veteran-class

[sly orchid]

And heinrix rocksaw mogs her too

[slow spade]

to be fair, all chars are some level of "bullshit strong" by the time Act 4 rolls up

Cassia just gets there faster due to an easy to purchase bullshit item

also Cassia has gotten 3 severe nerfs by the time Rocksaws were even added 😭

[nova frost]

the shotgun and shield arche militant

that's the one build I remeber being redicilously powerful last time I did my playthru

[slow spade]

indeed, I recall he's pretty good though I will admit I abused Degraded Defenses

[nova frost]

when arbities dlc first came out

[sly orchid]

I did a thammer warrior overseer arbites in rogue trader for my full playthrough

Genuinely quite fun

[slow spade]

I tried out an Operator Sniper RT (because fuck enemy snipers)

Even with the huge nerf to Operator, still fucks hard

[late sky]

I think vermintide does something like this. Stormvermin and chaos warriors being much fightier than clanrats and norscans

[potent iris]

watching abelard suplex multiple CSM

[slow spade]

"Tactical Knowledge now gives +2% damage per stack instead flat +1 damage per stack"

I'll never forgive you Owlcat

[sly orchid]

Man thats rough

[somber axle]

I want a stealth enemy. One that starts borderline invisible and tries to ambush a player that typically focuses on someone who strays from the party. Like a Shroudfield Zealot but as an elite or special enemy type. Make sure it has some sort of audio queue and it breaks stealth before it strikes to allow counterplay

[slow spade]

Operator isn't even that good 😭

[somber axle]

And for keen eyed players you can see the invisible enemy outline

Something that may be subtle in a chaotic firefight

[slow spade]

Now with the funny eagle for even more buffs to his defenses

[somber axle]

But noticeable outside of it

[sly orchid]

Operative is basically the worst archetype in the game

[slow spade]

and then give it a longlas UwU

[slow spade]

it had a niche back when Tactical Knowledge was good. Now it's dogshit lol

[somber axle]

Also make it an absolute coward of an enemy. Like as soon as it strikes it retreats to try to set up another stealth hit

[nova frost]

that would the trapper
iirc trapper will prioritize the lone teammate first

[late sky]

Glyphid Stalker moment? That would be sick. The audio queue for them is so loud and I can’t track it properly lol, nasty bug

[nova frost]

I could be remembering it wrong

[slow spade]

I miss Kasrkin Operator build...

[somber axle]

Yeah but I want something sneaky like a heretic with a knife Shroudfield Zealot style

[sly orchid]

Ngl theres a reason why fatshark hasnt done invisible enemies

[slow spade]

Hotshot las + Tactical Knowledge giving +1 damage per stack was peak

[somber axle]

Maybe give the Heretic bells/chimes that jingle or ring as they approach

[slow spade]

invisible bomber next update UwU

[copper vector]

I installed a mod to buff Operator's numbers and it felt really good
I also cheated to let me take Master Tactician as my 2nd archetype and it felt really good

[somber axle]

Probably yeah. But I would still love to not see it

[willow prairie]

I mean they're for setting up nuke

[nova frost]

Invisible trapper lmao

[sly orchid]

Invisible gutter runner

[somber axle]

Not a trapper. Maybe more like a mini Rager or Shotgunner style enemy

GUTTER RUNNER YES

[slow spade]

I want a mod to revert the Operator change because Tactical Knowledge was actually fun to work with now it's "spend 1 AP to get +10% damage" wow

[somber axle]

That's a good reference

[sly orchid]

That gutter runner truly is

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[copper vector]

Astra Militarum commander is also fucked up bc with some talents lategame, Regimental Tactics can let Argenta shoot a 42+ round burst from a heavy bolter

[somber axle]

Invisible disabler would be broken

[nova frost]

that's even worse!

[sly orchid]

Invisible hookrat

[somber axle]

Only if it is very loud and obvious while invisible LOL

[slow spade]

In my last run, I was experimenting with stupid builds and made a build where Cassia just turns enemies off.

"no fun allowed"

[copper vector]

Also which IAG has the easiest to control initial recoil/kick?

[slow spade]

hilarious to see a Dark Eldar with like 30% dodge lol

[copper vector]

Cassia is the goat

[slow spade]

sadly not familiar with the other marks' recoil patterns :c

[copper vector]

my Cassia mostly groups enemies together and she blasts them with her eye

[hollow ibex]

Colum

Middle mark

[nova frost]

It's recommened not using any of them lmao
but iirc the one that's easier to control is mk8

[hollow ibex]

Well Vraks is insane

But yeah so is the recoil lol

But so worth it

[slow spade]

indeed, that's the best build. I was mostly just exploring to see what she could do other than "1 tap the entire enemy team"

[willow prairie]

vrak is like what

highest boss dps in the game not counting thammer?

[nova frost]

something like that

[hollow ibex]

That might go to helbore tbh

But Vraks dps is definitely up there

[willow prairie]

helbore is about 5-6k per shot on mk5 iirc

no where near vrak

[hollow ibex]

Not sure who’s faster

They’re both really fast

[somber axle]

Helbores having infinite ammo vs Vraks having an average ammo pool is what separates them tbh. Helbore can get off more shots before reloading, and is doing it free, while Vraks is busy reloading through engagements

[slow spade]

I've seen some wacky dps builds like the agri shotgun Marksmen Focus build

[somber axle]

They're both weapons that look like they were designed by people who want you to hate yourself whenever you look at your gun

[hollow ibex]

[somber axle]

Wait sorry not Vraks

Vigilant Autoguns

Vraks IAG has the higher burst DPS probably but per shot Helbore is hitting harder

[nova frost]

Helbore is not THAT abysmal lmao
You can definitly get away playing it even in havoc

[slow spade]

if the agri didn't have dogshit iron sights, I think people would like it more 😭

[somber axle]

It's one of Vet's strongest weapons. The sights are fucking awful dude LOL

[slow spade]

and to think, this is the IMPROVED iron sights

[nova frost]

Yea that...

[somber axle]

Vigilant Autogun also looks like shit

That wire stock is actual garbage

Who greenlit the weapon without a stock to have a BASH USING THE STOCK IT DOESN'T HAVE??

[slow spade]

could be worse, here's old Helbore sights :p

[somber axle]

Here's how original Helbore users fought with those sights:

I can't believe these weapons were playtested and someone looked at that and said "yeah looks perfect put it in"

[nova frost]

wasn't it talks about how they couldn't mount a scope because of GW?

[somber axle]

They wanted to do a modern game style system allowing you to swap attachments

Bayonet, lights, sights vs scopes, etc.

That idea did not survive to the game release

[slow spade]

at least we have the Weapon Customization mod (OLD pic)

[willow prairie]

there new one

[slow spade]

yeah I think it;s still the same name

[hybrid plover]

"Even"

[orchid hemlock]

Apologies I was in an appointment.

I agree but I would like to highlight that this all started with people stereotyping Chinese people as cheaters or racist. I don't think that is fair to stigmatize an entire group of people to that level, white or asian.

