veteran-class

[tame lodge]

Stealth training is next module

[hollow ibex]

True. If we have ninja crushers we should have ninja ogryns too

[tawny badger]

infiltrate bully clubgryns on their way to smack the daemonhost in the back of their head

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-invincible-season-4-oliver-behind-gif-7275725273397757851

[tame lodge]

I like your cut G build

[tawny badger]

how fast do I gotta walk⁉️

[fresh crystal]

What would be a good skill tree for the power sword

Any tips from anyone would be sick

[fresh crystal]

Thank you for the advice

[pseudo fiber]

yeah it's p good

[pallid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663756150709420034/1381717006503641199/T3.mp4?ex=69de95bd&is=69dd443d&hm=587db9aa5254ba23adfa10f43f1e2f138019dae2ba56bff3093a630b0dfa5cc2&

[copper vector]

Damn I got a mod to change helbore trigger to ads to charge and left click to fire and it feels so much better

[unreal nova]

Also, tone down the fake nightvision ver as well.

[hollow ibex]

that shit's so annoying

turned it off with a mod

but yeah that's what path was referrign to with NVG effect

[frigid rover]

that dogshit nvg filter is kino dont you dare

[unreal nova]

More, I see nothing but green, like hit with a fartbomb.

Makes everything look the same.

Actually, worse that fart gas for visuals.

[copper vector]

do you need to have joined the lobby at the start (like from Ready screen) for the 90% accuracy 0 ammo and no melee damage penances?

[fading canopy]

40000 dreg ragers

i just died

[woven pilot]

anyone know what's on a meta-built recon laz gun?

[lyric path]

i see the overwatch modifer for infiltrate still has its dumb 33% increase

[glad pelican]

What build would you people use for combat shotgun? rn using combat knife execution stance

[somber axle]

Dum Dum + Infernus for the Mk VIc and Mk XII, Dum Dum + Infernus or Deathspitter on the Mk XIV
Flak/Maniac/Crit Chance

If you go Withering Fire with Deathspitter/Dum Dum on the XIV it gets funny cleave

you could also use Unyielding as one of the perks

Focus Target is the best keystone to pair with a Recon imo but you could use Weapon Specialist too if you prefer leaning harder into melee combat over ranged

Reciprocity and Shock Trooper are both a must for Recon too

there's a guide in pins for the Vet channel if you ever want to check the right perks/blessings/dump stats for Vet weapons

[fading canopy]

how do i make scoreboard mod not inflate my ego of low level

[tall torrent]

a lot of the stuff listed here are actually not that relevant

coherency efficiency
score (all)
lesser enemy kills
overkill damage
crit & weakspot hits total

[fading canopy]

but ma damage

[tall torrent]

u have damage, boss dmg, melee/ranged elite kills and diabler/special kills alrdy

that's pretty much all that matters for offense

[willow prairie]

fuel my ego

[tranquil quartz]

Do the stats above defence and team score matter to keep?

[willow prairie]

im actually at a point where i am distressed if im not top damage its so over for me

[toxic reef]

no score matters

keep what things you find useful to be able to view after a game

like this is what I run

[tall torrent]

What is that? Health damage taken?

It’s relevant but not the most indicative of performance

[fading canopy]

yeah but it makes me feel like im good at the game

but the truth is im a level 25 veteran

[tall torrent]

I suggest not getting used to that because scoreboard ultimately means very little

[tidal fox]

yeah

unless your name is permanently on the killfeed

even then

[tall torrent]

Sometimes u will just run into a psyker that mogs everything before u can do anything

Regardless of how well u play

[tidal fox]

psyker moment

[slow spade]

It is nice to occasionally get a competent teammate so I can relax a bit and not be on permanent elite duty with my head on a swivel :p

[finite skiff]

What do you all think the best ranged weapon for weapon specialist is?

[tall torrent]

revolver, DB

[toxic reef]

im partial to plasma too but that's just because I don't run FT

[tall torrent]

plasma is not bad with WS but it is better with FT imo

[toxic reef]

yeah I just don't play well with FT so I never run it

[finite skiff]

So the debate with smoke, of throwing it at the enemy or at feet of team. I do both, I throw at enemy if there is a bunched of ranged bunched up but if gunners and snipers are sperad out I throw at feet. Do people really struggle to see through smoke? It's hardly there on my screen.

[tall torrent]

throw it at where u want to be within 2s

[pseudo fiber]

I think +3 stam curios got fixed

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-11-4-patch-notes/120830

[tall torrent]

yea but idrc I got 420s and 430s anyway

I only look for 430s now

[tall torrent]

hotfix prob includes cosmetic rotation

[proven silo]

cant find any good boltgun build, cant find any up to date with executioner stance

[toxic reef]

check pins

[proven silo]

dont see anything

[plain osprey]

Anyone else here not the biggest fan of shotguns? I only ever use them on melee heavy builds/classes because of how tedious it is to reload their relatively small magazine size. Especially the non arbites shotguns. (The 3 combat shotgun and the double barrel). Also you have to hit weakspots to kill anything of significance fast.

[toxic reef]

DB with WS is fun

kill a few in melee, switch and bleed everything in front of you, switch back

[plain osprey]

Do you fire both barrels at the same time or alternating?

[toxic reef]

fire one and once you've reached enough stacks after switching it will have reloaded itself anyway

because of the WS subnode

[plain osprey]

Huh

So you could skip on the reload Speed Blessing?

[toxic reef]

so you get a DB you never have to reload that's always going to crit and spread bleed across everything

ye you never need to reload if you keep stacks up before switching

check out the slayer build in the pinned doc

the one I just linked

[plain osprey]

Ok

[toxic reef]

combat shotguns can be fun with exec stance

but you are gonna have to reload a lot

[turbid ibex]

Also infinite cleave

[feral stratus]

Exe stance shotguns is fun

Been playing it a bit lately

The double barrel you can fit it with the switch weapons keystone (swift engagement iirc) to shoot without reloading as you get kills with melee

I play that one really aggressive

[tame lodge]

Oh maybe+3 Stam got fixed

[slow spade]

I've been using them for 1-tap builds

The agri shotgun slug hits for 1700 damage on a crit

Just seeing a mauler get 1-tapped on chest is funny

[turbid ibex]

Ive been using them for 22948281-tap builds

[slow spade]

I see people say that

[turbid ibex]

:3

[slow spade]

I've never had that issue though

Makes me wonder if people just don't know the agri shotgun does like 900 damage on a crit

[tame lodge]

Jordan never did that move

[turbid ibex]

Who the fuck is jordan

Michael jordan?

[olive halo]

Yeah, like the shoes

It's from a meme of knockoff Jordans where the logo is goofy, so you got a knockoff shotgun is what it means

[willow prairie]

holy shit

3 stam is easier to get now

[pseudo cairn]

You only need 3 Stacks of WS in order go load one shot in the double barrel btw

On top the 3 stacks of WS give you a 100% crit chance. With Man-Stopper (gives infinite cleave on crit) and flechette you have some good cc.

