#zealot-class
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Any recommendations on what to replace infested damage with?
chaxes definitely work
ye
yep 😄
Oh hell yeah
Peg leg and all
The new Chainaxe? I cant seem to be able to clear mobs decently with them. Not even able to one shot the chaff
Or should I say....fuck i can't think of any pirate puns
yeah that's, what... $7? ish?
min bundle is now 2900 aquilas
Anyone else unable to chat in darktide?
yeah messages are not going through
nvm, u can get less if u use the button on a cheaper item xD
When you load into a mission it says you're still on the mourningstar.
voice chat?
Crit chance, you have critproc, you want critproc to proc more.
VC and Text chat borked.
aye thank yah
Chat's fudged
Server issue, or hotfix?
Idk
Guys, is there a black outfit for the zealot ? That is secretely obtainable throw penance ?
If yes, plz tell me how to obtain it plz
did you just start the game
cause it breaks sometimes and you gotta just restart the game
its just funny, u can run around and yell: WHERE IS DETONATOR!
to fix your chat
i cant xD
I’d rather replace weak spot with flak/maniac
The new heavy las pistol is so good oml
las pistol is the one thing where i might doubt to replace WP dmg bonus
it’s still garbage added damage
finesse weapons wants weak spot damage and crit chance.
on las pis its decent...
Tried out sneaky knife zealot last week, its been alot of fun, but do other players get caught alot by trappers because you cant hear when in stealth mode, same for dogs and demon hosts, have ran into them alot. Doesn't help knife moves so fast lol
What is your talent tree and weapon build? The chaxe is a bit slow by default so weapon speed helps it. It doesn't horde clear insanely good but it should be able to clear it decently enough with shoves weaved in between your light spam
undless you fish for some special breakpoints that will get fucked next patch anyway.
nice to see the chat bug is back
wowie a whole
30 damage
more like 300
Doing the usual martyrdom build and using this caxe
replace infested with maniac or elites
30 more damage aint bad
30 more damage is pretty insignificant
New chaxe spams lights for clear but it isnt that good but that is kinda the point
^
new chaxe lights demolish things what
use new Evi, that thing is a goddamn beast
kant laspistol has really good dmg vs flak already, u can spec into things like elites and or maniacs and cover more bases/get more general utility
Also dont ever go crit chance perk 25% damage always better
25% damage also applies to the infernus dot
for zealot play either revolver or agrippina shotgun
no perk / weakspot perk / maniac perk
Yeah its my new evis build, switched with the new CAxe and honestly it feels like a huige downgrade 😦
Stop making me have to tap the fucking sign
No
columnus iag is a decent choice too
Agri shotgun sucks rn
lol
It is massively out scaled
only use these two guns i say to use
This is also maniac perk on tier 1
Already does more damage than tier 4 weak spot
The new chaxe is great but what we are saying it isn't horde clear intense as other weapons. Its a cracked weapon just got weaknesses cus chain weapon and the need to brrr into enemies
If you want a high damage single shot weapon vraks7 is better (but revolver is king)
lmao
No
No I will spout nonsense
Vraks 7 is is just better
With a larger mag
Kanty is the shotgun for zealots
agri lets you burst, snipe and staggery
And lawbringer is better than agri
bro said, i HAVE to spread misinfo
Damn right
Like vraks 7?
yes
Guys did you know that wrath is better than savage sweep?.
You can keep it up more regularly trust
Like taking revolver out of the equation right now kantrael, lawbringer, and vraks HHs are better than agri
What are some good ranged weapons to use with the new evic?
at least you said wrath and not devastating strike
whatever ranged weapon you want tbh
just not lasguns or agri shotgun cause they're just too slow
but welcome to the version of the game where 90% of weapons are actually viable
I'll spread misinfo until someone actually thinks this way then I'll quickly correct it because
Ya know
cause you're a fucking rat yes we know
agri shotgun struggles to hit breakpoints in damnation and isn’t efficient. Im saying this as someone who loved agri shotgun
Yesm
It is power crept and left behind
something to pick up disablers fast, zarona rev, columnus iag or kant sg should be good
Stop spreading fake news.
