veteran-class

[hybrid prawn]

flak chest carapace head

[fading canopy]

Oh

[tawny badger]

I thought maulers were- yeah

[fading canopy]

Yeah

[hybrid prawn]

scab rager is carapace body flak head

[fading canopy]

Carapace sucks anyways if I have a stabby attack

[hybrid prawn]

both have flak inside (for dot calculation)

[tawny badger]

don't bulwarks also have carapace on their body/limbs

[fading canopy]

They look pretty naked to me

[hybrid prawn]

armor part yes

[turbid ibex]

Ye some parts are carapace

But head is unyielding

[tawny badger]

they should just strap bulwark shields on their monstrosities

[fading canopy]

Bulwark beast of nurgle ?

Give them a plasma gun while ur at it

[tawny badger]

beast of nurgle but they pull a King Hippo and hold a bulwark shield to their back weakspot

[fading canopy]

Sounds fair

[fading canopy]

WHAT

I didn’t know their chest was carapace

wtf

[tawny badger]

that's why we don't talk about this

them

bastards

[sly orchid]

it was a somewhat recent change

[tawny badger]

imagine needing armor

[sly orchid]

HOWEVER

scab ragers still have a flak core according to the game

[fading canopy]

It’s all the same when faced with a combat knife

[turbid ibex]

Plasma gunner is almost the same but shoulder and thighs are unarmored

[fading canopy]

Shove attack in head

[sly orchid]

so damage over time effects treat scab ragers like flak armor

[fading canopy]

Does that make them a decent target or

[desert viper]

ya

[tawny badger]

plasma gunners are lowk bullshit

[fading canopy]

Why

[turbid ibex]

Good luck hitting them

[unreal nova]

At least they weren't intro plasma gunners.

[fading canopy]

Hordes aren’t real

[turbid ibex]

Youre prob better off hitting torso if your gun sucks ass against carapace

[unreal nova]

3 shots you dead isn't fun.

[tawny badger]

"here's a sniper with a carapace head, less warning cues and also there's a darktillion of them"

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[turbid ibex]

You prob already have flak on your gun anyway

[thorn lark]

no guide for classes

[fading canopy]

Gun ?

[sly orchid]

plasma gunners are very fun

[turbid ibex]

Those were launch yeah

Havent had much issue with them recently

[fading canopy]

shove attack

[turbid ibex]

Shove attack on what

[fading canopy]

combat knife

[tall torrent]

play 1 single game of DT
immediately agree with radovid V in W3

[turbid ibex]

Just hit then in the head

You have uncanny

[fading canopy]

well yes but im still doing shove attack

it’s stabby and fast

[turbid ibex]

Yes

And hit them in the head

[fading canopy]

always

I don’t think there’s one enemy where im not aiming for the head with knife

[turbid ibex]

Beast of nurgle

[sly orchid]

the witcher 3 giving you quite complex moral choices

[fading canopy]

oh I guess that’s not the head yeah

[turbid ibex]

You aim at the glowing back part

[sly orchid]

i also believe you can indirectly get quite a few sorceresses killed in the games

[tall torrent]

it's not that complex tbh
but it is way better than 90%+ of other RPGs

[fading canopy]

does that big ass slug even have a proper head

[turbid ibex]

Either way youre not aiming for it

[fading canopy]

would be cool if I could throw a grenade in its mouth

[hybrid prawn]

the mouth/tongue

and the giant weakpoint in the back

[tame lodge]

It does have a head part
It takes 0.9 melee and 0.5 ranged

[thorn lark]

how do you get levity? I forgot

[turbid ibex]

Mougue

[sly orchid]

the beast of nurgle mouth tentacle also takes weakspot damage

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flightreacts-twitch-kick-crazy-gif-4090492289322768290

[fading canopy]

Interesting

[sly orchid]

yeah so when it roars it takes quite alot of damage from shots

[tawny badger]

"whats wrong with 'speedrunning' maps"
the humble disabler:

[fading canopy]

Beast of nurgle should be released as a plushie

[unreal nova]

You can get fanmade ones, I guess.

[fading canopy]

Who would ever accept such a thing..

[pseudo fiber]

https://youtooz.com/products/weighted-nurgle-plush-16-inch?srsltid=AfmBOoo-6jUEezVrYFKL65XeRLogCwU_Mte63-Z0TIQVl4QaEUcd6ydj

Great news

[unreal nova]

It's actually ugly cute.

[steep flower]

Puking too

[hybrid prawn]

disabler not a problem for experienced player or the one with wallhack mod

[unreal nova]

@celest delta Gib pic of the BoN you are making.

[unreal nova]

So, git gud or cheat. Hrm.

[fading canopy]

I think so too

[fading canopy]

It’s so cute in a disgusting way

[fading canopy]

Disabler is a problem when they don’t give sound cue

Doesn’t happen often though

[turbid ibex]

What do speedrunners even do when they reach those doors that need the whole team to open

[unreal nova]

Maybe try going through them and fucking the game over?

Had one do just that and nobody else could activate the door.

[hybrid prawn]

wait for non speedrunner to die

stealth runner will dump all elites on them

im looking forward FS releasing packmaster to normal mission / havoc

[unreal nova]

So annoying when trying to clutch though.

[queen nimbus]

Anyone else feel like the basic lasgun feels bland

[feral stratus]

I like it, it's standard

No need for it to be fancy

Exec stance build with it feels pretty good

[copper vector]

Can devils claw/dueling sword parry multiple overheads at once
or does it go: you parry one and the second one downs you

[turbid ibex]

Its only one attack

As soon as it parries one attack youre immediately vulnerable again

So if your parry gets eaten by random poxwalker you'll just get overheaded and die

[copper vector]

💀

[grand perch]

hey, psst, you. you wanna get lasrifle pilled?

choose mk IX with MMF keystone, stack rending and delete armor with a dinky lasgun

[distant plaza]

👀

[grand perch]

older tech tree but you get the jist of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9nBh7uT7Ug

[turbid ibex]

No i dont

:3

[grand perch]

ok ill update the video

...after my vacation

[desert viper]

you are wonderful

thank you

[grand perch]

[desert viper]

also a certain Someone said you'd be enthusiastic about havocs

:3

[grand perch]

i was, then rotten armor came

[fair shale]

Real lol

[desert viper]

but what if cranial moebian

Wink Wink nudge nudge

[grave stump]

i just learnt the revolver is really good on vet it's now my new favorite weapon

[tame lodge]

True

[unreal nova]

Bonus, Rot Blight fart gas.