[hybrid plover]

It's legit one of Vet's best options for Havoc lol

[somber axle]

It's why you see the Infantry Lasguns from the initial gameplay video trailers showing sightless lasguns but in the main game we have the circle sights built in and they cannot be removed

Also yeah I think it was Games Workshop who shot the idea down? Idk

[nova frost]

not really
bolter or plasma is a better option
bolt pistol and even revolver is a better option
Helbore is good when there's a team that will actually look after you, which is... relatively harder to come by on NA server

[somber axle]

I would love to have the sightless Lasguns the bots use

But I don't think that will ever happen

[hybrid plover]

We're really just ignoring the greatest pillager of all time here, huh?

Has the funny fat man named Gus shown us nothing?

[nova frost]

I'm fairly new to the server so...

[hybrid plover]

So to clarify.

There are Helbore players that can hold their own ground, and also straight-up invalidate specialist presence.

[lucid crest]

hows darktide doing now

[hybrid plover]

I have played with one such

[lucid crest]

im bored and have nothing to play

[hybrid plover]

Who I never ever had to really go and support because they basically took out so many priority targets that there was never truly a need to do so.

The Helbore is a prime example of being as good as the player holding it.

[nova frost]

Yea those gods amongst men are really hard to come by, my point still LMAO

[hybrid plover]

And when that player is good, there is nothing like that player.

[round sinew]

Is there a viable way to use power sword against ragers? I haven't been having much luck with it because the activation takes too long and I don't have enough dodges

[hybrid plover]

That don't mean the Helbore is bad. If anything, it's the opposite. It's just that it actually requires some know how to use effectively.

But the peaks you can reach with it are like no other imho

[orchid hemlock]

You just slash them

Literally I'm not even baiting you

PS ccs ragers when you hit their heads

[nova frost]

fair point
For an average player helbore is not on "one of the best options" list

[hybrid plover]

Exe stance, and you're just basically sniping everything before it can even become an issue.

[round sinew]

Wait fr? It can break their combo?

[orchid hemlock]

Yes

There is a video here but I can't find it

From path

[round sinew]

Holy shit ps is so back

[orchid hemlock]

PS was always the best weapon for Vet 💀

[hybrid plover]

It's light stagger. It doesn't keep them at bay for long, unless you run Slaughterer.

That's why ragers are still tricky to fight even with it.

[slow spade]

also dodge left or right vs ragers

[round sinew]

Is the falchion gonna dethrone it or nah

[slow spade]

Falchion is sadly dogshit

[hybrid plover]

In 40k years

[orchid hemlock]

No

[hybrid plover]

If I may make a recommendation

[round sinew]

Yeah that's when they'll release the warhammer mk 40,000 for vet

[hybrid plover]

Run Exe stance with p sword

[orchid hemlock]

But like if you just spam lights

As long as you cleave thru them you can literally cc a whole wall of ragers

[hybrid plover]

And never look back.

[round sinew]

Huh
I mean, I like my shout, but that does sound appealing

[hybrid plover]

If I light spam a horde of ragers, one can get out of their stagger state enough that they could go for a hit and it snowballs from there

[slow spade]

it gives +10% toughness regen a sec so you basically only get chipped at worst by ragers

VoC is on a much longer cd as well

[hybrid plover]

That's why it's fucking scary to fight rager hordes with it in h40

It takes just one hit and your whole day is ruined because of stun

[hybrid plover]

That's not the main appeal here, even if that's a big one

Exe stance is on demand, near permanent stun immunity

[slow spade]

ah true that's also cracked

[hybrid plover]

Meaning ragers can't snowball on you like normally.

[round sinew]

Wait wtf

[hybrid plover]

It's huge for fighting them straight on.

[round sinew]

I noticed they nerfed the cd but... damn

[slow spade]

Exec stance is a ton of really useful buffs

[nova frost]

or you could just stagger those ragers with shout and dipatch them accordingly
and if you are in trouble, run to your team

[slow spade]

the main reason to use VoC after both of its heavy nerfs is for team play

[hybrid plover]

THATS LAME

[round sinew]

How much did they nerf shout?? Damn I loved shout vet

[distant plaza]

I’ve seen people pull off some amazing shit with PS here
Can’t say I’ve seen similar in live games that I’ve played
And I can’t get over the concrete boots and repetitive activations

[hybrid plover]

I WANNA KILL EM

[slow spade]

15 sec duration -> 10 sec (Duty and Honor)

30 sec cd -> 40 sec

[nova frost]

pretty heafty

[hybrid plover]

Exe stance

[slow spade]

yeah VoC got hit hard

[hybrid plover]

B-

<@&735928989146939404>

[round sinew]

Yeah the mobility and activations make it very annoying imo, although once you reach flow state with it you can pull of some insane shit

[slow spade]

a lost damned soul...

The Warp claims another one

[hybrid plover]

Mods, put a potato peeler to this one's ankle

[slow spade]

"guys mr beast money here" UwU

[round sinew]

Reading this made me feel physical pain, I hope you know

[nova frost]

but MONEY!

[distant plaza]

I’ve had a few very vivid dreams I was good with it
Then I wake up, log in, try to take on a pack of bruisers in the psykanium
And die

[slow spade]

the trick to Psword mobility for me is just stop doing unnecessary movements

[round sinew]

I remember hitting some insane clip moments with ps by just reaching flow state with activations

[slow spade]

like I sometimes just sit there and wait for dodge cooldown

or push and backup rather than charge and swing

[round sinew]

How do you stop moving in dt without dying instantly

[slow spade]

it's really not that hard when you know pushing and blocking are 360 degrees

[nova frost]

stop moving when it's safe, or when you are surrounded by your team

[round sinew]

Oh okay

[slow spade]

Vet is also reliant on Coherency for a lot of their buffs so you want to stay close

[nova frost]

yup

[slow spade]

Demo Team my beloved

[nova frost]

is the bug with demo team being fixed?

[slow spade]

I'm not aware of a bug for Demo Team

should be functional to my knowledge

[nova frost]

Not that it's not functioning
IIRC when the patch dropped, demo team does not require you or your team to be in coherency for the regen to work

oh speaking of bugs
Survialist is currently bugged, kills made by your team does not trigger its cooldown

[gentle lake]

inb4 falchion is better psword

[slow spade]

Ah I'm not aware on Demo Team. I usually run Born Leader though for the +Coherency range so I haven't really tested

[south spindle]

There was someone in here not long ago making that claim I'm sure 🤔

[slow spade]

People say a lot of wacky stuff even if it's objectively and demonstratably not true. (The old Recon apologists lol)

[round sinew]

Any talents in particular to pick for this build? Frag or krak?

[quiet lark]

what about smoke

[nova frost]

smoke

[round sinew]

Ah yes, smoke grenades

(are you fr actually?)

[nova frost]

yes
throw it at your feet when you see gunners

[round sinew]

Are we fr

Actually hang on I see the appeal of that

[quiet lark]

you can run any nade you want honestly but i am believing smokes are often the best choice at least with cranial and the current maps in rotation

[round sinew]

Counterfire or bigger they are?