I used agri shotgun in the good ol' past when it was the only shotgun. as ve
Everyone sleeping on vraks HH they are ridic if you can chain headshots
Here we see the wild "only been in this discord for a month"
no
Regularly giving shit takes
Like, vraks 3 can mow down crushers without chastise good
vraks hh has been known to be insane as soon as the talent tree came out with the buffs for it
I can not read nevermind
Columus iag? what's the "iag"?
but still
shit takes
The agri shotgun saved my family's life once. Four heretics broke into my house and thankfully I had my God emperor standard agri shotgun by my side
infantry autogun
infantry autogun
i mean
👍
I’ve been playing agri shotgun on vet for almost this entire game’s lifespan I know what Im talking about
Although i had to resort to the gunlugger stubber when seven more appeared and went to the stairs
as soon as i saw this
(in terms of perks)
i already knew things coming out of him was gonna be garbo
Sadly I hit the neighbors pox hound
so like
Infantry autogun
Ahh yes the youtube viewer/ redditor opinions
Ill stop interacting with them
this is the reason i clown on people
Finesse weapons only want that when they can get it en masse
This is why I spread misinfo mid conversation
Hello. Where do I "spam" for the special mission hard mode? In one of the lfg groups or?
Like precognition or deadly accurate
yeah you can go look at the lfg chats
#vox-lfg-lexicanum then pick your region
for that stuff
Sometimes I may support the wrong side. Why? They may not listen anyways
Thanks
And might as well let the chaos last longer ig
For perks? Anything with weakspot or crit might as well be stam or sprint efficiency
They are in my tummy
i'd rather take stam than weakspot or crit tbh
wrong
stam and sprint eff dont add damage
weakspot and crit do.
is there a quick way to switch the blitz instead of reseting the whole talent tree?
there's a mod for it
u can make 2 loadout with 2 different talent trees
Yeah sadly you gotta reinstall the game to reset your blitzes
imagine not using all 5 loadouts already
ye, ia m a filthy casual
Might as well be at less than 4% damage boost perks
here's the mod i was talking about
they dont add damage
It's still so funny how a tier 1 armor damage modifier is better than a t4 crit/weakspot damage modifier
eh, damage too low?
I suppose, the horde clear is still quite good imo, not weak just average, the lights also do a fair whack of elite damage
yeah priest is bein cringe
i'd rather watch red leave me to die running away with his axe again
no
Nope looks good collat a bit high
do you want to be fed to the burster waves again little man
But collat is a stupid stat anyways
hm?
I would've said I'd rather look at Stan's food gallery but no, that's still worse than priest's cringe
nothing is worse than stan's food gallery
dont worry about it
Akari thinking better of the hell they choose
collat isnt a bad stat to have high
i will :3
i got the three doors problem incan
Yes it is
It is purely stagger knockback
on bolter? no.
behind one door it's red running into battle while im downed
behind another is priest being cringe
the last one it's stan making food
and all the doors open up to cringe 
They do. It's a good weapon. Just gotta do a shove or two more than the other weapons.
It is best to be at 60% so it staggers bulwarks and everything
Incan's first lethal company game was watching nearly the whole party die to dogs at Titan (I think) while I had to sneak into the ship to save our stuff
your first mistake was going to titan
That is the highlight of my career on that game
vet got a decent skin pack i must admit XD
Literally i walk in and it was a scene outta a horror movie. We had the more company mod and
It was a slaughterhouse
Just terrifying
Never again 
rat did not beat the eyeless dog allegations
Seems decent for a first roll. I plan to replace crit by flak damage. Anything else I should replace?
He not fw the +5% chance to do 50% more damage⁉️ 🗣️
I run flak and carapace perks and savage sweep and the blessing that bleeds on special attacks. You can 1shot crushers with that on heresy and ALMOST 1shot them on damnation
Work it in with dualist
almost 1 shot
garbage tier, remove immediately
Heck with Duelist, take a wound on a Martyrdom build
cloud radius too low?
posts perfect weapon: "is this bad?????"
eh
I don't know how you'll ever hit something with this
i meannn
Me leaving the reading of the last will and testament of my third husband to die of mysterious circumstances
(I'm 'heartbroken')
Did you eat him
Toy maker from castlevania
sadly there wasn't enough of him left to know for certain
science will never know I'm afraid
My theory is he imploded
Actually beginning to think Infested might be a good choice for it
there certainly is less of him now than before the tragic accident
Thrust already destroys nearly everything, the only thing it lacks is clear speed
is that freaking Eggman
tell me that doesn't look like Eggman
Not even close
not at all, basically close to perfect which is completely fine for auric damn
more than fine really
I think peole try to minmax a tad too much
yes
jim carrey made a great eggman ngl
The christmas character was better, no cdi/ make up
cdi
Like twitch atm
someone asked me to make a video for my evis build
and like, i will. but also, just left click man idk
eviscerator is very nuanced and complicated
twitch should just make a secondary platform
sometimes to hit m1, and sometimes you hold m1 a little bit
that competes with the funny blue site
no way
2nd bet i better.