[sly orchid]

you can one onecycle bosses with the agripinaa revolver and exe stance

[late sky]

True…

[late sky]

Very fun modifier with thunder hammer, heavy can opener

[fair shale]

It stops opening them at some point

[unreal nova]

Wait for rot blight and gas.

[late sky]

Gas is different, just armor is fun

[unreal nova]

Do you H40?

Where it becomes extra bs tanky?

[late sky]

Outlier, I’m talking about normal gameplay

[celest delta]

wip still but yeah

[hybrid plover]

You can't get rotten armor in normal difficulties though.

[late sky]

Swear it was an event before

Had a green aura coming from afflicted enemies?

[celest delta]

it was

even in like august iirc

event*

but thats it, for rotten armour in nonhavocs

[late sky]

Yeah it was a while ago. I was playing other games until recently tho

[tropic halo]

it was before got added to havoc

[tropic halo]

Thats Blight Spreads

[celest delta]

no, rot also does this

[analog mural]

Blight spreads is like neon green while rotten armour is more like stinky fumes

[somber axle]

hey has anyone gotten weird voice line bugs

like your character uses the wrong voice suddenly

I had a match where my character used the Professional voice but she's a Loose Cannon

I was the only Vet in the squad

Even goofier was that it was the male Professional voice

I didn't notice it at first until I saw the squad was 2 Psykers and an Ogryn

[open ravine]

here is a fun ranged build for the event

Can swap the no las ammo consumption on crit for cleave if you are running a non las

Also don't discount the share the highlight with squad it helps out a lot

[frosty fog]

I need help getting two different penances.

[toxic reef]

is it on overwatch?

[frosty fog]

I need help getting "On Overwatch" and "Make Every Shot Count"

[unreal nova]

Former, expedition extract immediately.

Latter, bring a double barrel.

No survivalist.

[twin sapphire]

Yeah I did both in one mission on expeditions

[frosty fog]

I'll try that. Any advice double barrel blessings?

[potent oyster]

Every Shot is easy, yeah: just brace every shot on any large crowds or big targets you see — don't worry about building the double barrel since your entire goal is to immediately dump all your ammo and get out

[old prairie]

i got make every shot count with a double barrel on the train mission

rolling steel i think it's called

[potent oyster]

Rolling Stell, yeah, which you can access easily through the No Man's Land special assignments

[twin sapphire]

also bring infiltrate for extract just incase

and as said before make sure you don't have survivalist aura

[old prairie]

the biggest danger is dying because your ammo gets refilled when you are rescued

[potent oyster]

I actually still need Overwatch, I should grab that now that expeditions are a thing

[twin sapphire]

isn't it heresy+? it's really easy to not die on heresy especially when you just run top extract

[strange crow]

Or just don’t take damage in a normal mission 🤯

[old prairie]

i cheesed the zealot's flesh wound one with expeditions but i don't feel bad about it because i had already completed the requirements in a regular mission, it just didn't count since it wasn't a private game

[potent oyster]

Oh, I got flesh wound on Rolling Steel

No, the one I'm struggling with on Zealot is the stun grenade kills 'cause I can never get a big enough crowd without teammates immediately killing everything before I even get the grenade out and I don't have enough friends who play the game at all to co-ordinate anything

[toxic reef]

ye you usually need a friend helping out

tho you can also do it on south africa servers to get a game with only bots

and then use flamer for the kills

[potent oyster]

Yeah, flamer is the strat I've tried

And I've tried using other server regions but my connection gets so bad that I can't even throw the grenade

[fading canopy]

looks amazing

[desert viper]

fun fact

if you have a friend that has stun grenades

you can complete their penance through their stun grenade

[potent oyster]

Oh, they just need to be hit with the stun grenade effect?

[desert viper]

how do I know? because some goober got it himself, off of my stun nate in a random lobby

[desert viper]

seemingly

[potent oyster]

Neat

[frosty fog]

stupid question, but does it mater if you join in the middle of a match?

[toxic reef]

no

idts

[tidal fox]

only for some penances

[agile mango]

Are smoke grenades much worse now after the fix to them yesterday or is it not really noticeable?

[tidal fox]

I havent noticed anything they're still goated

[toxic reef]

I didn't know they were bugged even until they fixed

I haven't run them in a hot minute

[potent oyster]

I was playing at, like, 4am last night and smokes seemed pretty effective

Don't think there was an update since, so yeah, smokes seem fine

[tidal fox]

my playstyle is mostly about rushing through the map though

so I might be wrong

I havent noticed anything bad

[nova frost]

it's just reverting back to the intended behaviour before the this patch dropped

[languid stump]

Kagurabachi but instead of being about a kid trying to avenge his father’s murder using a magical katana it’s about me decapitating a crusher with the power sword

It’s so fucking good how did I not try this earlier

[tame lodge]

Prejudice

🗣️

[forest lagoon]

What the actual fuck is going on with darktides servers at the moment

that was the literal worst lag I have ever experienced in any game, ever

[arctic ridge]

same for me. ugh.

[somber axle]

I had two matches this morning that were fine but that was 3 hours ago so idk

[lean rune]

is there something to the shredder grenades with duelling sword with uncanny strike?

i remember someone saying when you throw the nade you should melee some weakspots and it increases the bleed?

this is the case or no

[silver patrol]

yes

the bleed beneficts from uncanny strike

which is good because bleed has pathetic carapace adm otherwise

[steep flower]

Best out of all DoTs you mean (we do not talk about tox its bs anyways)

[silver patrol]

Isn't it the sane as fire

Uhhh 0.2?

[lean rune]

oki ty

[steep flower]

No
Fire has 0.1 adm
Bleed has 0.25 adm

[silver patrol]

Doesn't even make sense, fire would be more dangerous if you are inside an armor

[steep flower]

Welp; fire already has that anti-unyielding recognition to it

If that would be true then… bleed should just ignore armour and do full dmg

That would be unhealthy tho

[fading canopy]

The armor has integrated cooling

[tame lodge]

You can set their souls ablaze and the armor would still tank it

The imperium should make more armor like that

[fading canopy]

prison garb

[tidal fox]

prison garb goated

[faint beacon]

Plays one match with the Falcion and gets immediately reminded how fucking dogshit it is as a melee weapon

its so depressing

[thorn lark]

and sb?

[tame lodge]

0.1 too iirc

[orchid girder]

Hello good day, Do we have like a list of some veterans build that I can refer to?

