I legit avoid letting inferno psykers in unless it's someone I really know because I would like to play the game without being blasted off the map ty
#veteran-class
hybrid plover
tame lodge
Woe barrel upon ye
hybrid plover
It does not matter if you run the infinite horde clearer if you're also going to clear your teammates at the same time
Not to me at leaat.
slow sky
it's the actual
and it makes sense too
tame lodge
We fuckin love Fatshark btw
slow sky
both are part of the sword weapon family
tame lodge
True
slow sky
they all grab from the same attack template file
the light profile overhead thats on one of the heavy sword push attacks matches the ds5s light overhead
when that got increased, it affected both
slow sky
stuff like this is why most weapon tweaks rarely ever bump the attack itself, but tweak other properties of the weapon
adm, first target, weapon stat lerps, etc
stuff like that is what differentiates them
cuz the weapon types look at that base profile and put it in their own stat mold
tame lodge
Finesse is different story
Mk2 h2 crits ends up dealing more damage than dclaw because different finesse
slow sky
-# this literally means the thing that sets apart duelling sword and devils claw is literally just raw finesse and adm
slow sky
careful thats duelling swords brother
tame lodge
careful thats duelling swords brother
Dclaw still shit btw
Maybe if we addressed the flak Adms in the room
Ah who am I kidding
Fatshark knows what they are doing
So dclaw will forever remain shit
We fucking love Fatshark
tame lodge
The voices in my head told me it's a blessing that has an AoE insta kill on perfect parry
Already making a build with Lethal proximity
I don't know if it's because it was a long day
Or if it's because I started thinking about the templates
But my head hurts
There's an actual non zero chance that the shovel and the Rashad share templates because they are both considered combat axes in the code
somber axle
But my head hurts
check to see if you've been unconsciously clenching your jaw
release that tension
it's wild how often people are having headaches and stress and don't notice it
it's not going to fix any other causes for headache but it'll help you relax a bit
slow sky
The voices in my head told me it's a blessing that has an AoE insta kill on perf...
the blessing i want is +50% strength and +50% rending for the next 3 attacks after landing a perfect parry
dapper coyote
How does Chain Axe perform for martydom zealot? (can't get answers from Zealot channel lmao)
quiet lark
it's pretty good 👍
tall torrent
noe
tall torrent
the blessing i want is +50% strength and +50% rending for the next 3 attacks aft...
would at least make it interesting ig
grand perch
the blessing i want is +50% strength and +50% rending for the next 3 attacks aft...
you accidentally a word
grand perch
tidal fox
dclaw players desperately trying to keep themselves sane
grand perch
funny im placing dclaw right now
true bison
Good weapon recommendations for cannon fodder class?
tidal fox
dclaw
true bison
The catachan toothpick
true bison
but carapace...
Already have the solution for carapace
tidal fox
krak aside
true bison
Still have the solution
tidal fox
double barrel shotgun
tall torrent
tidal fox
hadron will enjoy experimenting on those rager bodies
trail ore
nah this isnt xcom
unrelated you got a cool pfp lizard man.
peak salmon
what weapons benefit most from new Withering Fire? besides plasma
grand perch
unrelated you got a cool pfp lizard man.
Thank you
grand perch
what weapons benefit most from new Withering Fire? besides plasma
Bolter
I suppose helbore could get funny cleave with hotshot too
Never tried
desert viper
I suppose helbore could get funny cleave with hotshot too
helbore gets insane cleave with withering
it's really fun
slow sky
it increases its cleave from 3 to 4.5
with hot-shot, it goes up to 9
(hot-shot is -X% hitmass of the listed cleave, the description is wrong)
however without withering, hotshot would be bringing it up to 6
elites like shotgunners and gunners have 5 hitmass
so hotshot alone is letting it hit two, but withering fire doesnt increase that, itd need to be over 10
youd need to have the weakspot strength node on ability activation on that to just barely punch above that to hit 3
grand perch
Assuming you keep hitting lined up heads
peak salmon
how about double barrel shotty?
slow sky
how about double barrel shotty?
you already have manstopper for infinite cleave
shy valley
Wait, withering fire? Did veteran get a new talent or something?
peak salmon
Wait, withering fire? Did veteran get a new talent or something?
+50% ranged cleave
tepid otter
Wait, withering fire? Did veteran get a new talent or something?
is there actually?
funny catachan
thorn lark
youd need to have the weakspot strength node on ability activation on that to ju...
it's sad
steep flower
Assuming you keep hitting lined up heads
And thats why it will forever be a meme
open ravine
what weapons benefit most from new Withering Fire? besides plasma
Bolter, plasma and some autoguns.
Basically any weapon with a level of actual cleave(goes through at least one enemy) benefits while anything that didn't cleave before will probably still not cleave
lean rune
does anyone use the enemies improved mod here? i find it very helpful, but was struggling to figure out how to configure colours specifically for some enemies (such as poxburster pink or something) even after watching a video
tall torrent
Bolter, plasma and some autoguns.
Basically any weapon with a level of actual cl...
it's not needed for plasma, and only boltgun 2b cares (III doesn't)
open ravine
it's not needed for plasma, and only boltgun 2b cares (III doesn't)
Well plasma still benefits as more cleave on light attack.
It's not needed per say but it doesn't hurt having it
turbid ibex
Well plasma still benefits as more cleave on light attack.
18 cleave is more than enough for a gun tbh
dry cloak
Well the heaviest recon las can put some worm with it
open ravine
18 cleave is more than enough for a gun tbh
27 doesn't hurt though
dry cloak
Worm
open ravine
Well the heaviest recon las can put some worm with it
I don't think a single las weapon actually benefits from the increased cleave except hellbore and that's with a blessing on headshot only
turbid ibex
If it has around 1.5 cleave withering lets you hit like
An extra fodder enemy i think?
I dont remember exactly what was the breakpoint or the enemy
somber axle
elites like shotgunners and gunners have 5 hitmass
Kuli's guides show Gunners, Ragers and Shotgunners all have 4 hit mass
turbid ibex
Kuli's guides show Gunners, Ragers and Shotgunners all have 4 hit mass
Could be a havoc thing?
somber axle
Is that guide incorrect/outdated? Because if it isn't then Withering Fire/Hotshot Helbore does consistently hit 3 at one on lined up headshots. With Helbore you are always aiming heads. With Gunners/Shotgunners/Ragers you can catch them through chokepoints somewhat consistently in my experience
willow prairie
Could be a havoc thing?
havoc doesn't change elite hitmass
somber axle
The guide shows that Dregs are all at 4 hit mass, Scab Plasma is also 4 hit mass. Scab Shotgunner is 5 hit mass, not 4.5
Asking because if that guide is outdated I should stop recommending new players use it to check hit mass values
Dreg Shotgunner as an example
I don't know where they got the 4.5 hit mass from tbh
Unless it was changed after the guide was finished and then the guide was never updated
Oh wait 4.5 for the WiFi+Helbore base
But still
That's a fair few Elites you are consistently hitting extras on without the need for Marksman
turbid ibex
Unless it was changed after the guide was finished and then the guide was never ...
