the elites perk to Flak and the Rampage for Deathblow
#zealot-class
drowsy steppe
gray ice
marty zealot is the way
royal vortex
only works on hp
delicate shadow
no it's a bait
gray ice
only works on hp, bad
royal vortex
1 hp = 1% cdr
hollow ember
ah rip
royal vortex
it's worthless
dark zealot
nah you cant be right
coarse birch
Wym
coarse birch
7 is fine
dark zealot
ive used that and got chorus back very fast
coarse birch
Skill issue
gray ice
https://streamable.com/pp1h1y
coarse birch
But also that's tragic lol
dark zealot
https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-2...
so if the shark had arms itd win?
coarse birch
That clip of arco being thrown to the abyss is still my favorite though
royal vortex
But also that's tragic lol
that clip wouldve been SO COOL
hollow ember
i forgot to say thank you, so thanks for the info everyone
cerulean pike
Legoland selling the best weapon in the game. Pog.
Claw pilled always
fleet zealot
only works iwht HP and it's bad
even with maximum HP stacking, restoring faith, it's bad
there is no reason it should exist
hollow ember
yea that is unfortunate, wish it worked with toughness and toughness reduction
or rather before toughness reduction is applied
coarse birch
https://streamable.com/erx0y5
Dude got destroyed
cerulean pike
It’d be fucking broken if it did
hollow ember
yea
gray ice
so if the shark had arms itd win?
only if trained by the great tyson himself
delicate shadow
Legoland selling the best weapon in the game. Pog.
Claw pilled always
luv da claw
royal vortex
that was like the one time i played with crab too
he cursed me
with his crustacean sorcery
cerulean pike
claw gang claw gang
coarse birch
Rip crab
delicate shadow
playing with crab on his claw 7 was hella fun, that man is an artist with that thing
royal vortex
i watched him hunt down every daemonhost he could find
gray ice
I still think he's a witch for liking the 7 as much as he does
royal vortex
with krak grenades
gray ice
That shit feels so weird
delicate shadow
I still think he's a witch for liking the 7 as much as he does
oh yeah he's arcane as hell, he loves the hsword7 too
man's full o' lucky 7s
royal vortex
polar nexus
Heavy one is just a golf swing lol
i thought i was the only one thinking that
i am in good company
royal vortex
where the fk is it
delicate shadow
the mk6 is the only one i like
I tried the 9 recently after doing a bunch of 6 and I legit do not care for the 9 any more lmao
it's still good but 6 my beloved
polar nexus
That shit feels so weird
why it's a reverse 4?
coarse birch
Doesnt 9 have the best cleave or is that not true
delicate shadow
why it's a reverse 4?
yea that's what makes it weird
polar nexus
man's full o' lucky 7s
vraks 7 too iirc
sharp zodiac
Alright I can't see a difference so lemme add the perks I need and then see rq
delicate shadow
vraks 7 too iirc
yea he was one of the OG vraks enjoyers
dark zealot
look what i found
gray ice
why it's a reverse 4?
precisely, and the heavy combo feels slightly clunkier to me for some reason.
coarse birch
Is crab still working on DT do we know
proud jackal
I tried the 9 recently after doing a bunch of 6 and I legit do not care for the ...
i should give the 6 another go, cause I don't really care much for 9 tbh
delicate shadow
dew it
gray ice
6 is simply too based
delicate shadow
god it's weird watching people speculate on the test group lol
gray ice
nice clean moveset
royal vortex
god it's weird watching people speculate on the test group lol
i can't believe fireant ruined vet
gray ice
how could he
polar nexus
got an hadron iywim
proud jackal
the 9s moveset is what initially appealed to me
candid nest
I think shroud has ruined me...Every other ability seems not as good as shroud to clutch or do dmg with...
proud jackal
light sweeps for trash and heavy overheads for elites
delicate shadow
and ofc by speculate I mean be hilariously incorrect every time
polar nexus
I think shroud has ruined me...Every other ability seems not as good as shroud t...
try stealth vet then 😄
sharp zodiac
Wrong thing
royal vortex
the playtester cabal plans to RUIN darktide
coarse birch
Dude i love the loading weapon
polar nexus
darcism
delicate shadow
it's true, my current goal is to rework fire so it inverts your controls
cerulean pike
It’s all Incan’s fault
delicate shadow
if you get hit by a poxburster your DPI changes randomly too
royal vortex
21 min scab melee only
sharp zodiac
There, much better, now to compare
coarse birch
https://streamable.com/vb1fms
Fatsharks finest balance at work
delicate shadow
https://streamable.com/vb1fms
it's fine you have SHOVEL now
royal vortex
true
buoyant pecan
I'm here to tell you heavies were always better
royal vortex
now i have to walk up to 4 crushers to annihilate them before my teammates register they even exist
😔
gray ice
I actually haven't tried new shovel yet
noble bloom
For the GOD EMPEROR please somebody tell me how to make this koin voice button in message, cant see it with /
gray ice
I have seen that it can do some crazy things
delicate shadow
now i have to walk up to 4 crushers to annihilate them before my teammates regis...
dude the game we played after beating hardmode and you're just out there dunkin and relaxing
coarse birch
Yeah lights only work cause HT/Rampage is kinda dumb
royal vortex
dude the game we played after beating hardmode and you're just out there dunkin ...
it was fucking therapeutic dude
delicate shadow
yeah I needed that 
royal vortex
i just waddled my fat ass around hitting stuff and sometimes un-netting people
hardly had to think
opaque island
it is not super easy
opaque island
so did i, but im not gonna tell people its super easy, i got lucky with a good team
polar nexus
There, much better, now to compare
wait, what, another French here
north sedge
i was being very sarcastic
delicate shadow
wdym hard mode super easy
Red first tried it but then failed it for like 2 hours straight with us before he left and we got josho lmao
royal vortex
ignore the part where i was fkin micromanaging people's builds to make it less painful
north sedge
plus josho was literally with me
royal vortex
Red first tried it but then failed it for like 2 hours straight with us before h...
i didn
north sedge
eh i had already made most of my build after yesterday
royal vortex
't get tilted that time which was nice
ripe quest
I have no context but that is some 💀 shit.
