veteran-class

[shrewd topaz]

Go my weight of fire 3a

[tall torrent]

V also very good if u take 15 stack MF

and yea I think it comes down to IIIa and V now

[latent star]

IV is pretty good into maulers, I think the advantgage to IV is you can run it with something like Tac Axe which isn't great against Carapace and still run frags and still have a solid anti-armor options available.

but the crusher changes have helped out IIIa for sure

The advantage to IV is less about the gun itself and more about what you can run with it

[willow prairie]

mkv have 90 adm against carapace

[hollow ibex]

I think IV and V have same Cara adm yeah

[willow prairie]

mk4 only relevant for crusher really

[tall torrent]

no, IV is 95.68%

[tall torrent]

V is 72.77~90.12%

but it's actually not that relevant because V will 2 shot plasma gunners or 4 shot maulers in the head

with WOF the ttk is not bad on either

[hollow ibex]

wait mk v gains carapace adm with range?

that's so weird

[hybrid plover]

There was conversation about the zarona shotgun just magically forming 2 extra pellets from the warp for unyielding hits

And me and Path figured out that for some particular reason, the shot also seems to go by the actual center mass of the target for damage calculation for chest shots and not the armor that's actually on the chest

So it also just ignores the fact that reapers have flak armor

Nothing can weird me out anymore

[shrewd topaz]

Most normal day in darktide

[latent star]

My loose thoughts on Helbore has been V for max DPS builds, IV for builds that need anti-carapace and still do decent ranged damage, and IIIa for comfort / utility builds that still want to hit breakpoints.

The crusher change has made IV more niche.

[grand perch]

shotguns in every video game

https://tenor.com/view/why-cant-you-just-be-normal-youre-weird-stop-it-chill-out-wtf-gif-12213994

[tall torrent]

I think helbore go-to now is IIIa with unyielding + flak

V is just worse breakpoints unfortunately

[rough stream]

i cannot for the life of me remember each weapon mks

ist 4 and 5 the ones with slow and medium charging speed respectively

[shrewd topaz]

iv is slow
3a is medium
v is fast

[agile forge]

Wait til you see how they work in payday 2 lol

[scarlet crescent]

What's shovel blessing?

[steep flower]

And stagger cause falter breakpoints

[unreal nova]

Skullcrusher+decimator.

[tame lodge]

Ain't no one picking falter on Helbore

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[turbid ibex]

Faltuh

[steep flower]

And its a mistake (mk IIIa)

[surreal rune]

how is power falchion now

[turbid ibex]

Still mid

Nothing changed

Honestly even worse now that rager spawns are even higher

[tame lodge]

Like a piece of commemorative gear

It looks good

You don't really take it to the Frontlines

[surreal rune]

god forbid they make it good

[abstract horizon]

Do you guys like the chainsword

[turbid ibex]

Eh

[tawny badger]

what spawns

[tame lodge]

Yeah it cool

Could be better

But it goes vroom

And that's all my chainsaw blood needs

[pseudo fiber]

That'll be the day

[carmine crest]

For veteran, which is a better gun for weakpoints? Infantry lasgun or heavy laspistol?

[turbid ibex]

laspistol

[silver patrol]

The ias buffs were apparently inconsequential

Hopebros hyping it up for expedition had a rude awakening when expeditions died a week later

[abstract horizon]

Me too, should be used more often 😁

[tame lodge]

Laspistol
Big finesse

[tame lodge]

Once it gets better, sure

[abstract horizon]

Well, it's good enough for auric maelstrom and havoc 18

at least, it works for me

[tall torrent]

U can largely cope with it with frags

[turbid ibex]

doesnt make any of what i said false

[tall torrent]

it kind of got better

with unyielding flak being the meta perks for most melee now

[atomic void]

isnt this le intended way for vet to deal with stuff u cant easily stagger considering most of his weapons dont stagger stuff easily

[tame lodge]

Unlikely

Considering that Fatshark amped some melee staggers with time

And Fatshark knows what they are doing

#rememberChainswordwithoutstagger

Or

Branx Pickaxe getting a better stagger on special attack

[tall torrent]

You’re not gonna believe this but this is not veteran-exclusive: most melee weapons are not good at stagger

For example eviscerator sucks at stagger

TH sucks at stagger

Shock maul sucks at stagger

A lot of ogryn weapons suck at stagger

[tame lodge]

Evis15 is really weird because of the sticky stagger property on the l1 l2 l3

[tall torrent]

Still sucks at stagger

[tame lodge]

It's like they tried to remove the baseball bat feeling from it

And did that

[silver patrol]

it's funny that the maul sucks at stagger

my arbites maul would never

[tame lodge]

That's what happens when le funny special ball zapper gimmick

Oooh I know you want to use it -

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

[copper vector]

is there a melee for the vet that is as "low-investment" talents-wise as the tac axe

[tall torrent]

Duelling sword, unfortunately

[silver patrol]

have you tried rashad

[copper vector]

i have, it's pretty good also

[turbid ibex]

rashad needs more investment

[copper vector]

me no like dsword except for mk5

iirc that's the one with one thrust and one overhead heavy

[tall torrent]

Mk5 has no stabs

[sly orchid]

powersword

[turbid ibex]

they asked for low investment

[tall torrent]

I think power sword needs investment

[copper vector]

i forgot which dsword mark i liked then lmfao

[sly orchid]

hmm

i think its pret low

sure it has bad dodges

but still very high damage output

[tall torrent]

U normally want to run it like a melee workhorse weapon

Not as a low spec ranged backup

[turbid ibex]

unfortunately tac axe just kinda mogs everything when it comes to low investment melees

[sly orchid]

absolutely not

taxe needs rending strikes serrated blade weakspot damage etc to shine

[tall torrent]

Nah

[copper vector]

Fortunately i like how the tac axe handles

[silver patrol]

is that the mk7

[sly orchid]

i main taxe on vet too

[turbid ibex]

no?

[tall torrent]

are u trolling rn

[hybrid plover]

It really doesn't

[silver patrol]

you are going to take weakspot anyway

[hybrid plover]

Like if you're really using it for a melee centric build... maybe?

[tame lodge]

Mk2
The best one

[sly orchid]

i cant hit unarmed breakpoints with it anymore :(

[hybrid plover]

But it really doesn't need any investment to function

[tall torrent]

I think it’s not needed cuz it will PA a lot anyway

[hybrid plover]

Do you run unarmored perk on it?