You can see the date when the guide was last updated
somber axle
Only Scab Shotgunners have 5 hit mass requiring you to pick up Marksman for the extra strength to cleave a third
turbid ibex
You can see the date when the guide was last updated
19th of april
somber axle
Yeah so the guide should be fine
They may have just been assuming Scab Shotgunner hit mass was the same hit mass for all those others I listed
Scab Rager and Mauler have 10 hit mass too so Marksman would just barely push it over the edge into an extra there as well, not just a third for Scab Shotgunners
It's not a Manstopper DBS but the Helbore WiFi Hotshot cleave can be pretty useful
tall torrent
Well plasma still benefits as more cleave on light attack.
it's irrelevant
somber axle
My go to for Helbore Mk V blessing to pair with Surgical
open ravine
it's irrelevant
Doesn't change the facts
tall torrent
Doesn't change the facts
yea the fact is that it's irrelevant for plasma
somber axle
Doesn't plasma have like 18 cleave on hip fire and 105 on charged shot
So you jump to 27 cleave with wifi?
That's a funny amount of cleave
open ravine
Scab Rager and Mauler have 10 hit mass too so Marksman would just barely push it...
Doesn't carapace hard stop ranged cleave no matter it's cleave amount
turbid ibex
Doesn't plasma have like 18 cleave on hip fire and 105 on charged shot
18 is more than enough
tall torrent
So you jump to 27 cleave with wifi?
yea it's just not needed
18 is already more than enough
open ravine
Does it hurt plasma to have more
tame lodge
5 dreg ragers 🗣️
turbid ibex
Does it hurt plasma to have more
Ye kinda
somber axle
Doesn't carapace hard stop ranged cleave no matter it's cleave amount
I forget tbh. I would run into the Psykanium to check but I only just woke up tbh LOL
turbid ibex
Because youre not putting that point on something else
tall torrent
Does it hurt plasma to have more
it's 1 point spent on smth basically worthless to plasma
with that point u might as well get field improv/serrated
somber axle
Hey Guide WIP do you know about the Carapace stopping cleave thing off the top of your head?
open ravine
it's 1 point spent on smth basically worthless to plasma
I get to kill some more elite mobs when I fire into clusters of them so I don't mind
tall torrent
yea, carapace ends all cleave on contact
somber axle
Ah ok thanks
tall torrent
the only exceptions are
somber axle
Then yeah Mauler doesn't change
tall torrent
if atk innately has bypass to carapace ending cleave
or
if atk doesn't use cleave system at all
open ravine
They made carapace end cleave because plasma would nuke crusher, scab rager and mauler spams
somber axle
Oh I meant for Helbore WiFi/Hotshot
dry cloak
I don't think a single las weapon actually benefits from the increased cleave ex...
Heaviest recon has 3cleave base
tall torrent
and plasma with 18 cleave can cleave 1 mauler already
not often u need >20 to cleave more than 1
somber axle
Also yeah Recon Mk XIV has 3 base and with WiFi/Deathspitter can pick up some consistent extra elites
open ravine
Heaviest recon has 3cleave base
So with withering fire it can cleave fodder
dry cloak
Yes
tall torrent
rising heat also gets u over the >20 cleave breakpoint pretty easily
so yea plasma just doesn't care for withering fire
dry cloak
Because it has better dps
open ravine
Heavy version of las weapons feel like they need some love
open ravine
In a perfect world they would be made into hotshot las weapons with a decent amount of carapace and flak damage
willow prairie
there no reason to use the other 2
dry cloak
In a perfect world they would be made into hotshot las weapons with a decent amo...
In theory both helbores recons and infatry should be able to works as each other
open ravine
highest dps + ammo efficiency
Ammo efficiency isn't needed anymore thanks to no ammo on crit perk not having internal cooldown
dry cloak
Recon lasguns in codexes is nothing more than a pattern of lasgun
somber axle
Still hoping one day we get proper Hotshot weapons and they just disable backpack slot cosmetics so we can have the funny tubes connecting from the back into the gun as a full model without worrying about backpack cosmetics clipping
We deserve it too
Plus if they disabled backpack cosmetics for the weapon it would mean any skins for that weapon could affect the connecting backpack too
A lot to hope for but I can dream
Give us Hellguns
tame lodge
In a perfect world they would be made into hotshot las weapons with a decent amo...
This is Fatshark
Forget about your perfect world reveries 🗣️
But don't worry
Fatshark knows what they are doing
turbid ibex
What even are hotshot lasguns
somber axle
Hellguns are LMGs
I guess the hard part of the backpack weapon thing is like where does the backpack go when you swap if the tube connects to your ranged weapon? Probably why they never did it
Either you hide the whole weapon + backpack or you end up leaving the connecting backpack but disabling the tubes/weapon
Just a lot more work
pseudo fiber
Still hoping one day we get proper Hotshot weapons and they just disable backpac...
Insert forum post
Fatshakr have STOLEN my paid for backpack
open ravine
What even are hotshot lasguns
Hotshot refers to a higher quality las weapons that uses more energy to gain anti armour traits
Volleyguns are lmg las weapons and hellguns are technically no longer a thing but used to refer to hotshot volleyguns
somber axle
Insert forum post
Fatshakr have STOLEN my paid for backpack
You're right LOL
WAY more trouble than it's worth
This is why we can't have nice things
😭
twin sapphire
What even are hotshot lasguns
A lasgun with better armor piercing
Specifically-1 ap compared to a normal lasguns 0 ap
pseudo fiber
You're right LOL
I do think the backpack thing and like what role it would fill that recon doesn't are the big 2 they're thinking about with weapons like the hotshot
twin sapphire
Where longlas
turbid ibex
I do think the backpack thing and like what role it would fill that recon doesn'...