delicate shadow
yeah I didn't tilt either in those runs, I tilted in the runs with red
so I was pre-tilted
dark zealot
it has occured to me there could be someone in this server who has had the displeasure of being in my squad
polar nexus
Which combat knife feels better chat
kourk cleaver
opaque island
no one here shall know who my char is
royal vortex
eh i had already made most of my build after yesterday
yea i mostly had to tell cera and mankar what to do
which it worked
dapper robin
glad to have win this when i was playing the zealot
royal vortex
since we first try'd it
north sedge
they hadn't even seen it
calm salmon
what the fuck did I walk into
coarse birch
Idk ive managed to not cue with anyone here randomly
calm salmon
Where's the degeneracy
royal vortex
when jay said "you guys are gonna do this first try" i felt the end was near
calm salmon
I really don't want to debate people on a fight that's 80% rng
royal vortex
and then it wasn't lmao
drowsy anchor
i have amass 300k
calm salmon
and them saying "gg ez"
drowsy anchor
it is time to mass buy chain axe
coarse birch
I have gotten objekts a few times
ornate bone
if i can get it anybody can
proud jackal
calm salmon
https://tenor.com/view/boy-kisser-boykisser-boy-kisser-type-type-typing-gif-4348...
actually
royal vortex
that fight is absolutely not 80% rng
calm salmon
that fight is absolutely not 80% rng
it literally is
dark zealot
and them saying "gg ez"
gg ez
royal vortex
u legit just turn around and look at shit
polar nexus
and them saying "gg ez"
you can do it like telopots and say pathetic, never again
royal vortex
yea and u said its hard if u get maulers and stuff and we did it first try with mostly mauler/rager/crusher waves
sharp zodiac
wait, what, another French here
Yeah
opaque island
I wouldnt mind the specials so much if they didnt spawn instantly with almost no sound from the doors
calm salmon
and if you get reasonable waves, its a fuckin snooze fest
drowsy anchor
whats reasonable wave of elite in twin fight lol
royal vortex
i would take crushers over maulers p much always in that fight
calm salmon
whats reasonable wave of elite in twin fight lol
shotgunners
for the most part
throw one nuke
royal vortex
the jank is if you get random burstered out of nowhere
calm salmon
wave gone
drowsy anchor
theres ranged elite unit in twin fight ?
calm salmon
dps down bosses
run around "puzzle"
new wave: shotgunners
other ogryn throws nukes
dps down boss
that's braindead shit
drowsy anchor
dawg
delicate shadow
the rng of the fight is if you'll hear the specials or not and if Rinda will naruto run across a room and knock you into fart bombs
the rest is pretty whatever tbh
ripe quest
I feel like yeah, the rng of that fight is if you get taken offguard by a silent special.
calm salmon
but if you get fucked by the elite wave compositions, rip
drowsy anchor
if you get fuk by elite wave composition
you need to tune yourself to deal with any elite wave
and you can, because thats what your weapons are for
delicate shadow
like getting silent burstered out of the fuckin fart gas is beyond mindnumbing
drowsy anchor
your guns, your melee, your ability
calm salmon
you need to tune yourself to deal with any elite wave
I'm really not gonna debate the efficacy of meta in a game built around all skill levels
calm salmon
new boss fight fucked
drowsy anchor
Yeah I can see you not gonna debate much
drowsy anchor
since you are kinda fukin stupid
delicate shadow
https://tenor.com/view/rarda-gif-26327703
legit
royal vortex
it's hilarious how erratic rinda gets when she's enraged
she just jumps between people constantly
if ur spread out when rodin dies
she fkin pinballs around the room
delicate shadow
she's very much so a weeb
opaque island
i think the boss fight is alot of fun not counting damnation hard mode
calm salmon
i think the boss fight is alot of fun not counting damnation hard mode
i mean yeah
its just like
regular amounts of fucked in damnation
annoying, but that's it.
delicate shadow
I don't enjoy the map at all outside zola getting booted from the discord call
calm salmon
Hard mode is infuriating
royal vortex
I don't enjoy the map at all outside zola getting booted from the discord call
i mean theres nothing to enjoy about the map
delicate shadow
zola getting dabbed on is the only good part
royal vortex
has nothing going on outside of the dialogue/shitty end arena
drowsy anchor
is it even possible for ranged elite to spawn in this boss fight, i havent seen any of that and I have attempted this secret hard mode for 3-4 times
delicate shadow
oh and I guess 1v1ing Rinda is fun but that gets ruined very quickly
calm salmon
is it even possible for ranged elite to spawn in this boss fight, i havent seen ...
yes
When I won
I got 4 waves of shotgunners
3, actually. And the one normal wave of ragers/maulers which got instantly yeeted by ogryn firepower
which completely trivialized the fight
delicate shadow
I enjoyed duelling Rinda, Rodin is a wet paper towel of a boss and the mines are cheap shit imo
calm salmon
and I think one wave of crushers
royal vortex
rodin throwing a million mines kills my enjoyment
and the arena is the least visually interesting map theyve made so far and theres nothing going on with it
delicate shadow
if the fight was 2 Rindas and no Rodin I'd probably actually like the fight
yeah and that's not fun lol
in either case
royal vortex
rodin will legit throw 4 mines at a wall
and it's like
the only reason this would do anything
is if something knocked me into these 4 mines pressed against a wall
why is this even a thing he can do
royal vortex
if u could shoot the mines that would be awesome
ornate bone
i like the fight better, then the brain dead minibosses so far
calm salmon
none of the boss fights in VT2 are particularly interesting
delicate shadow
Fatshark absolutely can bossfight well, this one is just mid af
calm salmon
the most engaging one is second phase boss fight in castle drakenfells
dark zealot
if u could shoot the mines that would be awesome
just eat them
calm salmon
and then skittergate
with rasknitt
this is just something that fatshark has historically been awful at
candid nest
wtf have they done to the flamer~!:?
royal vortex
Fatshark absolutely can bossfight well, this one is just mid af
and rinda on her own is just so goddamn fun
opaque island
none of the boss fights in VT2 are particularly interesting
any of the VT2 bosses are better than the current "bosses" of assasin targets
dark zealot
yeah
royal vortex
like she's a cool boss to engage with
opaque island
wtf have they done to the flamer~!:?
wdym?
royal vortex
and then rodin is literally useless outside of being a tool to make knockback more punishing
calm salmon
any of the VT2 bosses are better than the current "bosses" of assasin targets
This is straight up untrue because there's even more boss melting available in VT2
candid nest
Flamer can't kill crusher even with FotF?
calm salmon
the only ones that last any meaningful amount of time are ones with invuln phases
calm salmon
thunderous to thrust
delicate shadow
yeah this would be a good way to solve it
opaque island
This is straight up untrue because there's even more boss melting available in V...