[nova frost]

fun fact
if you are not running smoke, no one will let you in havoc team if you are playing on HongKong server

[quiet lark]

bigger they are almost always

[nova frost]

no additional nodes, there's not really a point

[gentle lake]

oh wow what

why

lmao

[nova frost]

becasue smoke is just that good

[tidal fox]

Smoke is rlly good

[nova frost]

vet's best in slot for grenade

@round sinew
some exe plasma ps build I had some fun trying out today

[round sinew]

Huh, I'll have to give that a go, thank you

[south spindle]

Aye, but it was a proper "dig your heels in" type discussion and was rather amusing

[slow sky]

When used properly, it's basically a mini psyker bubble

[round sinew]

Wait hang on exe stance no longer deactivates when switching to melee?

[slow sky]

Yes
It can be refreshed via melee too

You have stun immunity during it as well

[austere mica]

Melee exe with weapon spec

[round sinew]

Holy fuck melee exe stance real

[austere mica]

Melee exe with weapon spec

Melee exe with weapon spec

ps6 and agri combat

[slow sky]

Shovel and double barrel

[gentle lake]

my biggest issue is the zoom-in

please remove

[austere mica]

Just mod it out

[gentle lake]

How???????????????????

if you have a mod for that pls show

[austere mica]

Constant Fov

[round sinew]

Ah yes, the corn fed agri worlder build

[tawny badger]

why are there so many fucking gunners

[round sinew]

500 gunners

[slow sky]

Unironically it's one of veterans best builds

It is a goblin playstyle

[quiet lark]

and it's fun :)

[gentle lake]

thank u glaive cultist

[slow sky]

Shovel double barrel is like staff psyker if they played like a zealot and was actually fun

[hollow ibex]

It got hell of a glowup

[slow spade]

it even got a notable buff last update

+1 sec duration

[round sinew]

Holy shit this build fucks

How the fuck is exe stance a better "free toughness on demand" than shout

Reaching flow state with the power sword vs a horde of ragers is so fucking peak

[tawny badger]

a horde of whatnows

[round sinew]

you heard me

But holy fuck when you feel the rythm of the power cycler its so peak

[spark iron]

Shovel, double barrel, smokes, and ex stance?

Also I've seen people swear by weapon expert over focus fire on the double barrel, but it doesn't make much sense to me if you have good enough reload speed?

[slow sky]

i mean you could do that
shovel db needs WS, and works with any ability but it likes kraks the most, mostly just to remove any carapace or bulwark shield getting in the way of the money shots of the DB

[slow sky]

WS instantly reloads one of your two shells from 1 melee kill

meaning you have 0 downtime

not just that, but it gives 33% crit chance per stack, easily forcing crits
which is perfect, cuz you have 2 great blessings proccing on crits on the double barrel
one forcing bleed stacks and the other giving it infinite cleave

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1494986493847142482/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-10-23_8-02-50_PM.mp4?ex=69f1206b&is=69efceeb&hm=a30c0121fbcbf44e62ea695be1c0e84cdd76580a7e2e03f05f9128dbba7e2c63&

[round sinew]

Bottomless mag double barrel lmao

[quiet lark]

ws gives u crits which lets u use manstopper and flechette very well

even if u were to ignore the reload which is the main reason

20% dmg doesn't give u much

on one target at a time

[tawny badger]

and also not applying to trash

[spark iron]

I now see the error of my ways

[slow sky]

while this is just a horde the general premise works against any density, as long as theres not a crusher or bulwark in the way (so you use kraks to get those idiots outta the way)

so it mulches rager blobs, gunner lines, etc

since the bullets just keep punching through everything

[sudden flame]

Smoke better than krak

Ogryn do da eavy hittin

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/companion-meme-im-crine-luigi-sob-gif-9227778561882860811

[slow spade]

And it's less annoying now that they fixed the obscuring bug this hotfix

[sudden flame]

Brittlenes debuff da enemy eans good havoc 40

Veteran pick elite em gunner off da map

Weird boyz focus on da horde

Zealot use buff book 7s damage

Rotten armor go boom 💥

Da plan 💥

[slow sky]

that requires me to use book
and i REFUSE to learn how to read

[sudden flame]

Wot!?, youz ain't know how to read da book!?

[slow sky]

no i do this instead

[restive mountain]

Veteran got relic blade and throwing knives

Poggers

[sudden flame]

Dis good but need 2 scum with fake med pac

One ogryn to debuff da bastard

[slow sky]

no you can just do this by yourself

zealot moment

[sudden flame]

My team help peeps run havoc 40 sah, me veterans job is smoke and focus on gunners and elite gunners
Zealot use book or invincible to help da big man
Big man front liners
Weird boyz bubble and focus on da horde

Scum focus on nades and stims pack buff to clean wounds if no zealot in team

Police man/woman, is ogryn but mini

Front liner

[hybrid plover]

[sudden flame]

I recommend use nades instead of using shock mine

[hybrid plover]

Like don't get me wrong

[sudden flame]

I pick smoke over other nades thank you very much

That shi is op as fu

[hybrid plover]

Smokes are really strong but they really gatekeep over there because of that? 😭

[sudden flame]

Nahhhh, krak use when ogryn is too shit

Frag is meh

Havoc 40 is hard cuz of the small gunners and gunner in general

Smoke is da best option

[nova frost]

Well some slight exaggeration, but yea
Arbities and hive scum just straight up not accepted really lmao

[sudden flame]

Lure those mofo in for ass beating

[sudden flame]

Wrong, scum and police man are very good in 40

Scum can do alot

[nova frost]

not as good as zealot, so not accepted

they are good

[hybrid plover]

Ya idk how scum and arbites are offlimits

[nova frost]

just not good enough

[sudden flame]

Zealot, focus and support ogryn in ass beating other mofo

Use book to buff and help team pick up

[nova frost]

hive scum is way too risky, since if whoever is behind that is not good enoughj, you are basically down a person

[sudden flame]

me play scum using fake med pack and rocket do just fine

[unreal nova]

So that explains everything

[nova frost]

arbities are just not good in general
mediocre damage output, mediocre crowd control, basically mediocre everything

nerf hammer has hit an already mediocre class hard

[unreal nova]

And they are still nerfing the one thing they are good at.

Being tanky.

[nova frost]

yes, which is mind boggling

[sudden flame]

Lmaoooo

Lamopo

Lmaooo

Never in my life i laugh dis much 🤣

[nova frost]

I mean yea, you are playing it fine
but how can we know for sure besides playing a round
because of that uncertainty, scum is just generally not accepted

[unreal nova]

It facts though, Arby is just really OP on low diffs and for newbies. It's just mediocre otherwise.

[nova frost]

yup

poor arbi

[unreal nova]

Scum is a gamble. A very good one might solo H40. A bad one is like a bad vet.

[sudden flame]

Nahhh, rather you guys spend time to learn da class you complain about da class

[nova frost]

solo is quite a stretch, but yea

[unreal nova]

Oh no. Watched ppl do it. Because some people enjoy DIFFICULTY.

[stuck prairie]

i do

hi guys

[unreal nova]

No stealth, actually playing.

[sudden flame]

My steam server helps peeps do hav 40 and maelstrom game in general police man is very good at front liner the same as ogryn

Ogryn and police man are two class for front liners and ass beating mobs

[nova frost]

correct
but arbi is not competing with ogryn tho
he is competing spot with zealot

and he is not winning

[sudden flame]

Zealot support ogryn do ahh beating also support police man ahh beating mofo

[unreal nova]

Cos your support is immobile and well, you also can't 2 shot bosses.