[neon current]

.25

oh waits thats bleed

SB is .1 indeed

Unarmoured 1.5
Flak 1.5
Unyielding 1.5

why the fuck does SB need those tho lol

[quiet lark]

check the pinned guide for some builds and a template for yourself to work off of

[thorn lark]

I just need to look at a tier list to stop watching a youtuber

[thorn lark]

old code is old

[willow prairie]

you can stack uncanny on melee so that doesn't matter mostly

[forest lagoon]

is mortis trials bugged or something

I had a wave where the only specialist that spawned were snipers

every. single. one.

[sonic kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-ltt-bug-gif-19900847

[forest lagoon]

was quite literally impossible lol

[viscid mirage]

Any chance someone has / if there exists a resource available for audio files of Veteran Shouts

[copper vector]

What blessinga do y'all like with your Helbores
I've been running WoF and Surgical but I've seen Hotshot glaze too

[forest lagoon]

Does anyone in mortis trials actually know what they're doing?

[copper vector]

No one plays Mortis Trials in my region 😭

[forest lagoon]

All I've had is a bunch of useless fucking Psykers who refuse to do any objectives

[sonic kayak]

Yeah that's par the course

[forest lagoon]

this guy is a level 30 Psyker and instead of just doing the objectives he's just standing around watching me do it

I don't mind carrying lower levels

but not when I'm also trying to level my Arbites

if I'm playing vet or Psyker myself I can carry

[slow sky]

thats intentional

the wave could be all trappers too

[forest lagoon]

Trappers I can deal with

snipers are absolute hell

As awesome as the dog is at mauling elite enemies, Arbites doesn't really have much range unless you specifically choose a non shotgun

[slow spade]

Just use the long range shotgun

There's 2 of them

Agri combat shotgun and Exec Shotgun (with the long barrel)

[tame lodge]

https://youtu.be/oE8ZN18ka98?si=FqmXVLr7V0hPnlsw

[tame lodge]

Hotshot with the withering Fire talent gives it the equivalent to 9 cleave on headshot kills

[forest lagoon]

I like the shot pistol

but I was thinking of running the exe shotgun too

[slow spade]

Sadly the dropoff is harsh with the shot pistol

Even the Agri has harsh dropoff even on its Slug shot

Thankfully 1700 damage on crit weakspot hit (900 on normal weakspot) so hit your marks

[tame lodge]

Suffers from being a shotgun in Darktide

[copper vector]

like 9m of cleave? ho ly
i dont quite know what the ranged cleave numbers translate to

[slow spade]

It's kind of hard to explain without getting into numeric detail. But essentially enemies have certain mass and Cleave lets you pierce through them if you kill them

Part of why plasma can wipe hordes but stops at 1 crusher even though it had enough cleave to go through

[viscid mirage]

emprah bless ye

[somber axle]

Check the guide in pins. It should be the first one

There's a section on cleave and hit mass to explain things

If you're wanting more info on exact numbers for enemy type hit mass values (they change based on difficulty especially Havoc) check the Zealot channel

Zealots have a pinned guide there that lists detailed tables on hit mass and other info

Basic groaner as an example so you can see

They also list enemy ADM types and what parts of the body are what type of armour

[quasi surge]

For the Recon Lasgun if I'm spraying everything, would the better perk be Flak or 10% to Elites

[copper vector]

Thanks

[slow spade]

For this event, probably +10% to elites considering its a heavy mix of flak and maniac

For regular games, I'd go flak due to the higher hp of Scab enemies and their use of carapace helms

[steep flower]

can't remember...

[lofty mortar]

What would the threat code be for a traitor astartes be

Alpha-Minoris?

[tame lodge]

Astartes minoris

[tepid otter]

alpha mortis

cuz youd likely be ded meeting one

[tidal fox]

Meta crackhead build says otherwise

[lofty mortar]

The Guardsmen in my Wrath and Glory party would say otherwise

Have a guardsman sharpshooter that I kid you not is more consistent with his kill shots against targets than the fucking eliminator astartes

[tame lodge]

Aggressive boss is just dclaw victim

[tepid otter]

[tame lodge]

How does it feel to be victim of the worst melee in the game

🗣️

[tidal fox]

The chaos space marine when he hears "in the darkness, i judge"

[lofty mortar]

My Scions/Kasrkin shoot better and harder than space marines for the cost of 1 (one) command point already
Chaos Space Marines when they hear the Stormtrooper captain yell out "LAY IT ON THICK"

[late sky]

Chaos Space Marines when they hear a snobby noble shout “ABELARD!”

[fervent hemlock]

is braced suppression build a meme or is it actually useful

i was having some fun with it but im not sure if htat's cause i was just being annoying rather than being useful

[turbid ibex]

meme

just kill them

suppression is at most a small bonus

[rustic kite]

Plasms Gun Dump Stat?

[rustic kite]

I wanns start a cadian army but no munies lol rn i have salamanders and Raptors

[fair shale]

@tired egret

[tawny badger]

I feel like suppression is sometimes more of a detriment

[rustic kite]

Im so down bad for cadia im making every Kasrkin model (except meltagun and melts mine)

So far I have Kasrkin w Vox, Kasrkin Sergeant, Kasrkin w Marksman Rifle snd Kasrkin Trooper. I need to do Kasrkin with Volley Gun and Kasrkin with Plasma Gun

[tame lodge]

Suppression is just an underrated mechanic

[somber axle]

The average player is 100% going to die but the weird dudes named things like Dh-foot-collector are going to rip apart a Space Marine with zero effort

[slow spade]

average model dies but the named ones win. GW could learn from this UwU

[tidal fox]

yeah my Ogryn named BoogaOoga is absolutely obliterating a greater daemon tbh

[tidal fox]

abelard wouldnt make it in time cause he'll be dragged down by his massive steel balls

[unreal nova]

You mean, Lamia Lover or something like that.

[somber axle]

Unfortunately no. I got matched with someone named Dh-foot-collector who played fine but would solo rush any and every Daemonhost on the map, killed them before they could finish their waking up animation and then say something like "feet secured"

They were a Hive Scum doing crazy boss damage

Quickplay has funny creatures lurking LOL

[unreal nova]

The joke is I'm talking about the guy who solos H40 legit.

[tidal fox]

he needed some exotic specimens I cant blame him

[somber axle]

Ah ok I didn't know about that guy but he could probably take a traitor space marine too

[unreal nova]

Ainz.