I guess we were playing a different level of VT2
calm salmon
stamina to elites
royal vortex
thunderous to thrust, stamina to flak
hazy perch
One message removed from a suspended account.
jaunty lava
Well that was fast and sure answers 😆
calm salmon
This used to melt them!~
fatshark buffed enemy HP
so you need to rely on chastise more often for adms
specifically against flak armored enemies, and crushers
and you spend 4 more ammo per add to melt them
I think its 4 ammo more per poxwalker
ornate bone
Now it doesn't!
calm salmon
and like 8 more ammo for bruisers, give or take.
so its 8 ammo for a pox horde
instead of 4
sharp zodiac
I decided to just go with this one over the 3 , only costed nearly 4k+ plasteel
opaque island
at what point do i get to call my self a good player?
calm salmon
and 16 ammo for bruisers, instead of 8
sharp zodiac
Headtaker is too good for me to ignore
calm salmon
at what point do i get to call my self a good player?
I dunno
drowsy anchor
rogue trader outfits
calm salmon
I just figured that since I'm managing a ~75% w/r in public damnation aurics
I'm probably not bad
jaunty lava
When you can clutch aurics for 5+ minutes i suppose
gray ice
at what point do i get to call my self a good player?
when you can open the game without banging your shins on the desk
calm salmon
there's no like
hard and fast rule though
anything above a 60% w/r already puts you well ahead of the curve in literally every game
jaunty lava
Nope. You just boast to everyone and get told everyone can do it
calm salmon
fuck my hand hurts 
karmic willow
two nights of defeat. good job FS, this is an enjoyable and solid challenge. looking forward to tomorrow
calm salmon
I'm going to obliterate it over the next few weeks
and then from there, its the world being my oyster
jaunty lava
I finished it lv3 this morning with friends that aren't exactly top players. Trying to do lv4 tonight
clear knot
fuck my hand hurts <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
lewd man
calm salmon
for hard mode
royal vortex
ive done it with 3 zealots 1 psyker and 2 zealots 1 vet 1 psyker
candid nest
ok so I can kill crushers again with a full mag of this but damn is it annoying cause I have to use judgement tree and chastise
jaunty lava
I think a shield ogryn (or 2) a thammer and maybe some horde clear should do it quite easily.
calm salmon
shield ogryn is pointless
royal vortex
i would way rather have a caxe or chaxe zealot than hammer for that mode
calm salmon
and frankly, a detriment
royal vortex
hammer's big boss damage is vs unyielding, these bosses aren't unyielding
calm salmon
shield just has dogshit damage in this fight
its not what shield is tuned for
is that the rashad
royal vortex
beacon of purity is very nice for that fight
calm salmon
can we just call it rashad caxe
jaunty lava
hammer's big boss damage is vs unyielding, these bosses aren't unyielding
Oh thanks i just played psyker and knife/chainsword zealot for way too long, i didn't know
calm salmon
please
calm salmon
beacon of purity is very nice for that fight
also improved veteran crates
if teammates can manage their corruption gain
the one medkit you get will heal the corruption off with an improved crate vet
we love improved crate vets
royal vortex
also improved veteran crates
calm salmon
fuckin greedy fucks with infinite nades instead
jaunty lava
Phases finishes when they get to a certain health? I haven't talked to anyone since it came out so i'm kinda lost on the new mission. Also someone talked about bells
exotic portal
Honestly did hard mode first try, pugs are a struggle
delicate shadow
on vet I was using a columnus and that shredded the shields quite well
calm salmon
yeah
delicate shadow
tho the run that we beat was me on hsword zealot instead of on vet
calm salmon
the shields don't seem to have the same -50% ranged damage taken modifier
so anything with a huge magazine and good crit strings does solid work
ornate bone
eh who needs a plan we went in there 3 Plasma vets and me using a knife second tried that shi
delicate shadow
the shields don't seem to have the same -50% ranged damage taken modifier
the actual values were posted somewhere in here a while ago
1x on Rodin I believe
delicate shadow
so still capable of shredding
calm salmon
<a:NODDERS:1073320123227713608>
oh
delicate shadow
yeah lmao
calm salmon
you're josho
royal vortex
never have to do the puzzle again
calm salmon
you fucks keep changing your name
royal vortex
stan keeps changing my name
royal vortex
not my fault SMH
delicate shadow
now that I have the dumb flex insignia I can simply never run the map again until people drag me in kicking and screaming
royal vortex
i take the titles stan gives me
calm salmon
fuck my hand actually hurts though
clear knot
now that I have the dumb flex insignia I can simply never run the map again unti...
yeah, ive got a few ppl to take thru
calm salmon
guitar necks hurt
delicate shadow
I returned to my standard handle after getting too many complaints about how hard it was to tag me after Stan massacred my name in broad daylight
clear knot
will b the week of no plasteel this next week
ornate bone
idk anybody that knows about the hardmode will have the insignia cuz its not that hard and anybody that plays after or dosent know will simply not care. .... all i can do is flex to myself
coarse birch
People use compact mode
delicate shadow
yeah, ive got a few ppl to take thru
I'm down to join if needed
coarse birch
I forgot it exists
calm salmon
People use compact mode
I don't wanna see degenerate weeb shit
all over discord
stupid anime pfps
royal vortex
now that I have the dumb flex insignia I can simply never run the map again unti...
i dragged mankar into the hard mode on his 2nd ever run of the boss
clear knot
stupid anime pfps
at least mine is my OC
coarse birch
Idk anime that well but puri is your pfp not anime
ornate bone
I hate anime, I was new ones daily so I have more shit to hate
royal vortex
yeah
ornate bone
stupid anime pfps
but ur pfp is from a lame anime ...
royal vortex
it's his bombs that make it annoying
clear knot
ppl really think i play with a controller bcuz of my pfp/avatar though
exotic portal
smh making fun of one punch man
royal vortex
w/o bomb spam + the stupid knocking players into bombs that fight is just a longer assassination target fight
coarse birch
ppl really think i play with a controller bcuz of my pfp/avatar though
Ngl i thought that was a cup this whole time
candid nest
IF THEY EVER MAKE IT SO WHERE THIS! THIIISSSSS CAN"T KILL A HORDE OF CRUSHERS! I'LL RIOT!