[tall torrent]

And it’s not angled that well for maximum BM value

[tall torrent]

Melee centric doesn’t need them either

[shrewd topaz]

💀

[tame lodge]

No no
I agree
Taxe is just that shitty

#buffTaxe

[shrewd topaz]

So true

Double its attack speed

[agile forge]

Never used it on vet actually

But love tac axe on Zealot and Scum

[shrewd topaz]

Trench fighter wep spec go brrr

[narrow widget]

give taxe infinite cleave

[tame lodge]

💀

Capped weapon

Doesn't matter

[hybrid plover]

It's good.

Arguably its best trait for vet is that it's a very good complement for ranged heavy build because you don't really need investment for it

[latent star]

Tac Axe is good if you invest into it but also good if you don't. Nice weapon.

[random bobcat]

is the power sword better then the power falchion???

[turbid ibex]

yes

[distant plaza]

if you can get around the concrete boots

[random bobcat]

really I dont feel like it is but thats just me I like the falchion much better'

[turbid ibex]

falchion is unfortunately mid as fuck

doesnt excel in anything

[quiet lark]

you should use the weapons you enjoy 👍 but power sword is definitely much much better than falchion

[tall torrent]

Yes by a significant margin

Also I’m updating guide now AMA

[turbid ibex]

meanwhile power sword is one of if not the best melee in the game

[turbid ibex]

how are u doin

[random bobcat]

ok thank you which is the better mark to pick?

[turbid ibex]

6

[random bobcat]

ok thanks I will give it a go

[turbid ibex]

you also need power cycler for it to function

[tall torrent]

Checking shovel code rn

[turbid ibex]

for three powered swings

[tall torrent]

Check pinned guide’s power sword section

[quiet lark]

could u add infested adms for weapons considering rotten changes

[tall torrent]

I have updated some weapons’ perk setups following 1.11.6

[tall torrent]

Uhhhh

[random bobcat]

ok I will go take a look at that thank you

where are the guides located???

[tall torrent]

U can usually assume it’s somewhere between 0.8 to 1.1 @quiet lark I’ve never seen infested ADM be ludicrously high compared to base

It kinda also doesn’t matter that much since it can’t be improved by rending/brittleness

[random bobcat]

nvm got it

[quiet lark]

gotcha thank u

[turbid ibex]

what about infested adms being a lot lower

[tall torrent]

At worst it’s prob like 0.5?

But that should be quite rare

And frankly I don’t care enough about 1 mutator in havoc to have to rework every attack in guide

[quiet lark]

valid 😭

[sonic kayak]

Are you a lefty or righty?

[tall torrent]

right-handed

finished updating shovel section
conclusion: still mid af

[gentle lake]

Disgusting

[clever flicker]

Any advice on the combat shotgun? I cant quite seem to get it to work for me at auric level missions. Is it even good?

[austere mica]

The agri variant is the best one for general use

And there isn't really any specific way to use it besides getting its stats right

I like to use it on an exe stance/weapon spec melee build as both a quick pullout sniper with slugs or 1-2 shells, as well as a sustained fire anti gunner tool

[shrewd topaz]

I just run it on db talent tree

Wep spec go brrr

[hollow ibex]

Yah though building for it is a bit weird

[tall torrent]

I have a really dumb idea

@hollow ibex I think I'm gonna largely scrap example builds in guide

veteran is basically just this

if krak, take tinkerer
if stance, take TBTA
if VoC, take D&H
if infil, take marksman

go either longshot or one motion depending on ranged weapon
go trench fighter drill if not using tac axe or duelling sword

go weapon specialist if using any among power sword, combat axe, revolver, boltpistol, DB shotgun
go marksman's focus if using helbore lasgun

[shrewd topaz]

😭

We should give vet the hs treatment

It'll be funny

[sleek verge]

A weird bug: when using the Demolition Stockpile ability to replenish Shredder Frags, the effect sometimes fails to trigger properly. You watch the 60-second cooldown finish, see your grenade count rise by 1, only for it to instantly drop back to zero.
The Lone Wolf perk causes the same issue with Arbites Grenade regeneration. Occasionally you gain one grenade, yet it vanishes right away.
This glitch happens randomly with no consistent trigger pattern. Has anyone else run into this same problem?

[narrow frost]

Kuli confirms it

[sleek verge]

The question is, how does this happen? I've been digging through the code all morning, but I can't figure out what's causing it.

[narrow frost]

ask kuli

[tidal fox]

basically tzeentch infiltrated the code

there is no way youll figure it out

[tall torrent]

frankly I think hive scum is largely 3 builds as well

[shrewd topaz]

I meant goofy tree rework

[hollow ibex]

I think example builds are still helpful that just want X build at a glance

[midnight python]

hey

im looking for someone to play 1st campaign with

anybody up?

[torpid grotto]

Saw this happen with smoke grenades last game and it confused me, thought it was server lag

Did this start happening recently?

[tall torrent]

there's still this

[hybrid plover]

SO THAT'S WHY MY SMOKE COUNTS FELT OFF

I was playing with them yesterday and I could definitely tell something was off.

[hollow ibex]

Cue the infinite questions “is this a plasma build”

[hybrid plover]

"is the dueling sword good w this build"

[narrow widget]

"can I get onion rings instead of fries with this build"

[hybrid plover]

"will this build honor Lebron's legacy?"

[willow prairie]

DUELING SWORD WAS NEVER THAT GOOD

[hollow ibex]

Uh oh naughty word

[tidal fox]

rip Cy the liberals wont like this one

[tall torrent]

I put in 2 example builds but the main focus is actual build logic now

one sniper, one hybrid

[tall torrent]

Might do more example builds in this lighter format

[sly orchid]

Where pretty icons :(

[tall torrent]

me lazy

[willow prairie]

can't you just use gameslantern

[surreal rune]

why not skirmisher for the sniper

thats just free danage

[tame lodge]

No points left

[surreal rune]

grenadier...

[tame lodge]

Yeah
No points left

https://tenor.com/view/they-got-him-ted-ted-show-gif-4342699035732514153

[surreal rune]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-do-it-dew-it-meme-gif-4745443509998127535

cast it aside for more damage buff

dew it

[steep flower]

You wanted more dmg right? I dunno why they could not do it but i did it

Even got dmg on melee crit (agile will be better imo tho cause instant switch to ranged cause exe stance or grenadier for more aoe)

GOTTEM

[next ridge]

Hi all . Can anyone please help me with a build Soecifically for the adept assasin penance. This penance entails getting 250 critical hit kills with weapon specialidt active. Somehow after like 25 matches i only have gotten 48/250. i am using recon las gun and dueling sword. Obviously i have weapon specialist. Is there a build that would make this go faster. Open to any set of talents and weapon combos.

