used a melee weapon and gone "this mobility sucks ass". Only time I've felt it is with certain ranged weapons feeling sluggish and guess what? It's from the pullout time and not the movement speed.
zinc talon
WHY WEAPON SLOW WEAPON BROKEN DUMB GAME
left iron
Rip crabwalk force swords, you wont be missed
ripe quest
They aren't bad but putting force sword next to knife kinda sus <:KEKW_ogryn:102...
tbf my mind is biased to when force swords had unlimited dodges. I haven't used one in a good bit.
spiral anvil
Yea there's no more unlimited dodges
zinc talon
I run dry on dodges all the fkn time
north sedge
and uh, most weapons you're not gonna be like "well i need high mobility so see you later much more important stat!"
polar nexus
It's like, not bad. I haven't ever used a melee weapon and gone "this mobility s...
Mind you I have spent more of my playtime on high mobility caxes
zinc talon
still, deflector 4 with blocking costs peril before stamina
idc what people think it's total chefs kiss
polar nexus
So I am used to a certain standard
spiral anvil
Deflector ew
polar nexus
And I can clearly feel the difference between 50ish and 70ish mobility
zinc talon
mage tank mage tank mage tank
through decades of study and honing my incomparable mind
hardy surge
deflector is extremely situational imo. The time I ran with one I blocked bullets like once every 4 missions
zinc talon
I have mastered the ability of telling bullets StopThat
dunno if it still is or not, but deflector 4 with some block efficiency and warp charges add peril resistance, paired with blocking usees peril then stamina
was hands down the maximum damage soak of any setup on all classes
north sedge
i could do all that, or uh, drop a shield
steep hollow
unfortunate
zinc talon
i could do all that, or uh, drop a shield
north sedge
good base but you'll need to get very luck with both rolls
polar nexus
You can go a long way doing that with some weapons
left iron
SnA and block efficiency beckons
zinc talon
sure, the ones that chew up chargers are a pretty common sight
north sedge
It's not hard to press w and m1 and f
im only allowed one key press at a time sadly
strange kestrel
should i pick this up
left iron
strange kestrel
DAMN
spiral anvil
Hadron 
drowsy steppe
its not a bad weapon but being suppressed does make it harder for you to aim properly. Add to the fact of how much the weapon kicks when youre shooting it
open field
Is the Crusher any good? I dont quite understand it vs the power hamers
spiral anvil
should i pick this up
Why not it costs only dockets
zinc talon
oooh are we posting gear
strange kestrel
its not a bad weapon but being suppressed does make it harder for you to aim pro...
makes sense
north sedge
what else would i need
thrust slaughterer/headtaker, perks unyielding flak/elites
strange kestrel
Why not it costs only dockets
yeah but is it worth it tho
left iron
strange kestrel
ive never seen a zealot use this gun
left iron
Weak spot perk
spiral anvil
Fatshark buffs and nerfs things on a whim
nova python
strange kestrel
aside the docket idk if i should invest plasteel on it
spiral anvil
You never know when it's "lasgun patch"
zinc talon
have yall seen the damage increase discrepancy on head sword weak spot heavy hits since they finished tweaking everything from the bromentum/deathblow update
polar nexus
im only allowed one key press at a time sadly
Sadge.
zinc talon
sleeping on weak spot altogether is keeping yall from some really serious damage increases when you have the 15% from the blessing
hardy surge
Is the Crusher any good? I dont quite understand it vs the power hamers
some people swear by it. the hammer is more of a snipe weapon. pick a target, destroy target. Crusher is a bit more focused on mixed hordes I believe. Since I think you can charge that one and still bash a few in one hit
north sedge
rampage is not bugged anymore
agile pivot
Is the Crusher any good? I dont quite understand it vs the power hamers
Crusher is likely the single strongest melee weapon in the entire game atm
zinc talon
I absolutely adore my crushers
agile pivot
Its simply good at everything
clever zealot
hows this crusher look?