calm salmon
ppl really think i play with a controller bcuz of my pfp/avatar though
there's a joke here
I'm too kind to make it
huehuehuehue
royal vortex
i wish the safe zone was constantly moving and u had to stay moving to not get touched by the gas
but it's w/e
calm salmon
I don't
we still can't walk over enemies on the floor
so you just get trapped by poxwalkers
and its infuriating
royal vortex
the problem is it obscures enemies who often times have their sound bug out
plain minnow
Never picking up a evis before. Is the blessing good?
ornate bone
calm salmon
Never picking up a evis before. Is the blessing good?
yes, but only rampage
swap wrath to momentum or savage sweep
clear knot
I'm too kind to make it
i have one shaky reason to use a controller : )
calm salmon
and infested to flak
calm salmon
i have one shaky reason to use a controller : )
I'm actually too stupid to get this
and I get the feeling I don't want to be let in on the joke
this is a braindead take
fuck off
fuck off
fuck off
fuck off
with the braindead takes PLEASE
STAGGER MATTERS
coarse birch
Damn puri has seen this take too many times
calm salmon
Damn puri has seen this take too many times
I've been playing Ogryn
FOR TWELVE MONTHS
sharp zodiac
I spent more of the day looking at blessings and comparing than actually running the shit I usually do
royal vortex
i like wrath more on new evis
clear knot
I'm actually too stupid to get this
controller vibrates
calm salmon
WITH TARGET CAPS OF FOUR
clear knot
my mnk doesnt
calm salmon
controller vibrates
lmao
olive raven
Fuck, a heavy sword can only cleave through 2-8 targets at a time
calm salmon
that's actually funny
olive raven
Like
calm salmon
+2
royal vortex
since what u want is CC in mixed hordes
and wrath stacks better in elite dense hordes
calm salmon
WITH TARGET CAPS OF FOUR
AND I CAN SAY
sharp zodiac
controller vibrates
Less ye turn it off
calm salmon
CLEAVE MATTERS EVEN STILL
drowsy anchor
if i have to choose between savage sweep and rampage
im afraid im gonna have to let go of the ss
coarse birch
Rampage imo
coarse birch
If you have to choose
sharp zodiac
I'd spend an hour picking one then landing on the obvious one
calm salmon
cause the blessing description is wrong
sharp zodiac
Joke
calm salmon
so its still more cleave
clear knot
i see mfs be like, "actually SS is kinda bad on new evis, it has a target cap"
drowsy anchor
and especially if the newevis can only cap 4 targets
coarse birch
But how am i supposed to kill a horde if it can't kill 12 dudes per swing
sharp zodiac
Not a fan of the axes, personally
calm salmon
and I fucked around with it for like 8 hours straight
I don't want that shit spoiled
coarse birch
What songs are you learning
calm salmon
Smoke on the Water
drowsy anchor
you shouldnt be here then
calm salmon
cause deep purple is pog
dark zealot
im done trying for the night
calm salmon
naw, its just an acoustic
coarse birch
Oh word
copper hawk
Rashad caxe is 1 of the best wpnz in the gam
dark zealot
100% rng
drowsy anchor
so why is SS still good on the new evis
coarse birch
Stagger is still good
calm salmon
0 damage still applies full stagger
sharp zodiac
It does
broken token
eyo what are the twins made of
candid nest
For the bell puzzle, is it only damnation or can I unlock it in the lower threats?
calm salmon
which prevents you from being bogged down by hyper-density hordes
broken token
I've got a thammer but what gun should i bring
coarse birch
eyo what are the twins made of
Cara head flak body
calm salmon
and allows you to cleave through things like ragers/maulers
who tend to bog down weapons
drowsy anchor
hmm
broken token
Cara head flak body
aHA i knew it
would it be better to aim thammer attacks at the body then
calm salmon
carapace shoulder
opposite shoulders for the siblings
sword sister is right shoulder carapace
gun brother is left shoulder
fleet zealot
Cara head flak body
thanks
calm salmon
I might have that backwards
but they have the same armor thing going on as bulwarks
with the stupid shoulder carapace
broken token
mhm
coarse birch
I also think even just cleaving the enemy and not damaging it still procs some on cleave stuff like crit cdr but that might be false
calm salmon
I also think even just cleaving the enemy and not damaging it still procs some o...
no, that is correct
a 0 damage hit procs CCDR
broken token
thats only ranged i think
calm salmon
thats only ranged i think
you make a good point
I'm just an ogryn
i'm looking down on everything
I don't get a choice, everything is a headshot
coarse birch
I feel like it applies to melee too but tbh im not legging stuff in melee
sour stirrup
how hard is the twins fight on Damnation if I just started playing 4 days ago? 🙃
coarse birch
Uh
calm salmon
don't even
coarse birch
Probably pretty hard
sour stirrup
lol I know you dont mean to
calm salmon
I say that to honestly appraise your skill level
broken token
you make a good point
got any other twins tips?
sour stirrup
I cleared it on Heresy so was just wondering
calm salmon
got any other twins tips?
broken token
honestly im thinking of swithing to like, a heavy sword just to have more dodges
calm salmon
have something that can deal with crushers
elite waves are random
so bank on crushers spawning
and breathe a sigh of release when they don't
calm salmon
oh
then something that kills ragers+maulers
its guaranteed on regular mode
its uh
broken token
thamma
broken token
not thammer?
calm salmon
you can't really dps down the elite waves
I'd choose a gun based solution
like fuckin
I dunno
volvo
broken token
i have a kant shotty
sour stirrup
how hard are Damnation missions (not the twins fight) compared to Heresy? I feel like I do really well on Heresy but I dont wanna troll ppl
dark zealot
not much harder
ornate bone
Arguably better because you get less clueless players
opaque island
how hard are Damnation missions (not the twins fight) compared to Heresy? I feel...
i mean its not trolling if you're trying
drowsy anchor
you still get clueless players
dark zealot
i mean its not trolling if you're trying
thats why you dont try
drowsy anchor
1% less is still less
insignificant number
opaque island
thats why you dont try
you caught me
sour stirrup
ok cool, ty
ripe quest
how hard is the twins fight on Damnation if I just started playing 4 days ago? �...