why compete
ppl losing their minds over twitch changes is funny af to me
whatre you mad about big dog
i'm not ,losing my mind
i like it 🙂
art part taking off.
oh i wasnt talking about you
what did twitch change
jsut ppl in general
i think we should ID lock kids out from the platform/certain parts of the website
basically a cam site?
like, you can't even view/preview stuff that is high ratedc
seeing chuds mald all day was/is funny
no, it's not a cam site, doing just nude stuff will get you banned (saw vtubers getting hit)
still no underboobs either
I can see the argument, but I wouldn't go with it since the issue isn't damage its cleave. The issue isn't that big since it kills quickly anyways especially with momentum stacks. Just gotta do a shove or 2 when you are fighting hordes
has to be a certain level of artistic
Art part of the site is purely, that.
Anyways
yee pretty good
change flechette to death spitter or fire frenzy, and infested to uhh
flak, maniac, or unyielding
yeah u can swap flechette to full bore and infested to flak and ur smooth sailing
fullbore is good too
Just saying guys if all of Tertium had a home defense agri shotgun this war wouldn't have happened
What if I run a crit heavy build? Could Flechette be funny.
I really like the idea of alt firing bleeding flame rounds.
Some of that hannya'd be nice
no, not really, its only really viable on the lawbringer iirc
the kant shotgun special cleaves through everythign except walls n shit
will go through bulwarks and every enemy you can see so long as a solid object isnt in the way
wrath to savage sweep and sprit eff to maniac/elites
Sprint with crit on damage and rampage with bloodletter.
So by that logic a flechette scattershot kantrael shotty would be fun.
And just spam specials.
not really
A 60% crit increase ontop of all of the other zealot crit bonuses?
Still not viable lol.
ah that sucks
it's funny but not as good as you think it will be
i go with fullbore over FF or DS since its uptime is higher in my experience and doesnt need a kill to proc
wish it were the funny haha interaction we all hoped it would be but alas
Wait really?
So i wasted all my plasteel
..for now, at least
be me
open a wound on this dude
set him on fire
wound gets cauterized
he stops bleeding
sadly yeah
dw I learned the hard way also
Beep boop
gm zealot chat
Gm Guardian
Scattershot/Man Stopper enjoyers stay winning.
steak and cheese with onions, mixed sweet peppers, jalepenos, chipolte mayo, and cherry pepper relish
that's too much flavor bomb
It's delicious
All I get is just meat and cheese with a side of an apple
It's provolone cheese, to lower the flavor profile lol
(I throw it at people)
I actally have a god roll kanty in inventory rn with fire frenzy and hit and run, just waiting to unlock a high tier no respite so I can actually run it
replacing hit and run ofc
tbh any tier of no respite is solid
Heavy sword?
mk6 hsword my beloved
Yes, mk6 heavy!
hsword will be nerfed one day 
so many things will hopefully be nerfed one day
Yikes
We know it, you know it, the fatshark coding team knows it...
WHY WRATH
even reddit probably knows it...
WHY AHHHH
yeah the balance is kinda all over the place right now
😱
It's ass
WHY
WHY UOU WANNA NERF THINGS SPITEFULLY
M,EANIE
Emperor loved me. Think it can be a decent wep
heavy sword needs a tone down yes but it's kinda in a nice spot design wise having clear weaknesses (carapace and unyielding)
Ran it once on malice i think
AHRHFEWHUGVWENBBVRW AQUILA IM GUNNA PHOTOSHOP U SAYING U HATE ZEALOTS
reminds me of my wrath savage sweep sword I had in the pre order beta
cleave must be good
Cool pose.
smh u dirty pearl clutcher
WHY NERF THINGS IN A PVE GAME
just give it time...
nerf revolver, buff agri
omg they should only buff things
the cycle of liufe
pvp roots...?
buffing things is the only way to make game good and playabel!
Compensate for new weapons.
add moar enemies
you nerf things in pve games cause you can't buff everything to has good as the S+ tier weapons
it's just not feasable
MORE enemies
I just don't know how to balance agri and revolver at the same time, I just want agri to be revolver
make agri hit harder since it has less pen
did I need a /s on that message or something
right not revolver pens armor, hits multiple enemies, and does more damage
let agri be a boomstick
for it not being able to punch armor well or collat enemies
yeah but for what, revolver already one shots everything

I wanna do the hidden achievement for the orthus offensive.
I wonder if I just pug into random groups and enable it.
.>
Hope for a run skip.
idk about you guys... but all I feel like doing is sleeping, lately...