Assuming book TH builld.

[nova frost]

that is a viable team comp
I tried it, on hk server with freinds
it's doable
but a lot harder and ask more of your team compares to just ogryn+zealot

[sudden flame]

Flexible to change team combo,

[sudden flame]

Scum stim box, psyker flame staff bubbles or electric staff if you loke, veterans is unchangeable da important, field improvements, smoke bomb, just too good

All you need to do as vet is focus on gunners and elite gunners

And smoke

Ogryn front liners, job is very simple, taunt tanking and protect veterans and pysker, scum use fake med pack to heal wounds and support ogryn to do front line, zealot job is da same, you can run invisible zealot that's depends on you lel,

[nova frost]

yup

[sudden flame]

I mainly use ogryn, vet, arbi

Fren in da steam server use zealot, pysker scum, and etc, we do builds how output da best in hav40

[stuck prairie]

i kinda play like

[nova frost]

i'm arbi, vet, psyker main
but I can play other classes, just not as good

[stuck prairie]

every class

[sudden flame]

We like help other peeps run mealtrom, havoc

We can't make vids of how to so due to our machine is shit ass

I run darktide on 3050 in big 2026

Am working on how to perfect cataclym in vermintide 2

Other was light work no reaction, dis was, oh dis got a little kick oh

[hybrid plover]

"Mediocre crowd control"

HUH????

THATS THE ONE THING THEY EXCEL AT

[restive mountain]

Light light bash

And repeat

[orchid hemlock]

CC deez

[nova frost]

not really
they can't stagger bosses (baring from using dog explosion, and even that is only 1 single hit)
the only long form cc is on a 90 seconds cool down

[unreal nova]

Eh. They are more known for being tanky that keeps getting nerfed even when they are literally the epitome of meh outside of newbies.

[nova frost]

WHICH IS 1.5X THE BASE COOLDOWN OF CHORUS

[orchid hemlock]

arbi can CC boses with nades

[hybrid plover]

That's not CC they're lacking in though

[nova frost]

while not being able to stagger bosses, provide gold toughness, make your team impervious, providing damage boost/additional damage negation

what else...

[hybrid plover]

Arbitrator actually has one of the best abilities and tree for that specific reason

[unreal nova]

Well, you can provide buffs with nuncio...

But that thing is immobile.

[restive mountain]

I mean Arby does what it does best

[unreal nova]

So... Herp.

[restive mountain]

It’s a front liner class

[hybrid plover]

No other class can just permanently say no to a crusher horde by just knocking everything over constantly.

[hollow ibex]

Impacts?

[restive mountain]

Love spamming my BTL

And my infinite grenades

And my salvo shotgun I can just chunk boss health on continuous weak spot hits

And snipe far out targets

[sudden flame]

Simple as

[restive mountain]

Not even counting just being able to shut down shooter

WHILE MY SHIELD IS RAISED

[sudden flame]

You have the shield just like ogryn, why don't use it

[hybrid plover]

I feel like you don't run into good arbitrators that much, do you?

[sudden flame]

The right side talent tree is FOCUS on cc

[stuck prairie]

so real

[restive mountain]

if you meet a decent or sweaty arbitrator

They can easily top off damage

[unreal nova]

More meh than good, if I'm being generous.

[sudden flame]

Truly not spend time on class to know da thing moment

[unreal nova]

Their dogs do more than them.

[restive mountain]

@dark flower remember that last time I played Arby with you

I topped damage

Why playing barely awake

[dark flower]

yeah

i remember

[unreal nova]

You mean, fucking solo clutch on 500 ping.

[unreal nova]

Till server fuck you and DCs you.

[orchid hemlock]

eh that's anecdotal

I topped damage too but sometimes I jiust was with shitty players

[unreal nova]

Right after you pick up the team and you join back to a loss screen.

[dark flower]

i refuse to participate in this conversation

[orchid hemlock]

I played arbi probably more than Ogryn

[restive mountain]

I should preface this by saying

As most people who’ve played this game for any meaningful time will also say

The average player is not good.

Meh maybe

[hybrid plover]

Basically average arbitrator

Is really average.

But good arbitrator? Complete gamechanger.

[unreal nova]

Same for any game. I used to play games with 0.12 dodge windows while sick and having to clutch.

[orchid hemlock]

Arbi's main weakness into bosses really is a problem in havoc when boss killing becomes very important

CCing is good, but not having CC from BTL really hurts us since it's probably the only ability on the tree

i wish Fatshark would give us CC on BTL i'm not sure why they dont

[restive mountain]

I am hesitant on this

Like being able to just go

Nu uh to a boss

On repeat

Is kinda insane

And BTL has a short cooldown as is

[unreal nova]

You mean what boss now?

Relic Zealot.

[orchid hemlock]

we already kinda can do that with dog and nades, but the bigger problem is that we don't have damage to bosses

[restive mountain]

Like a havoc 40 boss

[unreal nova]

Yeah. Relic Zealot one shots.

[hybrid plover]

Yes and no.

[restive mountain]

If we’re going by havoc logic then, I personally don’t believe any class should have the ability to one shot a boss

[hybrid plover]

It one shots captains and BoN on backshots

[restive mountain]

Havoc 40 is suppose to be a test of team coordination

And skill

[hybrid plover]

For monstrosities and twins, it falters in getting a one shot but will take a huge chunk out

[unreal nova]

It also does on book buff or Nuncio.

Or at least from my recent games.

The other bosses.

[hybrid plover]

Chaos spawn is

Possible

But not consistent

I've never been able to with pogryn though.

Because they just have a lot more health to get through.

[unreal nova]

Might be comp related though.

[restive mountain]

Couldn’t you stack stupid amounts of bonus dmg

[orchid hemlock]

dam, every class has strengths and weaknesses

I wish we had that for scum and psyker 💀

[restive mountain]

Vet mark and oggy taunt

[unreal nova]

And Nuncio.

[hybrid plover]

Then you're expecting the stars to align at that point

It's possible

But not consistent.

[restive mountain]

I haven’t used nuncio in ages

It affect damage taken?

[unreal nova]

Just increases damage enemy takes.

[restive mountain]

I would never expect that to work with randoms, def if you have a coordinated team who’s queuing with this in mind

And everyone is on comms

[restive mountain]

I mean alright then

[arctic ridge]

There any menu option that can toggle auto fire for specific guns? (e.g. lasgun, laspistol).

Would really help alleviate strain issues.

[restive mountain]

Nuncio would benefit from not being a stationary ability imo

Considering Darktide is a game where you’re constantly on the move

[unreal nova]

This has been the complain since release.

[restive mountain]

A stationary ability seems so….

Bleh

[unreal nova]

People even asked for picking it up for lower CD to having it be movable with a 1 sec CD delay for moving.

[restive mountain]

I don’t see why it can’t just naturally follow you around

But maybe there’s lore to it I’m not aware of

[unreal nova]

"Balance".

[unreal nova]

Modding or macro.

[arctic ridge]

What's macro?

[hybrid plover]

I will say

Nuncio with impact grenades

Not bad at all.

[unreal nova]

Like, setting it to repeat stuff or loops on your mouse.