It's a very difficult fight. I wouldn't recommend it rn since it'll just be frustrating until you eventually get carried through it. I don't think there's any pressure to rush though, this mission should be sticking around.
dark zealot
1% is within error
ornate bone
u can type so ur above most randoms ul meet in pubs
The magical fantasy of "I'll try when I'm ready", then you find out you can't be ready without practice
delicate shadow
i dragged mankar into the hard mode on his 2nd ever run of the boss
lmao destroyed
broken token
i consider myself okay at this game and i still die all the time in dumb ways
i've thrown a clutch like twice now like an idiot
opaque island
i consider myself okay at this game and i still die all the time in dumb ways
I dont care unless your one of the top players, the game will sometimes just decide you lose
broken token
once to a trapper and once to fucking up a poxbursterpush
dark zealot
ive thrown two people over barriers with one barrel
calm salmon
once to a trapper and once to fucking up a poxbursterpush
I've thrown clutches from sprinting
try to push a dog
no stamina
delicate shadow
also on the whole killing Rinda first thing: honestly it's doable but it's so much more of a slog and not worth it lol
calm salmon
pain
broken token
also on the whole killing Rinda first thing: honestly it's doable but it's so mu...
my last game she seemed to be dying first but i think thats because she was on my ass 24/7 and i had a thammer
delicate shadow
nah I did a couple runs where we did kill Rinda first but it ended in wipes
the W was dunking Rodin
dark zealot
true hard mode is no talents or perks/blessings
broken token
are you supposed to not kill her?
sour stirrup
no stamina
haha good to know even good players still make mistakes
ripe quest
Get a knife speedrunner to handle bombs and it is big fun laughing time
sour stirrup
game is very fun and the community has been awesome from my experience so far
opaque island
thats the point i was badly trying to make earlier, it doesnt matter how good you are the game will just decide its time for you to die
broken token
how would i go about finding a good group to play this mission with?
royal vortex
also on the whole killing Rinda first thing: honestly it's doable but it's so mu...
this is how i felt. i thought the problem for a bit was rinda displacing ppl and knocking you around but then i realized the bombs are so fucking cancer
delicate shadow
are you supposed to not kill her?
well you could kill Rinda first, it doesn't really matter per se but the thing is Rinda is much harder to stick to and Rodin spams bombs all day
broken token
the "all of the important enemies resist bullets" moment
inner crane
Does Blood Redemption (50% toughness replenishment on melee kill) work well for a martyr build?
ripe quest
well you could kill Rinda first, it doesn't really matter per se but the thing i...
It's also really easy to shit on the bomber man.
coarse birch
Its good in everything
coarse birch
Does Blood Redemption (50% toughness replenishment on melee kill) work well for ...
Yes
ripe quest
I recall my normal run he was on the floor almost the entire time.
Sadly hardmode makes this not as easy
dark zealot
just run from her
delicate shadow
It's also really easy to shit on the bomber man.
yea exactly
ripe quest
how do you deal with sword twin aggro, just block dodge and pray?
You can just dodge
dark zealot
run and gun her
delicate shadow
Rinda is actually easy to duel one on one
ornate bone
glorified dps check ngl
ripe quest
Tis what the Chaxe is for.
delicate shadow
so as long as your group is clearing elites and dunking Rodin whoever is being targetted by Rinda can just dance with her no problem
broken token
so as long as your group is clearing elites and dunking Rodin whoever is being t...
pubs
dark zealot
a power weapon will cheese him as long as doesnt kick you
and you can just dps her with a gun
ripe quest
It's better than Thammer for them and assassination bosses.
broken token
oh if you're pubbing hardmode then my condolences lmao
no damnnation
ornate bone
oh if you're pubbing hardmode then my condolences lmao
not that bad did mine in pubs second try
broken token
It's better than Thammer for them and assassination bosses.
here i go having to spec another weapon :/
ripe quest
here i go having to spec another weapon :/
Chaxe has 2 dump stats so my prayers go to you.
delicate shadow
not that bad did mine in pubs second try
lucky you lol my pubs were hell
broken token
Chaxe has 2 dump stats so my prayers go to you.
and tips to getting a good chaxe?
delicate shadow
rashad dumpsters them
sterile schooner
I love thunder hammer but gotta admit that it's difficult to use well in higher difficulties
delicate shadow
rashad being busted as fuck moment
ripe quest
and tips to getting a good chaxe?
For getting one? No tips in particular.
ornate bone
pubs are funny af too everybody typing funny stuff all game sometimes trashtalk
broken token
For getting one? No tips in particular.
like which mk is good which stats are dump whats a good blessing/perk
ripe quest
I didn't benchmark the Caxe vs the Chaxe for them. All I know is it does way more than Thammer with the Mk XII. Also has the advantage of ruining void shields like it's always done.
sterile schooner
like which mk is good which stats are dump whats a good blessing/perk
I like the mk4, you want dmg shredder and penetration to be high
maiden path
is this game still like 70gbs
ripe quest
like which mk is good which stats are dump whats a good blessing/perk
Both are good. Mk IV has better crowd clear and the Mk XII leans more into the single target. A thing to note is that the Mk IV has revved lights and will stun lock most elites, so that might be more your fancy than just 1 shotting everything. I use Flak + Elites, Flak + Maniac/Cara/Unyielding is fine. Blessings are Thrust/Headtaker/Slaughterer.
maiden path
did they reduce it
ripe quest
Been using it since before I joined the server, the one niche it had in it's darkest moments was the best void shield nuking available.
sterile schooner
Mk4 chaxe lights feels so safe dealing with ragers and maulers
ripe quest
This isn't true.
Every time I've tested it it's applied 1 hits worth.