Wym a run skip?
it is pain and suffering to do it in ubs
I haven't felt like gaming at all this past week...
Ring
everyone has to hit the hardmode bell
for hardmode to activate ( the one at the end)
At start there are two bells, one for completed normal and one for completed hardmode.
I don't care about hardmode right now... sleep calls to me harder...
For the mk7 tact axe do you just spam light or is the heavy used too?
if a person hasn't unlocked it then oop
cba to carry, solo.
I'm confused what you mean?
devs to slow on bolter reload.
im pretty sure as long as one person in the team has the bell everyone can use it
huh
Light bolter?
what does "the bell" do...?
i also preface I haven't done it yet, I'm on a bit of a grind quest
just did the damnation clears and hit my bells
I did a heresy run first to learn the mechanics then did a damnation run and my team said lets go hardmode ,and the bell was there for me
..?
teleports you to the boss
There are two bells that let you skip to the end boss fight of the twins mission, one for normal (I think Damnation only?) and one for hard mode.
all my teams yesterday ran the fuck past them
I think people just dont konw
tbf you would need to beat the mission and then go back to it again
if you say something most people turn around and ring the bell
i think you need to be premade and have made the puzzle before
no i did it in pubs
I don't know shit about the new content, I haven't played since it was released
i was in pub and there was no bell
🤷♂️ i did a heresy run then switch to damnation and my team already had the hardmode bell
then likely no one in your party cleared it yet, let alone cleared hardmode
i find this funny fsr
i cleared the normal mode multiple time
do you need to clear hard mode to unlock the normal bell?
damnation? and it's easy to miss the bells are tiny and everoynr runs past them
they should really have a soft green glow
or a passive sound
like grims?
yee
i know where they are
like grims
I think the bells are only there for damnation runs?
you can do the bells on any difficulty, you will get the teleport as long as you complete the mission
then i dunno why you arent getting nay bells Orgerix
isn't tied to having done the bell puzzle once?
for teleport to appear u need to complete it once on damnation as far as i know
in my experience as long as someone else has done it in your team it'll appear
might be wrong ofc...
yes, you have to do the bells and complete the mission in which you did the bells
Same with hardmode
i was able to ring the bell for damnation hard mode without having done the puzzle
yeah as long as one in the party has it I believe it shows up for everyone
ok, so I didn't do the bells then. Pretty much impossible to do in pub
Prob one in group who finished it?
i guess 1 person that did it in team is enough then
yah thats my guess
persume so, or a glitch?
it's not
i did them in all my pubs
my teammates just ignored them/didn't even bother
I will warn you all though, this shit is legit ball busting hard, I got lucky my first pub team was good and we did it
but fuck its hard
everything might be with fatshark xD
so I just had the guide open and went to each one in order and smacked them teh X amount of times
revolver is pretty balanced tbh, especially if you run mid blessings like handcannon and surgical
one shotting crushers is very overrated
I thought Handcannon was one of the better blessings?
Super balanced
(I'm talking mad shit do not take it seriously pls)
ran it 3 times before i got it, one on damn 2nd people for a premade before they settled and it done on 2nd try as premade.
Ew
sarcasm was implied
i r dum
He's cooking! Let him cook!
I eat my bullets and spit them at the enemy
was gonna say 
yesterday thou, 3 try, or 2nd cause i looked around the map
revolver is overpowered as shit and anyone who can't see that is skill issued
well no because I miss all my shots and the reload is long
also, I didn't follow, but is the special mission permanant or is it just an holiday event?
so #balanced
I love the revolver no lie on that
It is powerful, but, it just doesn't suit my playstyle
Surgical?
yee
Blessing?
that or my aim
i just, like rifles
Favorite weapon but my nose would be like pinnochio everytime he lied if I said it was balanced
like, nothing beat the fealing to shit on a hord of rager with a brauto in my opinion
even outside of surgical the thing can get crazy crit rate on any class to get those HC procs
op or on point? ;D
Didn't compensate for the old revolver?
Well, old knife never staggered a trapper.
it didnt oneshot crushers 😢
Try harder
stop trying to stagger trappers in melee
i guess trapper managed to xDD
Well played. 
wowza!! thanks, melk!!!
I wanna sleep but I need just one more contract to get the melk stuff nessecary to obtai thee chaxe
but... its a brick...
not yet it aint
if it gets a good 2nd blessing i can replace specialist damage and momentum
ud beter replace WP dmg then specialist XDDD
wtf...
that perk gives close to non bonus since it buffs only wp part of the number
so even spec dmg buff would be beter XXD
I swear man the teammates I get in Darktide 😭
200+ hours in and finally found something truly perfect in the shop
It's not a hard game.