Also could use help with a good way to get fire down range penance which entails killing 100 ranged enemies from 30 meters away. Any tips locations for quick kills? Im 30/100 after 82 matches

These are my last two veteran penances

[shrewd topaz]

Only the first shot gets spec crit buff

Which with recon do be useless

[unreal nova]

Any crit weakspot kill in 10 secs count. Just very RNG past first shot.

Same for the melee part, if they die by melee weakspot crits.

[shrewd topaz]

You should be like 40% crit rate

Shouldn't be that bad on recon

[unreal nova]

They might not be hitting crit weakspots though.

[past junco]

you guys were right, it wasnt too bad

[unreal nova]

Or enemies are dying to burn.

Is why Bistol is a pain outside of doing it on lower diffs.

You rely on the bleed to meet breakpoints.

But that does not count towards it.

[shrewd topaz]

Its only crits surely magdumping into the horde is enough 💀

[unreal nova]

You need to hit specialists.

Maybe elites as well.

Hordes do not give credit to it.

[shrewd topaz]

Oh it's so over

Just play handcannon or double barrel

[unreal nova]

Revolver is usually the main choice.

Big hitarea for heads.

If built correctly, you just 1 tap reapers as well.

So any special/elite works barring crushers.

[surreal rune]

use double barrel or combat shotgun, get three kills in melee for ranged weapon specialist, shoot into horde, repeat

[unreal nova]

As for down range. Just shoot things on other end of bridges lul.

[prime wyvern]

double barrel shotgun

[next ridge]

Ok ill try the advice . Do i need a specific crit build ? Or is just. Generic weapon specialist build ok . I just copy paste based on gameslantern as i dont usually play veteran since my aim is questionable at bedt

Thanks

[unreal nova]

You do it so you can possibly get multiple kills per buff.

You just need good aim because the killing blow MUST be a crit weakspot.

[turbid ibex]

keep in mind most gameslantern builds are abysmal dogshit

even some of the most voted ones have extremely questionable choices

[steep flower]

Tbh all of them are

I know… i checked…

[turbid ibex]

fatmangus is on gameslantern

so not all

[steep flower]

OG fatty can be better so no

[turbid ibex]

but the vast majority is dogshit

[unreal nova]

Well, the private ones might be decent or just why.

[next ridge]

I cant tell the difference because im a mid veteran.

[heavy rover]

It'll come with time and practice

Also depends on what use case you're looking for

E.g. a countersniper build would need very different things than a frontliner

[grand perch]

its been a while since someone mentioned squad leader build....

[turbid ibex]

squeader

[grand perch]

...it runs power falchion now

i just thought "oh he fixed weird talent choices by now"....and then power falchion

[turbid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-teamfortress-tf-tf2-laugh-gif-5365426220347729427

[grand perch]

and still uses tinkerer with frags over grenadier

no demo team. but born leader

yeah no, still shit

[heavy rover]

No demo team?

Damn

And power falchion too

[unreal nova]

Honestly. This isn't the worst bit if it's meant for like aurics at most.

[heavy rover]

Fair, even the most shitpost build can be fine in auric

In the right hands

I used to run serrated edge with a shovel build in auric

Was it optimal? No

Was it hilarious? Definitely

[unreal nova]

Is fun though.

I should know.

I did that nonsense as well.

Kinda bad now with the uncanny nerf.

[heavy rover]

Oh if you want a laugh

Deadshot recon las

[unreal nova]

Tried, was not amused.

I rather just onslaught brrrrrrr.

[turbid ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/163495560626700288/1505257565024682105/ha0nw6bk4i1h1.gif

[unreal nova]

And yes, keystoneless brrrrrrrr

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

sonslaught

[unreal nova]

Look, they are both bad in different ways.

[steep flower]

After all; you can kill with a gun and even with a toilet brush if you’re good enough

[tidal fox]

Im assuming the shock maul is the toilet brush

[distant plaza]

I kinda like it
Rag doll goes brrr

[tidal fox]

I will be doing the mastery on that the hard way soon

you never know fatshark might give it brutal momentum...

[tame lodge]

Dclaw actually

[somber axle]

If you're silly enough you can get 75%-85% crit on a Recon and use it through Aurics and Maelstroms LOL

It's definitely overkill and the talent points for just that extra little crit is better worth elsewhere but it turns it into an infinite ammo gun

[tidal fox]

I thought that was the shaving razor

[steep flower]

No albeit fitting

[tidal fox]

what is the toilet brush then

[steep flower]

Its an allegory to dogshit builds

[tidal fox]

shiiiiiiiiit

[steep flower]

🙄

[tidal fox]

was gonna make a toilet brush build based on what you answered

[unreal nova]

Have you heard of murders with it?

[tidal fox]

😬 fair point

[unreal nova]

They exist. Anything is a weapon if you think about it.

[tidal fox]

hope they add brass knuckles soon

[tame lodge]

It's not because the smaul looks like a toilet brush that it is a toilet brush

[heavy rover]

Pool noodle melee weapon when

[hollow ibex]

there should be a mod that converts psword into a pool noodle

when unpowered

[heavy rover]

If we're talking about dream mods

I want zealot relic to be a job application

Or like a bar of soap

[tall torrent]

Decided to keep a section for sample builds but it’s rly just a dump of stuff I play

6 in there for vet rn (more than before) but it’s less organized

[turbid ibex]

nice

btw path did u see rogue core released

[tall torrent]

Ye

[tame lodge]

https://youtu.be/_EPuhZfRI-s?si=IlFmlQaR_Q9hBgfm

[lunar maple]

Hey is duck and dive any good

Or is reciprocity Better?

[analog mural]

I grab both, but reciprocity is better

Duck and dive is just really nice on vet who has dookie stamina regen

[silver patrol]

it's really a tax node

oh wait, wrong talent

wouldn't grab it

[analog mural]

Yeah if you had to choose one, go reciprocity

[tall torrent]

yes

[tall torrent]

it's alr but usually u don't need it

[turbid ibex]

Reciprocity is way better

[grand mango]

Yall think the Skiitari will be able to use Vet's Plasma Gun?