It's also not great since the ADMs are super high.
clear knot
thunderous to thrust, block to unyielding
verbal thunder
Thanks babes
delicate shadow
thrust to thunderous, unyielding to block (what the others said)
ripe quest
I benchmarked it a bit ago, Thunderous offers a bit higher Carapace damage than Headtaker with the single target rev attacks, and it's a good bit better for the cleave attacks against non-fodder. Thrust is generally used for 1 shots and from what I know surpasses Thunderous by a good amount with the single target attacks.
broken token
Both are good. Mk IV has better crowd clear and the Mk XII leans more into the s...
thanks
broken oriole
what type of heavy chainsaw are you guys fw and what blessings?
calm salmon
I benchmarked it a bit ago, Thunderous offers a bit higher Carapace damage than ...
i just use headtaker/slaughterer
because its hilarious oneshotting all adds
broken token
no thrust on thammer is a crime, lets you oneshot crushers without charge
ripe quest
Headtaker/Slaught is fun. Leans into the momentum playstyle where you just spam everything.
calm salmon
no thrust on thammer is a crime, lets you oneshot crushers without charge
we're talking chain axe
not thammer
broken token
oh
calm salmon
yeah, my chainaxe is slaughterer/headtaker/flak/maniac
or somethin like that
shits fuckin funny
coarse birch
New or old chaxe
calm salmon
old
coarse birch
I run the same on old
calm salmon
I had a couple on vet/zealot
from ages and ages and ages ago
when I copium rolled them
coarse birch
I cant pass up thrust on new chaxe tho
calm salmon
paid off, finally, I suppose
coarse birch
Yeah they were pretty unusable before
ripe quest
yeah, my chainaxe is slaughterer/headtaker/flak/maniac
Actually aiming for the same thing with the Mk XII.
coarse birch
Just felt bad to use
zinc talon
ERETIKS GITTIN LUMPS A COAL
calm salmon
even with full headtaker/slaughterer
zinc talon
AT A HUNDRID MILES AN OUR
coarse birch
What a weapon
ripe quest
They were totally useable just had a horrible learning curve that understandably was annoying to truck through.
calm salmon
the damage profiles on release chain axe were fucking awful
jaunty lava
What's the best way to farm specific blessings? Melk or just plasteel?
coarse birch
Caxe*
coarse birch
What's the best way to farm specific blessings? Melk or just plasteel?
Plasteel
Much faster
clear knot
What's the best way to farm specific blessings? Melk or just plasteel?
upgrade to blue
drowsy anchor
melk is just a passive check
zinc talon
What's the best way to farm specific blessings? Melk or just plasteel?
consecrate to BLUE
coarse birch
I swear i never get 4s from blue
jaunty lava
Ok thanks
zinc talon
blue only takes plasteel, and not a lot at that
clear knot
I swear i never get 4s from blue
its so shit man
even on hi base stat greys
i just dont get t4 blessings unless i go orange 80% of the time.
ripe quest
You hit that same BP with any source of +10% damage from the talent tree and Thrust/Headtaker.
clear knot
so i go to orange, but the most economically effective way is to upgrade to blue only
zinc talon
granted, I got a good deal of mine earlier in the game's development
but for a base stat item say....360+
you should be getting A t4 blessing maybe a third o f the time
now I think what's fucking yall
jaunty lava
Also what's the armor class of the twins?
zinc talon
is they've tiered out the rarity of the blessings themselves
so some pop up every gd time and some never show
serene burrow
guys whats the difference between a zealot and a veteran?
ripe quest
You hit that same BP with any source of +10% damage from the talent tree and Thr...
I've also already said Thunderous is better for Carapace but you can just like, hit the same BPs regardless. It only really does something for light spam on the IV and heavy on the Mk XII. It falls behind with literally any other armor type for the single target attacks.
delicate shadow
it's likely something to do with the fact it's layered rng as well, just a hunch tho
ornate bone
my dad can talk about sad wars. presidents that have been shot and epic patriotism.... wtf am i gonna tell my kids a plage that we got cuz some dude ate a bat maybe , a president that falls asleep during interviews and the great 2 gender debunking.
zinc talon
zealot new chainaxe can oneshot crushers with thunderous and thrust too, as it happens
ripe quest
I'll test on Vet in a second.
ripe quest
zealot new chainaxe can oneshot crushers with thunderous and thrust too, as it h...
It can yeah
zinc talon
I really enjoy mine
although headtaker/slaughter really seems to put in more work
it's just so much fun to do this with a thrust heavy rev
ripe quest
If Thunderous could offer something other than only Carapace damage I'd appreciate it a bit more.
zinc talon
yeah flak is there, but ou've prolly already hit your breakpoints
and unarmored....
yknow it helps with maniac natural armor too
I appreciate that on a couple applications a ton
ripe quest
Headtaker is better than Thunderous for all armor types except Carapace is what I meant.
And they have very similar stacking requirements.
zinc talon
yep no argument
copper hawk
Yes argument..
zinc talon
WRONG.
copper hawk
zinc talon
zinc talon
Jolly did you see the picture of the tacticat posted earlier
we were trying to figure out what theater of war he was in
I figured, Mewkraine
someone else said the meowdle east
ornate bone
too soon
copper hawk
ripe quest
Also @gritty flume I'm not seeing a raw 1 shot on Vet either. What talents were you using? Also I've like triple checked at this point revs only apply a single hits worth of Thunderous. If it's a solo lobby thing I could see it, I've only ever used Thunderous in solo attempts while benchmarking and in the Psyk.
zinc talon
https://tenor.com/view/neko-atsume-vr-me-when-i-fucking-get-you-cat-gif-68718266...
...is this a game
I'm buying my family vr sets for christmas
my mom will have this pre loaded if it's actually real
ornate bone
Also <@141407400455438336> I'm not seeing a raw 1 shot on Vet either. What talen...
this is like a epic debate between 2 greek scholars. only nerdy and weardly horny
zinc talon
Also <@141407400455438336> I'm not seeing a raw 1 shot on Vet either. What talen...
no debuff indicator?
copper hawk
☝️ 
ripe quest
I'm still a bit peeved with the research reddit post saying Revolver was in S tier and it confusing people so yee please
zinc talon
(after the drubbing I took testing for the oldgryn so they could settle a matter for the nomicon I can't help but bring it to other people)
onyx jolt
I'm still a bit peeved with the research reddit post saying Revolver was in S ti...
while i do understand that certain weapons are "better" than others, i think it's cringey for people to put weapons in the tiers
zinc talon
I had to relearn how to set up damage experiments from scratch
onyx jolt
just play one thing and play it well
zinc talon
WELL SAID
fleet zealot
Sometimes I tab into this chat and regret it
copper hawk
It wuz a joke
zinc talon
THE DEADLIEST WEAPON IN THE GAME
copper hawk
A JOKE
zinc talon
IS YOU
copper hawk
Sweeney Snoyd
zinc talon
you're better than you think you are
stop tying yourself to equipment
bring what you feel
fleet zealot
So I must make others regret viewing this chat
zinc talon
modern lintel
So the uh stealth thammer bonk doesnt rlly work on the twins right
ornate bone
do you?
zinc talon
that said, I don't ever want to see another poop shovel again
people who bring poop shovels aren't people
fleet zealot
Tier lists dont work unless it is a massive (relatively) project that is peer reviewed
zinc talon
oh I do myself all the time big boi
ripe quest
while i do understand that certain weapons are "better" than others, i think it'...