Well, if a psyker is in group with the talent, it's less time of the combat ability no?
Awfull movability
Bruh the teammates I get are more like uhh..
ill take what i can get
wdym?
Fking 80/80/80/80
shredder stat is kinda crucial for that weapon thou
combat attacks of it gives no movement
reliant upon stam curio
im not much of a chain sword guy but is 60 vs 80 movement on it that significant?
Nop, personal prefrence.
imo if the sprint speed isnt negative, i'll take it
i say cleave targets is a dump stat on evi xD
yeah its not lookin too hot
another chain sword question, should i take wrath or cleave from this? (got it as a mission reward a while ago but again i dont use this weapon type much)
that is literally the perfect stat spread
Is it just me or do people just keep fucking leaving the orthus mission
for no reason
like just randomly quitting
on most weapons yes, but on that evi i would take mobility over cleave
didn't like what you are running
first try and two people left
I don't give a fuck what you are running, I've put up with worse teammates and I am confident in what I can handle. :/
the original question that stemmed from was a chainsword, and even then
so many numbers wth
I still think it has too much jank to be labeled as best
Heavy on the new reaver is strike down or vanguard? old one has cleave in it so prob..??
chaxe is dogshit
one-shotting dreg bruisers
people use it because it's temporarily overtuned
chastising after landing a rev'd hit
gonna get the chainsword treatment
2-shotting ragers, or 1-shotting with light rev
rip bozo
very fast killing ofr crushers with justr light spam
I'll keep using chaxe cause I'm a boomer
you are dogshit 😠
if u think chaxe aint got jank i got news 4 u bbgurl
that damage has been in the game for like, 3 patches now
and it wasn't till this patch till people noticed
I noticed it long ago...
I've... had times my rev didn't rev on the chainaxe and new eviscerator...
i didnt like the chainaze cause it felt like it just clings to a target and leaves you vulnerable for no reason
also i never seen anyone using old chaxe since introduction of new chaxe
against an elite, that is
you are being baited
you know it was reworked, right
both chaxes have a simple moveset
and if you try to do random shit, you'll get pwned
the new chainaxe i dont like because the impact feels wacky
you know you can dodge out of the rev, right...?
I just don’t see the point in taking chaxe over evis for the range alone
that's new
I know
(other than rule of cool) which is why i use it lmao
pretty sure range is illusionary
higher damage
thats new lol
Chaxe has way greater single target damage
I know that's new lol
and, i believe, with both Slat and Headtaker it has better wave clear
like no fucking shit it's new xD
simply matter of blessings at this point
mk4 chaxe, ONLY USE HEAVIES AND PUSH ATTACK for clear
use lights for single target dps,
and rev'd heavies to stagger/focus a single enemy
yea but it's been a year
the mk 4 is kind of the opposite of the new chain-axe
and people still go like "I don't like chaxe cause the lights stick when im fighting a horde"
heavies for horde clear, instead of lights
chaxes are cool but eviscerators have style points for being swords
SO STOP USING LIGHTS
Don't even need to rev, just light spam works ab out as well
i am running new evi now, i usually end up aurics with 85k+ boss dmg at average
I ONLY USE LIGHTS ON THE NEW CHAINAXE
you don't need to rev but the CC/insta stagger is nice
most of the time yes, lights are more dps than rev'd heavies not putting in thrust or bloodletter
New chaxe and new evi basically same weapons now. Except chaxe has way better blessings
Thrust on new chaxe allows you to one-shot crushers
also chaxe can roll headtaker slaughterer which is uhh
okay but if i wanna use light attacks?
kinda bullshit blessing combo
use the new chaxe
You use them against elites and bruisers
Against hordes you use heavies
or only use light attacks on mk4 when you want single target dps
which is why it is better than evi at wave clear
No melee damage resistance for curios?
since we're talking about the new evi...I think it's decent XD (far right score being new evi+high noon)
ffs anyone else getting crushes when talking to Milky?
New eviscerator is just a better, stronger executioner sword >.>
no, exe is faster
New Evis has the upper hand with Unyielding.
since it does not stick to targets revving
That's why I didn't say faster
Heh, lol
???? only 2 targets in trhe game are unyielding
I am a massive executioner sword fanboy, so the new eviscerator is scratching dat itch
and you should be using ranged against monsters anyway
lights vs unyielding is fine
I very disliked executioner, since it is not a fuckn weapon
it is a tool
But i like new evi
deathspitter on lawbringer?
they are in warhammer
You see... new eviscerator takes what was good about the executioner sword, and enhances upon it
in fact it's preferred vs chaos spawn cause spawn likes to break your heavies for some reason
and they made the push attack somewhat relevant lol
No respite first
Try knife zealot at malice maybe heresy??
my full charged, revved and fury'd overhead says something else.