[arctic ridge]

Do I need a gaming mouse for that?

[unreal nova]

You can try modding first. Look for Keep Swinging, Full auto and Unga bunga.

[arctic ridge]

Unga bunga?

[unreal nova]

Auto heavies. it's the cheatiest of the 3.

Since it releases heavies as fast as possible.

Which I can outright say, most avg player can't do 100% of the time for hours.

[arctic ridge]

Like plasma gun?

[unreal nova]

Melee.

It's made for oggies originally.

Since their left side used to be Heavy only or jack shit.

[arctic ridge]

I haven't ventured to the other classes yet, so I don't know what weapons are heavy or calls for constant mouse clicks.

[unreal nova]

Keep Swinging spams light attacks.

Unga bunga spams heavy attacks.

Full Auto kinda unfairly shoots semiautos at max possible speed... Which can rival actual full autos so doing significantly more damage.

Since semis are usually balanced with higher shot damage per shot.

[hollow ibex]

Skitarius does everything

[restive mountain]

We don’t need no toaster worshippers here

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[frank basin]

https://youtu.be/u1Cq-CzuBQs

[potent iris]

yeah I agree hence the first sentence

[stone zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-spin-hat-one-brain-cell-gif-2745719316163357325

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blahaj-gif-10020589256031225873

[stone zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/boot-kitten-sunshine-gif-25527734

[wheat stratus]

FYI survivalist CD is gone now, inf ammo for the entire team

classic Fatshark

[hybrid plover]

did they break it

I haven't played

since the hotfix

[wheat stratus]

yes

[tall torrent]

waoh

[hybrid plover]

the more things change

the more they stay the same

[wheat stratus]

doesn't work for the vet himself, but everyone else on team

[tall torrent]

extra waoh

[thorn lark]

Perfect for Helbore users then

[worthy dragon]

Why is melee Veteran ass? Compared to others, his melee build is lackluster.

[hybrid plover]

💀

chat, they don't know

[late sky]

Maybe you’ll have better luck with Psyker

[hybrid plover]

I iterate with utter seriousness. Melee vet is a top dog when played right.

[worthy dragon]

please explain how

I only know weapon specialist + dueling sword build

Rec me so i can try and see what you mean

[hybrid plover]

Well one. Despite me ragging on how much I don't really like it. Power Sword 6 is arguably the strongest generalist melee in the entire game.

It's a little clunky. But the damage is actually bonkers when you get it down right.

And only vet has that so there you go.

And aside from that, bottom right can straight up give you 70% more melee damage

[stuck prairie]

writing this down

[hybrid plover]

I will say, it is a little limited in how you get that kind of power because it's all compressed to the bottom right of the tree. And arguably, bottom right is a tad overtuned even lmao

It's just tons of extra damage for simply playing the game well.

[worthy dragon]

Hmm. I mean, his nodes don't seem to have a lot of melee boosts. So without Power Sword he's shittier at melee than other classes on melee builds?

[hybrid plover]

Nope. Vet is very much able to do good melee without power sword. It's just blatantly the best at doing that but at the cost of personal safety because you feel like a bag of bricks using it.

I tend to run shovel actually.

[nova frost]

bricked mobility is only part of that (and the least problemetic part I would say)
PS's biggest weakness is that you can be interrupted while charging, then you will only able to performed one charged swing

[hybrid plover]

"interrupted while charging"

eheheh

As if I have to worry about that.

Executioner's Stance stocks have risen through the roof.

[nova frost]

yea, but you are being inherently less helpful to the team when running executioner's stance so...

kinda cancels out

[hybrid plover]

Being able to accurately pinpoint every specialist and deal with them accordingly before they can ever get to my team isn't helpful?

For the entire game pretty much, mind you.

[nova frost]

that part can be compensated by skill
you just need to have some ideas in when and where specials will spawn

[tidal fox]

aside from dueling sword I think the rest of vet's melees struggle against carapace unless you do a lot of melee investment

psword lets you invest more into other things

[nova frost]

I second that

[tidal fox]

other melees need more commitment

that's why psword is so cracked

I wouldnt say vet can go generally good melee

do*

big tradeoffs happening for good generalized melee

[hybrid plover]

Skill can't match to having literal wallhacks. That changes the way you can handle everything on a fundamental level.

[nova frost]

I suppose
but having basic awareness on these kind of things already makes wall hack less appealing

[tidal fox]

generally vets abilities are specialized for different things

exe stance can absolutely dominate lobbies

but shout and infil are more for support/clutch

[worthy dragon]

What ability you use for the melee build i mean

[hybrid plover]

Exe stance.

[tidal fox]

but if I had to choose which generally would be nice it'd be exe stance anyday

heavily dependant on skill and reaction time tho

[worthy dragon]

Wot. Why? Isn't that for gun builds? Does it benefit melee? I don't understand

[hybrid plover]

Stun immunity and toughness regen.

[tidal fox]

and general awareness buff against broken audio

[hybrid plover]

Honestly, it ironically lets you play more like a zealot.

[tidal fox]

depends on your melee

run psword with exe stance with the right talent investments and you are extremely strong in melee

[hybrid plover]

Since you no longer run the risk of immediately snowballing if you're swiped.

[worthy dragon]

Might try this later

[tidal fox]

I recommend you try out other melees first in auric or lower difficulties

if youre new

I started off using only shovel

for like 50 hours

and when I moved to psword it was like removing a weight off my shoulders

https://tenor.com/view/lee-naruto-lee-lee-soltando-peso-lee-peso-lee-weight-gif-19904438

[nova frost]

or just try out other classes first if you are REALLY new
Vet is not a beginner freindly class lmao

[tidal fox]

this is indeed true

[hybrid plover]

Vet is the class that seems like it'd be the beginner's class.

[nova frost]

yea (apprently I couldn't read tonight)

[tidal fox]

its just the talent tree

really punishing unless you know what youre going for

also many traps for newbies

[hybrid plover]

That's why the template exists.

The Build ™

[nova frost]

That only partially helps

[tidal fox]

they just need to rework the keystone areas of the talent tree

[nova frost]

Vet demands a lot on your fundementals
knowing wher to position yourself, what to prioritize, when and where to move and move to

[tidal fox]

too many tax routes

[worthy dragon]

I'm at 300 hrs into the game. I can play Auric/Havoc no problem with the right builds for each class. Just curious how people can play Veteran with a melee so well.

[nova frost]

that's not something a template can help

[tidal fox]

just weapon specialist

bottom right keystone

and stuf faround it

turns vet into a hybrid and makes em cleave right thru

[nova frost]

the secret is to not charge head on into hordes
and only engage in melee when you are safe enough to do so (ie have shout/gold toughness)

[worthy dragon]

Did that and still suck with the dueling sword too. Can't seem to get the hang of it. Meanwhile, i play Psyker & Ogryn pure melee builds i do just fine. Tough as rocks and easily cut through hordes cuz their nodes synergies well unlike Veteran melee build (imo)

[tidal fox]

dueling sword is for rangeheavy builds usually

its horde clear sucks

[nova frost]

yup

[tidal fox]

if youre using weaponspecialist you need to use psword

[nova frost]

weapon specialist doesn't really benefit duelling sword much

[tidal fox]

yeah

still got crazy single target damage though

[nova frost]

yup

[tidal fox]

especially with all the elite and specialist buffs it gets from vets talent tree

and precision hits

juicy

[worthy dragon]

Interesting. Any recs on melees that do greatly with weapon specialist?