It wasn't a proper tier list for full context. It was a look into the winrates of each ranged weapon. They were just categorized as tiers and despite the disclaimers saying it wasn't a tier list, it was taken as one by many people flooding into these channels saying non-meta weapons were meta because really good gimmick players were skewing results.
zinc talon
subscribe to my ogrifans
copper hawk
Peer reviewed tier list
zinc talon
and see what I do with the other stubber barrel
native cargo
Guys I cleaned my glasses and suddenly I can read this chat
fleet zealot
I think we have the peer review for zealot chat but not the manpower or any want to make a zealot book like ogryns did
ornate bone
DO YOU
native cargo
fleet zealot
Some weapons are objectively better or worse
copper hawk
A RAT
ripe quest
I think we have the peer review for zealot chat but not the manpower or any want...
DetectiveHammer was working on one last I saw.
copper hawk
AAAAH !!!
native cargo
Some weapons are objectively better or worse
Yeah like the silly goose 4-50
copper hawk
AAAAAAH
ornate bone
gritty flume
fleet zealot
It is human nature to want everything labeled and listed for convenience
zinc talon
that is...a very trusting lil guy
fleet zealot
DetectiveHammer was working on one last I saw.
Huh ok
fleet zealot
That name doesnt ring a bell but that might be the brain damage
onyx jolt
I really hate players who are obsessed with metas when they don't know game basics
fleet zealot
I really hate players who are obsessed with metas when they don't know game basi...
I know both
What does that make me
zinc talon
opinionated.
fleet zealot
Also i used chaxe before it was meta
onyx jolt
i was running surge staff for a long time before chocob and his youtube army pushed it out there
copper hawk
Makes u knowledgeable in a subject
onyx jolt
now i see a lot of idiot psykers just spamming the staff without using melee
ornate bone
oh shi the comeback clip how will his opponent answer this devastating attack towards his credibillity
onyx jolt
What does that make me
good at the game?
delicate shadow
@ripe quest @gritty flume you nerds have been talking about different chaxes lmao, you're both using different chaxes and diff attacks in those clips
fleet zealot
Thunderous is a shit blessing for what it enables
modern lintel
The only thing i know is the god emperor put the vetern class on this earth soley to suffer worst class in game imo
copper hawk
AQUILA NO
copper hawk
U SPOILED THE FUN
fleet zealot
It is a cool thing
copper hawk
NOOOOOH
native cargo
Look at this smug sonofabitch. Idc if the gun maybe mid (idk my autoguns) but that fucker is like "Hehehehe great stats bad blessings and perks!"
ripe quest
I literally just showed a video displaying that it didn't. Don't look at the debuff numbers look at the damage. If it applied 16 stacks the heavies would do the same damage per hit.
copper hawk
U WERENT ZUPPOSED 2 ZAY IT
ornate bone
I want
ornate bone
<@239404785453760512> <@141407400455438336> you nerds have been talking about di...
the refere come out of nowhere and smacks both down
hnnnnng
ornate bone
thunderous knife
fleet zealot
But slaught, headtaker, and thrust will get you more value than thunderous on chaxe
copper hawk
native cargo
<@239404785453760512> <@141407400455438336> you nerds have been talking about di...
Wait hold up. That is. Fucking
zinc talon
oh, in case yall missed it
ripe quest
<@239404785453760512> <@141407400455438336> you nerds have been talking about di...
I've tested both Chaxe's aquila.
native cargo
IM WHEEZING
zinc talon
I did a semi serious series of videos
ripe quest
Both have the same blessing that function the exact same.
zinc talon
on why you think the flamer sucks and why you're incorrect about that
delicate shadow
well heavy rev vs light rev also
zinc talon
I'll post the thread start a time or two tonight so people can read and watch
fleet zealot
I am not diminishing thunderous value simply stating that in the term of an actual game it’s value is less than the power/damage blessings
ornate bone
AYO WHERE THE MAN GO?????
ripe quest
That's because of bleed ticks oml
That's why I was asking for what talents you were using
fucking hell
fleet zealot
That's because of bleed ticks oml
Thunderous bloodletter new meta chaxe
ripe quest
Thunderous bloodletter new meta chaxe
no
copper hawk
Yez
fleet zealot
Brittleness buffs the bleed debuff 🙂
zinc talon
thread begins with this very scientific experiment on laying stacks with the flamethrower
copper hawk
Omg Am ur right
cerulean pike
A robot made me a coffee
ornate bone
this nerd battle is amazing. we need more of this
copper hawk
Im gonna zay dat naow
coarse birch
A robot made me a coffee
How is it
native cargo
I am not diminishing thunderous value simply stating that in the term of an actu...
If FS keeps on bringing in boss content like the twins then I may just farm a chaxe to have thunderous on it
fleet zealot
thread begins with this very scientific experiment on laying stacks with the fla...
That doesnt solve anything iirc
Flamer is great at what it does
copper hawk
zinc talon
sure doesn't lol
ornate bone
If bleed can proc thunderous, it'd be interesting
zinc talon
scroll down video to video
fleet zealot
The problem is what it can’t do
native cargo
Guys remember when they nerfed flamer
ornate bone
Because as far as I know, the rev itself cannot proc it multiple times
native cargo
sad times
native cargo
smh
zinc talon
I explain how to lay stacks faster with rapid left mouse clicking
fleet zealot
No i dont need to review all the videos on flamer performance that isnt the issue
native cargo
zinc talon
and how to lay even faster than that waving the cone across enemies rapidly
fleet zealot
Stacks arent the fucking issue on why people dropped flamer
zinc talon
then, how to lay stacks faster than that shooting in circles
(not circles like that video)
copper hawk
I should make a video
fleet zealot
Specialist sniper and bomber spam made people drop flamer
copper hawk
Or a series of videos
cerulean pike
How is it
it’s pree good. Taro Latte. But it fucked up with the milk and it’s now more room temp than hot. But tastes alright
copper hawk
Specifically to spread misinformation
fleet zealot
then, how to lay stacks faster than *that* shooting in circles
I can’t say what i want to say to this
coarse birch
it’s pree good. Taro Latte. But it fucked up with the milk and it’s now more roo...