spiral anvil
Explore the combos
spiral anvil
Special stagger is stupid
north sedge
push attack is a high dmg headshot move
lucid hamlet
Crushers are basically "Bounce House - The Weapon™"
clever zealot
no no I meant, how is this crusher specifically
zinc talon
let me see if I have any footage of the crusher combat style
agile pivot
Easy to use and strong single target combo, fun crowd control combo that is very effective
clever zealot
like blessings and perks wise
zinc talon
a couple easy pointers
open field
what are the best blessings for it? I have IV Trama and IV Skullcrusher
clever zealot
what needs to be changed
Obv skullcrusher is good, but idk if I should swap out trauma
polar nexus
rampage is not bugged anymore
They said that in a patch note?
agile pivot
It has a strong dodge range and a respectable 4 dodges
zinc talon
the powerup attacks are now half blast radius and half damage when you light swing vs heavy
strange kestrel
is kantrael x laspistol fine to pair with crucis hammer
polar nexus
Because I don't remember reading it
zinc talon
and the blast size has been reduced as well
north sedge
skullcrusher hammerblow ideally, trauma ok
north sedge
They said that in a patch note?
secret ninja fix
zinc talon
you'll only really aoe a group with the heavy attack
light swing only blasts what you hit
polar nexus
secret ninja fix
Lmao...
lucid hamlet
and the blast size has been reduced as well
They nerfed the blast radius? Damn
agile pivot
Crusher also has the distinctive privilege of opening up bulwarks from the front
spiral anvil
secret ninja fix
Do you know where I can find it in the aussiemon repo
zinc talon
also train yourself to start using the push attack every time you can
lucid hamlet
On lights only or both lights and heavies?
zinc talon
it's not like the power maul
proud jackal
is kantrael x laspistol fine to pair with crucis hammer
yeah, it doubles down on what the crucis already does, which is melt bosses and elites!
open field
mhm
distant maple
Alright my fellow guardians, holy relic or shroudfield for the karnak fight
drowsy steppe
skullcrusher hammerblow ideally, trauma ok
do you still lose trauma stacks on misses
zinc talon
plus, the push lays 4 stacks and the attack the other 4
strange kestrel
yeah, it doubles down on what the crucis already does, which is melt bosses and ...
u funny
agile pivot
Crusher also sits very comfortably at a LOT of 1s breakpoints
zinc talon
so you've knocked them on their ass, with max skullcrusher stacks, and you're doing double damage until they get up basically
north sedge
do you still lose trauma stacks on misses
probably? trauma is like "well at least it isnt thunderstrike"
zinc talon
thunderstrike has its place but for the most part yeah, it's not the thing to bring unless you know what you're doing
distant maple
@drowsy steppe sorry for the ping but do you still have the body part type of the twins
agile pivot
Gunners, shotgunners, literally every specialist besides mutants, ragers if you chastise
distant maple
keen silo
zinc talon
what really adds to the crusher's appeal is changing your metric on what makes a weapon deadly or not
the metric yall should be using is
proud jackal
infernus/dumdum laspistol shreds bosses
open field
When picking blessings for my curios should I doubt down on things or have them be varied.
north sedge
nothing auto reloads unless you're weapon specialist vet
zinc talon
'will this thing be dead by the time it gets back up onto its feet'
open field
like have all 3 have the same bonus
distant maple
Thank you fellow guardian, and yess I chose the right perk for my ogryn shovel
strange kestrel
infernus/dumdum laspistol shreds bosses
i thought you were being sarcastic about the laspistol doubling down on what the crucis does already
open field
or each with seperate +s
zinc talon
and the answer most every time is, yes, you'll kill the target before it recovers from your opening attack knocking it down
agile pivot
You wont kill as FAST as other weapons but literally no other zealot weapon is as versatile against all health types
hardy surge
Alright my fellow guardians, holy relic or shroudfield for the karnak fight
chorus. it does so much in that fight. gives you a breather, stuns the bosses, helps the team survive the gass
drowsy steppe
you are welcome
distant maple
chorus. it does so much in that fight. gives you a breather, stuns the bosses, h...
Wait the relic prevents being fartes on?