Or with the Accatran MK IX Combat Shotgun, get 3 stacks of WS, load fire shell, crowd goes HAWT HAWT HAWT

[willow prairie]

this is false

[pseudo cairn]

You are absolutely right, you only need one stack

[turbid ibex]

"You are absolutely right"

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[pseudo cairn]

I don't get it 😅

[pseudo cairn]

Well yeah, he is. I said 3 stacks of WS needed in order to load one shell. He said "that's false". I tested it in psykhanium and he is right, my statement was wrong ^^

[sharp epoch]

well its not exactly a crit weapon

[heavy rover]

It's the kind of response you'd get from AI

[hollow ibex]

not a crit weapon
looks inside
vigil auto gun levels of finesse
🤨

[tame lodge]

Yeah bruv

[unreal nova]

You need 3 stacks to guarantee the crit.

Without other buffs and such.

[turbid ibex]

2 stacks is enough with full stacks of reciprocity

[fading canopy]

???

this penance sucks

i mean it took 2 seconds but it still sucks i dont like throwing my nade at random

[patent raft]

yall actually optimize ur veteran?

i just grab a gun and start levelling it up.

im almost done with the Las Gun section.

which one should i switch to once i finish Las Guns?

[willow prairie]

yeah in difficulty where it does matter

[patent raft]

i play on Auric wit ha completely unoptimized loadout in quickplay and i've been doing it for the past little bit trying to level up the Tactical Axe and the Recon Lasgun.

Recon Lasgun is nice, but the Infantry Lasgun just feels too reliable.

same with the Hellbore. Infantry Lasgun and Hellbore Lasgun feel very reliable.

[hollow ibex]

the bad news is that ilas is pretty mid

the good news is that if you can mae ilas work, you'll be able to make most guns work

[turbid ibex]

mae

[twin sapphire]

Autoguns

[patent raft]

i just hodgepodged and it worked ngl

[patent raft]

okie dokie. which one.

[twin sapphire]

Vigilant

[patent raft]

alrightie 😄

[somber axle]

Vigilant Autoguns are really fun particularly the Columnus but wow they need a good cosmetic skin so bad

Ugliest guns in the game and it's not even close

[tough nova]

They sound great too. Love that chugga chugga.

[jovial lava]

does survivalist stack

[turbid ibex]

no

unless you mean the starting aura but that is because it is a separate one

none of the auras can stack with themselves

[jovial lava]

aight thanks

[next musk]

identical auras like scum crit chance & psyker crit chance do though

[turbid ibex]

they are separate auras still

they just have the same effect

[next musk]

yea just clarifying

but that is an important distinction to include

[feral stratus]

Any tips on how could i improve this for a vigilant auto gun build? I feel like it's pretty reliable but idk if i could improve it

just noticed that i have born leader, oops

[turbid ibex]

Not taking any talents on the bottom right is a big damage loss

[narrow frost]

very top heavy without any of the large damage buffs bottom right

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a03e04dd-879b-4a36-8f76-3356883abe36/vet-gun?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

this is what I use

but try out a few things and experiment see what works for you

[tough nova]

Keystoneless vet! Its been too long.

The rending over FT feels weird

[narrow frost]

I dont like FT

it might do more here

but I just dont like it

[autumn adder]

this 97 year old gameslantern still serves vet builds the keystoneless way

[turbid ibex]

FT def would do more if you dont forget you have it

or outside of high havoc you could drop tinkerer for it

[slow sky]

i really hate focus target

[somber axle]

I'd drop Exhil Takedown, Volley Adept, Grenadier and Trench Fighter Drill to afford Reciprocity, Skirmisher and Exploit Weakness + the melee damage node connecting to them tbh. Demo Team instead of Born Leader. Counterfire to Ogryns node for the 9 sec duration. But I also use Krak/Smoke more often than Shredders. If you want to keep Shredders you can drop Grenade Tinkerer instead to keep Grenadier

You're using Tac Axe so I don't think Trench Fighter Drill is necessary and of you keep that node you're missing out on Exploit Weakness which synergies with Tac Axe being a strong crit weapon

[feral stratus]

tbf, in my build i was using the power falchion because i liked how it felt against hordes and caparace

But i can swap for Tacaxe

[somber axle]

Oh whoops I looked at the Ainz gamelantern link and thought you were Tac Axe

I haven't played with the Falchion enough to know whether it needs Trench Fighter like Power Sword and Rashad Combat Axe do

[turbid ibex]

falchion needs all the help it can get

[somber axle]

But if you're Falchion it means choosing between Exploit Weakness and Trench Fighter

And that's an awkward trade

One other thing I'd change is Rending Strikes into the +25 toughness node beside it

[turbid ibex]

the choice is more so between agile engagement and trench

[somber axle]

If it's not a slow swing weapon like Rashad/Power Sword then yeah you'd benefit a lot more from Agile Engagement

I played with Falchion like once and went "oh neat" and then never touched it again so I don't remember how it plays LOL

[jovial yarrow]

why no keystone?

[narrow frost]

didnt need one to reach 1 shots

[forest lagoon]

Is having bleed on hit any good for vet?

[somber axle]

Depends on the weapon

Usually no but Knife benefits from it and I've seen some say Power Sword with Sunder blessing works well with it too

[forest lagoon]

Using chainaxe

I rotate between autogun and combat shotgun atm

[void dragon]

mind someone enlight me on what guns outside of the bolter and spearhead are best for the marthyr zealot? trying to get a good gun that could help in melee with a chain axe to deal with trappers behind some swarms of enemies

[forest lagoon]

I use shotgun and it's pretty decent

the one with the spread shot special is decent

[void dragon]

you mean zarona? could give it manstopper so that is a neat idea

[slow sky]

Generally the faster a weapon is, and the more cleave it has, the better it is for the weapon
Id say power sword is the exception because while it does have a lot of cleave, its not landing enough hits before theyre dead for the bleed to matter

Shovels are overlooked as a great option for them, decent cleave with super fast swings

[void dragon]

outside of the og shovel does the other folding ones are good? at least the first seems quite respectable

[somber axle]

I've seen a few use it on shovels yeah and that's a good point about the cleave/speed. It just feels like the row is weird and Serrated Blade is like Withering Fire. Not an autopick on all Vet builds like Iron Will is but weapon dependent

[slow sky]

Theyre pretty good, I think the 7 has the better moveset but you really do lose a lot without the stab special
The latch is cool but it falls into the same pitfalls as other latch attacks, you have to do the one thing you should never do in high difficulties
Stand still

[tall torrent]

it actually matters noticeably vs mauler/rager if u have sunder (because the bleed spread doesn't care about cleave damage distribution, just cleave)

tho this is leaning more in solo/duo cases
in a team it's likelier someone kills the thing u were applying bleed to (including urself)

on a 10 mauler group, serrated blade cuts it down from ~20 energized light swings to ~15

[willow prairie]

also pretty good for bosses

[tall torrent]

it's just extra for bosses, kinda in the "win more" territory

[fair shale]

<@&735928989146939404> hey peel this guys toenails off

Thanks

[willow prairie]

get him pregnant

[tawny badger]

feed him to the chaos spawn

[pallid jetty]

make him lick the phage tree

[forest lagoon]

Are the combat shotguns even that good?