But then again, between those charges, deffo ranged
People leave.
Regardless of what has Unyielding, if you're looking at single target damage it's important to bring up that new Evis is better for normal bosses and 2 ogryns and new Chaxe is better for assassination targets and the twins.
whar
Fully charging doe snot increase damage...
cough knife zealot sucks cough... COUGH ESPECIALLY WITH THE MK 3 KNIFE COUGH
Gotta lay out the deets so people can pick what they want.
Then, fire frenzy / deathspitter / full bore / scattershot
imagine taking the one thing I put in there just for the sake, to try and invalidate me being right XD
ranged isn't always the best option
jeez
you ned thrust for rev'd heavies to be worthwhile
Sure... skill can make up for the knifes.... knifeness... but that's skill, rather than the weapon itself
how does it suck?
chaxe does much better as a fast weapon
horde clear...?
but the bleed... /s
doesn't really give much horde clear on damnation...
all the horde get bleed and then die to something else
dpw i put the S for a reason
if the team is lacking horde clear... something is wrong
You can't rely on pugs >.>
bleed knife is the worst option you could pick for horde clear
Yee against bosses you'd ideally want Headtaker/Thrust. With a proper build it's like, what a 7-8 shot on a Plague Ogryn? New Evis drops it down a bit.
if you are pubbing
is the worst weapon*
the mk 6 knife I can see some use
but you arent taking it for horde clear
bleed knife isn't picked for horde clear, it's the best the knife can do at horde clear XD
and it's decent
even on auric damnation
wrong
uncanny+ precog
on the new knife slaps
not great
haven't played the new knife
but it is fun to watch
cause knife objectively does everything it does well, worse than other weapons XD
havent had the chance to really try the new knife properly its alright... its a knife
let's see... bromentum caxes, heavy swords, taxes 2 and maybe 4, catachan devil's swords, crushers, both thammers... all of these are better than the mk 3 knife at horde clear lol
mk3 (old knife) only has one thing better than new knife
No side arm?
I'm just stating the melee weapons lol
It does fine for single target. I recall it doing like 10k a PA against a boss.
play hammer though for single target
Ranged zealot?
the knife is inherently a single target weapon. it's much more effective to play to its strength rather than its gigantic weakness
Can use any of those melee weapons to horde clear better than the knife
play hammer though for single target
I would genuinely rather have a knife than a thammer if I wanted to fight smaller elites.
like if I take a catachan on my ranged zealot... my horde clear is immensely better than the mk 3 knife lol
the fuck? knife is way more mobile and in a fair number of cases is putting out similar/better single target numbers on elites
but that's not because the knife is objectively better. It's that most people who run knives, are objectively better players
hardly ever seen a bad knife zealot.
seen a lot of dumb hammer users
Running insta kill human size or bleeds releaves a burden.
your experience
some enemies bleed out.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
stupid people play every weapon
XD
Hadron.. youse a ho
nope, i've seen bad people on every weapon
Nothing there means anything to what I said. I wasn't arguing the quality of the players lol.
not just an experience. it's how the game works
then it went over your head.
And your catachan will kill those enemies faster than they would have bleed out from the knife. The mk 3 knife is not hitting tons of enemies with heavies as well
but how is my experience diff then?
it has single target heavies lol
shame about the perks... though with the new boss blocking is great
since haymaker is only on heavies
Kicked for kill off all gunners while team got revived.. worth it.
you haven't played the game enough
people are gonna be bad on any loadout
anyone ever manage to survive the hard mode twins past the first gas cycle?
rager spam keeps wiping
the fuck kind of knife users have you seen, they are ALL absolutely useless
solo clutchers, or just solid players, really
rogue tank is so fun in this new season of classic wow
I've seen at least 2 or 3 pretty darn good knife zealots, in my near 1.5k hours
I see most knife users in Maelstrom
in 12 months I've seen maybe 3 people with a knife that do anything at all
30% dodge chance, 35% parry chance
never disappoint, except a very few select times
i've met as many mouthbreather hammer zealots won't won't melee a bon because "it eats me!!!!" as i have idiot knife zealots running around dying to poxwalkers
and at least 5-7 average knife zealots...