Lul.

Hard mode twins is a casual experience for him solo.

[somber axle]

I mostly lurk in Vet chat so idk a lot of the names of the discord other than the ones who talk here a lot

I've seen Ainz post a few times tho

I just didn't know they were that crazy good at Darktide

[late sky]

Morrow: Come on! Come on! You can access the elevator! What’s taking so long?!

Rejects: LOUD METALLIC SCRAPING NOISE There’s been a setback

[somber axle]

If he's after Daemonhost feet he's not after anyone else's and that works just fine for me

[unreal nova]

He is, absolutely.

[somber axle]

The devs have to look at players like that and wonder how to tune new bosses LOL

[tidal fox]

devs just need to give carapace enemies a fat gaping hole of a weakness on their backs

ez

[somber axle]

If they ever put in a traitor Space Marine and a player kills it without taking any damage day 1 Fatshark will never live it down

[tidal fox]

"God-emperor, shield me from sight..."

[slow spade]

"Players don't like the carapace meta? Surely doubling elite spawns will help" UwU

[tepid otter]

whats peoples blessing on the revolver again, the one with ADS

[sullen apex]

i can't find a good build to run

[tepid otter]

enjoying combat shotty atm, but I wanted to try something diff

[tame lodge]

Surgical + Hand Cannon/Run Gun/ Trick shooter

[tepid otter]

thenkies

[tame lodge]

You could also run Point Blank instead of Surgical

[tepid otter]

i'll gib it a go

[willow prairie]

you don't need surgical if on ws

revolver also do more damage on ws iirc

[twin sapphire]

abelard could stop the atoman revolt in a day, as long as the von valancius trader told him to

[slow spade]

"You. Kill it"

Noble RT UWOH

[twin sapphire]

abelard, BRING IT DOWN

compared to navy service, that was barely a challenge!

[willow prairie]

abelard, get him pregnant

[tidal fox]

abelard would love dclaw

given how much he fucking parries to infinity

[slow spade]

Abelard is peak

[late sky]

I bought the circular eye augmetic for my zealot to become Abelard

[strong umbra]

HAVOC 40 THE sniper build

[tame lodge]

Fucking true lmfao

Lore Imperium moment

Also funny because it could be translated to
Space book says it bad

[slow spade]

All the companions are peak

Except Yrliet, I can't forgive you for getting us captured by the Dark Eldar of all factions

[willow prairie]

he a little pisser don't mind him

[twin sapphire]

it wasn't even mind control, it was just a bit of insanity iirc

he ||gets aged, starts seeing his wife as a hallucination, and goes a bit crazy||

[sharp epoch]

mfw ogryn kills as much specialist without a whole build for it

[slow spade]

brb nerfing ogryns

[trail ore]

HE PISSED HIMSELF

[patent raft]

i remember watching a random ogryn go on a rampage.

let alone a Psyker, Zealot or Arbitrator or Hive Scum.

although Hive Scum do it the most often.

[open ravine]

I like making Yrliet disappear. Also like making Commorragh more lively before I leave it

[slow spade]

yummy c:

[slow spade]

lol yeah same, we shoot her for the points and for Commorragh as our funny little Bio pskyer says

"I thought nothing in this city could make me smile, I was wrong" as we open a gateway lol

[open ravine]

The dark eldar deserve slaanesh

[slow spade]

I can deal with traitors and heretics

fucking sending me to Commorragh? Yeah I'm not letting that slide lmao

[south spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/james-mcavoy-sweating-fanning-yourself-cooling-off-sweat-meme-gif-25431489

[tall torrent]

finished relic blade section overhaul in guide

[turbid ibex]

Honestly quite incredible

[tall torrent]

also added in slaughterer related stuff for power sword VI
for power sword III I still think either sunder or BM would be better (but mainly sunder)

[turbid ibex]

For power sword 3 i think using power sword 6 would be better

:3

[tall torrent]

yea

also explicitly said X > II for relic blade in guide

it just is

[willow prairie]

cole gonna kill you fr

but yeah mk2 is more complex and not better

[tall torrent]

what for, saying the truth?

the only thing II does better is H3 being a 110% str atk is just high enough impact to stagger crusher out of atks

but u can also do this with any stagger talent on zealot, or with other str bonus like rampage or energy leakage

[willow prairie]

also sniping bulwark leg on h4 but it niche enough i think

[tall torrent]

H4 is overhead, not uppercut

[turbid ibex]

Who up ramping they age

[tame lodge]

It's cole
Just ignore it

[tame lodge]

Honse

[turbid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-haru-urara-woah-spinning-so-fast-uma-musume-gif-17233076072559719995

[olive halo]

yall Im thinking of taking a reload talent with the revolver

volley adept or tactical reload?

[tall torrent]

this usually comes down to pathing

[willow prairie]

weapon specialist subnode

[tall torrent]

but I wouldn't recommend either

[desert viper]

joyous day

[olive halo]

thats part of what I was considering too

[desert viper]

I cannot understand why people like mk 2

[olive halo]

cuz zarona already knocks really hard, so I dont think I need longshot

[tall torrent]

it has nice things

but is overall worse

[desert viper]

I tried it for a week straight and I still can't feel it the same I feel mk x

it feels like the uppercut has more dmg

but idk

[olive halo]

so its either exhilarating takedown + volley adept, or out for blood + tactical reload

[tall torrent]

no?

CK + longshot for revolver, usually

[tall torrent]

it does

[olive halo]

what breakpoint are u hitting with longshot?

[tall torrent]

it's more the fact that OM does almost nothing for revolver

u hav a gun that can swap to fire in 0.2s

[olive halo]

okay so if you dont take longshot or one motion

would you rather take the left or right side

[willow prairie]

why one motion on something that draw instantly

[tall torrent]

neither, just CK + either longshot or OM

[olive halo]

I didnt say I want one motion 😭, I was either gonna take exhilarating takedown + volley adept, or out for blood + tactical reload

[desert viper]

isn't om swap speed on everything tho

including nades n crates n stims

[tall torrent]

yea but are u implying that ur not taking CK

because if so then this is wack

[willow prairie]

longshot is easy to get value of

it also mitigate drop off

[olive halo]

I didn't imply it anywhere...

man I give up, Ill go try it myself in the psykhaunium

[tall torrent]

ok so if u already take CK
then u don't even need ET/OFB to consider pathing into either reload talent

and u also just don't need either reload talent for revolver usually

is this for a build using revolver but not using WS keystone?