I do love my full bore slug shotgun setup

[last marten]

they are

[finite skiff]

It is done.

[hollow ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1444017590748975125/1459984272713846998/5CD8D51.MP4?ex=69dfdf4f&is=69de8dcf&hm=a97429314548b76ed5a863e6ac9f5e0dca256417cbfd78d38d83f27dec56636a&

[twin sapphire]

does deadshot work when out of stamina?

[slow sky]

the name plus the buff bar is so fucking ironic

[slow sky]

no

[twin sapphire]

darn

[icy gulch]

heya for vet, are there any clear weapons i should be avoiding?

melee and ranged

i heard DC is really not good

[slow sky]

there arent really weapons that are particularly bad

lots of people dont like devils claw because its pretty average, and people dont really use what its used for, which is extreme safety, and it particularly struggles in things people want weapons to be good at (sometimes to an unhealthy amount but still)
it is a godsend for builds that are very heavily ranged focus, especially with guns that can handle armor

like an executioners stance build with helbore absolutely loves the devils claw

bolter too

it really just comes down to what are you looking to do, and what weapons fit into that well

[narrow frost]

it cant 1 shot crushers, so F tier

[slow sky]

piss your pants ainz

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/a-gem-benjammins-chud-door-door-cam-gif-7224643390232569308

I'm literally trying Dclaw H40 solo

[tame lodge]

Yeah it's pretty bad

Ranged wise
Beware of Braced Autos

End of the list

[icy gulch]

gonna use a helbore, idk those either lol. but im using the antax combat axe (heard its good at CC) and the helbore for elites. shredder grenades for hordes

[tall torrent]

I think it's largely beat out by tac axe for the same kind of low-investment self defense role

[tawny badger]

damn I got so engrossed in the spread shotgun that I forgot about the slug one

and I've been having such a hard time with carapace lol

[narrow frost]

melee

[hollow ibex]

Vet should have a shorter tree

[slow sky]

tall discrimination

[turbid ibex]

Theres really no reason to use any combat axe besides Rashad

[jagged fable]

anyone know good perks for the plas gun????? asking cause i dont feel mine is working well but i basically made it into the charge shot into crushers weapon

[sonic kayak]

Rising Heat + Gets Hot w/ Flak and Unarmored

Also don't use charge shots, ever, and don't shoot armor

[jagged fable]

flank and unarmoured really????

i have rising and gets hoot

[sonic kayak]

It's for gunners

Not for carapace

The plasma gun is your ultimate counter fire weapon

But that's.. also all it does

[jagged fable]

my apologie si thought something that is strength 7 on tabletop would be good against armour

[sonic kayak]

That's how FS designed it

[jagged fable]

got a melee then to use with it i was using power falcion but idk how good thatd be now

[sonic kayak]

Power Sword pretty much

But that's good with everything lol

[tall torrent]

falchion is mid at best

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350

Strength 5 Ripper Gun when

[jagged fable]

genuinely i wouldnt mind this as an ogryn buff where it does a ton of pen

[void dragon]

With what weapon you think it's comparable? And what would it need to have a niche and not become "this X weapon but better/worse in every way"

[tame lodge]

No one would have problems with buffing ogryn guns

They need it

[tall torrent]

it needs to either compete with tac axe for ranged build self defense
or needs to have high enough mixed horde & single target dps to match rashad

[void dragon]

Guns like rippers I feel need the boost, maybe ammo or base damage, but many weapons are in need of small adjustments

[tame lodge]

Ammo would be nice

[slow spade]

plasma cannon ogryn when?

[tame lodge]

It would still suck because it's ogryn ranged weapon

💀

[jagged fable]

genuinely i wouldnt mind an ogryn meta after how long he has felt weak in high level play

[slow spade]

they truly always find a way UwU

[slow spade]

Fatshark: "Ogryn meta? We just gave crushers 50% more hp. I guess we better double it"

[void dragon]

some ripper mks do need more damage for sure. but even in there i feel it needs a tad more ammo
other guns would be more mandatory that the buff is damage

[void dragon]

and lets double the caparace spam rate just to be sure it never recovers

[tame lodge]

And ammo

[void dragon]

funny in some weapons even with full lugger style doesnt feel that ammo is as badly needed as making sure that the first shoot do the job

*stare at Hstubbers sometimes needing to double tap an enemy with less than 60 hp

[tame lodge]

Funny that Gunlugger sucks

#buffGunlugger

I just lied

It isn't funny at all

[undone bronze]

please fatshark more ogryn buffs

i want big man over tuned PLEASE

[tall torrent]

melee/stagger build power maul is kinda overtuned

[undone bronze]

shut up dont tell em

let mr e continue the ogryn slander so we get more buffs

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/clearly-you-dont-own-an-air-fryer-jarvis-iron-man-meme-memes-gif-22588230

[undone bronze]

honestly the main thing it seems like is that zealot needs buffs

[austere mica]

Better idea

Nerf everyone down to zealot

[undone bronze]

NOOOOO

wiat

[tame lodge]

Wow you're buffing them that much

Waow

[undone bronze]

does that deal include crusher spam nerfs?

[tame lodge]

zealot casually facetanking everything

[austere mica]

It should

[undone bronze]

[austere mica]

Which should subsequently start to fix issues with the audio engine due to lower enemy counts

[undone bronze]

and louder pox bursters?

or better yet, get rid of the stupid fucking bullshit that is only the target of poxbursters/hounds has extended push distance

[tame lodge]

Removed now everyone gets fucked equally

[void dragon]

everyone pushed, everyone explode equally

just like the megalodon wanted

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-battlefield-1-christmas-truce-ceasefire-cease-fire-gif-17305365439119263698

[tidal fox]

me and the last scab gunner after I gunned down his entire retinue using exe stance

[tame lodge]

"we push, they push"

[tidal fox]

it's really just us pushing

[fierce sinew]

When you and your heretic bros chilling and you hear from down a hallway “STAND UP AND FIGHT!” And you realise that there is nothing you can do

[trail ore]

somewhat related but this intro mightve been the best one i saw in a war game in a while

[willow prairie]

the last good battlefield lmao

[trail ore]

lmao indeed

[olive halo]

This might sound stupid, but lads am I supposed to throw smokes onto gunners, or on myself?

Cuz in most media ur supposed to drop smokes on your spot, but I see ppl yeeting them at gunners

[willow prairie]

yourself

depend on game to game but you want to smoke yourself in dt

[tall torrent]

Throw smoke at where u want to be in 1.5~2s time

[olive halo]

Aight thanks guys

[copper vector]

is the vigilant autogun decent
i and my friend have tried to make it work a bunch but i always feel like i'd rather have the helbore

[toxic reef]

decent ye

it's a bit one-dimensional

surgical+deadly accurate

[copper vector]

Do I need to pick up the rending talent from the middle tree?