[silver patrol]

yeah sure

[tame lodge]

The actual question would be

Are they a good plasma user?

[silver patrol]

if you buy a new class just to still use the plasma maybe you deserve to pay a fine

[grand mango]

lmao

[grand mango]

I'd hope so considering that half their weapons already look like the Plasma

[silver patrol]

nah, they aren't plasma

they are arc guns pretty sure

basically lightning

[grand mango]

For sure, but they share visible similarities

[silver patrol]

eh

the plasma is chunky, the arc guns are sleek

[grand mango]

I'm referring to the large, glowing blue ribs namely

[silver patrol]

would be cool if they get a plasma pistol instead

[distant plaza]

inb4 arc guns are glorified smite

[grand mango]

agreed

[torpid grotto]

Servo skull will auto shoot one for you every 5 sec

[grand mango]

Finally, a weapon that literally plays itself

[mellow mesa]

I feel like they'd get both, with plasma pistol being the DLC class unique weapon.

i.e., Shock Maul vs. Arbites Shock Maul.

Or Plasma Calivers instead of Plasma Gun.

[tidal fox]

Watch it just not be admech at all

[grand mango]

Tau class

[tidal fox]

For the greater good

[formal ice]

T'au fans trying to sneak their T'au Girlfriends into any 40k media

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-gif-13250127

[lean rune]

does the veteran revive shout pick up people who are need to be rescued as well?

[hybrid plover]

No.

[tawny badger]

could you fuckin imagine tho

a netted ogryn finally remembering he has the strength to go toe-to-toe with a space marine after a vet yells at him

https://tenor.com/view/troll-ice-breakout-gif-23178356

[tidal fox]

ogryn ripping apart a human being
ogryn when caught in a weak ahh net

[tawny badger]

ogryn when he has to do a pullup

[tidal fox]

ogryn when he has to push off a small fuckin hound off of him

[tame lodge]

Ogryn

[void elk]

not an ogryn but Abelard from Rogue Trader was basically this

[hallow drift]

Abelard absolutely eating 5 boltgun shots from Argenta’s spray and pray

“Lord Captain, do you have an ibuprofen?”

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/gograndpa-abelard-warhammer-40k-rogue-trader-gif-10197236637227656755

[grand perch]

dunno can they run plasma + DS

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-toothless-laugh-trendizisst-gif-23028890

[copper vector]

I hope Vet gets the plasma pistol if they add it

I'd appreciate something more nimble than the plasma gun with similar power and also

[tall torrent]

@pseudo fiber the new skulls helmet completes this armor set so well

[pseudo fiber]

It has some use lol

[tall torrent]

the returning black power sword also pretty nice tbh

[pseudo fiber]

How much is that again?

[tall torrent]

900 standalone (or 2900 for full bundle but the other items are all ass)

this one looks ESPECIALLY good soaked in heretic blood (imo anyway)

[copper vector]

Did

did the cosmetics shop reset now

[pseudo fiber]

Yes it did

The new event is up too

There's aquillas

[tall torrent]

this is actually so fire

[pseudo fiber]

A cosmetic Path likes

https://tenor.com/view/robin-williams-gif-6037089

[turbid ibex]

2026

[past junco]

Man, I am struggling to pick a melee though, because when a crusher or two does come, it takes forever to kill both of them. I was using the Power Falchion, but I have gotten so bored using that. Any recommendations?

[tall torrent]

power sword VI

[graceful holly]

power sword

[turbid ibex]

Power sword mk6

[willow prairie]

imagine how many game you could buy instead of fatshark cosmetics

[pseudo fiber]

Imagine how many darktide cosmetics you could buy instead of games

[tall torrent]

Like 2 I can name rn

But I’m not gonna get them at full price lmao

[willow prairie]

goddamn

[willow prairie]

rogue and core

[tall torrent]

Nah

Detroit become human
Heavy rain

I’m not getting rogue core until after a while

New DT class will keep me busy anyway

[willow prairie]

both of them are regularly in bundle anyway

rogue core is kinda rough

[tall torrent]

Guide stuff needs updating too I just finished reworking zealot sections

5 example builds

[turbid ibex]

Honestly quite incredible

[tall torrent]

U saw it?

[turbid ibex]

Im gonna look now

[tall torrent]

I condensed classes to 6 sections total per class

[turbid ibex]

Were there any more weapon updates

[tall torrent]

I updated shovel

But haven’t updated other weapons yet

Now that the 2 class sections are done I’ll do weapons

[turbid ibex]

What is cut on the folding shovels

[prime wyvern]

combat blade

:3

btw I think so far the most fun vet weapons are

double barrel shotgun and stub revolver

plasma gun is boring, recon lasgun is boring

[turbid ibex]

I like plasma with exestance

[quaint marsh]

Im sure you've been asked, but do you plan on doing guides or number crunches for the other classes and weapons at all? I also thought it was interesting to see your last one be just Vet then this one be Vet and Zel.

[pseudo fiber]

Arbites doesn't need a guide tbf

Could be one page "pick whatever"

[willow prairie]

that defeat the purpose of the guide

💀

[quaint marsh]

Lol true. Specifically the weapons for me is why im asking. I love seeing weapon stats and I dont have those anywhere that I know of on Arbites and Psyker. I dont play Ogryn or Scum so I dont really care much about theirs, but having a trusted guide for them would still be nice.

[pseudo fiber]

There's a weapon thing for arbites not as much detail and probably not up to date

[quaint marsh]

Adm, stagger values, combos, thesaurus kinda thing

[pseudo fiber]

#arbites-class message

If the new class is what it may be I've been tempted to get in to this guide thing for a while myself

Especially since Path is so happy

So maybe that'll exist

[quaint marsh]

Excellent, thank you.

[quaint marsh]

I look forward to it lol

[pseudo fiber]

I might try it lol I'd have to vibe with the class

[tall torrent]

Yes

[tall torrent]

It’s a different attack profile

[turbid ibex]

Its not listed

[quaint marsh]

Love you

[tall torrent]

Fixed

[turbid ibex]

Woaq

Woaw

[tawny badger]

heretics watching a pox hound after it tried to go up against a lore accurate ogryn

a loregryn, perhaps

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[graceful holly]

i refunded that game after 3 hours

[unreal nova]

Is it actually now friendslop because public is extra unfun?

[willow prairie]

yes

even with friend is not that fun

wink wink

[fresh crystal]

Alright this got me

[graceful holly]

its just boring

the upgrades aren't really that interesting

just fulfill this condition for a damage boost or some shit

[tame granite]

upgrades boring, missions are tedious

[fresh crystal]

Anyone else just beat pox hounds even after they died?