Shiiit
north sedge
depends on the team make up
slow bridge
zamn
agile pivot
There isnt a single enemy type that the crusher is bad at killing
zinc talon
the crusher is the only weapon I've found that can reliably say I am only 3, sometimes 4 attacks from killing anything in the game
bosses excluded
agile pivot
Even crushers(the enemy) go down in like 4 hits
north sedge
Wait the relic prevents being fartes on?
gas eats toughness first, anything that regens toughness means you're not getting hurt
zinc talon
yeah it may take two or three swings to kill smol stuff, sure, but it kills elites in that same number of hits plus one maybe two
and EVERYTHING can be killed before it gets back up off its ass
hardy surge
Wait the relic prevents being fartes on?
the gas phase burns through your toughness and then it starts corrupting you. as long as the relic is pushing up your toughness you are good
distant maple
gas eats toughness first, anything that regens toughness means you're not gettin...
Yea I know the toughness part. Shame, thought it prevent fart attacks
agile pivot
One full year of whining and complaining and downplaying took the crusher from the indisputable worst melee in the whole game to likely the best
distant maple
But its pretty good still actually
hardy surge
Yea I know the toughness part. Shame, thought it prevent fart attacks
oh lol
proud jackal
i thought you were being sarcastic about the laspistol doubling down on what the...
oh im serious, its one of the highest dps weapons in the game lol
strange kestrel
damn
agile pivot
Also it just looks cool
zinc talon
this is achieved by you being really comfortable with the melee combo looping and what the next attack will be depending on the swing you're using this very moment
north sedge
ehh....crusher was achieved by crab feedback
agile pivot
And crusher is also now a FINESSE weapon which means it WONT EVER GET NERFED(looking at you butterknife twinkletoes)
strange kestrel
should i use the acctran mk2 or the kantrael mk x
distant maple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1185093168073551953/D...
Me unironically keeping my curious at exalted:
zinc talon
I don't feel like the new laspistol keeps up the same as the old one
zinc talon
it sure can yes
agile pivot
New laspistol is a lot better as a backup elite killer
zinc talon
I think we just haven't found its setup that really shines yet
agile pivot
Not as overkill as the revolver
polar nexus
I remember reading that void shield was a separate type. Not flak.
But that was like 10 months ago
zinc talon
cuz magdumping into a p.ogryn's forehead in the grinder can kill the stupid thing in a minute or so I think
agile pivot
Idk its pretty fucking stupid with ghost/dumdum
zinc talon
so the potential output is there
agile pivot
Its prime shooter control
Very easy to just walk through gunner blobs
If it crits it one shots
zinc talon
it'll onetap a lot of smol and standard stuff even without a minmax sweatlord setup
proud jackal
should i use the acctran mk2 or the kantrael mk x
I'm only familiar with the kantrael, but I'm sure the new shouldn't be too shabby either
strange kestrel
i see, thanks!
open field
What does it mean if I cant rebless a weapon
zinc talon
to me though it a. feels like it WANTS to miss especially at medium ranges, and b. the fire rate is easy to get out of sync with your shooting and feel like the gun has a mind of its own
agile pivot
The mk 10 also has a LOT better range
polar sand
Whats the dumpstat other than mobility on the daggers?
zinc talon
depending on your setup you could take a hit on penetration and make up for it with rending and other stuff like that
proud jackal
i see, thanks!
also I recommend an autoclicker or the Full Auto mod if you intend on using the laspistol
zinc talon
without a doubt
proud jackal
your finger will thank you 😂
zinc talon
no autofire on a laspistol is just early onset arthritis exercises
agile pivot
Old laspistol is diminished after it’s pretty significant rof nerf/revert
zinc talon
which is silly, it's almost an accessability issue
I still to this day don't much like lasguns except the pistol because my finger would fkn ache after using it for a job or two
I finally said look, either I autofire this gun or I simply won't use it, and the game doesn't get played
polar sand
Hmm dang, okay thanks. Im guessing 2 perks would be maniac + unyielding/flak?
proud jackal
not only is it QoL but it makes certain weapons shine
agile pivot
I think that the mkx laspistol should have access to headhunter/deadly accurate I think this would be balanced
zinc talon
and then I found other mods, and now my darktide is so much fun I doubt I'll ever uninstall
proud jackal
like the faster firing kantrael lasgun or the vraks headhunters
polar nexus
The mg4?