[olive halo]

I am using weapon specialist, but I had a point to spare so I wanted to grab an extra talent from the top of the tree, being either ET or OFB

[tall torrent]

what does this build look like

[olive halo]

and thought "If Im not getting any breakpoints with longshot, and I don't need one motion, I might as well grab a reload talent"

[tall torrent]

why are u not taking the WS reload subnode for revolver

[turbid ibex]

And why both field improv and serrated

[desert viper]

knife build maybe

[tall torrent]

then drop field improv ez

[turbid ibex]

Would still be better to drop field improv

[olive halo]

reloading once from empty seems less valuable than being able to reload quickly if I need to shoot more gunners or smth

[desert viper]

idk about u guys but if i get a vet w/o field improv I strangle them

[olive halo]

yeah its knife

[tall torrent]

nah it's gud

[olive halo]

Realest shit I ever heard, passing extra grenades to teammates is so good

[desert viper]

unfortunately it makes vet feel like a lvl 29 class

[olive halo]

I can live without corruption heal but extra grenades my beloved

[tall torrent]

it shud just be a class iconic

if they wanted everyone to have it

and u shud not be forced to take it anyway

[desert viper]

literally

[stuck prairie]

true,,

[turbid ibex]

True

[stuck prairie]

what is a veteran build without field improv

[turbid ibex]

One with serrated

[tall torrent]

a good build, prob

[olive halo]

it should, but fatshark is a company well known for good decisions and always keeping the community happy

[desert viper]

I was doing h35 for true survivor yesterday and we had a scum on Chem nades and a vet without field improv

I never heard a man crash out about his chem nades not replenishing from the ammo crate that badly

[tall torrent]

if u need field improv to win then ur doing smth wrong

simple as

[stuck prairie]

you dont NEED it to win it just really helps idk shrugs

[quiet lark]

not letting scum crutch on chem grenade is a win to me

[desert viper]

I think it's more complicated than that idk

[olive halo]

if u need field improv to win then ur doing smth wrong

[tall torrent]

It’s not even that much help

[olive halo]

accept ur loss

[tall torrent]

It’s just ok

[stuck prairie]

kicks rock

[turbid ibex]

It also sucks that theres no way to know if the vet on your team has field improv until someone drops an ammo or health crate

[tall torrent]

The only reason I even take field improv is because the direct competition are niche

I would never take field improv if I’m not forced to take it

[desert viper]

I think if ur vet is doo doo AND they don't have field improv it's OK to blow them up

[olive halo]

if ur running the inspect from social you could always check manually, but yeah otherwise you don't
while ur waiting for everyone to ready up

[desert viper]

if u don't wanna make corruption healing and nade regens at least b good at the game

cus like wtf else u gonna take

withering?

[tall torrent]

I still don’t understand why u don’t have always prepared for this build using revolver

[turbid ibex]

Console

[turbid ibex]

Serrated

Its either withering, field improv or serrated

[desert viper]

but if no knife build why would

[stuck prairie]

rubs chin

[tall torrent]

Serrated is actually pretty big difference for sunder power sword in a solo/duo context

[thorn lark]

shovel

[tall torrent]

It’s like 25% fewer hits to kill mauler groups

[thorn lark]

so 3 to 2?

[desert viper]

in that context sure but I don't do duos or solo havocs

[tall torrent]

20 down to 15, vs 10 maulers

[desert viper]

that sounds like a pretty specific context too albeit useful

[tall torrent]

which is a substantial difference

[desert viper]

shovel w serrated true...

idk ppls feelings on shovel in havocs tho..

I like it but have been told to swap off alot

[tall torrent]

it's mid

[turbid ibex]

Ye

[desert viper]

thought so

[south spindle]

Mid, but still one of the most fun movesets in the game

Shovel is based

[tall torrent]

it's maxing neither dps nor safety, just mid

no moveset complexity

[desert viper]

I had the most success w mark 1

the flip shovels fucking

at least the blue one

is awful

green ones ok ig

has simple strikedown so u don't wait 3 business days

[south spindle]

That's why its fun, the TacAxe has the same deal, you're not reliant on specific combos all the time, you can just kinda do whatever the situation demands and it works

[tall torrent]

All 3 are mid at best

[tall torrent]

Tac axe has interesting things going on

Shovel doesn’t

[south spindle]

Folding shovels are less fun though imo

[tall torrent]

And people gaslight themselves into thinking it’s good or interesting

[desert viper]

what do tacaxe do

[tall torrent]

When it’s really neither

[south spindle]

TacAxe things

[desert viper]

I just see it as another bromentum headtaker

[turbid ibex]

Taxes

[stuck prairie]

I lov tacaxe

[tall torrent]

Multiple ways to break rager combo, dodge template override, really high finesse and innate crit bonus

[stuck prairie]

I love. Alot of the things in darktide actually idk

[tall torrent]

It’s the best self defense melee by a longshot

It also doesn’t need atk speed bonuses to work well

[stuck prairie]

frolicks around

[tall torrent]

So for vet it saves 1 point minimum

[south spindle]

I wouldn't run BM on TacAxe personally, but a lot of people will sethee on hearing this

[desert viper]

I mean. not that I would either

i use it for the finesse but

[tall torrent]

Tac axe without BM is significantly worse horde clear

[desert viper]

it doesn't seem special to me otherwise

[south spindle]

Counterpoint; Scum

[desert viper]

scum makes any melee good

[south spindle]

I mean yes, but seriously so in the case of the TacAxe, it gels so well with what Scummer wants to do

[tame lodge]

Be shit because of a singular thing

[desert viper]

is this trvke or is this fluke

[desert viper]

also true

[olive halo]

bcz even with max stacks it reloads 2 bullets. I'd rather spent the point to get a faster reload speed in case I need to shoot multiple gunners, or maybe even miss some shots and need to shoot more

[tall torrent]

That’s just hive scum

[tall torrent]

You can get reloads off from a single kill + swap

¿

[tame lodge]

Truth nuke

[south spindle]

Yes.