Ye it would pretty much just be a heavy weapon version of recon
somber axle
That makes sense. We have the Recon Mk XII already filling that high capacity high rate of fire lasgun role
open ravine
Where longlas
General consensus is scopes don't work really for darktides play style and so no scoped weapons
twin sapphire
I want my longlas
turbid ibex
Too bad
open ravine
I want my longlas
I also
twin sapphire
I want a las weapon that’s just the helbore but without having to charge every shot and without the fuck ass iron sights
turbid ibex
Full on sniper weapons aint gonna work in darktide
somber axle
I know it's a meme in the community but one thing a Hellgun/Volleygun could fulfill is better suppression similar to Infantry Autogun vs Braced Autogun but people would absolutely hate it if the LMG Lasgun is just the Braced Autogun equivalent considering how the Infantry Autogun and Braced Autogun both sit currently in regards to balance
open ravine
That makes sense. We have the Recon Mk XII already filling that high capacity hi...
I think volley gun could still work as it trades ease of use with longer reload and slower movement but higher damage
somber axle
I remember toying with the Collateral stat and the talent to increased ranged suppression on the Recons and noticed it hardly makes a difference
We don't currently have a Lasgun of any kind that braces
turbid ibex
I remember toying with the Collateral stat and the talent to increased ranged su...
Ye thats cause suppression sucks
somber axle
So that could be a fun difference vs the aim down sights of all others
somber axle
Ye thats cause suppression sucks
It's mainly just a bonus if anything
open ravine
I know it's a meme in the community but one thing a Hellgun/Volleygun could fulf...
Just make the volleygun the vet equivalent to the twin linked stubber
somber axle
Like you're suppressing surrounding gunners while shooting one gunner
unreal nova
I remember toying with the Collateral stat and the talent to increased ranged su...
It has literally one use. Staggering a toxbomber if you start shooting the moment they start the pull out animation.
tawny badger
my question is wouldn't a hotshot/volley lasgun kinda dunk on the recons
turbid ibex
Bracing is also worse than ads
somber axle
It has literally one use. Staggering a toxbomber if you start shooting the momen...
Oh that's neat. I wasn't aware of that one thanks!
somber axle
Just make the volleygun the vet equivalent to the twin linked stubber
That would be really fun
unreal nova
That's about it. You just fail the stagger on a collateral dump.
somber axle
my question is wouldn't a hotshot/volley lasgun kinda dunk on the recons
I mean it depends on how it is balanced tbh. If the Hellgun/Volleygun ends up having better ADMs into Flak/Cara then yes people will naturally flock to the weapon that can pen armour better
unreal nova
Is it worth it, not really. Most of the time, you won't be able to aim and shoot before it's too late.
Since those buggers tend to throw from cheat tier places or just places you can't shoot.
tawny badger
the types of throws bombers be pulling off
and their grenades still direct hit rejects
shut talon
advice wanted: Melee vet with lower right tree. Advice on the ranged weapon? I figured maybe plasma isn't that good since you kinda want to be swapping, and swap speed is a bit of ass?
turbid ibex
Plasma is one of the best ranged for melee vet
twin sapphire
the types of throws bombers be pulling off
Tox bombers also have the nastiest throw angles
tawny badger
revolver/double barrel are popular picks w/ Always Prepared
turbid ibex
well there's always one motion
You pretty much always take one motion
open ravine
advice wanted: Melee vet with lower right tree. Advice on the ranged weapon? I f...
Shotty
twin sapphire
Hate those bastards with a passion
turbid ibex
Only exception i know of is revolver because it already has insanely fast swap speed
tawny badger
Tox bombers also have the nastiest throw angles
bombers are handpicked from the hive's NBA champions
pseudo fiber
the types of throws bombers be pulling off
They've had bomb Brady on their team since launch
tawny badger
genuinely was taken aback the first time I got hit square in the face with a grenade
twin sapphire
Someone needs to make this image but for tox and scab bomber
shut talon
plasma, revolver, shotty. Noted, thanks
turbid ibex
advice wanted: Melee vet with lower right tree. Advice on the ranged weapon? I f...
Plasma and the majority of other weapons swap speed can be heavily mitigated with one motion, only ones that the reload speed is still too slow even with one motion are bolter and helbore ime
Plasma also can save a point compared to most other options because it doesn't need always prepared subnode
somber axle
there's Plasma reload tech for skipping animations but I can't remember it off the top of my head tbh
so you can save points on reload talents if you use that tech
turbid ibex
Tapping sprint at certain points in the reload speeds it up a lot
somber axle
yeah
I forget which points
it's important to learn though
also that guy that hates Krieg is going to be so upset at this shop rotation LOL
turbid ibex
I think its when you remove the canister, when you insert another canister, and when the thing on the back of the gun lowers
open ravine
also that guy that hates Krieg is going to be so upset at this shop rotation LOL
Damnit I want steel legion
somber axle
the bright side is that the Helbore skin and shovel skin are nice to have (I already have everything in this rotation minus the new helmets + Mechanicus keychain)
shut talon
i assume onslaught isn't very good on power sword because of decently high ADM?
turbid ibex
i assume onslaught isn't very good on power sword because of decently high ADM?
Onslaught isnt good
open ravine
Ever since Yarrick was revealed I have been wanting steel legion
turbid ibex
Power sword also kills stuff too fast for onslaught to even stack
somber axle
i assume onslaught isn't very good on power sword because of decently high ADM?
Onslaught is bad on most weapons and mediocre on the Recon Mk XII. Not worth the talent point usually. Definitely not worth it on the Power Sword
And like even on the Recon Mk XII it only slightly improves your TTK on Crushers which is already awful and doesn't get much better
It's just not a worthwhile talent
Pls do not shoot Crushers with Recons
steep flower
Onslaught is bad on most weapons and mediocre on the Recon Mk XII. Not worth the...
Of all things its best for mk xii recon cause high firerate
But for psword yeah nah
somber axle
Not directed at anyone, just in general. Recons can't even do it as a meme anymore LOL
I think at best someone argued quick spray to stack it on a Crusher then swap Knife or something and you could have Infernus Fire and Lacerate Bleed ticking on the target
but if you're running Knife you already have Uncanny so
steep flower
I think at best someone argued quick spray to stack it on a Crusher then swap Kn...