Not bad
copper hawk
W proper editing
zinc talon
heh I bet you can't
zinc talon
I had a couple choice phrases I had to not use while talking
ripe quest
Specifically to spread misinformation
I'm planning on making a second blessing guide version that has devious bits of misinfo on certain weapons.
fleet zealot
Anyways flamer isnt dropped cause players are using it poorly
zinc talon
because, fucking surreal as it was
folks actually started to be like 'wait a sec this is new info this is good'
cerulean pike
Exhil you’re a misinfo
zinc talon
and zealot chat shut up entirely
copper hawk
Ill make zure 2 pit like
zinc talon
and let me talk
copper hawk
Meowin noises
zinc talon
I was flabbergasted
fleet zealot
heh I bet you can't
Oh in that case are you tistic like me cause god damn you are hyperfixating off of what im talking about
copper hawk
Clawsome
fleet zealot
Flamer is and was never dropped because people used it poorly
zinc talon
well, if I'd been borne later I'd prolly have been on the spectrum, yeah
cerulean pike
Anyways time to walk through the mall some more
copper hawk
Bye akari
zinc talon
but it was just ADD/ADHD here take amphetamines when I was young
copper hawk
fleet zealot
It was dropped because the meta demanded you have tools for the specialist spam including bombers and snipers
copper hawk
Off 2 work
cerulean pike
Lookit him go
zinc talon
but no I'm also typing it out for anyone listening who would like bolter and flamer tips they may not know
cuz both guns are still great
you're just using them wrong
broken token
all bolter needs is not shit handling
zinc talon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184184186530189472/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.24.23.52.mp4?ex=658b0c77&is=65789777&hm=2a3d21ac2c41a77bdbbab5984973f00710b21b1e2b90eac282d67e585de177e2&
this I think is the start of rapid left mouse firing vs holding it down
fleet zealot
Flamer is great even if used incorrectly (holding down, not referring to weird fan the flames spammers)
native cargo
Atoma is saved, now vaccuum the virus bomb gas and start rebuilding
fleet zealot
The issue has never been flamer effectiveness at it’s role
You make a great point on how to use flamer optimally
zinc talon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184184947062341792/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.27.38.53.mp4?ex=658b0d2c&is=6578982c&hm=27dd8800662dc3d49dbb7be2c304c411852194398bb1edeaa13baa87d5eacf6a&
this demonstrates why wafting the cone is faster stacks than keeping the cone on an enemy
fleet zealot
But that solves none of the reasons why flamer isnt picked up by peopke anymore
zinc talon
native cargo
ngl I kinda just fanned the flames for 2 seconds then move onto another area when I used the flamer in the hard mode twins fight
rugged arch
Flamer pretty good for boss fights still
native cargo
Specifically in the gas phase
zinc talon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184186307979792484/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.32.00.56.mp4?ex=658b0e70&is=65789970&hm=cf668d2708e472d05ded4eedd2b4c48279a62338a10712d4d66c2181aaf8801e&
this is the highly secret and very advanced 'shooting in circles' technique
fleet zealot
Why take a flamer when a lot of our poor horde clear melees got buffs and can handle horde clear
jaunty lava
The escalator doesn't want to open at the end of the mission. Anyone else had that?
fleet zealot
Why take a flamer when kantrael shotgun can 2 shot snipers and bulwarks with no effort at any range with unlimited pierce
native cargo
Why take a flamer when a lot of our poor horde clear melees got buffs and can ha...
Oh thats easy. Because it looks cool
zinc talon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184187663826300958/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.38.00.59.mp4?ex=658b0fb4&is=65789ab4&hm=107c416fddbadcf8dd6c1531f38ca1e17140f15366a310d1e986a0fb930494f2&
and this is what happens when you tie it all together and also know the specific flamer in your hands pretty well
fleet zealot
flamer is cool and great at what it does and gj finding secret tech
rugged arch
I toted ye olde flamer into the karnak twins fight and it worked purty good imo
fleet zealot
I toted ye olde flamer into the karnak twins fight and it worked purty good imo
Yee, but i will say that map is exceptionally close quarters
ornate bone
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184186307979792484/W...
im gonna play like that for 30 min and throw up
rugged arch
Yee, but i will say that map is exceptionally close quarters
Yea I don't like flamer for anything except boss fights tbh
zinc talon
ah, are you not a third person enjoyer gigachad sigma nuts no cap frfr'er
fleet zealot
And basically has no long range snipers/bombers outside of being on the other side of the room
vestal oyster
guys psyker feels goddamn weak, should i try zealot?
rugged arch
ah, are you not a third person enjoyer gigachad sigma nuts no cap frfr'er
I only play in second person, like a true edgelord
fleet zealot
Like just stop trying to be a counter meta shit head
ornate bone
guys psyker feels goddamn weak, should i try zealot?
try all classes
fleet zealot
When you wont even admit the real reasons flamer isnt being taken
Instead going like “people think flamer sucks cause they are using it wrong”
zinc talon
shrug, I enjoy mine every time I bring it but it has a role to fill and leaves you vulnerable to range
vestal oyster
i am honestly astonished at how shitty psyker feels in the new mission, kinda eye opening
left iron
Lmao good to see people still get butthurt over getting zoned out in fighting games 
ornate bone
When you wont even admit the real reasons flamer isnt being taken
whats the real reas ?
zinc talon
i am honestly astonished at how shitty psyker feels in the new mission, kinda ey...
smite is really, really helpful
fleet zealot
No they switch off of it cause their melee weapons can now function for horde clear with all the buffs across the board and because pubs cant be relied on to kill bombers and snipers
graceful musk
is this uh limited?
zinc talon
especially to lock and push the horde so you can cross the room
graceful musk
kinda want that
vestal oyster
smite is really, really helpful
somehow whenever i hold smite for the big circle room, there's always a second horde behind me
ornate bone
paid cosmetic in the shop's rotation
fleet zealot
whats the real reas ?
Increased specialist spam, mainly bombers and snipers
zinc talon
the people in my orbit beating hard mode twins won't do it without a smite lock