[tidal fox]

Powersword.

[nova frost]

Power sword mk6

[tidal fox]

I have not used anything else

idk if there's anything that good to use with WS

[worthy dragon]

Alright noted

[tidal fox]

I hear shovel but mixed hordes destroy shovel util

[nova frost]

it helps with ps's low mobility and slow swing so much

[tidal fox]

ye

also be sure to get trench fighter drill

[hybrid plover]

Rashad, combat knife, tac axe mk7, dueling sword (blegh)

[tidal fox]

mandatory for that slow ass melee

[nova frost]

good training wheel before moving on to focus target

[tidal fox]

I've never liked focus target it always felt like it doesnt do much even though the numbers say otherwise

marksman's focus and ws is tangible

[nova frost]

Fair

focus target is a lot less directly visible

[tidal fox]

I can physically see the damage difference sometimes on monstrosities

but the other two keystones feel so much more influential

[nova frost]

Can't say I relate to that, but fair

[nova frost]

@worthy dragon try this one made today (well it's more like yesterday, but...)
you can swap focus target to weapon specialist by taking exploit weakness node

[slow spade]

Better if you take Redirect Fire so it turns into a team buff + extra damage on a target

[somber axle]

it definitely does a lot more than it looks like it does

sometimes for funny Auric Maelstroms with Monstrosity modifiers I go with a funny Krak grenade build using Infiltrate + Tinkerer + Focus Target + Skirmisher and then sprint over and instagib bosses

it's extra fun running over to a Daemonhost and dumping Kraks into their face to pop their heads off LOL

[thin crystal]

Yo guys why does it feel like the AI squad mates are stronger in Maelstrom missions and is this the case?

Either that or I just upgraded my weapons

I managed to get 3 quarters into the mission whilst playing solo just to win 1 maelstrom mission but I got killed before the last sequence.

I love using veteran class with the krak grenades and auto lasgun

The voice of command basically delays my death even though it is inevitable but when I have other players in my squad I don't die at all

[viscid flax]

honest question: I left when hive scum came out and didnt touch DT in what feels like ages after binging it from the start. What did i miss over the past months and hows the meta goin?

[toxic reef]

scum tree was remade, expeditions launched, ogryn PBB got better, a few tweaks here and there to VoC and psyker shields

[viscid flax]

how is the expeditions mode? Any good?

[toxic reef]

it's undercooked a bit

[slow spade]

interesting gamemode but literally no reason to play it

[toxic reef]

think most have already stopped playing

[slow spade]

Since Hive Scum, not much change to Vet

Infantry las guns got some buffs (nothing significant) and the plasma got a slight nerf (longer draw time)

oh Exec Stance got +1 sec duration surprisingly impactful

[viscid flax]

thanks, i will check it out later, doesnt sound too bad

[slow spade]

yeah the meta hasn't really changed much for Vet

Hive Scum has changed the most

[hybrid plover]

Tbh

[slow spade]

receiving huge buffs to its melee builds

[hybrid plover]

I think it kinda did actually change a lil

Because shout is straight up not the obvious answer for Vet anymore

[slow spade]

Ah true I forgot about that

[hybrid plover]

There's now a considerable downtime associated with it.

[slow spade]

VoC received a -33% duration (Duty and Honor) and 25% increased cooldown

[hybrid plover]

Revive shout has no penalty at least lol

[somber axle]

revive shout also had all downsides removed

[hybrid plover]

Save for needing a talent point

[slow spade]

likely now the Invis ult is better than VoC for saving now

VoC is still the best team ult though

indeed, revive upgrade being actually worth using is an interesting shake up

of note, revive upgrade only affects Knocked Down allies (killed)

but Revive Speed on Curios affects BOTH Knocked down and Incapcitated allies (trapped, off a ledge, etc)

[somber axle]

someone mentioned revive shout being able to cancel a daemonhost kill but I haven't managed to get a match where someone triggers the daemonhost and then goes down while I have revive shout to see if it's true

but it's funny if it does work LOL

[slow spade]

I haven't tried it myself either but that would be an interesting interaction

sadly I stick to Exec Stance :c

[somber axle]

I usually do Exe Stance or Infiltrate too

[slow spade]

I should try some team-based Vet build again

I haven't done that in a while :c

Back to staring at the talent tree again

[somber axle]

Born Leader was funny with Exe Stance and Confirmed Kill

kinda just passively being a toughness battery for the team

(not that most teams need it anyway)

[toxic reef]

I don't like the fov increase on exec stance

[slow spade]

there are mods to remove it

[toxic reef]

ye I should get that

[slow spade]

the one I hear about is this one https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/91

[toxic reef]

nice ty

[tall torrent]

vet has more dmg in melee than zealot

[tall torrent]

big difference between knowing and seeing tbh
I've also not been able to replicate melee mixed horde trial clear times nearly as good as stance with VoC/Infil

[slow spade]

yeah Exec stance has been great especially because it's the best for handling rager patrols

the stun immunity is clutch when there's like 50 ragers coming at you

and with the new event, that's not an exaggeration 😭

[tidal warren]

i havent seen anyone use exec stance other than me in years

[slow spade]

Exec stance isn't flashy

you likely won't notice unless they're packing the "allies see wallhacks too" upgrade

or you just know the voicelines for some reason

[desert viper]

there was another mauler pack before this btw

[blazing jetty]

"I have my whole life ahead of me!"
No you don't, the infinite Scab Mauler conga line is coming

[tepid otter]

so close

[copper vector]

which shovel mark do you guys like the most

i've been using one of the folding ones and have been appreciating its crusher killing but i was wondering what the mk1 had that the others dont, i like the simplicity of it

[tepid otter]

Mk 1 cuz uhh, bonk

[gentle rapids]

I find the mk1 poke has a lot more utility than the extra damage from fold specials. Being able to juggle ragers/crushers is op

Also funny mutant red light

[quiet lark]

why are you dodging the air 😭

[copper vector]

oh does the poke have hella stagger?

[willow prairie]

yes

stagger crusher

[desert viper]

oh idk man the mauler clown car can be quite distressful

[quiet lark]

anti mauler meditation time 🧘‍♀️🧘‍♀️

[tepid otter]

i think you did well tho

[desert viper]

i still dont know how to play on mnk

this event is testing my fingers

[tepid otter]

I havent gotten like mauler hordes yet

so far its been the gunners and the ragers, and a small wave of crushers

i should bring the plasma next time incase i run into your conga of maulers lmao

[sly orchid]

if alexander didnt dodge he would be dead within 2 seconds

[desert viper]

perfect frame dodging or im literally dodging the air trust

do NOT fear the mauler clown car

the funny part is there was an identical mauler horde just before i caught this one on video

[fading canopy]

interesting build, seems neat but no mobility

[desert viper]

I'm doing marksman penance

El oh el

[fading canopy]

how’s that going

[desert viper]

slow

[fading canopy]

just like you

helbore AND power sword

[desert viper]

I'm not taking flak from u chump

[fading canopy]

ITS NOT FLAK

ITS TRUE

[desert viper]

it's ok

[fading canopy]

low mobility build innit

[desert viper]

ur good oomf

🙏

[fading canopy]

i would like to get good at the video game

[willow prairie]

play vermintide 2

[sly orchid]

you can cheese this by crouching powersword on a specific map with infinite horde spawns

[desert viper]

what map is that?