[graceful holly]

in my head i was gonna upgrade my guns to something resembling DRG overclocks but no

just stats

and SOO much recycled content

and the classes have a cool upgrade here and there like slicer getting a projectile on his iconic slice

but you get actually just 1 of those upgrades per floor

and they're competing with your weapon upgrades

[tawny badger]

whatever dead body ends up in the elevator with us

[unreal nova]

WTF?

[graceful holly]

every floor has 1 workbench

[unreal nova]

And you can get junk if you are fourth pick.

[graceful holly]

the workbench gives you an upgrade to your class abilities/weapons/a new weapon

usually its like +elemental damage or + armor breaking or something for weapon upgrades

and abilities get like +1 charge

but those you don't have to compete with your teammates over

[unreal nova]

So is just modded DRG but somehow worse.

[graceful holly]

but you can only pick 1 weapon upgrade or 1 ability upgrade, not both

or 1 new weapon if you roll something good

per floor

[unreal nova]

That feels like the unfun part tbh.

Fighting over each other for best or just what you want.

[graceful holly]

far far west removed that within 1 week of early access release

because no one really likes it

[unreal nova]

I mean, is obvious why it's bad outside of hardcore teamwork mode.

Instance the same choices for everyone or random instanced choices.

Either works better than shared pool.

Former is slightly more balanced per run but might be boring if everyone goes same build.

[graceful holly]

my biggest issue is just that its a boring game really

[unreal nova]

Latter is more RNG and can be unfun if you pull the shortest stick.

[graceful holly]

enemies dont drop any of the upgrade ore, so you're incentivized to just bum rush the 1 work bench and the 1 bio booster for upgrades and extract immediately while grabbing any nearby ore

[unreal nova]

I have done so before in another game. Was so weak, I'm better off just dying to save time.

[graceful holly]

and in between hordes nothing is really happening

[unreal nova]

Oh, speedrun.

I think ppl expected roguelike deep dives.

Not... whatever it is now.

[graceful holly]

i was expecting something like that + the big upgrades to feel like overclocks

[unreal nova]

True. Maybe small upgrades on the way but big ones when you get to a point.

[azure lotus]

2 recon Lasguns are scary, I ran a match recently where we both had recon Lasguns and it was a light show and a half

[tawny badger]

one of the 7603980997 of us occasionally get a banger

[somber axle]

All Vet all Recon squad when

[silver patrol]

Would make that brittle on shot talent actually good

[heavy rover]

Onslaught? Not really recommended for recon las

If you're dealing with carapace with recon las at that rate you should be using your melee weapon instead

[tame lodge]

There's no crushers anymore anyways

🚬

I think
I miss my crushers

[balmy igloo]

Any vet gunner good build ?

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-miss-my-wife-omniman-i-miss-my-wife-gif-14784991181217223883

[silver patrol]

Yeah but what if 4 people take it

[turbid ibex]

wouldnt really change anything

[silver patrol]

What if 3 people and a desperado scum

[heavy rover]

You could probably get away with it in auric if you're doing it for laughs, but it's not necessarily the best way to approach it. Good teams have everyone dedicated to a specific role so all of them running the same build is still more shitpost than viable

[turbid ibex]

its still going to be capped at 40% brittleness

[silver patrol]

Right it has that ass cap

[heavy rover]

Yeah

[turbid ibex]

yeah cause its just regular brittleness

[silver patrol]

Why can rending go to 100 whike brittleness only to 40 again?

[heavy rover]

Because the thicctuna demands it

[silver patrol]

True true

Anyway it's fun to play gunscum and occasionally find the recon lasgun vet with onslaught

[heavy rover]

Are you talking like a spray and pray gunner or like a specialist/elite/countersniper build?

[analog mural]

You can get more than 40 brittle, just needs to be different sources of brittle(ie not the same blessing)

[tall torrent]

what are the twitch drops

[silver patrol]

a fucking twitch badge

don't bother

is it really a drop if you have to subscribe

[tall torrent]

oh lol

[heavy rover]

Rip

[tidal fox]

3 billion aquilas

[tame lodge]

Oh wow

Who could've seen that class coming to Darktide

What a shocker

[heavy rover]

I was hoping for arbetus 2

[narrow widget]

mfs already complaining it's skitarii and not tech priest

it's darktideover

[heavy rover]

Classic

[tame lodge]

It's so good to see half competent 21st

https://tenor.com/view/this-peak-is-this-peak-so-peak-peak-it's-just-so-peak-gif-1360442599844596686

[past junco]

man we are eating good this year

The new Darktide class, the new update for Space Marine 2, and Dawn of War 4 have a release date, finally. Total War Warhammer 40k will be tied with the new Armageddon war; the old Warhammer 40k games are back on Steam, new Chaos Gate game based on the Deathwatch. AND the release date for 11th edition

[flat steppe]

Feels good man

[past junco]

It does feel good

[serene bough]

Skitari look cool

[tame lodge]

Ok but when are we getting the moebian 21st class

🗣️

[serene bough]

You get nothing

[narrow widget]

yo when is vet 6 🗣️

[pseudo fiber]

@tall torrent new enemies

[silver patrol]

bros still think people will play expeditions

[tall torrent]

ok the vanguards are gonna be cool

[tall torrent]

is this in game already

[pseudo fiber]

yessir

[silver patrol]

yay more shields

[tall torrent]

I'm guessing they're elites, one unarmored/maniac and the other flak

[silver patrol]

what if they are peons

[willow prairie]

shieldvermin

😔

[nova carbon]

anybody else kinda mad at the twitch drop?

[narrow widget]

small bulwarks

[analog mural]

No. I never expected anything from those to begin with

[narrow widget]

I hope they're like shielded stormvwrmin

[nova carbon]

ye but you gotta admit the fact that even if you watched skulls on the official warhammer account you did not get it is kinda crappy ngl

I did and i noticed that with not enough time to spare

[narrow widget]

fat shark adding their certified shitter mode (((weaves))) before dropping the actually good mode

[random cairn]

lol i did not even get the promt to get anything

[nova carbon]

ye cuz it was only a drop if you watched the special events tab

witch is so neeedlesly confusing

[random cairn]

special events tab ?

[nova carbon]

on twitch

any stream on there

but the campaing is over now

[random cairn]

i know i watched all of it but i did not see special event tab, is it something diferent from the stream it self ?