[toxic reef]

don't shoot armor

[copper vector]

Ah I was searching through this channel and saw someone recommend Rending Strikes for gunners and the like

[toxic reef]

it does fine against anything but carapace

not needed

[copper vector]

Noted thanks

[stuck geyser]

seems like smoke nade + recon las gun is the new meta on high havocs

[toxic reef]

oh and mk3 is the best, flak+maniac

[high token]

helbore is the truth

[sly orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-cell-vs-goku-goku-vs-cell-super-speed-dodge-gif-23821389

Me and rinda when vet gets power fist

[grand perch]

Or do! With the right setup

https://youtu.be/IkmYM-WjYHM

@copper vector

[open ravine]

I got the ammo to spare

I'm torn at the moment I kinda feel like getting back into darktide and locking in again but also I feel like I should wait as all evidence leans towards a new class coming relatively soon that's admech themed

[pseudo fiber]

Well new update June probably, you got 2 months till then

[patent raft]

ive been permanently stuck at evel 30 ffs ;-; i really dislike the party requirement on Havoc missions but i suppose its there for a reason

[steep flower]

Wait you have havoc 30?

[patent raft]

no. regular level 30.

[toxic reef]

30 is just the regular max rank, you can view what your true level would be with mods (you never stop gaining XP and levels on the server side)

but you're not required to play havoc or anything

the ranks there are just isolated to havoc

[open ravine]

Havoc ain't worth it anyway, its for the tryhard community and often they aren't as enjoyable to interact with as your normal random

[patent raft]

problem: im capped out on skill point gain

[toxic reef]

you only get 30 points

[patent raft]

sad.

no way to get more?

[toxic reef]

no

[patent raft]

damn.

so i've got to trade out things.

makes it kinda sad that you cant capitalize on a high portion of the ksill tree.

skil;*

but hey. if we got a higher set of difficulties it would probably mean they can add more.

[toxic reef]

they aren't gonna

[patent raft]

ik ik.

justl ike how there's a chance that we get a free class, we arent getting new difficulties.

essentially we aint getting nuthin.

[toxic reef]

30 is well enough for builds so

just gotta learn what's bait, good, and mandatory

[patent raft]

i mainly just want more f2p stuff. (and i dont count the actual purchase of the game in the f2p)

[toxic reef]

besides classes, only cosmetics are paid

[patent raft]

i just mash things together. stuck to the sam ebuild for a while. usually just switch grenades and ability. although i mainly stick to Krak and Executioners.

[patent raft]

ik. i want more f2p classes and f2p cosmetics (which DONT HAVE A COMPLETELY HORRIBLE GRIND FOR.)

[stuck geyser]

the havoc skin is sick

idk if u count that as grindy

[patent raft]

i cant even fuckin do havoc ;-;

[stuck geyser]

why nmot

[patent raft]

no party. and my dad is yet to fiddle with my acc to allow more things.

i cant even join people who i've previously played with. they have to be friended for me to play with a person.

directly playing with them that is.

and sadly Havoc dont got no quickplay, let alone Solo.

[stuck geyser]

u cant request to join groups?

[patent raft]

its most likely either ignored or smth else.

[stuck geyser]

try listing ur own

before you get like havoc 30 rank, its a lot of getting rejected

worth it tho imo, anything other than havoc is boring easy

[patent raft]

idek how to, let alone if people will be able to join it due to communication restrictions.

[patent raft]

eh for my stages of the game, skill level and mish-mashed builds, auric and damnation are threats. even heresy is a threat or even friggin malice.

[stuck geyser]

open havoc terminal, press party finder, bottom left list your own

ah alright

[patent raft]

i pretty much have to rely on quickplay.

pisses me off there's no option to go solo (with a bot strike team)

[stuck geyser]

no bro i just told u

request to join or list ur own

[patent raft]

i mean for regular mode

not havoc

[stuck geyser]

ah

[patent raft]

and i feel like the Auric mode bots could at least be smarter and have better equipment. same with the Damnation bots.

cuz their just fuckin stupid ;-;

[stuck geyser]

real

[patent raft]

im not asking for them to clear levels on their own, i just want them to function better.

i once watched a bot spend the entire time i was downed trying to kill a bulwark when he could've just moved over and revived me.

i proceeded to die with a Plague Ogryn blocking half the road.

[clever badger]

Have them do SOMETHING

Give em some skill points for Christ's sake

I can get that coding multiple builds for multiple class bots would be work but... come on these dudes don't even throw grenades

[pseudo fiber]

Give them VoC

[clever badger]

Would be too broken ngl

Idk would:
if carapace = throw krak
if surrounded = VoC

Be too much?

[pseudo fiber]

No gold toughness

[patent raft]

if we had the option to actually go solo, then being able to choose our bots would be nice. and its always one path and its level is dependent on your difficulty you chose.

[desert viper]

I think it'd help having their ai work like payday 2s bots

where you can give them your weapons

I die on the inside whenever I see my chud veteran bot shoot the crusher with it's Vigilant autogun

[patent raft]

im prolly gonna get the sandbox mod if i can find it.

[patent raft]

it pains me when i watch them do .2 damage to a Bulwark from behind while they have a full easy path to pick me up from with a Plague Ogryn beating the shit out of my downed body.

[desert viper]

indeed

[patent raft]

i wanna see more acutal demon stuff.

and i dont mean daemonhosts please do not increase the spawnrate for those fuckers ;-;

if we got Chaos Spawn variants or just generally more versions of Chaos stuff, that would be nice.

[forest lagoon]

Wish granted, you now fight nurgling hordes

[willow prairie]

why cleave target dump on mkxv evis @tall torrent

xleave cap?

[turbid ibex]

Iirc its only like 1 more cleave

[tame lodge]

0.8

[turbid ibex]

Ye that

[tame lodge]

Eviscerators aren't cleave damage distribution capped anymore

You don't dump it on mk3 because it has overall less cleave

And you end up losing 2 Scab Bruisers cleave breakpoint

[patent raft]

OH FUCK

[tawny badger]

krak grenade eatin good

[turbid ibex]

Scruiser

[unreal nova]

And they cling to you, dealing constant corruption damage and slowing you down, requiring a teammate to shoot/whack them off you or just explosions. Stacks to a max of 5 nurglings ("Balance" reasons.).

[turbid ibex]

Nurgling are new specialist and they act like l4d jockeys

[unreal nova]

The more on you, the slower you get and more corruption damage taken per tick.

[patent raft]

i kinda wish we had Dreg versions of Crushers, Maulers and other stuff.

what if we got Scabs with Recon Lasguns?

[tame lodge]

With the same hitbox?

[turbid ibex]

Their hitbox will be directly below them

[grand perch]

And while they hitch a ride, friendly fire is enabled for the victim

[willow prairie]

assuming perfect strike

[turbid ibex]

Imperfect strike when?

[tame lodge]

On CRIT enemies have more mass but you deal more damage

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

[tame lodge]

Evis3 35-40 cleave
Evis15 54.5-58.5 cleave

[tough nova]

Whats crusher mass ignoring armor?

[analog mural]

What?