Yup; very viable option
Recon onslaught is for debuffs not directly killing
steep flower
but if you're running Knife you already have Uncanny so
Can run smth else than uncanny
somber axle
I love the thought of Infernus Fire and Lacerate Bleed ticking on a boss tbh
it just feels like overkill for almost anything else
steep flower
I love the thought of Infernus Fire and Lacerate Bleed ticking on a boss tbh
Can run mercy & precog
somber axle
that could be funny
shut talon
can i ask if there's something obv not good with my tree?
somber axle
Sure share the tree and people can give advice
turbid ibex
This is actually fairly good
somber axle
What weapons?
turbid ibex
But could improve
somber axle
But yeah the only thing I'd say is that you could improve it with at least one +25 toughness node
shut talon
prob power sword and plasma/revolver
somber axle
it's a solid tree overall
Agile Engagement would also be worthwhile
I'd drop Serrated and keep Field Improv to afford a point into +25 Toughness or Agile Engagement but if you find you're fine without the extra toughness it's fine
You have a lot of the most important pick ups
shut talon
swap serrated blade, maybe?
somber axle
Yeah
Power Sword gets some value out of Serrated into Mauler packs but it's not needed
Agile Engagement would be a really big boost to your damage
turbid ibex
Replace rending strikes with +25 toughness, get rid of the revive speed talent for agile engagement, replace either serrated or field improv (you only want to take one or the other) for something else
somber axle
Oh yeah that's good advice
turbid ibex
Im also not sure how useful tinkerer is for smokes
shut talon
I can prob take out demo team for a toughness node
turbid ibex
If you go revolver you'll want both the +25% ammo and always prepared
somber axle
I can prob take out demo team for a toughness node
Keep Demo Team for sure
turbid ibex
Better to replace the revive talent next to it
unreal nova
I'll see how this works out on plasma for now (spend 1M and no 71/69)
Check if 72/68 works if you have resources.
If you find one.
turbid ibex
60% thermal also works if you cant find the optimal roll
shut talon
is 60% thermal better than 60% charge speed
unreal nova
Just upgrade till 68 thermal and check in uprising.
turbid ibex
is 60% thermal better than 60% charge speed
Charge speed is effectively fire rate
unreal nova
If you can shoot 8 times, is a good one.
unreal nova
is 60% thermal better than 60% charge speed
Thermal dump is better for most part, rarely will you ever shoot 8 times in a row till high havocs.
turbid ibex
The higher the charge speed, the faster you can spam hipfire shots
Also dont bother with charged shots
Way too slow and ammo inefficient
steep flower
Im also not sure how useful tinkerer is for smokes
Very good
tame lodge
Internet went out but still on the topic of hotshot
Just lazy it out and give us the Aquilons one
turbid ibex
The what
tame lodge
Box fed hotshot
turbid ibex
Like just a bigger battery compared to the regular lasguns
tame lodge
tame lodge
Like just a bigger battery compared to the regular lasguns
Pretty much
somber axle
Boxfed would be nice I guess. And avoid a lot of the trouble with the backpack too
I will just be sad about no tubes
But we've never had tubes anyway
pseudo fiber
Just lazy it out and give us the Aquilons one
That isn't 8th edition or earlier lore impossible!!!!
thorn lark
ahhh reddit
gilded pike
Just lazy it out and give us the Aquilons one
GW inquisition stormtroopers when
pseudo fiber
ahhh reddit
These people could be in YOUR games
thorn lark
i am sure
unreal nova
These people could be in YOUR games
I mean, lvl 30 vet with starting aura.
tawny badger
These people could be in YOUR games
fading canopy
hello
i just saw this
how are you EVER supposed to make use of a 4 hit chain with a power sword
im confused
true bison
Obtained a new love for the dclaw
hollow ibex
how are you EVER supposed to make use of a 4 hit chain with a power sword
you don't yeah
hollow ibex
but some combos will let you access different parts of the light chain
turbid ibex
yeah push attack leads into the light strikedown
turbid ibex
shove stab light light
ye thats the single target combo
hollow ibex
erm actually it's PA L L
fading canopy
ye thats the single target combo
the goated target combo
who needs krak grenades
when i can explode crushers with a sword\
fading canopy
erm actually it's PA L L
pal
@turbid ibexcan u tell me why i just read that the first knife is better than the second mark
turbid ibex
where did you read
true bison
What ranged Weapons yall recommend for big beefsters
tall torrent
What ranged Weapons yall recommend for big beefsters
how new are u to the game
fading canopy
where did you read
i DONT remember
true bison
how new are u to the game
Months in, just want pointers from others since a lot of the shit I cobbled together is from personal experience
hollow ibex
i DONT remember
it's really just preference tho mk6 is generally stronger. mk3 needs a dedicated melee build.
fading canopy
wtf
turbid ibex
Months in, just want pointers from others since a lot of the shit I cobbled toge...
you use your melee for big enemies
true bison
Thats boring I want to shoot the big dudes
fading canopy
but actually tho some builds destroy montrosities
true bison
If I wanted to melee big dudes id be my zealot
fading canopy
it's really just preference tho mk6 is generally stronger. mk3 needs a dedicated...
thanks i thought the mk3 was the good one
turbid ibex
If I wanted to melee big dudes id be my zealot
veteran has really good melee too
hollow ibex
thanks i thought the mk3 was the good one
mk6 has a stronger horde clear combo due to sweeping heavies, mk3 needs to rely on lights and bleed
true bison
But if I'm gonna be the ranged class then goddamn it im gonna use my ranged
turbid ibex
mk6 has a stronger horde clear combo due to sweeping heavies, mk3 needs to rely ...
mk6 also has stronger single target from PA
fading canopy
whats the other knife do better even
turbid ibex
But if I'm gonna be the ranged class then goddamn it im gonna use my ranged
veteran isnt really ranged class
hollow ibex
mk6 also has stronger single target from PA
in theory, costs a lot of stam tho
turbid ibex
its much more of a hybrid class
hollow ibex
But if I'm gonna be the ranged class then goddamn it im gonna use my ranged
only psyker and potentially hive scum are true ranged classes at this point
true bison
only psyker and potentially hive scum are true ranged classes at this point
I hate this game:[
fading canopy
only psyker and potentially hive scum are true ranged classes at this point
and lowkey that aint even true either
my main psyker build is melee psyker
with a laspistol on the side
mmm
melee is just very important in darktode
turbid ibex
just because you can build meleeker doesnt mean psyker cant be a true ranged class
hollow ibex
and lowkey that aint even true either
it's just h ow much a class can get away with using only ranged exclusively really
with psyker you can do 100% ranged
true bison
melee is just very important in darktode
I get that much but I love magdumping a crusher
hollow ibex
with hiv, prob 99%
fading canopy
just because you can build meleeker doesnt mean psyker cant be a true ranged cla...