[willow prairie]

don't disrespect weave player (singular)

[nova carbon]

it is the same stream under a diffrent section in twitch

kinda like just chatting

you see that in the top left corner? That's the section

sometimes called a category

[random cairn]

huh never used tha, well maybe next time

[nova carbon]

god i hope we have one soon

kinda mad ngl

like this was so confusing for nothing

at least i might get hive scum on sale so at least i will get one thing outta this

[willow prairie]

0010101111101101101110010 kill yourself 01001111101011

[feral stratus]

I was wondering what cosmetics but I already have these

[nova carbon]

I'm just kinda sad i couldn't get em

Cuz i like vet and i actually think this set looks nice

[feral stratus]

I mostly use the legs of this set

Because pegleg

But the rest looks good still

[narrow widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205990709228994560/1427831210587193385/heist.gif

[willow prairie]

glug glug glug

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-phone-speed-legendary-stream-speed-phone-gif-4108923420328591811

Hey

#skitarii-class over there

https://tenor.com/view/in-there-out-get-out-get-in-door-gif-9674710657154743176

[tropic halo]

Look mate, I know furries are hot but you should throw that in #skitarii-class

[tame lodge]

The mods got him

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

[turbid ibex]

fuck happened

[willow prairie]

I was getting plapped

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-phone-speed-legendary-stream-speed-phone-gif-4108923420328591811

[heavy rover]

I wonder, is the skitarii power sword the third power sword variant that was datamined

[turbid ibex]

it isnt a variant

p3 would be a completely new weapon

[pseudo fiber]

It seems to be

[tall torrent]

p3 is new weapon type, not variant

variant would be p1_m3 (power sword 3rd mark) or p2_m3 (power falchion 3rd mark)

[heavy rover]

Ah I see

[tame lodge]

Combat Axe p1

Combat Axe p2

Combat Axe p3

[turbid ibex]

combat axe p10

[tame lodge]

One of them is a shovel

[pseudo fiber]

It's P3 :3333

[tall torrent]

DS might be cooked now

[pseudo fiber]

impossible

[turbid ibex]

why so

[tall torrent]

the light atks have like 43% flak ADM man

this is more joever than inf las flak ADM

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-forever-waiting-for-you-it's-been-84-years-meme-gif-3221316472416716605

[tame lodge]

It's an assassin attack

We know it's ass

[pseudo fiber]

#win

[tall torrent]

what u don't realize is that because uncanny is reapplied and doesn't stay with u anymore

that 43% flak ADM is really seriously gonna stink

(and I also think mk2 is comparatively better because of this)

[tame lodge]

I understand what you're saying
But I'm just twisting this to say Mk2 is the best dueling sword

Like I've been doing

For a while now

[tall torrent]

I think it basically is now

IV is way too much of a 1 trick

it does nothing outside of heavy stabs

[heavy rover]

It's got ass in the name twice

[void dragon]

So how do we feel with the trailer? Is the skitarii in the same tier as Arbites or Hscum?

[tall torrent]

arb tier

[tame lodge]

Good to see the 21st being somewhat good at fighting

[void dragon]

So the pairing of It with the DBarrel shotgun legit? A single target monster with a horde cruncher dream team?

[tame lodge]

But Skittles were basically smoke and lights

So

[void dragon]

I mean, Arby itself was just dog in his trailer until the last reveal

[tall torrent]

honest recommendation
just use a knife

[tame lodge]

So yeah
Arbites tier

[tame lodge]

Also one of the funniest images

oh and

Someone else pointed out the lasers are more piss yellow now

[pseudo fiber]

below arbies tier imho

[void dragon]

Finally the toothpick of evil has been dethroned

[tall torrent]

some people will still crutch on it but

[tame lodge]

Because of recent stuff

[tall torrent]

I think the uncanny nerf really sealed it

[tame lodge]

eh

Ngl

No crushers for it

[void dragon]

What recent stuff? I thought we were leaning into that colour to make it feel like auto guns but in SPAAAASCCE!

[tame lodge]

So the budget is more numbers

Than quality

And dueling sword isn't a numbers weapon

Finally

[void dragon]

So that means I can use the DS for my drip and not feel shamed of being a dirty casual? j/

[tame lodge]

The lasguns shoot yellow bolts instead of red now

Because the bolts are made of light

[void dragon]

Star wars had red lasers, ours having yellow felt more to make them blend with normal auto guns tbh. Idk why it needed to change but I don't see it as bad tbh.

[fading girder]

powder that makes you say skitarii tomorrow

[void dragon]

No!
*Swallows ALL the powder that makes you say Skitarii on June

[turbid ibex]

skitarii tomorrow

[atomic void]

arb bettahhhh

but this one is cool

[cursive orchid]

Is there a good build to use to complete Killshot Ready? All the ones I see on YT or on GamesLatern are outdated

[tame lodge]

Skitarii yesterday

[turbid ibex]

which one is that?

[quiet lark]

kill things with mmf stacks

[quiet lark]

any weapon that's good with mmf, id take the 15 stacks for sure. helbore or infauto would be good options

[turbid ibex]

vraks spam on aurics is prob the way to go for that one then

[trim badger]

And it still mogs every option but maybe powersword lol

[tall torrent]

nah I think it's not high t1 anymore

low t1 and maybe even t2

[trim badger]

Ok you mean for vet or in general

[tall torrent]

in general

[trim badger]

You're insane

[tall torrent]

why

[trim badger]

It still does everything, extremely safe, high mobility

[quiet lark]

i agree with path 👍

[tall torrent]

I think knife is directly superior now

[trim badger]

I use both and DS is better O_o

And I'm the kind of psycho who has Big weakspot rate on both

[tall torrent]

DS only "advantage" is no stamina burn

[trim badger]

And parry for easy anti ragers

And higher range

Higher damage

[tall torrent]

it's only 3 cleave

u can remove the s

it's single

[bold totem]

what if we give the veteran a power chair?

[trim badger]

Still good enough to stagger them h40 ragers

And even 1 shot them

[tall torrent]

again, remove the s

[tame lodge]

So what I'm hearing is that

Dueling Sword bad

That right?