[grand perch]

Has anyone ever been as far as want to do more look like

[tame lodge]

12.5

Bulwarks, Reapers, Crushers

[willow prairie]

doesn't perf strike ignore hitmass

for 3 enemy

[tame lodge]

It reduces mass by 75%

Or increase cleave by 400%

Pick your favorite

It also allows you to bypass carapace stopping cleave

All that on crit of course

[willow prairie]

if only evis have a keystone that allow them to reliably 80% crit chance

[tame lodge]

Yeah

Martyrdom is the only zealot keystone

I think zealot should have more

[willow prairie]

true

[tame lodge]

But that's just me

You know

[willow prairie]

zealot should have dodge distance talent fr fr

[tame lodge]

[willow prairie]

but that might make ij irrelevant

[turbid ibex]

+100% dodge distance

[patent raft]

i was talking to my friend a few times and they mentioned having a Kasrkin class in the game. thats js somethign they wanted. i can agree on it but the requirements for them getting sent to Atoma would be weird. we also talked about the Catachan. my thought was that they would be buffed with any weapon that had the Catachan relation. like the combat knife n stuff. i did tell him though that if we really do anything from the guard, its just a reskinned Veteran with different abilities, and is almost a direct upgrade depending on the class.

[turbid ibex]

Those are literally just veteran

[dry cloak]

Everything thing falls under veteran umbrella

[patent raft]

ik.

its just veteran with a slightly different ability set/passive buffs and grenades.

and of course weapon selection.

[tame lodge]

I don't want to rain on no one's parade but like

Vet pretty much covers it all

[patent raft]

hes meant to

hes balanced

[tame lodge]

Yeah but I meant it regiment wise

Karskin? Vet

Solar? Vet

Joppal? Vet

[patent raft]

ik

[tame lodge]

Yellow Krieg ? Vet

[patent raft]

you can literally just be cadian

[turbid ibex]

Theres not really much new stuff that would be added from new regiment classes that isnt already part of vet

[turbid ibex]

What about pink krieg

[patent raft]

i know ;-;

is Veteran class chat even mainly about Veteran or do we just pull a veteran and talk about anything ;-;

[tame lodge]

Vet chat is pretty reserved but there's no real limitations to what is talked here

For legal reasons I must say that there might be actual limitations

[patent raft]

no one just pays attention?

[turbid ibex]

As long as youre not breaking any of the rules it doesnt really matter

[tame lodge]

Vet chat is just well behaved most of the times

[turbid ibex]

Ye

Specially compared to our neighbors right below us

[tame lodge]

Zealot chat is the famous one for going on tangents and shit

It's pretty peak

[turbid ibex]

Zealot chat is pretty much off-topic in disguise

[patent raft]

if we were even to get another guardsman class, where the fuck would it even be from

[turbid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

We wont get another guardsman class

Because we already have vet

[patent raft]

lol

sadly we probably would never get another Abuhman

Abhuman*

[tame lodge]

Now if we're talking beastmen

Sign me tf in

[analog mural]

We could, just probably not another tall/small abhuman

Yeah I could totally see beastmen

[turbid ibex]

Felinid

:3

[analog mural]

If we got felinid wouldn't it be like one of the first official visual representations? Like all we have rn is a few descriptions, right?

They could just make em full on furries

[turbid ibex]

The first visual depiction yeah

[tame lodge]

Wow

Cats

[turbid ibex]

Kimty

[pseudo fiber]

Which is probably why that wouldn't happen

[turbid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-touhou-touhou-project-chen-yakumo-catgirl-gif-10143081783211581010

[tame lodge]

Like in the hit movie

Cats

And musical

Cats

It was a musical too right

[turbid ibex]

If we got felinids i'd def name mine after a 2hu catgirl

[turbid ibex]

It was a musical before the movie yes

[tame lodge]

I'd barrel every felinid I see

Nothing personal though

[stable stirrup]

anyone got some must-haves for a commissar style vet? Shout is a def but aside from

[tame lodge]

Focus Target too

"We'll have to kill that guy, Ogryn"
"YES SAH"

[analog mural]

Chain sword or duelling sword with a bistol would be most appropriate me thinks

[turbid ibex]

Check pinned guide for build guides

[tawny badger]

covering fire my beloved

[stable stirrup]

will do

[stable stirrup]

that does slap ngl

[turbid ibex]

Most important thing is to have the build template and branch out from there

[stable stirrup]

ooo it even has the callout codes

this is handy

[patent raft]

i dislike the inability to gain skillpoints after level 30.

[analog mural]

Lol

[stable stirrup]

thanks man

[patent raft]

is annoyingggg :[

i cant even do half my ability penances cuz i have to fuckin optimize a build just for them

[turbid ibex]

Most talent penances are just "play the game with this equipped"

[patent raft]

i mean the ones with the purple things

[analog mural]

Yeah there isn't much optimizing you have to do if you just want penances

[turbid ibex]

Yes

Just play the game with those

[patent raft]

i cant even get any of the purple ones thats the thing

[atomic void]

maybe stop chasing penances and just enjoy the game

[turbid ibex]

And dont forget you have them equipped mostly

[turbid ibex]

Bruh

[patent raft]

ive got nothing left to do

[atomic void]

play for the love of the game

[patent raft]

so i resorted to just doing penances cuz why not.

[turbid ibex]

Are you deadass saying youre doing keystoneless vet

In the big 26

[patent raft]

yes...?

[analog mural]

Man is living in 2024

[patent raft]

i didnt even start playing till this year ;-;

[atomic void]

[patent raft]

or close to the end of last year

[atomic void]

then how are u out of things to od

did u already max out all 6 classes and got havoc 40

[turbid ibex]

Its literally a single point investment to take WS or FT on any good build

[patent raft]

i cant even fuckin play havoc ;-;

and i dont have any DLC

[atomic void]

why not

[patent raft]

and i've only lvl 30'd veteran

[turbid ibex]

Well there is something you can do

Git gud :3

[atomic void]

then u have loads of things to do

[analog mural]

Oh, so you didn't do everything then

[patent raft]

istg i want to kill you because you siad that

im genuinely sick of that phrase

i am fucking sick of it.

[turbid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-12450451651611168773

[analog mural]

Ok I'll say something different then

[atomic void]

git.........gud?

[analog mural]

Skill issue

[stable stirrup]

honestly buy arbites dlc and have some fun

[turbid ibex]

What do your builds even look like that you cant afford to get keystone

[sly orchid]

get 100k salvage

[atomic void]

fatshark trolling penance slaves with the salvage one lmao

[patent raft]

do you genuinely want to know?

[turbid ibex]

Yes

[patent raft]

if i ge the chance i'll screenshot my stuff and @ you.

[analog mural]

Yes we do, so that we can all point and laugh

[turbid ibex]

Because chances are you def made some mistakes on your tree if you cant get keystone

[patent raft]

alright. (the build i use somehow works.)

it'll be a while though js be aware

also, dont look at the mess i made of a skill selection on Psyker and Ogryn n stuff.

(dont worry i made sure to get friendly rock.)