I'm at like 1.7k kills might as well

[grave stump]

I'm trying to learn how to use the helbore how should i build it? what mark as well?

[next musk]

perilous combustion foaming at the mouth rn

[sly orchid]

i forgot

@slow sky whats the marksman focus farm spot again

[turbid ibex]

Check pinned guide

[fading canopy]

Why

[willow prairie]

you get better at video game

[fading canopy]

How so.

[willow prairie]

most notably you can't use mobility to run away

and melee is tighter

[fading canopy]

So it’s just like using power sword

[willow prairie]

yes

[tame lodge]

If you can use power sword you can beat VT2 cataclysm+

https://tenor.com/view/dodgewrench-dodgeball-gif-22028517

[willow prairie]

back to basic

NOW

what the fuck is thp

🗣️

[north coyote]

didn't use the hellbore for several years, what's considered the best one ?

[tame lodge]

Up to preference

But

Mk4 is the hardest hitting ranged weapon in the game

So it's my favorite

And I biasedly recommend it over the others

[willow prairie]

mkiiia is uh meh

it hit almost same breakpoint as mk5 while being a little slower and much worse cara

[lucid crest]

is it worth redownloading the game again or nah

like is dt any better than it was 3-4 months ago

[unreal nova]

No change. Performance might be worse.

Blight in expeditions means every run is 12 to 32 fps.

[lucid crest]

yay!!

[unreal nova]

And it adds up the fps loss.

Oh and game might be harder.

3-4x more spawns in every mode.

So RIP sound engine.

It has died to the point you get stealth bosses now.

[lucid crest]

kinda wish i could refund dlcs then lmao

[unreal nova]

Got jumpscared by a silent Chaos Spawn.

[lucid crest]

i don't think i'm ever gonna get back into this game after the vet helmet change

[thorn lark]

ragebait used to be believable

[unreal nova]

They also broke so many other unrelated things in said patch, not sure if extra spaghetti code or something.

[turbid ibex]

Bagerait

[unreal nova]

Not ragebait, legit silent bosses.

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[unreal nova]

Others have had it as well.

[lucid crest]

darktide is very well optimized

to suggest otherwise is blaphemous towards the glorious regime of Tencent

[unreal nova]

Game's sound engine is so stretched, I no longer hear patrol voices and such.

[lucid crest]

my game would frequently shit itself audio wise to the point that my ears actually began bleeding im not even joking

[tall torrent]

optimization is solely on FS

[turbid ibex]

Yeah tencent has fuck all to do with this

[lucid crest]

no like

[unreal nova]

That's just losing on Rotten. When they die due to despawning.

[lucid crest]

tencent pushing for microtransactions -> them focusing on that over optimization

yes we need to remove a feature of a free helmet and turn it into a microtransaction!!!

[thorn lark]

beige rate

[unreal nova]

Commodores is third party crew btw.

[lucid crest]

ah nvm then

still can't forgive that

its so fuckin scummy lol

[tall torrent]

pretty sure that's not how it works, tencent is pretty hands off

[turbid ibex]

The visor was a bug

[lucid crest]

let me hate on fatshark

[tall torrent]

get over it, it was so obviously a bug anyway

[turbid ibex]

You could even see it clipping on the helmet

[lucid crest]

i could not lol

[tall torrent]

u got WAY more things that are more justifiable to hate than this

[lucid crest]

like what?

[pseudo fiber]

Tencent probably set up the way the shop works and handles the cosmetic outsourcing

[unreal nova]

Like how they manage to break things in a hotfix that has nothing to do with anything being fixed.

[pseudo fiber]

But we know that all earned cosmetics are in house

See concept art that FS releases

[tall torrent]

is this a serious question

[lucid crest]

yeah

[tall torrent]

where do I even start

[pseudo fiber]

looks at steam forums
Darktide has... women... in it

[lucid crest]

ewwww coooties

[unreal nova]

Sound engine, bad optimisations, AMD GPU issues.

I guess is not bad, more lack of any optimisations.

[tame lodge]

"Fake" buffs

Where they "buff" something and it's so nothing burger nothing changes

"Fake" nerfs

[lucid crest]

why "fake" in quotations

[turbid ibex]

Falchion

[tawny badger]

I never saw the darktide steam forums

How bad is it

[unreal nova]

Cos it really does nothing.

[tame lodge]

Where they "nerf" something and it's so nothing burger it changes nothing

[turbid ibex]

Its steam forums

That should tell you enough

[pseudo fiber]

Ask @hybrid prawn he's the pro at wading through that shithole

[unreal nova]

You have maybe 1% legit complains and such, everything else is a mess.

[tall torrent]

AMD GPU never worked well with the game
FSR related features got borked like 4 times the last 6 months
audio is completely broken on certain parts of some maps
audio cues generally not working well given current sound channel settings
ridiculously overpowered classes that remove fun for others
overly conservative balance changes that achieve effectively nothing
actual paid cosmetics having bugs and glitches all the time that aren't fixed months after receiving reports
server quality is shaky at best
FS's insistence to have animations be server sided even tho this is a pve game
unnaturally slow responses to critical gameplay design flaws
95% of havoc
100% of mortis
expeditions (more salvageable but needs a lot of work still)

just to list a few above

[tame lodge]

Because they still change numbers and the performances still the same

[turbid ibex]

1% is way too optmistic

[desert viper]

Falchion buff did so much u guys

[tame lodge]

Ah yes

10% which amounted to 3%

[desert viper]

it's so significant

[pseudo fiber]

Darktide is so many numbers stacked together

[desert viper]

literally saved my cat from a teee

[unreal nova]

Fine, 0.1%.

[hybrid prawn]

you rang?

[pseudo fiber]

You got any steam forums bangers from your latest look

[tall torrent]

of all of those things u gotta pick a fix to an obvious bug to complain abt is lolol

[pseudo fiber]

Wouldn't change it for anything love this game

Its our garbage

[unreal nova]

Look, before the hotfix, mortis was till 5% okay. Great for kill penances.

[pseudo fiber]

Darktide is our garbage

[tame lodge]

Anyways
Fatshark knows what they are doing so don't worry about

[tall torrent]

mortis is fully bad

[tame lodge]

You should just consoome

[lucid crest]

mehhh

nah

[tame lodge]

Be a consoomer

[hybrid prawn]

it depends, currently its pretty chill

[lucid crest]

if they reduced the size of the game maybe but i don't have space for like 100gb of absolute slop

[sly orchid]

haiii path

[tall torrent]

I got to end of act2 in witcher3 methink

[pseudo fiber]

Helldivers 2 isn't 100gb anymore dw

[unreal nova]

I guess is taste. I prefer it to expeditions.

[turbid ibex]

Btw path did u see the survivalist bug

[lucid crest]

i dont play helldivers

[tall torrent]

yea

[hybrid prawn]

@tawny badger

[sly orchid]

are you in skellige?