it can be but they aint necessarily ranged
i thought thats what u meant
hollow ibex
melee is everywhere yeah
fading canopy
if any class can do only ranged its definitely psyker
but its boring as balls
fuck staves
turbid ibex
there is a reason the game calls melee your primary and ranged your secondary
turbid ibex
I get that much but I love magdumping a crusher
not really a good idea with almost every gun in the game
true bison
not really a good idea with almost every gun in the game
A good idea it is not but a fun one
fading canopy
not really a good idea with almost every gun in the game
helbore can beat carapace right
true bison
Charged shot charged shot charged shot will never not be fun when im out of kraks
turbid ibex
helbore can beat carapace right
mk4 yeah
maybe revolver with hand cannon but thats not really mag dumping
theres also needler but its scum only
anything else is just not worth shooting into crushers
true bison
Helbore😍
fading canopy
anything else is just not worth shooting into crushers
electro stafF !!
fading canopy
i love gambling !!!
true bison
Veteran electro staff when
turbid ibex
electro stafF !!
staffs dont count
fading canopy
i guess inferno staff cant beat carapace
turbid ibex
they have infinite ammo so one of the primary reasons you dont shoot crushers is already out the window
fading canopy
weird
turbid ibex
i guess inferno staff cant beat carapace
uncanny
dry cloak
Rewuires knife ds or blaze fs
turbid ibex
uncanny strikes
fading canopy
uncanny strikes
on the fire staff
fading canopy
yeah thats what i mean tho
turbid ibex
stack uncanny
fading canopy
i mean its broken cause
duh
and u will have a ds with it because ur already using inferno staff
so ur already boring
dry cloak
Ds🤮
fading canopy
boltgun kinda works vs carapacen o ?
honest quiver
goes hard ngl
fading canopy
goes hard ngl
give to me
honest quiver
give to me
ermm haha..... i dont think So....
fading canopy
ermm haha..... i dont think So....
WHY not
fading canopy
whats a weezo
honest quiver
whats a weezo
@real flint will explain
honest quiver
<@111944938568097792>hi i gotta know
hi
fading canopy
or like crazy good
honest quiver
yes
fading canopy
fuck
honest quiver
it's insanely good
past peak
I was using the Plasma Gun since launch when it was objectively bad
Just for love of a plasma
honest quiver
it's goated
fading canopy
I was using the Plasma Gun since launch when it was objectively bad
yeah but like
honest quiver
once you learn the reload cancel too it's basically the best
honest quiver
thats because ur hacking
fading canopy
once you learn the reload cancel too it's basically the best
wdym by that...
honest quiver
ur cheating
turbid ibex
boltgun kinda works vs carapacen o ?
not really
honest quiver
wdym by that...
there are some stages to the plasma reload where you can quickly switch to your melee and back and skip to the next reload stage
turbid ibex
bolter does not have the ammor to make shooting crushers viable
fading canopy
relic blade and heavy eviscerator i guess
fading canopy
bolter does not have the ammor to make shooting crushers viable
it works for like
three crushers
honest quiver
the first stage is when you remove the twisty bottle cap at the bottom of the gun, replace it, and you see the little eject button re-engage
then you switch and it proceeds to the spinny thing on the top
fading canopy
the first stage is when you remove the twisty bottle cap at the bottom of the gu...
oh i think i do that
fading canopy
u just skip the long inbetweens
honest quiver
yeah
turbid ibex
even after they nerfed the infinite cleave
it was never infinite cleave but yeah the nerf didnt really do much
real flint
honest quiver
it was never infinite cleave but yeah the nerf didnt really do much
i think im thinking of something else
turbid ibex
the bigger nerf it got that patch was the swap speed
honest quiver
being 100% real i did not notice the swap speed change at all
i'm still playing with it exactly the same as i always did lol
maybe it's my talents or smth
fading canopy
hello
i just had to quit plasma gun
cause i cant have plasma gun and powersword
it makes me move like a stone
honest quiver
r u insane
fading canopy
and everyone makes fun of me for it
turbid ibex
being 100% real i did not notice the swap speed change at all
really makes you see how much the nerfs affected it 
honest quiver
you will be moving like an Axe Murderer
think i might buy this ace cosmetic
mayb...
fading canopy
you will be moving like an Axe Murderer
wdym
i
it makes me NOt mobile
and so everone told me im a moron for it
honest quiver
you will be killing literally everything
psword is so good
you just need that blessing that gives u three charges and ur set
fading canopy
psword is good but the lack of mobility means
if im in a bad spot im cooked
i like it
it makes me more mindful of positioning
very skill weapon trust
because like
when i play melee psyker with knife
and scrier and dd
i literally cannot be in a bad position
i move at mach 3
i am supersonic
honest quiver
moving fast is fun but being the secret tank that can handle getting jumped by ragers is fun too
honest quiver
also i didnt know mutants could do this...
fading canopy
also i didnt know mutants could do this...
so we are CHARGING the plasma gun
honest quiver
when i want more pen ya
honest quiver
i like charging it :))
fading canopy
i tried
honest quiver
i had a cool clip hang on
willow prairie
yeah it need specific build
fading canopy
hi
what does stability do on combat shotgun
is it fine if i have a 60% stabilty shotgun
turbid ibex
better accuracy
turbid ibex
better to dump mobility
turbid ibex
shouldve asked before wasting your resources
fading canopy
shouldve asked before wasting your resources
no i mean i did that like
ages ago
once
fading canopy
i wasnt even in the discord...
well its ur fault and now i have 0 plasteel 0 diamantine
and like 20 ordo dockets
honest quiver
charging can be fun!!
slightly unrelated clip this arby was a douchebag for not helping the ogryn
and he was spamming ping..
fading canopy
slightly unrelated clip this arby was a douchebag for not helping the ogryn
the normal hud looks like hell to me now
also what if arbites was in trouble !!
tame lodge
Doesn't matter
tame lodge
Ogryn down is top priority
Also really funny 500 shots to the back
Tanked by tg regen
honest quiver
oh yeah this was just heresy event lol
if i was in auric it definitely would've chewed me up
tawny badger
slightly unrelated clip this arby was a douchebag for not helping the ogryn
wait why didnt the arby help him wth
fading canopy
TWO of them!!!
thats fucked up
fading canopy
wait why *didnt* the arby help him wth
racism
hollow ibex
I’m only racist against smykers
amber vortex
I'm only racists against kriegs
but you can't be racist against kriegs
kriegers aren't people
tawny badger
Krieg smyker when
tall torrent
slightly unrelated clip this arby was a douchebag for not helping the ogryn
u got the same mesh streamer bug I have
u can fix it with this in user_settings.config
honest quiver
u got the same mesh streamer bug I have
i think my crashes were related to that stupid fucking servo_friend mod i had because i just got rid of it and i haven't crashed once
and yeah i think i forgor to change that when i verified
fading canopy
racist against ogryns…………
Ogryns r so cute
Like actually
Ogryn son or psyker daughter
honest quiver
chud son or chudette daughter
i stg if servo_friend was the thing that was causing me so much grief this week i'm going to shit a chicken
lean rune
hi, anyone knows what the focus target keystone is called in files (and also the damage boost it provides) so i can add them to better buff management?
tall torrent
Months in, just want pointers from others since a lot of the shit I cobbled toge...