[toxic reef]

I mean vet can kinda get away with no keystone

[patent raft]

i get away without keystone a lot

[toxic reef]

but you shouldn't be top heavy on your tree

like you can get deep in all 3 trees

[patent raft]

i just use the weapon im grinding to lvl 20 and then finish it and move on to the next

im scared of removing skill points its a problem ;-;

anyways

i'll post it at some point, and i'll @ the ones who wnat to see when i do.

(that goes for you antag and ilas)

[turbid ibex]

You can but there isnt really much of a reason to

[patent raft]

it works dw

just involves suffering

i keep up with Zealots sometimes and they run Martyrdom

[fading canopy]

hi guys

[patent raft]

hi

ok gn

[unreal nova]

But but but, it can work if you only need to magdump bosses. (Competency of rest of team required.)

[turbid ibex]

it would be a lot more effective with focus target

like sure you can make it work

but there is really no reason to with how much you miss out on

[unreal nova]

Joke is, the other vet had it.

So I could run funni memes magdump onslaught to burn bosses down.

[blazing horizon]

Guys I'm looking for a build that is decent for using both of the braced autogun or the inf autogun for my vet.

Mainly just for the auric mailstorm missions (not havoc)

[turbid ibex]

brautos arent really worth using

vraks infantry is really strong tho but i havent seen it used much on vet

[blazing horizon]

Well...my FPS doesn't help with getting headshots sadly

[calm shard]

well you're in luck because the infantry autogun is actually one of the better guns in havoc

[blazing horizon]

I mean sure if there is a build for it i'd love to try it out
cuz I just love this gun braced or the inf one

[turbid ibex]

i see vraks more often on psyker and specially scum

[blazing horizon]

Tbh I would love to try it but My fps doesn't help

with the headshots

So i just need something to spray and pray

[turbid ibex]

wdym

[copper vector]

try Lossless Scaling

it saved my framerate

[calm shard]

I play vraks vet like this personally

[blazing horizon]

Imput lag

tried it and refunded it

[blazing horizon]

yeah...not for me sadly

[calm shard]

why

[blazing horizon]

when a horde comes in fps just from 70 to 45 :c

[blazing horizon]

as I said...fps doesn't help me

[calm shard]

if you can't aim just get MMF stacks by shooting vaguely head level into a horde for like 2 seconds

[blazing horizon]

oh well...guess i will just go check youtube for any autogun builds

thanks anyway tho

[tough nova]

Godspeed

[unreal nova]

Very ammo hungry. Very busted if you get all the ammo though.

[calm shard]

They're either going to look similar to mine (maybe with less left tree investment) or they're going to be bad

so

[unreal nova]

Did you turn off raytracing in the .ini in sense?

[calm shard]

'cause the only things I do that are deviating from the standard things that are good on veteran is using MMF and investing that much into the left tree

[unreal nova]

Because it can still be on even if set to off because Fatshark.

[blazing horizon]

My GPU is gtx 1660 super so it doesn't support it anyway (any yeah even tho i still checked and just in case turned it off)

[unreal nova]

Ah. There are other things you can turn off without dumstering visuals. Also I suggest restarting the game one after booting it. For some reason, that buffs my fps stability a little.

[blazing horizon]

I restart the game after every match 😂 but i will add this one as well

boot the game >> restart >> go play a match >> restart and so on

[unreal nova]

I can see if I can find the guide on editing the .ini in a way. Unless you did that already.

[blazing horizon]

Sure thing
this might help

[unreal nova]

There's that github guide by Thyazide, but is missing the user_settings.config [volumetric_volumes_enabled = false] edit. I forgot how to mark something as code on phone so don't copy the bracket things. Just look for it in the text.

It gets rid of certain fog effects but not all, free fps anyway.

Just keep a copy of the user_settings before editing.

[tidal warren]

u take bleed and attack ?

oh i forgot to reply

oh well

[grand perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okucEE2PQeU
i ran brautogun for smoke, pox gas and night missions. made this build for them

[copper vector]

what blessings do i put on the columnus vigilant autogun

[tidal warren]

ive never seen any1 use that im ngl

[narrow frost]

I personally use deadly accurate and headhunter, the guide in pins will have more info on that topic though

[narrow frost]

Be the change you want to see

Use the vigi

It's really fun

[tidal warren]

i do

just not any of the burst ones

i went h40 vigil deadshot exec

it was funny

[narrow frost]

Same

Really the only gun that is fun to snipe with

[tidal warren]

heyy

[narrow frost]

Besides infantry las

[tidal warren]

ok nvm

helbore too

i tried burst w same loadout but it iust didnt work

[narrow frost]

I dislike helbore

[tidal warren]

too muc recoi

l

[atomic void]

the good ol revolver

[narrow frost]

The charge turns it off for me

[tidal warren]

[tidal warren]

fair

i just use it

cus damag

[narrow frost]

Same reason I dislike plasma

Charge

[tidal warren]

u dont use charge

[narrow frost]

That little delay feels bad

[tidal warren]

for plasma tjo

[atomic void]

who charges their plasma

[narrow frost]

Left click still have a delay

Sorry, should've clarified

[atomic void]

the delay adds OOMPH

[tidal warren]

oh thats wym

i like sniping on bolter

is fun

their heads go pop

[tidal warren]

true ..

[tawny badger]

forgot to bring enhanced target priority to a lights out mission

https://tenor.com/view/anais-the-amazing-world-of-gumball-gumball-and-darwin-stantwitter-tweak-gif-738788760275822883

I am bad teammate......

[frigid rover]

i could not use helbore until modding it to auto charge and shoot on click yeah

and i wish all 'this precision weapon makes you HOLD left click to charge and RELEASE left click to fire!!' game devs across space and time a very pleasant slap upside the head with a garden hose

[fading girder]

it is quite shrimple imo :3

[tidal fox]

servitorization for the individual above me

[tawny badger]

servitorization for #zealot-class

[sharp epoch]

omg hack

[pallid jetty]

1. use melee
2. use weapon with flashlight
3. use weapon customization mod

[atomic void]

the cleave reduction doesnt matter that much it still cleaves through loads of things

[pallid jetty]

3 ways

[toxic reef]

lights out is peak

[tame lodge]

Do you want the dps monster? Vraks5 infantry autogun

Infantry Autogun family

From Vraks

Mark 5

[pallid jetty]

what?...

[tame lodge]

Groaners (21st groaner included) are the only melee only unit that can be suppressed

[pallid jetty]

ah yeah, them

[willow prairie]

anyone know what cause this

GUID: c0207da9-62e6-4e6f-a7c6-69d072a9d215
Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: [string "./../mods/ovenproof_scoreboard_plugin/scripts..."]:192: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'current_ammo_clip' (a table value)

never happened before with the mod

[toxic reef]

better to ask in the modders discord

assuming you have the latest version

they had a new one the other day

[willow prairie]

yeah i just installed every thing again

[slate mortar]

I don't play vet often, but whats a solid gun to use while using weapon specialist and stance?