[lucid crest]

all i see is reddit infighting and it makes me not want to ever see anything about it ever again lol

[tame lodge]

There's this one guy in the steam discussion that he keeps using ai or something to try and convince darktide is misogynistic or something

💀

[sly orchid]

LOL

[pseudo fiber]

Come on lmfaoo

[lucid crest]

[Redacted] are lesbian catfight fetish videos

[tall torrent]

I finished skellige coronation stuff, found ciri, did battle of kaer morhen, then killed imlerith, went back to skellige, killed lugos, and just found sunstone

I 2 tapped imlerith

lololol

[sly orchid]

oh damn

your uhh

actually almost done with the game lmao

not counting blood and wine and heart of stone

[tawny badger]

I don’t think any human being who has the displeasure of existing in the 41st millennium is going to remain attractive outside of those on maybe pleasure worlds or whatevs

especially not no goddamn reject

[tall torrent]

I goofed around and did a bunch of side content early on while going for fast travel points
so I was like lv30 for the imlerith fight and was massively above his lvl, also using tier3 bear school gear with rend

[sly orchid]

https://klipy.com/gifs/happy-catto-cats--k01KQA20QHNB6STQ0776E3E8YZK

[tall torrent]

and I just rend x2 and he went straight into cutscene

[unreal nova]

They can be, roll high enough worshipping Slaanesh.

Or just be born Eldar.

[willow prairie]

witcher 3 is unbearable for me fr fr

I do not like playing it

[tall torrent]

I also did runewright to make spin and rend good

spin and rend without the extra distance feel like ass

[unreal nova]

Stares at every single female Farseer to date.

[tawny badger]

True but I’m talking about humans tbf

[unreal nova]

Thus, get lucky with Slaanesh worship.

[tall torrent]

Also I’m doing triss romance
Already rejected yennefer

[tame lodge]

Same person btw

I don't know why he keeps trolling in there but it's pretty sad

[sly orchid]

ill probs replay the game when the big dlc comes out

[tall torrent]

Also I cut djikstra in half

[sly orchid]

youch

[pseudo fiber]

They should shut down steam forums

[tall torrent]

And killed radovid V

[tame lodge]

[tame lodge]

But then we wouldn't have chigachads like this

[sly orchid]

man i wish witcher 3 had transmog

[turbid ibex]

Tf does sneed mean

[pseudo fiber]

40 dollars 3 years ago

[formal ice]

Whining

[tall torrent]

Same

[sly orchid]

genuinely gorgious armor but again leveling

[turbid ibex]

40 years 3 dollars ago

[unreal nova]

Though the points are pretty legit though.

[sly orchid]

ok so a bit of a history lesson

[tall torrent]

I’m going for a bear set heavy armor combat focus build

With levity and cat school techniques

[pseudo fiber]

I bought the game on sale

[sly orchid]

back when fallout the frontier released they put ingame why would i joing a fascist paramilitary faction yadda yadda alongside the other cringe

so people naturally wanted to join the enclave and put seethe and enclave together to make sneed and ridicule the devs

[tall torrent]

Crit maxing

[unreal nova]

Don't think it matters, if you put a price on it and it's buggy, expect complains.

[turbid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/cuh-guh-buh-gif-26372267

[tall torrent]

Are u excited for possible battleforged weapon skin rerun lol

[unreal nova]

Is one thing if it's completely free.

[tall torrent]

I might get that black power sword skin

[sly orchid]

this is how im playing geralt lmao

THIS POTION IS LACED IM TWEAKING

[tall torrent]

Alchemy and blade oil are just so strong in W3

I have only axii upgraded for dialogue

Genuinely didn’t care about signs

[sly orchid]

bro what the fuck

[pseudo fiber]

But they're mistaking entitlement and their right to do things

You paid for the game you can complain about it sure. Entitlement would be demanding the devs do something because of the aforementioned 40 dollars 3 years ago

[sly orchid]

signs are stupid strong

[tall torrent]

Are signs as strong as 2 shotting imlerith

[sly orchid]

no but shut up

[unreal nova]

Well, one would expect fixes that never seem to happen. The game plays worse than 2 years ago even.

[tall torrent]

Because I had like 100% crit chance for Ren’s and something like 300%+ crit damage bonus on top of blade oil, thunderbolt damage buff, and mutagen bonuses

[sly orchid]

are you playing death march

[tall torrent]

I was yea

Then the fist fights got boring

[sly orchid]

im tweaking

[tall torrent]

What

[sly orchid]

thats like so much damage

[turbid ibex]

Honestly quite incredible

[tall torrent]

Yea what about it

I have cat school technique and levity so my heavy armor is actually light armor and give me +100% crit damage

And my sword had like +50% crit damage

[turbid ibex]

Cat school

https://tenor.com/view/goog-goog-cat-googcat-gif-15010541579753907209

[tall torrent]

And there’s this skill that gives heavy atk +75% crit damage

And rend gets like +60%? Crit chance

And I have adrenaline converted to give crit chance

[pseudo fiber]

The time will pass either way

All we can do is ask

[tall torrent]

I killed all the witch hunters in the great escape quest in like 30s

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

This game’s combat after u have stuff unlocked to make it fun is actually pretty easy tbh

[unreal nova]

True. If the devs even listen on it. Unless the incompetency at their own engine jokes aren't actually jokes...

[tall torrent]

Also I have level upscaling turned on

So even tho I have leveled a lot enemies are still at my lvl stat wise

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-gif-5430850758035663288

[turbid ibex]

Im pretty sure ive heard female voices for some scab grunts

[stuck prairie]

theres some enemy grunts that are women too

yeah

I hear everything 👂

[turbid ibex]

Also trappers and tox flamer

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-ride-train-cave-gif-11579857

it's really that bad huh

[sly orchid]

i agree

we should instead remove all women from darktide

[turbid ibex]

Its steam forums

[hybrid prawn]

few months old post

[turbid ibex]

What did you expect

[hybrid prawn]

recent post is "sane"

[tawny badger]

no more hadaron

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-gif-13813457612366790790

[hybrid prawn]

lmao

[tawny badger]

the plague who

[hybrid prawn]

poxburster

[tame lodge]

Breaker dawg

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/think-bro-gif-22403438

[tame lodge]

It's written right there

[hybrid prawn]

plaguebreaker is the S rank version of poxburster

[tawny badger]

why didnt they just strap a darktillion poxburster bombs on a plagryn

are the heretics stupid

[tame lodge]

He breaks it down for you

Nurgle style

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-dance-dancing-break-it-down-gif-9881392746354730618

[tawny badger]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-gif-11900577215333876346

embed fail, killing myself IMMEDIATELY

[fading canopy]

Hello

[tawny badger]

sup

[fading canopy]

@tawny badger

Do you have a cousin with flak armor

[tawny badger]

We don't talk about #thosepeople

[fading canopy]

I see

What has carapace in the game even

Carapace is fake

Doesn’t exist

[turbid ibex]

Mauler, plasma gunner head, crusher

[fading canopy]

Isn’t mauler flak

[hybrid prawn]

used to have flak armor but got sponsored by wolfer with carapace suit

[fading canopy]

So i have been tricked