proud jackal
yeah
zinc talon
mods are the reason I feel so strongly about darktide being a top tier game title I've bought every single cosmetic ever released
and sit in darktide official discord chat answering questions and babysitting youngins through things they can't do themselves
well that shut the room up, I thought it was a respectable thing to say
spiral anvil
Where the hell are the blessings in the source code
agile pivot
I think basic weapon customization is a mandatory mod
I think extended 2x is a bit goofy and I dont use it
polar sand
Do we have something like ogrynomicon but for zealots o.o?
agile pivot
If we had a zealonomicon I would write a spell in it that instantly killed knife users
hexed field
jesus
distant maple
I think so, at least since the first maybe three or four store cycles
I still rember the only the 3 cycles
zinc talon
I am blessed with respect to my financials
distant maple
After that I kinda quit the game
ripe quest
Where the hell are the blessings in the source code <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290...
My route is to find the specific blessing through a weapon in scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_traits, then searching for the blessing which goes to an easy direct link to where it is in the base_weapon_trait_buff_templates.lua file.
hexed field
I havent spent my free aquilas yet
distant maple
So idk what was the 4th rotation ever
agile pivot
I buy mostly just the like plate armored or super heavy purity seals zealot cosmetics
zinc talon
yep I feel it, people felt really poorly about the cosmetics rollout and the game at that time was severely lacking with respect to crafting and equipment
strange kestrel
darktide is pretty good
hexed field
the store setup is also really gross and i dont want to support that
zinc talon
it was a real low point in the timeline, the game could have fizzled out and shut down very very easily then
I respect that opinion, I feel that way about most games as well
polar sand
I just throw my "adult money" monthly stash at games
Gaming is a much cheaper hobby compared to most to be honest
hexed field
Dont mind giving money to Deep Rock devs one bit, those fellas are alright
agile pivot
Eh I feel the opposite about drg tbh
zinc talon
and like I said earlier, the inflation on pricing is getting to a breaking point even for me who couldn't care less about the actual dollar cost per item
spiral anvil
Gaming is a much cheaper hobby compared to most to be honest
True but also 2000$ GPUs
agile pivot
I would really rather not give them money until they stop the random nerf patches and increase the speed at which they generate content
zinc talon
today's store cycle sent me to get 7000 aquilas three times, starting at 2900 aquilas banked beforehand with 3100 aquilas left over after every buy
sullen eagle
what weapons work best on martyr zeal?
zinc talon
a hundred bucks for everything in a single store cycle?
that's quite the audacious ask
agile pivot
what weapons work best on martyr zeal?
Mk2 evis is supreme for martyr, crucis thammer uses martyr to hit its funny damage
zinc talon
not quite as fucking insulting egregious as star citizen's sheer fucking nerve
hexed field
Also making the super anticipated krieg sets juuuust too much to buy with the free aquilas is gross as fuck too
sullen eagle
Mk2 evis is supreme for martyr, crucis thammer uses martyr to hit its funny dama...
alright, lemme try that. Can i get a good martyr evisc build?
zinc talon
but pretty close
zinc talon
Also making the super anticipated krieg sets juuuust too much to buy with the fr...
yep that's a coke dealer tactic
ripe quest
what weapons work best on martyr zeal?
The neat part is just about everything does. Stuff with Deathblow or Brutal Momentum benefit from the added damage meeting BPs. Horde clear weapons are nice options as well. Hsword is an overlap of both which is what I think is currently the best Martyr weapon, but anything works.
zinc talon
just to get you used to clicking even for like $5 worth
you still clicked through and now the next time could be easier
hexed field
Ive been running my zealot with the Beta dunce helmet and the prison jumpsuit lol
zinc talon
I dislike those kinds of slimeball mobile game loot casino tactics
hexed field
works for me, its first person anyway
sullen eagle
just to get you used to clicking even for like $5 worth
totally not me spending $11 on league earlier to get 2 skins giga cheap lmao
distant maple
Cousin okri what was the 4th rotation zealot cosmetic
hexed field
Ive been tihnking of trying that, it looks fun
distant maple
After the shop's been released
agile pivot
alright, lemme try that. Can i get a good martyr evisc build?