[hollow ibex]

DB or recover

Revolver

[slow sky]

Weapon specialst works well with any weapon you can reasonably swap to and off from, which is most of them
It has a noticeable niche with low mag capacity weapons due to always prepared, allowing very high relative reloads with just one kill, so one kill will load 1/2 double barrel shots, or 1/5 revolver shots since it rounds up (double barrel also gets to capitalize on more stuff here resulting in a very specific build only vet can do with it)
Other than that most weapons work

I think helbore is probably the worst pick for that tho cuz despite it liking exe stance, its not a fan of swapping as much as WS likes

[tame lodge]

For Ragers you want stagger
So
A weapon that suppresses and have stagger
Braced Auto 8

Problem solved

Except you're running a brauto

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/morbius-morbin-time-morbin-michael-morbius-its-morbin-time-gif-25861387

[tall torrent]

10.9 vs 11.7

[tame lodge]

Losing 0.8 cleave

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-trader-profit-factor-gif-24031914

[tidal fox]

unplayable

[forest lagoon]

Death Guard would be pretty cool

[frigid rover]

homeless preachers in rag shirts routinely oneshot daemonhosts with cudgels on atoma for fun but a big smelly nerd (tall) (armored) is clearly beyond our ken

[tawny badger]

to be fair the daemonhost is also homeless

and they have the disadvantage of lacking a shirt

meanwhile crushers have shirts

and budget

[frigid rover]

they probably have good benefits

[tawny badger]

the concept of a heretic ogryn claiming health insurance (they took a thammer to the noggin)

https://tenor.com/view/cynthia-erivo-the-concept-stantwt-the-concept-of-thinking-gif-15838544778984017772

matter of fact

can an ogryn navigate the American healthcare system

[dreamy spade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/x0XaKLLkE2k?si=V6eAEw8Fi8q9ki6-

[tawny badger]

why did bro hit this at the end

https://tenor.com/view/wile-e-coyote-gif-7248502121839251911

[mighty kestrel]

Finally, guys, after 6 months from the first time I played this game I finally got Havoc 40. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 o(TヘTo)

Now I can play the game normally

[frigid rover]

can you?

[upper jungle]

quick question: any tips for using boltgun as veteran, like what perks or abilities to use, stuff like that

[upper jungle]

I mean my only problem with it is that it likes to drain ammo even tho i have fully loaded

[brave acorn]

I’m running flak + maniac as perks on mine, and surgical + pinning fire as blessings.
There’s also a good case to be made for puncture if you want more bleed

[turbid ibex]

Instantly gets folded by the rejects

[brave acorn]

Carapace and unyielding perks are recommended over maniac but I haven’t tested that heavily

[turbid ibex]

Remember to use your melee

[upper jungle]

noted

[turbid ibex]

Flak+unyielding probably the better combination

[upper jungle]

would shattering impact be a good blessing for the boltgun?

[turbid ibex]

Carapace would mostly be for shooting maulers and plasma gunners

[brave acorn]

It’s alright. I like damage buffs but that’s just me

[turbid ibex]

But you could also just use your melee for carapace

[brave acorn]

Yeah bolt gun is NOT for spamming into hordes
…
As fun as that is🤣

[hollow ibex]

Good way to end up on zero ammo most of the game

[tall torrent]

unyielding, flak
puncture + pinning fire for mk2b, fire frenzy + pinning fire for mk3
use exe stance

[frigid rover]

counterpoint: big hammer

big hammer!

[fading yarrow]

Sharper counterpoint: krak be upon ye

[forest lagoon]

They're not immortal. They just do not feel any kind of pain, at all

if you hit one point blank with a melta to the head, you'll kill it

if you blast it in the stomach or something, it'll ignore the hit and kill you

although, in.. I think it's Plague War? A psychic null bomb gets dropped on some Death Guard

and they immediately start feeling pain again, and nearly goes completely insane from it

[tidal fox]

ok so just make a death guard marine boss with all carapace and stink shield (void)

ez

[austere mica]

They're just tough

We could body a marine in seconds

plasma and kraks vet with a power sword
Thammer shroudfield zealot

Ogryn

Psyker

Scum with a krak rocket

And arbites for like
Emotional support I guess

[mighty kestrel]

the f Ogryn gonna do? he gonna nuke him? he can only taunt him

[austere mica]

Pick up

Pull apart

There are written descriptions of ogryns dismembering marines in terminator armor with their hands

[mighty kestrel]

If the space marine have the AI like captain maybe

[austere mica]

Not to mention putting that all behind a pickaxe

[tidal fox]

space marines when they see a bunch of schizos with dueling swords

[mighty kestrel]

He at least gotta be scary like the sister twin to be a big threat to us. I'm going to be honest

[frigid rover]

ultimately all the lore is just fluff and the numbers are arbitrary

a brave guardsman once threw a rock and took out a like, tyranid king or whatever probably

hit him in the Weakspot for massive damage

[mighty kestrel]

Did you watch the JoPlaysgame video?

[frigid rover]

he was very faithful and rewarded for his heroism with double rations the next day before being executed for not polishing his boots well enough

and so on and so forth ad nauseam

[mighty kestrel]

https://youtu.be/ZJn_QWjSK1Q?si=02cBjEcTyeO8wbnW

[agile mango]

is trench fighter worth it on DS?

idk what I'd drop to take it

[mighty kestrel]

You don't take melee attack speed with the trench fighter?

it's good with duealling sword (uncanny)

you can melee a crusher to dead with light attack

[agile mango]

do you what I should drop for it then? I use Bistol as my ranged

[tidal fox]

if youre using a frag grenade I dont think youd need the attack speed on dueling sword

[agile mango]

idk if 10% faster is that much better than just doing it normally with uncanny tho

[tidal fox]

I'd reckon the only reason to use it is for horde clear

but you have frags

hmmm I think someone in veteran chat will surely have your answer

[hybrid plover]

Arbites for Hasan Piker explosion

[tall torrent]

no

[agile mango]

what makes it not worth?

[tall torrent]

Atk speed in this game is not actually atk speed, it’s related to animation chain time

The effect on duelling sword is quite minimal

[molten cedar]

You know I'm really stupid, I just now realized I'm in the wrong chat

[open ravine]

Yeah it gives a good boost to speed on a lot of weapons.

You can definitely feel the difference when you got it

[thorn lark]

@tall torrent E committed another crime.

[tall torrent]

should I care abt it

[thorn lark]

Power sword

[tall torrent]

what abt it

[thorn lark]

Recommended perk, crit chance . Recommended blessing, bm, rampage and slaughterer.

Sunder? I wunder.

[tall torrent]

I've been trying slaughterer actually

it's quite nice

[elfin glacier]

Guide here extensively testing everything lol

[tall torrent]

prob the best "balanced" way to play power sword (as in, doesn't get to bypass any mechanic to make it feel op)

I was considering changing guide a bit to include slaughterer

rampage is nowhere as good as slaughterer tho

and crit chance is meme

[open ravine]

Slaughterer is decent with hordes on power sword as you can get unpowered damage high enough level to not need to empower for one to two shoting enemies

[tall torrent]

it's a noteworthy side benefit but ultimately not that relevant

[narrow frost]

Always empower

No point to not

[tall torrent]

the real value to slaughterer on power sword is better stagger & higher mixed horde dps

[slow spade]

Welcome back 2023 power sword meta UwU

[gentle lake]

think the problem with psword and helbore pairing is

I have basically no mobility

lmfao

[west edge]

just made a nasty crit monster if a revolver

surgical and hand cannon blessings + withering fire, precision strikes, deadshot, and lock and load

3 shotting crushers to the body

[gentle lake]

is heavy las exec stance valid

[slow spade]

As compensation, when you hit an enemy you turn their hp to 0

[west edge]

if you have good aim

[gentle lake]

I know this

but I need mobility lol

maybe I need to embrace being a backliner more?