Vraks V infantry autogun
Check pinned guide for info
orchid hemlock
But if I'm gonna be the ranged class then goddamn it im gonna use my ranged
Vet is better at melee than Zealot sorry to say it
orchid hemlock
I am not lying
true bison
Can't be true
orchid hemlock
I agree with everything Democracy Enjoyer says
Democracy enjoying with no freedom of ideals
Curious 🤓
true bison
I agree with everything Democracy Enjoyer says
I agree with you agreeing with whatever I said
south spindle
chud son or chudette daughter
Chudette daughter, at least she'll probably still end up married and happy 
brittle apex
So every time I try the basic bitch plasma + power sword build, I'm easily overwhelmed by packs of elites - really highlighted by the current modifier. The power sword has low stamina and a weak dodge so I eventually get surrounded unless I've got a nice kiting area. I also can't stand the activation as a separate action every 3-4 swings. I don't know why it's not popular but I vastly prefer the power falchion (Mk IIb). For context I have 1.2k+ hours on the game, vet is true level +232 and my current Havoc rating is 32 so I think I should know what I'm doing. I feel like I must be missing something.
hollow ibex
So every time I try the basic bitch plasma + power sword build, I'm easily overw...
Falch is mid
People use it because they don’t like PS and want a power weapon
But falch is significantly weaker
PS also handles elite hordes quite well if you take sunder
brittle apex
Weaker in just raw dps? Or in other areas
quiet lark
uptime for powered swings
hollow ibex
Yeah the stagger is huge
fair shale
It's generally just worse
hollow ibex
And PS has way better uptime than falch
tame lodge
Weak in blessings too
So it really is hydrogen coughing baby bomb (power sword) vs _____(falchion)
hollow ibex
Dw fatshart gave falch a 3 percent damage buff
sharp epoch
So every time I try the basic bitch plasma + power sword build, I'm easily overw...
yeah ps can get overwhelmed but thats just the tradeoff for the damage
brittle apex
And PS has way better uptime than falch
I find that having an extended unbroken period of swinging is more useful than just raw uptime of clicking to charge every few swings. It doesn't always go off even with the guaranteed action mods. Do you sprint / weapon swap cancel?
sharp epoch
ps will go off if you swap weapons or break your combo or get hit
hollow ibex
I find that having an extended unbroken period of swinging is more useful than j...
Well PS really rewards positioning and pushing
If you work around that the downtime doesn’t even matter
When falch is down it’s really down
For a while too
Not to mention it has way worse damage output and horde control generally
Can’t even reliably stagger ragers 😭
orchid hemlock
So every time I try the basic bitch plasma + power sword build, I'm easily overw...
PS is by far the best melee weapon probably in the entire game
So everything else feels mid compared to it unless you get something with super high mobility like tac Axe or dueling sword and use it more for a reposition tool
quiet lark
i think fgs is better tbh
orchid hemlock
Nah
quiet lark
but undoubtedly ps is one of the best weapons in the game (top 2/3)
orchid hemlock
Best weapon in the game is shovel change my mind
orchid hemlock
Top 1 vibe check
turbid ibex
Weaker in just raw dps? Or in other areas
pretty much everything
except mobility
but from what i remember falchion mobility isnt even that good
just decent
sharp epoch
i think shivs are up there
tall torrent
shivs are high t1
turbid ibex
theyre good but not in the same level
sharp epoch
also ogryn pmaul too
willow prairie
knife > shiv tbh
sharp epoch
knives heavy a lot slower or im just bad at using it
willow prairie
pmaul is probably ogryn best melee in havoc atm
turbid ibex
power maul is t0~t1
t0.5?
tall torrent
but it's insane at that 1 trick
willow prairie
otherwise it kinda dog outside h3
tall torrent
power maul is just flat out best mixed horde control melee
better that everything else by significant margin
but it's not good at pretty much every other metric outside that
monster dmg meh
carapace dps is ok with skullcrusher but not amazing
sharp epoch
its pretty good to pair with on those twinlink gungryn builds cause you can just melt bosses and cara
willow prairie
you can't melt boss and cara with pmaul
sharp epoch
with gun
willow prairie
your damage dip a lot after initial activation hit
tame lodge
carapace dps is ok with skullcrusher but not amazing
Wonder if you still 3-shot with it
tall torrent
Wonder if you still 3-shot with it
with activated atk yes
tall torrent
Oh true
without activated atk it's like 2 loops of single target combo for 1 crusher
on a melee spec stagger build
which is ok but not amazing
tame lodge
Good enough
Welcome back power maul
shy valley
so i wanted to ask about the mark 4 hellbore, the iron sight is different compared to the other marks, so do i aim where the red circle is or the yellow area?
quaint marsh
Tip of the red
obtuse crypt
is exploit weakness worth it on powersword? i feel like i wont crit that often
tame lodge
It's worth it
quiet lark
considering you have baseline 20% crit and +5% on dodge you'll crit pretty often
tall torrent
so i wanted to ask about the mark 4 hellbore, the iron sight is different compar...
red
tall torrent
is exploit weakness worth it on powersword? i feel like i wont crit that often
worth it all the time basically
somber axle
is exploit weakness worth it on powersword? i feel like i wont crit that often
Vet has a base 10% crit. Between Reciprocity +25% crit at max stacks and Desperado +10% crit you'll be at 45% crit chance. It's still definitely worth
turbid ibex
is exploit weakness worth it on powersword? i feel like i wont crit that often
always take it
gentle lake
so i wanted to ask about the mark 4 hellbore, the iron sight is different compar...