[tame lodge]

It has a cleave damage distribution cap

And that's makes it shit tier on my measurements

[tawny badger]

me realizing I need to revolve my revolver but there's 5 unsuspecting poxwalkers nearby

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-champloo-mugen-anime-watanabe-hmm-gif-9078495858427445448

[olive halo]

while true, at that point you're spending the same amount of time and isn't really much faster (also requiring you to go kill an enemy in melee then go back)

[tame lodge]

It's really sad that I have to load 7 bullets in this 5 bullets revolver

[tall torrent]

I feel like this is a case of u not playing it enough

[south spindle]

It's more about always having ammo in the gun when you actually really need it

An it scales with density ofc

More enemies = more freeloads

[tawny badger]

really though, main thing with weapon specialist/always prepared is to get into the groove of slash-shoot-repeat

[thorn lark]

some people hyped shovel when the average joe started using taxe because holy shit it is good

[tall torrent]

I don’t think tax axe before the buff was particularly good
I do think the post-buff tac axe is in a decent spot tho can still use adjustments

As for shovel it’s just mid and uninteresting

[south spindle]

Maybe not even shooting if you don't need to, just a quick swap here an there to push a few more rounds into it

[tawny badger]

hell that too

[unreal nova]

You can shoot a horde chaff if you just need the buff.

[south spindle]

Also yes

[thorn lark]

just to be clear, taxe was never really buffed, the game just powercrept it

[tall torrent]

I mean the buff to its heavy overhead atk

[steep flower]

Perfect gif from a goated anime
I approve

[steep flower]

Ye that needs to change

[tall torrent]

shud be class iconic and that talent swapped for smth else

[turbid ibex]

Agree

Also wouldnt that mean the bots would have field improv by default?

[steep flower]

Solid, slept on

[steep flower]

Pepegas; they dunno

[steep flower]

Ye blue is dog
Use green if you wanna use flipies

[tall torrent]

yea good

[tame lodge]

Lmao

5 classes with passives

And zealot

[steep flower]

Just like that infamous picture of a lil girl on a couch surrounded by big burly black dudes

[turbid ibex]

I was thinking more of that image of the kid struggling to swim in the pool while the mom held the other kid

[steep flower]

Thats just 3 entities tho

The girl one has more

[tough nova]

This would almost offset all the times they get you killed by not pushing bursters

[steep flower]

Almost
Its still painful to see such a code in… inaction

[unreal nova]

I just think if you know they running to a bot, it means gas gas gas as far away from said bot asap.

[steep flower]

I love it

[tawny badger]

big chungi

[somber axle]

I love this event on that carnival map Mercantile HL-70-04

so so SO many ragers LOL

the team I had left the gates open and we had constant rager swarms the whole time

It was so fun

[fading canopy]

plural of chungus is chungi ?

[turbid ibex]

In theory yeah

Same way fungus is fungi and cactus is cacti

[thorn lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D0sTBLQlzo

[somber axle]

yeah that's the map LOL

[thorn lark]

yeah a mate of mine recorded it

[somber axle]

the team I had held off the waves a little better

the only one who kept going down was the Smiteker

[thorn lark]

he was goofing around

of course lol

[turbid ibex]

Fork found in kitchen

[somber axle]

kinda wish I'd had Scoreboard on just to see how many Ragers I killed by the end

I brought the Mk IIb Infantry Lasgun into it and it cleaned up Ragers and Gunners so well

I need to do it again later just to see

[fading canopy]

that was me ggs

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/smyker-psyker-warhammer-40k-darktide-gif-18327129578094586864

[thorn lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076246644749766687/1333114351086731395/uncaption.gif

[hollow ibex]

not just abominable intelligence

but chinese abominable intelligence

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/how-people-with-blue-eyes-look-at-you-blue-eyes-people-blink-scary-gif-3937667069785399993

[somber axle]

Field Improv is so funny

no one else needs ammo so the Hive Scum is just taking every hit of the ammo pack to delete waves

LOL

[grand perch]

imagine joining a havoc 40 and immediately having a smite psyker get toxic because you chose not to go with kraks

[unreal totem]

does the vet have any dedicated impact node on his talent tree?

[turbid ibex]

closest we have is competitive urge

[tame lodge]

The second you have is Marksman

[unreal totem]

why I am using the medpack healing corruption node but when I throw the medpack, it doesn't heal corruption

[turbid ibex]

it doesnt clear corruption if the wound is fully corrupted

[stuck prairie]

yes

[turbid ibex]

same as every other corruption cleanse that isnt a med stimm or medicae station

[toxic reef]

yeah the only thing that fatshark describes correctly with this is zealot's aura

all others doesn't mention current wound

[stuck prairie]

cmon fatshark.. do better

[turbid ibex]

fatshark and dogshit tooltips

name a more iconic duo

[late sky]

The unfortunate wisher and the monkey’s paw

[turbid ibex]

eh

6/10

[unreal totem]

what I thought I just needed to put the med kit on the ground and would heal everything

[tough nova]

You can only heal corruption on current wounds

Ie if your first wound is full and your second is half full it will only remove from the second

[turbid ibex]

if a wound is completely corrupted the only way to remove that corruption is med stimms or medicae stations

or

well

dying

[tough nova]

Cleansing all corruption would prolly be too good since the corruption is one of the consequences of being downed.

[somber axle]

If you don't run wound curios (you shouldn't outside of Zealot with a certain keystone) then being able to heal almost half your HP of corruption is pretty huge

You can get rid of 49% corruption as long as it doesn't tick over to 50% and claim the whole wound

[unreal totem]

I had 1 full wound

and it didn't heal

[somber axle]

It would probably be too strong if it could heal without that current wound restriction tbh

[tough nova]

*current not full wounds

Fully corrupted wounds are fixed by medicae stim or death

[unreal totem]

I thought it could heal all corruption like medkay

[turbid ibex]

no

[unreal totem]

any melee weapon that isn't power sword?

power sword is so boring and annoying having to charge for every 3 hits

[dry cloak]

heavy sword

shock maul

shovel

[tame lodge]

Rashad combat Axe

[tough nova]

Taxe!

[tame lodge]

Knife

[unreal totem]

that is good

[toxic reef]

rashad is even more boring than power sword tho

[unreal totem]

heavy sword is good?

[turbid ibex]

rashad, taxe, knife, shovel

[dry cloak]

at everything but carapace

[toxic reef]

shovel is the most satisfying

[dry cloak]

hs dumpsters maniacs

mark wise

choose the one with moveset that fits you most

[tough nova]

Heavy sword 6 is so fun for this event

[unreal totem]

I was using shock maul but it suffers a bit with hordes

[dry cloak]

it does not

also which mark mate

[unreal totem]

the first one

[dry cloak]

the square one is worse at hordes

[unreal totem]

both has the same move set

[dry cloak]

mk3 is beteer

[dry cloak]

nope

[unreal totem]

shock maul?