[slow spade]

sadly you can't really frontline with Helbore anymore

you probably could if you do some axe melee instead

[grand perch]

use tac axe

[tall torrent]

slaughterer actually needs cleave target no dump
so mobility is worse

[slow spade]

As if I had control of that back then

[slow spade]

That was my actual psword I used back in 2023 when the locks were a thing and you had to RNG every stat

Iirc it was 1% chance for a weapon in the 370 range then you had to pray it got good stats

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1494152771879043142/79986C7225DE70A0.mp4?ex=69e191b4&is=69e04034&hm=871f70399a946f406879971341627d5581ee853d36ac34cbb2b6b978705f30ce&
slaughterer's main upside is rager medium stagger (very noticeable)

[patent raft]

how do you do that?

is that the meat grinder?

[tall torrent]

creature spawner mod

[patent raft]

FUCK ;-;

[tall torrent]

wdym

[patent raft]

I dont got mods

im guessing you used Nexus?

because if it was Nexus Mods then i will need to get my dad to sign back in

[tall torrent]

ye

it's easy to set up tho

I don't use vortex

it's just copy pasting files

[patent raft]

A. thank fuck B. god damnit gonna have to ask my dad to sign back in

where do i copy paste the files btw?

[patent raft]

where do i copy past the files

[tall torrent]

u need mod loader and mod framework

look up a guide somewhere

[patent raft]

fud ;-;

[tall torrent]

why not just make ur own account lol

[patent raft]

he wont let me -_-

and all my helldivers mods are downloaded from his account

and all my sister's stardew valley mods are downloaded frmo his account.

[tall torrent]

kinda weird but ok

[patent raft]

i can tell you the response i get if i ask rn.

[tame lodge]

Get a stimm

Whenever you need to run

Equip stimm

Emotional support stimm

[turbid ibex]

What about nades

[patent raft]

if we got a new monstrosity, what would yall want it to be?

[grand perch]

traitor baneblade

[steel lagoon]

Psyker boss

[grand perch]

comes out a normal spawn door. ursarkar creed style

[patent raft]

oooo cool

imma look at some more one sec

[tame lodge]

The uh

What's the name

Sentinel?

[frigid rover]

boss spawns
Every non-psyker player dies instantly in a pop of gore
The psyker players get to scream first.

[tame lodge]

Yeah sentinel

[turbid ibex]

John

[tame lodge]

Big metal chicken

[patent raft]

hmmm

what if we got Plaguebearers?

[gritty fable]

heyo, fellow vets
is there a point to take this talent for weapon specialist build?

I use bolt pistol and combat axe, they swap pretty fast by itself tho

but what if I want to be speed

I've got it! I should paint everything red!

[turbid ibex]

Is good

Mandatory for helbore and bolter

[gritty fable]

I see, it goes better with heavier weps, thanks

[turbid ibex]

It's still good with the majority of weapons

Besides like revolver and some other ones

Idk much specifics

[unreal nova]

Control freak levels? Sounds like he wants to keep track of the mods downloaded.

And there's extra gore, moar gibs and bugfixes for ancient single player games.

[tame lodge]

I went too both sections

[tame granite]

the real shit is on loverslab
weakling

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/americanpsycho-funny-gif-9414590193118567860

[unreal nova]

That's the thing. If I really wanted bondage mods, still better on those places than Nexus.

[tame granite]

all gas no brakes, that's me baby

[unreal nova]

Nexus is really just for rebalance mods or fixes usually. Sad how Deathwing multiplayer breaks if I wanted non-EE gore and gibs.

Space Hulk Deathwing? For most parts, yes.

Though, some only affects you so you get 1.5-2x ms but no sprint, but everyone else still gets sprint.

[thorn lark]

Darktied

[unreal nova]

Got bored so tested with a friend to point out if a mod is okay in multiplayer or no to report on mod pages.

Just optimisations tbh. It runs worse than modded Cyberpunk lmao.

[thorn lark]

I have a 7800 x3d and a 9070 xt, it is the same shit

[unreal nova]

Below low, 7 to 90 FPS.

3060 TI.

I edited settings to remove stuff even.

[thorn lark]

old proprietary engine

[unreal nova]

So below low settings.

[tame lodge]

.lua

[unreal nova]

Like, I'm okay if it just ran on stable 60.

[thorn lark]

that I don't understand, I have a 3060 in my laptop and i can play with mid settings and dlss perf

[unreal nova]

Dunno. I don't use DLSS.

[thorn lark]

I need to lower ragdolls and other shit but it is ok

you should try

[unreal nova]

That's already on 1.

I edited it to that in settings. 0 crashes the game.

[thorn lark]

what is the reason for not using dlss?

[unreal nova]

Input lag, also smudgy graphics.

Like perma motion blur.

[thorn lark]

if you use dlss quality or balanced you won't see any of that

just don

don't use frame gen

[unreal nova]

Also, DLSS outside of performance hilariously lowers FPS.

[thorn lark]

are you cpu limited?

[unreal nova]

The lows drop even worse.

And oggy nades stutter.

[thorn lark]

have you tried this? https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1moslpc/amd_gpu_stutter_fix_clarity_improvement_may_also/

[unreal nova]

To unplayable lvls.

[thorn lark]

well yean ogryn nades are a pain

[unreal nova]

It's fixed with DLSS off.

Literally turning it on causes the stuttering.

[thorn lark]

I don't have any of the problem you have with dlss on so, I don't understand

[unreal nova]

No clue, is what it is.

[thorn lark]

what is your cpu?

[unreal nova]

Ninth gen I7.

The standard model.

[thorn lark]

yeah that's now a slowpoke

[unreal nova]

Motherboard means the best I can get is an ninth gen i9.

But not worth another $600~ trying to find one.

[thorn lark]

your temps are ok? i remember old intel cpus being quite power hungry and running hot

[unreal nova]

Not Darktide? Yeah.

Darktide hit 98 deg cel.

[thorn lark]

ohhhh

So i had the same problem on my laptop

I had to disable boost

[unreal nova]

Is why I call it the worst optimised game in my library.

[unreal nova]

Reflex? Off.

[thorn lark]

it could no go has high but it was running for longer at a stable temp

[thorn lark]

I meant turbo boost

[unreal nova]

I don't think Desktop has that.

But yeah, I minimised anything CPU wise for DT. GPU is just trying to get any FPS.

[thorn lark]

that blows

[thorn lark]

i think it's in the bios

[unreal nova]

Not much I can do with Fatshark choosing to spam too much stuff.

[unreal nova]

Oh, then that built in overclock thing is off.

Never had it on.