yeah red spot there.
amber vortex
also that guy that hates Krieg is going to be so upset at this shop rotation LOL
He is
The shovel and helbore are nice, I will agree
somber axle
It feels like they put Krieg in rotation a lot more often than others
somber axle
Gas masks are cool but the Krieg gas masks lack the same style imo
They lose a lot of the intimidation factor of the other designs I've seen
How the look vs how I wished they looked
amber vortex
Ugh, that pic again
somber axle
Yeah it has probably been shown a lot LOL
amber vortex
How many times has that been posted on the reddit?
somber axle
Maybe one day
I kinda wish they'd do more gas mask helmets like the Steel Legion helmet
It has the connecting tubes into the filter leading to behind the helmet
amber vortex
Watch steel legion get another set, for their redesign in 11th edition
amber vortex
(The superior gas mask and trench coat guardsmen)
somber axle
I feel like the new AdMech is their main development focus right now
Probably why they re-released Krieg
They probably have Catachan saved for a themed week once they finish the designs
amber vortex
I don't think we've even gotten catachan cosmetics
Weirdly, we did get ork hunters? I think?
somber axle
Nope no Catachan yet
And they did put Catachan on the poll they did like ages ago
A lot of the other regiment names on that poll have been done already, a few multiple times over
The very first ever cosmetic they released for Vet in Darktide post release has the vibe of Catachan with the green camo look but it's just generic commando
And shares the model with a lot of other "commando" recolours
There was a manufactory worker style cosmetic set that used the chest too
somber axle
My tinfoil hat theory is that Catachan is the "save in case need money" glass box
It will sell very well
They don't need to commit to it right now because they have had Expeditions, classes, Skulls event, etc. as their primary focus for a while
somber axle
I do like how the current design has an empty-headed look
Like Pyro from TF2
Just looks mildly goofy
LOL
somber axle
Why do you call it that? Some sort of like... German joke about wienerschnitzel or something?
amber vortex
somber axle
Though also "goofy" is probably not the vibe for a guard regiment
ohmygosh what is that gimp mask??
amber vortex
Probably
somber axle
If they ever make a clown costume it will be my main cosmetic going forward
We have clown pants already
I just need the right top to match
restive mountain
How did we get ork hunters before catachan?
Wasn’t the Catachan set the very first set we ever got
sly orchid
Wasn’t the Catachan set the very first set we ever got
it was the vet bomber jacket
somber axle
Wasn’t the Catachan set the very first set we ever got
No. They clarified that's a generic commando look. It's not Catachan
obtuse crypt
alrught
somber axle
It looked like one, the name made it seem like one, but that's just because of the similar theme
somber axle
https://tenor.com/view/eye-look-stare-gif-17866318
restive mountain
it was the vet bomber jacket
No it wasn’t dude what…
restive mountain
The bomber jacket was its own outfit
somber axle
It was a Flak chest plate in green camo
sly orchid
yes
somber axle
With a green bandana
sly orchid
which was the first cosmetic for vet
somber axle
It really looked like a Catachan Jungle Fighter but it wasn't
sly orchid
alongside gold skull mask zealot
restive mountain
No. They clarified that's a generic commando look. It's not Catachan
I doubt we’d get it then
There’s still the karst camo fatigues I’d like for them to release but I doubt they will
Seeing as it doesn’t match with literally anything
Surprised I can still find this old ass screenshot
pseudo fiber
They don't need to commit to it right now because they have had Expeditions, cla...
small problem with your theory
FS don't make the shop cosmetics
they're outsourced
fading canopy
https://preview.redd.it/no-more-timer-for-cosmetic-shop-v0-ljzzmofuvp4a1.png?aut...
\so expensive !
somber axle
small problem with your theory
Are they in charge of release schedules on it?
I know they have to double check with Games Workshop on updates and things, and if Games Workshop doesn't give the greenlight it gets delayed
Because if so then it's probably still a "hold until need money" glass box
pseudo fiber
Are they in charge of release schedules on it?
unclear all I can say is they don't make them tho
however GW has weekly meetings with fs
somber axle
makes sense yeah
tawny badger
they're outsourced
Swedish game companies when you tell them to make shit themselves instead of outsourcing
somber axle
They're a lot more strict with their IP than a lot of others
somber axle
Swedish game companies when you tell them to make shit themselves instead of out...
Blizzard outsourced Warcraft Reforged to some mobile game company and it sucked LOL
I think it's just companies trying to save money at worst, and at best they're trying to relieve pressure on their dev teams by putting some of the work elsewhere
sly orchid
Swedish game companies when you tell them to make shit themselves instead of out...
Now to be fair
somber axle
Which could free up Fatshark's own designers to focus on maps, weapons, new class stuff, etc.
pseudo fiber
Swedish game companies when you tell them to make shit themselves instead of out...
they make earnable cosmetics in house
sly orchid
Fatshark does alot more inhouse than arrowhead lmao
sly orchid
however GW has weekly meetings with fs
How do they find the time
Theres like alot of studios with 40k games
somber axle
it's probably just some upper management thing
just a scheduled moment where suits take turns talking at each other and then disappear after a few hours
pseudo fiber
the reason the scum trailer got delayed is GW forgot toapprove it
sly orchid
It was incomprehensibly stupid
restive mountain
They're a lot more strict with their IP than a lot of others
This being said
But then me seeing a rainbow clad space marine
sly orchid
Fatshark's first roadmap in a long time
restive mountain
With chaos insignias
sly orchid
Gets delayed cause of outside factors
restive mountain
Screaming “For ultramar”
tawny badger
let them cook
it's like alpha legion where you have no goddamn clue whose side they're on
restive mountain
I’m pissed the fuck off how we have perfectly designed stuff in game already
Like a proper commisar outfit
And we get some fuck ass jank shit leather blazer
tawny badger
or rannick's revolver
restive mountain
Exactly
tawny badger
like j-
bro
genuinely if they sold rannick's revolver as a skin they'd make a darktidilion dollars
restive mountain
We had/have a whole ass unfinished tempestus scions chest piece
Aswell as a helmet
And backpack
Like a lot of the art direction for uniforms is so odd
I wish someone could just come out and tell us flat why shit like this happens
Cause there’s no way GW approves a scion helmet
But not an accompanying uniform
In a color that’s not even the blue the scions wear
somber axle
But then me seeing a rainbow clad space marine
you don't like the box of crayons marine??
pseudo fiber
In a color that’s not even the blue the scions wear
It's just generic cadian green tbf
restive mountain
you don't like the box of crayons marine??
somber axle
LOL
tawny badger
question about onslaught
does a shotgun blast proc it per pellet or is the whole blast just one proc
restive mountain
It's just generic cadian green tbf
Yeah and that’s odd cause like every depiction of scions right
They’re almost always wearing blue
pseudo fiber
Well that's just one regiment that's the 55th Kappic Eagles
IDK why they're the main one
but they are!
hearty panther
Swedish game companies when you tell them to make shit themselves instead of out...
with GW it just makes sense, and FatShark has worked with GW long enough to know that it's much easier to just let somebody else deal with that fucking headache than to waste production time with their own staff chasing ideas for GW to shoot down
restive mountain
I wish FS had a system implemented like how Bethesda does
Where they just contract out members of the community and pay them a flat fee for their work.