[dry cloak]

yes

[unreal totem]

I am using the first one achlys

the one that has more damage on heavy attack

[dry cloak]

yeah

[unreal totem]

but everytime a horde comes, I always get chipped

[turbid ibex]

there isnt a achlys shock maul

[dry cloak]

its better into elites

[turbid ibex]

there is an agni

[dry cloak]

yup

[dry cloak]

try munitorum one

[dry cloak]

oof

dump mob

swap flak to cara if you need

just learn the moveset

[unreal totem]

inspecting both it shows the same move set

[dry cloak]

horde clear is h1 - l1 -repeat

[dry cloak]

it is much different

mk3 start with side sweep

[unreal totem]

and I tried using it and they showed the same move set

[dry cloak]

on heavy

[unreal totem]

on the psykranium

[dry cloak]

do you have 5 mins

[unreal totem]

I will test it right now

[turbid ibex]

no melee mark has the same moveset as another

[unreal totem]

yeah, but I hate having to do heavy into light

[dry cloak]

well

that was most of ogryn horde clear back in teh day

[unreal totem]

actually most of it was just heavy into heavy

so I got used to just spam heavy

or spam light

[turbid ibex]

get karsolas and just heavy into heavy into heavy into heavy into heavy into heavy into heavy into heavy into heavy into heavy

[tame lodge]

Just go Rashad Combat Axe
Light attack everything
Heavy attack carapace and Unyielding

With the occasional push attack light light for Ragers

[dry cloak]

idk what to tell you gauthak

humie weapons are more complicated than ogryn ones

[turbid ibex]

rashad in question

[dry cloak]

newer weapons

[quiet lark]

eviscerator mk 15 🙂‍↕️

[dry cloak]

eh

who do i argue with

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-stare-scared-shocked-wtf-gif-11869033912413958490

[unreal totem]

I am used to hit things and they fall

not having to do complicated combos

[amber vortex]

Just give ogryn a chainsword

Job done

[tame lodge]

Notice how it's not a good ranged weapon

Noticing

[faint beacon]

Nooticing Veterans lack of diverse melee choices also

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-uchiha-sasuke-naruto-naruto-shippuden-naruto-meme-gif-7334218848794066608

[tough nova]

What do you search to even find these gifs

[tame lodge]

Nooticing

Or just noticing

It's usually tied to the skeleton running through your screen too

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-dompler-smiling-friends-skeleton-running-away-see-you-gif-12734903994330642905

[unreal totem]

combat axe felt different and better

I didn't die with it

[amber vortex]

Doesn't need them

Nothing can compare to the greatness that is the chainsword

[tame lodge]

Congratulations
You're a Rashad user now

Enjoy the best shared melee weapon

[unreal totem]

didn't know there was a cult

[tough nova]

We meet Tuesdays bring your own donuts

[unreal totem]

dump stab mobility or cleave?

[toxic reef]

mob

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/noticing-eye-eye-emoji-dog-dog-eye-emoji-gif-13834071454795467253

[tame lodge]

Your axe has cleave? So you're using antax

Change to Rashad asap

[faint beacon]

Yeah but like

Special staggering mutants is funny

[tame lodge]

True

[unreal totem]

no, it gets stuck in the first mob it hits

why this is good?

[turbid ibex]

you need brutal momentum

[tame lodge]

Brutal Momentum

Deals first target damage to 4 non Ogryns targets when weakspot kills

Hits hard

Has 8 cleave push attack with good stagger

[unreal totem]

does this work in havoc?

the axe

[thorn lark]

yes

[unreal totem]

because brutal momentum gets weaked in havoc since there is a horde of armor

[tame lodge]

BM doesn't care about carapace
What it cares is if it is Ogryn or not

[agile forge]

it just needs to do enough damage to one-shot all trash with lights

with headtaker stacks potentially to cover the gap but ideally without

[turbid ibex]

you also take unarmored perk to make them more consistent

[trim badger]

But tacaxe...

[tame lodge]

You know what I think about it

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-phone-speed-legendary-stream-speed-phone-gif-4108923420328591811

[trim badger]

I don't...

[tame lodge]

Huh?

You know I say every weapon with a cap is trash

Right?

[trim badger]

No

I don't chat often

[tame lodge]

Now you know

And well
Tacaxe has a cap on the heavy sweeps

Which also shares profile with the push attack

So basically it's a capped weapon

[trim badger]

Cap on what cleave?

[slow sky]

And you smell like egg so

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGIatwLasAAMzYj.webp

[trim badger]

Capped on what aspect wraa

[tame lodge]

Ok so

[slow sky]

Cleave damage

[tame lodge]

A cleave damage distribution cap

[slow sky]

Hits 0 at the 4th target

[tame lodge]

You could hit billion enemies at once and only damage 3 targets

Because of the CDDC of 3

[trim badger]

Does that really matter with brutal momentum and its attack speed?

[tame lodge]

Yes

[slow sky]

(It doesnt cuz its cleave is naturally too low to reliably even hit in the first place)

[tame lodge]

You never reached 10.5 cleave with it and it shows

🫵

[trim badger]

Idk I use the thing and it can deal with everything pretty much

[tame lodge]

And still capped

Noticing

[trim badger]

Still deals with horde really fast wra

[tame lodge]

And still capped

[trim badger]

And them ragers too especially with the special

It's good!!!

[tame lodge]

And still capped

[trim badger]

Better than combat axe!!!

[tame lodge]

pause

[trim badger]

No pause

[tame lodge]

Now you're just setting it up to failure

[trim badger]

Full on in, it's better than combat axe :)

[tame lodge]

Listen man
It's capped therefore refer to my previous statement
But comparing to the combat Axe

Is unfair to the taxe

You're just setting it up to failure

[trim badger]

Nuh uh

[tame lodge]

Don't do that

[atomic void]

the cap means nothing when u can crit crit crit sahur everything

[tame lodge]

And still capped

Can you CRIT the 4th target?

No

Because cap

[trim badger]

Combat Axe slow movement, slow attack speed it requires like 5000 attack rate to be goode

The stupid heavy reset on sprint is there

[tame lodge]

Listen I'm not raining on taxe with combat Axe

I will rain on taxe with the cap

[atomic void]

they should limit cleave on all the little shitter weapons

[tame lodge]

There's only 3 weapons in the shit tier atm

[trim badger]

Wouldn't really change much since people rarely pick cleave anyways with DS and Knife xdd

[tame lodge]

Vet shovels
Chaxe 4
Taxe

Guess what they all have in common

[trim badger]

O_o

[tame lodge]

[trim badger]

The ragebait...