[trim badger]

If anything DS still needs dodge nerf xdd

[rigid nimbus]

Its not, people just like arguing over pointless details

[tame lodge]

That's not what I want for my narrative

[rigid nimbus]

Lmao

[bold totem]

jokes on you i dont even know how to use dueling sword

[tame lodge]

Well you see

My narrative is that

Everyone wants bad weapons to be buffed

So

If we classify it as bad

[tall torrent]

I agree

[tame lodge]

Then I can go around saying
#buffDuelingSword

[trim badger]

I really feel people don't hit enough weakspots to understand DS still mogs O_o

[tame lodge]

But that's the catch right

Because ain't no one wants a DS buff

It's really funny

[tall torrent]

nah it's just not nearly as good as before

[trim badger]

It is very close to before against every Target but crushers

[tall torrent]

Completely untrue

[trim badger]

Could be, but on Zealot I feel nearly no thressholds have changed other than H40 crusher and h40 mauler

On Vet I didn't notice any thresshold change

Didn't try on Psyker yet

[tall torrent]

Actually go fight 10 scab shotgunners with it and you can immediately tell the difference

Heavy stab one by one is slow

Light atks do so little it might as well heal them

[trim badger]

My Zealot required 2 stabs anyways

[tall torrent]

Yea then it’s even worse

[trim badger]

I meant both pre and post update

[tall torrent]

It is just quite a bit worse than before

[trim badger]

Why tf are you light attacking non horde with IV

[tall torrent]

I also think II beats out IV now

[trim badger]

This could be true

But I'm the expert at stabbing and lazy to qq cancel or block canvel

[tall torrent]

Because taking 2 stabs (1.5 cleave) to kill a single shotgunner is flat out dogshit clear speed

[trim badger]

I'm talking about H40 obvs

[tall torrent]

Yea

It’s flat out not good

[trim badger]

And I'm not running thrust

[tall torrent]

I’m not either

[trim badger]

So let's just slap thrust and problem solved 8)

[tall torrent]

I think it can crit 1 hit kill but

It’s just not nearly as good as before

I think crit build can largely mimic its previous performance vs unyielding (maybe a bit better) and gets close ish vs carapace given u crit enough

But vs basically everything else it’s already bad or worse than before

[torpid grotto]

Do you play any h40 games with it

[tall torrent]

I think it’s safe? People prob still like that aspect

But idk I really don’t think it’s even high t1 anymore

There’re just more flexible options that do more

[tame lodge]

🧑‍🚀

Always have been

[trim badger]

If you dare suggest tacaxe is better than DS

[tall torrent]

Plus idk if u even need a dedicated single target poking stick now

[tame lodge]

Or was it has been

[trim badger]

I'm plapping you

[tall torrent]

I didn’t say that

[trim badger]

Good

[tall torrent]

But I think tac axe is a lot more flexible

Not necessarily better

[trim badger]

Then what other options, there's knife and powersword

That's all

[tall torrent]

On vet power sword mogs all

[trim badger]

I'm not arguing that yea

[tall torrent]

And with crusher spawn reduction u can run like

[tame lodge]

No need for Chainaxe too

[tall torrent]

Unyielding flak

Which I think is meta perk for almost all melee now

[trim badger]

Sorry I'll keep using carapace on DS to destroy twins

[tall torrent]

Twins go down pretty fast usually anyway

They have x2 melee weakness

[trim badger]

If someone brings skullcrusher*

Otherwise no

[tall torrent]

Nah just in general

they're only 36k effective hp vs melee

less than 4 crushers in h40

and ur not gaslighting me with DS void shield ttk lol

[trim badger]

It really doesn't feel this way in H40 for some reason

There has to be some nuance

[tall torrent]

but it is true

[torpid grotto]

What’s h40 is that a secret psykanium mode

[quiet lark]

secret expeditions map

[heavy rover]

I mean for taking down twins I spam smokes so everyone can focus on the sword twin first

[trim badger]

The fact that they're releasing another expeditions level gg

Why

[torpid grotto]

Understood, I’ll be leaving to the next room to chase a trapper

[quiet lark]

wdym it's the best gamemode smile

[tall torrent]

it's prob cuz ur elite/ogryn/monster dmg bonuses don't work on them

[trim badger]

Maybe...

[thorn lark]

If anyone is interested

@tall torrent did you realize taxe4 has adms against carapace way way higher than the other two marks?

[tall torrent]

?

u mean light atks?

[tall torrent]

this is IV's light atk iirc

and yes it is ~49% carapace ADM

heavy atks are ~37%

@thorn lark

but this applies to all tac axe variants

[thorn lark]

Games lantern is wrong then?

[tall torrent]

wdym wrong

[thorn lark]

How do I understand the values in Pen?

[tall torrent]

oh I get it

it's because both IV's heavy atks use heavy smiter

which has different carapace ADM from heavy sweep

heavy sweep is ~37%

[thorn lark]

Ahhhhhhhh

[tall torrent]

heavy smiter is ~61%

this "penetration" stat says the first atk in heavy chain

which for VII is heavy sweep

[thorn lark]

But h2 on 7 is smiter iirc

[tall torrent]

Yes

[verbal burrow]

Bout to start practicing with the Infantry Lasgun again. How is it configured optimally in the current patch of the game?

At the moment I have this:

[tall torrent]

Do ghost + headhunter

[verbal burrow]

Any comment on the Perk selection?

[tall torrent]

Perks and stat spread are fine

I don’t like IX that much compared to the other 2 variants

But it’s ok

[verbal burrow]

What variant do you like? Since we live in a better era than my last spree, we can now swap variants without agony

[tall torrent]

VII is most generalist

IIb is best stat wise but crit muzzle flash is horrid

[verbal burrow]

I don't tend to lean into generalist. I tend to lean into maximum damage per hit or maximum rate of fire per hit, but we have Accatrans for RoF

I'll give IIb a try but last time my right hand started to hurt

[quiet lark]

i like seven :) iib is better but i don't like spamming lmb

[verbal burrow]

That's why I lean towards alpha strike on my semi autos

[tall torrent]

IX is only a little more damage than VII but shoots quite a bit slower

[verbal burrow]

But it -is- a little more damage on a well-aimed weak spot hit

[quiet lark]

the damage is comparable to ix on most targets and the higher rate of fire is very noticeable and nice for targets that require multiple shots / if you miss

[verbal burrow]

Hmm, I'll give the IIb another try as mentioned. Suspect more oof tho

[tall torrent]

IIb problem to me is just crit muzzle flash & flak ADM

But all inf las have bad flak ADM

They never buffed that aspect so they still meh

[heavy rover]

yeah, at this rate mk V helbore feels like what the infantry las should feel like

[verbal burrow]

I notice the fuse delay on krak nades have been reduced, that's good

Lol, immediately got shit for bringing Survivalist instead of the toughness yellow

[torpid grotto]

Don’t listen to the haters I always pick survivalist instead of the toughness yellow

[shrewd topaz]

Mfw opening salvo on an ilas

[heavy rover]

wait, people don't pick survivalist?