they are hot ass
^ That's the rest of the knife zealots I have seen
the only person I've seen run knife properly is the mk6 by redverse
none of the pub knife zealots i meet get a chance to solo clutch cuz im not fkin dying
reminsd me of the person i asked "does your hammer have thrust on it " after I watched him tap a boss and he had a mental breakdown
95% useless. There are 5% that do something
yeah
I don't trust those randos even if they have a god-tier build and weapon combo
"DON'T CRITICIZE MY BUILD"
And it's replacing them in exchange for a different teamate /j
Anyways
I've been scarred by useless randos enough times, lol
Half of them don't even grab plasteel. Like what the actual fuck. That is your job bro
to be fair like, 7/10 pub hammers don't know how to hammer
if you are having to "solo clutch" you already failed
lol
the best part of the knife is the speed to get to the team and revive them
no one else has ever made a mistake
I don't know how to hammer properly, but, I know how to use it somewhat effectively x.x

if they are all dead, you failed
-> They put Terrifying Barrage on their ranged weapon 
Their build is just simply top tier and any other to say otherwise is a filthy pelgrim
i like how knife users think being able to move around is a knife exclusive feature
Granted I really like the cleave damage on the ironhelm, tbh
it's saddening
I prefer the crucis, but, I really like the horde cleave on the ironhelm... it's hella satisfying
On the mace that gives me coin?
i know ive made a couple people come to learn how to use hammer based off my pub performance which is nice
I've shown people the mediocre way, a couple times, at least
i should probably censor the name too one sec
Not the pro way to use that weapon, but, a more adequate way
it does it a lot better that some other weapons do though
I kinda understand why people think that. There are speedrunners who use knife exclusively for the movement while some having the opinion that knife does absolutely nothing and it gives the impression that knife is only used for the movement speed by good players.
Isn’t that summary of class channels on that discord? 🤣
I had a Crucisboii who ignored the two monstrosities that spawned in the map. I was so confused. y u no bonk?
guy was 'managing the horde'
Bruh
it was pain
I know the knife can do something, but, it is limited as far as the mk 3 goes
the mk 6 has WAY more utility, imo
it's more that the people that use the knife do nothing and have no idea how to actually use it
ehh i'll do it later
knife is for going fast so u can rez ur teammates faster

dont have to be smart or know what you are doing if you keep everyone alive
oh god
keep everyone alive by not killing anything, wow good job!
Thought that was the psykers job.
except being smart and knowing what you are doing helps keep you yourself alive...?
I see both as basically the same weapon with a moveset flip. I spam the shit out of PAs on the Mk III when it's viable and I took 1 look at the Mk VI and I saw I'd do the same shit but in a different flavor.
kinda dead if the rest of the squad is well dead
Not always, especially not from my own experiences lol
I do enjoy watching a knifeboii get surrounded and just tickle the horde while they get chipped away. idk how you let that happen but I only quickplay w/ randos so I assume newbies
I've pulled off plenty of solo clutches
If the heavies offered like, actual cleave damage I'd like it more. But doing 500 and then 50 to 2 ragers is kinda dumb
Emporor is a powerful psykic
Clutching is one of my skill sets :/
mfw the speedrunning knife user rushers ahead of the entire group and has to wait for them to catch up (they will NOT be getting a new pb)

Unlike using the EVISORATOR
HUH
I STILL REMEBER
One day. 
Oh god
psyker cant go invis
THATSA RIGHTTTT
only the knife can use stealth duh
Nothing else
Emporor sacrifices psykers no?
The people who actually do it properly do it in private duos or solos. People who do it in pubs are a waste of breath imo.
Did hadron brick this?
look at this
meanwhile my hapless ass over here using stealth with the heavy sword lol
you abandoned this
I can't tell if Hadron fucked me or not.
ermmmm
shes kinda shit on you
That's an amazing fucking weapon
but tis saveable
could be salvaged
Dark what did you do to put insane freak on his villain arc
What do I do to salvage it?
its the only god roll i have a I think
YOU COULD HAVE HAD THIS
BUT YOU RUINED IT
what're those two blessings every bolter users?
I didn't use the mk 2 eviscerator when it fucking sucked
shattering impact and smth else it hink
not what i said at all but its certainly a good way to compliment the speed to be able to get to the downed person and get them up in time to not get slapped out of the revive
So I don't replace the perks? I just leveled up another bolter to max tell me if this one is any better to salvage.
i think pinning fire and shattering, but im not a bolter main
I'd rather have a stealth vet than a stealth zealot, at least they are usually willing to kill things and revive
so im kinda new to zealot, but why would you use the combat blade?