[tame lodge]

No no

[slow sky]

Finally realizes

[tame lodge]

Guess what they all have in common

[trim badger]

They all love me

[tame lodge]

But do you love yourself?

Anyways they are all capped

[trim badger]

I don't...

[tame lodge]

Now refer to my previous statement

[tame lodge]

.

[trim badger]

I already said I don't love myself

[turbid ibex]

i will refer to your next statement

[tame lodge]

So it doesn't matter if they love you

[tidal fox]

Do you love psword

Cause it loves you

[trim badger]

I think I only used Psword 4 times in my life

[tidal fox]

Wow

Kill this heretic NOW

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/asb-jojos-bizarre-adventure-counter-joseph-joestar-hamon-gif-25000630

[trim badger]

And all 4 of them were on Havoc just to learn how to use it

It's easy

[slow sky]

Psword does not love me
It says "I will make every enemy vanish instantly with no dopamine while covering your feet with molasses"
That is behavior of someone who hates me

Mk1 shovel loves me

[trim badger]

DS loves me

I finish every time I see >85% weakspot acc

Vermintide times...

[atomic void]

powersword got da dopamine
it hits like a powersword should

[trim badger]

I wish Fatshark didn't fuck up versus, meaning the death of VT2

[atomic void]

the mechanic just sucks

[trim badger]

If versus went good I'm sure they would do more updates more often

Now we'll wait for the new weapon pack this year

[tame lodge]

It's been 4 months already

So I guess skulls reveal

[trim badger]

I actually didn't consider Fatshark showing them in skulls

I would've assumed they would show nothing for vt2

[tame lodge]

Skulls is soooooo faaaaaar awaaaaaaay

[trim badger]

True

Waiting for 15~ days is torture

[unreal totem]

What is better than combat axe?

[trim badger]

Obviously my fists

[tame lodge]

Usually the answer would be the class exclusive weapons

[unreal totem]

Shovel?

[tame lodge]

But hive Scum is the best user of Rashad

[tame lodge]

No

Power Sword

[tame lodge]

Basically twice the dps of power sword btw

[unreal totem]

It would be fun if you could use normal attacks and power it up for big hits. Or it was permanently charged like shock maul and you power it up for big hits. As it is, it's boring and annoying to use. Charge it up, 3 hits, charge it up, 3 hits. Otherwise, you will be using something worse than a wet noodle

[tame lodge]

While true

Nothing we can do about it

And Fatshark knows what they are doing

So we just consoome

Be a consoomer

[late sky]

Consoom the galaxy -Tyranid

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/desheveled-cat-kitty-sandwich-hungry-gif-16774436192549684709

[restive mountain]

Wash your hands first

[jovial lava]

what blessings should i pick for a combat blade if i am only using it for mobility?

[tame lodge]

Uncanny + Riposte/Precognition

Hmmmm

What was it again

Flesh Tearer Riposte with Serrated Blade?

You'd CRIT once and walk to the next target

I don't remember

[copper vector]

how's the dueling sword mk5 compared to the mk2? i use the mk2 mostly, don't really vibe with the mk4

[restive mountain]

@tall torrent I need you to gather everyone here to petition on the forums for us to get Dukane’s commisar outfit

[copper vector]

i also like the shape of the mk5 the most lmfao but im not sure about the horde clear compared to mk2

[tame lodge]

Slightly less damage
Slightly better dodges
Better parry
Slightly better stamina usage, except for sprinting

Your 3rd light is a strikedown instead of assassin

Correction, better dodges

You get +5 instead of +4

And about 0.192m more

Compared to Mk2 you might lose some horde clearing

But let's be honest
Only the based people cares about the horde clear of duelling sword

The extra based spam frags until everything dies

And I think that's all

[tame lodge]

Because Mk2 Heavy 2 has 6.5 cleave with some actual damage distribution

[copper vector]

thanks for the info

[jovial lava]

does veteran shout with revive respawn people that have been captured?

only downed right?

like i cant get into 3 captured people with a shout and get all 3 up right?

[jovial lava]

ty btw, forgot to say

[tame lodge]

🫡

[sharp epoch]

no

[jovial lava]

ty

[rustic kite]

Plasma gun dump stat? Im so close to finishing making every kasrkin model you can in darktide

[distant plaza]

69 thermal, 71 charge
or dump thermal if you're cheap

[rustic kite]

And can it headshot?

[distant plaza]

no, it always hits the body

[rustic kite]

Sad precision lover

[hollow ibex]

Yes it can

In fact you’re supposed to aim for headshots

See pinned guide for more information

[rustic kite]

Yea figured that when I accidentally fed a bomber my barrel lol

[willow prairie]

6.5 is literally nothing

[tame lodge]

No

[rustic kite]

Had to check since you can't really do precision dmg with plasma on sm2 and thats the only 40k video game ive used a plasma gun on

[tame lodge]

It's 6.5

It's right there man

[willow prairie]

that like 3 poxwalker

💀

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-see-it-blind-right-there-incredibles-gif-11786680

[tame lodge]

Bruh

A walker is 1.5

You need 4 to make 6 mass

C'mon man

You know math

[willow prairie]

1+1=3

anyway that 2 in havoc

shit is doing zero horde clear lmao

plus ds doesn't have the best cleave damage distribution

[tame lodge]

Ain't no one cares about horde clear in havoc

Inferno psyker is there

And H2 actually has decent cleave damage distribution

It's called different attack profile

C'mon man

You know this

Why you're trying to lie

In fact

It's very close to Dclaws heavy sweep

C'mon man

You know this

Hmm that was pre buff which means I should check again

But you still know this

C'mon man

[willow prairie]

coping hard rn

still doesn't make it remotely decent for horde clear

[tame lodge]

Bro

It's factual

You know this

C'mon man

[fast mason]

my shitty class is better than yours

[tame lodge]

Wait you're the one that didn't know DS2 got the heavy stab bug fixed back then

Ok maybe

[hybrid plover]

That's if I let the inferno psyker in (I won't.)

[tame lodge]

I overestimated you

You don't know shit

And I will not interact with you

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[willow prairie]

I mean sure you couldve said that instead of wasting 6 minutes

still doesn't make mk2 any good at horde clear lmao