[shrewd topaz]

Also fuck you mean toughness yellow vet doesn't have one

[mellow mesa]

You got yelled at by someone who don't know things good

[hybrid plover]

Wait. What.

[shrewd topaz]

Average darktide player

[turbid ibex]

Fuck is a toughness yellow

[toxic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-strong-buff-ripped-gif-24036188

[elfin glacier]

Veteran dead because Skitarii exists

actually nevermind Veteran is eternal because Krak Grenades will always be amazing.

[pseudo fiber]

We've heard this for both scum and arbites lmfao I think Vet will be fine

[elfin glacier]

really? lol

I feel like Arbites has a different role

[willow canyon]

What’s the best mark for the helbore lasgun

[torpid grotto]

Like the brothers Karamazov

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah it is but everyone went "Vet 2 vet 2 vet 2"

[tall torrent]

I think frag higher value atm

[elfin glacier]

really, is it because they reduced the spawn rate of carpace armored enemies?

[tall torrent]

Yea less crushers

U fight way more of other enemies than crushers

[elfin glacier]

Huzza! we are free from the krak lol

[tall torrent]

I also think melee weapon perk meta changed from this

[elfin glacier]

Im gonna have to play some more post that patch update

[tall torrent]

Most are unyielding flak now

[elfin glacier]

how long ago was that?

[tall torrent]

Like 2 week tops?

Maybe 1 week?

Forgor

[elfin glacier]

guide getting old

[quiet lark]

all vet nades are very strong, esp with crusher changes i wouldn't say kraks are like THE nade

[tall torrent]

I actually updated guide a lot the past few days

[pseudo fiber]

I've been playing ogryn instead lmfaooo

[tall torrent]

Both vet and zealot sections are overhauled

[elfin glacier]

Ogryn is stupid fun to play. The most halarious class to me

[tall torrent]

Ogryn weapon meta also changed a bit

Karsolas stocks back up

Cleaver stocks are up

[elfin glacier]

yeah, you no longer need to so heavily focus on killing carpace armor

[mellow mesa]

I've also been seeing a ton more vets running Infantry Lasgun lately.

[pseudo fiber]

I gotta do 5 missions to do 100 on oggy

lol

left that one to rot a bit

[elfin glacier]

this is great news, I prefer Karsolas moveset just for its horde clearing

its very effective at it

[tall torrent]

Karsolas is fastest mauler wave clear outside of sunder power sword

It’s basically just relic grade direct upgrade for most cases

[elfin glacier]

thats amazing, I do want to be able to bully Mauler waves

[tall torrent]

Karsolas 2 hit mauler on H sweep lol

[elfin glacier]

awesome

[turbid ibex]

poggers

karsolas my beloved

love me my sweeping heavy loops

[tame lodge]

Currently mk3a

There's just

Not enough enemies worthy of mk5 or mk4

[tall torrent]

Mk5 is gud

Mk4 is also gud but less wieldy than mk3s and basically just for carapace

[verbal burrow]

Hm, that infantry lasgun match made me feel bad

I kept thinking about how much toughness and instant rezzes I could give them if I didn't go full sharpshooter

[deep bone]

Have we got patch notes for the next update yet?

[verbal burrow]

I feel like I let the boys down

[turbid ibex]

no

we know fuck all

[tall torrent]

Stance is actually vet’s best ult atm but people crutch on gold toughness too much

[deep bone]

On god

[tall torrent]

But ironically stance is strong not for its ranged damage bonuses

[deep bone]

Infinite toughness regen

[turbid ibex]

if anything the ranged damage is the least noteworthy part of stance lol

[tall torrent]

It’s the stun immunity

[deep bone]

I use the Mk.VII ILas with Exe stance in Auric

Works for my playstyle

[verbal burrow]

Yeah but at heart I am a support ❤️

[turbid ibex]

you support your team by killing priority targets

[tall torrent]

Support ur team by killing everything

[tame lodge]

Support your team by giving them buffs

[verbal burrow]

In fairness a support build with rashad + plasma + krak still kills all of the things

[tame lodge]

(Focus Target)

[verbal burrow]

I also do focus yes

In fairness, the toughness shout isn’t just about toughness. It’s also rez and an aoe stun. If timed right you can stagger a charging group of armoured berserkers and golden toughness glaze the squad at the same moment, and that is essentially the uno reverse card

The trifecta is of course rezzing someone, giving everyone gold toughness and also knocking a whole conga line of chargers on it’s ass so you can take their skulls for the golden throne

[worthy dragon]

I love Focus Target + Revolver + Stealth + Ally Revive Speed curios

[hollow ibex]

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[worthy dragon]

Feels like Saving Private Ryan or Hacksaw Ridge when i'm playing that build

[slow sky]

im glad people are actually realizing how good revive speed is

[tame lodge]

Yeah because they are good now

[feral bay]

Maybe I should get rid of the secondary toughness/health bonuses for it.... Nah, just keep using VoC.

[bleak parrot]

does anyone know when the veteren class is releasing?

[slow sky]

never

[heavy rover]

i hope they release a cadian class

[tame lodge]

Yesterday

How are you late

Smh

Back in my day

[tidal fox]

these cosmetic rotations are so shit

what do we even need lady alice for

[tall torrent]

the helmet is nice tbh

and black power sword is gud

[tidal fox]

which hlemet

[tall torrent]

krieg

idk I rly like this

[tidal fox]

I've never been a fan of krieg troopers very overrated

that specific helmet is decent

the rest make me think

why the long face

[tall torrent]

ye but u can make it work with a set that's not rly any regiment specific

like wat I hav

[tidal fox]

https://tenor.com/view/long-face-long-face-borzoi-dog-gif-14365293199697059002

true

[lunar maple]

I’m him

[serene bough]

do people still run uncanny on shovel

[tall torrent]

It’s ok but not entirely necessary

U can do Decimator skullcrusher instead

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/cleolonglegs-abby-dog-very-nice-honey-dogs-of-youtube-gif-3966116189229200471

[tidal fox]

how the krieg trooper be dragging his guts after getting his legs obliterated