I also like the new eviscerator since it has most of the move set of the executioner sword
Could put Shattering over Caval and then replace one of those perks?
Lore is great
yeah, shattering on cavalcade and switch weakspot for uhhhhhhhhhh something
Which one of these bolters is better for salvage?
prolly flak
Left one Ver?
Sadly you never saw me in action when I was using shroudfield as my main career skill. I used it for reviving, killing, clutching, etc lol
either one works
I've been on a chastise hot-streak
Which one can I do better with tho.
Well, I’ve got my mk15, crit build and right now I can bitch about lack of my skills or sometimes brain dead randoms
Grandpa's got the shmoves lol
what is he listening to
i'd run the 380, slap on pinning fire and change weakspot to either elite or flak
since the new talent tree i haven't liked fury of the faithful at all
unless you feel confident in dumping mags on heads
I can see the emperor being a eurobeat type as well lol
Okay so 380 pinning fire and elite or flak got it.
bolter wants surgical
This is zealot chat not veteran chat.
real
Now I want to listen to Aviators more lol
vet gets better crit talents
oh fuck had no idea where i was, oh no wait this is the only chat i go into
bolter has big finesse dmg
cmon you gotta admit this is is a nice talent especially with the other damage reductions buffs you can get
Bolter also has colossal recoil, if you're standing around plinking shots as a zealot you're playing zealot wrong.
and lets be real in 5s you get that back
It's pretty manageable.
just run in stab stab stab, bleed em a bunch and go invis, recover and buff up then back to work or go get that teammate back in the fight. its fun
I never watched Puss in Boots The Last Wish... but Aviators made a great song about it
In the meat grinder sure it's manageable.
In an auric damnantion.
A little less so.
Gotta juggle enemies, deal with your bolter's stagger, deal with your bolters reload.
sure its not the objectively best most meta cheese sweaty number mangangement sim possible...
The recoil doesn't change between the two.
but like if you are using a knife... you clearly arent using it for that anyway
so its a dumb thing to argue
"wow the boat doesnt work on land"
No but the fact the enemies are shooting you back, suppressing you, running after you, and everything else does change between meat grinder and auric damn.
the stupid ass suppression is worse
That's why the new revolver is the best zealot ranged weapon imo.
new revolver is ass
I'm actually interested in the new revolver due to it having more ammo x.x
it's at best half as good as old revolver
its funni though
Oldvolver is better
Old revolver is better, but, the new revolver has more ways to compensate for my aim
that video is a PSYOP
I don't see people 1 magging chaos spawns with old revolver
cool zealot build that old revolver definitely can't do oh wait
okay but that thing aint schmoving
yea this is zealot chat omg
Yeah basically
Yeah but saying the new revolver is trash is wild.
good luck doing do that when the cracked out chaos spawn is flying around smashing you in walls
It's bad
Just one more contract and I'll have this damn chaxe
it is very much a gimmick weapon though
That's so wild.
I can easily kill 3x the stuff on old revolver per mag
It's fun, but does nothing better than what you use the old volver for
How do i make this fit for Orthus?
I didn't say it did anything better
I said it wasn't trash.
the old revolver was liked because you just use one solid shot to kill a priority target and go back to your melee
I have 7000 plasteel from grinding orthus so
i absolutely have plasteel to spare getting new ones
My only claim was that new revolver fits zealot better because you can go in chop stuff up and when a big fucker appears you just quickswap and fan the hammer.
You can't lol
guh?
2 ragers in 1 shot or 2 ragers in 4-5
That ironhelm is bricked
You'd want Thrust + Headtaker/Slaught and for the Twins smth like Flak + Cara.
Right, there is no reason to use it other than it's funny cowboy gun
What's the usecase for a bolter. Ready speed and reload speed are so slow it seems almost unusable, especially at high difficulty, despite glorious damage output and splash.
the new relvolver is like the bolter but if you had 5 shots and only the full auto
My zealot friend just a flesh wound meta just got updated.You drop in,tp to the boss room and bully the karnak twins so that you finish under 20 minutes
Idk what you're smoking I've not used any revolver that takes 5 bullets to kill a rager. 🤣
To be fair, if we go by that metric the helbore is the best weapon in the game
the easy penance is easier
Lol

I've also got this hammer... but it has dump damage
That one is better than the other one
I think the old revolver is stronger, but new revolver isnt bad
both hammers are rough
Actually, is crucis or ironhelm better here
uh try reading again
yeah i have plasteel to burn getting new ones
Easy penance but it the only rédacted one i don't have 🥲🥲
i've beaten orthus on every one except zealot
both have uses