Take both keystone modifiers sligjtly too big to fit all in the screenshot
zinc talon
boy, uh, I'd have to look through the wardrobe
meager bison
Ive been tihnking of trying that, it looks fun
3rd knife zealot or 3rd person surge psyker are the most functioning
distant maple
boy, uh, I'd have to look through the wardrobe
Yeaa sorry about that
zinc talon
first was the outfit with the really long paper oaths on the chest
distant maple
I have that one
meager bison
3rd person Ogryn kind of tough honestly, takes a while to get the new headshots down
zinc talon
second was the blue suit with the mouthguard
third was...the admech looking tattered red robe
agile pivot
third was...the admech looking tattered red robe
“””””””crusader armor”””””””””
distant maple
God I miss the 2nd outfit section that was far cheaper
zinc talon
so fourth was the leather armor with a shoulderpad and several knives in sheathes
distant maple
I see
zinc talon
I'll get you a pic
polar sand
Cant decide between these two for a chorus crit/cooldown build, anyone knows which one is better?
agile pivot
distant maple
Might have to look deep into reddit if they even sent the pics
agile pivot
$2.99 dollar store crusader power armor
sage swan
So what builds are people having success with in the hard mode twins fight? I've just been running devil claw and parrying the shit out of everything on my martyrdom build, but it's gotten me killed plenty
distant maple
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c7/Crusader2.png/revisio...
I bought the full set back then
sullen eagle
i assume i want wounds curios?
zinc talon
I'm less sure of the pants/headgear for each outfit but I can prolly find em
distant maple
That included the weapon skins and trinket
steep hollow
is momentum like actually good? i’ve been running it with an eviscerator to swing fast n stuff but idk if it’s better than fury or something
sullen eagle
is it +1 wounds or +2 wounds for the max blessing
steep hollow
like what’s. the strat currently
polar sand
So what builds are people having success with in the hard mode twins fight? I've...
I cleared mine as a chorus dagger/crit support zealot
distant maple
is it +1 wounds or +2 wounds for the max blessing
It's always 1 wound for a curio blessing
Iirc
zinc talon
first
sage swan
All of the times I've tried with a dagger I've ended up not having enough damage to make a difference, but maybe chorus is difference enough
distant maple
So im not sure if it made its return from time to time
zinc talon
second? I don't think I bought the headgear on this one
wait I had to, cuz I got the whole suit
distant maple
If it didn't return once then damn that's the rarest possible cosmetic
zinc talon
maybe, I remember it being dumb
distant maple
It's part of the rotation u was mostly referring to the featured
distant maple
maybe, I remember it being dumb
It didn't come with a mask
agile pivot
is momentum like actually good? i’ve been running it with an eviscerator to swin...
Momentum shines on weapons that want a lot more attack speed over damage
Like the crusher
distant maple
That fit is separate
polar sand
All of the times I've tried with a dagger I've ended up not having enough damage...
I found that not focusing the twins helped a lot, my group just focused on everything else and only hit the twins whenever there are no other threats left
steep hollow
Momentum shines on weapons that want a lot more attack speed over damage
I guess kind of the eviscerator then?
i’ve just been enjoying zooming around tbh
polar sand
Chorus helps to keep the team alive
zinc talon
third, this is the individual headgear not the bundle
steep hollow
maybe it’s better to do just a crit eviscerator build again on fury
crit & bleed or something
agile pivot
I guess *kind of* the eviscerator then?
Evis wants more damage and more attackspeed and its sort of slow anyway so imo its much better suited to martyrdom
steep hollow
would save a bunch of points going over all the way to the right for momentum too
north sedge
Marty
polar sand
Cant decide between these two for a chorus crit/cooldown build, anyone knows whi...
Anyone able to help with deciding between these two daggers?
zinc talon
fourth, I don't remember the pants these were individual
zinc talon
Anyone able to help with deciding between these two daggers?
I do not use knives, sorry sir/madam/person/thing
agile pivot
I dont believe in crit evis at all
zinc talon
this was the headgear I couldn't remember for #3