Be a lot better than these fuck ass, possibly ai gen outfits we get.
hollow ibex
question about onslaught
does a shotgun blast proc it per pellet or is the whole...
You think we’d hate onslaught if it procced per pellet?
hollow ibex
Would be hilarious if it procced per pellet tho
hearty panther
Be a lot better than these fuck ass, possibly ai gen outfits we get.
and then GW would come around and decline them
restive mountain
I wonder what gives with the hate boner for fat shark in particular
Cause other games have definitely taken some creative liberties with the ip
atomic void
GW are strict with everything
they're over protective
BUT i feel like people like to use GW as an execuse for everything
hearty panther
partially
what needs to be made REALLY FUCKING CLEAR
is that FatShark has ZERO PART in the shop cosmetics
they dont make suggestions
they cant point to work theyve done in the game itself
the process in its entirety is completely outsourced to a different company that does the work based off of GW's specs
they sold that work off before the game launched
well, that contract, specifically
pseudo fiber
I think FS does give some feedback
hearty panther
oh im sure
pseudo fiber
I remember saying that it was a shame that psyker didn't get a cool hat with the other Vostroyan stuff
pseudo fiber
4 months later
pseudo fiber
somber axle
them only being able to make suggestions at best explains why we waited so long for full cover helmets with visors LOL
restive mountain
That shit gotta be the most inefficient way to make money
“Here’s some shit we pushed out”
No one asks for it
And it’s a toss up if people are gonna buy it or not
Like atleast if they did more polls for shit like
“Hey tell us what you’d be willing to spend money on”
And just put out a questionnaire with a few months of leeway
It’s not like we get more than 2 shop rotations a month anyway
somber axle
I feel like they're vaguely aware of what accounts are spending on what cosmetics
They can track how many people died in Expeditions
they've definitely got basic data analytics tracking for sales
somber axle
the data is ultimately just ammo to go "hey please do this" at gunpoint when sales are poor
restive mountain
Those are like the only 2
hearty panther
they definitely make their money ill say that much
restive mountain
For sure
No matter how ugly and dog shit the cosmetics can get
SOMEONE
Will always be there to buy it
pseudo fiber
I used the Mk2b falchion thinking "surely it can't be as bad as I remember" and it's worse
pseudo fiber
Mk1 at least has the push attack combo
pseudo fiber
Playing Falchion Brauto
is it... good?
hollow ibex
Playing Falchion Brauto
pseudo fiber
Love the feelings of frustration
More or less frustrating than reading r/darktide
tame lodge
Definitely less 💀
pseudo fiber
One day the Falchion will be good c:
a few more 10% damage buffs we'll be there
I hate that the 2b looks cooler and has a visually cooler moveset but nooo
noooo
it's gotta be shite
slow spade
a few more 10% damage buffs we'll be there
Perma charged pls UwU
pseudo fiber
Perma charged pls UwU
what if it was perma charged adn you could like pop it for stagger or soemthing adn that turned it off
that'd be cool
what if it was anything else
what if the world was made of pudding
quiet lark
congratulations dreg ragers
restive mountain
I'M FREE
Now you gotta farm the secret level vet outfit
The blacked out uniform with gold carapace armor
tawny badger
FUCK
tame lodge
what if the world was made of pudding
I would be diabetic
I just can't resist pudding
And my body would not Keep up
restive mountain
https://tenor.com/view/mustafa-necohaus-kitty-cat-warhammer-40k-gif-115009188809...
He’s not wearing winter gear
steel lagoon
hi, anyone knows what the focus target keystone is called in files (and also the...
Easier to use the Simple Buff Filter mod. It uses the talent names for the buffs.
restive mountain
False reporting
tidal fox
https://tenor.com/view/mustafa-necohaus-kitty-cat-warhammer-40k-gif-115009188809...
penal colony outfit clears
tawny badger
I hate myselves
indomitable incursion + you cant see shit
indomitable incursion + you cant see shit
indomitable incursion + you cant see shit
help
quiet lark
I hate myselves
love urselves <3
fading canopy
I hate myselves
big skelton
steep flower
I just can't resist pudding
I feel ya
I love pudding myself
strong umbra
when u bring meta havoc 40 to maelstrom
quiet lark
they hated him for he spoke the truth
tame lodge
Because it's always right to hate on smokers
south spindle
Because it's always right to hate on smokers
Hey! We're already killing ourselves, we don't need you to make us feel even worse about it
tame lodge
💀
junior haven
hollow ibex
Cuz smoke is mid outside of very high havoc
unreal nova
Cuz smoke is mid outside of very high havoc
Also got fixed so even worse now.
It used to work a little past the smoke poofing or them walking out of it for a little time.
strong umbra
Cuz smoke is mid outside of very high havoc
not really 
when still have noob on maelstrom like look at this if i dont have smoke they are dead
kindred panther
Hey can someone help me figure out which type of build this is
My friend had a veteran in his match that two shot the beast of nurgle with a combat knife
On malice
distant plaza
unreal nova
My friend had a veteran in his match that two shot the beast of nurgle with a co...
Melee vet all in to crits and weakspot hit on the blister and getting lucky with crits..
Likely push atk on mk6.
worthy dragon
Guys, which stat do you set to 60% for the Plasma Gun? Thermal Resist? Ammo or Charge Rate?
unreal nova
Guys, which stat do you set to 60% for the Plasma Gun? Thermal Resist? Ammo or C...
Thermal if poor. 68-69 thermal/72-71 charge rate if minmax.
worthy dragon
But why tho?
unreal nova
68/72 needs to be tested though.
unreal nova
But why tho?
8 shots in a row with fastest charge time while having it.